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9-17-26 - Cowherd Doubles Down on Nix/NFL STOCK UP - STOCK DOWN/The Least Self-Aware Person in Sports · The Appetizer Hour with Brett Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is the Appetizer Hour with Brett Cain on demand.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently I was trending yesterday and not for my beautiful
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  Speaker 2: gray hair. Apparently the Bo Nix thing, everybody freaked out
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  Speaker 2: because Colin, you love Bo Nix. And now suddenly you're
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  Speaker 2: saying you don't like Bo Nix. Folks, I never want
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  Speaker 2: to sound like the audience. I want to sound on
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  Speaker 2: this show like what the coaches are saying in their meetings,
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  Speaker 2: what the GMs are talking about in their meetings. I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to be a fan, which is I'm loyal
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  Speaker 2: to an opinion I had a year ago.
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  Speaker 3: It's all silly, all fun and games. Cowherd in saying that. Now,
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  Speaker 3: he fancies himself as a guy that is, oh, well, I,
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  Speaker 3: you know, in a different world, I could have been
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  Speaker 3: the GM of a football team. That's how he strikes me.
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  Speaker 3: And there's a lot of people in media that feel
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  Speaker 3: that way. The person you're listening to speak right now, me,
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  Speaker 3: I am an idiot and should not be trusted with anything.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm going to tell you that on the front end. Now,
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  Speaker 3: I have thoughts on things. But keep in mind, you
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  Speaker 3: know how they have those commercials for medicines and stuff
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  Speaker 3: like that? And at the end of them, it's like
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  Speaker 3: you might get diarrhea or parasites or a heart attack
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  Speaker 3: or you might die. My whole disclaimer for that with
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  Speaker 3: me is I'm stupid. So I'll tell you things that
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  Speaker 3: I think you should probably form your own opinion. And
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  Speaker 3: if you agree with me, great. But in the case of,
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  Speaker 3: of cow heart, it's, it's not the fact that you
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  Speaker 3: change your mind. Okay. And I'm going to put this
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  Speaker 3: in a Sean Payton context in a moment, but The
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  Speaker 3: reason we're using cow herd is because of this. A healthy, normal,
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  Speaker 3: and rational person would change their mind based on evidence
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  Speaker 3: given to you. I'll give you an example. When I
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  Speaker 3: first watched Ben Simmons play in the NBA, I was like, man,
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  Speaker 3: he can't really shoot, but he's a pretty good player. 6'10,
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  Speaker 3: sort of runs the point. That's unique. He looks like
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  Speaker 3: he'd be really good. And then I got a wealth
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  Speaker 3: of evidence that proved maybe that's not the case. And
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  Speaker 3: so I changed my mind. And I think it's perfectly
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  Speaker 3: healthy for anybody to do that. It doesn't make you
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  Speaker 3: a hypocrite and it doesn't make you a flip flopper
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  Speaker 3: or anything like that. You change your mind because you
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  Speaker 3: got more evidence and the evidence told you what you
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  Speaker 3: thought before was wrong. That's totally okay. The issue that
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  Speaker 3: I have is very simple. You can't change your mind
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  Speaker 3: that quickly. When somebody you feel like is a good
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  Speaker 3: salesman at your work has a day where he goes
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  Speaker 3: without any sales, you aren't like, well, this guy sucks now.
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  Speaker 3: I think you kind of go with, well, it was
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  Speaker 3: a bad day. The problem with Bo Nix and maybe
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  Speaker 3: the way that, I don't think Sean Payton's changed his
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  Speaker 3: mind on this at all, but just speaking hypothetically, the
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  Speaker 3: only problem I think they could run into is is
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  Speaker 3: if Bo Nix has an extended stretch of play that
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  Speaker 3: resembles what we saw on Monday and does it against
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  Speaker 3: really good competition. You know, right before we jumped on,
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  Speaker 3: there was a promo that played, and it was a
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  Speaker 3: conversation that we had with Joe Sackick, what was that,
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  Speaker 3: nearly three weeks ago, something like that. And in that
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  Speaker 3: conversation we had with Joe, We asked the question of like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: I think it was Mosher. Was this the easiest negotiation
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  Speaker 3: you've done in the Kel McCarr contract in the history
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  Speaker 3: of you being a GM? And he goes, well, no.
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  Speaker 3: It was the same as McKinnon's. I think the goal
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  Speaker 3: for this year for Bo Nix is to get to
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  Speaker 3: a territory where if he wants a contract extension, That
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  Speaker 3: conversation's easy. If you cross that threshold into kind of
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  Speaker 3: whatever number you say we're going to sign it, that
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  Speaker 3: means you've done your job and you've done it at
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  Speaker 3: an incredibly high level and you've done it consistently. The
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  Speaker 3: problems surrounding the Broncos offense over the last three years
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  Speaker 3: have not been solely Bo Nix problems. But they've been
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  Speaker 3: problems that Bo Nix hasn't been able to fix. And
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  Speaker 3: I'll give you another example. Monday night was perfect in
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  Speaker 3: this exact case. On Monday, you went out and had
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  Speaker 3: a run-to-pass ratio of 6-17 by the end of the
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  Speaker 3: first half. You have a back in J.K. Dobbins that
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  Speaker 3: averaged five yards per carry last season. In this game,
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  Speaker 3: it was four and a half yards per carry. It
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  Speaker 3: was a 7-7 game up until a minute 40 left
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  Speaker 3: in the first half. Why would you not run the football?
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  Speaker 3: Who knows? Whose fault is that? That is Davis-Webb's. But
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  Speaker 3: Bo Nix didn't do many favors. to make up for it.
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  Speaker 3: And that's your two pronged issue. First of all, I
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  Speaker 3: think the offensive coordinator, whether it's Sean Payton or Davis Webb,
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  Speaker 3: because they both had the same issue, at least through
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  Speaker 3: one game for Davis Webb, they are not playing to
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  Speaker 3: the strengths of their quarterback at times, which is give
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  Speaker 3: the guy a run game. And look, that's not solely, um,
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  Speaker 3: unique to Bo Nix. Every quarterback in the league needs
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  Speaker 3: a good run game. Every single one. But when you
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  Speaker 3: aren't doing the proper things as a play caller, your
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  Speaker 3: quarterback's got to step up and make a couple of plays.
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  Speaker 3: And that's where Bo Nix failed. Now here was Bo
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  Speaker 3: Nix post-game talking about Davis Webb. Do you feel in
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  Speaker 3: a way, you know, Davis Webb, first game, calm play,
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  Speaker 3: maybe let him down a little bit with the way the.
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  Speaker 4: Offense executed it?
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: I think the players did not make it easy on
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  Speaker 4: him today. Pretty pitiful, actually, but he was, you know,
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  Speaker 4: to me in the headset, he treated it like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: he was a pro with it. He was like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: next play, here we go, you got this. He shot
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  Speaker 4: it with conviction. I thought, he really, I mean, we
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  Speaker 4: called exactly what we prepared for and what we wanted
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  Speaker 4: to get to and we just didn't execute and then
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  Speaker 4: we were behind and just literally, I don't think we
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  Speaker 4: did a whole lot of good consistently enough to win
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  Speaker 4: the game at all.
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  Speaker 3: That's the thing. When you have an offense that is
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  Speaker 3: still start and stop and This is the true test
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  Speaker 3: heading into this Jags game this weekend. It's a team
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  Speaker 3: that beat you up last year, number one. Number two,
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  Speaker 3: if you don't put up points against that team, you're
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  Speaker 3: going to lose. This is not going to be a
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  Speaker 3: game where you can look last year at a few
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  Speaker 3: different weeks where you win against Tennessee 20-12 or you
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  Speaker 3: win against the Jets 13-11 or Houston 18-15 or Vegas 10-7.
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  Speaker 3: It's not going to be one of those games. You're
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  Speaker 3: going to have to score. Because that's what Jacksonville does.
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  Speaker 3: They score. Put up 34 points in the first game
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  Speaker 3: of the season. 24 in their one playoff game last year.
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  Speaker 3: 26 the game before that.
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  Speaker 1: Then 27.
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  Speaker 2: 26.
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  Speaker 1: 31.
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  Speaker 3: They throw up numbers. because their offense is very dynamic
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  Speaker 3: and very good, you're going to have to score. And
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  Speaker 3: I think the defense will bounce back from last week
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  Speaker 3: and just tackle people. It's going to happen. But they
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  Speaker 3: need to get some support. Think about this for a second.
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  Speaker 3: When the defense is struggling in whatever category we want
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  Speaker 3: to make it about, pass defense, tackling, run defense, whatever
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  Speaker 3: it is, The last thing you want to do is
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  Speaker 3: continue to throw them back out on the field. And
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  Speaker 3: when you look at an offense that if you went
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  Speaker 3: back to last year, here's the things we want fixed.
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  Speaker 3: We want the offense more in rhythm. We want to
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  Speaker 3: commit to the run game more. We want to convert
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  Speaker 3: on third down more. All of those different details were
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  Speaker 3: a complete failure in the first week. But the worst
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  Speaker 3: and most egregious example of it was in the first
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  Speaker 3: six drives of the game, you had four three and outs.
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  Speaker 3: That can't happen. That's where in the offseason, when I
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  Speaker 3: keep bringing up the idea of you cannot put that
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  Speaker 3: much pressure on your defense every single week. And to
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  Speaker 3: be fair, even with how miserable the tackling was in
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  Speaker 3: that game defensively, The Broncos defense got you in a
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  Speaker 3: position to work your way back into the game. Intercept
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  Speaker 3: the pass and return it to the four-yard line. And
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  Speaker 3: you couldn't get in the end zone. Like, these are
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  Speaker 3: all egregious failures of the offense. And there's plenty of
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  Speaker 3: blame to go around everywhere. But if the offense in
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  Speaker 3: this upcoming week against the Jags doesn't get it together,
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  Speaker 3: you're going to fall in an 0-2 hole. And that,
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  Speaker 3: historically in the NFL, is sort of a death number.
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  Speaker 3: You fall to 0-2, it's something like only 11% of
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  Speaker 3: teams who are 0-2 end up making the postseason. And then, oh,
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  Speaker 3: by the way, after that, you have the Rams and yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they won't be with, uh, Miles Garrett, but maybe Aaron
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  Speaker 3: Donald makes his return. Then you have to have the offense,
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  Speaker 3: get their stuff together. So again, three Oh three, five
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  Speaker 3: Oh four Oh nine, two five shot Mazda text line,
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  Speaker 3: one price, one person, one hour. Um, It is an
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  Speaker 3: incredibly tough game that you have coming up, but this
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  Speaker 3: is where you prove, are you a team that is
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  Speaker 3: destined to make the playoffs and be right back in
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  Speaker 3: the position that you were last year or not? Your
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  Speaker 3: backs aren't against the wall. Like, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 3: say the words that people usually say in situations like
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  Speaker 3: this because... I think it would be silly to throw
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  Speaker 3: something like that out there in the second week of
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  Speaker 3: the season when it rhymes with bust pin.
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  Speaker 5: I think, wasn't it the legendary Nuggets coach, Doug Moe,
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  Speaker 5: who used to say, a game isn't a must win
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  Speaker 5: until it's a must win? I think that was one
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  Speaker 5: of his go-tos. I'll put it to you this way, Brett.
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  Speaker 5: I know what you're saying, and I'm sorry that I
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  Speaker 5: kind of ruined your bit there and said the actual words,
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  Speaker 5: but I think for me, If, knock on wood, I
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  Speaker 5: don't want this to happen, but if the Broncos do
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  Speaker 5: lose and fall to 0-2, I might be able to
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  Speaker 5: sleep at night depending on how it happens. If they
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  Speaker 5: fall to 0-2, but they were going toe-to-toe with Jacksonville,
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  Speaker 5: and then maybe the Jags win by a point on
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  Speaker 5: a walk-off field goal, it's going to hurt, but I'll
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  Speaker 5: be able to.
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  Speaker 3: Sleep at night.
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  Speaker 5: If the Broncos... do what they did against the Chiefs
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  Speaker 5: at home to the Jacksonville Jaguars, sell the team, blow
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  Speaker 5: up the new stadium plans, move the new stadium to Greeley.
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  Speaker 3: Like, I'm done. Well, here's the weird thing, is that
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  Speaker 3: I'm still kind of unsure overall on who the Jags are.
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  Speaker 3: They're a good football team for sure. Explosive offense. There's
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  Speaker 3: a part of me that thinks you should... be able
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  Speaker 3: to move the ball against that defense. And the defense
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  Speaker 3: is still solid, but when you look at some of
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  Speaker 3: the better offenses that they played last season, you're able
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  Speaker 3: to put up points in the 20s on them. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you put up 20 on them last year. You're going
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  Speaker 3: to have to score, though. Like, the game plan offensively
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  Speaker 3: Now, in the meantime, let's do this. Ah, yes. Doing
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  Speaker 3: everything a day later now because the Broncos playing on
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  Speaker 3: Monday night, but it is NFL stock up, stock up,
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  Speaker 3: stock up, stock down. And we always start with the
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  Speaker 3: quarterbacks and Ellie stock up. From the first week of
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  Speaker 3: the NFL season. I think I came away most impressed
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  Speaker 3: with Saints quarterback Tyler Shuck. He was miserable in the
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  Speaker 3: first half. I mean awful. And then threw for over
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  Speaker 3: 300 yards in the second half and battled back from
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  Speaker 3: a 21-0 deficit to take the game to overtime, score
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  Speaker 3: a touchdown in overtime, and just miss a two-point conversion
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  Speaker 3: to get a win the opening week against Detroit. He
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  Speaker 3: finished that game 35 of 56 with 410 yards and
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  Speaker 3: three touchdowns. But if you see some of the throws
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  Speaker 3: that he made in that second half, they were dimes.
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  Speaker 3: And I went into the season talking about the Saints,
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  Speaker 3: trying to explain to people when he got named the
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  Speaker 3: starter towards the end of last year, the Saints were
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  Speaker 3: a good football team. They won games. He wasn't always
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  Speaker 3: amazing in those, but led a team that wasn't winning
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  Speaker 3: to wins. And I think that Tyler Shuck has an
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  Speaker 3: immense ceiling and a chance to be the best quarterback
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  Speaker 3: in that division here soon. It's going to be him
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  Speaker 3: and Baker Mayfield sort of struggling for that mantle. I
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  Speaker 3: like Bryce Young. I think he's getting better. I don't
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  Speaker 3: think he can get to the level, like, I don't
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  Speaker 3: think he can, even though he played well in his
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  Speaker 3: opening week, too. Tyler Shuck, just some of the throws
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  Speaker 3: he made were just different. And the NFC South is
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  Speaker 3: not going to be confused with a division that has
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  Speaker 3: a whole bunch of talented quarterbacks in it. Hell, even
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  Speaker 3: the Bucs, who have the best one of the bunch,
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  Speaker 3: waffled on a decision or struggled on a decision to
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  Speaker 3: extend Baker Mayfield long-term. But I'm going to give Tyler
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  Speaker 3: Shuck the quarterback stock up. Let's go quarterback stock down. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's Justin Herbert.
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  Speaker 6: Um.
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  Speaker 3: You go into a season with all this expectation. You
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  Speaker 3: get Mike McDaniel as your offensive coordinator. You have all
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  Speaker 3: of this momentum. Everybody is picking you as the darling
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  Speaker 3: of the offseason to just show up and start storming
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  Speaker 3: over people. And in that game, Justin Herbert goes 17-27
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  Speaker 3: for 209 yards, one touchdown, one pick, three sacks, only
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  Speaker 3: scored 14 points. And you can look at a number
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  Speaker 3: of different reasons for why that is. He was under
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  Speaker 3: pressure a lot. He didn't have a lot of help
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  Speaker 3: in the run game. Omari and Hampton, another one of
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  Speaker 3: those guys that if you were looking for someone to
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  Speaker 3: explode in the offseason, maybe turn into somebody that... Outplays expectation.
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  Speaker 3: He was a sexy pick for a lot of people.
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  Speaker 3: He doesn't have a good day on the ground for
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  Speaker 3: the Chargers. Everything just looked kind of out of whack.
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  Speaker 3: And in typical Chargers fashion, a lot of guys were hurt.
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  Speaker 3: Coming out of the game. Just can't stay healthy. But
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  Speaker 3: when you go into a season with this much expectation
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  Speaker 3: like the Chargers had and... You get Justin Herbert out
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  Speaker 3: of the gates playing that way, and you get stomped
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  Speaker 3: at home by the Cardinals. Not a great look. So
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  Speaker 3: Justin Herbert, stock down. Let's go non-quarterback, stock up. I
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  Speaker 3: think you guys know who this choice is. You watched
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  Speaker 3: it up close. It's gotta be Kenneth Walker. We can
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  Speaker 3: talk about all we want to if Broncos not being
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  Speaker 3: able to tackle. Kenneth Walker is at least in part
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  Speaker 3: responsible for that. 23 carries for 173 yards and a touchdown.
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  Speaker 3: A Chiefs-offensed in a Chiefs running game last year that
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  Speaker 3: felt very impotent, now all of a sudden gets a
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  Speaker 3: gigantic sort of boost in the arm. Kenneth Walker is
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  Speaker 3: somebody that I still will maintain this. I think he's
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  Speaker 3: a really good running back. I don't think he's top,
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  Speaker 3: top tier. Like, I don't think that he's in the B.
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  Speaker 3: John Robinson range. Derrick Henry, Jameer Gibbs, Saquon Barkley, Jonathan
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  Speaker 3: Taylor territory, but he's in the tier below that. He's
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  Speaker 3: very good. And if you give him an opening, he's
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  Speaker 3: going to take it. He's got a lot of patience
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  Speaker 3: as a running back, but he's just something that Kansas
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  Speaker 3: City hasn't had there in a while. I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: think they put up the graphic during the game. Has
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  Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes ever had a thousand yard rusher? I don't
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  Speaker 3: think they have. But he is well on his way
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  Speaker 3: to doing that. He took care of about a fifth
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  Speaker 3: of that in week one of the season. And if
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  Speaker 3: they get an actual running game to complement Patrick Mahomes
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  Speaker 3: coming back from the knee injury, then the Chiefs offense
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  Speaker 3: now becomes two-dimensional in a way that it hasn't been
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  Speaker 3: for a few years. So Kenneth Walker gets a stock up.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go non-quarterback stock down. So again, we're basing all
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  Speaker 3: these things off of a week, but I will tell
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  Speaker 3: you this. George Pickens was very upset this offseason that
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  Speaker 3: he wasn't getting a long-term extension. He begrudgingly signed a
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  Speaker 3: contract or a franchise tag. One year, I'll prove it
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  Speaker 3: one more time, then you give me big money. Well,
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  Speaker 3: the first week wasn't great. He had three catches for
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  Speaker 3: 28 yards. He had six targets total. Gave up on routes.
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  Speaker 3: Cowboys offense, explosive almost always. It wasn't in that opening
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  Speaker 3: game against the Giants. George Pickens is a guy that's
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: looking to make some money. And the only way you're
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: going to make some money is if you put up numbers.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: And if he doesn't, then this could become a bigger issue.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: George Pickens has been a bit of a problem child before.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: If he continues not to get the football and not
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: get his numbers, which in turn will mean not to
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: get the requisite stuff to throw in front of a
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: GM to say, pay me X amount of dollars, I
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: think he could become a malcontent within the locker room.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: So I think the Cowboys, it's only one week, but
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: sooner rather than later, need to get that taken care
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: of before they find their own sort of A.J. Brown
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: situation they're dealing with. NFL team stock up. So a
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: few different places you can go. I thought the Giants
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: looked good. The Chiefs, obviously, with the dominant win to
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: open up the year, I think it was good for them.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: I'm going to point over towards the Vikings. I was
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: incredibly impressed, especially with how they closed the game. They
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: go into this season, really talented roster, but the biggest
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: question mark you have on the roster is at the
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: position that matters most, which is quarterback. They say, you
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: know what, J.J. McCarthy, we're going to make you inactive
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: for this game. We're going to go with Kyler Murray
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: as the starter and Carson Wentz as the backup. Kyler
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Murray goes out and a few plays into the game,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: gets sandwiched by two dudes, hit to the helmet, and
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: clear concussion. Leaves the game. Carson Wentz has to take over.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: And sort of a sputtery start. beneficiary of a couple
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: of calls in that game, had an interception from Wentz
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: that was called back due to penalty. So all of
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: these different things sort of led to the Vikings being
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: in a decent position, but they were down in this
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: game 22 to 17 heading into the fourth quarter in
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: which they outscored the Packers 22 to nothing. That's impressive.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Considering the Vikings were on a backup quarterback and faced
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: a deficit and all the momentum against them, not only
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: found a way to win late, but found a way
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: to dominate late. And they win 39-22. I just think
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: it's really impressive. Is it sustainable? I doubt it. They
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: have the Bears this week. I'm very intrigued to see
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: how Brian Flores' defense is. Handles the 59 points that
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: were put up by the Bears in week one. I
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: think it's a fascinating football game that Chicago probably wins.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: But I give the Vikings a puncher's chance. And the
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: fact that I'm doing that shows how impressive they were
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: in the first week. So they get to stock up.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: NFL teams stock down. I could go the easy route here.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: I could say the Broncos were incredibly and utterly disappointing.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: I could say it's the Chargers. I could say it's
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: the Rams. And I'm just going to put this in
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: a category of teams with offseason expectation. You could really
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: take your pick. And as far as the worst of them,
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: the thing is the Chargers lost to the worst opponent.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: The Cardinals are worse than what the Chiefs are and
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: what the 49ers are. But I think the way the
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Broncos lost, which was could get nothing going on offense,
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: had multiple turnovers. gave up sacks, and then on the
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: defensive side, you put up a pretty historically bad performance
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: from a tackling perspective. I think it's got to be
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: the Broncos in week one. It was from the start
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: of the game, you had this feeling. Three plays in, interception,
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Chiefs go down, score. There was just... It felt like
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: the field was tilted in one direction and it never
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: got back even. So the Broncos... They are stocked down.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: MVP stock up. I know there's the obvious names that
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: are out here. They're your Lamar Jacksons and Josh Allens
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: that seem to be back in the picture every single year.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: So I like to go sort of outside the box,
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: if you will. I'm going to take a look over
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: at Jackson Dart, and here's why. Do I think Jackson
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Dart's going to be in this discussion at the end
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: of the year?
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: No.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: But Jackson Dart did go 23 of 29 for 230
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: yards and three touchdowns. He's also incredibly mobile. And if
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: he learns, I don't need to be hit in the
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: head every time I take off for a scramble and
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: I should just slide, which it seems he has, it's
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: even better. He had 11 carries for 54 yards. Jackson
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Dart is a very versatile quarterback who brings a lot
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: of promise to the table. And when he plays a
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: clean game, Jackson Dart is somebody who looks really impressive.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: You do that and throw in the New York market,
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: if the Giants become some team that sneaks into the
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: playoffs this year and he has some pretty good numbers,
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: he's going to be in that discussion because I think
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: the New York market and the Giants being bad for
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: a long time and him maybe saving the franchise could
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: be a huge storyline that contributes to it. So Jackson Dart,
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: he gets the MVP stock up, MVP stock down. talked
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: about him already. I don't like going repeats on this,
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: but I think it probably is Justin Herbert. I mean,
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: he was somebody who went into this season with high expectations, um,
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: and have a performance like he did not going to
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: help anything. And he's going to have to battle and
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: climb his way back from a pretty huge hole that
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: he dug himself in the first week of the season. Um,
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: I could also look at Daniel Jones. If you remember
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: last year, through about eight weeks, Daniel Jones was sort
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: of this sweetheart pick for somebody who was going to
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: be in the MVP discussion. And then he goes down
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: with the season-ending injury, and then you think, okay, well,
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: he comes back next year, gets healthy. Maybe he can
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: pick up where he left off. The Colts' offense can
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: look great again.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: And.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: Daniel Jones can thrust himself back in that discussion. Well,
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: after the first week, the Baltimore Ravens win 41 to 23.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: The Colts lose at home. Daniel Jones was 19 of
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: 31 for 166 yards, one touchdown and one pick. Looked
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: and felt a lot like his games that he played
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: as a New York Giant. And that changes the entire
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: narrative and the entire story. So Daniel Jones, he'll get
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: the MVP stock down. Best game of the week.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: You have a few different options here. Despite the final score,
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: I thought Vikings-Packers was a pretty damn good football game.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: Cowboys and Giants, another good football game. I'm going with
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: the Bears and the Panthers. Any game that has nearly
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: 100 combined points in it, my style of game. Now,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: 59-37 sounds like the game wasn't close. Here's what's weird.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Bears go up big to start. Panthers, you blink, and
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: they're back in the football game. Bears go back up.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Panthers back in the football game, and then the Bears
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: take it away. I think it was great. It was
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: kind of from start to finish. like you couldn't keep
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: your eyes off of it if you had your eyes
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: on red zone that's basically the entire game that you
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: watched Bears Panthers that's my best game of the week
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: worst game of the week no god please no Anything
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: involving the Browns, I'm out. And Jags and Browns, 34-10.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: It was 24-0 at half. It was 31-0 two minutes
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: into the second half. It looked like, you know when
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: people talk about, hey, I bet you this college team
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: could beat this pro team. And it's like, no, they can't.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: That's what I think the game would look like. Zero
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: offense for the Browns. Could get nothing going. Quarterback play
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: was terrible. Couldn't run the football. Couldn't stop Trevor Lawrence
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: and that Jags offense at all. And so that's the
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: worst game of the week. And that is NFL stock up,
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: stock down. So reminder to you guys, a chance to
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: get in the building for the Avs opener. Text the
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: word LEAVES. To 303-504-0925. That is L-E-A-V-E-S. Leaves in your
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: first and last name to 303-504-0925. Gets you a chance
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: to get in the building for the opening game of
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: the AFC season. So a couple of texts of people disagreeing.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Some of the things that I have said in NFL
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Stock Up, Stock Down. One was team stock up, not
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: the Bears. The problem with the Bears is they gave
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: up 37. I need a holistic performance from somebody if
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: you're going to get that team stock up category because
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: it's one question I still have with Chicago. They're going
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: to score, obviously. But are they going to be able
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: to stop anybody? Big question for them. Carolina, they were
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: better last year on offense, but I don't think anybody...
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: confused them with, you know, one of the top offenses
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: in the league. So a whole bunch to discuss here
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: as we go along. Again, broadcasting from the Backus and
• 31:53
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• 31:56
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• 32:19
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• 32:25
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• 32:31
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• 32:33
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• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Now, a few things. As we move forward, um,
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: I can't stop talking about this and I apologize if
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: you guys are sick of this story, but sometimes things
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: hit me and I just can't let it go. I'm
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: big on the idea of self-awareness. I think that you,
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: all of us have flaws. All of us have things
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: we don't do well or things about ourselves that we
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: wish we could change or whatever. But, To be ignorant
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: of those problems and things that you do that might
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: bother people is, I think, the worst quality you can have.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: Outside of being like a murderer, okay? For the normal
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: people out there, self-awareness is such an underrated, invaluable quality
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: in a human being. It can save you in a
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: number of different ways. It can save you at work.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: I say it all the time. I am supremely disorganized.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: Thank God I got somebody like Nelly here. No reads
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: would get done. Nothing would happen without Nelly. I need him.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: I need that. I am disorganized and I wish I
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: could be better at it. And I try to be better,
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: but it's just, it's something that's a part of me.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: And I will admit that out loud and apologize to
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: people if I miss something or whatever. You need to
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: be able to recognize the things that you are bad
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: at because if you speak as if that's not a
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: problem for you, it makes you look terrible. And once again,
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: this guy opens his mouth in front of a microphone
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: and seems to have no idea how he sounds. Hey, Deshaun,
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: you're playing bad, right?
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: No, I think personally, I think all that is for
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: the media. I mean, I think the media has this
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: expectation that I'm supposed to throw 400 yards and five
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: touchdowns every week. So until that happens, I guess it's
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: going to be the same situation. So again, my job
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: is to make sure I'm operating well so we can
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: try to get a win and keep moving forward from there.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: I've never seen anything like it in my life. Deshaun
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Watson goes out last week, plays objectively terrible. Throws an
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: interception immediately, almost has another one right afterwards, takes five sacks,
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: all these different things. Team gets absolutely demolished 34-10. This
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: has been the MO of his Browns career, by the way.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: In playing for the Browns, He's played in 20 games.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: He has 20 touchdowns and he has 13 interceptions. That's
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: objectively awful. Not to mention all the other things that
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: we'll leave off to the side for a minute. If
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson cannot recognize the media is not out to
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: get you. And I don't know how many times I
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: need to describe this. I feel like I'm preaching to
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: the choir, but please choir, let me preach. We are
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: all very aware in sports, I think to a massive fault,
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: by the way, we will forgive. And I'm putting that
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: in air quotes, forgive. It's more like forget. Terrible things
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: you've done. If you play some good football, we'll do it.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: There are numerous examples in the past of it. things
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: that maybe a practice squad guy would do off the
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: field that would result in him being cut is swept
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: under the rug for the all pro.
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: I mean, Ray Lewis killed a guy.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: He did not kill a guy. He was accused. He
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: was accused of being an accessory to a man who
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: was killed in our justice system, found him innocent. So
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: them's the rules. Um, We will forgive terrible things you've
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: been accused of if you are good at football. Deshaun Watson,
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: the media is not out to get you. You stink.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: You're horrible. Like, think about this. If Deshaun Watson went
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: out that first week threw for four touchdowns and 250
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: or 300 yards. Is anybody saying anything to Deshaun Watson
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: other than, wow, what a performance. What went right for
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: you today? That's all it takes. We aren't stupid, but
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: somehow this guy thinks there's some sort of vendetta against him.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: And I'm going to tell you this, is part of
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: the perceived vendetta against Deshaun Deshaun Watson, have to do
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: with things off the field. Yeah, it does. But I
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: say this, again, not saying it's right, but I do
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: think it's true. The reason why Deshaun Watson is getting
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: as criticized as he is, the reason why he's being
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: made out as a joke in Cleveland is because he
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: can't play the sport anymore. That's why. And I just
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: can't believe that this team allows it to happen. I'll
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: remind you. What a decent franchise does when they realize
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: they made a mistake is they just move on. And
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: if you think that it's too punitive to totally move
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: on from him from a perspective of cutting him, fine.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Can't play. Can't play. And that's the problem. The Broncos
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: did this. They had it with Russell Wilson. Owed him
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: a ton of money. You know what they said? He
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: can't play. I'm not going to play him because I
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: feel like I have to because of a contract.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: You ever done anything dangerous?
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: He doesn't give us the best shot to win. The
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: Dolphins just did it with Tua. They said, I don't
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: care how much money he's owed. In fact, they said
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: it about $ 8. different people on that team. I don't
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: care how much money he's owed. He can't play. He
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: doesn't give us the best shot to win. That's it. Right.
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: And I mean, if he was playing well, or not
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: even blowing the doors off that team, if he was
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: just playing competent, good enough to win football, the media
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: would absolutely be massaging his ego.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah. There's no question. I want to tell you guys
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: right now, if Jonathan Cooper comes back and stinks, different
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: discussion than if he comes back and has, you know,
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: multi-sac games in his first couple. It's the truth. That's
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: how sports have kind of worked for ever, actually. Like, you,
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: I think you guys would be shocked to know some
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: of the stories of, especially like college football towns, especially
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: back in the day, the lengths they would go to
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: cover up some pretty awful stuff because dudes could play.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: But it just drives me nuts. It's like you are
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: being criticized, I think, almost unfairly. They should have those
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: things brought up. The allegations against him brought up multiple times.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Every time he speaks. And they aren't. You know what
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: they say? You throw a lot of picks. That's what
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: they're saying. And he goes, actually, I played way better
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: than you thought I did. And everything that you saw
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: actually was not my fault. So actually, actually, actually. Drives
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: me nuts. We'll talk to Chad Brown at 8 o'clock
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: this morning. We'll also talk to Jeff Legwald at 9.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: Get their sort of post-mortem with Chad on not just
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: the Broncos, but college football and the Buffs. We'll also
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: get that Jeff Legwald at 9 o'clock this morning. Lions
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: in Bills is going to be on tonight at 6.15,
• 41:32
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• 42:14
  Speaker 3: this game upcoming this weekend against the Jags. It's a
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: big one. You fall into an 0-2 hole, it's a
• 42:19
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• 42:22
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