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Ep. 368 - The Resurrected (1991) · Frightmares

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  Speaker 1: You are now listening to the Someone's Favorite Productions podcast network.
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  Speaker 1: The following podcast will contain spoilers, tangents, hot takes, and
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  Speaker 1: excessive foul language. Viewer discretion is advised enjoy the show.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to Frightmar's podcast. I'm your host, Austin Proctor.
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  Speaker 1: I told you it's gone and.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me today is the Sneez for God. For episode
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  Speaker 2: three sixty eight is my beautiful Sneezy wife, Gabrielle Procter.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna sneeze again at some point. I just want
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  Speaker 1: you to know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna put the fan on.
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  Speaker 1: It's blowing the dust into my nose.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna apologize everyone in advance now because allergy
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  Speaker 2: seasons in full swing in Florida. My mom told me
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  Speaker 2: that the pollen was was that a twelve?
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  Speaker 1: A twelve?
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  Speaker 2: I said, oh no, what does that mean? Out of
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  Speaker 2: what She's like, Yeah, what scale are we on here?
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  Speaker 2: Is this kelvin?
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  Speaker 1: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: She said, usually it's like a nine or at ten?
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  Speaker 2: And okay, sure, but anyways, like on.
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  Speaker 1: A normal day, because then that's not that much higher?
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  Speaker 1: Or is this like it's usually bad at a nine
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  Speaker 1: or two?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, but apparently because it hasn't rained in
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  Speaker 2: so long, it's just hanging out so fucking we are.
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  Speaker 2: It's not great, So I'm gonna try to every.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry for every flairl you see.
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  Speaker 2: Today. On another installment of marsh Labness, we're discussing our
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  Speaker 2: Deep Cut Pick, the resurrected from nineteen ninety one, a
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  Speaker 2: movie that shows us that you don't have to dislocate
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  Speaker 2: your shoulder to remove a straight jacket. Jesus, let's see
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  Speaker 2: where this lands in the nightmare index. Let's talk about
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  Speaker 2: what we've recently watched since you and I obviously lived
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  Speaker 2: together spoiler alert, we watch a lot of the same things.
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  Speaker 2: Do we watch now? We have two screeners for movies
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  Speaker 2: that we haven't watched yet. But we did watch some
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  Speaker 2: things in the theater. One thing in the theater, two
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  Speaker 2: things in the theater. I can't remember. What is list?
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  Speaker 1: What is life? You and I watched one thing in
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  Speaker 1: the theater and we watched a new thing at home.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm hmm. What was the last pre animator? Oh,
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  Speaker 2: I've watched so much. Oh Jesus Christ, scream seven. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: gotta talk about screams like I want to figure out
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  Speaker 2: a way to work. Work this movie into the format
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  Speaker 2: this or into the show. But it's just not gonna
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  Speaker 2: happen Scream seven. Okay, listen, everybody listen. I took to
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  Speaker 2: social media gave my qualms with the movie, and this
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  Speaker 2: is exactly why I don't talk poorly about movies, because
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  Speaker 2: everyone was losing their fucking shit over my real problems
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  Speaker 2: and issues with this movie. And this is gonna be
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  Speaker 2: spoilers because I have to talk about this movie. It's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be in a little fucking description. We're going into
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  Speaker 2: spoilers on Scream seven. If you have not watched it,
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  Speaker 2: go forward. Everyone lost their mind. Two out of five.
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  Speaker 2: Not a good movie. It's not the guy you showed
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  Speaker 2: me on TikTok. Explaining the possibility of what the ending
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  Speaker 2: could be makes a lot of sense, But we shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: have to frankenstein that ending together.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah if what he because like, it didn't in any
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  Speaker 1: way ring untrue. It felt very in line with what
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  Speaker 1: was happening. However, if I need a random dude on
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  Speaker 1: the internet to make it make more sense for me,
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  Speaker 1: they didn't write it well enough.
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  Speaker 2: No, uh man, let's see what problems did I have? Okay,
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  Speaker 2: So first off, the opening was great, but didn't make
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  Speaker 2: any sense because the only reason it happened was to
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  Speaker 2: get Gail there, who wasn't even in the final act
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  Speaker 2: of the movie. She wasn't there for the big showdown.
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  Speaker 1: So why did they didn't even seem to acknowledge that
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  Speaker 1: Gail was even around for any of it to begin with.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, well, she's part of the originals, that's
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  Speaker 1: why she has to be there. Yeah, but they never
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  Speaker 1: once mentioned that they even gave a shit that she
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  Speaker 1: was there.
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  Speaker 2: No, in their whole you know monologue at the end,
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  Speaker 2: they don't mention her. She's not there, so the and
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  Speaker 2: that's why I said, it has nothing to do with
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  Speaker 2: the movie, and everyone's like it was mentioned twice. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I know, I'm saying in the grand scheme of things,
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't tie into the movie in any way. So
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  Speaker 2: that was my biggest problem. Like, sure, it was cool. Also,
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was supposed to be an Airbnb resembling
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  Speaker 2: the house. I don't know if that's actually the case anymore,
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  Speaker 2: cause I guess it was.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds like it was, but also maybe it wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: Because he said the guy in the beginning was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: they got everything down to the right detail, like indicating
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  Speaker 2: because you know, it was obviously in Airbnb because they
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  Speaker 2: were saying there. But so it was very strange. And
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  Speaker 2: then those people in the in the cold open were
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  Speaker 2: not in the rest of the movie obviously because they died.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, usually people in the cold opens are in
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  Speaker 2: the well I mean, okay, besides Casey, but you know, they.
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  Speaker 1: Were irrelevant in the sense that those deaths tend to
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  Speaker 1: get brought up, like you know, Casey dying, She's brought
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  Speaker 1: up throughout the movie.
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  Speaker 2: They don't bring the start.
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  Speaker 1: Of the events. There's a reason she got killed.
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  Speaker 2: They don't bring those people up. Ever. Again, they don't
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  Speaker 2: mention it except for, oh, we burned down the house
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  Speaker 2: to get Gail here.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, the kid, like the people that get killed
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  Speaker 1: at beginning of Scream two, they I believe were also
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  Speaker 1: students at the school. But it was supposed to kick
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  Speaker 1: start off the idea that the movies made me do it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the third one we had Oh my god, I'm blinking
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  Speaker 1: on the opening of the third movie right now.
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  Speaker 2: It's the one reason traffic.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, Chris obviously weird Cotton. So Cotton's kind
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  Speaker 1: of self explanatory. The fourth one has a like movie
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  Speaker 1: in a movie in a movie making the best about
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  Speaker 1: stab and then the last girl who gets attacked is
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  Speaker 1: a friend of the girls in the movie, like they're
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  Speaker 1: they're all related. These are people who just happened to
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  Speaker 1: be at Stew's house to really heavily imply it Stew.
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  Speaker 1: But then you immediately reveal Stu in video, and then
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  Speaker 1: it's like, okay, well, then it's clearly not Stu.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and also, they announced Matthew Lillard being in its
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  Speaker 2: far before it released, and you can immediately rule him
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  Speaker 2: out because if you say he's going to be in
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  Speaker 2: the movie, we're not about to unmask him as the killer.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's insane. So uh, there was literally no reason
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  Speaker 2: to bring Stu back. I wanted that madness in five.
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  Speaker 2: I did, even though it didn't make sense, wouldn't have
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  Speaker 2: been a crowd pleaser. I was like, it would be
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  Speaker 2: just fucking do it. And then they didn't do it
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  Speaker 2: and things are falling, so bringing him back now I
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  Speaker 2: didn't give a shit. I did not care. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: this just stupid, it's gonna be AI and it was
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, man, there was some cool kills, but
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  Speaker 2: then the whole ending where Sydney can't get in a car,
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  Speaker 2: so she just starts running and running for miles and
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  Speaker 2: every and go get the keys, and every time she
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  Speaker 2: stops to answer the text messages, but doesn't fucking call
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  Speaker 2: the cops. What are we doing here? Your husband? Like
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  Speaker 2: I know her husband at that point was you know,
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  Speaker 2: dying on the floor, So.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't know that.
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  Speaker 2: She doesn't know that. That's what I'm saying, You don't
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  Speaker 2: call him. No one's wondering where the fucking chief of
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  Speaker 2: police of the.
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  Speaker 1: Where did all the police go? It's this shit's happening
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  Speaker 1: at your house, and no one fucking knows one where
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  Speaker 1: the chief of police is. And two not one cop
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  Speaker 1: has come to check on you. And the chief of
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  Speaker 1: police has been missing for hours. Literally it was daylight
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  Speaker 1: when this time started. This was hours prior to the
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  Speaker 1: climax of the movie. No one fucking noticed.
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  Speaker 2: And everyone's in court not quarantine, uh, curfew, Yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: cops should be littered in the st And then the
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  Speaker 2: reveal is like, oh, you're that guy from the psych
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  Speaker 2: Word Okay, Oh and it's the neighbor uh huh.
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  Speaker 1: And like I said, the explanation that we got after
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  Speaker 1: the fact for the guy on TikTok who's explaining it.
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  Speaker 1: It made more sense that way, And but I think
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  Speaker 1: it didn't land as well for you and me because
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's supposed to be a call out to
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  Speaker 1: the fans who feel like they're owed their legacy characters
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  Speaker 1: and that these people owe their lives and careers to
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  Speaker 1: us the fans.
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  Speaker 2: They don't, And that's how the neighbor felt.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and like, once you take that into consideration, that
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  Speaker 1: totally makes sense. You and I never felt that way
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  Speaker 1: about the legacy characters, Like would it be cool? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Sidney wasn't in the last one. The reason she wasn't
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  Speaker 1: in it, Yeah, that sucked, But I still had fun
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  Speaker 1: with the movie. And I don't feel like any characters
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  Speaker 1: specifically owed. It's really fun when they come back, But
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, you don't. Once you do lose all the
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  Speaker 1: original characters, even if it's like the original characters from
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  Speaker 1: the fourth film on or something like that, that's fine,
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  Speaker 1: But once you lose everybody and you're completely clean slate,
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  Speaker 1: that does start to feel like we've lost the point
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  Speaker 1: or like lost the franchise. But you know, I've never
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  Speaker 1: felt like they had to be in these movies, Like, well,
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  Speaker 1: Nev Campbell is selfish if she doesn't show up, No,
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  Speaker 1: she's not.
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  Speaker 2: She want she wants to get paid and she should
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  Speaker 2: get paid.
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  Speaker 1: And also it's her business if she's like I, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I love the franchise, but I want to do other
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  Speaker 1: things that is also your business.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know, didn't hit for me. What's crazy
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  Speaker 2: it is is it's literally the worst rated on Letterbox.
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  Speaker 2: I know that's what I use. That's my metric. It's
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  Speaker 2: two point four beating out Screen three at a two
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  Speaker 2: point nine, so the worst rated. And I'm coming on
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  Speaker 2: the internet to be like but I don't like this.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone's like, okay, guys, it's wow. This is why I
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  Speaker 2: don't talk bad about movies like on TikTok or social media.
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  Speaker 2: I think this is exactly why. But John did tell
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  Speaker 2: me that it was engagement, so I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I guess that's fair, but I don't. I don't like
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  Speaker 2: to be that guy.
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  Speaker 1: And it's also possible to have it different when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to movies, Like there's plenty of things that yes,
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  Speaker 1: feel you with a lot of rage and like, especially
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: when it comes to people in the real world, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that can bring out some bad feelings. There's a way
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: to talk to people without outright insulting strangers, especially when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to movies. You didn't make the movie, Relax,
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  Speaker 1: you know, if you like it, that's fine.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Do I think Hell Razor is a terrible movie? Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Am I gonna shot on you for not liking it? No,
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  Speaker 1: because I like an In fact, I didn't. You didn't
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  Speaker 1: make it. I don't care if you like it.
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  Speaker 2: I in fact will say I am happy that it
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  Speaker 2: works for you, because it does not work for me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm a big fan of the Ghost Faith franchise. Here.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I've got like, we've got ghost Face all
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  Speaker 1: over the place.
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  Speaker 2: And I couldn't see him in there. Do it again?
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  Speaker 2: Put him a little closer there you go.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I'm a big fan of ghost Face.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Scream I've I've been since
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  Speaker 1: it terrified me as a child, the ghost Face. You
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  Speaker 1: didn't like us talking, but yeah, I'm sorry. This was
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  Speaker 1: the first time. And I'm really easy to please. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I am not one of the people who doesn't like
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  Speaker 1: Scream three. I like Scream three.
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  Speaker 2: I think I think I still gave that a three.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's still a good movie. It's just the weakest
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  Speaker 2: of the bunch until this one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I still have fun with it. The first
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  Speaker 1: three are very well placed in my heart, and but
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  Speaker 1: this was just like, uh that the action was there,
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  Speaker 1: sure that the kills were fun. We got some wonkey
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  Speaker 1: cgi and there, which was a bummer, but uh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't care about anybody, and I just like by
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  Speaker 1: the time we got to the end of like, I
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  Speaker 1: can't even imagine what this reveal is gonna build up to,
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  Speaker 1: because they've just been threatening to kill her a bunch
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  Speaker 1: and usually it's like you're gonna learn this lesson or
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  Speaker 1: some shit like that.
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  Speaker 2: Nope. Yeah, and then what's their faces from five and six?
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know their names. I can't remember the
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  Speaker 2: fucking Randy's niece and Trevor whatever his name is. They're
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  Speaker 2: back for now.
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  Speaker 1: Trevor's the boyfriend in the fourth made.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever they're back for. Honestly no reason at all. Everyone
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  Speaker 2: else dies they somehow sort of.
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  Speaker 1: It's just and it was their fault.
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  Speaker 2: Have the kids died, it was their fault because they
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: all had them meet up and they were supposed to
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  Speaker 2: be locked down. Just you know, I'm I'm just so upset.
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  Speaker 2: Not upset, but I guess I'm disappointed. I'm a father
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  Speaker 2: here in.
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  Speaker 1: Ken I'm mad. I'm just disappointed.
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  Speaker 2: And Kevin Williamson because I know he's so much better
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  Speaker 2: than that. He's written so many good things. And then
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, but nevertheless, not for me. If it
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  Speaker 2: worked for you, that's great. Like I don't care, that's fine.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be upset that it work for someone.
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  Speaker 2: But my favorite thing that is happening right now is
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  Speaker 2: everyone sharing their scream rankings. Nothing is more toxic than
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: when someone shares their rankings to go to the comment
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  Speaker 2: section like this is the worst ratings ever, Like it's
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  Speaker 2: my rating. I always go, hey, I don't agree with this,
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  Speaker 2: but I mean, you know, I just always try to
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  Speaker 2: be neutral. There's no reason to be like, this is
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  Speaker 2: the worst rating I've ever seen of the franchise. It's
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  Speaker 2: not yours. Throw yours in the comments and leave it
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  Speaker 2: at that. Fucking go away.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't imagine these strong opinions. I would get
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  Speaker 1: on these if someone actually bothered to read my Marvel's
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  Speaker 1: movies ranked Because it's chaotic to Thunderbolts.
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  Speaker 2: Is number one.
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  Speaker 1: It's not for me, it is, it's number two.
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  Speaker 2: Thunderbolts number one. Guardians of the Galaxy was number one
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  Speaker 2: for years until Thunderbolts.
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  Speaker 1: But it is absolute chaos and movies that other people
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  Speaker 1: absolutely hate it.
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  Speaker 2: I loved to and whatever, and just to piss anybody
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  Speaker 2: off at this point because it's I guess it's fun.
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  Speaker 2: Scream five whatever, Scream from twenty twenties, that's my favorite one.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone can rage in my Spotify comments. There you go,
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  Speaker 2: and the original screen is like number five out of seven. Sorry,
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  Speaker 2: doesn't work for me. And that's not even This is
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  Speaker 2: not even raised Bay. This is legitimate, real life. You've
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  Speaker 2: seen my scream list and it makes you sad every time. Anyways,
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  Speaker 2: we talked about this movie for long enough. Let's just
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  Speaker 2: talk about the other big one that we saw, and
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: then I'll rattle off my cult movie challenges and then
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  Speaker 2: we'll move on.
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  Speaker 1: Oh wow, I don't get to share any of my watches.
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  Speaker 1: You just never leave room for me to share any
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  Speaker 1: of my recent watches.
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  Speaker 2: Do all right, go ahead, rattle them off, Thank you,
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  Speaker 2: rapid Fire.
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  Speaker 1: Go. First of all, I watched Thief with James Kahn.
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  Speaker 1: It was amazing. I was genuinely so surprised. Thief from
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  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty.
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  Speaker 2: One Blonde Eyebrows.
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  Speaker 1: Noo, I'm getting there, you said, rattle them off?
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  Speaker 2: Oh sorry, I thought it was yeah, bad, my bad,
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  Speaker 2: go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: I also watched Hunt for the Wilder People, which is
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: an early Taikawa Titi movie with Sam Neal in it.
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  Speaker 1: I highly recommend that one. I almost cried, thought that there's touching.
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  Speaker 1: And then I watched a movie from nineteen eighty five
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  Speaker 1: called The New Kids, directed by the same guy who
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: directed the original Friday the Thirteenth, Sehn S.
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  Speaker 2: Cunningham.
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  Speaker 1: Holy crap, that's got Lori Laughlin in it and James
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  Speaker 1: Spader that's his name, And they'd named the actor who
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: plays Lori Laughlin's brother in it. But he did that
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  Speaker 1: movie and then he was like, I'm done with acting forever.
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, goodbye. It's chaotic, So straight is it?
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  Speaker 2: Chaotic? Neutral? Chaotic evil? What is it?
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  Speaker 1: It's just it's just pure chaos. Like guys in a
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  Speaker 1: small town. When these set of siblings move in with
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  Speaker 1: their uncle after their parents died, these guys decide they're
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: gonna sleep with that new girl, and the new girls
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  Speaker 1: like pass hard, pass on all of that. So then
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: they're like, okay, so instead we're gonna harass you and
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  Speaker 1: commit vandalism and violence and uh like literally get all
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  Speaker 1: the way up to murder because you just won't go
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  Speaker 1: on dates with us, Like.
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  Speaker 2: Was that? Was there any sexual assault?
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  Speaker 1: They tried to sexually assault her multiple times, but one
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  Speaker 1: time they covered her in lighter fluid as a method
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  Speaker 1: with which to be like, well, we could sexually assault
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  Speaker 1: you or to light you on fire.
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  Speaker 2: Like what year was this?
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  Speaker 1: Nineteen?
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  Speaker 2: So this is like like a yeah, so this is
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  Speaker 2: like I spit on your grave. But without all of
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  Speaker 2: the graphic sexual assault.
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  Speaker 1: You never got to the sexual assault. Blessedly, the most
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: nute anybody gets is James Spader is in his tiny
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: blue speedo underwear. Platinum blonde with platinum eyebrows. Was really
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: jarring with his strong eye contact. I was like Jesus Christ.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: They wanted him to make like look fucking crazy and
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: as someone who lives in Florida, it's set in Florida.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: One of the funniest things about it is the number
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: of Floridians in the letterbox reviews going I live in
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: the southern areas of Florida and can attest that the
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Southern boys are this fucking crazy.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're not wrong. Definitely a wild ride. She
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: just like, what the hell's going on?
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: All right? What's that called? Never back down? No?
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: The new kid, never going back? And if you feel
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: like you want to see James Spader be the hero,
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: you can also watch him in Tough Turf, which is
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: him playing the new kid dealing with bullies, also random
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: acts of violence. It's he was having a weird year.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: I guess all.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Right, rattling these off as quickly as I can. I
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: had three movies from AV Entertainment that they sent over
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: House of Darkness from twenty twenty two with Justin Long
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Kate Bosworth. Fucking love this movie. I really enjoyed it.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: It doesn't have great ratings. Gave it to three and
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: a half. Loved the vibes. Kate Bosworth was mesmerizing, Justin
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Long was Justin Long. Stickman's Hollow is a found footed
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: GPOV styly movie, A lot of fun, kind of takes
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: the established format of POV and the something a little
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: bit different with it. Really enjoyed that four out of five.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Ghost Train also has about the same ratings as House
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: of Darkness and to was it Korean right, Korean kind
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: of anthology esque story? What did you give that one?
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Three and a half?
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Maybe think I give it a three and a half.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: I said it. I didn't rate it or write a
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: review on it, but I did say it felt very
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: much like telling scary stories when you're a kid to
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: your friends that it felt very much like that kind
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: of storytelling where it's very short, very to the point,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: but it's something spooky happens.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: And woo yeah at haunting Imagery, very spooky shit. Gave
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: that one a four as well. We watched it to
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: the original Death Name, which honestly had an incredible premise,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: but I think it's a lack of budget kind of
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: held it back just at love.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: To see what they did with a full budget.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: I would have. Honestly, It's one of the rare times
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: where I wanted more movie. Typically it was like eighty
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: seven eighty two minutes, that's my sweet spot. But I
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: was like, you know, I would have liked to see
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: this fleshed out just a little bit more.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because they had a really cool premise going and
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: I just don't think they have the time or the
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: money to get more into it or to flesh it
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: out more, which is fine, but which is unfortunate because
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: everything else they had was going really well for it,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: like we were both engaged and like, oh, what's happening?
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Good stuff? And that's a two be originals, so you
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: can catch that on to B. I went to the
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: theater for a sneak preview of Dolly last week and
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: loved it. It is definitely for a very specific audience,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: though it is a love letter to seventies grindhouse kind
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: of exploitation film, so if you're not into that, would
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: not recommend four out of five for me. It's also
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: shot on sixteen millimeter. Sean William Scott and Ethan Suppley
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: are in it, so do with that information what you will.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: They were fucking amazing and that was a lot of fun.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: And then from the corrections department, Eyes Without a Face
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: was never actually on Chiller Theater. I must have confused
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: it for Fiend Without a Face for my cult movie challenge,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: because I went to go write my review for Eyes
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: without a Face and saw that it wasn't you know,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: I wanted to quote the Season number an episode for
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Chiller Theater, a week on the Cult Movie Challenge and
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: couldn't find it, so I had to do another movie
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: and I ended up watching the Original Mummy Boris Karloff,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: and holy shit, I didn't know that man could act
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: like that. I've only seen him grunting and groaning as
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Monsters hot take on the Universal Monsters. So far, that
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: is my favorite. Gave it a four and a half.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Mummy Is it was so good. And then what I
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: watched this week was Shivers Cronenberg. It was can Exploitation week,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: and that's you can go read my review because I'm
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: not going to get into it. But Shivers was definitely
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: a movie I saw with my eyes. Definitely David Cronenberg.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: You can see where because that was like his first
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: movie with the budget. I think he did one movie
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: before that, so this was his first movie with a budget,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: and you can see where he went from to do
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: like scanners and video drome and all that stuff. It
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: was a little too weird for me and a little
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: too sexually charged.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah I've read the blur, but I was like, have fun.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: I'm out. Yeah, three out of five, but yeah, that's
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: all I got. And then we saw The Bride. I
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: don't know what the fuck to do with that movie.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I had so much fun with it.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: I don't it's either I told Michael. I was like,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: it's either a complete illogical, nonsense mumbo jumbo or it's
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: actually one of the most brilliant films of the twenty
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: first century.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Well, and I think what we said was, you know,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: like which everyone's been saying, is like Maggie Gillenhall really
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: swung for the fences definitely and got really weird with it,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: like she did not hold herself back at all, and.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I and it felt like you felt that everybody was
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: in it and having a good time on set, and
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: that really translates. And Jesse Buckley gave an amazing performance.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Like I said, the only thing that really was like
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: off putting for me was the possess aspect.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: That's fair.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: But other than that, like, I had fun with it.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: I really liked how I know, it's really in your
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: face feminism where it's like really obvious points they're trying
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: to hit, But I liked that they said it, and
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: they said it through the lens of someone who just
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: doesn't have a shit left to give.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, it's the exact story I wanted
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: from the Bride of Frankenstein, where you know, yeah, it's
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: not just we're gonna give you this person. Frankenstein's like,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: I am so fought well in this movie, you know,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: it's not Frankenstein's monster. He's just taking the name Frankenstein.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: They call him frank He's like, I'm so lonely. Helped me.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: That's what I wanted. And then how they come together
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: is just everything I wanted from the Bride of Frankenstein.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and and her calling out the weirdness of
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: the fact that she didn't ask for this, they just
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: did it to her and now now she's his property,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Like what what? Because we were talking about that with
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: watching the because we rewatched the original going to see it. Yeah, Franken, Yeah,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: it's really messed up that a bunch of dudes got
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: together and thought, yeah, we'll make a lady doesn't really
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: matter if she wants to be a part of this
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: or not. She's gonna be his friend. She doesn't get
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: a say, and then she immediately comes to life, is like,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be here.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: This is terrible.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and obviously and that film Frank Frankenstein's Monster really
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: comes to the point very quickly, like we shouldn't have
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: done this. Once he sees it from the outside, what
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: happened to him, he is like this was wrong and
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: to really flesh out that whole concept so much more
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: in this food film, I really enjoyed because it's it's
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: really something that need to be discussed, is like women
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: being treated like property.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this was a great I don't know, it's like
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: I loved it, but I need it's gonna need to rewatch.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: It's gonna but it was very good, very strong women
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: in power, which I love saying. We should probably get
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: on to the next thing though, because go we'll throw
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: into the AI.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Went into a scream tangent.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Sorry, I got a lot of things to say. I'm
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: I'm fucking charged up today for The Resurrected. Anyways, let's
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: do the body count. I'm gonna blow through this as
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: quickly as I can. This is The Resurrected from nineteen
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: ninety one, released on April fifteenth of nineteen ninety two
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: in the US as a video home premiere, did not
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: get a theatrical run. So one of my questions I'm
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: going to ask you has been answered and we'll get there.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Rated Our for violence and language, no sex and nudity,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: severe violence and go or mile profanity, mild alcohol, drugs
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: and smoking, and severe fraightening in atten scenes coming in
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: at an hour and forty eight minutes. Listed as a
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: straight horror directed by Dan O'Bannon, who also directed the
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Return of the Living Dead, and that's it. Outside of
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: one short film, he was primarily a writer. He wrote
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Alien Dead and Buried, which we just covered. Life Force
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: and Total Recall written by Brent Friedman from Hedman, who
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: also wrote Tics and Michael Viers Will Appreciate That, Mortal
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Combat Annihilation and then tales from the Borderlands video game
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Really Okay composed by Richard band. If he sounds familiar,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: that's because he was on our last episode, because he
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: composed Reanimator from Beyond and nearly every Full Moon feature.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Cinematography by IRV Goodnoff, who also did the cinematography for
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Evil Speak, The Witches of Eastwick and Extra three Watched
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: the Skies. Edited by Russell Livingstone, who edited nine episodes
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: of The Dukes of Hazard TV show Playboys erotic fantasies
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: and three episodes of Cops Looking In starring John Terry
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: as John March. He was also in Full Metal Jacket
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: as Lieutenant Lockhart or Lockhart Jane Sibbet Sibet as Claire Ward.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: She was in fifteen episodes of Friends as Carol Chris
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Sanderson as Dexter char Charles Dexter, Dexter Ward, I don't like,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: can't say that name Slash Joseph Kerwin. He was also
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: in Fright Night as Jerry Dandridge Roman I'm Terrible Robert
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Romaness as Lonnie Peck. He was in Fast Times at
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Ridgemont High as Mike Damon. I Can't Speak Today, Struggling
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Lori Briscoe as Holly Tender. She was in Breaking Point
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: as Lynn Vickers. Estimated budget of four million, not grossing
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: anything because it didn't go to theaters. Shot in Vancouver,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: British Columbia, Canada. You can watch this on absolutely nothing,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: which is annoying, although there is a screen factory release
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: and a vinegar Syndrome release if you want to buy
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: it physically from boutique labels. Movies that came out around
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: the same time meat Balls four my cousin Vinnie Base Againstinct,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: noises Off, white men can't jump, Huahwork two, that's supposed
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: to be waxwork too, Lost in Time, Beethoven, Sleepwalkers, fern Gully,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: The Last Forests, and Leprechaun. How many have you not seen?
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I have seen five Jesus meat Balls, correct.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: White men can't jump, correct, waxwork two, lapp m. Beethoven. No,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: I've seen that Waxwork two. You already said that, fucking Sleepwalkers. Yeah, uh,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: that's it. You've seen everything else.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: I've never seen basic instinct.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Oh shit, I really thought you had.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: But I have seen noises Off.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Trust me. Wild Movie showed me it and it made
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: me very stressed.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I forgot that it may trigger anxiety.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: I was like, have a thing. We're watching people running
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: around in a panic. Gives you anxiety?
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Gives me?
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great film anyways.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: IMDb Sumray Charles dexter Ward's wife enlist the help of
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: a private detective to find out what her husband is
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: up to in a remote cabin owned by his family
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: for centuries. This is the autopsy.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: So the way you said that made it sound like
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: her name was Charles Charles dexter Wards wife.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Yes, Charles dexter Ward's wife. Overall thoughts, gebby, what do
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: we got?
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: I really enjoyed this. This was fun to watch. Yeah,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I've always had kind of a hard time with h Lovecraft,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: the Lovecraft movies because they're so out there most of
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: the time that I'm just like, yeah, they're sure is
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: stuff happening? I think I'm really sure. You really just
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: gotta like accept what you're seeing and just go with it.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: You really are like, does it make sense, doesn't matter,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: it's happening. This one, I had a lot easier time
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: following what was going on, despite the multiple flashbacks within
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: flash back. Ah, they really just wanted to take you
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: so many layers back. You're like, I don't know what
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: fucking year it is.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Man, I've got a great joke on that one later.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: But it was really interesting. It was cool to see
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Prince Humperton in something else.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: I'm just glad I've been picking movies and selected like
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: I've been selecting people I typically wouldn't for certain movies,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: and it's been working out, Like uh, Corey with the
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Deep Cut we did last month, Dead and Buried fucking
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: loved it you with this one, I was like, let
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: me let me just try and switch switch a you know.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Me, I'm willing to try a lot of things.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Obviously I won't like re Animator. I knew you. I
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: was like, that's not like, that's not going to be her,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: So let me let me get a fan.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Uh did you know the one scene just took me
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: out of that movie forever, which is not the only
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: time that kind of things happened. Like anything, there's a
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: certain like amount of schevs me out that once it
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: happens like yet and I'm out.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: But no. I thought this was really fun. It was
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: nice seeing some actors that I only seen in a
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: few things and some other stuff, and like the score
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: was like really.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Nice Richard band man.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: It was. It was just really fun. It was It
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: was an enjoyable good time. It's a shame that this
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: didn't get a release because it would probably be more
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: popular than it is.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, I've got theories and speculations on that.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Oh boy.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: My overall thoughts, I think this is a truly slept
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: on Jim that thrives on atmosphere mystery and has a
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: third act that sprints to the finish line while cranking
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: everything up to eleven. But this will not be for everyone,
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: as the movie begs you to be patient, because the ending,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: to me at least, is well worth the wait. So yeah,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: so I think we should start with why this movie
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: didn't do well, why it's not really well known. And
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: I had I had all of this speculation and all
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: of just that. I have so many notes that I
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: wrote down, and then I did the IMDb thing and
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: I was like, didn't get a theatrical release. It went
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: straight to video, That's why. But nevertheless, just indulge me here.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: So for me, I think it's crazy that even though
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: it went straight to VH because this is you know,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: early nineties is the days of the video stores. People
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: would go there and just oh, that's got a fun title,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: let's just rent it. It was directed by Dan O'Bannon.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: He did, you know, The Return of the Living Dead
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: was a huge success from my understanding, and he's also
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: written movies like Alien, you know, stuff like that, so
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: he was already pretty well established in horror. So my
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: speculation is that outside of the fact that it went
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: to straight to VHS, maybe people were over loved Craft adaptations,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: because follow me here, right, Loosely based movies on Lovecraft's
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: work would be stuff like The Beyond from Folgy eighty one,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: John Carpenter's The Thing, Prince of Darkness. Those are things
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: that are love Crafty and adjacent, right, But then you
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: have Reanimator eighty five, from Beyond eighty six, The Curse
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: eighty seven, The Unnameable eighty eight. It's entirely possible people
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: saw this and were like, I'm just kind of over
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Lovecraft adaptation. We've gotten one every year. Plus this was
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: after the post slasher era in the eighties. Horror was
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: in a really weird spot in the night.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: It could have easily been that we had moved on
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: to a different kind of horror.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Well, because you know, so everyone's over Slashers, they might
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: have been over the love Craft adaptations. This is pre
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Scream by five years. You know, we're not only revitalized
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: slasher movies but just horror in general. So here are
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: some of the movies that came out in nineteen ninety
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: And I think this also played into why this movie didn't.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: I think people were just not into horror in the
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: nineties because listen to all these sequels. You've got Predator
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: to Tremor's Jacob's Ladders, Okay, cool, Gremlins two, Child's Play Too,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: The Exostist three, Troll two, The Worst Texas Chainsaw Movie,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: leather Face, Texas Chainsaw three, Bride of Reanimator. So that's
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: still technically, I mean, it's not like a direct love
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: crafty and adaptation, but you know whatever, Franken Hooker, which
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: I love, Maniac Cup to basket Case to Slumber Party,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Masker three, The Gate to prom Nights. I mean, there's
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: so many sequels happening right now. I didn't realize that,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: and most of those sequels, a lot of those that
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: I'd mentioned aren't great sequels, So it's entirely possible people
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: in you know, nineteen ninety were just like, I'm kind
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: of this is horror, isn't a really weird spot? And uh,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: these we're getting so many fucking sequels that maybe people
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: were just like not really into finding new things that
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: they hadn't that wasn't in theaters, you know.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Well, and I think screenplayed a big part and really
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: revitalizing horror. So at this point we could be tapering off,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: and yeah, comedies were more popular cop films or cops
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: were more popular.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Actions at.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Those kinds of things were really taking more of a
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: center stage around this time, So it makes sense that
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: maybe they were just kind of in that they got
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: caught in between Yeah, enjoyment in horror and like, yeah,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: that it makes sense. It could have just kind of
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: gotten lost in the mix. Yeah, just like we were
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: talking about with a Zombies, had this come out at
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: a different time, it would have hit much harder.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: It'd have been gangbusters. So going into this movie, you
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: had not heard of this until I had told you
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: I told you that it was directed by Dan ol
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Mannon who did The Return of the Living Dead, which
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: you haven't fully seen, but you know enough about it
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: to know it's a zombie horror comedy. Yeah, and I
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: told you that he wrote Aliens. So knowing those two things,
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: going into this movie, did you have any sort of
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: expectations for what you might get?
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: No, because, frankly, I except forgetting what the film was. So, look,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: we're potty training our child right now. That's literally all
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: I ever think about. Okay, And I've been going trying
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: to actually do what we all claim we're going to
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: do sometime but never do which is whittle Town our
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: letterbox watch this fair. I've been trying to do that,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: but no, you were like, we're watching this movie thumbs up.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: I'm cool, whatever, man, let's do it. And then I
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: looked at the poster briefly. I saw Prince Hepfording was
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: in it, and I was like, okay, cool, I don't
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: even think and get read the blurb.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Oh okay.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: First I went in this super blind and it's differ
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: just like I'm here, Let's just turn it on.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Let's go all I see. All I really want to
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: know before going into a movie is just what the
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: letterbox rating is, just because that's it's a really good
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: gauge for me to be like, Okay, let me take
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: the title of this movie, the year, and the letterbox rating.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: I can get a really good idea of what to expect.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: But I don't need to I don't need to know
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: the summary. So how wildly different to Alien? I mean
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Alien in Return Living Dead are also wildly different? But
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: how different from those two movies was this movie The Resurrected?
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Oh if you told me that three different people directed
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: those movies, I would have believed you. Have you told
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: me that different people worked on those projects. They are
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: completely detached from each other. There I see no similarities.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he worked on all three of them, you know,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: directed to wrote one. So and since we did just
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: cover this in our in our last episode, you know, uh,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: this movie obviously vibes very much like Reanimator because I
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: didn't tell you this, which was my until like halfway through,
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: probably not the third act, when I said, oh, by
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: the way, this is an HP Lovecraft adaptation, and you're like, ah,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: this makes a lot more sense.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: It didn't. Yeah, and I was like, ah, yeah, that
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: makes it, like I see that it Honestly, if you
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: had told me outright probably wouldn't have made more sense.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: It will be like, as shit, I'm not gonna get this.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Oh maybe I told you so not knowing was like
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I was not expecting to be really freaking confused.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: So then I guess it worked in your favorite because
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: I think when I told you is when we saw
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: the monster in the pit at the like in the
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: third act, I was like, oh, by the way, and
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: you're like, oh, okay, that like that. So uh so,
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: since we did just cover Reanimator, to me, that one's
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: like a chaotic science, where this one is almost like
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: a controlled decay if you if you're watching them. So
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: even with the even with those similar vibes, I do
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: feel like they're vastly different. And to understand why this
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: movie feels so different, we got to take you back
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: to Providence. What Rhode Island.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Yep, that's where we.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Gotta go here, that's where HP Lovecraft is from. Apparently
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: so much like Reanimator, as this is based on an
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: HP Lovecraft book, this was actually based on or sorry.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: HP Lovecraft typically did short stories. The Case of Charles
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: dexter Ward is his only full length novel that HP
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Lovecraft ever did. It's his most in depth work, at
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: least from the information that I gathered, which is interesting
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: because I tried reading the Reanimator short story and didn't
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: get you know, didn't have enough time, and I was
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: gonna do that with this one, but then it said
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: full length you know novel. I said, Okay, I don't
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: have time for that. But it does have the same
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: exact plot. You know, Charles dexter Ward becomes fantasized with
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: his ancestor, Joseph Kerwin, a reputed wizard and necromancer, and
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: then of course that obsession leads him to study alchemy,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: the Kabbalistic arts qa b l A Cabalistic arts, eventually
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: allowing him to physically resurrect Kerwin, who takes over his body.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Setting is also in Providence, Rhode Island, So it's a
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: pretty on the nose adaptation. And then of course it
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: deal you know, the themes or it deals with the
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: dangers of forbidden knowledge, the powers of the past, and
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: the thin boundary between life and death, blending psychological horror
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: with cosmic dread. The cool thing about the book, though,
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: is the novel contains some of the first references to
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: entities and concepts that will become central to the Cthulhu mythos,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: including yog c Athos, which we read our daughter.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Do we have a book of colors that's all HP
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: love cut?
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yoga. So yeah, So this novel contains Cthulhu Mythos,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: yog Cethos, and the Necronomicon, some of the first iterations
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: of those three things. It was written in nineteen twenty seven,
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: before it was first published in an abridged form in
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: something called Weird Tales in nineteen forty one, and then
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: finally in its complete form in nineteen forty three, so
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: eight eighty years forty something years later got adapted into
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: a film, you know. Yeah, so I did read like
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: the cliff notes, and I would say this is a
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: pretty faithful adaptation, especially when it comes to you know,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: from book to screen because Reanimator, some of the names,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: some of the places, some of the things are the same.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: But Stuart Gordon just did his own thing. For the
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: most part. They tried to be true to it, but
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: you know, things happen. But I really like how the
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: story focuses on the dread and inevitability that something awful
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: is gonna happen, like you you know it's building to something,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: and you just even even though I had seen this
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: one time, I didn't remember anything, and the whole time
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't remember, but I was nervous the
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: whole time, like what's what's gonna happen? So like, kind
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: of walk me through how you felt when because it
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: is kind of it is very much a slow burn. Yeah,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: And I just want to know kind of your thought
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: process of getting the setup and then watching the events
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: play out by the time you get to that third
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: act and you get the reveal, like just give me
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: a little walkthrough of how you were vibing with the movie.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Well, I thought, once we really kind of start in
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: on that whole like what do you call that room?
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Like the padded room that they're in, We're like, oh,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Wards escaped and it's just like blood everywhere, Like that's
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: probably that. Yeah, I know, you appreciate when I do that.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: We always do that something that's scarably wrong, like that's
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: that's probably.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: That's probably fine. We just didn't get that on a shirt.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: That's probably fine. But that was like, oh, okay, that's interesting.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, so, something's wrong with this guy. And
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: then you kinda like it kind of felt like a
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: mystery situation going on through the first part of the film.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: But then I know they were talking about like these
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: grave raw robberies because at first I'm like, okay, so
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: he's like trying to make bodies. I guess it's kind
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: of giving this like Frankenstein corks robbing vibe. But then
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: they're like, but they're taking bones.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: They're like what, so is he is he trying to
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: make a person? Is he trying to bring them back
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: from the What is what is this guy doing?
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: And name dropping like famous uh, alchemists.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: And like Nicholas Flamel and shit.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so it was like, okay, so I don't like,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: he's trying to bring somebody to life, but he needs
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: the ashes of an alchemist. Hmm, that's weird. Okay. And
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: then they're like, yeah, these dogs, there'd be dogs everywhere
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: in this area, Like sure, is it because they're attracted
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: to the scent of the body.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Do you feel this movie threw you off?
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like big time, because once we got to
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: the oh, you can mush bodies together thing, and I
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: was like, what.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: The fuck, there's another Oh, it's it's very much like
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: you know, I feel like together definitely kind of Oh yeah.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Drew a lot of inspiration probably from I guess the
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: h We Lovecraft book.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Oh that wouldn't surprise me because it's.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Once I saw the merging of bodies, I was like,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: oh man, this is just it's like together. It's almost
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: like a modern adaptation of of The Resurrected. Honestly, that's
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: what it feels like.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: And so I really liked that though, that it felt
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: like it was leading you so hard in one direction
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: in your life and then it's like, actually, it's way
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: fucking weirder than that best of luck. Well, but then
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: you got some like really cool and interesting creatures like
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: oh oh, he's doing some weird shit.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Got it get real weird with it because it starts
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: off as very much as a mystery what's going to happen?
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: And then there's this tonal shift where Ward gets admitted
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: that it becomes like a character study on him, and
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: then it shifts tones again when they find the underground
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: labyrinth of tunnels. Then it's like a fucking Scooby Doo adventure.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: So you have these tonals like two major shifts, and
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: then of course the third act reveal. So it's like
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: this movie kind of takes you all over the place,
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: at least in my opinion, where was I. Oh yeah,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: And it focuses much more on the investigation side rather
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: than the spectacle side of it. And there's one of
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: the few Lovecraft adaptations that understands atmospheres over monsters, because
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: typically with love Crafts, it's just monsters. But this, like
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: I said in my opening statement, like this movie thrives
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: on the atmosphere it creates, which is not an easy
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: thing to do this well, and.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: To me, it also had a much clearer story going
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: on a lot of times they're like, which isn't it
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: A lot of the Lovecraft ones like, isn't it a
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: mysterious thing that's happening? All right? Come on the mystery tour.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: We're not gonna explain shit, You're just gonna see it,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: and then it's just fine. You'll know, like I what
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: the no, I fucking don't don'tone say some words, because
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: like a lot of Lovecraft movies are involved a lot
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: of people staring and going did you see them? Blip off?
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Like who are you? And what the fuck were you
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: talking about?
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know shit about fucking.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: And these guys felt like you had some really normal people, yeah,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: fair in all Lovecraft story you like, once you explain that, like,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: it felt like you dropped some really normal people in
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: a Lovecraft story where they're like, I mean, this is
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: some really weird shit, man, but I mean it's happening
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: in front of our eyes, so it's not not real,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: but what the fuck is it? And then they just
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: like the more clues they uncovered, they're like, Okay, well
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: this sounds really made up right, all right.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Far fetched?
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: And I really appreciated that because it wasn't just people like, ah, yes,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: it's normal for these things to happen because time is
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: an illusion. No, no one walking into that situation who's
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: never been in that scenario was like, yeah, it's normal
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: for dogs to chase you when they flipped from nowhere.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: And also there's a temple in the middle of nowhere
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: that you can only see every hundred years. Sorry, that
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: was a brig of dune joke.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Oh oh, I thought I thought you were talking in
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: the mouth of madness.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: It was both, Oh, I just don't remember how the
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: hell that came up. How often the temple was like
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: just like, oh, you can find it if you know
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: the riddles. Okay, answered me. Didn't we say that on
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: the last episode, like bro I okay. But in so
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: many of these stories, everybody it just it's like watching dude,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: he's just complete.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: His name's completely Jeffrey Combs, No start twin Peaks, h
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: Kyle McLaughlin now the director.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, David Lynch.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: David Lynch. Everybody's fucking weird in every David Lynch movie,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: and they're they're all just living in weird land, and
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: we just have to embrace the fact that they're all
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: going to act like this very strange personality of people
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: that don't exist, which isn't bad by any means, but
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, fucking I don't know what's happening either man.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: And that's what happens with a lot of these Lovecraft stories.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: This one felt like you had regular people who are like,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: but I'm sorry, but why would he need that thing?
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: And he's reading the book. They're like, well, that's so
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: he's bringing back dead people. And the guy's like that's ridiculous.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, but we've got a third party perspective who's
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: witnessed it, so that feels more plausible.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Plausible, deny it, that's not no, that's the wrong thing.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: And it felt like I could connect with the story
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: more because I felt like I wasn't someone who's just
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: supposed to understand this is how the world works.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: They didn't get it either. This was everybody was living
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: a normal life right up until this shit went down.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Well you just cooked right there. I was letting you go, uh, well,
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: I agree, because it's and that's why I said it
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: feels very much like Reanimator because it's a Lovecraftian story,
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: but it's also almost a complete inverse of Reanimator, because
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: we're in that movie he's literally bringing dead people back
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: to life in front of everyone who's just seems to
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: go with that. I mean, Dan is obviously traumatized, but
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: he still goes along with all of Herbert's madness everyone,
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: and this is like, ah, man, this is like so
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: far fetched. I don't I don't think this is real.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: And then when they tested the lab, they're like, wow,
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: I just saw it at work, So I guess he's
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: bringing people back to life.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: I guess let's give it a go. Damn. I'm like, well, shit,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: it is real. I guess we blow it up or something.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but we should not. Like they're like,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: this is an abomination for sureseys we cannot let this
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: be like a thing that.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Happens, and we do. We do get some great abominations,
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: some great creatures.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: All those are so cool that when they dragged the
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: corpse they dragged out of the river, Yeah.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: That was and that was a really good practical effect too.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: But it's not cosmic horror through exposition. I feel like
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: it's cosmic horror through implication because there's so many like
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: you get exposition, but it doesn't explain anything until the
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: very end. So it's all the implications of things. So
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: that's where the cosmic horror comes from me And I
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: think this is what happens when you would have Lovecraft
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: and actually commit to the dread rather than you know,
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: just the tentacles the vibes. But you know, love Lovecraft
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: on the page is one thing. Translating that to screw
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: is a completely other thing. And I think they did
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: it very well because the gothic vibes, the production design.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: I love the small town setting. I love it wasn't
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: really a mansion, but it felt like a mansion just
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: because of how small it looked on the ass. It was.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: It was like the what is it? The out out
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: of the box, out of the like there there in
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: the treehouse and you go in the treehouse and it's
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: like fucking four times.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: To a box fort. Yeah, out of the box and
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: not out of the tree.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: I didn't say out of the tree.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: You said they went into a tree fort, I said, I.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: Did say tree fort. I guess a better analogy would
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: be the Harry Potter tent. You know, like it looks
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: small on the outside, but then you get in there
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: and it's like it's like, how big is this fucking house?
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: And then especially with all of the caverns that are
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: down there.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: I know at one point I was just like, what
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: the where are the fucking underground railroad under he under
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: this house? Like Jesus Christ, what part of France are
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: in it?
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Just they all work, so it all works so well
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: to get They're just giving it this gothic vibe. It's
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: not over stylish, it's not glossy. It feels real, it
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: feels grounded, it doesn't feel so far fetched, you know
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: what I mean.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, and that's why I said it make it
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: really works because you've got characters who aren't like, yes,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: these things could happen. They're like, this is fucking weird,
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: but I'm seeing it. But they're not so in denial
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: that they're like, well, I'm just gonna ignore this. They're like, well,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: let's take a look and see what we find. So
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: you get someone who's willing to go on the adventure,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: but is skeptical enough that you feel like you can
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: connect with them and you want to see what happens. Yeah,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: you're like, all right, I want to go too.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: What is in there? What is the thing they say,
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: in the Santa Claus believing isn't seeing, seeing is believing
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: or whatever. Yeah, it's like that, like once they see it,
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: they're like, well, it's kind of hard to deny what's
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: right in front of my eyes.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: I don't think we're all having the same shared hallucination
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: right now. So you know, like with the sense of
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: feeling grounded, we do get the cosmic elements, we get
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: the horrible disfigured mod Some of them are a little
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: rough around the edges, I won't lie, but others are
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: just pure nightmare fuel. So I really love the one
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: that was towards the end of the movie that you
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: could tell it was just a guy in a suit,
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: you know. I was like, it just adds to the charm.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: It adds to that eighties charm that I really loved.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: But even with some of the weaker effects, I was
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: never taken out by them, because sometimes you were like, wow,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: that was wonky. But I appreciate the craft. I appreciate
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: the ambition and what they were going for with a
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: four million dollar budget, which I gets pretty high for.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, Renimator was only like nine hundred thousand, so
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: this is a pretty big budget for eighty one, but man,
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: they did some fun shit.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'll take a practical effect over CGI any
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: day with this kind of stuff, because like at least
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: you can see the craft in it, right, Like there's
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: today like you're getting speed rushed CGI. We're just like, oh,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: that is going to age like milk. Like I just
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: watched all those Marvel movies and some of the CGI
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: is already looking fonky.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, Multiverse of Madness looked bad in the theater
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: and I was like, ew, like you know the center,
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: I I said, guy, it's an eyeball in the forehead.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Well even for uh fantastic for first steps, A lot
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: of it looked great. Yeah, and they even had a
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: real baby. But every time the baby was CGI, it
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: was you would be hard pressed to miss it. Everyone's like,
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: what in God's name you clearly had a real baby
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: in several shots, where was the real baby?
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Real baby?
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Go?
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: Was he busy? I can't imagine that? So yeah, I would.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: I'll take bad practical effects that don't look good, but
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: someone put the time and effort into them over bad
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: CG any day of the week. And speaking of like
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: you know, the practical effects. The grimy underground aesthetic is
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: also great, totally vibes like as above slow below. Obviously
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: that would release decades later, I know, but it's just
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: not something that you would expect going into this, like, oh,
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: we're gonna go into the caverns and get torches and
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: lanterns and matches and find a fucking laboratory in Nicholas
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: Flamel's ashes also very tied to as above, so below,
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: especially since it involves Nicholas.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: Lamel, the one guy we all know.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: So one wizard, we all know that guy. But it's
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: interesting because they get down there and it's just these
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: seemingly never ending corridors that open into these huge just
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: like halls almost and the pits of disfigured creatures, the
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: wall of remains. It's somehow claustrophobic and vast at the
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: same exact time. Yeah, it's very weird.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Because you're in this like dark space, so it's like
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: this big room, but you can't see everything, so you
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: don't know what's in what's outside of your area of vision,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: like what's behind me, what's end?
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: And then oh, we're into fucking huge laboratory with like
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: a thirty high foot ceiling. Yeah, I see that's shit coming.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: But yeah, so I mean totally gave me Barbarian vibes
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: as well, but just much worse because you only had
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: really the two things down there in Barbarian. This there's
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: a whole bunch of shit.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: I'd rather be in this catacombs than that.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: Well, at least most of those were in pits.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they weren't like that bright and but like
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: what was happening in Barbarian was like, I don't want
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: to deal with the uber imbred hulk woman, uh, who's
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: obsessed with giving me breast milk hard pass, hard pass.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: I'll deal with the weird creatures. I'm sure they can
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: be reasoned with.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: I had something I was gonna say, and then it
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: flew out of my head. Uh. But yeah, so you know,
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: if your if your house does have a secret underground
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: flash tunnel, it's a therapy is not gonna help. You
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: just need a straight jacket. That's what you need. When
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: speaking of straight jackets, let me watch this segue. Let's
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: talk about Charles Ward Terrible. Uh, it's speaking of the
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: straight jacket literally, though I love when he sitting in
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: the straight jacket the whole time talking to the guy
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: at the end, John, and then he just like rips
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: it off so easily. I'm like, what, what? Why did
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: we just do that? To begin with?
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: There's a movie where some does that where they're like
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: sitting in cuffs and talking and then like they kind
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: of stand up because they've undone. The coffs and the
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: cops are like, what the fuck?
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: How did you do that?
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: Why did you do that? Like, uh, yeah, no, you
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: were never gonna keep me here unless I wanted to be.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: I was hanging out.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: It's pretty much Bundy, this dude. I think he was
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: honestly waiting for John at that point to come on,
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: to come on.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: By the way, I really wish and I can see
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: based on the trivia there that I wish they had
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: kept in some more of the comedy for this movie
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: because the you know, the fact, yeah there was some
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: like there were some comedic moments, but the fact that
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: like two minutes before Lonnie went I thought it earlier,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: but I finally said it. It was like, I Lonnie's too
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: uh come a long guy, and he's too funny. He's
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: not He's not gonna make it, man. Lonnie is not
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: making it through this film, and you're like, not Loannie.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Not our our sweet I literally said, I said, our
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: sweet Lottie. No, of course he's gonna make it. Oh
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: he died.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But the vengeance of making it out of there
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: and just be rolling up on Charles Ward or whatever.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: His name is, Charles Dexter Ward and being like, oh,
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: oh yeah, we found your little your little science lab there, bitch,
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: blew it up, blew it up.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: Motherfucker's like, oh my god, that just like the he
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: could have said it any other way, and he decided
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: to say it like the pettiest asshole alive, like, oh
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: your little lab, I blew it up? Oh no, was
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: I not supposed to do that? See, well, my friend's dead,
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: So I guess it sucks, doesn't it.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: All I could think of when he said that, looking
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: at Chris Sarandon's face was uh, Dennis from Sonny and
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: Philly just being like, you have not even begin to
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: see my unflaimable rage, just him going into one of
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: his tirades like yeah.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: There's just like I'm He's like, I'm angry my friend's dead.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: Instead of being angry and yelling I'm gonna be as
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: petty as possible, because I already know how much it's
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: gonna piss him off. Yeah, and that was Hilarus's hysterical Yeah,
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: they like and there there are some of their lines
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: to reactions to the shit they're talking about, just like,
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: this is ridiculous.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: Well in much and uh, uh what am I trying
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: to say? Completely opposite of Reanimated, where that is a
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: horror comedy. There are some, like I said, there are
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: some comedic beats in this that are set up jokes
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: meant to be funny. But everyone in this is playing
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: it totally straight. Yeah, and the movie, the movie itself
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: is being played straight. We as the third party, are
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: not in on some sort of a joke that they're not.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: We're like, no, this shit is wacky as hell. But
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: also I'm very convinced something very sinister is happening.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: It felt like naturally right, It felt natural to the conversation.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: Like the thing is with comedies, you know, when people
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: are saying comedic lines to be funny.
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, they weren't hamming it.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: When you play it straight, but there's still those kinds
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: of lines in there. Uh, it's just so funny because
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: you're not expecting it, right, So it feels really natural,
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: and it just feels like a really hilarious roast in
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: this moment, like where everyone's ted serious. Also, you upset me,
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: so fuck you well, and.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: It also kind of relieves some of that tension. Yeah,
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: I feel like those were There was a few moments
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: that were I think were perfectly placed because every time
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: I just kept tensing up, they give us a little
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: laugh and you're like, oh, okay, everything's fine. No it's not,
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: and then you would get right back into the thick
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: of it. So yeah, there are some really funny moments
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: in the movie, but it's just listed as a straight horror,
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: so they just worked. It did feel very That's exactly
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: what it is. It felt very natural. It felt very
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: h there's no other word for it. Natural. Yeah.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: I felt like these were people like could actually meet
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: and talk to that, like they felt like real people.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: Like even his wife is like, yeah, he's been acting
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: really weird and she's upset. She's not like, oh he's crazy,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: what the hell. No, she wants to save her husband.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: She loves her husband. She doesn't understand the change, and
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: she is doing whatever she needs to and She's not
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: like sitting by the sidelines or going, well, you're crazy
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: so I'm out. She's like, no, I need to find him.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: I need to figure out what the hell's going on?
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Where's my husband?
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, and I love that you mentioned that, because
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: she is introduced right off the bat as just a
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: completely concerned about her husband. You know. I think John
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: says something about, well, do you believe he's doing you know,
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: terrible things like well, he's my husband, Like I want
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: to believe him. But also he's isolating himself in the
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: carriage house.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: So I've been real weird.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but I love that how they bring
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: her in, because you can tell she got she's concerned.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: Even her hand gesture. She was sitting there just like
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: doing this, and I'm like, ah, you're stressing me out.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: She plays being concerned very well, and then as the
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: movie goes on, you just watch her lose her mind.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, going from what's going on to oh, this
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: is what's going on? Jesus Christ. Yeah, is interesting, but
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: I love everyone's arc in this, even Charles. He's crazy,
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: but he's got a great arc. I think John also
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: it's interesting because they don't really give you much backstory
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: on really anybody except for Charles. Yeah, John, you really
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: don't know much about, and he's the focal point of
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: this movie.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Charles was her husband.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Charles is her husband. John is the detective. Yeah, yeah,
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: but it's what I'm saying, like the movie is from
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: John's perspective, and outside of being a detective, outside of
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: having Lonnie as a friend and Holly I believe is
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: his receptionist, you don't really know much about the man.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is likable, His people are loyal to him,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: and he is a clever guy. Who is He's a
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: stand up guy, Like he's doing a work that involves
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: him manipulating situations to get information and playing detective. But
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: he's also committed to the job, which I think is
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: really funny because he started out by telling the wife, well,
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: we'll take a look and then i'll see if I'm
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: gonna take the job, and then never says he actually
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: took the job, just like at the point they're just
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: in the catacombs, just being like, you know what, I
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: don't think I'm gonna take this job.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think I can't accept this job.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: In the middle of the catacombs and just lights the
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: match and heads on out. But they express they tell
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: you who he is by the people around him, and
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: that's like very it's brilliant writing in my opinion. They
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: don't have to give you some long backstory or exposition
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: on who he is. You get the sense of who
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: he is by how he interacts with the people around him. Yeah,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: it's very intelligent writing. But Charles, on the other hand,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's not intelligently intelligently written, but he
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: is a you know, obviously a very polar opposite of
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: James March because as he as James is going down
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: the rabbit hole, Charles is just slowly becoming different. He's
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: not loud, he's not mannic, He's just slowly becoming different
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: over time. And I also love the reveal of doctor
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: Ash being Joseph Kerwin. That was so great because you
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: pointed it out that fuck awful beard. You're like, wow,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: that's a really bad fake beard.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: And I almost get a crack that what if it's
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: just him and a beard, but he walked past himself.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: I'm like, so that doesn't make sense.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: And it was. And it's funny because like the fake
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: beard was intentionally bad.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh god, when you put it when you actually
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: get the the the flashback in the flashback, the whole
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: movie is a flashback with some extra flashbacks in those flashbacks,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: like sixteen walls, right, But when you get the one
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: where you see him putting on the fake beard, I think,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Jesus chuist. This man's never applied to anything in his life.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: Get get some you know, you get there's some of
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: that glue that you got to put on there. He
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: just like puts some tape ont. I'm like, this is terrible, just.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: Kind of pets it on there, like oh no.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that reveal was great. That was really good.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: But I just love watching him change. I think once
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: you saw once he smiled when he was in the
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: mental air like whenever you want to call it, and
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: his teeth were all like bad. I was like, okay,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: he is officially morphed into someone else. At this point,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: he's doing meth now because his teeth were not like that.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: So that's the moment I knew something was absolutely different
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: with him. And of course at that point he is
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: I guess Joseph Kirwin reincarnate.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he uses Charles's body to reinvigorate himself and really
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: satisfying for Charles to get the last punching on that one.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: What do you mean Because John literally brings that solution,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: he jumps it on Charles remain because he's like, hey,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: you know that magic potion you got while I brought
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: the fucking bones of the guy that if you get
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: those bones near you, the flesh is gonna head back
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: to where it's meant to be. And he's like, so
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: go fuck yourself.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: Oh that was such a great place.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: Was so satisfying to be like, yeah, you did you
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: killed this man who brought you back and then just
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: just have that moment where he's like, yeah, I know
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: one person who's ready to beat your ass. Dum potion.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: And that was also such a great setup too, when
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: it's explained that you know, this reinvigoration process requires a
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: body and flesh and a lot of blood, and then
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: once you kind of assimilate into that person, if you
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: get those bones close to you again, they're gonna want
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: to be back on the bones that they were originally on.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: So they set that up, yeah, like earlier on in
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: the film, and then when he gets there and throws
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: the bones out there and then you realize because we've
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: come full circle with this movie, and much like the
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: story in the movie, how it's history repeating itself, the
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: movie itself, you know, kind of loops back around to
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: the beginning, brilliant in itself and you're like, oh, those
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: bones and then it all clicks.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: And you're like that and you're like, yeah, whatever that means.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: And then you're seeing You're like, oh shit, the bone thing,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: the bone thing's happening. Now, He's so.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: Fucked such a great setup and like payoff for that.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: But I just love watching Joseph Kerwin's just absolute descent
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: into madness because his obsession with living forever has become
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: his full personality. Yeah, doesn't care about anything else. We're
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: watching this man slowly erode and become more desensitized to
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: everything as time goes on. But yeah, I think this
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: movie is so so good. I'd say it's it's a
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: little underrated, but it's not gonna be for everyone because
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: of the fact because of the pacing. I think people
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: might I think the biggest issue people might have with
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: this is the pacing because it is slow, but it's
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: not boring. I remember we I just checked the time,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: just to see where we were at, and we were
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: at forty five out of one forty five and I
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: was like, what the fuck are we gonna do for
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: another hour? And then then that's when he went into
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: the psych ward and I was like, okay, we're shifting gears.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: And then then they got into the catacombs and I'm like, okay,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: this is how we felt an hour and forty five minutes?
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: Got it?
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: So uh but yeah, I mean we already kind of
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: talked about the third act a little bit Underground Lab
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: Failed Experiments, Body Horror. So my question is is does
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: the payoff justify the slow burn in your opinion? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because I said I said it. I didn't ask you,
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  Speaker 2: so I said it. I was justified. But how do
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  Speaker 2: you feel?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? No, I think it is because it really your
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  Speaker 1: They keep you in the perspective of the detective the
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  Speaker 1: entire time, which I think is really fun because it's
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  Speaker 1: not like, well, you're waiting for him to figure out
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  Speaker 1: what you already know, because to me, that can be
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  Speaker 1: really frustrating with storytelling is to wait for them to
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  Speaker 1: catch up, like I want to be surprised too, So
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  Speaker 1: to make it feel like this detectives really just trying
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  Speaker 1: to figure out what weird shit her husband's up to,
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  Speaker 1: and then it just gets so much stranger than you
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  Speaker 1: possibly could have thought. And I mean, I wonder what
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  Speaker 1: I would have thought had we not been watching Frankenstein
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  Speaker 1: movies right before this.
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  Speaker 2: We did watch this a lot of.
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  Speaker 1: Just Frankenstein stuff right before this, so I think that's
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  Speaker 1: where my mind was at. But just to be like, well,
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  Speaker 1: what is he doing? What could he be doing? And
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  Speaker 1: to go along with that and see that the answer
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  Speaker 1: is so much bigger and so much stranger than you
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  Speaker 1: could have conceived of. I really always enjoy that story.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, hey, whatever you thought was happening so much
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  Speaker 1: more than that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I always think that's a good payoff because if
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  Speaker 1: you're if you're willing to go for the ride, you're
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  Speaker 1: going to get that big payoff, and it's they're not
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  Speaker 1: giving it to you upfront, so that way you'll stick
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  Speaker 1: it out.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly that they give it to you. It's like whispering
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  Speaker 2: at you the whole time, and then by the third
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  Speaker 2: act is just like screaming yeah, right next to your face.
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  Speaker 2: So I love this movie worked. It worked. I would
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: say it worked better for me this time. But again,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: I don't really remember much. I just remember i'd watched
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: it a few years ago. I'd gave it like a
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: three and a half and I enjoyed it. But talking
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: about it now, I might raise it even more than
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: I did. I just I do think this is an
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  Speaker 2: incredibly well done film, even though, like I said, it
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: is rough around the edges, but it adds to the
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  Speaker 2: charm because you know, nineteen eighty one or eighty one?
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: Where am I here? Jesus, I kept saying eighty one.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: It's not eighty one, it's ninety one. Yeah, So yeah,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: I really enjoy this movie. It seems like you did
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: as well.
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  Speaker 1: It was really fun.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: Is there any other things you wanted to hit? Because
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: that's pretty much all I have, no ill, I think
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: we got it all. So yeah, that is the resurrected
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: from nineteen ninety one. It's not going to beg for
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: your attention. It just lingers, and so you got to
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: you gotta sit with it. It wants to be discovered,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: So just discover it. Get out there. Yeah, get at it,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: even though it's not streaming anywhere.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: Go get it energized.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: Go get it energized. Make adjustments go get it energized. Okay,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna this fucking iPad. Stand is not it's for
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: an iPhone and amusing an iPad. It's not great anyways,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: What are we doing now? Post review stuff? Is that
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: what we do? Now? Who's running the show? Here? Where's
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: my mouse? Cut all this out? The fuck is my mouth?
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: Hello?
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: Here we go? All right, so let's move on to
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: the post review or final cut. Sorry taglines. There's one
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: death used to be the end, Now it's only the beginning.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: Sounds like the Mummy took that one. The Mummy ride him?
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: Death is only the beginning trivia. According to Diane O'Bannon,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: I copied and pasted that Oh. The film was recut
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: against her husband's objections and released without his approval. It
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: was re edited without the humor that he had attempted
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: to put in it. Boo Interstar Releasing, We're planning on
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: giving the film a why theatrical release in the fall
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: of ninety one, but they fell into bankruptcy before this
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: could happen and ended up going straight to video in
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: the spring of nineteen ninety two. Although never released in theaters,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: are on vhs in Australia. The film occasionally appears on
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: late night TV and cable television and Goofs Love Me
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: Some Petty Goofs. In the beginning, when John's narrating about
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: his life in Providence, the helicopter seen as a shadow
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: in the flyover which I told you about, it's actually
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: showing the city of Hartford, Connecticut.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: Jesus.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: And this one's also great because this is some deep
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: nerd shit. When the diary is being read during a flashback,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: the date of Friday, October thirteen, seventeen seventy one is specified.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: October thirteen, seventy seven, seventy one was a Sunday. Someone
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: really went into their Someone really went to a calendar
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: and scrolled the fuck back. Nah, that's a Sunday. Get
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: out to hear nerds. Rated six point two out of
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: ten on IMDb. For our purposes of the Nightmare Index,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: it is a three point one out of five, So
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: three point two out of five on letterbox, forty percent
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: on the Tomato meter, and a fifty five percent audience score.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: What did you give this?
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: And a half?
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: Three and a half that's what I figured, all right,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: I'll stick with a four then, so that gives us
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: a Nightmare Index of three point four five, which means
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: the Resurrected is sitting. Ooh interesting. It beat out a
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: zombie by point zero one. Wow, that is a points
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: are zombies is a zombies is a three point four
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: to four out of five? This is a three four
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: five out of five night and it's underneath the Haunting
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: at a three point six y three, So currently in
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: the ninth spot here on our nightmare Index. Similar movies
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: according to IMDb, we have Necronomicon Book of the Dead,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: The Whisperer in the Darkness beyondre Animator not the first two, Silence,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: the Witness and Which Story. Okay, so many things I've
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: never heard of, severalar movies. According to Letterbox, we have
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: The Autopsy of Jane Doe House on Haunted Hill nineteen
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: ninety nine, Session nine, Dead, Silence, and also Necronomicon Book
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: of the Dead. I know you said you didn't get
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: any funny reviews, and they're.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: We're also wordy. You guys say so many words.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: There weren't many, but I do have a couple here. Okay,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: gonna turn off the brightness and exit the app three
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: stars from Cinema Void. He's been many a time on
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: this show. The necro Antica lure of lovecrafty and cinema
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: is the Eldrich horror of having shitty ancestors. I don't
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: get that, Okay, never mind fucking didn't sh h or
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: the other one. Go oh, I did have it. Oh,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: three and a half stars from thirteen Beers Later, Jesus,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: the things I do for mister Sarrandon Fair Fair. He's
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: looking real good in this movie. And it said there
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: was no sex and nudity, but you almost get a
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: shot of him fully nude when he pops up off
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: of the reinvigoration table. That's what I'm calling it.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: We didn't move fast enough.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you could see either. He would have like
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: some sort of cover. I think that's all I had.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: And then three and a half stars from Ian West. Yes, yes, yes,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: all of the Yes. So people that like this like
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: this movie. They're not rating it super high, but they
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: do like it.
• 1:11:54
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  Speaker 1: Oh wows, yeah, let's do it.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: You didn't want to watch it. Originally I made you
• 1:12:45
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  Speaker 2: really good. I like that movie, so I don't want
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't actually play lesbian for one time in her life?
• 1:12:58
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• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Allison's Williams.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: I think she's not in this one. The actress you're
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: thinking of it's a different actress.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: Is it really?
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: Then they look very similar. Sorry now that now I
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: feel terrible. Thank you for correcting me, though, If you'd
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  Speaker 2: like to check it out, it is on Peacock Premium Plus,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: So there you go. Yep, I'm gonna make you do it. Maybe, Spencer.
• 1:13:22
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