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Ginny Andersen: Labour's Justice Spokesperson on the proposed Firearm Prohibition Order laws · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The Justice Select Committee has recommended several changes to soften
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  Speaker 1: the Firearms Prohibition Order's Legislation Amendment Bill. It says the
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  Speaker 1: order will give police too much power for warrantless searches.
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  Speaker 1: As it stands, someone with an FPO a Firearms Prohibition
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  Speaker 1: Order cannot hold a firearms license, use firearms, or associate
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  Speaker 1: with anybody who has a firearm. And the new bill
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  Speaker 1: would give new warrantless search powers to anyone suspected of
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  Speaker 1: being under a firearms Prohibition order. Ginny Anderson as Labour's
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  Speaker 1: Justice spokesperson, and she's with me now, Jenny, good morning.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning.
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  Speaker 1: Could you give us an example of where you think
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  Speaker 1: this power could go and what's wrong with it?
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  Speaker 2: Right, So, say, just for the sake of it, let's say,
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  Speaker 2: Mike Costkins, your friend had FPO put on by the courts.
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  Speaker 2: You don't know about it, but are you invited around
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  Speaker 2: to your house and he's run at your house either
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  Speaker 2: for dinner or doing something else, so that you don't
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  Speaker 2: even know that he has an f PO on him
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  Speaker 2: and police would be able to search your whole house.
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  Speaker 2: And the way that the bill was originally written that
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  Speaker 2: police just had to suspect that he might have an
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  Speaker 2: FPO on him in order to search your entire house,
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  Speaker 2: or if he was in your car, your whole car.
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  Speaker 2: So it just is quite wide in terms of not
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  Speaker 2: just only the people who it's intending to capture, but
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  Speaker 2: also who they're associating. Was immediately whether or not that
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  Speaker 2: associate necessarily it was in a gain or not.
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  Speaker 1: Right, But how why would the cops be coming to
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  Speaker 1: my house or to my car in the first.
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  Speaker 2: Place, Because if the person was an FPO on them
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  Speaker 2: is in your house, then that can be searched too.
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  Speaker 1: But how do they know he's in my MIC's in
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  Speaker 1: my house? Do you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Like, it's surely they're probably blotting outside.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, when you get into scenarios, that's hard. But
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  Speaker 2: if they've been more uttering someone, all they have to
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  Speaker 2: do is is we've changed it now that you used
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  Speaker 2: to just bespect that he had an FPO on them,
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  Speaker 2: and they're checking on the conditions. So when you have
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  Speaker 2: one of these on you, it enables police to continually
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  Speaker 2: check that the conditions of the SEO are being complied
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  Speaker 2: with right right, and they can do that at any time,
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  Speaker 2: like a bail check, they can come around and check that.
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  Speaker 1: Right, And if I have so Mike's got an FPO,
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  Speaker 1: if I have a firearm illegally a firearm in my house,
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  Speaker 1: he can be arrested for just being in the same house.
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  Speaker 2: Right, that's absolutely correct. And you might not know, you
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  Speaker 2: might have stored a firearm for someone else. And if
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  Speaker 2: he's anywhere there, that's exactly right. He would be arrested
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  Speaker 2: for a period of time if he was in and
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  Speaker 2: around firearms. That does depend on the conditions of the SEO.
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  Speaker 2: These are put on by the courts, and so the
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  Speaker 2: judge at the time can put on special conditions that
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  Speaker 2: might be different from time to time. So we thought
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  Speaker 2: that that was a much and it's been changed to
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  Speaker 2: the police has to believe that there is an SPO
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  Speaker 2: on this person in order to conduct those searchers. But
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  Speaker 2: we still think that we're the balance about right. The
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  Speaker 2: previous spos about who she has been done, about a
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  Speaker 2: third of those are gang members. We also had that
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  Speaker 2: Criminal Activity Intervention Bill which for a period of fourteen
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  Speaker 2: days if there was tensions between gangs, then police had
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  Speaker 2: the ability to go and search in a whole range
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  Speaker 2: of different areas while those into gang tensions. Both those
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  Speaker 2: piece of legislation we felt was working really well, and
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  Speaker 2: this is sort of another thing. Design's a lot tough,
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  Speaker 2: but it's not quite clear what is the problem it
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  Speaker 2: is actually fixing.
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  Speaker 1: All right. That's Jenny Anderson, Labour's Justice spokesperson. The Justice
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  Speaker 1: Select Committee has recommended to send several changes to that
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  Speaker 1: bill to soften it up. For more from News Talks'
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