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Turnbuckles and stogies. honest day of continuing.
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Everything comes in life. A bit of blame, like a broken
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dream, and we live. Yo-yo, yo, what up everybody?
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It is us. It's turnbuckles and stogies.
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It's me, the Vanilla Gorilla. That's the big dog.
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We got the OG on the other side, OG.
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What is going on, bro? How are you?
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What's up, boy? What's going on, player?
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What's up dog Chillin? How you doing?
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Where you where? Where are you at right now?
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That's what I'm going to ask. I want to ask where you at right
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now? Shout out.
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Listen, we're going to do a shout out right now to all the
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veterans. I know Yesterday was veteran's
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day, so shout out to my dad, my uncle, my cousin, my brother,
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everybody shout out to the OG cigar tender who's a veteran,
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yo. We want to give shout outs to
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everybody that has served. That will serve and everything
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else yo shout out to OG sugar tender.
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What you what you smoking, bro? What's what you got?
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What you got lit up over there smoking?
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Oh, what do I have? I got my BX3 lit up.
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Oh, there you go. There you go.
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I'm getting ready to to light up the Cle Hobano 6 by 60.
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So OG, where are you sitting right now?
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Because I know that ain't the regular lounge, I.
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See my OG Studios. It's an exclusive studio.
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That's your man cave. So, ladies and gentlemen, we
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here live. We are on Facebook.
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Shout out to Don Bocici, network, shout out to my man Don
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Bochinche, he'll be on here, but shout out to him.
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Well, see, I figured out I could click.
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Comments, everybody. So I'm figuring things out on
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the fly. Look at that.
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Look at that. See, I'm figuring out how to do
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things. Look at that.
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Things that happen when you press buttons.
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But no, in all seriousness, you know.
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Happy veteran's day to everybody.
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I know we're a little late. We usually run a day behind.
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We apologize. But thank you for everything you
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guys do. You know, without you guys we
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wouldn't be able to sit here and do our podcast and smoke cigars
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with you guys and enjoy it and just be able to do what we do
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and and you know, just enjoy life.
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Miss Swaggin, Check us out on Facebook.
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Miss Swaggin Turn Buckles and Stogies, check us out.
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Coop. What up, Coop?
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Good morning, bro. What are you?
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Good morning, brother. What are you smoking?
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What are you smoking? Coop is working he on the clock.
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I know Coop is on the. Clock, I know, Bernie said.
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He's smoking. Coop is on the.
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Clock. Let me let me guess, Bernie, I'm
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going to take a wild guess. You're smoking a a fuerte libre
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sun country just because I'm good at what I do.
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Oh, time out, time out. So.
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So I want to give a shout out to Maddie Rocks.
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Go fuck yourself, Maddie. Hey, hey, you, you.
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And hey, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
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Slow. Down you NN you N Lloyd, shout
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out to Lloyd. I love both.
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Y'all shout out to Lloyd. But yo, hello, bitches.
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Oh, Coop said. He's on the clock.
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That sucks. I apologize, bro, but I I got
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it. Listen, I got a 6 by 60 here,
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right? Right, Coop, I got a six by
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sixty since we're on that topic. And there's a nice little 7 by
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70 for you. That's for later though, right
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up your alley. Nice big ring gauges.
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That's what she said. So so now now let me let me ask
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you this OG because this has been a topic, a running topic
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for the past couple of. Episodes, you know and and not
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only that, a running topic I've been discussing with people is
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the type of cut that you like to use on your cigar.
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Now for me personally, I will say that it depends on my mood.
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You know, like right now I have AI.
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Did AV cut? I'm a little partialer to the V
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cut, but I also love my straight cut.
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I I know, I know his answer. His answer is always a straight
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cut. He doesn't do a lot of V cuts.
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I like V cuts. They suck.
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So does punches. Thank you very much.
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So now I'm going to turn it over to you.
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What? What's yours?
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I'm pretty much AV cut guy, like a punch every now and then.
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Guillotine. I don't know.
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Just whatever I have on me. If I don't forget something, I
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use whatever I got. But I don't know, I got my
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select draw cutter. I like that.
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That keeps it to back out of your mouth, which is really
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nice. Shout out to mark with select
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draw. Yeah.
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So in two weeks, in two weeks, we're going to have, we're going
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to have on, we're going to have Keith on in two weeks and then
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we're going to have, I'm trying to get Gene Snitsky on, but he's
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a hard, he's a hard sell. So I'm going to try to get Lloyd
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on from yo. So I'm going to try to get, I'm
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going to try to get Lloyd on from Alpha while Simone School
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wrestling. So we're going to have and and
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shout out to Maddie Rocks, My man, my brother love that
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motherfucker. Yeah, Bernie said.
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Bernie said Gene's very hard to get.
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He is very hard to get. We're working on it.
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We're working on it, Bernie. You don't realize that.
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I got the juice. I got the juice, Bernie.
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Come on, dawg. We going to hit.
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We're going to. You know what?
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Matter of fact, OG So set your schedule for two weeks.
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No, don't set it for two weeks because we have Keith.
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We're going to set up another day with Gene.
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We're going to talk to Gene. We're going to see what day is
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good for him because we want him on this podcast because we know
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you guys are going to enjoy it, but it's not my.
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Fault back-to-back to earlier, Bernie said.
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That's almost the usual is the sun country, but the smoke is
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something special. With a special blend.
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Nice. It's not my.
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Fault. Very nice, yo.
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Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube.
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So, so everybody watching what is what is your what is your
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favorite cut on a cigar? Since this has been a running
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since, this has been a running topic on quite a bit of podcasts
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and. Lives that I've been on.
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What was the question? You got to follow us on
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Facebook, bro. We're on Facebook.
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Check this out. Go on Facebook and follow.
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So anyway, so there has. What was I going to say?
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I apologize guys, I lost my train of thought.
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Joey, what do you do? So what?
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What? That's what I was going to ask.
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So, so Bernie, Bernie said he's an old school guy.
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He's a he's a punch guy, Coop said.
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He's AV cutter a punch. You know I I'm personally, I
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don't mind a punch once in a while.
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But it's not something that I go out of out of my way to use but
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like if I have. If I have a lighter that has a
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punch and I forget a cutter, I can't find my cutter.
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I'll I'll use the punch once in a while.
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I'm not a big fan of it. I don't know.
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It's just there's something about it I I can't.
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I can't figure out what it is. There's just something about it.
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I'm not a I'm not a fan of not saying it's bad.
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Everybody's got their own personal preferences.
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Straight cut V cut, punch, crown cut, diagonal cut, whatever you
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want to call it. Some people decapitate the
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entire cigar. I've seen it.
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It's actually hilarious to watch because at that point they're
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just smoking leaf there. There's no, there's no substance
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to that cigar at that point. It just starts unraveling and
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cracking. I know OG has seen it.
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I've seen it. Whether somebody scalps the
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entire cigar and it looks just like a A.
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It looks just it looks literally just flat.
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It just looks flat. It's actually hilarious.
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But those are people that don't smoke too often or that are just
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learning to smoke, and that's where guys like us watch us on
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here. The two guys, the two guys that
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I know that are watching, that have been commenting back and
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forth with us, That's our turn to teach them how to cut a cigar
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so that they don't keep decapitating their their their
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cigars and they get to enjoy their cigars.
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So, so let's talk about wrestling.
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Let's talk about wrestling. So, so yesterday was George
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State Barn Smoker. We couldn't make it because Joey
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had to work. So shout out to Lloyd, Shout out
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to Matty Box, my man, my brothers.
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So what do you think of George State stuff OG?
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Hey, listen. Oh, my mic's on great.
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Yeah, No, I love Drew Estate, man.
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They're fantastic. I will say that you're you were
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echoing a little bit, so that that may have been why it was
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muted or I don't know if it muted itself, but there was a
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tad bit of echo, just a just a little bit.
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Not not much, but it's a fucking headset, bro.
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I know, I know, you love Drew Estate, probably just as much as
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I do, and a lot of people are going to laugh when I tell them.
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But I'm a when it comes to Drew Estate, I'm a I'm a little bit
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of a a legal bravado whore. Because I like it.
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You're a whore. What?
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He said. I'm a whore.
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You're 10 dollars, $10.00 for a blowjob.
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Just saying. Sky really throws off my train
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of thought here. Sky's really throwing off my
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train of thought. I don't know how to deal with
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him this early. Cheers.
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Cheers. There's there's been a lot
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that's went on in. I I mean, Speaking of Dru
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Estate, since we're on the cigar topic, they just quietly
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released another brand, another line under the Dru Estate brand.
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What was that? They just released the Chateau
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Royale, which was one of their original blends and brands that
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they kind of faded away from. But it was so sought after that
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JD decided to. Re release the brand for mass
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production, Again, if it's not mass production, it's a very
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limited quantity production at a time.
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But from what I understand it's very, it was very sought after.
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You know, I had heard rumors about it.
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I had heard it. I had never gotten my hands on
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it. So now that it's out, I think
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I'm going to go try to find it and smoke it because I'm, I'm
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interested to try it and see what it's all about.
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It's a it's a Connecticut. But from what I've I've read and
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what I've heard, it's a nice creamy Connecticut with
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Nicaraguan binder and filler. So it's got that pepper, it's
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got that, it's got that little bit of kick, it's got some some
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probably lightest light Blondie or espresso roast coffee notes,
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you know, the the, the little stuff like that.
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Are you having fun there? So shout out to my
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brother-in-law. Look look.
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Look, look, look. That's me.
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That's me. So now anybody, anybody in the
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the comments or OG want to touch on anything cigar related,
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anything good he smoked lately, anything new, anything
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different, wrestling, whatever. We're going to get to that.
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We're going to get to that. Whatever it's the it's the
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Chateau Royale. Bernie, I will, I'll send you a
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a picture of what it looks like. It just came out I think the
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other day or last week or something like that.
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It was quietly released. I didn't know nothing about it
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and and Bernie can tell you I'm a I'm a very big Dru of State
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guy. And the fact that I didn't know
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about it, you know, and I I kind of follow what they release is
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saying that that's how quiet it was because I didn't see
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anything posted about it. So it should be, it should be
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very, very interesting to see what what comes of that and if
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they make it in the Hibano and the Maduro or if they just keep
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it like it used to be, which from what I understand was just
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a strict Connecticut cigar. From top to bottom, top one, top
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to bottom. So we'll see top to bottom.
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I'm really enjoying this. It's been a long time since I
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had one of these and what? Are you smoking the Cle Hibano?
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You're welcome. The Cle Hibano?
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You're welcome. So Monday.
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Or Tuesday I got a very nice five pack coming in that I'm
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going to let sit and maybe I'll maybe I'll give a review on it
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and and post a video to our page for you guys to see what I'm
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smoking. We'll see.
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I haven't decided yet. I haven't decided what I'm going
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to do with that yet. I might just keep it a secret
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secret. I might just keep it a secret.
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I don't understand. OG knows what 5 pack I have
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coming. I don't understand because I I
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told him. I told him what I got coming.
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Now. Now OG, did you order that five
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pack yet, or no? No.
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I because the the discount code that I have is good for the
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whole month, I'll get there. I'm.
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I'll get him. No, no, no, I'm I'm saying I'll,
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I'll send it to you this way you have it so that you can you can
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get the. The code, But from what I heard
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from everybody that smoked it, it's absolutely phenomenal.
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I've heard it's absolutely tremendous.
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Nice. So I'm I'm very curious to to
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try it. They released the Maduro first
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and then they said in the beginning of next year they're
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going to release the Hibano and the Connecticut.
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So that there's a a, a different a strength for everybody.
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I'm going to work and see if I can maybe get them on here to
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jump on on a Sunday morning with us and and no, not not Cody's
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sticks. Bernie Cody 's sticks.
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No, I I haven't bought Cody's sticks yet.
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I'm going to This is somebody else's sticks.
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Cody got his own sticks. No, not Cody Rhodes.
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Oh, well, we, we appreciate good Rhodes sticks, but, you know,
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somebody got to help us out. His name is Bernie.
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He got to help us out with the sticks.
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But as I was saying, I'm, I'm going to see if I can talk to
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the the two guys that released this cigar and I'm going to see
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if we can get them to jump on with us on a Sunday morning.
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And and you know, we'll smoke it together and we'll talk about it
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and and you guys can ask them questions and you know they can
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kind of talk to you guys about what it's about.
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I've, I've heard what it's about, but there's some people
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in here that I'm I'm sure haven't heard about it.
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It's called the cigar itself is called the Oblata and it's
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released in a Maduro. San Andreas Maduro.
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It's a Toro, size 6 by 52 and it's all Nicaraguan binder and
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filler. So I'm very, I'm, I'm very
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excited to try it. I've been seeing a lot of my my
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people smoke it and it wasn't out yet.
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I didn't have any. So I placed the order the other
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day. They should be here.
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Actually, what's today, Sunday? They're in Newburgh, so they
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should probably be here tomorrow morning.
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They'll be here tomorrow. They'll be here tomorrow.
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I'll post it up. I'll post up my mail call.
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You guys can see what I got. What?
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What are you drinking, OG? You drinking coffee?
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Or you drinking some extra special stuff.
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Nope. Coffee.
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That's what I'm drinking. Yeah, shout out to.
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Coffee and guess? Guess what?
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Guess what? Guess what?
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Creamer. I bought eat a bag of Dicks.
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I bought. I bought my Cinnamon my Cinnabon
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Creamer. Oh, nice.
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I bought the Cinnabon Creamer for like 5 bucks in Dollar
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General because I was craving that.
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I was craving that. But now the problem is, I'm all
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out of fucking coffee. So if anybody watching has any
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coffee brands that want to send us coffee, by all means, we're
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willing to accept coffee as well.
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Just just putting that out there, just putting that out
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there. Just saying.
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Just saying. I know OG's a coffee guy.
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I I don't consider myself a coffee connoisseur, but I I like
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a I like a good coffee every, a good gourmet coffee once in a
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while, you know, Yeah. Buddy.
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Yeah, buddy. So let's talk about wrestling.
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Yeah, let's get into that. Now.
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There's there's been a lot that's gone on this past week.
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As always, CM Punk is doing his his trolling routine of trolling
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the the entire world of where he's going to go next if he's
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going to go anywhere again. War Games was also just
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announced for Survivor Series and it's Cody Rhodes, Jay USO,
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Sami Zayn and one other person. I can't remember it off the top
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of my head against the the Judgement Day.
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I think that should be. I think that should be an
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interesting match. I think that'll be a very
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interesting match and an interesting concept to see where
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they go with that because I think I think pretty soon Cody
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is going to get his world title that he so rightfully deserves.
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In my opinion, Sammy is just another one who is just who just
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knows how to get himself over. Jay is doing what he needs to be
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doing on his own I think. I think what they did by making
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him leave was great because it's it's showing you that he can, he
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can go on his own. He doesn't need the help of
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anybody to to do this. So I mean it'll be it'll be
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interesting to see where they go out of this storyline in my
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opinion. I think it's going to be
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interesting to see where they go with this after because the
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question next is do they put, do they throw maybe the bloodline
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in there but then there is no bloodline.
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That's the thing you can't do anything with the bloodline
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against anybody because it's just Roman J and Solo they don't
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have the the manpower like they did before.
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So it'll be it'll be interesting to see what what goes on and and
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you know how they how they go about doing this.
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Very curious. So what do you got to say, OG?
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Hey, I think, you know, I I think Roman still needs the
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people around him. I think Roman is overrated and
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he can't do anything on his own. He needs a cast of characters.
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In my opinion, Roman Reigns is not the greatest champion ever.
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I'm not going to say he's the greatest, but.
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He can't do anything on his own. He's always got to have a cast.
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He's got to have Paul Heyman there.
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That's what makes Roman Reigns look good.
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Is the Bloodline Makes Roman Reigns look good?
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Well, I mean. He's overrated in my opinion.
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He can't win anything he hasn't won.
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I think he's won legitimately 2 matches, clean and everything
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else. He's needed help, but that's and
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I and that's part of, and I think to me that's part of what
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a faction's supposed to do well. I mean, Triple H didn't need
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that. Triple H didn't need that
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Evolution. Was Triple H won clean?
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Yes. Yes, he did have his crony jump
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in from time to time. But Triple H was clean.
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Ric Flair, he he won a he won a ton of his his championships
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clean. He didn't need any help.
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Well, but also look at the. Look at the look at the
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difference in those. You know, those stables are
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fact. Well, no, I'm not going to call
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them facts. I'm going to call them stables
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because that's what they used to be called.
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You know, everybody in there could hold their own weight.
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Now everybody in the bloodline is interfering more because of
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the fact that they don't have the numbers game anymore.
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See, when they had the numbers game, it was very easy to have
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Roman win a match clean because there was three other guys on
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the outside. But but.
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At the same time I. Personally, well, I'm unmute
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again, so I don't know. No, you're unmuted.
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I I can hear you. But what I was what I was saying
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was, you know, I I like there are some guys that are just
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meant for stables or factions and stuff like that.
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I think personally Roman is one of those guys because he does,
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he does tend to elevate everybody else around him.
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Which he does, I I see. I think he does.
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Because you know the. I thought Seth Rollins.
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I thought Seth Rollins carried the shield.
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See. I didn't see that.
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See, Roman needed a shield. Roman needed a shield.
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Roman needs some bloodline. Roman needs Paul Heyman.
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I mean, you look at Brock Lesnar, he doesn't need Paul
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Heyman. You could say that.
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Paul Heyman Brock Never had anyone interfere in his matches?
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No. But you could say he needs he
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doesn't. He doesn't need Paul Heyman now.
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When Brock, he only came in. In the sense of Paul Heyman,
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what I'm saying is, and it what is what I'm saying in the sense
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of Paul Heyman, is that Paul didn't interfere with Brock's
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matches. No, Brock won those matches
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because Brock was a legitimate. Thank you, in my opinion.
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Listen, I've said that from day one, Brock was when they build
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Brock as the next best, the the next biggest thing.
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Brock was the next biggest thing.
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Because Brock did things that nobody his fucking size should
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have been doing. He should have been doing, but
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what I'm saying is he shouldn't have been doing shooting star
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presses. He should have been doing half
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the shit he was doing, but he could also wrestle 2025 minutes
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with no up with no problem. Right, but what I'm saying is in
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the sense of the. Image of being a champion.
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Roman Reigns needs somebody to participate in his every single
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one of his matches. Brock Lesnar did not.
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Now Brock needed nobody. Brock even defended his title
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against people jumping into his match.
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Right. Roman, on the other hand, it to
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me, and this is just me. That interference makes Roman
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look weak and from day one WWE has had it in their head to make
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Roman reign where where where he is now.
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He needs that, right? That's why I don't think Roman
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is a complete champion. Roman needs help to be a
28:54
champion. Brock did not need help to be a
28:57
champion to touch on what we were talking about before from
29:01
Coop, he said. I think they'll be more added to
29:04
the war game to that war games match.
29:06
Roman used the bloodline the way he did because their family
29:10
there showing family dominance in the industry which he is,
29:15
right. So what what they're trying to
29:17
do is make Roman the the one and only dominate.
29:23
They're they're trying to make Roman be the most dominant
29:25
Samoan they've had. That's what that is there and
29:29
and I know what he's saying, I understand what you're saying,
29:32
but I also understand it from his point of view as well, is
29:35
they're trying to show you that there's a family lineage and
29:42
that Roman is the greatest and longest reigning world champion
29:47
that that family has had, making him the head of the table.
29:51
I don't disagree with that and I'm not discrediting what Coop
29:54
is saying, but I think Coop. I think Coop.
29:56
I I think I I think Coop very eloquently put that out there
30:00
and I understand where he's coming from.
30:02
I think they're. I'm not relaying what I'm saying
30:05
about the perception of a champion.
30:07
To me, Roman Reigns is not on the same level as guys like The
30:15
Rock like Stone Cold Steve Austin, especially Stone Cold,
30:20
Stone Cold. Was another one that needed
30:22
nobody to assist him in defending his championship
30:26
right. And and you know, and I'm
30:28
looking at it from the aspect of his well, I think for me Roman
30:33
is one of the more complete champions we've had in a while
30:36
because because of you have to look at it as the errors as
30:40
well, you know. So like, I'm looking at it from
30:43
that aspect of as far as the Attitude Era went, Austin was
30:51
the top heel champion because you could do whatever you
30:55
wanted. So you know what?
30:57
I'm trying to say if that, yeah. Yeah, I know, I know.
31:00
I know what you're trying to say.
31:01
What like to kind of go back to what Coop was saying about a
31:04
family lineage. I get that.
31:06
But you're throwing out names like Evolution and DX.
31:10
They weren't family lineages. You got to go back to the Von
31:13
Ericks, OK? You want to compare the Samoan
31:15
versus the Von Ericks? Absolutely.
31:17
Samoans blow him away. Absolutely.
31:20
You know, if you want to compare them to the hearts, Absolutely.
31:25
I. Mean that's a that's a family
31:27
limited you know you want to compare them to Randy Orton and
31:30
Bob Orton. Absolutely, I think and I.
31:33
You know, I agree with that. I think the reason he was
31:36
throwing those names out is because we were talking about,
31:39
you know, how you were saying your Triple H was winning clean,
31:43
Ric Flair won clean. I I think that's where he was
31:46
bringing up the DX, the evolution, the shield, as far as
31:52
they were stables, but they weren't a a family lineage
31:57
faction. So let's go back to Von Erichs.
32:00
So so. Someone hold on.
32:04
Someone get coupe code to get in here.
32:06
Let's bring coupe on HG. Oh, he's at work still.
32:11
All right. Well, listen, I, Coop, you got
32:14
to come on sometime. This is a a fantastic
32:17
conversation. I listen, I'm not belittling
32:21
anything that anybody on here is saying.
32:23
I'm not saying I'm right. I'm not saying you're wrong.
32:26
I'm not saying you're right. I'm not saying I'm wrong.
32:28
This is a fantastic discussion. I think I'm just not.
32:33
I I I think I got tunnel vision right now on my image of what?
32:38
The greatest champion is. And there's clearly, I mean,
32:46
everybody's coming from different angles.
32:47
I think on the same topic. I just, in my opinion, Roman
32:52
Reigns is overrated, that's all. That's all I'm saying.
32:56
Roman should just go to Hollywood, be done with it, go
32:59
to Hollywood. Let's get you know what, let's
33:01
settle this. Let's get the rock in the ring
33:03
with Roman Reigns. Well, and let's just settle
33:06
this, he said. And and Coop actually just said
33:10
what you were, what you just said.
33:12
There you go, there's your, there's your comment, OG, he
33:16
said. Oh, don't get me wrong, I don't
33:18
think Roman is the goat By far so.
33:20
He I think it's hard to come up with goats especially it's, in
33:24
my opinion, it's hard to come up with a goat in wrestling.
33:28
And it goes back to what Joey said, you know, Joey was saying
33:31
it's a generational thing. So how do you compare
33:34
generations? And champions over time.
33:44
I hear what you're saying. Cool.
33:45
I totally get what you're saying.
33:47
Again, it's just I I when I I'm a literal guy.
33:51
So when you say who is, you know, the champion of all
33:55
champions in my mind. Roman Reigns, yes, is in that
33:58
conversation. But no, I don't think he is on
34:02
the Mount Rushmore in my mind. He's not in my Mount Rushmore of
34:07
greatest champions of all time, right?
34:10
So now what? Were you saying now what?
34:13
What were you What were you saying before?
34:16
So Devon Ericks, you need to turn towards the camera so we
34:19
can hear you. Devon Ericks, So let's talk
34:22
about the. Devon Ericks.
34:24
So I started my wrestling career in Dallas, TX.
34:28
OK, Devon Ericks are the, the, the.
34:35
The lineages of professional wrestling, them guys have been
34:42
in professional wrestling for over 60 years.
34:45
Shout out to Lloyd. Shout out to all of them.
34:49
I'm going to book for Lloyd. Shout out if you want to book
34:52
Lloyd. Hit me up.
34:55
You can book Lloyd if you want, so shout out to them.
34:59
So shout out to Samoans. So listen.
35:02
Here's the deal. So everybody says that Roman
35:08
Reigns is the goat. Roman Reigns is not the fucking
35:13
goat. And I will tell him to his face
35:16
he's not the goat. You are not the goat, Roman.
35:21
Roman, go fuck yourself, because you are not the goat.
35:27
You are not the guy that did all of this Rakishi.
35:32
And everybody else under him. Listen, Roman Reigns, you are
35:37
not the goat of professional wrestling today.
35:41
I am. I am.
35:42
You're not either. I am.
35:44
I'm the. Fuck.
35:44
Listen, listen. There's no doubt that, you know,
35:47
the Samoas over the years have had a great influence in
35:50
wrestling. I mean you go, you go back, they
35:55
they run wrestling at this point.
35:57
Now as far as I think in my opinion, the most family members
36:02
involved in the business because you have, you have Lance, you
36:09
have Lloyd, you have Roman, you have Rock, You have rikishi, you
36:17
have the Usos, you have Ava, you have I.
36:24
Think they're. They're definitely, you know,
36:27
but I'm looking at it as as far as like, strong family lineage.
36:31
Still, till this day it is the Samoans, no matter how you look
36:34
at it. Oh yeah, I I again I'm not you
36:38
saying opposite of you I'm agreeing with you that right now
36:42
in wrestling they are definitely monopolizing the industry in the
36:46
sense of talent that they have within professional wrestling
36:50
you know But my I guess what I was trying to say, you got to
36:54
you can go all the way back to. You know guys like Snuka and
37:00
there's another guy in AI. Can't think of his name I Chief
37:03
Peter Myvia. Yeah, like, you know, way back
37:07
like The Rock Father and you know what I mean?
37:09
Like those guys are the ones that made wrestling even.
37:14
They took physicality to a whole new level back in the 70s.
37:19
So you know, they, they, they just elevated that.
37:23
So here's the scoop a lot of people say is.
37:26
Wrestling real or fake. So I'm going to tell you right
37:30
now so you have you have you have that part where it's real
37:39
that I don't like certain people and then you have that part
37:43
where it's fake where like hey listen well it's not it's not
37:46
technically fake correct. It's not fake correct.
37:50
You're you're not addressing it the right way.
37:53
What he what he's saying is go ahead, we know who's winning
37:58
whatever match it is when we walk in all.
38:01
Right. But everything that goes on in
38:06
the ring is 100% real. From the from the man hours,
38:13
from the training hours that everybody puts in to the time it
38:18
takes to be able to make that match look as good as it does.
38:23
But on that note, we're going to ring the bell.
38:28
We're going to go to commercial and we're going to come back and
38:37
we're going to touch on some other fun topics.
38:41
So I'm going to turn it over to our producer to play you guys a
38:46
little bit of a commercial and give us a few minutes to regroup
38:51
and come back. But until then, we have a
38:59
comment that we're going to use and we're going to talk about
39:02
that because I think he's right, he says.
39:07
In my opinion, wrestling has gone back to big guys doing
39:09
quote superhuman things. Wrestling needs more Bret
39:13
Hart's, Mr. Perfect, Dean Milenko's, But that's a topic
39:15
for another day. You're absolutely right, it is.
39:18
And I think in my opinion, you know, the closest we've had to
39:21
let's go to. Commercial The closest we've had
39:26
to a Mr. Perfect and a Shawn Michaels is Dolph Ziggler in my
39:37
opinion. As far as the Stelling and just
39:41
the overall ability to make people look good.
39:45
And and you know before we break real quick, the only thing I
39:48
want to touch on when we get back is IA 1000% agree with
39:53
Rich. Absolutely.
39:54
But I also think they need to get back to learning how to Mike
39:59
and how to act and because I think this young younger
40:04
generation doesn't know how to present a story and how to and
40:10
act and and we were in in in that in defense of my statement.
40:15
Or in opposite Devil's advocate of my statement, I also think
40:20
that the industry is now focusing more on the physicality
40:27
and the wrestling and they've gotten away from all of that.
40:34
You know, we were spoiled with with with with DX in that
40:39
generation and they knew how to present a story and you know now
40:45
they don't know how to present a story and matter of fact,
40:48
storylines last a week or two now and that's it.
40:50
And they're on to something else.
40:52
Yeah, and and I'm the same way. Like, I agree we were spoiled,
40:56
you know, from the Attitude Era, in my opinion, all the way up
41:01
through the Rufus Aggression Era.
41:04
And early into the PG era and that was about, that was about
41:09
it, you know, then it became you had the one off storylines with
41:14
DX that lasted in 3-4 months, which was great.
41:19
The Rock would pop in from time to time and do his thing.
41:23
Jericho would pop in every three to four years for a six month
41:27
run. You know, so it that's that's
41:31
just me. But.
41:35
So we have What's What's up? Alex?
41:38
What are you? What are you smoking, bro?
41:39
I know, I know you're smoking. I seen you.
41:42
Send the picture. What are you?
41:43
What are you smoking, bro? Talk to us.
41:44
Talk to us. Tell us what you're smoking.
41:49
But I will say I'm. I'm thoroughly enjoying this.
41:54
Cle Hibano 6 by 60 with the V cut.
42:04
How you enjoying that BX3 over there, OG?
42:06
I'm burning my fingertips on this one.
42:10
I really like it. Really like it?
42:16
That is absolutely one of my now go to CA OS that I can find.
42:22
There's just something about it that I love.
42:25
So he said. He's smoking a Romeo and Juliet
42:28
vintage with some coffee. That's what I'm talking about,
42:35
Alex. That's class.
42:36
I keep going old school. That's what I'm talking about.
42:39
That's a that's. A nice good way to start your
42:41
morning. But on that note, stay right
42:46
here, stay tapped in with us. We're going to kick it over to
42:50
our commercial. We're going to ring that bell.
42:53
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at MBR Radio. What is up?
44:06
We are back. It's me.
44:08
It's your boy, the Vanilla Gorilla.
44:11
I'm still smoking my Cle Habano 6 by 60.
44:15
I'm I'm feeling today. I'm feeling like I'm in a a big
44:18
ring gauge smoking mood. The OG is having a little bit of
44:22
technical difficulties. He's getting that fixed.
44:24
But don't worry, you have me. I'm the I'm the favorite person
44:28
of this whole podcast. Anyway I can run this all by
44:32
myself? They don't need to be here.
44:41
Make sure you save that. You got to save them.
44:44
Save at least one. So anyway, this is this is what
44:53
I'm starting the day with. I haven't decided if I'm going
45:00
to end my day. With this 7 by 70 Asylum, 13
45:06
Oblongata, I haven't figured that out yet.
45:09
I'm really looking forward to getting my 5 pack of the oblatas
45:16
tomorrow from Aragon Factory. I'm looking so forward to
45:22
smoking those. Those might not even make it
45:25
into the humidor. I would just be honest.
45:28
I'm probably going to smoke one tomorrow when it comes in
45:31
because. I don't think I can hold out
45:33
long enough to let them sit for a few days.
45:37
Shout out to King Chi. I knew humor yesterday.
45:42
Shout out to King Chi. But yeah, shout out to to King
45:46
Chi to Kernup for for sending us humidors.
45:50
I know OG got a lighter from Kernup as well.
45:55
I know he got one. I got one.
45:58
I actually got the the same set as.
46:01
As OG I got the same set as as as him.
46:08
See. Look, look.
46:09
OG look. I'm telling you, look.
46:11
What? Look what Alex said.
46:13
Wait till you tasted Joey. The old Blata is great, see.
46:18
Maybe one day. I'm going to have to try that.
46:21
I'm looking forward to it. I bro, I can't wait to try that
46:25
tomorrow. But as you can see I got the I
46:27
got the same set as OGI had my pick.
46:31
And they told me I could get this one or I could get the
46:32
other one. But I decided to get this one
46:35
because I want to make sure that you know, me and him don't have
46:38
the same lighter so we don't get mixed up.
46:42
I like the So I'm going to I'm going to say that the V cut is
46:45
nice. I haven't used it yet.
46:51
The the carbon fiber printing is absolutely amazing.
46:56
The only thing I wish it was OG and I'm.
46:58
I think you can attest to this too.
46:59
I wish it was metal. I wish it was a heavier metal
47:06
because this this plastic is, it's OK, but it's not.
47:11
It's not doing it for me, if that makes any.
47:12
Sense next week is our Thanksgiving edition.
47:19
We're doing our Thanksgiving edition next week, so we're
47:22
going to probably be up in Parkland tobacconist.
47:26
I haven't decided yet what I'm doing, but we're probably going
47:29
to be in Parkland Tobacconist next week, so make sure you
47:33
check this out at Parkland Tobacconist.
47:37
We're going to be there myself, Boss Dog AKA Big Dog, my Man,
47:44
the Vanilla Gorilla, and the OG Cigar tender.
47:47
So we're going to be up there. We're going to be chilling,
47:50
smoking and drinking. Shout out to the $80.00 room.
47:55
Shout out to the 80 odd room where you can smoke and drink.
47:59
Have a good day. Thank you very.
48:00
Much. Maybe.
48:01
Maybe if we get that room, maybe we'll just say fuck it and we'll
48:06
film the podcast there. I think that's not a bad idea
48:10
would be. What do you think?
48:12
Hey, whatever you guys want to do.
48:14
You know, I I was thinking about it.
48:15
The lounge is nice and you know that and I know that.
48:18
But if we do it in the, if we do it in that room.
48:21
You know, then, then at least we don't have to worry about
48:23
bothering anybody. You know what I mean?
48:26
Oh, we don't we don't bother anybody there.
48:28
They love it all. Right.
48:31
They the guys love it. They they actually, I talked to
48:34
them the other day and they asked when we were coming back
48:36
and I said I didn't know. I'm glad that they're enjoying
48:39
it, you know. I'm glad they're allowing us to,
48:42
to do that, you know, 'cause I I think for them too.
48:46
It's it's nice because it's something different.
48:48
Not a lot of lounges do that. You know what I mean?
48:52
Yeah, I know you know Coop can attest to this because I I
48:56
reached out to him. The assholes and New York
48:59
assholes would love us to have us back down there too.
49:02
So. That that is coop's comment.
49:05
Bother everyone. I bother everyone, Coop, you
49:10
know that. I bother everybody.
49:12
I don't get. I care less.
49:15
I bother everybody Coop, you know that.
49:19
Eat a bag of Dicks. Eat a bag of Dicks.
49:23
There's also a few other things we got in the works as well.
49:27
As far as the podcast goes, we've we've contacted a few
49:31
different places, he said. Not you.
49:34
No, you don't bother anybody. No, I I cool.
49:38
Cool. I never bother nobody.
49:40
Cool. Did you see that OG?
49:43
He said he. He said he don't bother nobody.
49:45
He said No, not you, never bother nobody.
49:51
Mind your business. That's the wife.
49:54
Ladies and gentlemen, no, there's there's a that's that's
49:56
the wife. There's a few things there,
50:00
those are. Comments in there, The wife.
50:02
Those are comments in there. Shout out to wife for 30.
50:05
Years There's a There's a few things that we've got in the
50:09
works as well. You know, as far as what we're
50:14
doing, we're waiting on a e-mail back from a yeah, well, I wasn't
50:22
going to say that, but that's OK.
50:25
Cat's out of the bag now. And it's already out there now,
50:30
because he can't keep things a secret.
50:31
He sucks. He sucks at keeping secrets.
50:34
That's why we don't tell him anything.
50:35
No, I don't suck, motherfucker. No, you suck at keeping secrets.
50:39
No, you suck you. You have a really big fucking
50:41
mouth. You can't keep anything.
50:44
You can't keep anything open. Your mouth has to be open 100%.
50:48
Shut out the pens. Shut out the pens.
50:56
But yeah, so we're working on that destination hurt for
51:02
waiting to hear back from them. As far as me, I've reached out
51:12
to a company in Pennsylvania. They're looking to fill out
51:18
their roster for 2024, so I've reached out to them.
51:23
We'll see. Maybe you'll see more of me in
51:25
Pennsylvania in the in the confines of a spirit circle.
51:33
What do you smoke it? The the Brosio.
51:35
Yep. That's, you know, that's Drew,
51:38
right? Yep.
51:41
I haven't had that. How is that?
51:44
It's absolutely, you know, for the for the price of the stick,
51:49
it's really good. That's what Is that like a four
51:52
or a $5 stick, right? Well, New York, it's an $11.00,
51:56
but yeah. No, no, that's what I'm saying.
51:59
It's like, I think, I think certain places.
52:01
Is it actually? No, it's A5.
52:03
It's like a 5. It's a $5 normally, a $5 smoke,
52:08
but. But that's a nice dark.
52:12
Yeah. This is, Yeah.
52:13
I think this is the where. Where's my fucking camera?
52:16
There it. Is there you go.
52:17
See that and look, I can see it now.
52:18
Good job. Hey, asshole.
52:24
No, I think that that looks more of like a.
52:28
A could be wrong, but that looks kind of like a broadleaf
52:32
wrapper. Now I could be. 100% wrong.
52:35
Because I don't know enough about that cigar to tell you I I
52:39
thought. I thought it was a Maduro.
52:41
I could be wrong, but it very tasty, very thorough Maduro.
52:48
Like I said, I don't know. I don't know enough about that
52:51
to be able to kind of, you know, give you like a rundown of what
52:54
it is or give the people watching a rundown because I
52:56
don't know enough about it. Yeah, it's it's nice.
52:59
It's got a a little hint of coffee or espresso in it, but
53:04
it's got your initial light up. It's got a nice pop to it, nice
53:07
little eye opener, little spice in there.
53:10
I am. I'm horrible telling black
53:12
pepper versus white pepper, but there's definitely a pepper
53:15
sensation in there. So I I've learned you can kind
53:19
of tell which is which. The white pepper will kind of
53:23
sit in the in the back. No, this is this is initial.
53:28
This is an initial boom. So that doesn't, it doesn't
53:32
linger. That's.
53:33
Just a that's just a nice little pop of like the black pepper,
53:36
because the white pepper, you'll know, you'll know when you have
53:40
a little bit of white pepper in there because it'll sit almost.
53:44
It's going to sound weird, but like at the back of your throat,
53:49
that's where the black pepper, that's where the white pepper
53:51
will sit. And then you'll feel it.
53:52
When you retro this way, you'll feel that that tingle of the the
53:59
white pepper. You'll feel how how much more
54:01
powerful it can be. Yeah, I mean this, this Cle
54:06
Hibano, it's been a while, so I'm kind of, if you notice, I'm
54:10
kind of looking at it while I'm smoking it because it's been so
54:13
long since I've had one. But for those who don't know,
54:16
Cle also makes Asylum as well. Well.
54:22
On that note, let's go to commercial no.
54:24
We're not going to go to commercial.
54:26
We just came back from commercial.
54:28
We just came back from commercial.
54:31
Relax. Don't get ahead of yourself.
54:34
Chill. Yeah.
54:38
So with this, with this Habano, with this Habano, I'm getting
54:43
kind of a a faint hit of like a a black pepper.
54:49
I'm getting some light espresso notes, a little hint of, like a
54:56
milk chocolate or a light cocoa, you know?
55:06
This is this is a is a very good cigar.
55:11
I think the. Average price on these in New
55:13
York is 16 or $17.00. Yeah, it sucks.
55:22
In New York, they just. They just What's that?
55:28
How does it feel to be the special guest ref for the dog
55:32
and the gorilla? Hey, listen, I'm just a
55:35
sidekick, you know, they're they're Superman and Batman.
55:38
I'm just fucking Robin. That's it.
55:40
Oh. Fucking you are the sidekick and
55:42
don't ever. I'm a jabroni.
55:43
I know my role. You fucking sidekick.
55:46
Don't ever forget your role, motherfucker.
55:49
Just make sure you do this. Don't ever forget your role.
55:54
Just pat yourself on the back on the.
55:56
Back just go like this. Shout out to Barrow Horowitz.
56:01
What? Yeah, I I mean, listen, there's
56:05
New York is not the the greatest for for taxes as far as cigars
56:10
go. Every once in a while you'll
56:12
find those little hole in the wall stores like I know one.
56:17
Well, it passed. It passed the House in New York
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State, they'll bump it up to 95%.
56:24
It's got to go through the state Senate now.
56:26
I don't think it looks, it looks like they got the numbers, but
56:30
they're not taking that vote until the Senate reconvenes in
56:33
February or March. We'll see.
56:36
I mean by then at that point, it might it, it might change, you
56:39
know what I mean? You know, it might.
56:41
It might be something New York's trying to push tobacco out of
56:44
the state altogether. So I don't know.
56:46
California did. California tried that.
56:50
California tried that. But then California dropped
56:55
their taxes just recently, and I'm hoping New York follows
57:00
suit. But we'll.
57:01
See, they drop their tobacco tax.
57:03
So I know usually if California does it, I know sometimes we
57:07
follow. But there's one hole in the
57:10
wall, little little spot. I do eventually have to, I do
57:14
eventually have to get you to. He's a little small walk in
57:18
Humidor. I don't know if you guys know,
57:25
but there's an Indian Res pass Long Island.
57:27
Wait, what? Did you know that ME did?
57:33
You know that there's Indian res that we can go to buy cigars.
57:36
That won't be expensive. I didn't know that.
57:41
I know there's one in Upstate. I know there's one up north.
57:44
I do not know that. But I also haven't.
57:45
I also haven't been down that way.
57:48
I haven't been down that way, but.
57:50
There's this one hole in the wall.
57:51
Little, little. It's a deli.
57:55
It's a deli who has a walk in humidor dude.
57:58
He's got stuff that I haven't seen in a long time.
58:03
I got to take you to Connecticut to to the to the secret spot,
58:07
secret location. As as Pugs would say, it's block
58:12
worthy. I have to get you to there at
58:17
some point because. It's just when you walk in,
58:24
dude, you're not going to know what to do with yourself.
58:29
You're not going to know. You're not going to know what to
58:31
do with yourself. If I take you to that spot in
58:36
Connecticut, looking forward to it.
58:40
So mind your business. You're you'll, you'll enjoy
58:43
that. We're going to have to.
58:44
We're going to have to get you down there, maybe.
58:49
We'll figure it out. We'll set up a day for you to
58:52
come down and we'll go out that way because it's it's not a,
58:58
it's not a far ride. It's like I think thirty 3540
59:02
minutes for me, it's right in, right over the border in
59:06
Connecticut. It's not that bad, but it's a
59:10
it's a very block worthy location as Pugs would put it.
59:13
It's a location that if he does not have, it ain't.
59:18
Got. It no longer exists or there are
59:23
certain there are certain places that he doesn't get from or
59:28
there are certain things he doesn't want.
59:30
Like he he just got Privada right after PCA but but he
59:39
didn't get everything Privada. Has he got the blue cheese
59:46
right? He got a few other a few other
59:52
provider products, but like he told him, this is what I want.
59:56
Don't send me all this other, you know, not not that provider
1:00:01
makes bullshit because they don't, but like he doesn't want
1:00:06
all the other odds and ends. So you know, bullshit stuff.
1:00:13
So on that note, everybody. We we're going to cut this.
1:00:19
We're going to cut this podcast for the day.
1:00:22
So on that note, I'm the vanilla gorilla.
1:00:26
That's the big dog. That's the OG.
1:00:28
This has been primetime Sunday of turnbuckles and stogie.
1:00:35
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1:00:39
No matter what it is, it's always a great cigar.
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1:00:55
So that's been it. That's a wrap.
1:00:58
Everybody. Let's tag out.
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