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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to buck Eyes tomorrow morning for Tuesday, March fourth.
- 0:03Speaker 1: I'm your host, tom Or the Texas game in one
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- 0:21Speaker 1: so here's the show that I thought you were going
- 0:23Speaker 1: to get yesterday. But then the NHL Stadium Series game
- 0:26Speaker 1: at Ohio Stadium was really, really cool, an amazing night,
- 0:30Speaker 1: and I wanted to do a show on that. So
- 0:32Speaker 1: you got that show yesterday. Now you're getting the show
- 0:33Speaker 1: that I thought you were going to get yesterday. It's fine,
- 0:36Speaker 1: It's worth the wait. It is one of my favorite
- 0:38Speaker 1: Ohio State players to talk to. Donovan Jackson. Our crew
- 0:41Speaker 1: in the NFL Combine got a chance to talk to
- 0:44Speaker 1: him over the weekend. The offensive line were some of
- 0:46Speaker 1: the last interviews of the week. Donovan Jackson had a
- 0:50Speaker 1: lot of interesting stuff to say aboutout last season. The
- 0:53Speaker 1: run to a national championship, has moved to left tackle,
- 0:56Speaker 1: some of the guys who are kind of coming up
- 0:58Speaker 1: next on the offensive lines, and really really interesting stuff
- 1:00Speaker 1: from Donovan Jackson. So you got to get a whole
- 1:02Speaker 1: show hearing from him. There's some other really interesting interviews
- 1:05Speaker 1: that we haven't gotten to yet. You might get some
- 1:06Speaker 1: of those little later on the week. We'll see how
- 1:08Speaker 1: the week goes, but let's start with Donovan Jackson. Is
- 1:11Speaker 1: he grateful now looking back to have the experience of
- 1:14Speaker 1: playing left tackle for the second half of last season.
- 1:17Speaker 2: I'm very grateful for the experience, you know, I'm I'm
- 1:20Speaker 2: Unfortunately the way I got it wasn't the way I
- 1:23Speaker 2: wanted to go obviously. You know, I had fantastic guys
- 1:25Speaker 2: that we're playing in the position, but we always at
- 1:28Speaker 2: a high so we always take competitive excellens. You know,
- 1:30Speaker 2: you got to make the plan on your numbers called.
- 1:32Speaker 2: So when my number is called to play tackle, I
- 1:35Speaker 2: went went into it with the best mentality I could say.
- 1:38Speaker 2: If I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna do with the
- 1:39Speaker 2: best of my ability, you know, showing off my versatility
- 1:42Speaker 2: a little bit, showing that you know, I can I
- 1:44Speaker 2: can play anywhere on the line. So I'm grateful for
- 1:46Speaker 2: the experience.
- 1:47Speaker 1: What did Donovan Jackson see the most benefit from his
- 1:50Speaker 1: time kicking out from left guard to left tackle.
- 1:53Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like it benefited me a lot in
- 1:55Speaker 2: terms of i'll say, different aspects of my game where
- 1:58Speaker 2: the bfeet, hand usage, you know, working out in space
- 2:01Speaker 2: because you know there are other times at guard where
- 2:03Speaker 2: if you're at guard, there's still gonna be a d
- 2:04Speaker 2: in on you, like guys can come out in a
- 2:05Speaker 2: rushman package or sack packers or anything like that. So
- 2:09Speaker 2: you know, I think the experience helped in terms of
- 2:12Speaker 2: how I viewed the game.
- 2:14Speaker 1: Having him play left tackle was obviously not Plan A
- 2:17Speaker 1: or even Plan B for the Buckeyes this year. So
- 2:20Speaker 1: how did that conversation go when Justin Fry approached him
- 2:23Speaker 1: about maybe moving out to tackle before the Penn State game.
- 2:27Speaker 2: Yeah, so when when Josh initially got hurt and then
- 2:31Speaker 2: Zen Maholski went in when he unfortunately got hurt as well,
- 2:34Speaker 2: Coach Fry came up to me. He was like, look, man,
- 2:36Speaker 2: like I know we always joked because we always joked about, Oh,
- 2:39Speaker 2: you're gonna have to play tackle. I was like, no,
- 2:40Speaker 2: I'm not. But but when when the conversation finally came,
- 2:45Speaker 2: I looked like, we need you to, you know, kick
- 2:47Speaker 2: out the tackle for this big week, playing a big team.
- 2:50Speaker 2: So it was it was a lot to think about.
- 2:51Speaker 2: He weighed the pros and the cons of the decision,
- 2:55Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, like, I just
- 2:56Speaker 2: like winning more than anything else, and I felt like
- 2:58Speaker 2: in me moving outside with help us win because I
- 3:01Speaker 2: think this happened around like week seven, so there's still
- 3:03Speaker 2: a lot of football ahead of us. So I just
- 3:06Speaker 2: like winning more than anything else. So I knew that
- 3:08Speaker 2: I had a lot of work to do and I
- 3:09Speaker 2: practicing it is two amazing edge rushers every day, so
- 3:11Speaker 2: I had no choice about to get better.
- 3:13Speaker 1: A little bit more of a big picture question now
- 3:15Speaker 1: for Donovan Jackson, looking back, what did it mean to
- 3:18Speaker 1: Jackson to play at Ohio State.
- 3:20Speaker 2: Yeah, being a Buck, I'm in everything to me, you know,
- 3:23Speaker 2: growing up my parents growing up in Texas. At least
- 3:27Speaker 2: my parents already asked me, are you like to their
- 3:29Speaker 2: two major teams in Texas, But my parents are like nah,
- 3:32Speaker 2: Like my mom is a huge Ohio State fan. She's like, now,
- 3:34Speaker 2: you're a Buck guy. And I was like, okay, Mom.
- 3:36Speaker 2: But then eventually the time came for me to make
- 3:38Speaker 2: a college decision. I chose Ohio State. And you know,
- 3:42Speaker 2: scarlet and Gray means everything to me, you know, the
- 3:44Speaker 2: University of the State, the guys I played with, I
- 3:47Speaker 2: bled with, sweated with, cried with. It means everything is
- 3:51Speaker 2: so deep in my heart, deep and grained in my
- 3:52Speaker 2: heart that my time at Ohio State was a huge
- 3:56Speaker 2: development factor and who I am today.
- 3:58Speaker 1: All Right, So here's one of the more questions that
- 4:00Speaker 1: we got for a bunch of these guys during the
- 4:03Speaker 1: course of the week at the NFL Combine. It's about
- 4:05Speaker 1: who's up next at their positions.
- 4:08Speaker 2: Yeah, so, uh, the guys haven't seen. Obviously, Loop balled
- 4:11Speaker 2: out in the playoffs. I just know he's going to
- 4:13Speaker 2: continue it throughout the season. Carson stepped in, uh when
- 4:17Speaker 2: we had other injuries and you know, didn't miss a beat.
- 4:20Speaker 2: Tegra had a great first year, and I know he's
- 4:23Speaker 2: just going to continue to grow. But guys, we haven't
- 4:26Speaker 2: seen I think that, uh. I think Josh for Dia
- 4:30Speaker 2: is gonna be really good. Josh er Dia Ian Moore.
- 4:34Speaker 2: Ian Moore is a guy who near the end of
- 4:36Speaker 2: end of his freshman year started to figure it out,
- 4:38Speaker 2: and you can see him starting to figure out throughout practice.
- 4:40Speaker 2: I feel like he's gonna have a really good career
- 4:41Speaker 2: to how to say.
- 4:42Speaker 1: This is a great question for our buddy, Tony Gerdaman.
- 4:46Speaker 1: Was Donovan Jackson sort of surprised that the three guard
- 4:48Speaker 1: rotation worked in the playoff? Now, I will raise my
- 4:50Speaker 1: hand and say yeah. I when they announced that they
- 4:52Speaker 1: were going to do a three yuard rotation the week
- 4:54Speaker 1: of the Tennessee game, it was like, oh, that seems
- 4:56Speaker 1: like that's probably a bad idea. And Donovan will hit
- 5:01Speaker 1: Tony with a little bit of a power pause here.
- 5:03Speaker 1: If you're listening and you're not watching, you can basically
- 5:06Speaker 1: see the wheel spinning because he's not sure exactly how
- 5:09Speaker 1: honest he's going to be for a second about his
- 5:11Speaker 1: thoughts on the three guard rotation and whether he was
- 5:14Speaker 1: surprised at worked.
- 5:15Speaker 2: Uh No, no, no, I wasn't. I wasn't surprised. I knew,
- 5:22Speaker 2: I knew what all those guys are capable of. I
- 5:25Speaker 2: think when I realized, like, oh my gosh, it's really
- 5:28Speaker 2: gonna work for sure, Like when we first introduced the
- 5:30Speaker 2: guard rotation, like guys coming in out in practice. I
- 5:33Speaker 2: was like, I don't know, like you, guy's gotta get
- 5:35Speaker 2: a rhythm here. But when we were playing Tennessee and
- 5:37Speaker 2: like I was playing next to Sarahveld, I was playing
- 5:39Speaker 2: next to Luke and both those guys were just bawling,
- 5:43Speaker 2: I was like, man, this is a great idea. Like
- 5:46Speaker 2: I believe that this is from the start. But yeah,
- 5:48Speaker 2: I mean, like all those guys up that rotated to
- 5:51Speaker 2: help us, when when the obviously the big one at
- 5:53Speaker 2: the end that had played an amazing job playing top
- 5:57Speaker 2: notche football, Well, I did it work because as a Sally,
- 6:01Speaker 2: as speaking as offensive line, we just have played with
- 6:04Speaker 2: the chip on our shoulder every game. Every game we
- 6:08Speaker 2: just remembered where we were at the end of the season,
- 6:11Speaker 2: and every game we just kept reminding ourselves what people
- 6:13Speaker 2: said about us. You know, I believe when we were
- 6:15Speaker 2: announced for the playoffs, people are like, oh, man, that
- 6:18Speaker 2: Tennessee front's going to run through all house it offensive
- 6:21Speaker 2: line and so that, and then other people were saying, man,
- 6:24Speaker 2: I really hope they don't have a home game in
- 6:25Speaker 2: the shot because they're going to boot the Buckeyes out
- 6:27Speaker 2: of there. So just those clips were just running through
- 6:31Speaker 2: our head, just cycling through and through to the point
- 6:33Speaker 2: where just we knew we had to play better.
- 6:37Speaker 1: Mentioned earlier that Donovan Jackson's first game at left tackle
- 6:40Speaker 1: was against Penn State. Now that's a tough opponent on
- 6:43Speaker 1: the road, tough environment, So that's already a pretty big challenge,
- 6:47Speaker 1: not to mention the fact that Abdul Carter was lined
- 6:49Speaker 1: up across from him for a whole bunch of that game.
- 6:51Speaker 1: So what was it like getting thrown in at left
- 6:53Speaker 1: tackle against Abdul Carter in his first game as a
- 6:57Speaker 1: left tackle?
- 6:57Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I look back on it and see
- 6:59Speaker 2: how much I've grown from then. You know, I had
- 7:01Speaker 2: what four days notice to learn how to play tackle,
- 7:04Speaker 2: So I just seeing how I set seeing how I
- 7:08Speaker 2: did everything then to now. I sometimes look back on
- 7:11Speaker 2: and see and just kind of appreciate how much I've
- 7:14Speaker 2: grown and just renew myself of there's still so much
- 7:17Speaker 2: to do. Yeah, it was huge for us obviously as
- 7:20Speaker 2: a team to win that game. Obviously a great opponent
- 7:23Speaker 2: that we went against, but it was big volvens of line,
- 7:26Speaker 2: especially down the stretch in the fourth quarter with our
- 7:29Speaker 2: heels essentially in our in their end zone to drive
- 7:32Speaker 2: the ball out and try to run the clock out
- 7:35Speaker 2: to win the game.
- 7:35Speaker 1: One of the most memorable moments of the season, of course,
- 7:38Speaker 1: was the scoop and score by Jack Sawyer in the
- 7:40Speaker 1: Cotton Bowl against Texas. So what was Donovan Jackson thinking?
- 7:44Speaker 1: What was going through his mind during that play?
- 7:47Speaker 2: Yeah, I initially didn't know what was going on. We
- 7:50Speaker 2: were on the sideline preparing to you know, run a
- 7:52Speaker 2: quick four minute drill, so Coach Fry was drawing up
- 7:54Speaker 2: plays and trying to talk us through some of the looks,
- 7:57Speaker 2: and we just hear the crowd go crazy. I look
- 7:59Speaker 2: up and Jack Sawyers running down the sideline and I
- 8:01Speaker 2: was like, no way, Like we were all freaking out,
- 8:05Speaker 2: you know. You know, Jack Sawy is one of those
- 8:07Speaker 2: guys where, you know, kind of cement to himself and
- 8:08Speaker 2: I'll have to say history, and that couldn't have happened
- 8:11Speaker 2: to any better guy. You know. He kind of kind
- 8:15Speaker 2: of ran the show, especially in the playoffs, of making
- 8:16Speaker 2: sure everyone's on the same page before the season, making
- 8:20Speaker 2: calling everybody, make sure we all you know, get on
- 8:22Speaker 2: board of coming back. So you know, it couldn't happened
- 8:26Speaker 2: to a much better guy, you know, Captain Jack Sawyer.
- 8:29Speaker 1: And finally, a question for Donovan Jackson about Seth McLaughlin. Now,
- 8:32Speaker 1: Seth McLaughlin is coming back from an achilles injury, of course,
- 8:35Speaker 1: and the good news is it sounds like he will
- 8:37Speaker 1: be good to go for training camp whenever he gets,
- 8:39Speaker 1: you know, wherever he gets drafted by an NFL team.
- 8:42Speaker 1: So what would Donovan Jackson tell NFL teams about Seth McLaughlin.
- 8:47Speaker 2: Seth McLoughlin's a field general. You know there are we
- 8:51Speaker 2: wouldn't have started the way we did without Seth McLoughlin.
- 8:54Speaker 2: I'll tell you that there were many times, many looks
- 8:57Speaker 2: where he would check it like mid cadence with when
- 9:01Speaker 2: Will's Midcayen's He like, no, we're going over here now.
- 9:04Speaker 2: And then they would bring a rifle of blitz to
- 9:07Speaker 2: where he checked it and we would pick it up.
- 9:09Speaker 2: So Seth knows what's going on all the time, and
- 9:13Speaker 2: he's he's a guy who's like organization, be lucky to
- 9:17Speaker 2: have because I know that our success. Even when he
- 9:20Speaker 2: unfortunately did get hurt around week ten, he was still
- 9:22Speaker 2: in the building. He was you know, he didn't go
- 9:25Speaker 2: outside to outside practice. Because it was cold as ice.
- 9:28Speaker 2: But but he when he was always in the meeting rooms,
- 9:31Speaker 2: he was always in the indoor practice and practice field,
- 9:34Speaker 2: making sure everyone's on the same page, making sure we
- 9:36Speaker 2: all had that same mentality coming into games. And I
- 9:39Speaker 2: feel like we wouldn't have been where we are now
- 9:41Speaker 2: without Seth McLaughlin.
- 9:42Speaker 1: I hope you guys enjoyed that, a little bit of this,
- 9:44Speaker 1: a little bit of that. But I'm guessing people are
- 9:46Speaker 1: probably pretty interested in some of the look back at
- 9:49Speaker 1: the run to the National Championship, and of course they
- 9:51Speaker 1: look ahead to the twenty twenty five buck Eyes as well.
- 9:54Speaker 1: So I'll try to maybe get you one more of
- 9:56Speaker 1: these shows looking back at some of those interviews from
- 9:58Speaker 1: the NFL combline, because there's still some really interesting stuff
- 10:01Speaker 1: we haven't gotten the chance to get to yet, So
- 10:03Speaker 1: get to one of those later this week. But we've
- 10:05Speaker 1: got some other stuff coming up this week as well,
- 10:07Speaker 1: probably hopefully maybe some interviews with Ohio State assistant coaches
- 10:11Speaker 1: before everyone heads off for spring break, and then of
- 10:13Speaker 1: course spring ball will start in just a couple of weeks.
- 10:15Speaker 1: We're gonna have a busy month, a lot of stuff
- 10:17Speaker 1: to talk about all at pucke huddle dot com basketball
- 10:20Speaker 1: team has its final home game of the season Tuesday
- 10:22Speaker 1: night against Nebraska. There is a lot to talk about
- 10:25Speaker 1: there at puckey huddle dot com and of course at
- 10:27Speaker 1: YouTube dot com slash Buckeye Huddle. That'll do it for today.
- 10:30Speaker 1: Thank you guys all for joining us. Have a great day.
- 10:32Speaker 1: We'll talk to you tomorrow.