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Chuck & Buck 6-8 Hour 1: We blew it... Mariners Morning After & the man, the myth, the Legend? · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: j R FM, Heronic glorious Monday here in Seattle, Washington.
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Speaker 1: We welcome you to our four hour radio program. And
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Speaker 1: when I do say we, I mean Ashley Ryan and myself.
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Speaker 1: Bucky Jacobson is still out on medical leave, and so
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Speaker 1: we roll on here on this Monday morning. We hope
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Speaker 1: you all had a great weekend. You're off to a
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Speaker 1: great start this morning, and we got a lot of
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Speaker 1: topics to get to.
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Speaker 3: Ashley, good morning too, you good to see you, Good morning,
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Speaker 3: Good to see you. How are your a couple of
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Speaker 3: days off?
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Speaker 1: They were good, very good, very good. Like I don't
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Speaker 1: think that I didn't go out of town or anything
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Speaker 1: like that. I just kind of enjoyed. It's amazing how
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Speaker 1: long days are and how much you can get done
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Speaker 1: when you don't have to carve out like eleven hours
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Speaker 1: per day for sports.
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Speaker 3: Yeah that's fair.
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Speaker 1: I mean I still watched sports, and I still enjoyed sports,
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Speaker 1: but like it was just kind of on my time
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Speaker 1: and on my schedule and so so yeah, I mean
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Speaker 1: I got a lot accomplished over those two days. And
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, I didn't feel like I was
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Speaker 1: gone for four days. When I pulled into my parking
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Speaker 1: spot today, it felt like, oh I was just here.
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Speaker 1: So it went fast, I'll tell you that much.
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Speaker 3: It always does. The free time always flies by.
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Speaker 1: How are things? How did Thursday and Friday go? I
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Speaker 1: heard a little bit of it.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was good. We had Dick Fainnan on Thursday.
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Speaker 1: Yeah that was terrible.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know right, that guy. We had Greg Bell
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Speaker 3: on Friday.
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Speaker 1: Did he work a double?
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Speaker 5: No?
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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, he came in and did this,
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Speaker 3: and then Chris Crawford did his show.
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Speaker 1: Oh I see okay, yeah, so Chris Crawford will make
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Speaker 1: you jump, Daddy Mac will make you jump. Yeah, well, yes,
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Speaker 1: so good. But it all went well. Place didn't burn down?
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Speaker 4: Right?
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Speaker 1: No? No, no, pretty obvious.
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Speaker 3: We're still here. Which place not burning down is not
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Speaker 3: always an obvious all jump?
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Speaker 1: True, that's true. I did hear there were some electrical
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Speaker 1: issues again.
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Speaker 6: That part.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Ian's show went down, went dark bike on Maybe
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Speaker 1: that was Wednesday. I don't remember. When you're off, just
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Speaker 1: you know, getting high on life. Things just run together
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Speaker 1: like that's the only thing you were getting high on. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's true. Aaron Rodgers and I.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, now Oscar retreat YEP.
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Speaker 1: That's you got me, nailed me. That's what happened. I
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Speaker 1: was trying to keep that. Boy, it only took three
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Speaker 1: and a half minutes. I was trying to keep that
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Speaker 1: time from that all over my eyes. I'll tell you what.
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Speaker 1: I was gonna save that for OPQ and instead now
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Speaker 1: it's out, cats out of the bag. Well, good morning
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Speaker 1: to you, Welcome into the show. It is strange. My
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Speaker 1: birthday was Thursday, which I don't normally promote, but because
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Speaker 1: of the Colin Ray concert, we ended up making like
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Speaker 1: a thing out of it. And so yeah, I got
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Speaker 1: a lot of birthday love, including a terrific party thrown
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Speaker 1: to me by Arden, who is our sales manager here
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Speaker 1: and she's awesome and went out of her way to
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Speaker 1: make Anders and I the birthday boys feel special last Wednesday.
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Speaker 1: So I want to do on air thank her for that,
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Speaker 1: But I also want to shame her because now, thanks
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Speaker 1: to her and Ashley, Ryan and Jenny, we now have
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Speaker 1: floating fake heads of mine floating around the office.
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Speaker 3: Yes, AI generated chuck images, yes this one.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the Bucky ones have been floating around for
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Speaker 1: months and they have not gone away, so I have
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Speaker 1: something to compare it to. So Arden makes like these
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Speaker 1: little fat head things of baby pictures and stuff that
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Speaker 1: she can get her hands on, and so BUCkies still
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Speaker 1: are all over the place. So now I come to
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Speaker 1: work today and I'm reminded that I have my own
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Speaker 1: fat heads. But mine are a little different because mine
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Speaker 1: aren't even me.
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Speaker 4: Right, well, they're based off you. It's off the image
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Speaker 4: that's on the webs site.
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Speaker 1: All right, so you AI Tybe pictures. And then like,
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Speaker 1: I is that supposed to be like my high school?
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Speaker 1: I love that I have the wrinkles around my eyes
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Speaker 1: that's supposed to be me in high school.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because AI couldn't quite figure out how to make
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Speaker 3: you younger. The first one, though, was the best one.
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Speaker 6: I was.
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Speaker 3: We did that image. We're like, okay, now give him
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Speaker 3: a mullet and a tuxedo, and it was just you
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Speaker 3: currently with a mullet and a tuxedo and your facial hair.
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Speaker 3: And then we're like, no, now make him younger, or
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Speaker 3: we said something, you know, and you know what, Ai,
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Speaker 3: it tried hard.
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Speaker 1: It did, I mean it, I mean it did strike
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Speaker 1: me as that's pretty similar yeah to the way I
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Speaker 1: looked once upon a time. I looked a lot younger
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Speaker 1: when I was actually.
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Speaker 3: Young, yes, which is important to note.
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Speaker 1: And yes I had a free flowing mullet that did
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Speaker 1: have a permanent applied to it, but it wasn't all over.
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Speaker 1: I kind of looked like a poodle going through pubic
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Speaker 1: haired pubic hair nightmare. And the and the photo that
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Speaker 1: you gave So now that is going to haunt me
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Speaker 1: for I don't know how long now, because it's probably
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Speaker 1: never going to go away. They're probably going to be
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Speaker 1: floating around. I mean, Arden's already put two up in her.
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Speaker 4: In her I mean they people do put them by
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Speaker 4: their desks. I did not take one, so don't worry.
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Speaker 4: I will not be a part of keeping one around.
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Speaker 3: Okay, good for a long time.
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Speaker 1: I didn't take a couple home to show the unicorn,
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Speaker 1: and she did get a good laugh out of you.
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Speaker 3: Think of the cupcakes.
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Speaker 1: And then the cupcakes I took next door because it's
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Speaker 1: gluten right, but saw them, and then I took them
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Speaker 1: to a local business that we frequent and let them
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Speaker 1: have the cupcakes. Nice but and they got a big
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Speaker 1: kick out of the faces too.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: But anyway, so thank you to you and Jenny and
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Speaker 1: too Arden and to the entire staff because.
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Speaker 3: That was nice AI and did in real life.
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, exactly. So I don't know how many times
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Speaker 1: over the next few weeks I'm going to be asked
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Speaker 1: the question, is that really how you looked?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna happen a lot.
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Speaker 1: Well, yes, and no, let me tell you a story.
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Speaker 3: Let me tell you a little story.
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Speaker 1: All right. Well, we're delaying the inevitable because it's time
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Speaker 1: to talk about a baseball team, which you know they're
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Speaker 1: not gonna win them all. And lately they've been playing better,
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Speaker 1: but you go to Detroit and you feel like, okay,
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Speaker 1: we kicked that last one at home against the Mets,
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Speaker 1: and Tigers have been struggling a little bit, even though
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Speaker 1: we know they're a pretty good team on paper. After all,
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Speaker 1: they took us to the mat to you know, in
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Speaker 1: the playoffs last year. We know how good they are,
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Speaker 1: and they've very narrowly knocked us out before we even
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Speaker 1: got to the American League Championship series. So we know
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Speaker 1: they can play ball there in Detroit, but they've had
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Speaker 1: a bad season to this point, and we didn't want
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Speaker 1: them getting well against the local baseball team. And yet
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Speaker 1: they seem to have gotten well. They take two out
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Speaker 1: of three. But frustratingly so the Mariners seem to own
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Speaker 1: that game yesterday. They seem to have it under control
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Speaker 1: the entire way. And then and then just some weirdness
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Speaker 1: which certainly we're going to dive into here on the
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Speaker 1: radio program right now. And look, there's the Andre's Munjos
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Speaker 1: element of this that certainly comes to mind. And I
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Speaker 1: am going to spend some time really just I'm going
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Speaker 1: to spend an entire fat segment today, one of our
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Speaker 1: fat segments today talking about Andres Munos because obviously he's
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Speaker 1: not on his game. But I think, Ashley, you know
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Speaker 1: where I'm going with this, because my frustrations fell a
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Speaker 1: lot more at the feet of Dan Wilson yesterday than
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Speaker 1: they did at Andres Munjos. And you know why, I'm
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Speaker 1: sure because I talked about it so frequently.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't have a guy pitch so infrequently and
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Speaker 4: then expect him to be sharp.
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Speaker 1: That's the way I feel. That's the way Andres feels.
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Speaker 1: And I don't understand why we can't. I mean, we've
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Speaker 1: got all of this numerology that we pour over, this
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Speaker 1: analytics and this nerderama that we employ down the street
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Speaker 1: at T Mobile, and yet just the basic principle of
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Speaker 1: does the how when is our closer at his best?
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Speaker 1: And it's not every five six days. I can tell
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Speaker 1: you that. And he's even told you that.
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Speaker 3: That's the thing is he said it himself, this is
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Speaker 3: this isn't good for me.
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Speaker 1: We've discussed it ad nauseum. And I'm not saying that
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Speaker 1: Dan Wilson's listening to us and making his game plans
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Speaker 1: based off of us, No, but enough people have discussed it.
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Speaker 1: It's out there. I don't know how it is not
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Speaker 1: more obvious. And so I'm gonna lay some at Andre's
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Speaker 1: Muno's feet. I mean, get the job done. Why why
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Speaker 1: do you struggle when you've been given so much rest?
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Speaker 1: But one thing was very obvious about yesterday, and that
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Speaker 1: was he was fresh. He was throwing harder than he
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Speaker 1: had all season long. He was throwing one on one,
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Speaker 1: one hundred and two mile per hour fastball that was back.
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Speaker 1: So there's no doubt that he was fresh from all
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Speaker 1: the excess rest that he has been given as of late.
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Speaker 1: But he was also not anywhere close at times to
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Speaker 1: the strike zone, which shows you that he was out
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Speaker 1: of rhythm. He was out of his sink. And that
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Speaker 1: comes from him being so used so infrequently, and it
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Speaker 1: keeps happening over and over this season, and there were
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Speaker 1: plenty of times that Dan had the opportunity to use
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Speaker 1: him over the course of the weekend. Hey, if we
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Speaker 1: really are starting to wonder if he should be our closer,
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Speaker 1: then let's not make him our closer. I'm saying every
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Speaker 1: single night, let's not have the idea that the only
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Speaker 1: time we ever put Andres Munnos in a game is
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Speaker 1: when we have the lead in the ninth, and yet
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Speaker 1: that seems to be the way that Dan Wilson is operating.
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Speaker 1: He should pitched Saturday. We were up four to nothing.
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Speaker 3: Why wouldn't we use him then?
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Speaker 1: And I get it, some closers don't. They don't perform
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Speaker 1: as sharply when there's not a save on the line. Well,
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Speaker 1: let's start start getting him out of that, you know,
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Speaker 1: four to nothing. That seemed like a perfect time since
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Speaker 1: we hadn't used him in four days, to throw him
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Speaker 1: into a game. It's not like we were blowing them away.
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Speaker 1: You use Gabe Spire and right now he's as valuable
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Speaker 1: as Andre's munyos, if not more so. In that game
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Speaker 1: that was an opportunity. And then on Friday even I mean,
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Speaker 1: I know we were down two, but that's a bloop
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Speaker 1: and a blast away. And for whatever reason, Dan Wilson
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Speaker 1: believes that if you're down to the game's over and
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Speaker 1: we're gonna throw our worst pitcher out there, as opposed to, hey,
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Speaker 1: we're down to we're a bloop and a blast away,
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Speaker 1: and we got to get Andre some work. I have
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Speaker 1: not you. We had a day off on Thursday. I
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Speaker 1: didn't use him on Wednesday I haven't used him in
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Speaker 1: five days, and he's told me, he's told me he
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Speaker 1: needs more usage. We can't. We can't keep going five
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Speaker 1: or six days without using somebody that obviously relies on
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Speaker 1: that rhythm. So why not throw them into Friday? We
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Speaker 1: had the momentum in that game. We're a bloop and
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Speaker 1: a blast away from tying the damn thing up. By
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Speaker 1: then we throw. And I don't mean offence to Alex Hoppy,
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Speaker 1: but he is the last guy in our bullpen that
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Speaker 1: we would use. And those guys are called mop up guys.
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Speaker 1: And mop up to me is when you're up six
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Speaker 1: or down five, you know, not when you're within a
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Speaker 1: bloop and a blast of tying the damn thing up,
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Speaker 1: you've got momentum. The Tigers have had trouble with their
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Speaker 1: bullpen all season long. Why not use Munno's Friday, keep
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Speaker 1: the score at two runs, keep him in his rhythm.
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Speaker 1: And there is and I don't know where it is written,
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Speaker 1: because I believe me, I've started to break down the numbers,
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Speaker 1: which we'll get into at seven o'clock today. He's actually
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Speaker 1: better on no day's rest than he is on two
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Speaker 1: days rest or three days rest or four days rest
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Speaker 1: or five days res definitely five. Yeah, And so I
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Speaker 1: put a lot of it on Dan Ashley. I think
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Speaker 1: that he's not managing and you know what, shame on
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Speaker 1: andres that he's not better equipped to handle this he
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Speaker 1: should be at this point in his career. But I
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Speaker 1: also think that we do all of this number crunching
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Speaker 1: cons have all We have a phone book worth of
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Speaker 1: data that we hand over a manager at the beginning
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Speaker 1: of every game, pour over this data like never before
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Speaker 1: in the history of sports, and yet we can't figure
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Speaker 1: out a fundamental thing that the yahoo's down the road
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Speaker 1: on KJR have been telling you for two months. You
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Speaker 1: cannot let this guy go five six days without pitching
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Speaker 1: because he gets out of his rhythm. He's told you everybody,
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Speaker 1: He's told you, and yet we keep falling into the
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Speaker 1: same trap over and over and over. I'm tired of
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Speaker 1: our manager only using our closer when it's a safe situation.
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Speaker 1: It's driving. It's driven me up a wall. And for
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Speaker 1: those of you that thought I was going to come
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Speaker 1: on the air and backpedal on this a little bit
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Speaker 1: and have to admit, oh, well, we got to make
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Speaker 1: a change. No, yeah, we do have to make a change.
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Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about the manager position, but the
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Speaker 1: way he handles Munyos is what needs to change, not
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Speaker 1: Munyos well.
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Speaker 4: And it should say it in that telephone book of information, right,
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Speaker 4: I guarantee you it shows how poorly he does in
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Speaker 4: those exact situations.
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Speaker 3: But more importantly than that, as you mentioned, he has
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Speaker 3: said it himself.
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Speaker 4: You have to take the word of the person who
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Speaker 4: you are relying on to go into a situation and
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Speaker 4: what they are and aren't comfortable with. And if Munho
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Speaker 4: says I'm not pitching enough, then he's not pitching enough.
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Speaker 1: That's it.
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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter what your book says, but your book
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Speaker 3: could back it up. So you've got two things.
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Speaker 4: You've got your book that you really so heavily on
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Speaker 4: and you've got a person saying it from their actual mouth.
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Speaker 3: Use me more, use me mo, so use him more.
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Speaker 1: Okay. So here's the compromise on all of this. Let's
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Speaker 1: not treat him as a you're our only closer. Let's
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Speaker 1: do that if that's what okay, So some people want
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Speaker 1: him remove from the closer position. I don't want to
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Speaker 1: go that far because I think that when he's right
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Speaker 1: he's still our best guy, and I got the data
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Speaker 1: to prove that, which I will at seven oh five.
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Speaker 1: But if we don't have to use him as our
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Speaker 1: only closer, why can't this be the compromise? Why can't
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Speaker 1: he be used on Friday down two and then if
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Speaker 1: you don't want to use him the next day. Why
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Speaker 1: couldn't we have faith that Matt Brash could get a save,
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Speaker 1: or Jose Ferrer could get a save, or Gabe Spire
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Speaker 1: the way he's pitching right now game Spier's pitching better
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Speaker 1: than anybody out of our bullpen right now, why would
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Speaker 1: we think that they can't get a save? And so
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Speaker 1: how is that as a compromise, we will use Andres
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Speaker 1: Munjos in save situations, but he doesn't have to be
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Speaker 1: the only guy that gets us saves. And that way,
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Speaker 1: we can use Munyos in other ways during the course
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Speaker 1: of the game that don't necessarily reflect him getting a save.
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Speaker 1: I mean, all this analytics stuff that they did was
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Speaker 1: to point out that wins, we shouldn't be fighting for
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Speaker 1: a pitcher to get a win, and we shouldn't be
16:30
Speaker 1: fighting for a closer to get a save. Those statistics
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Speaker 1: in the big picture don't really tell the whole story
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Speaker 1: of how to win that actual game. That's what analytics
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Speaker 1: are driven by. And so we have an analytics driven organization,
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Speaker 1: and yet we have a manager that is still trying
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Speaker 1: to get his closer a save every time he takes
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Speaker 1: the field, and I think that that's silly. So I
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Speaker 1: think the compromise is in order to get him more
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Speaker 1: work that we don't worry if we want to use
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Speaker 1: him on a Friday and don't want to use him
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Speaker 1: on back to back days, which I think silly, Then
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Speaker 1: we don't worry that Munjos is not available for us
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Speaker 1: on Saturday because we used him to get some work
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Speaker 1: on Friday. Will use for Air, We'll use Brash the
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Speaker 1: next day, Will you Spire the next day? And so
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Speaker 1: I think that this organization right now, Dan and the
17:22
Speaker 1: front office are caught between the numbers and silly season
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Speaker 1: right now. And the end result is the mess that
17:30
Speaker 1: you created yesterday, because we haven't even talked about the
17:33
Speaker 1: Kriswell situation. What the f was that you had Bizardo
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Speaker 1: up and loose and ready to go, and then you
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Speaker 1: decided to wait un inning and then put Spire in
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Speaker 1: the game after Kriswell couldn't get anybody out in the step.
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Speaker 1: Use your best dude for them, help use Munos there
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Speaker 1: for goodness sake.
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Speaker 4: Well, especially because we know that these guys don't care
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Speaker 4: when they go in or what inning it is. They
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Speaker 4: just want to take care of bus when they go in.
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Speaker 1: You had Bizardo up, he was already ready, and they.
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Speaker 3: Got cute Well playing chess when they're playing checkers.
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Speaker 1: Well, Spire, we could say for the top of the order,
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Speaker 1: because that's when we want him in. And so let's
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Speaker 1: see if we can squeeze Kriswell even though Bizardo's already loose.
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Speaker 1: We'll we'll get Chriswell up. He'll face seven, eight, nine
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Speaker 1: in the order, and maybe we can steal three outs
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Speaker 1: and then have Spire face the top of the order,
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Speaker 1: and then we say Bizardo for and then we can
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Speaker 1: say Bizardo for tomorrow. And even if Chriswell can't get
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Speaker 1: those three guys out, then Spire comes in. Well, then
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Speaker 1: we'll say Bizardo for the eighth. And that's a total
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Speaker 1: waste of Spire, because now if Chriswell allows any traffic
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Speaker 1: at all, Spire comes in, he might only face one
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Speaker 1: batter because we refuse, do you use him in a
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Speaker 1: second inning after he's already been up. We don't like
19:03
Speaker 1: to let our relievers sit and then go back into
19:06
Speaker 1: the game. And that's a total waste of your best
19:09
Speaker 1: reliever right now. And gave Spire stop getting so cute
19:14
Speaker 1: with it. Put Bizarto in the damn game. He was
19:16
Speaker 1: ready to come into the game. Put him in the seventh,
19:19
Speaker 1: save Spire for the eighth, and Munjos for the ninth.
19:22
Speaker 1: What is wrong with that? And instead Munyos that comes
19:25
Speaker 1: in hasn't pitched in six days, and instead of having
19:28
Speaker 1: a four run lead at that point or a three
19:30
Speaker 1: run lead at that point, is dealing with a run
19:33
Speaker 1: run lead. And then he walks his first guy and
19:35
Speaker 1: you know it's, ah no, I don't have it. And
19:37
Speaker 1: he walks the second guy and even the hit wasn't
19:40
Speaker 1: that sound of a hit, but it found green grass
19:43
Speaker 1: and both runs score and you lose the baseball game.
19:48
Speaker 1: I mean, that was as botched as a three run
19:52
Speaker 1: lead in the seventh can be botched. And that's not
19:55
Speaker 1: all on Andre's Munos, some of it, but it's not
19:58
Speaker 1: all on Andre's moon well.
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Speaker 3: And definitely the parts that happened when he wasn't in
20:02
Speaker 3: the game. Definitely not on him.
20:04
Speaker 1: All right, let's find out what's on tap for the
20:06
Speaker 1: rest of the show. What's on tep? What's on tap?
20:13
Speaker 1: All right? Mariners do lose to the Tigers five to four.
20:16
Speaker 1: We'll go through some of the details with Mariners morning
20:19
Speaker 1: after coming up at six thirty this morning. Tigers take
20:23
Speaker 1: two out of three, so the Mariners leave Michigan with
20:26
Speaker 1: a thirty four and thirty two record. That's still good
20:29
Speaker 1: for first place in the American League West, but only
20:32
Speaker 1: a game and a half up on the Texas Rangers,
20:34
Speaker 1: who are playing better baseball right now. In case you
20:37
Speaker 1: haven't noticed, speaking of a team playing better baseball, the
20:40
Speaker 1: Baltimore Orioles have been playing a better brand of baseball lately.
20:43
Speaker 1: They are scoring a lot of runs recently, which is
20:47
Speaker 1: what they're designed to do. They got off to another
20:50
Speaker 1: terrible start this year, but they've battled their way back
20:53
Speaker 1: and into wild card contention. And that's where the Mariners
20:57
Speaker 1: will be tonight in Baltimore, Maryland, for a game series
21:01
Speaker 1: against a team that is smoking offensively right now. First
21:05
Speaker 1: pitch at three point thirty five. More on that later
21:07
Speaker 1: in the show as well. College World Series has already
21:11
Speaker 1: invited or accepted what six teams. Six teams are there,
21:16
Speaker 1: West Virginia, Troy, Ole, Miss, North Carolina, Georgia, and then
21:20
Speaker 1: last night, in a thriller, Texas came back one over
21:23
Speaker 1: Oregon to knock the Ducks out. And so six teams
21:28
Speaker 1: have their places in the eight team College World Series.
21:31
Speaker 1: They'll determine the other two today starting at eleven o'clock.
21:36
Speaker 1: Both Saint John's and Alabama and Kentucky, ECUMI, Kansas and
21:40
Speaker 1: Oklahoma had their games suspended because of weather. So they'll
21:43
Speaker 1: play a game and a half each of them today
21:46
Speaker 1: and they'll settle this and by the end of the
21:47
Speaker 1: day we will have our eight teams for the College
21:50
Speaker 1: World Series. It is World Cup week. It is here.
21:54
Speaker 3: Finally.
21:55
Speaker 1: I really don't know what to do about it. I
21:58
Speaker 1: don't know how to discuss it. I really don't know.
22:02
Speaker 1: I really don't know. Yeah, because I'm not gonna sit
22:04
Speaker 1: here and break down soccer camp.
22:06
Speaker 3: You can't do that.
22:07
Speaker 1: You don't want me to know.
22:08
Speaker 3: Nobody wants it that from either of us.
22:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't know how we're going to handle this,
22:11
Speaker 1: but we'll be talking soccer. I promise it's a big
22:15
Speaker 1: event here in Seattle. Starts on the eleventh, two sleeps
22:19
Speaker 1: away from the World Cup being here. Andrewshurst is weird
22:22
Speaker 1: about it.
22:23
Speaker 4: He joined us on Thursday and talked about it, which
22:27
Speaker 4: was fun to hear. We had a whole segment about it.
22:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, yeah, all right, Well just bear with us.
22:34
Speaker 1: NBA Finals Game three is tonight in New York City.
22:38
Speaker 1: The Knicks can go up three to zero on the Spurs.
22:40
Speaker 1: They'll tip that at five point thirty. We'll certainly discuss
22:43
Speaker 1: that later in the show. Stanley Cup Final they're saying
22:45
Speaker 1: this is the most thrilling Stanley Cup Final ever. Game
22:49
Speaker 1: four will be tomorrow night, and it'll be in Las Vegas,
22:53
Speaker 1: where the Knights can go up three to one on Carolina.
22:56
Speaker 1: Speaking of Las Vegas, the Storm are in Las Vegas tonight,
23:00
Speaker 1: so maybe they can take in some hockey tomorrow.
23:02
Speaker 3: I'd be probably more fun than playing the Aces.
23:05
Speaker 1: Seven o'clock start there. Meanwhile, Caitland Clark, the controversial Caitland Clark,
23:09
Speaker 1: also playing tonight at Washington. They'll tip that at four o'clock.
23:13
Speaker 1: Seahawks OTA's ended yes last week, but pretty much the
23:18
Speaker 1: Seahawks one series has just begun, will continue it today
23:21
Speaker 1: and throughout the month of June. One analyst breaking down
23:23
Speaker 1: one key Seahawk player for one entire interview. Today, podcaster
23:29
Speaker 1: friend handsome globe trotter Jackson Bevans will join us on
23:35
Speaker 1: the program at eight o'clock and we'll find out which
23:38
Speaker 1: Seahawk key wants to break down for one entire interview.
23:41
Speaker 1: Coming up next, Mariners Morning After Sports Radio ninety three
23:44
Speaker 1: point three KJRFM. If it was like the year twenty
23:47
Speaker 1: sixty five and you really were like robot Ashley Ryan,
23:50
Speaker 1: who has an age, that's the reason you haven't aged. Yeah,
23:54
Speaker 1: but our water dispenser will still give us warm water. Yeah.
23:58
Speaker 3: Probably, some things aren't meant to be changed.
24:02
Speaker 1: I could come back fifty years later and that thing
24:04
Speaker 1: would still not function. Good morning to you all, great
24:09
Speaker 1: to be with you. Sorry we're running a little bit late.
24:12
Speaker 1: It caught me off guard too, But let's get to
24:15
Speaker 1: Mariners Morning After. We do have a loss to discuss.
24:18
Speaker 1: The MS trying to take two out of three from
24:21
Speaker 1: the Detroit Tigers yesterday, and well damn it, they should have.
24:25
Speaker 1: They led for the most of the game. The entirety
24:29
Speaker 1: of the game. Frankly took a one nothing lead early on,
24:33
Speaker 1: Detroit didn't come back to tie it at one, but
24:36
Speaker 1: then in the sixth, a two run inning for the Mariners.
24:39
Speaker 1: They were up four to one. At one point Luis
24:41
Speaker 1: Castillo seemed to be cruising. The bullpen should have been
24:45
Speaker 1: completely rested. I mean, I guess Matt Brash can only
24:49
Speaker 1: pitch once every millennium, but you should have added, you know,
24:53
Speaker 1: your guys good to go to close out a three
24:57
Speaker 1: run lead. And instead, Dan Wilson opted for Cooper Criswell
25:02
Speaker 1: in the seventh instead of Bizardo, who was loose and
25:05
Speaker 1: ready to go, and he ends up not getting out
25:08
Speaker 1: and then a single batter out of the three that
25:10
Speaker 1: he faced. So the Tigers cut into the lead in
25:13
Speaker 1: the bottom of the seventh to make it four to three.
25:16
Speaker 1: It would remain that way until the ninth Andres Munos,
25:19
Speaker 1: who we haven't seen since nineteen fifty five, then came
25:23
Speaker 1: out of the dugout to try to close things out
25:26
Speaker 1: for the Mariners, and he just did not have his
25:28
Speaker 1: good stuff, and you could tell pretty early on two
25:33
Speaker 1: wild wild walks put runners on. Then they ended up
25:37
Speaker 1: at second and third, and you had two outs, you
25:41
Speaker 1: were one out away. But here came Detroit, their red
25:45
Speaker 1: hot rookie Kevin McGonagall and Andres Munnos trying to close
25:50
Speaker 1: it out for the Mariners by drive and it's right
25:54
Speaker 1: off the Young's glove. But kiss Tree in Perez come
25:58
Speaker 1: at home, the Tigers get off. Aaron Goldsmith on the
26:04
Speaker 1: call Mariners television. Yes, the Tigers do walk it off
26:08
Speaker 1: for a five to four victory that frankly they should
26:11
Speaker 1: have never had. Andre's Munos blows his fifth save this season,
26:16
Speaker 1: so obviously he's not having a good year to this point.
26:20
Speaker 1: Maybe not as bad as it looks on the surface.
26:24
Speaker 1: We're going to discuss that more at seven o five.
26:28
Speaker 1: But this was just not a game that you should
26:30
Speaker 1: have blown, and blown it as exactly what happened. Yeah,
26:35
Speaker 1: in this contest. Here is Dan Wilson after the game
26:38
Speaker 1: gets up.
26:38
Speaker 2: Way to lose his series. You know, the walkouts were
26:40
Speaker 2: always difficult. I thought lewing through the ball extremely well.
26:44
Speaker 2: Again today, just the way he mixed the heater was
26:49
Speaker 2: was outstanding. I thought both his heaters were outstanding, and
26:52
Speaker 2: you know there's a good change ups.
26:54
Speaker 1: Slider was working.
26:55
Speaker 6: I thought, you know, I had things well under control,
26:57
Speaker 6: really kept that prettyquil I had there for the time
27:01
Speaker 6: he was out there, and uh, you know a lot
27:03
Speaker 6: of our offense to get going a little bit, and
27:06
Speaker 6: they did.
27:07
Speaker 1: You know, getting some.
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Speaker 5: Runs early was big, and uh, you know, being able
27:12
Speaker 5: to add on there towards the end, get that board
27:14
Speaker 5: run this huge.
27:15
Speaker 1: And and uh and then the lip the bullpen. You know,
27:17
Speaker 1: I thought through the ball well, just.
27:20
Speaker 7: Gave up a couple there at the end. And you know,
27:23
Speaker 7: it's it's tough there when you when you lose that
27:27
Speaker 7: kind of a game. But you know, the guys I
27:29
Speaker 7: thought fought extremely hard today and and you know it's
27:33
Speaker 7: it's a tough one to come out on the.
27:34
Speaker 5: End of because you know they they played hard.
27:37
Speaker 1: Dan, what did you see that was going on with
27:39
Speaker 1: Mooney there in the night?
27:40
Speaker 5: Yeah, it just looked like, you know, the command wasn't there,
27:44
Speaker 5: and and you know I couldn't seem to find it,
27:46
Speaker 5: you know, uh, with with a couple of hitters and
27:49
Speaker 5: you know, as we know, walks can be can can.
27:51
Speaker 1: Hurt and those you know, those two came around to
27:54
Speaker 1: hurt it. But you know, it looked like just have
27:58
Speaker 1: a hard time finding the command. Man, it really is
28:03
Speaker 1: just a script and it doesn't even matter if it
28:05
Speaker 1: applies to the game we just.
28:07
Speaker 3: Watched because the bullpen came out and pitched really well.
28:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what he just said.
28:14
Speaker 3: Were we watching the same game?
28:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he thinks that like, oh wait, that
28:17
Speaker 1: was part of the script. Oh yeah, they didn't except
28:20
Speaker 1: for a couple of things. Yeah, except for like, yeah,
28:24
Speaker 1: except for blowing the game. They blew the game, right,
28:27
Speaker 1: that was on the bullpen. So yeah, I don't know.
28:30
Speaker 1: I'm not sitting here saying that you got to call
28:32
Speaker 1: some Kriswell out and say Munio's cross. Obviously we're not
28:36
Speaker 1: saying suggesting that. But we could stop short of saying
28:40
Speaker 1: the bullpen was great.
28:41
Speaker 3: You could be.
28:42
Speaker 4: Honest and just say the bullpen struggled today. I mean
28:45
Speaker 4: even that would be more real.
28:47
Speaker 1: And it wasn't just the bullpen, and it wasn't just
28:50
Speaker 1: I didn't like I didn't like the way Dan managed
28:53
Speaker 1: the game yesterday. That's nothing new for me. But the
28:59
Speaker 1: team played slow, they didn't finish. You know, we scored
29:02
Speaker 1: our four runs. That should be enough. We're done. You know,
29:06
Speaker 1: you can keep scoring. You don't have to stop. You
29:09
Speaker 1: don't have to keep it close. You could keep scoring
29:11
Speaker 1: to idiotic base running blunders by Oh not necessarily, I
29:17
Speaker 1: would take that back. Naylor is always trying to read
29:21
Speaker 1: the situation right, and he just left a fraction too early.
29:26
Speaker 1: Will Vess just held onto the ball and he thought
29:28
Speaker 1: he had him read and his move read and everything.
29:31
Speaker 1: He does that all the time, So we can't get
29:33
Speaker 1: angry when it does cost him a Rose Arena though,
29:37
Speaker 1: getting caught off the bag, you know, especially after Naylor
29:41
Speaker 1: just got picked off, maybe that's not a great look.
29:46
Speaker 1: Maybe losing two base runners in back to back.
29:51
Speaker 3: Hitters, maybe we just avoid that in the future.
29:53
Speaker 1: You know, three for eleven is not terrible with the
29:56
Speaker 1: runners in scoring position. But again, there were so many
29:59
Speaker 1: other opportunities hit him eleven to six. There were so
30:02
Speaker 1: many other opportunities to pull away in this game, so
30:05
Speaker 1: that played a hand in it. Also, challenges continue to
30:09
Speaker 1: be challenging. Las Diaz was terrible yesterday, terrible behind the plate,
30:17
Speaker 1: and yet we still somehow go I think, oh for two.
30:21
Speaker 3: I think one right on right, one for three.
30:24
Speaker 1: In our challenges yesterday, and then we're operating the bullpens,
30:30
Speaker 1: operating without the ability to challenge Farrer had Riley Green
30:33
Speaker 1: struck out and we can't challenge, and that could have
30:36
Speaker 1: blown up. The game could have blown up right there
30:38
Speaker 1: with Ferrera's inning. But we didn't have the opportunity to
30:41
Speaker 1: challenge in the seventh because Randy rose Arena had to
30:44
Speaker 1: challenge a one on one pitch early on in the contest.
30:47
Speaker 1: That meant nothing and he was wrong about it. Well,
30:51
Speaker 1: it just I mean, it was just that was just.
30:53
Speaker 1: It wasn't just Munnos, It wasn't just Dan. That was
30:57
Speaker 1: a full scale own baseball game that you should have
31:02
Speaker 1: never lost, period.
31:03
Speaker 3: I would agree with that.
31:05
Speaker 4: Yeah, they should have played better in a lot of ways,
31:08
Speaker 4: including the bullpen.
31:10
Speaker 1: Sorry Dan, but yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry to correct you.
31:14
Speaker 3: But I will say I was impressed with Castile, so
31:17
Speaker 3: he I'll give him that. Ye.
31:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, the piggyback thing is.
31:20
Speaker 3: Clearly it's solved something going for him.
31:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, we'll talk more about the Mariners. We're
31:26
Speaker 1: going to talk a lot of baseball today. As a
31:28
Speaker 1: matter of fact, coming up later on in the show,
31:31
Speaker 1: we'll let you know that they start a series tonight
31:33
Speaker 1: in Baltimore against the Orioles. It will be Emerson Hancock
31:36
Speaker 1: going against Chris Bassett. Bassett a veteran right hander that
31:39
Speaker 1: pretty much this entire lineup, with the exception of Colt
31:42
Speaker 1: Emerson knows and his scene before, and he's not having
31:45
Speaker 1: a very good year and he's right handed. All the
31:48
Speaker 1: elements for a productive offensive evening tonight. Let's go in Baltimore,
31:53
Speaker 1: all right? Coming up next though on the program, something
31:55
Speaker 1: that I heard Ashley and company talking about what with
32:00
Speaker 1: out me the last couple of shows, and appropriately so
32:05
Speaker 1: because I went away on in on this topic before
32:08
Speaker 1: we get too far away from it. Sports Radio ninety
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Speaker 1: three point three KJRFM, All right, headlines coming out of
32:21
Speaker 1: the top of the hour, plus more on Andre Simunos
32:24
Speaker 1: and also Cal Raleigh, who was in Everett, Washington yesterday
32:30
Speaker 1: much to the delight of Everett, Washington.
32:33
Speaker 3: And it was Mill Creek Elementary's night at the game.
32:37
Speaker 3: We couldn't go, but boy was Palmer bumm that we
32:39
Speaker 3: couldn't go when she found out because they planned that
32:42
Speaker 3: forever ago. All those kids got like thirteen dollars tickets
32:44
Speaker 3: and they'd have to go watch Cal.
32:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, how about that? Yeah, he had a hit. First pitch,
32:49
Speaker 1: he flew out deep to ray field, looked pretty good set. Afterwards,
32:52
Speaker 1: I felt pretty good. He's going to make his next
32:55
Speaker 1: appearance Tuesday in Tacoma, and he will actually catch in
32:58
Speaker 1: that game. He dh last night, so we'll talk more
33:01
Speaker 1: about that later on in the show. But I mean,
33:03
Speaker 1: it's hard to imagine a world where Cal Raley's not
33:06
Speaker 1: going to be beloved. You know, he's having a rough year,
33:11
Speaker 1: and he's had injuries this year. He's just been a
33:13
Speaker 1: bad year for Cal. Last year was a year of Cal.
33:15
Speaker 1: This has been a bad year for Cal the baseball player.
33:18
Speaker 1: But it's hard to imagine a world where he's not
33:20
Speaker 1: always going to be beloved here in Seattle. But when
33:23
Speaker 1: I moved here, it was hard to imagine that Russell
33:25
Speaker 1: Wilson was not going to be beloved throughout the rest
33:28
Speaker 1: of his life here in Seattle. We did not see
33:31
Speaker 1: what was coming. But I do know how much you
33:34
Speaker 1: know you didn't. I didn't come into town boy. People
33:36
Speaker 1: wanted to slap my dirty mouth for even suggesting one
33:41
Speaker 1: negative thing about Russell Wilson. But there were some things
33:44
Speaker 1: under that were bubbling underneath the surface. And certainly we
33:48
Speaker 1: found out a few things about the way the treatment
33:53
Speaker 1: was different for him, and that it caused a little
33:55
Speaker 1: bit of a rift, and so on and so forth.
33:57
Speaker 1: But here in the last few years, man, just there's
34:02
Speaker 1: just been obviously sort of a breakup that has taken
34:05
Speaker 1: place the moment that Russ sort of celebrated leaving Seattle
34:09
Speaker 1: so mightily, and there's been just a bit of a
34:12
Speaker 1: breakup and maybe a little bit of a haha, that's
34:15
Speaker 1: what you get sort of attitude. But as he announced
34:18
Speaker 1: his retirement, and I heard you and Dick Fane talking
34:20
Speaker 1: about it, and I agree, I think picked up what
34:24
Speaker 1: you both were putting down. I understand the frustration here.
34:28
Speaker 1: I think that a few things got exposed about Russell's
34:31
Speaker 1: game in the later stages of his career, even while
34:35
Speaker 1: he was here. I think that what Russell should have
34:39
Speaker 1: learned is that whole let Russ Cook thing might have
34:42
Speaker 1: been his undoing. He was reading his own press clippings
34:46
Speaker 1: that was going wild. He thought he was being, you know,
34:49
Speaker 1: denied his true greatness by Pete being so careful with him. Offensively,
34:56
Speaker 1: He had new people in his life that were telling
34:58
Speaker 1: him he was much better then they were allowing him
35:02
Speaker 1: to be, maybe that Seattle was allowing him to be.
35:06
Speaker 1: And he ends up falling on his face and so
35:10
Speaker 1: unceremonious departure by once beloved Seattle Seahawk sports legend. And
35:18
Speaker 1: then he tasted it. He got to taste it for
35:21
Speaker 1: a number of years, and he probably is never going
35:23
Speaker 1: to get into the Hall of Fame. But I do believe,
35:26
Speaker 1: and this is kind of what I wanted to bring up.
35:28
Speaker 1: I do believe with time that Russell will feel love
35:33
Speaker 1: again from Seattle, and Seattle sports fans will remember more
35:38
Speaker 1: good times than bad with Russell, and I think that
35:40
Speaker 1: there still will be a good, healthy relationship someday. It
35:44
Speaker 1: just isn't right now, but I think that someday he
35:47
Speaker 1: will recover in the hearts and minds of Seattle sports
35:51
Speaker 1: fans and they will remember all of the really good
35:54
Speaker 1: things that he did here. Yeah.
35:55
Speaker 4: One of the questions that I asked Dick and Travis
35:57
Speaker 4: was do you think that his career was ledgy?
36:01
Speaker 3: And I didn't think it was.
36:02
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
36:04
Speaker 4: Dick said that he did think it was, and I
36:05
Speaker 4: do think Seattle wise, Yeah, as a Seattle sports legend,
36:09
Speaker 4: he is a Seattle sports legend.
36:11
Speaker 3: What he did here was great, It was excellent. I
36:14
Speaker 3: would not call it legendary.
36:16
Speaker 1: I would not either. I would not, And I don't
36:18
Speaker 1: think he's going to make the Hall of Fame.
36:20
Speaker 3: I don't either.
36:20
Speaker 1: And I think that him having been exposed when given
36:24
Speaker 1: the keys to the car, like when it was finally, hey,
36:27
Speaker 1: you no longer have the greatest defense in the world.
36:30
Speaker 1: You no longer have Marshaun Lynch in the backfield. And
36:32
Speaker 1: he had really good moments, really good moment very good moments.
36:37
Speaker 1: He well, he certainly had great moments at times, but
36:40
Speaker 1: I don't think that he achieved Hall of Fame status.
36:44
Speaker 2: No.
36:45
Speaker 1: Really good career, very good career, but hall of Fame career.
36:49
Speaker 1: I I don't think I go that far. And I
36:51
Speaker 1: think him being exposed his last couple of years here
36:55
Speaker 1: and then in Denver where he was sure it was
36:57
Speaker 1: Seattle's fault, why his game was and then he just
37:01
Speaker 1: completely fell on his face in Denver, I think it's
37:04
Speaker 1: going to keep him from the Hall. But I do
37:06
Speaker 1: hope for him and for Seattle sports fans that you
37:09
Speaker 1: do end up remembering him fondly and end up the
37:13
Speaker 1: relationship gets repaired and that he's on the Ring of
37:16
Speaker 1: Honor and everything else, and that it all ends well
37:20
Speaker 1: because it was at one point a very great relationship.
37:23
Speaker 1: All right, Coming up next Andres Munos, also headlines We're
37:27
Speaker 1: not going to talk to Andres Munyos, We're just going
37:29
Speaker 1: to talk about Andre's munios. Sports Radio ninety three point
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Speaker 1: three KJRFM