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BRITNEY SPEARS BIZARRE CLAIM HER 'LOOKALIKE' SWERVES INTO ONCOMING TRAFFIC, BIKE PATH IN VIRAL VIDEO AMID FEARS SHE'S 'LOSING CONTROL' · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Britney Spears's bizarre claim her
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  Speaker 1: look alike her doppelganger is the one not her that
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  Speaker 1: swerves into oncoming traffic onto a bike path as well,
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  Speaker 1: and video that has now gone viral. This I mean
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  Speaker 1: it's fears she is losing control. I'm Nancy Grace. This
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  Speaker 1: is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for being
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  Speaker 1: with us.
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  Speaker 2: Pop Icon.
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  Speaker 3: Britney Spears was spotted and enjoying a night out in Westley, California,
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  Speaker 3: seeking a fun evening with friends. However, the evening took
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  Speaker 3: a dramatic turn when paparazzi captured her in what appeared
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  Speaker 3: to be a reckless act.
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  Speaker 1: Is it real that looks like Britney Spears to me?
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  Speaker 1: What happened? Listen?
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  Speaker 4: Britney Spears behavior spiraling out of control and family seriously
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  Speaker 4: considering nuclear option. An interview to put a stop to
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  Speaker 4: the slide, as ex husband Kevin Fetterline releases book You
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  Speaker 4: Thought You Knew About Fighting Brittany for his children. Britney
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  Speaker 4: is captured on video at upscale restaurant Red Oh, looking sloppy,
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  Speaker 4: her yellow top slipping off her shoulders, dropping items on
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  Speaker 4: the floor. Unsteady on her feet and wobble's lifting her
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  Speaker 4: glass as if to toast the entire restaurant.
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  Speaker 1: Number one, I don't like it when mail reporters and
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  Speaker 1: others describe women as looking sloppy. Somehow that's misogynistic. But
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  Speaker 1: that's a whole other cannon worms. I'll get to in
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  Speaker 1: a moment. Right now, I'm concerned about Britney Spears potentially
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  Speaker 1: driving into oncoming traffic. Listen.
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  Speaker 3: Leaving the restaurant, Britney struggles maintaining her balance as a
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  Speaker 3: friend holds her hand and guiding her outside. Brittany gets
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  Speaker 3: behind the wheel of her black BMW despite protests from
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  Speaker 3: restaurant employees trying to prevent her from.
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  Speaker 4: Driving, driving erradically, ignoring road signs, squealing her tires as
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  Speaker 4: she makes a U turn against the posted no U
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  Speaker 4: turn sign. Britney speeds away from the restaurant. She has
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  Speaker 4: trouble maintaining her lane, swerving under the shoulder and crossing
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  Speaker 4: the center line into oncoming traffic.
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  Speaker 1: With us an all Star panel to make sense of
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  Speaker 1: what we are learning tonight, straight out to Jessica Fan,
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  Speaker 1: Senior investigative reporter, You has son, Jessica, what happened exactly.
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  Speaker 1: I know Brittany is now saying that wasn't me. So
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  Speaker 1: should I believe her or my lion eyes? That looks
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  Speaker 1: like Brittany to me. Let's see the video again, while
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  Speaker 1: Jessica's reporting.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, sure does look like Brittany. I mean, I think
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  Speaker 5: it's pretty She's pretty recognizable at this point in her life.
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  Speaker 5: And unfortunately it's not for all the good reasons or
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  Speaker 5: the right reasons. Brittany was at the restaurant, clearly having
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  Speaker 5: a good time, partying it up, stumbling around, she was
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  Speaker 5: raising a glass at the restaurant, and then we see
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  Speaker 5: her actually getting into her car. And this is where
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  Speaker 5: things get a little pretty scary and dicey, for not
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  Speaker 5: only Brittany, but for anybody else it might be coming
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  Speaker 5: into contact with her on the road to Flipsy. You
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  Speaker 5: turn in front of the restaurant after exiting, and then
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  Speaker 5: she continues to drive, and the paparazzi who are following her,
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  Speaker 5: you can hear them kind of quietly saying keep your distance.
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  Speaker 5: And I think that that's not only to not scare her,
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  Speaker 5: but also for their own safety. She's driving down the road,
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  Speaker 5: She's driving on a really dark roadway. The only lights
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  Speaker 5: on in front of her are her own lights, and
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  Speaker 5: she's crossing the middle line, and then she's swerving into
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  Speaker 5: the shoulder, and at one point she actually almost ends
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  Speaker 5: up in the dirt on the shoulder, which is super
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  Speaker 5: scary because then she could have totally spun out.
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  Speaker 1: At that point, we also.
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  Speaker 5: See her actually not only in the central line, but
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  Speaker 5: riding in the central line where oncoming traffic would be.
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  Speaker 6: We also see her.
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  Speaker 5: Riding down those reflector strips, and those reflector strips are
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  Speaker 5: meant to alert the driver that there's danger, that they're
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  Speaker 5: crossing into lanes that they shouldn't be in. And I
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  Speaker 5: don't understand how she doesn't. She's not shaken, you know,
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  Speaker 5: or made more aware of this. She seems to continue
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  Speaker 5: to drive on those reflector bumps, despite despite being in them.
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  Speaker 5: And it's just it's a really terrifying scene. And again,
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  Speaker 5: just this isn't just Brittany who's in danger here. It's
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  Speaker 5: anybody else that's on the road with her.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I've covered and investigated and prosecuted vehicular homicides,
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  Speaker 1: and it could be the result of anything. It could
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  Speaker 1: be drunk driving, driving under the influence of drugs. It
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  Speaker 1: could be distracted driving, texting while driving, looking in the
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  Speaker 1: backseat while driving, putting on makeup while driving. I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: Now Spears' camp has made a point to say that
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  Speaker 1: was not her in the video and she was not drinking.
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  Speaker 1: I would give that statement more credence if they just
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  Speaker 1: said she wasn't drinking, because that is absolutely Britney Spears
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  Speaker 1: in that video. There is her bizarre claim if anyone's
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  Speaker 1: wondering to look alike, was not me? Dave Mack tell
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  Speaker 1: me about the driving antics, the erratic driving in a
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  Speaker 1: video that has now gone viral. What specifically happened with
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  Speaker 1: the driving.
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  Speaker 7: Nancy?
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  Speaker 4: As she pulls out, there's a clearly marked sign saying
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  Speaker 4: no U turn, which she just pulls a UI anyway
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  Speaker 4: and then squeals her tires as if to pick up
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  Speaker 4: speed even quicker. So she's already right off the bat,
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  Speaker 4: going dangerous. But then she really has trouble maintaining her lane.
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  Speaker 4: It's not just once or twice, it's constant. She is
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  Speaker 4: never in the lane the way she's supposed to be,
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  Speaker 4: and it's been pointed out as you watch the video,
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  Speaker 4: it's darker. She seems to be the only car on
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  Speaker 4: the road. But you know, if she hit that shoulder
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  Speaker 4: and tried to overcorrect, you know what happens. The dirt
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  Speaker 4: gets under the wheel, she loses control and we had
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  Speaker 4: a mess. But she never is actually maintaining her lane.
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  Speaker 4: She's constantly crossing the center line, which poses problems for
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  Speaker 4: anybody because if she is that out of control, if
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  Speaker 4: another car comes along at the wrong time, We're not
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  Speaker 4: doing this story about her life going down the toilet.
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  Speaker 4: We're actually going to be doing a story with her obituary.
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  Speaker 1: The hit your homicide. That's not what we want for
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  Speaker 1: Britney Spears. But let me ask you, Dave mac you've
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  Speaker 1: never pulled a yui? Are you really going to go
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  Speaker 1: on national TV and say that you've never done a
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  Speaker 1: U turn?
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  Speaker 4: Only pointing out that, hey, this is a woman who
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  Speaker 4: is recognized.
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  Speaker 1: Around the world.
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  Speaker 4: Her ex husband has just released a book about his
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  Speaker 4: life with her, and she acts like she's having to
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  Speaker 4: run away from paparazzi, which she really isn't Nancy, When
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  Speaker 4: you see the video, you know she's not surrounded with
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  Speaker 4: just bulbs going off everywhere. She has no reason to
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  Speaker 4: do something like that. But again, you know, it's you
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  Speaker 4: got people watching your every move. This is this really
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  Speaker 4: the image you want to put out there for everyone
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  Speaker 4: in the entire world?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, you know what dat did I ask you about
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  Speaker 1: Britney Spears image? No, I asked you had you ever
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  Speaker 1: pulled a giwie? And you kind of stuttered? So yes,
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  Speaker 1: you have. Stuttering is a sign of lyne. Then you
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  Speaker 1: go on about Fetterline. I don't want to hear about
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  Speaker 1: Kevin Federline. He's had his fifteen minutes if iman. That
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  Speaker 1: was a long time ago when he married her, before
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  Speaker 1: he started sucking her blood. Now, the minute child support ends,
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  Speaker 1: he writes a tell all book trashing the mother of
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  Speaker 1: his children. I think that's enoughset about him. So you're
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  Speaker 1: talking about image. Let's go to a PR duru, Rob Shooter,
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  Speaker 1: star of Naughty but Nice podcast. Rob has a brand
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  Speaker 1: new book out called It Started with a Whisper and
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  Speaker 1: it's selling out on Amazon. He has worked with Britney Spears.
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  Speaker 1: So Rob, are we seeing Brittany the way we want
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  Speaker 1: to see her or the way she really is?
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  Speaker 7: I've known her for over twenty years. I worked in
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  Speaker 7: a PR office handle Brittany. I've been on many red
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  Speaker 7: carpets with Brittany, events with Brittany. I've been a photo
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  Speaker 7: shoots with Britney Spears. She's always been a troubled young person,
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  Speaker 7: and I think Britney hasn't changed so much in my opinion,
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  Speaker 7: but rather the truth has come out. The image the
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  Speaker 7: person that we were sold by the record company wasn't
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  Speaker 7: the real Brittany. It was a more polished version, which
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  Speaker 7: is often the case with celebrities. You hire publicists and
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  Speaker 7: managers and agents to put forward an image, your view
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  Speaker 7: that you want. But I don't think in all the
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  Speaker 7: years I've worked as celebrities, have I seen somebody that
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  Speaker 7: has been so different in reality than their public image.
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  Speaker 7: Brittany hasn't changed. This is the real Brittany. Now are
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  Speaker 7: finally all getting to see it.
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  Speaker 1: Rob Shooter at PR Guru's side, stepping the question beautifully. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: let's get to what's happening right now. Not Britney's image
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  Speaker 1: and the damage to it, but is she spiraling out
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  Speaker 1: of control? Is there another conservatorship on the horizon. We
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  Speaker 1: also have her denial that this is her, Well it
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  Speaker 1: is her, so, Rob Sheeter, Britney Spears claims the person
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  Speaker 1: at the restaurant and driving is a doppleganger a look alike?
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  Speaker 1: Is it?
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  Speaker 7: This is Britney Spears. Brittany's had a long, really unfortunate
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  Speaker 7: history with the truth, and often Britney can say things
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  Speaker 7: and really believe it herself. Deep down, I'm sure she
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  Speaker 7: knows what's really going on, but it does a lot
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  Speaker 7: easier here to blame somebody else than to take any responsibility.
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  Speaker 7: And even though Brittany has struggled deeply, this is just
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  Speaker 7: another example of why Britney so desperately needs somebody to
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  Speaker 7: step in. It's impossible for Brittany to admit the truth
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  Speaker 7: to herself. In fact, I would argue.
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  Speaker 1: She doesn't even believe his lyings.
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  Speaker 7: She believes the liars.
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  Speaker 1: Crime stores with Nancy Gray rob Sheeter. I would be
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  Speaker 1: more willing to accept her camps claim that she hadn't
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  Speaker 1: been drinking, but they couple that with saying that wasn't her.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, Brittany said it herself that it was a
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  Speaker 1: quote look alike. That's Britney Spears right there. So the
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  Speaker 1: manager at the restaurant says she was not intoxicated, but
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  Speaker 1: the video does show her on steady on her seat.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think, yeah.
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  Speaker 7: It doesn't matter. I think at the end of the
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  Speaker 7: day here legally it might matter. But this is clearly
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  Speaker 7: somebody that's out of control, and somebody was dangerous, not
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  Speaker 7: just to herself but to other people, anybody else driving
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  Speaker 7: like that in California or anywhere else. If they were stopped,
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  Speaker 7: if they were spotted by the police, there would be
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  Speaker 7: huge implications. And said, this video, I'm told is just
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  Speaker 7: the tip of the iceberg. People that know Brittany, that
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  Speaker 7: have worked with her, that have seen her out, have
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  Speaker 7: always described this to me as a rat. This is
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  Speaker 7: not somebody that is stable. And even though the manager
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  Speaker 7: of the bar, the restaurants claims that they were not drinking,
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  Speaker 7: Britain was not drinking. We've seen the video of this.
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  Speaker 7: Clearly something going on.
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  Speaker 1: Well, clearly you cannot prove a do UI without having
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  Speaker 1: a blood test or an alcohol sobriety test or a
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  Speaker 1: blow test where you blow into a breathalyzer test. So
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  Speaker 1: we don't know. And if she did have one glass
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  Speaker 1: of wine, that may not make her a do UI.
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  Speaker 1: If it's combined with any sort of medication, then you've
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  Speaker 1: got a whole another can of worms. We're talking to
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  Speaker 1: Rob Shooter, host of Naughty but Nice podcast, author of
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  Speaker 1: a hit novel It started with a whisper, and he
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  Speaker 1: has worked with spears. You know, I'm very curious. Do
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  Speaker 1: you believe Rob Shooter that there is any way her
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  Speaker 1: family would now help her? Would they touch her with
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  Speaker 1: a ten foot poll? After the way her father was vilified,
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  Speaker 1: wrongly or rightfully regarding that draconian conservatorship that he was
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  Speaker 1: in charge of with his daughter. Will the family help her?
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  Speaker 8: Rob?
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  Speaker 7: My reporting is the family won't touch this. They saw
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  Speaker 7: what happened to Britney's father, who was crucified in the media,
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  Speaker 7: in the press, the fans absolutely how did this man
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  Speaker 7: for really save in his daughter's life? And so I
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  Speaker 7: think we all have a lot of soul search in
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  Speaker 7: thinking to do here. We all wanted Brittany to be free,
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  Speaker 7: but without ever thinking about what does that actually look like?
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  Speaker 7: What does that actually mean? And a free Brittany is
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  Speaker 7: a very dangerous one and so it's clear she needs
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  Speaker 7: some help. The problem is now is who's going to
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  Speaker 7: provide that knowing what happens to the last person that did.
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  Speaker 7: Her dad was crucified. She had a legal team beat
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  Speaker 7: him up day after day after day. Nobody in the
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  Speaker 7: family wants to go through that again. They all want
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  Speaker 7: to help Brittany, but they're all scared, and I honestly
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  Speaker 7: I don't blame.
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  Speaker 1: Them straight out to special guests joining us tonight. You
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  Speaker 1: know him well as we all do, Perez Hilton. He
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  Speaker 1: is a pop culture expert. He blogs. He's a columnist,
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  Speaker 1: co host of the Perez Hilton podcast, author of TMI
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  Speaker 1: My Life in Scandal, and a children's book, The Boy
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  Speaker 1: with Pink Hair, and you can find him at Perez
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  Speaker 1: Hilton dot com. Prez, it's great to see you again.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us tonight. Thanks for having me, Perez.
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  Speaker 1: Britney spears. You know I was at the forefront fighting
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  Speaker 1: to free Britney, and as Oscar Will said, be careful
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  Speaker 1: what you ask, my dear, for you will surely get it.
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  Speaker 1: I still think it was right to get her out
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  Speaker 1: from under the conservatorship, but there was no transition. She
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  Speaker 1: went from total draconian control of her life too wild
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  Speaker 1: and free and it is not working out. Tell me
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  Speaker 1: about the latest incident, Perez.
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  Speaker 6: Well, the very latest.
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  Speaker 2: There's an update, since perhaps some of your viewers heard
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  Speaker 2: that Britney. According to reports was seen driving erradically in
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  Speaker 2: the Thousand Oaks area of Los Angeles, where she lives.
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  Speaker 2: The paparazzi got her going to a local restaurant there and,
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  Speaker 2: according to reports, having a glass of wine. However, we've
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  Speaker 2: now heard from the manager of that restaurant, whom, according
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  Speaker 2: to him, denies that Britney Spears was intoxicated. She was
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  Speaker 2: not there by herself. She was accompanied by a female
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  Speaker 2: friend and a fellow patron at the restaurant was the
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  Speaker 2: one who bought Britney that drink, and she was very friendly.
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  Speaker 6: Listen.
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  Speaker 2: I know a lot about Britney Spears. I have a
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  Speaker 2: lot of empathy for her. She's never been a good driver,
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  Speaker 2: and you might ask yourself why is she even driving.
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  Speaker 6: She does have a security team.
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  Speaker 2: An entire detail, But for some reason, Brittany, while not
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  Speaker 2: being the best driver, has always loved to drive. I
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  Speaker 2: remember vividly before she was placed on that psychiatric hold,
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  Speaker 2: her life was so chaotic leading up to that, she
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  Speaker 2: would sometimes drive in her car after her kids were
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  Speaker 2: already taken away from her, and she would just drive
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  Speaker 2: around town for hours. There's something that she finds healing
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  Speaker 2: about it, and thankfully nobody was hurt, and I can't
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  Speaker 2: prove that she was drunker or incapacitated in any way.
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  Speaker 1: I understand that going for long drives in your car
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  Speaker 1: can be a source of freedom or independence because you're
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  Speaker 1: totally in control. Pre Hilton, you have three amazing children,
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  Speaker 1: right How would you like to see Britney Spears come
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  Speaker 1: buryling the wrong way down the street at you with
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  Speaker 1: your children in the back. Think about that for a moment.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not all hung up on did she drink the
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  Speaker 1: glass of wine? Look in my world just because I
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  Speaker 1: think somebody's DUI, I can't take that to a jerry.
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  Speaker 1: I've got to have evidence proof. I've got to have
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  Speaker 1: blood alcohol I've got to have a sobriety test. I've
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  Speaker 1: got to have a blow test. If I don't have those,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't exist. If I can't prove it, it's not real.
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  Speaker 1: What I can prove is that video for driving the
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  Speaker 1: wrong way down the road control room. Can I see
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  Speaker 1: the video of the Brittany look alike in the bar?
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  Speaker 1: That's good video too, which Oh there you go. I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad that guy behind her pulled over. Okay, right here,
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  Speaker 1: pres Hilton, Should I believe you are my lion eyes
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  Speaker 1: because she is totally toasting everybody with a big, fat drink.
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  Speaker 1: So you're telling me she did not imbibe even though
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  Speaker 1: she had a drink in her hand, or are you
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  Speaker 1: telling me that's not Britney Spears.
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  Speaker 2: What I am saying is I just wish healing for
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  Speaker 2: Brittany and everybody. I have a lot of empathy not
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  Speaker 2: just for her, but also for her children as well
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  Speaker 2: as a victims as well.
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  Speaker 1: Perez, I've known you a long time and I like you,
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  Speaker 1: and I read what you right, and I'll listen to
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  Speaker 1: your podcast.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: I just asked you a direct question about driving the
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  Speaker 1: wrong way down a highway at night into oncoming traffic,
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  Speaker 1: and you said you wish for healing. Stop.
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  Speaker 6: I did not answer the question.
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  Speaker 2: And traffic, okay, I did watch the entire video, and
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  Speaker 2: I did not see any traffic coming her way. Obviously
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  Speaker 2: she was not driving as the law dictates.
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  Speaker 6: But I think the.
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  Speaker 2: Bigger picture is why we're here, why we're even talking
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  Speaker 2: about Britney Spears.
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  Speaker 6: It's clear that this young woman, well now she's in her.
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  Speaker 2: Forties, but I think for so many of us, she's
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  Speaker 2: still that little girl, and we feel like, Britney's a
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  Speaker 2: part of our family and we're rooting for her and
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  Speaker 2: we want her to.
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  Speaker 6: Have a happy ending.
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  Speaker 2: But I think unfortunately, she's only going to get better
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  Speaker 2: if she wants to get.
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  Speaker 1: Better, you know, Perez Hilton, I'm not quite sure why
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  Speaker 1: my beloved control room is showing racy videos of Brittany
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  Speaker 1: pushing her breast up. I want to talk there. You
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  Speaker 1: go right there, that's like a going in. No, okay, Perez,
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  Speaker 1: I know you can't see oncoming traffic, but would you
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: at least agree she's driving on the wrong side of
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: the road.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: More than that she was driving erratically. I would say
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: she she was swerving. And this is nothing new.
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: As I shared with you, she's always been a bad driver.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, put him back up for Pete's sake, Perez,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: there's a big difference in a bad driver. A lot
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: of people are bad drivers, but ahead on collision on
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: the wrong side of the road. I've seen vehicular homicide
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: cases before where even with the jaws of life, you
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: can barely get the victim out of their vehicle through
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: no fault of their own. You said we're all rooting
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: for Brittany. I am too, do you know how much
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: hate mail I got for demanding that conservatorship end and
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: vilifying her father from making reportedly six million dollars off
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: that conservatorship. I did not think that was fair, working
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: her like a mule and everybody sucking on her like
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: a tick taking all the money. I thought that was wrong,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: and it was wrong. But this is also wrong, bad
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: driver and vehicular homicide.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: I agree.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: My question, my question to you is what do you
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: think is the path forward?
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: What should happen? What would we know see? I was
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: asking you the questions, mister Hilton. I'm asking you the
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: question to say, you've worked with Brittany, You've known Brittany
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: for a long time, and I agree. She feels like
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: somebody in our family that we all grew up with.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: We've been watching her shi she was on the Mickey
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Mouse Show, I guess, and she's beautiful and wonderful and
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: amazingly talented. That does not excuse a potential head on collision.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: And it hasn't happened yet, and this is the time
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: for action the family. Whitn't you agrees afraid to touch
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: her with a ten foot pole after the father was
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: vilified rightfully or wrongfully. So what is your experience with Britney?
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Is there any way to get to her?
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, I think the best way to get to her
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: is through her sons, who are adults now, Sean Preston
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: and Jaden James. They're nineteen and twenty. And unfortunately, last
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: week Kevin Fetterline, her ex husband, said that because of
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: things that they have observed, both of the kids, adults
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: now over the age of eighteen, did spend time with
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Brittany this year, one more than the other, and they
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: don't feel.
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: Comfortable spending more time with her. And it's such that
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: we're asking so much as men.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, isn't it true that one of them got an
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: expensive car from her in the past year?
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: That would not shock me. I did not know that.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: And so if that is true, he takes a car,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: but is afraid to be with her, but not afraid
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: to take the car, I'm that extremely inconsistent.
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: Well, I'll give.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: You an exclusive that I've heard from some of my sources.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: It's more than just the car, Nancy. I'm told that Brittany,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: even though she's not legally obligated to do so, still
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: financially supports her sons and gives them an allowance, both
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: of them, even the one that is more estranged from her.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm not surprised. I mean, is there anything
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: you would not do for any of your three children?
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Because I can think of very few things I wouldn't
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: do for mine, So I'm not surprised she's giving money
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: to her children. They're her boys. But it is a
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: little galling that Federline is still sucking her blood writing
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: a tail all book. Coincidentally, as soon as a child support.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Ends, I expect fully that he will continue to do this.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Brittany and the people around her just decide to silence
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: him by giving him more money.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Perez, I think at this juncture we can expect a
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: long line stretching endlessly into the future, appearances by fetter
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Line promoting his book, maybe getting paid appearances. Make no mistake.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Child's support is paid to the parent, and the parent
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: takes that money to support the children. So all the
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: child support was was a huge amount Britney Spears was
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: paying went to fetter Line to use as hec's fit,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: and the minute that ended, he puts out the book.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Have you read the book? Do you know about the book?
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: I know?
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Every detail about the book, and I find it hilarious
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: that he says he's doing.
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: It for his children.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: I would have more respect for him if he was
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: just transparent and said I'm doing this for the money.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: He also claims he's releasing this book because he's concerned
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: about Britney. If you're really concerned about the mother of
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: your children, I think there are better ways to express that.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: You mean, shut the hell up and help her. I mean,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: that's what I would have suggested. Now, this is confounding
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: to me. The court awarded and this is, according to him,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: twenty grand a month in child support that saw two
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: hundred and forty thousand, nearly quarter million dollars a year,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: and at the same time alimony like he can't go
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: to work of twenty thousand a month.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the number was increased eventually, so it did go
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: up to forty thousand a month for a long time.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Another little bit of good news. Brittany is estranged, as
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: we know, from her father, from her mother, from her sister. However,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Brittany has an older brother, which a lot of people
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: don't know or the me media doesn't talk about that often.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: And Britney's brother, Brian Spears is, to my understanding, the
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: only family member in regular and close contact with Britney.
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: So you know, I do believe in the.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Value and importance of family, and hopefully he is a
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: positive influence for his sister.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Perez. Federline was getting around a half a million dollars
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: a year from Brittany, and according to you more, I'm
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: using a conservative calculation, and the minute that money ends,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: suddenly he has a tell all but which totally trashes
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: the mother of his children to clear his name? What
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: does his name need to be cleared? Who wants to
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: clear the name of Kevin Federline? Does anyone even think
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: about Kevin Federline?
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, like you, Nan, I'm all about keeping
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: it real and being honest.
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: A couple of years ago, Brittany came.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Out with her own memoir, So I do think it
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: is absolutely valid and fair for Kevin to release.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: His Now, oh so that's surprised, Hill to the name
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: is fair, Nanny, Nini boo boo. Please, it's only fair.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: You did it if you are if I am this, so,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: are you are you crazy? No? You're not crazy, I
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: know that for a fact. But your reasoning is a
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: non sequitur. It doesn't follow. He's the one making all
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: the money off of her, and now that the money ends,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: he's trashing her. He has used her from day one
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: and used her children against her. Was she the best mom?
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: I can clearly say with no doubt, no, she was not.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: But this book, okay, I just find it to be
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: I hate using this word triggering. He puts the book out,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: and now this incident happens with her driving. She can't
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: blame anyone but herself for the driving, but he knows
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: how fragile she is and put this book out. Anyway,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: He's just looking for another payday. But he's not my concern.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: My concern is a future vehicular homicide victim. So you
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: think the brother can talk sense into her?
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: I didn't say that.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody can talk sense into Brittany, sadly,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: but the good thing is outside of the brother, every
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: other person in Britney's.
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: Life is on the payroll. So they're just another form
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: of Kevin fetterline. And that's sad.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Let me be clear, Are you telling me that's not
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Brittany that I'm looking at right there? Driving that car?
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: The wrong one? Brittany it's her.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, and are you also telling me she did not
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: drink alcohol at the bar?
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: I didn't say that, I said according to the manager
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: of the restaurant, he alleges that Brittany was not drunk.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: You know what, you know us a little about you.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: You throw in enough allegedly's reportedly's and according tos. I mean,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: it's amazing. I should take a page out of your book,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: for sure. What were you going to say?
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: But you know, listen, I'm on teen truth and just
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: one drink can have a really bad reaction if you're
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: also taking medication, and I don't know, perhaps Brittany is
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: on medication. So it was an unfortunate incident and hopefully
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: it doesn't happen again.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Well, I very often call unfortunate incidents felonies, and that's
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: what I don't want Britney Spears to be involved in.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: You think anybody would come to her aid if she's
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: charged with a hic homicide. No, everybody would be piling
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: on and then you'd have the victim totally destroyed. Okay,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: what's your most vivid memory, your most vivid personal memory
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: of Britney.
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: I mean, I remember.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: It sucks because it was during the conservatorship, but her
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: life was stable and she was performing and doing what
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: she loves. And I went to go see her show
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: in Las Vegas, and this was after I was in
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: her Circus tour opening and for this.
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: One song, she brought me up on stage and put
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: me on a leash.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: And walked me around and that was a fun moment
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: for me, definitely.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, let me understand what I'm hearing. I'd like to
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: say for us, Hilton, please, Britney Spears put you on
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: a leash and walked you across the stage like a dog,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: and that's your best memory. Okay, I think I'll leave
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: on that point. Thank you, mister Hulton. No further comments.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Cross examination has now ended. An erradic driving video of
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Britney Spears has gone viral. Her response, that was a
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: look alike, It wasn't me. Here's the concern. If that's
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: what we're seeing in public, what is happening and private?
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: I want you to see a video posted by we
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: believe none other than her loving ex husband Kevin Fetterline
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: in his attempt to trash the mother of his children.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: But this is a harsh reality. If this is to
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: be believed. Listen, I'm in here while we're trying to
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: go to bed, and and you just this is my house.
• 30:28
  Speaker 9: If I want to come in here and give you
• 30:30
  Speaker 9: lotion for your face because it is coarse, and all you.
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: Tell me now he's fine? Is fine?
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: No, it's not fine. You all better start respecting me.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Are we clear?
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah? And when Robin calls an you're all.
• 30:45
  Speaker 10: You're all, even Robin's a kid, she says, what have
• 30:48
  Speaker 10: you been giving to your kids?
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: You're all?
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: You own?
• 30:51
  Speaker 9: You to start treating me like a woman with worth.
• 30:54
  Speaker 9: I am a woman. Okay, be nice to me. Do
• 30:58
  Speaker 9: you understand?
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Straight out to our all star panel of a guest.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: That video, as I mentioned earlier, was from Kevin Federline.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst joining us from La, author of
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: deal Breaker. You can see her on Peacock and find
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Before I tank
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: the water, I'd like to hear your response to that video,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Nancy is heartbreaking. Those kids are being verbally abused.
• 31:29
  Speaker 11: She's telling them that they need to respect her, but
• 31:33
  Speaker 11: not in the way that a parent says.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: You know, I cook dinner for you.
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: So you could.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Appreciate what I've done.
• 31:38
  Speaker 11: It's more like she's exploiting them for her own narcissistic gratification,
• 31:43
  Speaker 11: getting them to admire her and look up to her,
• 31:46
  Speaker 11: and that is really the use of the relationship with
• 31:49
  Speaker 11: her children.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know quite what to make of it. There
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: is more video, and let me go out to our
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: lawyer joining us is a conservatorship specialist, and of course
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go to her on conservatorships, but she's
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: probably just other sorts of law as well. Elizabeth J. Mcinturffe,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: specializing in guardianship issues, partner at Selzer Gervich. Elizabeth, thank
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: you for being with us. Whenever you, I assume like me,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: would put a witness on the stand, I would have
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: to judge the credibility. Can they be believed? I put
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: everything on the stand, from a nun, a priest, possibly
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: a virgin, to strippers, prostitutes, drug addicts, you name it,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: and I can tell you this much. Every witness you
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: put on the stand will be cross examined, so you've
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: got to be ready. My point, consider the source. This
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: is a video posted by her ex who is sucking
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: her blood with his tell all book. Coincidentally, the moment
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: his child support ends, then he writes a book. He
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: posted this, But even though I'm considering the source, Elizabeth McInturff,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: I can't argue with its authenticity.
• 33:11
  Speaker 12: The video itself may be authentic, but what doesn't matter
• 33:14
  Speaker 12: if it was, you know, nearly twenty years ago. Now
• 33:18
  Speaker 12: we're talking about Brittany in the present sense and whether
• 33:21
  Speaker 12: or not she needs additional help, whether or not a
• 33:24
  Speaker 12: conservatorship is appropriate, what may or may not happened fifteen
• 33:28
  Speaker 12: years ago with her then, you know, younger children shouldn't
• 33:33
  Speaker 12: matter as it stands right now as to whether or
• 33:35
  Speaker 12: not she needs a guardianship. In fact, that was likely
• 33:38
  Speaker 12: already considered during her first guardianship.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Elizabeth McInturff, are you telling me that when you don't
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: know a horse, you cannot judge her track record?
• 33:51
  Speaker 12: The track record that the court is going to be
• 33:54
  Speaker 12: looking at is going to be the track record that's
• 33:55
  Speaker 12: happening right now, what has happened since the last guardianship.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: So I don't know if you've ever been to a race,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: but certainly seen the Kentucky Derby on TV. A track
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: record is what has happened in the past not what
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: is happening right now. I'm sure you're familiar with similar
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: transactions in the law that tend to prove or disprove
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: the case in chief. What I'm talking about, and the
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: reason I showed that video is we see the erratic
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: driving in the here and now, but what happens behind
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: closed doors. What I'm saying is there is a move
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: afoot to revive her conservatorship after this erratic driving video
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: went viral, and there is a track record of bizarre
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: behavior in the past, but the bizarre doesn't necessarily require
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: a conservatorship. Everybody thinks everybody else is bizarre, right, So
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: who are we to step and say she needs a conservatorship?
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: But Elizabeth mcinturf, who I'd like to see while I'm
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: talking to her, Elizabeth, when you begin to threaten other
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: people and put them in danger, that changes everything.
• 35:13
  Speaker 12: Correct, And her putting people in danger is something that
• 35:18
  Speaker 12: the court may consider, but it's really is whether or
• 35:20
  Speaker 12: not she's putting herself in danger. The fact that she
• 35:23
  Speaker 12: put other people in danger the other night is horrifying.
• 35:27
  Speaker 12: And I also just question why no one called the
• 35:30
  Speaker 12: police if they're behind this car for miles presumably I
• 35:34
  Speaker 12: can tell you that shining a foolish.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Until they call you that. I'll tell you why, because
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: this video was not taken by a concerned citizen. It's
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: my belief, which has not been corroborated, that it's taken
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: by the paparazzi and they wanted to get the whole shot.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: They'd probably be thrilled if she had a crash, because
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: then they'd have the video. That's why they didn't call police.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: They thought their video would end. I'm just guessing.
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: I think you're probably right on that.
• 35:58
  Speaker 12: And whether or not though that that driving incident means
• 36:01
  Speaker 12: that she needs a guardianship is maybe something in the
• 36:04
  Speaker 12: court would look at, but it wouldn't be kind of
• 36:08
  Speaker 12: the end all be all of the guardianship. And like
• 36:11
  Speaker 12: you mentioned, it's the guardianship is a nuclear action. It's
• 36:15
  Speaker 12: kind of the last thing you.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Want to do. Oh, so they should be consaying a
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: number of steps. Are you watching the video at all
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: while you're talking? I'm sure the paparazzi are chasing her
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: as usual. No, there you go. Now watch this she
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: veers from one side into oncoming traffic in the next.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: So okay. People have argued there was no oncoming traffic,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: slams on breaks and then keeps going. That's dangerous, oh, Elizabeth, Yeah,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: horrifying the driving itself, and that is again something that
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: they may consider, But any of itself does not mean
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: a guardianship.
• 36:54
  Speaker 12: If it did, what in her ex justin Timberlake have
• 36:56
  Speaker 12: a guardianship? He himself had a DUI And so.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: What the is looking really good point? That's a really
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: good point, Elizabeth mcinturf. I was just arguing with our
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Crime Stories investigative reporter Dave Mack who called her out
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: for making a euwie? Is there anybody on this panel,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: let your voice be heard that has never pulled a
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: yui before. Just because there's one incident of erratic driving
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: does not a conservatorship make, But coupled with other behavior,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: there may be a case Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Shouldn't there be another conservatorship before anyone else is hurt?
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: The video we showed you earlier Britney Spears fussing at
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: her children about as they're trying to go to bed,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: about putting on lotion and demanding they respect her as
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: a woman. Here is another video posted by Fetterline. Have
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: you lost your.
• 37:58
  Speaker 10: Mind care, But I'm shocked as with you, and I
• 38:03
  Speaker 10: don't know what to do. And I'm scared of you
• 38:05
  Speaker 10: because you're weird, because you're going through puberty. I don't
• 38:08
  Speaker 10: know what to say, but I do care more than
• 38:10
  Speaker 10: you know, Sha, But don't be my little body can't
• 38:14
  Speaker 10: handle all of that. But it's like sometimes I just
• 38:16
  Speaker 10: don't even know what to say with you. I was
• 38:18
  Speaker 10: in shock and I do care. Literally, I was in
• 38:22
  Speaker 10: shocked in the store when I look down and Jayden.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: How are you so cool about that?
• 38:25
  Speaker 10: Your brother being mc barron's big feat Sin's thirteen, Now,
• 38:29
  Speaker 10: well he's my brother often all the more exposed his
• 38:33
  Speaker 10: feet your blood in ice cream shop in Alaska weather.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Don't you think that's a little odd?
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  Speaker 12: Uh?
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think your fond should be gone, Okay for
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: very long? Yeah, that's what I was posted by Kevin
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Federline on Insta via page six.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: During her outing with a friend at Red Oh in Westlake, California,
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Spears reportedly displayed unusual behavior, including knocking over glasses and
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: eyebrows among onlookers.
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  Speaker 1: Straight out to a private investigator, Chief Operation Officer Nathan's Investigations,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: who specializes in conservatorship issue investigations. Ashley word Law joining us. Ashley,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: thanks for being with us. I find the timing unusual
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  Speaker 1: that this talk of should there be a new conservatorship
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: exactly when the leech Kevin Federline puts out his tell
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: all book. I find it coincidental that that happens right
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: when his child support about forty grand a month combined
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: with alimony ends. Now he writes a tell all book,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: and then suddenly there is this viral video and then
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: suddenly there's a snowball effect, and we're talking about a
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: conservatorship in that video. I don't see her doing anything
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: that a lot of people haven't done.
• 39:58
  Speaker 8: As a private investigator, our job would be to get
• 40:01
  Speaker 8: factual evidence. So yes, we are going to look for
• 40:04
  Speaker 8: videos that show her behavior, but we can't speak to
• 40:08
  Speaker 8: what she's doing.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to look for past videos.
• 40:11
  Speaker 8: We're going to look for financial records and interview people,
• 40:15
  Speaker 8: you know, those who were present at the time and see,
• 40:18
  Speaker 8: you know, what their thoughts were and what was going
• 40:20
  Speaker 8: on with her while she was out in public. Okay,
• 40:23
  Speaker 8: we can only go and get what's happening outside of
• 40:27
  Speaker 8: our household.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: So, for example, we do surveillance on her for a
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks.
• 40:31
  Speaker 8: We want to show a consistent.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Pattern for her.
• 40:34
  Speaker 8: It can't just be one viral moment or one bad
• 40:37
  Speaker 8: moment and we take it.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: And run with it.
• 40:39
  Speaker 8: We need to be able to build a historical timeline
• 40:42
  Speaker 8: and show from point A up until this point, this
• 40:45
  Speaker 8: is what's been going.
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  Speaker 1: On with her, and we need that footage.
• 40:48
  Speaker 8: We need things like videos and photos so that we
• 40:51
  Speaker 8: can present this to those decision makers.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Well put how she Wardlaw joining us from Nathan's investigations.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: You know, Yessica Fan, it's just all fitting together a
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: little too neatly, Jessica Fan joining US Senior investigative reporter
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  Speaker 1: Us Son that all of this emerges, it bubbles up
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  Speaker 1: right when Federal Line's book comes out.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I have mixed feelings about kay Fed
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: coming out with this book. I mean, on the one hand,
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: it seems like it was well timed for Brittany to
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: not be doing well.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: But on the other hand, is this.
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: New depth of her spiraling result of his book. You know,
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: it's kind of like what came first, the chicken or
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: the egg here, Brittany doesn't seem to have been doing
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: well for a little while now, I think we've all
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: been witnessed to her Instagram and dancing with knives and.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Jessica Fan Jessica Fan. Yeah, if I had a body
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: like that, I might dance around in Pacey's too. Yeah,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: you know, so, so it's easy for us to say
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: that's bad. It is shend but naked. Who cares?
• 42:03
  Speaker 12: I don't gobbled?
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Do you care?
• 42:06
  Speaker 12: You know?
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Okay for the most part.
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: Note, but there's also the.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Water's forty, and she looks awesome.
• 42:11
  Speaker 13: But there's also like dog fecal matter in the background
• 42:15
  Speaker 13: on the floor, and her house is like clearly in
• 42:19
  Speaker 13: disarray and to the point where it's like a dean.
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: It looks dangerous, Hazmac kind of situation.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: So I'm looking at video right now and I don't
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: see any of that. I do say some very troubling
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: knife flay. So okay, Jessica Fan, Do you have a pet?
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: May I ask? I do? I? Do? I have a
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: cat with a litter box and have one? Ever? Let
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: me say, is there a nice way to say this
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: took a big bat crap on the floor when you
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: weren't looking.
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: It certainly happens.
• 42:46
  Speaker 13: It certainly happens.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: But I also don't know. Okay, so out so Brittany's
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: dog took a poop on the floor and she's dancing
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: around naked. I'm not the church lady. I'm concerned about
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: more serious issues like driving on the wrong side of
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: the road and a potential vehicular homicide. But actually, Wardlaw
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: is right from Nathan's investigations, there's got to be more
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: than just Jessica Finn these isolated videos, And as Ashley
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Wardlaw pointed out, you're going to have to have a
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: series of videos or a series of purported bizarre behavior
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: to establish a conservatorship. Jessica, I get the sense that
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: you're taking up for k fed. I'm going to let
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: you defend yourself very quickly. You know.
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: It's just that he's calling He's calling it like he
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: sees it. He lived through her first mental breakdowns and
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: what happened through the conservatorship. And while I totally think
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: that this is a cash grab, I don't. I do
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: think he's like literally reliving and re seeing what happened
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: so many years ago that got her in that conservationship.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, I need to go to a shrink on that
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall. It sounds like she, Jessica Finn, senior
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: investigative reporter, is saying that Federline maybe having PTSD as
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: he's living in his mansion counting his money. You know, Nancy,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: maybe he is.
• 44:14
  Speaker 6: I actually agree with Jessica.
• 44:15
  Speaker 11: I see it from all sides, and maybe that the
• 44:18
  Speaker 11: timing of the book is because the boys are now
• 44:21
  Speaker 11: of age to give consent, have turned eighteen, So not
• 44:24
  Speaker 11: just about the alimony or the child support. It could
• 44:27
  Speaker 11: be that Brittany has escalated to a point where there
• 44:31
  Speaker 11: needs to be some kind of intervention so she's not
• 44:34
  Speaker 11: a danger to self or others.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: But I watched Bethany Marshall on the way to your
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: office in the sky, your plush sweet, you've never gone
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: over the center lane before. But that's not what this is.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Next to see, that is not what this is owed her.
• 44:52
  Speaker 11: I don't think so, because she did it multiple times.
• 44:55
  Speaker 11: Nancy does a thirty minute ride from the restaurant to
• 45:00
  Speaker 11: her house. That was thirty minutes that she could have
• 45:03
  Speaker 11: killed herself or somebody else, and the paparazzi doesn't even
• 45:06
  Speaker 11: call nine one one. I mean, you eloquently pointed out
• 45:09
  Speaker 11: that they're not motivated to do it. But you know, Nancy,
• 45:12
  Speaker 11: if she or my patient, I would wonder if she
• 45:14
  Speaker 11: was still connected to reality, if she had driven everybody away,
• 45:18
  Speaker 11: if she's become the kind of person who's untreatable, because
• 45:23
  Speaker 11: she might just fire whoever has helping her and then
• 45:25
  Speaker 11: replace that person with.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Somebody of Ephany, you actually have me over a barrel.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: There are plenty of people out there that have driven
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: everyone away. They don't have any friends. That does not
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: mean they should be under a conservatorship. I don't care
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: how many times she dances naked except for some pasties
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: on instant. Don't care. But, Elizabeth mcintur, if you're the
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: expert in guardianship issues, Bethany has me over a barrel. Can't.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: I don't care about the knife video. I don't care
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: about the dog taking a poop and there's the offender
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: in the background the dog. I do care about a
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: potential vehicul homicide. I care about Britney hurting herself or
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: someone else. But what can we do? I mean, I
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: have defended Britney since day one, but when other people
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: aren't at risk, that changes the mix.
• 46:23
  Speaker 12: Elizabeth, what the court is going to look for in
• 46:26
  Speaker 12: a guardianship proceeding is just whether or not she has
• 46:29
  Speaker 12: capacity to make decisions. People with capacity make bad decisions
• 46:34
  Speaker 12: all the time. Right they choose to drive erradically, they
• 46:37
  Speaker 12: choose to yell at their children, they make decisions that
• 46:41
  Speaker 12: are not safe for them or safe for others. It
• 46:43
  Speaker 12: does not necessarily mean that they have a guardianship. The
• 46:47
  Speaker 12: court is going to look at is whether or not
• 46:49
  Speaker 12: she has the capacity to make those decisions. And if
• 46:52
  Speaker 12: she doesn't have the capacity to make those decisions, perhaps
• 46:55
  Speaker 12: a guardianship inappropriate.
• 46:57
  Speaker 6: But she does have the capacity and.
• 46:58
  Speaker 12: She's just making bad decisions, that does not require a guardianship.
• 47:03
  Speaker 12: And there's other options that could take that aren't the
• 47:06
  Speaker 12: nuclear option of a guardianship. There's certainly an intervention that
• 47:11
  Speaker 12: family and friends could hold, she can take other actions,
• 47:15
  Speaker 12: have medical powers of attorney, people to assist her in
• 47:18
  Speaker 12: case she isn't a crisis. But we have to remember
• 47:21
  Speaker 12: that a guardianship is an absolutely extreme remedy in which
• 47:25
  Speaker 12: we are taking away all of somebody's rights in many events,
• 47:30
  Speaker 12: and so we have to think about that carefully before
• 47:33
  Speaker 12: we start throwing around that people need guardianships or they
• 47:35
  Speaker 12: don't need guardianships, particularly when what we're trying to do
• 47:38
  Speaker 12: is control bad behavior as opposed to assist somebody who's
• 47:42
  Speaker 12: lacking in capacity.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Now we remember an American hero, Sergeant Frederick Coleman, Arkansas
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Department Corrections, killed in the line of duty after fifteen
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: years serving and protecting, leaving behind his wife turned widow,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: and six children and without their father. American hero Sergeant
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Frederick Coleman. Nancy Grace signing off goodbye friend.