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Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, December 3 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: He's celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football. Good from
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  Speaker 1: thirty yards away and the Jaguars had beaten a long
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  Speaker 1: Angels target. Everybody feel it is a victory Monday, dece
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  Speaker 1: This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars Happy Hour is presented
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  Speaker 1: by Jet Home Loans and now a guy who's currently
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  Speaker 1: taking bids to come to your house and watch the
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  Speaker 1: ball drop. J P schedules open. Yeah, um, welcome in
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Jet Home Loans. At the
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  Speaker 1: end of the twenty nineteen season, j P, Shadrick, Tony Boselli,
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  Speaker 1: Pete Frisco, and we've got plenty to discuss in this program.
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  Speaker 1: The season aftermath is beginning today Locker room clean out day.
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  Speaker 1: We'll hear from some guys in the locker room today
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  Speaker 1: on their final day of fish really here at the
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  Speaker 1: T I A. Bank Field. The future of the football
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  Speaker 1: leadership is the big question around the Jaguars world today.
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  Speaker 1: What will that entail will hopefully soon find out. The
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  Speaker 1: NFL Draft selections are said as well. We're gonna officially
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  Speaker 1: talk NFL Draft tonight. That's what we're talking. Pete, what's up?
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  Speaker 1: I like talking NFL Draft. Tony hates it. I like
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  Speaker 1: talking NFL Draft in November. I've been fine with it
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  Speaker 1: this year, Pete, I've been pushed back at all. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: you've been much better. If you're a realist. Now, that's
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  Speaker 1: what happened when you become a member of the media.
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm I'm leaving the media. You're leaving. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna divorce myself. You're done, We'll see you never know.
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  Speaker 1: Once you're in. Once you're in, you're in. You can't
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  Speaker 1: get out. You can't get out. Blood in bloods unless
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  Speaker 1: you've got information that you're being named the generalmanager somewhere,
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  Speaker 1: breaking news that is not happening. No news, Okay, we
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  Speaker 1: have a GM. First of all, there is a GM here.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't say there. Maybe you were going somewhere else.
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  Speaker 1: Broncos the partner with Elway, my childhood childhood hero. How
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  Speaker 1: could he have been your childhood hero when you're older
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  Speaker 1: than he is. He was in the three draft that
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  Speaker 1: was eleven eleven years old. I know, just you look
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  Speaker 1: a lot older than he does. No, actually, no, you
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't. Let's start off with that looking
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  Speaker 1: ahead to the future, but in the aftermath, of the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars win last night, head coach Doug Marone discussing his
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  Speaker 1: future shout and Tony want a a great football team here.
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  Speaker 1: There's not There's no doubt in my mind. And there
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  Speaker 1: are two great honors. So, um, it's just a matter
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  Speaker 1: of does it make sense as it's right. Obviously, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to communicate that here. That's you know, for
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  Speaker 1: a private conversation. And this is the way I feel,
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  Speaker 1: this is what we have to do. This is what
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  Speaker 1: I need and you know, expressed those opinions, and if
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  Speaker 1: it's if it is the right direction, then I'm the
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  Speaker 1: right person for the job. If it isn't, then I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: There are reports today that there are meeting scheduled tomorrow
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  Speaker 1: between the ownership and the football leadership of the Jaguars.
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  Speaker 1: Are these the same sources that said he was fired
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  Speaker 1: on Saturday allegedly? I don't know. That's a great question,
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  Speaker 1: same four letter network. But yes, that was that was
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  Speaker 1: an interesting Saturday, Pete, very very interesting. And the reason
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  Speaker 1: I say that is, um, the report came out and
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  Speaker 1: then they quickly destroyed the report. And when they destroyed
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  Speaker 1: the report, they did it with the left and then
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  Speaker 1: the overhand, right, because Jim Woodcox sent out the statement
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  Speaker 1: and then Tony Khan sent out the tweet and they
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  Speaker 1: just obliterated the report. And as of right now, the
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  Speaker 1: report is wrong. It doesn't mean it's going to be wrong,
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  Speaker 1: but it's wrong as of right now. Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 1: they said it was gonna be after the season. The
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  Speaker 1: season's over. Nothing's happened. The report is that he was
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  Speaker 1: told he was told. I mean that we know, like
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  Speaker 1: we that the report will never be right Pete because
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  Speaker 1: the report said he was told that he's going to
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  Speaker 1: be dismissed. The conversation never happened. I mean, has not
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  Speaker 1: been told anything. So what not that we can spent
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  Speaker 1: too much time in this but as a reporter, because
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is your livelihood, I mean you're really
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  Speaker 1: the media. I mean this is your report for a living.
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  Speaker 1: What I mean, what does that do to to a
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  Speaker 1: reporter when something you missed something that bad. Well, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna give you an example. I would I missed something
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  Speaker 1: and I reported as back. But I said it on
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  Speaker 1: the air that the Arizona Cardinals were not going to
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  Speaker 1: take Kyler Murray. Now I was told that by somebody
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  Speaker 1: I trusted and reported it. I didn't say, you know,
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  Speaker 1: to make it exclose. I just put it out there
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  Speaker 1: on the show. I don't think they're taking him. I've
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  Speaker 1: been told that they're leaning in another direction. Well it
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  Speaker 1: ended up they took them, and people got all over me.
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  Speaker 1: And I went back to the guy who told me
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  Speaker 1: that an he lied to me, and I was, man, really, man,
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  Speaker 1: I said, of all the people you know, why would
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  Speaker 1: you lie to me about that? And he apologized up
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  Speaker 1: and down and whatever, and I said, look, bygones, be bygones.
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  Speaker 1: So I got the information and I had found out
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  Speaker 1: part of the problem was they if the baseball clause
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  Speaker 1: in his contract wasn't remedied, they might not have taken him.
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  Speaker 1: But I got the information from a trusted, reliable worse,
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  Speaker 1: and it was wrong. So did Diana Rassini get the
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  Speaker 1: information from a trusted, reliable source and it was wrong?
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  Speaker 1: That's the question. Well, that's I mean, why else would
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  Speaker 1: she report I mean, she's a very credible, like good
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  Speaker 1: reputation as a journalist. Why would she report it if
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  Speaker 1: she didn't have a good, good source? Right, But they're
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  Speaker 1: only sources that would know that are shot con Tony
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  Speaker 1: Khan probably Jim Woodcock probably and Doug Moron and maybe
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  Speaker 1: Dave Cobble, and that's it. Would you agree, and maybe
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  Speaker 1: would maybe Doug's agent, Yeah, that's it. The story was reported.
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  Speaker 1: She could have left herself and out by saying it
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  Speaker 1: appears that as soon as the season's over, there's a
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  Speaker 1: good chance Doug Marone will be let go, rather than
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  Speaker 1: saying he's been told that he will be let go
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  Speaker 1: after the season. Because it's still a possibility, you know that.
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  Speaker 1: So if he let go on Tuesday when they have
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  Speaker 1: their meeting, but she's still wrong even if he's let
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  Speaker 1: go Tuesday, right, But okay, but if he's left going
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  Speaker 1: Tuesday after the meeting, do they say we had it right?
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  Speaker 1: And I would answer that question by saying, as a journalist, no,
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  Speaker 1: because of the way you reported that. Yeah, it was
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  Speaker 1: just crazy. It was a crazy timeline. Yeah, what happens
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  Speaker 1: if they keep the then what does she do? Because
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  Speaker 1: that's even wor that's a bad look. But again I
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  Speaker 1: go back there. I told you the story would happened
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  Speaker 1: to me, And sometimes you trust the source and it's
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  Speaker 1: not right depending on the source. Now, my source was
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  Speaker 1: rock solid, so I was angry about it. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure she'll have a source, like if it's a periphery
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  Speaker 1: agent that told her that bad source. If it was
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  Speaker 1: it was you know, one of the cons wo told
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  Speaker 1: her that it's not true, then they have some explaining
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  Speaker 1: do And I doubt it was then. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: another question, that's what's going to happen after these meetings tomorrow? Well,
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  Speaker 1: if they were going to fire him, why would you
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  Speaker 1: wait till tuesday. That's just my theory on it. It
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  Speaker 1: makes no sense. You get ahead of the game. Today
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  Speaker 1: was a day um other than Jerry Jones who likes
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  Speaker 1: to have his own stage and fire guys what he
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  Speaker 1: wants to to make it look good. Yeah. But when
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  Speaker 1: you say get ahead of the game, if you do
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  Speaker 1: tomorrow instead of today, you're not. I mean, he didn't
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  Speaker 1: lose any ground, No, But what's the point of making
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  Speaker 1: a guy twist in the wind a little bit too?
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that's what they're doing. I
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  Speaker 1: think I think according to the report and everything I hear,
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  Speaker 1: is that, you know, Sean wants to sit down with everybody,
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  Speaker 1: wants to have a deep evaluation of where we are
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  Speaker 1: as an organization and make a decision with all the facts.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't they spend time together last Friday? It's some dinner.
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  Speaker 1: A report on Thursday that they were at dinner. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how much more do you need? Let me?
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  Speaker 1: You will say what I've been saying is accurate, that
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  Speaker 1: the pushback from the fan base is really influencing him
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  Speaker 1: this time around. I don't I actually don't know. I
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  Speaker 1: think this is a situation where Thanks Sho wants to
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  Speaker 1: I think he wants to talk to a lot of people.
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  Speaker 1: He wants to get a good sense, and obviously to
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  Speaker 1: the two most important or David Doug. But I think
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  Speaker 1: he's I think he's doing a bunch of due diligence
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  Speaker 1: right now to make sure he has all the facts
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  Speaker 1: and has all the information he needs and he wants
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  Speaker 1: to make a decision, and I think that's the right
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  Speaker 1: way to do it, by the way, and I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be shocked if it even goes down to the locker
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  Speaker 1: room as well. Today was player getaway day, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure there's probably some key players that he, you know,
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  Speaker 1: talked to just to get their ideas. I thinks I
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  Speaker 1: always think talking to players is dangerous and I was,
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  Speaker 1: and I was because there's a player. Unless you just
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  Speaker 1: hate the head coach, knowing that there's a chance he's
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  Speaker 1: come back, you're not gonna kill him unless you just
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  Speaker 1: can't stand him. And if you like them, if you
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  Speaker 1: really like them, you might go the other way, even
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  Speaker 1: though you know that maybe things can be better, but
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  Speaker 1: you really like him as a person. And so I think,
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  Speaker 1: not that it's not a good thing to talk to
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  Speaker 1: people and get a perspective, but take you for what
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  Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, I think that you always gonna take
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  Speaker 1: all that with grain salt. So what do you think happens.
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  Speaker 1: I think they're both back. I think they're both back
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  Speaker 1: to and I do think that the pushback in town
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  Speaker 1: has been heard and they've noticed it. Why do you
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  Speaker 1: say that, Pete, Because I, Tony, I've been I lived
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  Speaker 1: in that town for how long, and I know that
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  Speaker 1: fan base. I don't ever remember him being this fired
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  Speaker 1: up about the potential bringing those guys back. Ever. Ever,
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  Speaker 1: they're mad, Tony, They're mad. You know you live there.
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  Speaker 1: You hear it on the radio and in the comments
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  Speaker 1: and people talking to you. They're as the fans are
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  Speaker 1: as mad and angry and frustrated as they've ever been. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like mad. I would actually describe it differently. I would
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  Speaker 1: say frustrated, and um, what doesn't say bewildered, But that's
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  Speaker 1: not the right right word of wondering, I guess wondering
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  Speaker 1: what the reason is? Like you know what I'm saying
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  Speaker 1: not because I don't think anyone dislikes Dave or dislikes Doug,
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  Speaker 1: but I think what the fan base is saying is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, since Day's been here, it's six double digit
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  Speaker 1: losing seasons out of seven. Um, right now, I think,
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  Speaker 1: I mean we've sat there. You look at the roster,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's at best bottom third of the NFL. Would
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  Speaker 1: you say that, oh yeah, without questions? And so you know,
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  Speaker 1: you look at some of the miss first rounders and
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  Speaker 1: the miss second rounders, and you know the Jalen Ramsey
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  Speaker 1: stuff that I mean, we don't. I mean, let's not
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  Speaker 1: forget to Telvin submit the pro bowler just decided one
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  Speaker 1: day to leave, Um you know, like borders, the quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 1: and I mean just look at all of that. And
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  Speaker 1: and now more than ever, even more than I am
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  Speaker 1: that that I think is right in the NFL. It
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  Speaker 1: is such a such a wins and losses. What have
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  Speaker 1: you done for me immediately when he saw Pat Sherman
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  Speaker 1: get fired after two years, Freddie Kitchens after one after
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  Speaker 1: one year, and then people want immediate results. And so
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  Speaker 1: when you look at the situation, you said, I hate
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  Speaker 1: the fans are saying they're frustrated because they want to win,
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  Speaker 1: and everyone's frustrated and more than anger, it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: like looking and saying like like, help me understand what
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  Speaker 1: we're what we're looking at and why it's gonna be different.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's, you know, more of the and
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  Speaker 1: there's some anger in there there as well, But I
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  Speaker 1: think that's the major sentiment I had. I had I've
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  Speaker 1: had talking to people and I haven't today. So one
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  Speaker 1: asking me questions like, well, just can you explain to
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  Speaker 1: me why that they would be back? And wasn't angry,
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  Speaker 1: loves the franchise, you know, wants it to be successful,
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  Speaker 1: fan everything else, but it was it was just like
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  Speaker 1: that kind of like just help me understand why, and
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  Speaker 1: it'll be interesting. I think it's me when uh assuming,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is my sense that they both come
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  Speaker 1: back and the announcement comes out, what kind of information
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  Speaker 1: will be given kind of what is the you know, expectations, uh,
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  Speaker 1: from the team and from from Dave and Doug, and
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  Speaker 1: I think you know, well, it also could be this.
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  Speaker 1: It also could be a situation, aation where they're looking
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  Speaker 1: at it. They can't get out from underneath foals contract, right,
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  Speaker 1: they can't unless some he retires, which he's not he
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  Speaker 1: said today he's not doing, or they give up draft
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  Speaker 1: picks and some team is foolish enough to take him.
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  Speaker 1: Or he restructures a contract, which in his case, why
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  Speaker 1: would you do it? Or give it up money, So
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  Speaker 1: he's not going to do that. So they can't get
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  Speaker 1: from out from underneath that. So they're stuck with him
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  Speaker 1: for another year. So if you try and hire a
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  Speaker 1: new coach outside that guy comes in, he's stuck with him.
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  Speaker 1: And now after a year, if they don't win, then
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  Speaker 1: you get rid of Doug and Dave and then you
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  Speaker 1: go from there and they're not stuck. The guy who
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  Speaker 1: comes in the GM slash new coach is not stuck
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  Speaker 1: with Nick Foles and that contract that's an albatross hanging
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  Speaker 1: over them right now. Yeah, you like it, you're like that? Well,
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  Speaker 1: his face, his face showed it. The whole big false
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  Speaker 1: things fascinating to me. I mean it's so fascinating. I
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  Speaker 1: mean six months ago or eight months ago, nine months
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  Speaker 1: ago now when they signed him, the excitement and great,
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  Speaker 1: and yes I think some of us and most of
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  Speaker 1: us said, you made it, might have paid a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more than you had to. But like, this is
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  Speaker 1: the guy everyone wanted. And literally after two and a
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  Speaker 1: half games, we now cannot stand him. And he's the
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  Speaker 1: worst quarterback ever. That's what's fascinating to me, Like, how
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  Speaker 1: did he go from the guy? Yes, we're excited too,
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  Speaker 1: the biggest disaster. How do we get rid of them?
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  Speaker 1: Made er tire situation over two and a half games?
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  Speaker 1: Three starts, two full games or uh two full games
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  Speaker 1: a half plus eleven play a little bit over two
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  Speaker 1: and a half games, So three starts, four starts, four starts,
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  Speaker 1: four starts, and fans fans don't think he's any good either,
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  Speaker 1: But people, you know what I mean? Come on, though, man,
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  Speaker 1: we can't decide it on that. I mean, you just
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  Speaker 1: gotta decided on but you can't. You can't make like
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not saying, by the way, he's the guy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, boy, it's tough to make a judgment
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  Speaker 1: based on just two and a half games of of work.
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  Speaker 1: H We've got plenty of time. But that's what but
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  Speaker 1: that is, that's what's happened. Let's come back a little
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  Speaker 1: bit later. We'll get into the quarterback talk a little more.
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  Speaker 1: We'll go a quarterback talk. We'll do more. We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: do more, Tony Um. We're also gonna come back in
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  Speaker 1: a moment and get into the future of the Jaguars defense.
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  Speaker 1: You bring Lars. Joe told me to take a year
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  Speaker 1: by year, you know, obviously, you know, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: if it's gonna be. Uh you know how many more
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  Speaker 1: I want to plaint another one, that's for sure. I
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  Speaker 1: on set. Calais Son one of those names that you
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: you just wonder what's gonna happen in the off season here.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, the guy just finished his twelfth season. He's
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: got a big cap number, small dead cap number next year,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: but you you love his presence, certainly on this football team.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: He made an impact play yesterday with a fumble return touchdown.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: And we can go through a few guys on defense,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Let's start with Calais I mean this is you know,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: there's some savings to be had there, but you still
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: want him and he still wants to play well, No,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: you definitely want him on the team. At the bottom
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: line is you can't pay him the fourteen fifty million
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: dollars whatever it is next year you owe him. Might
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: even be more than that. Seventeen and a half cap
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: hit two and a half million dollar dead cap, so
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: it's a fifteen million dollar delta. I mean you can't
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: pay it. I mean, right now we are the way
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: what how I understand the cap were over the cap
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: going in the next year, and that's before the draft
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: and before any free agency, so you have to make
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: hard decisions. You gotta let guys go. Who are starters
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: in this football team and where the team sits right now.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: You want Calais back because of his leadership is presence.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: You want him playing probably about thirty snaps a game,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: and for that you're probably gonna be able to pay
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: him seven to nine million because you have to get
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: a cap savings. You get, um, he's not an every
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: down guy anymore. His reps are need to be way,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: you know, reduced to the big way. And so you
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: look at a guy like that, what you hope is
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: that he wants to be here because I don't think
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I don't see anyone paying them, you know, twelve thirteen
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: million dollars a year. But do you want him seven
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: eight making a two year deal with funny money in
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: it and you get give him a bonus and make
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: the cap it lass, maybe make it you know, spread
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: it out, have some big incentives in there, so the
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: productions there, you can pay him more. But I just don't,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, but so truly it's gonna be in clays
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: his court. Does he want to come back here? Does
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: he want to play for less money in Jacksonville or
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: does he want to go to a contender or if
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: he feels like this team is too far away, does
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: he want to try to go get a ring? What's
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: your gut telling you? I don't know. I haven't spent
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: any time with class. Um. I think I think he
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: likes it. Jacually, he's he's probably the most popular player
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: in Jacksonville right now. Um. But that's a question. He's
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: gonna have to make a decision his family, his future,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: like kind of the business, what he wants to do.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: But the one the only thing I know is you
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: can't pay him what he's due. You can't. I can't
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: pay him. He can't play Morsel Darius and you can
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: j three big names now and you might tell Andrew
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: normal they are caught the big name today unique in Goquay.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: And he had some comments after the game last night
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: when it was asked about his future in Jacksonville. Are
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: you willing to listen to the Jags or do you
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: not want to even do that? In like I said,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I man for four years, I learnt a lot, you know,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: what I mean. Business is business and uh, I'm not
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: sure what the future holes. Like I said, man, I
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: learned a lot about this organization for being here for
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: four years business business, and I don't know the future,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Like I said, a man for four years and learned
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: a lot about this organization the business business. I've been
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: here for four years and learned a lot. Was that
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: the answer that it was the answer to every question
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: about the future for him in Jacksonville. And of course
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: it translate that it's if they pay me, I'm staying.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: If they don't, I'm going unless they tag me. Well,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: you tag them if you're jackson of course, and not
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: that you don't not that by tagging, I'm not saying
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: you don't try to get any long term deal done.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: But you tag him so you have some leverage. It's
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: about leverage, you tag him. Can I can I interject
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: something here? I think this deal is more likely to
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: get done now that Tom is gone. Just from stuff
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: I've heard and was told, I think this deal is
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: much more likely to get done now that Tom's gone.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: How much would you pay him? That's a tough one, tony,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: because that's that's the one. Look, am I paying him.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: He turned down. He had a better year than DeMarcus
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Lawrence did. Okay, Pete, he has yeah, he turned down
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: nineteen million in the last two years. He has a
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: total of seventeen sacks. Or you have nine last year
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: and nine and a a half I know you eighth this year. Um,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: So he had seventeen seventeen and a half sacks in
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: two years. He is identity, He's a he's a splash player.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: He is a guy who plays his tail off. He's
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: you know, he's the perfect guy as far as taking
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: care of his business. You want him in the locker room.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: He had nine and a half last year, eight this year.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: So seventeen a half sacks and two years. Are you
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: paying twenty million plus for that? Pete? For an average
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: of so he's he's how many he has thirty seven
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: total sacks? I think it is seven and a half.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: So over four years he's averaging under tenure, under ten
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: s accident year. And that's what he is. He's a
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: pass rusher. It's not I mean, he he is. He
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: played the run better this year, without a doubt, But
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: it's not like he's not that's not where he's that's
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: not his strength. So for and so for nine and
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: basically he's averaging nine and a half sacks a year
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: over four years. Are you paying twenty he turned down nineteen.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: I've already wants twenty one. Are you paying that? Let's
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: put it this way. De Marcus Lawrence just got it
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: last year and he has fifteen and a half sacks
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: in the last two years, including five this year. Uh.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: In the last three years he has twenty four and
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: five twenty nine. Frank Clark has twenty one in the
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: last two years, and he got it. Now are they
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: better run players than he is? Pray Clark is for sure. Uh? Yeah,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: And I'd say de Marcus Lawrence is too. But when
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: you pay a guy like that, you're not paying him
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: for his run defense. You know that, So you pay
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: him twenty one? I b I almost think it's one
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: of those you're damned if you do and damned if
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: you don't. I'm asking you, Pete, Mr wanna be I
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: tag him. I would tag him and the tag on
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: the tags go to seventeen this year, I tag him
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: and then see what he does and then if he
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: goes out and has because he took a while to
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: get going this year, that could easily been double digit side.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't he hurt early in the season for about the Yeah,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: but he was also hurt like he wasn't the same
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: guy earlier in the season. You can see that, So
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: that could easily have been ten ten and a half.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: So you're you're pere leading towards paying Hi. Here's why, Tony,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: I think when you come to the line of scrimmage
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: in the NFL, you know this as well as anybody.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: You got one guy over here you can rush the
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: pastor you've got another guy over here can rush the pastor.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: That's a foundation for your defense. That gives you in
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: the current NFL, gives you the ability to go chase
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: down quarterbacks. If you get rid of him, then everything
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: becomes all about Alan and you don't have to you
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: have one. Now, could you find one in the draft? Maybe,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: but aren't you better off bringing him back on a
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: tag or getting a deal done to have an Alan
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: in there? Then you maybe you get Klais on a
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: cheap deal or a cheaper deal, and then you go
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: draft Derek Brown from Auburn put him inside. David Bryant's
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: actually played well the last month and he was pretty
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: good yesterday just from the TV taper looked like, I
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: don't want to break it to you, but Derek Brown
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: is not gonna be there at nine. He might be.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: He might be tony. I mean he might be. And
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: then and then you can get or if you take
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: an offensive lineman there, come back into defensive lineman at
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: the top at the at the next pick. The bottom
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: line is, I think if you can get a big
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: power inside player to go with that group, you have
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: the foundation of a heck of a front, and I
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: think they need that. So I'm thinking I would be
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: concerned if I let that lead the building. It's gonna
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: go get sixteen seventeen sacks somewhere else on a then
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: maybe sixteen and twelve with thirteen on a consistent basis.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: That would be my concerned. What if he doesn't sign
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: the tender, well, then he's then he's getting bad advice.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: He's not gonna make any money right right then. The
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: bottom line is you're a year, an earning year is
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: going off your body. You only have so many left
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: in him. Uh, he would sign it. So the one
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: thing is, if I'm bringing him back, I'm tagging him
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: and trying I'm trying to work out a deal. But
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tag him. Um, because if you tag him,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: the other thing is if you struggle to get a
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: deal done, you can trade him the what could you
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: get for him? In theory, Well, they got a one
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: for Frank Clark, You're not getting one for him, but
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: you might get a team and desperate team and in
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: need that takes its close of a pass rush year.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Do you think Frank Clark's better? Uh? Unique, he's yes,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: just this year. He probably hasn't because he's been hurt
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: all year. But I think healthy he's a little bit
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: better than him. Yeah. Us. But one thing for sure
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: is if I'm not playing I'm not playing Yahn at
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: defensive end stand up guy when you can play Allen
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: in that position. Do I'm playing him as a sam
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: linebacker in first and second down and then and Nickel,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: I'll put his hand on the ground, let him rest
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: a passer. I just don't think he's big enough to
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: hold up playing and play out. It's it's not his strength. Uh.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: He was better this year to play a you know,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: hand in the ground defensive end line up and on
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: tight on a tight end and a sixth technique just
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: I mean getting double team. I mean that's not his strength.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: He's not John is not a big man. He's an
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: athletic man. He's a powerful man, but he's not a
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: big guy. What is he? Six one? Yeah? Right right
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: at that So he should be playing or are in
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: the three four principles because you're not really three four.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: He should be standing up with the other book end
• 32:05
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• 32:10
  Speaker 1: the way, j K. In that scenario, you get Josh
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Allen on the field more than his usual snaps a game.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: So I'm all for then. I think you gotta play
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: to what you have. Here's the other thing. He's only
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: twenty four now, he's young, young guy. We'll come back.
• 32:30
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• 32:33
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  Speaker 1: starter this year, Nick Foles oh and four as a starter.
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  Speaker 1: You just heard from Nick there he's does it sound
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  Speaker 1: I mean unless he's willing to take a pay cut
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• 38:17
  Speaker 1: this morning with Dan and Jeff. They asked me why
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: was the offense so much more dynamic, explosive, And one
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: of the things I said, I said, you know, Leonard
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Fournette wasn't in there. And Leonard Fournette had a great
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: year this year, great year, fabulous and everything you ask.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: But it felt like, and if you go look at
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: the first fifteen plays that were scripted, they threw it
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: much more that came out throwing it, moving the pocket,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: getting to going, and it felt like that they weren't
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: trying to force the offense through Leonard. Now that's not
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Leonard's fault. He just he does whatever they call. But
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: I I wonder not only D Flippo can answer this.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Did d Filippo feel like he had to get Leonard
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: going early in games and because of that, trying to
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: force everything on the ground, everyone knowing that loading the
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: box make it very difficult for Leonard to run the ball,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: where this week it felt like it was much more
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: opened up. That was just a feeling I had watching
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: the game. It did. It did feel much more opened up.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: The backs looked because Leonard has had a good year,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: but the backs looked quicker, more explosive. Is that accurate? Um?
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: I didn't come away thinking they're more explosive or quicker.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: I came away feeling like I came away feeling like D.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Filippo's said, we don't have our star back in there,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: so we're gonna end up spread it out and do
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: some different stuff. That's what it felt like to me.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: But you didn't think that there was a significant drop
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: off to those backs because I didn't. Um. I mean,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: in fairness the letter, Now he had seventy six catches
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: and but Armstead caught the ball. He did have the
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: one drop he caught the ball out of the back here.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Let's say he did. But I mean Leonard had over
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: a thousand yards. Leonard had a good year. I'm gonna
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: give him credit. I just don't think there's a significant
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: amount of difference. But I say that about most backs
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: like Armstead played. You think arms had played the same
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: amount of reps that Leonard did. The numbers, he would
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: have had a thout, he would have a thousand yards.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he would have seventy catches or
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: whatever Leonard had, but he might have had fifty. Interesting,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: and I don't know that. I mean it. Backs are
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: so interchangeable. I want to go to go to the
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Eagles game yesterday. Jordan Howard wasn't playing, Miles Sanders got hurt.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Boston Scottland in there and ran wild. They picked them
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: up off the scrap peep. So you're saying, any back
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: and go in there and do it, not any back.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: I just don't think the difference is that. You don't
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: think there's that big a difference between Christ McCaffrey. And
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: that's different. Now you're talking about a thousand thousand guy.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: That's a different, entirely different animals. How about the backs
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: in Seattle last night. They can go in anywhere, right,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch, here he comes. How about Marunlynch? About Marshawn Lynch.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: He came in and rushed for three point under three
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: yards per carry. Meanwhile, the other kid had six that
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: you pick up in the fifth, sixth round is a
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: rookie who was the better back in that game? Marsha
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Lynch hasn't played football like a year, but he's not
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: a better But everybody's going crazy, Homer was a better
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: player last night. Okay, but that's kind of the point.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Those guys that are that are around this time of year,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: there's a million of them. You know, certainly don't draft
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: one fourth overall. Is there a back in the league
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: today that you draft fourth overall? McCaffrey would be one
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: of them, But even then, I wouldn't the position of
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: the value, The position isn't there. I'm not taking the
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: back of that not if I need what if I needed?
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: If I have a choice between Von Miller and Christian McCaffrey,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: who am I take it? Miller? Okay, I'm gonna go
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: through every position. Okay, let's do this all right. Quarterback,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: you're always taking quarterback, Julio Jones, Christian McCaffrey. The way
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: the game is played, I'd rather that Julio, Jon George Kittle,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Chris McCarey. That one's tough for me, but I'd probably
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: take McCaffrey, Kelsey or McCaffrey. No tight end, although there
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: aren't a lot of tight ends, so it's tough. It's
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: a tough position to fix. So it's a coin for
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: you there. Yeah, Okay, Lane Johnson right tackle or one
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: of the better I just say, because he's one of
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: the better ones. Or Mitchell Swartz or I take I
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: take the tackle, Zach Zack Martin a right guard, or
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. I probably take McCaffrey, r Rodney Hudson at
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: center for the Raiders or any other good centers out there,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: or Christian McCaffrey. I probably take a center, Quintin Nelson,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Quittin Nelson or McCaffrey. I probably take Quittin Nelson. I
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: want my line, I can I can run the ball off.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: My line is good, Tyrone Smith Smith for sure. Okay, alright,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: so we went through all those. Uh you already said
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: von miller Um. Aaron Donald Aaron Donald or that's okay,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Bobby Bobby, Bobby Wagner or Christian McCaffrey. Bobby Wagoners have
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: played great this year, you know what I'm saying. Darius,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Darius Leonard or Christi McCaffrey. Probably take McCaffrey. Okay, uh,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Stephan Gilmore and McCaffrey Gilmore. Who's the best safety in
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: football right now? Durwin James or McCaffrey, Irwin j soy
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: that one's kind of that one's kind of closed safety,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: kind of close. But the value positions pass rusher, whether
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: he's inside, outside tackle, center a great center, really you know,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: don't you You know how valuable those guys are. And
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: then the big play receiver. I don't think do you
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: that Michael Thomas or Christian McCaffrey, Michael Thomas. See, that's
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: the thing. The only one I might disagree is is
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: the receiver. Because a great running game, who can a
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: guy McCaffrey that can catch it in the backfield? That's tough.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: If I look at the teams that can't have don't
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: have that re Look at the Patriots, imagine they had
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Michael Thomas on their team. Go look at the teams
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: that can't run the ball, Pete. The teams you can
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: run the ball in the playoffs, they run the ball
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: because their lines are good. All I'm saying is the
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: difference between this running back and one and fifteen. For example,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: we came into the season thinking David Johnson was a
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: top ten running back. He's not even the number one
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: running back on his own team anymore. He might not
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: be the second running back on his own team anymore.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: That's That's all I'm saying is I think the value
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: of the position and the difference between one and twenty
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: isn't that great. Whereas if you look through, you go
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: to Aaron Donald's position, and you go the difference between
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: one and twenty. You're talking about Aaron Donald and David Bryant.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: So what are the what are the what are the
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: what positions are you not taking in the top ten
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: of a draft? You're not taking running back? Not taking
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: running back? I'd be I'd be here's my philosophy on
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: the guard unless he's unreal, And I'd be hard pressed
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: to take the guard because I think you could take
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: a college tackle in the third or fourth round and
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: move him inside and make him a guard. I believe
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: that I've seen it happen. It's happened all over the league.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Guys like Yonda, Um, you know, Zack Martin, all those
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: guys they moved inside because they weren't good enough to
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: play tackle, but they could play guard. Let's come back,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: let's do We'll take a look at the draft order. Okay,
• 46:21
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• 46:25
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  Speaker 1: Tony Baselli. Jacks finished the season six and ten. Uh that,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, of course, the regular season over now,
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  Speaker 1: So that means the top twenty draft selections are and
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  Speaker 1: we know all the teams were gonna play now next year.
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  Speaker 1: That's correct. Also, let's get to the draft. The first
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati one, Washington, Detroit, the Giants, Dolphins, Chargers, Panthers, Cardinals
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: or eight. The Jaguars now have the ninth overall pick.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: So if we will have overall pick via the Los
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Angeles Rams, so nine and twenty. If we were to
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: lost that game, six six, I believe it could have
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: been could have been six. Are you only win the
• 51:04
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• 51:06
  Speaker 1: they lose the game for draft pick. It depends what
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  Speaker 1: how I have on You can change hands. As a
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  Speaker 1: player or coach. I want to win the game, especially
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  Speaker 1: as a player, because like as a player, you don't
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: care about draft picks or any of that nonsense. I mean,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: you just don't care. And and I never understood as
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: a player how you go out on the field, especially
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: in the game of football, not just like you better
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: go hard, you better be physical, You better you know,
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: go full speed. Otherwise bad things happen, people get hurt,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: You get hurt. And so as a player, I didn't
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: care about the draft. And I think as a coach,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: especially when you're you know, fighting for your job and
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: everything else, I don't think you care about the draft
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: pick either. You want to win the GM. It's depending
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: on where you sit. If you're a GM, I think
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: who is solidified in their role and everything else, I
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: think you're secretly in the back of your mind saying,
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: if we lose this, I'll be okay with that, get
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: a better draft pick. Owner fans, I, I would think
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: you're want to as I think its the GM and
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: the owner of the team. You want to win that
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: game just because winning is way better than losing. But
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: then if you take the big picture in the in
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: the account, you're saying, I'd much rather be picking six
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: than nine. How about if you're the Dolphins, you lose,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: you win five games to surprise everybody, and the tanking's
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: all out of the window, and you still end up
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: with the top five pick. That's a good season for
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Well, but here's the other thing. You know,
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: I think you agree with this unless there's that quarterback
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: that you know you just want where you need to
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: get him at one or two or you know, depending
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: on the number of quarterbacks. Doesn't it more than anything
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: about coming it's about picking the right guy. Because listen,
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: Luke Jocoll, number two overall pick, how did that work out? Not? Well?
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: Not very good? That was that? Was it all draft?
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm not even thinking of the draft.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying about getting the right guy back that draft,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: but yes, Bards didn't in the long run, did not
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: work out. It never did. Did he got a new deal? Okay,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: but it didn't correct uh Fowler, wrong guy got hurt.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: But it was never the right guy for this. It
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: didn't work out. You trade him, got on a third
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: or fifth round or whatever it was third and fifth.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Maybe Jalen Ramsey, great player, got two first rounders, but
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: not here. He's not here? What about Tyson Lalla? Yeah,
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, you go through it. It's about picking the
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: right guy more than anything. It's whether you're six or nine.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Pick the right guy, meaning pick a good player, because
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: all the time you've great players come in the middle
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: of the first, end of the first Yes, you'd rather
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: have higher picks. It gives you, you know, a better
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: opportunity to pick the guy you want. But I think
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: you know outside the quarterback man, just get the right guy,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: the guy that fits what you want to do. That's
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: a good player that loves football. Josh Allen and pick
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: that guy. Josh Allen's that that seems like yeah, and
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: he fell to them. I mean that was like a surprise.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: They didn't think they're going to get him. Or you
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: can go through the history of the draft for this
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: team or any other team. Yes, if you're not in
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: the playoffs, you want to have a higher pick, without
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: a doubt. But just just having a higher pick does
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: not guarantee you you get the right guy. And we've
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: seen that, and that's I'm not taking a shot at anybody.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: That's just that's a fact. And so I'd rather be six.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: But I felt good to win yesterday. So we're nine.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Would you consider packaging picks to move up at all? No,
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: you need two players instead of one. I think there's
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: enough holes in this roster right now, and the roster
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: has enough issues that you need multiple players, multiple starters.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: You need to pick starters. You have three picks in
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: the first forty picks or forty one picks the right, Yes,
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: three in the first forty one. You need three starters.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: You need to pick three starters with those guys, they
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: have to be good starters next year. That's a lot.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: That's where I mean. When you have a bunch of
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: draft picks that you picked no longer on your team,
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: and yeah, I think you have to keep the picks.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: I don't think you package, but I mean, I mean,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: you disagree, you need three starters out of this draft.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question about that. To rebuild
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: the foundation of the of the of the team for
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: a quarterback, you're not doing if you have to get
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: a name or do a lot of these guys and
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: somehow Folds is not around. I don't know one of
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: the rookies, one of the guys. You're not gonna give
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: up your whole draft to go up to one to
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: get Burrows. I already told you I think about uh
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: to a. I worry about the injuries. Herbert from Oregon
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: is big arm guy, wildly inaccurate easan. You gotta do
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: a lot of work on him, so you know how
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: that always goes. Though they kind of talk him and
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: then they end up at the top of the draft
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: board on draft night. A lot of times they do,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: so I would not I don't think. I mean, I'm
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: gonna do the work. I would do the work on
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. But I think I'm getting hopefully three starters
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: with those tops. I'm starting to rebuild the roster, rebuild
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: some depth, and uh see what and see what meant
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: you can do this year and if that and then
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: maybe have to draft the quarterback next year, Our one
• 56:43
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  Speaker 1: top ten guys rather better. So it obviously means something
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  Speaker 1: to you. What does that do to I don't know. Um,
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  Speaker 1: remember that Gardner meant you in the locker room today,
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  Speaker 1: discussing his thoughts on his statistics and wins versus other
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  Speaker 1: rookie quarterbacks totals this year. A second hour of Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hour underway. J P. Shadrick, Tony was Selly, Pete Prisco.
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  Speaker 1: This is our final Monday show of the season. We
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  Speaker 1: will not have any more after thank goodness. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: I like his cockiness and it's pretty. He's got a
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  Speaker 1: little something to him, right, Pete, I like it. I
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  Speaker 1: like it. I would said the same thing better. You're
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  Speaker 1: just as good as a better. You know, it's just
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  Speaker 1: and they took it a little shot. I won more
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  Speaker 1: than any of them. I think that's great. I think
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  Speaker 1: he believes in himself and I think that's good. Quick
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  Speaker 1: note a couple quick notes. Number nine draft picks in
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  Speaker 1: recent years. Two of note Luke Keikley, Tyron Smith. Can
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  Speaker 1: we have those two right now? Yeah? You wish? And
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  Speaker 1: the last time the Jaguars picked number nine, you know
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  Speaker 1: they picked No, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say Tyson, Nope,
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  Speaker 1: he was ten. Reggie Williams. Wow, I think I'll take Keikly.
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  Speaker 1: You think I mean there's I just look to see
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  Speaker 1: if what kind of player you get in the nine spot.
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  Speaker 1: There's a nice mix there. You get two great players
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  Speaker 1: like that, you have a couple like Leonard Floyd was
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  Speaker 1: in the nine spot. He's not a bad player, he's
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  Speaker 1: not a great player. Uh D Milner was kind of
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  Speaker 1: a bust in that spot. So you get a mix
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  Speaker 1: of guys at number nine. But those are the two
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  Speaker 1: best in the last fifteen years. So what does Gardner
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  Speaker 1: mince you need to do in your mind to be
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  Speaker 1: the guy to be a franchise quarterback that you can
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  Speaker 1: go with, because all that matters. I mean, here's you know,
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  Speaker 1: everyone says you know, well you can win? You know
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  Speaker 1: has mint you? Is he the guys that folls? Here's
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  Speaker 1: my question, is that individual who's playing quarterback for you?
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  Speaker 1: Does he have the ability and the capabilities to win
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  Speaker 1: a trophy? We're you're sitting there holding the party trophy
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the year. Can he win the
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  Speaker 1: big one? Can he get you there? And can he
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  Speaker 1: win it? Well? I think he'd have to have a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of stuff around him, go right. I like what
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  Speaker 1: I saw from him yesterday more than any game I've
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  Speaker 1: seen him play, including the early ones. I thought he
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  Speaker 1: was more decisive the ball came out, he read the
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  Speaker 1: field better. It was vertical to Pete, Yeah, it was much.
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  Speaker 1: This was the game that me and I told you
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  Speaker 1: last week. I thought, I don't know, he's a backup.
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  Speaker 1: He stood in there and the throws. He just looked
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  Speaker 1: much more comfortable in this game, and he looked like
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  Speaker 1: a guy that could be a starting quarterback in the NFL,
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  Speaker 1: and and up until yesterday, I wasn't so sure about that.
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  Speaker 1: Give me two things he has to improve to be
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  Speaker 1: pocket presence first and foremost for me, and by that
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  Speaker 1: I mean the fanom pressure at times he felt and
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  Speaker 1: yesterday he was better at it, but you still see
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  Speaker 1: glimpses of it. That's number one. Um Number two is
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  Speaker 1: probably identifying the coverages because I thought there were times
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  Speaker 1: where he got tricked at points in this season, and
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  Speaker 1: that comes with playing. I think as he plays, he's
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  Speaker 1: a smart kid, he'll get better at it. Is your
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  Speaker 1: arm strength still a knock? Yeah, that's the one thing.
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  Speaker 1: I still think. His arm needs get a little bit
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  Speaker 1: stronger so he can drive the ball down the middle
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  Speaker 1: of the field. This was the first game in the
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  Speaker 1: second half that we saw him work in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of the field between the hashes. Do you do you
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  Speaker 1: think that he doesn't work the middle of the hashes
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  Speaker 1: because he knows his arm isn't that good. Either that
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  Speaker 1: or he can't see it. You know, he's not the
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  Speaker 1: biggest guy. You know. You know Drew Brees, you ever
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  Speaker 1: talked to you know, listen to Drew Brees. He sees
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  Speaker 1: it through lanes and he learned to be able to
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  Speaker 1: see through lanes, and and he's so good and he
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  Speaker 1: knows what's happening down the field. He can anticipate and
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  Speaker 1: see it. And he told me through one year he
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  Speaker 1: threw a hundred and something passes without seeing the receiver
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  Speaker 1: because he knows the coverage and he knows where the
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  Speaker 1: receiver is supposed to be, and they rep it and
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: rep and repping. I think you got to do that
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  Speaker 1: with Minshew. It's got to get to something like that.
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  Speaker 1: He's got to be one of those cerebral quarterbacks asked
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: to get stronger. You're right, excuse me, no question about that.
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  Speaker 1: That's the only I mean, that's the big question I
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: have with Gardner is can he develop a little more.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like it's not like he's a super weak arm,
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  Speaker 1: But can you just get that one extra notch where
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  Speaker 1: he can drive it in the middle of the field,
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  Speaker 1: and can he get proficient enough and reading defenses because
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: he's not always gonna see it over the middle because
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: all the bodies in front of the big offensive linement,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: because he's not a big man. Where he can get
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: proficient and understanding defenses and see it through the lanes
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: and be able to work the entire field. How do
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: you work on arm strength? Doesn't weight room stuff? Is
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: it on the throwing? I mean it worked for him.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: Whatever he did. Yeah, whatever. I'd start talking to Drew Brees,
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  Speaker 1: Tom Brady, those type of guys say hey, what do
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: you guys do? Because well they don't. You remember Drew
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: Brees came out of Ford with the knock that his
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: arm wasn't good enough and then he tore his rotator
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: cuff and labor him and everything else and he had
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: to rebuild his arm and he was the bionic man.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah he's not. And Drew has never had the strongest arm,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: but it's good enough. He can drive the ball down
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, you have to be able to drive
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: the ball. I think first and foremost, that's number one,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: and that you're right, Tony, that's a big issue. But
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: you got amid. Pocket presence and deciphering defenses are two
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: other problems for him. Well. The the recognition of defenses
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: you have to believe and because he's smart, is going
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: to improve with experience. He'll just have seen things and
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: he is very cerebral. Um. The pocket presence, Yeah, I
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: know what you're saying, Pete, but I thought it was
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: great yesterday. I thought at times at the beginning of
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: the year, he's very good. He went on, he went
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: to a stretch where he was trusting his legs too much,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: so it was real quick, and yesterday you saw him
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: take a deep breath, go through the progressions and run
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: much less than we had seen leading up to the
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: game against the Colts. It was also protected better. I thought, well,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: that helps you gotta Yeah, that's why we're talking about
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: he probably need a draft. An offensive line maybe too.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: We were talking about this on the postgame show last
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: night of the offensive lineman, how many are back starting
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: next year? Taylor Slender and Taylor I think Norwell's coming back.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know that I think he's coming back. He
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: might have to take a cut or restructuring or skimming
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: or whatever they want to call it. Right now. He
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: has to be willing to do that. But if you
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: go look, you got look at his overall grades. Um,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: I think it wasn't bad. It wasn't it was it
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: was above average. I think either you draft a left tackle,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: move Cam inside or let him compete for the left
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  Speaker 1: tackle job, or if you don't get a left tackle
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: in the draft, that you're think it can be that starter.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: I would move Will Richardson out to left tackle, where
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: he started the first two weeks of the season. I
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: thought he played pretty well, and I'd make an open
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: competition between Cam Robinson and Will works Like. I just
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: looked at a mock draft that had them picking number
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: nine and they had him taking Ceedee Lamb with Andrew
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: Thomas the left tackle on at Georgia on the board.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: I can't see that happening in a million years. Um,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: I would not think so. I think that would be
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: a mistake. And then they had him taking a corner
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: with pick I mean, you look at this, You look
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: at this team right now, they couldn't stop the run
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: because of the front seven. I think the linebackers aren't
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: very good right now, and you have a front with
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: the lost Darius and he's getting older. We talked about
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: class getting older. Yournique is not a big run stuffer.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: I think Josh Allen can be outstanding at it. Uh
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: Taman Bryant. Bryant's is two up and down. Still uh
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: showed some flashes of some good stuff. Avery had his
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: best year when he was a rotational player, not the
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  Speaker 1: starter his best years, So I really think you need
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: big people. I would focus on the middle of the defense,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: defensive tackles, middle linebacker, safety. Wait, so you're you're drafting
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: a middle linebacker and admitting that the paying thing Miles
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: Jack was a mistake. Then well, I'm moving him to
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: will because I don't think he's the middle line Then
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: you're admitting that drafting Quincy Williams was a mistake. I'm
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: moving him to will. I don't think he's a middle linebacker,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: and I think you need to draft a middle linebacker.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: Well Tony. If they go to a three four hybrid look,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: he might too be We say it might be too
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: little for the inside on that defense. But Lavante David
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: made a nice transition to playing it in Tampa for
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: top bowls. Who you're saying, who might be too little
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: for that? Jack Jack Pete? Have you seen him lately?
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: There's nothing little about him. He was actually but yeah,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: he's gained some weight. Uh, there's nothing nothing. Yeah, it
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: looked like he did and I know he's had problems
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: with that in the pass. So but so could you
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: play him in that role next to another linebacker with
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: god Way and Alan as your edge guys in that
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: situation and you would play and if you brought class down,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: he would be one of the down guys. Avery Jones
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: might be one and maybe Tavin Bryan would be the other.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: So you now you're so are you saying if you
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  Speaker 1: were you'd get rid of Todd Wash I'd consider it.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't think if you're Doug Brown you can
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  Speaker 1: get rid of your coordinators if you're back, because I
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  Speaker 1: think it's really hard to hire top end coordinators if
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: they know it's a one year, proven type of deal.
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  Speaker 1: And what if that's what they want in terms of
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  Speaker 1: him to do is to get rid of his coordinators
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  Speaker 1: and go find new ones again, I think it's hard
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  Speaker 1: if you don't have a multi year commitment to go
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  Speaker 1: get the good coaches because the really the top end
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  Speaker 1: coaches have options, well, the top end ones do. But
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  Speaker 1: San Francisco took a took Robert Sala off the pract
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  Speaker 1: off the jag Wars thing, and made him into a
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  Speaker 1: heck of a Coach's he's getting now, he's getting Now,
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  Speaker 1: he's getting head coaching interviews, second times the chart I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna job beaton. So I love that. I know what
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  Speaker 1: it is. It's solid. But you know what I'm saying
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  Speaker 1: that that, to me is like somebody who could find
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  Speaker 1: somebody like that? Will you to take a one year deal?
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: I probably won't take a one year deal, but if
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: he's good enough, they might keep hell and might make
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: him the head coach? Yeah? Maybe, I mean let me
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: see what. Yeah, Josh Allen, yesterday, how many snaps do
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: you think I would say, you're low? It's thirty two.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: It's not enough. Well, you did get a stinger. He
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: missed a couple of series. I think there are fifty
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: six snaps on defense by the way. Yeah, so he played,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: he played, he played, Yesterday was okay. Yesterday was better
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: because not a lot of guys played that many snaps.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: Will you admit that will you say admit we want answers.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: Tony was good yesterday. This is the only game I
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: haven't watched the tape of all year. When you were
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: at the game, you saw him, I mean, look good
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: here a couple of splash players. Absolutely, to me, his
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: is a consistency issue, and he got better throughout the year. So,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's no doubt about that forced fumble. I
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: don't even think he saw it come out. He was
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: getting ready to dance he kicked it. Quick question, are
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison and Jared Wilson the starting safeties in two
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: thousand and twin I think you got to draft a safety.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: I agree. So you need a corner, a safety, a
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: line middle, linebacker, and a big body on defense. Might
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: as well just overhaul the whole damn thing. That's where
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: we are. Let's come. You need on offense, it's a
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: line tight end, maybe two Titans. You need a back
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: or two at least one back, wide receiver, playmaker, wide receiver,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: maybe like wide receivers down the line. For me, the
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: Jones kid looked like a big body guy or something
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: in the last eight months around there the end, it
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: didn't stand out to me. Pete but I was, you know,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: maybe how do he look like he was decent in
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: the run game? He's a good he's a good run blocker.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: It was always the book. He's a very good run blocker.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: So maybe another maybe another tight end and but you
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: need you need someone dynamic that worked. You know, in
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  Speaker 1: That family is breaking up. This family stays together. That's right. Uh?
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  Speaker 1: Do you buy the carry over winning the last game?
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  Speaker 1: And no, no, never teams? How could it carry over?
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  Speaker 1: Space contorted like a like you just said. You used
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't carry over doesn't. I don't think it either.
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  Speaker 1: what it is now and win that last one? Come on?
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't carry over? So the teams that losing the postseason
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  Speaker 1: that carries over to No, it does. None of it
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  Speaker 1: carries over. It's it's it's hardly different teams. They're how
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  Speaker 1: many guys are gonna be starting in the same spot
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  Speaker 1: going in the next year through it? Okay, starting quarterbacks
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  Speaker 1: going to be Yeah. Defense first, I don't think boy
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  Speaker 1: Boy will not be back. I do not think. I
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: think one of the two safeties will be starting. One
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: of them. I Trey Herndon will be starting. I think two.
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  Speaker 1: D J. Hayden will be your nickel. That's three. I
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: think uh Josh Allen, four, Tavin is gonna be starting.
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  Speaker 1: Five Miles Miles Jack at a different position at will. Okay, um,
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna name a three of the five
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: offensive linemen. N We'll say three, nine, uh chark ten
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  Speaker 1: for that eleven. That's it. So it's entirely Gibberdine and say, well,
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  Speaker 1: one of the quarterbacks, the quarterback who's starting is on
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: the roster, So eleven, let's say eleven or twelve, right,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: not a lot for carry over. It's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: new a lot of new faces. By the way, you
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: asked me if Norwell was the highest rated offensive player,
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: he is not for the season. Who is Pete lindernd
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: Brandon Linder? The number two ranked offensive player is for
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: the season was DJ Chark. Worst grade of all the
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: players on the offense went to of the starters. They
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: gave well Cam Robinson at a terrible grade. He had
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: to by far the worst grade. But A. J. Cann's
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: grade wasn't good, and they gave Taylor a bad grade.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: Who's the highest rated defensive player for this season? It's
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: easy place, Yeah, it's easy. Who second? I bet to Trey?
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  Speaker 1: Herndon's up there pretty high. He's not. He's number one,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: Klaas number two. Here we go. Jackson will have at it.
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  Speaker 1: Davin Bryant number three, DJ Aiden number four. No. Number
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: three is unique and Gagway number four is d J.
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  Speaker 1: Hayden number five is um the rest of all read.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: So I'm trying to look you said, Trey Herndon. No,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: not even close. So I'm not gonna get the PFF
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: like I think they're great, that they're analytics, all the
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: data they put together, trends, and he always has to
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: preface it by saying that I do. But however, they're grades.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: I think it's hard to grade a player when you
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: don't know what their assignment is. But you can look
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: at the body of work and say this guy is
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: in the minus for the season, you would David Brian
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be the number two player on that defense in
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: any way, shape or form. No, that's my point. If
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: you look at the defense, no one's gonna say the
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: second best player on the defense is David Bryant or
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: the guy who had the second best year on defense. Okay, here,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: here's even better. The second best run defensive grade on
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: the team with the Tavin Bryant. Well they didn't. None
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: of them played well against the run this year, but
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: run defensive grade. But that's it. Let's get to some
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: social questions. Um let's start off with at j Matt Moore.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: I think the case can be made that minshe played
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: better than all the first round quarterbacks. While he's certainly
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: has been rather inconsistent in times bad? Do you think
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: that says something about his ceiling? What would each of
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: you do about the quarterback situation if you were GM.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: We touched on this earlier, but let's rehash it again. Pete,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: what would you do? I would try and get Boles
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: to retire, Please, Nick, retire, go spend time with the family.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: That would be my first priority. If he wouldn't do that,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: then I would try and trade him. If I couldn't
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: trade him, then I'd go to camp with those two
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: and go compete for the job with Minshew taken the
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: first snaps totally. You look exhausted. Well, I mean, Pete
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: is like wishing, why would he retire? Pete, He's not
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: gonna walk away from money? Come on, I'm not saying
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: he is. I'm saying I would hope he would. I know.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: But that's why you're You're a bad GM. That's dumb.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: That's a good GM. You're getting that money off the
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: books at the great GM. No, but you're hoping. You
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: don't have a plan. Hope is not a plan, Pete, Hope.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: It's a good thing. My plan wouldn't have included signing
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: into that stupid contract. You have him now. Um, I
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: think you're going to camp with both of them. I
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: don't think I'm not going to trade a draft pick
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: for someone to take a salary. No way, you wouldn't
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: four to take a salary. Five. You just said you
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: wouldn't trade a draft pick. I got you already negotiating
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: you down six seven, Um, I give up a five
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: for I'm going to camp. I'm going to camp Minho
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: as a starter. But it's a competitions who who wins
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: it up? Okay, but then you go into the season. No,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: I'm naming my starter week three, preseason, and that's the guy.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: We're not doing this. You know, he's not looking over
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: his shoulder and we're not doing this Merry brand stuff.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: And I tell the guys going in, whoever wins it,
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: you're the guy for the year. How many of these
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: quarterback competitions are actually real competitions? Um? I think it's
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: the good places they are. I mean, I'll go back
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: to Russell Wilson beat out uh the kid from Green
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: Bay what was his name? Flat beat him out. Well,
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: they're real. They're particularly real when you don't have one.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: I mean in Jacksonville doesn't have one yet. So they
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: gotta find him. So that's why it's a It will
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: be a legitimate competition. But I'm with Tony. The guy
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: who wins it can't be getting yanked in and out
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: and playing tight because he's looking over his shoulder. It's
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: his job, period. Let's move forward. Next question at Hodari eleven,
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: if con let's go more on what coach do you
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: believe will be the best for the organization and what
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: was the biggest blunder this past year. I'm not gonna
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: do that because I don't like talking about other coaches
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: taking a job that is not vacant, especially when it's
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: in our own backyard. I will, I will, Okay, I won't.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: So let me finish Pete. You know, Doug Barron's head coach. Um.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: I think Doug Barrone is a good coach. I think
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: he is a good you know, and you think he's
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: still going to be the head I still think he's
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: gonna be that coach. I'm not gonna let mean that's
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: a dumb question for me. It's a fair question. I
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: just don't like it. What was the biggest blunder? Then?
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: Where do you want to start? Um? Nick Foles signing
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: nick Fole's biggest blunder by far Nick Foles, What do
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: you mean it is? Okay, it is? I mean, okay,
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: see you agree, you would you agree that that's the
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: biggest plunder. Close second, you pay that kind of money
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: to a quarterback and he's sitting on his ass on
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: the bench, that's the biggest plunder. Yeah, close to is
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: did Jalen Ramsey saga? But that one might actually end
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: up working in their advantage. They got rid of Trump.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying for this year, just the whole thing
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: and how it kind of the way things went. And
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: then the actually and I'll say even the bigger blunder
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: than both of those was the run defense that was
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: that was not a good one. You know, I gotta
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: be thinking, is Jalen Ramsey a bad pick now that
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: they netted to one for him? It depends on what
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: those two ones produce. I think we did this the
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: other night, right, I mean the other week where we
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: went through the draft picks and we couldn't really figure
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: out is that a good pick or that I I was
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: a good pick at the time, But you don't know
• 1:28:38
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• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: picks they get are good value and good players. It's
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: a hit. You want to answer the first part of
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: the question, Pete, Yeah, what who would be some of
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: the candidates? I mean you'd have to call Joshua Daniels.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: I think that would make a lot of sense. Um,
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: why wouldn't you call great Roman? Look what he's done.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: Now you have a different offense and different quarterback. But
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: the guy has done some brilliant stuff in Baltimore. I
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: think Kevin Stefanski, the offensive coordinator, Mike McCarthy would be
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: at the top of my list. I'd give Mike McCarthy call.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of guys out there. What about?
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: But I'm with Tony. I think Doug's coming back? What about?
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: And not for here other places? Because again I'm not
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: going to talk about any coaches because Doug is our
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: coach and until we find out out anything different, you
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: know he's the guy we're rolling with. Um, you don't
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: play anymore. It's not your coach. You're in the media, Okay.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: I'm part of the organization. Pete. I'm not selfish. I'm
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: not selfish like you. What about Eric B. Enemy? I
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: love Eric B Enemy. I think Eric Enemy is going
• 1:29:44
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• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: couple other interviews. I think he would be a really
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: good coach. It's an interesting study if you look at
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: Andy Reid's coaching tree, guys who coached for Andy Reid
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: have had a ton of success in the NFL, especially
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: when you compared to other eaching trees. And name me
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: one big one, Bill Belichick. But you look at the
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: guys who coach for Andy Reid. Uh, Hardball, McDermott, Naggy,
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: uh Uh, who's the coach? Verdict? The verdict still out
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: on Naggie. What about the coach? Peterson? Yeah? I agree.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: I think I think Eric b Enemy would be a
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: great coach. I think he's gonna get hired in this cycle.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: How he faces some of the problems that Naggy, you
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: know face was people always say with Andy Reid's offense,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: how do you Why are you down on Naggie? He
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: was coach of the year last year, they won seven
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: or eight games, get a good job this year. That's
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: why he doesn't have a quarterback. Pete Yeah. I also
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: don't like the way he calls games at times. That's
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: it's me. I don't know, maybe he's restricted by the
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: fact that his quarterback isn't good. I think I think
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: Stefanski is going to get in the mix at the
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: Vikings am as a coordinator. Uh, he almost got the
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: Cleveland job last time. He's going to be in that thing.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: There's there's Ron Rivere is getting the Redskins job. That
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: one is pretty much done. And then Matt Rule. You
• 1:31:09
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• 1:31:12
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• 1:31:14
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• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: But after the other night, the guy hasn't had a
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: defense and in his whole entire time there, Well, you don't.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: I mean number one, Jerry does not have to fire
• 1:31:25
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• 1:31:28
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• 1:31:31
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• 1:31:36
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• 1:31:39
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• 1:31:44
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• 1:31:48
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• 1:31:50
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• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: of using the franchise tag. Is this survivable answer to
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: keeping ninety one around for the long term given the
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: other salary cap situations on the team, Why or why not?
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: If you don't sign him long term, you gotta keep
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: him around with that, right and then maybe negotiate again.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: That's your tool. That's a long term solution. It's a
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: short term solution. And uh, I would use it. I
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: would use it. I would use it too. I'm not
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: letting year old pass rusher go out the door. Just not.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: And Tony, you always talk about it. What are you
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: replacing him with? That's right now. He's not gonna be
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: happy though everyone has understand that you sign him to
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: you put the tag on him. Yahn is going to
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: negotiate and come up with a better deal. That just
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: gives you more time to do it. I agree. Next
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: question at Terence L. Hayes, Tony said we should start
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: the offseason with a quarterback competition between fools and Minshew.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: Didn't the team just do this for sixteen games? Was
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: Minshew's performance as the top rookie orderback not enough to
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: at least allow him to lead us into If you
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: listen to what I actually said, I said, Mitschew has
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: the head start. He is. He is just gonna be
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: the guy who's gonna take the first team reps first.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: But I don't buy just riding off Nick Foles because
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: of a two and a half game sample size after
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: you paid him eighty eight million dollars. Now, don't make
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: a decision just because you pay them eight million dollars.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: That's the worst thing that teams can do. But he
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: has a small sample size of what we have seen.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing in training camp, JP, you at every practice, Pete,
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: you came to something I was at a lot of them.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: Was there? Was it even close? When you watched Mintshew
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: and Foals, wasn't even close. It was clear. It was
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: clear that Folds was the better quarterback. He got hurt
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: on the eleventh play, which everyone forgets. He got hammered
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: into a perfect pass. Was taking the first nap next
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: next season in September, I would be. If I was
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: laying money right now, I'm saying I think Minchi wins
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: the battle for entertainment purposes only. Of course, Yeah, I don't.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: I don't bet on sports ever, never, ever, ever, So
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: who would it ever, ever, ever ever justified? Never SELLI
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: who would it be? I think, uh, it's I would
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: have a competition, Like I said, Folds, I mean, mit,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: you was gonna take the first team reps? Uh for
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: the first o t A. They're both gonna have opportunities.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: The better quarterback will play opening day. Right now, I
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: would say I would lean towards it being mints you well,
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: then then that solidifies that the twenty million dollar quarterback
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: was a total disaster. That would probably say that, yes, hypothetically,
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: here Pete, if they do somehow get Folds off the books,
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: they're drafted a guy, right should get down on their
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: knees and thank the high heavens, and then they're drafting
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: a guy. At that point. I'm drafting a quarterback no
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: matter what I am too at some point, and if
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: two is there when I'm picking at nine, I gotta
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: do my due diligence on that injury and go look
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: at him, and I might take him. I don't disagree
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: with how many left handed quarterbacks are there in the
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: league right now, alright many, Well, there's that aging guy
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: Mark Brunell. He's still around is he only played thirty
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: five years? How many years to play like? It's unbelievable.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: God bless him. But there aren't many I think active
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: right now, come to think of it. Yeah, just an
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: oddity of them in history though. Yeah, I'm stablard right
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: left boomer. Yeah, Douglas, Steve Young talk about Bobby Douglas.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: The worst pastor you've ever seen in your entire length?
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: Was it will if you're left handed? Yes, but that
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: would have actually made you a left tackle that at
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: that time? What you m because Mark Burn was left handed?
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: You were? He said, make any sense? You said it
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: backwards feet? That's okay, vital question. This is actually from
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: the game yesterday at jay kun kun too. What was
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: the biggest difference for the offense this game that helped
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: them have greater success? I thought they were more aggressive.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: I thought they played loser. Let's just say it. No,
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: I thought they were more aggressive. They're more vertical. They
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: came out throwing it early, and we heard that team
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: that looked like it didn't care if it turned the
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: ball over with it. They played looser. We well, you
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: all say this. Doug Brown actually said it, so did
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: Flip During that five game stretch, especially at the end
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: of it, that they were going to try to shorten games.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: And I thought they were very conservative. And this is
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: what I said earlier this morning, and some people didn't
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: like the comment. It was on Twitter. I was saying
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: anything negative about Leonard for net. I just felt like
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: they forced it to shorten the game and just to
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: be this very conservative, pounded, just pounded, pounded, pounded, and
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: you know, be very conservative and try not to make mistakes,
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: try to get it into the fourth quarter and see
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: if you can win a football game, which was a disaster.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: You know what that when you say you're going to
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: shorten the game, you know what, that says that you're
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: playing not to lose rather than to win. That's what
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: that is. That's fair. And I thought yesterday they came
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: out and they were way more aggressive. YEP, I agree,
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: and it looked better. Alright, Social questions are Endlet's come back.
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  Speaker 1: So um, speaking up Black Monday today and earlier, obviously,
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: the Panthers fired Ron Rivera. That was December three. That's
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: still vacant, right, Pete, what's the what's the kind of
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: feel in Carolina right now? Offensive young offensive guy or
• 1:42:21
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  Speaker 1: names there, Washington, Redskins, Ron Rivera reportedly in there, and
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: Bruce Allen out Pete Well. I mean, after about forty years,
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: it's time for Bruce Allen to go. And uh, here's
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: this problem. And you guys know this. The problem with
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  Speaker 1: Washington is the owner. That's the problem. And he no
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: matter who he hires, how he hires, the type of
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: coachie hires, he's just not winning. And that's why it's
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: the problem. I'm glad for Ron Rivera. The good news
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: for Ron Rivera is if he does get the job,
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: and it's not finalized yet, uh, he will have control
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: the fifty three men roster. He will also be able
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: to bring in a personnel guy to work with him.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: I think that's very important for him. Pat Sherman out
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: of the Giants. Not not surprising, No, no, it should
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: have happened. Uh. Not a good not a good you
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: know tenure in Cleveland. Not a good tenure with the Giants.
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  Speaker 1: The only thing I could have thought of, if to
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: bring it back, is you have a young quarterback and
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: now you're changing offenses again and so that from that standpoint,
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: sometimes they keep the coach for continuity. That's usually a mistake.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: I think the Giants got it right. Matt Rule, who
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: was born in New York, lived in New York, worked
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: for the Giants at one point with Dave Gentleman. I
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: think he's the leading candidate to go become the coach
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: of the Giants. Freddie Kitchens one and done in Cleveland,
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: and they've got a track record of head coaching changes.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: The haslums as owners. Well, that's it was the wrong
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: higher first of all. But they left Baker Mayfield make
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: the hire. Never you can. You can never allow your
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: quarterback or your players to make the highest Here's the
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: thing that there were five there were five to and one,
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: and everyone gave Freddy Kitchens all the credit, but it
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: was really Greg Williams, who's that coach when they did that,
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: If anything, they should have just kept Greg there as
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: the head coach and like Greg bill the staff. I mean,
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: if you wanted to have continuity based on what you did,
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: you did to finish the season out. But Freddy Kitchens
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: to start last year was a running back coach got
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: the job because Todd Haley got fired mid season and
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: I think they put him in a tough situation and
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: he could well. Yeah, they he was set up to fail.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: He wasn't a he wasn't ready for the job. Be
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: they got all the bells and whistles and forgot to
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: get the meat and potatums. I mean they had one
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: of the worst the right time, that right and left
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: tackle and that team were atrocious, and so you have
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: all those egos on that offense without the ability to
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: protect the quarterback. And then he didn't play well. So, uh,
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: they he was set up to fail. It should have
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: never happened out. Who's going to get the job if
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: you're Josh McDaniels and you grew up thirty minutes away
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: from there. Imagine he grew up a Browns fan. Is
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: that your dream job? And you go back to Ohio
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: and take that job knowing that the Hasms have the
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: quick trigger. I don't know if I would take that.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: If I would, Josh McDaniels, is is Odell Beckham Jr?
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: Gonna be back? Yes? Yes, you don't let that go
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: out to the door. You make the move to go
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: get He did nothing, it was but he just hurt
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: all year two. He had the core muscles, supposedly, it's
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: been bothering me for about six weeks. And the offensive
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: line was terrible. Do you who got the better of
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: that deal, the Giants or the or the of the Browns?
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: What did the Giants good for him? They got Peppers
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: who hasn't didn't work out for him? And what draft
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: picks did they yet? I mean then there was the
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: the trade for uh Olivier Vernon, Remember that one. I
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: think the Giants uh the Brown's first round pick, go Dowell.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: Beckham is a super talented but tell me the last
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: time a team like he helped the team win? Right?
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: Would you take right now? If you were the Giants,
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: You're glad you got the seventeenth overall pick in exchange
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: for for Beckham. Yeah, and Jamielle Peppers played pretty well
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: the first half the season, Pete, Yeah, he played pretty well.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: Strong sas okay, he's okay. But the Giants got the
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: better on the Zeitler for Vernon trade. Absolutely, Yeah, that
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: was a mistake on the part of that that front office.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: But to as you question about Kitchens, he was in
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: over his head. Now they have to go find a
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: guy that can bring that whole thing together. Good luck.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: The the other names that have been declared safe least
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: so far, Adam Gates with the Jets getting more coming
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: back that Patricia with the Lions getting more time. That
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: wouldn't surprised me. That won't surprised me, did it? They? Well,
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: they fired Jim Coldway after to what nine and seven seasons? Mhm?
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: The Falcons brain trust is back. We thought that was
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: gonna happen when you were up there for the you
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: thought that was gonna happen to that team kind of
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: rallied around that guy. They finished, they started one and seven,
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: finished six and two. Yeah. I would have brought him
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: back to him. And you think it's over in Dallas, Yes,
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: whether it's matterhase the semantics of it, whether it's yeah,
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: I I see no no scenario where Jason Garrett's back
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: his head coach. Would you hire Lincoln Riley? Um? I
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: don't know. He's the hot name right now. I don't know.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: Somebody in my office was saying, oh, well, look Kingsbury
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: went there and had success and he couldn't win in
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: the Big twelve. Yeah, because he thought Kingsbury actually did
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: a nice job in Arizona. They didn't win a lot
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: of games, but they got better. But there's a big
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: difference between coaching the Texas Tech and coaching at Oklahoma
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: considering what you have to work with. I think Linco
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: Roley is a really good coach. I think you'd have
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: success in the NFL. But Tony, you know this, you play,
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: it's more about how you handle and doubt your roster
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: in your locker room and delegate as much as it
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: is for xs and ohs. Well, it's your presence, it's
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: your leadership at your ability to get you know, fifty
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: three type A men, have you know or half crazy?
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: I mean all of us are crazy in this game.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: All of us are crazy in the world. So let's
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: let's stop there. But everybody's crazy. But to look at
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: you as the man and say, I'm gonna follow this guy.
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do what he says, I'm gonna do what
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: he asked. I'm gonna play hard for him. I mean,
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: that's the job at the head coach and getting good
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: coordinators right, and if they're an incident, dealing with it,
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  Speaker 1: I just think there's a lot more than just calling plays.
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  Speaker 1: And when you look at Linck and Riley, look, it
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  Speaker 1: looks like he can handle it. But it's a big
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  Speaker 1: difference handling grown men and handling college kids. Who was
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  Speaker 1: the last college coach to go to the NFL and
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  Speaker 1: have success in the NFL? Pete Carroll, Well, he didn't
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  Speaker 1: have success in the NFL right away. Yeah, okay, he
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  Speaker 1: was already a coach in the NFL. No, but he
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  Speaker 1: Left he had already been a head coach at the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: You're missing my point. He came from college. He won
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  Speaker 1: national titles at college. That's not what JP's asking you.
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  Speaker 1: That JP's asking you about the guy who was in
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  Speaker 1: college and took the leap to the NFL. Pete Carroll
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  Speaker 1: had already been in the NFL before he went back
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  Speaker 1: to college. John Robinson did it back in the day
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  Speaker 1: with the Rams. He had success in the Rams. Bill
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  Speaker 1: Walsh did it. Yes, Jimmy Johnson did it. Jimmy Johnson,
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  Speaker 1: Bill Walsh switcher won a Super Bowl. Trying to think
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  Speaker 1: who else has done Yeah, the Switcherody, but Nick Saban
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  Speaker 1: didn't do well doing it? No, who okay, listen, who
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  Speaker 1: are the last ones who actually made the jump? It's
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: been a while well, I mean people you always hear
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  Speaker 1: the the well did it? I mean that was a while? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: What about the NFL too? What about Urban Meyer? Would
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  Speaker 1: he be a good, good NFL head coach? I don't know, Tony.
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  Speaker 1: I think I think he has a presence about him.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's I think he would be. He's organized,
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  Speaker 1: he put together a good staff. I think. Okay, here's
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  Speaker 1: a couple other ones. What do you think. I think
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  Speaker 1: there's a track record of him when the pressure is
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  Speaker 1: really tight, I'll be able to handle the physically. I
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  Speaker 1: hear he's more of an Yeah, he's more of the
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  Speaker 1: delegator the overseers. So that would work in the end.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I said. That's why I think he did.
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  Speaker 1: How about here, I'll give you a couple other ones. Yeah, quick,
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  Speaker 1: Bobby Petrino, that didn't work. Didn't work already, Dennis ericson, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: which Davis, that's right, didn't work. Mike Riley did not work.
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  Speaker 1: June Jones did not work. Chan Galley, Okay, he was
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  Speaker 1: the head coach. Bud Wilkinson didn't work. All right, let's go,
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  Speaker 1: up on wild Card weekend. First of all, four thirty
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  Speaker 1: five on Saturday, the Buffalo Bills at the Houston Texans.
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  Speaker 1: This is a traditional a f C South champion spot
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  Speaker 1: the early game on Saturday. Pe It seems like the
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  Speaker 1: always playing early on Saturday. From that that, because it's
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: smaller markets and people don't care about them. I think
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  Speaker 1: Buffalo goes in there and wins. I think Texans have
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: some issues, particularly on defense, and Tony saw him two
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  Speaker 1: weeks ago. They don't rush the past are well enough.
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  Speaker 1: I think Buffalo's defense is going to limit what Deshaun
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  Speaker 1: Watson does. I like the Bills to win that game. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I'll go with Bills as well. Now the question is
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: is will Fuller playing? Probably not, then I go for
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: Bills for sure. Our next game on Saturday, the big
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  Speaker 1: game in the wild Card weekend and eight fifteen Eastern
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  Speaker 1: times start in Foxborough, Massachusetts, the Tennessee Titans. With Derrick
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  Speaker 1: Henry the league's leading rusher, they head into New England
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  Speaker 1: to face the Patriots and the top defense in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: They're playing on wild Card weekend for the first time
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  Speaker 1: in a decade? Who you got Titans Patriots? First? Welcome?
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: Very good. By the way, did did Jaguars defensive players
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: get the presents from Derrick Henry? You know how running
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: backs usually give their linements some presents Christmas and watch
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  Speaker 1: or something? Did the Jaguars defensive players get something for
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: allowing him to lead the league in rushing? Who? What?
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  Speaker 1: What was this total rushing yards? I forget right, not
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  Speaker 1: my head? Get up? Who you're liking that one? First off?
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  Speaker 1: I like? I like the Patriots. They're gonna take him away.
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  Speaker 1: How about this stat? Bryan tanney Hill is owen six
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  Speaker 1: against the Patriots and he's got five touchdown passes and
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  Speaker 1: ten picks. I'm doing the game, so you're not gonna
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  Speaker 1: make a pick, or you can do that thing where
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: you're not made. I probably shouldn't make a pick, but
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  Speaker 1: I will. I'm going Pats all right? Viking Saints quick?
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  Speaker 1: One word? Saints and Eagles and Eagles Eagles. You have it, Pete,
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  Speaker 1: we'll talk to you soon down the line. Well done,
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  Speaker 1: this as Pete Frisco, Tony Basselli, I'm J. P. Shadrick.
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