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Star Wars Alliance The Mandalorian & Grogu Theories and Predictions CCLXXXIX · Star Wars Alliance

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Speaker 1: The Force will be with you always.
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Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome back to another episode of Star Wars Alliance.
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Speaker 2: Of course, I'm your host, Clay, and with me like always,
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Speaker 2: and a little under the weather is Katie. Katie, I'm
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Speaker 2: sure I can already tell how but how are you doing?
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Speaker 3: You can hear it in my laugh? No, guys, I
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Speaker 3: had completely lost my voice and I'm making a slow recovery.
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Speaker 3: So we're gonna try and keep this one a little
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Speaker 3: bit short so I can continue to recover for our
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Speaker 3: grand live review of Mandalar and Grogu on Friday. Klay,
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Speaker 3: why don't you tell them about that?
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Speaker 2: Yes, of course tonight, of course we're going to be
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Speaker 2: talking about the Mandalorian and Grogu theories and predictions because
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Speaker 2: it is finally releasing. Guys, we are finally getting a
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Speaker 2: Star Wars movie in theaters tomorrow. I am watching it
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Speaker 2: tomorrow at three. I believe Katie is as well.
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Speaker 3: Eight.
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Speaker 2: I might be able to get a second viewing on
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Speaker 2: Friday morning, and then we will record Friday evening at
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Speaker 2: eight pm here right on the gig First YouTube channel,
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Speaker 2: where we will of course review the movie in full.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, and guys, we will be talking like LGBTQ
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Speaker 3: rep diversity, like everything that we typically do for our
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Speaker 3: book review, we will be talking about that for our
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Speaker 3: movie review of bringing it down non spoiler and spoiler.
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Speaker 3: Sorry I like to talk too much.
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Speaker 2: Oh thank you, because I totally forgot to mention that part. Anyway. Yes,
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Speaker 2: if you are newer to the Star Wars Alliance, welcome.
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Speaker 2: But also we review a lot of books and that
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Speaker 2: is kind of our focal point when it comes to reviews.
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Speaker 2: We will, of course, like Katie said, talk about the inclusion.
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Speaker 2: We will talk about character development, how it moves the
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Speaker 2: story forward. Of course, especially with there being so much
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Speaker 2: talk about the future and possibly the non future of
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Speaker 2: the Mando Verse and everything else. We will definitely see
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Speaker 2: how things will progress after watching the movie. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 2: that'll be very very interesting.
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Speaker 3: Oh shoot, I say one more thing.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure now. Uh. We do have some unfortunate news
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Speaker 2: for people who have not heard. As far as our
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Speaker 2: first topic of the day, we lost an icon this week.
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Speaker 2: One of the biggest voice actors in quite possibly uh
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Speaker 2: uh millennial era. This man, of course, being Tom Kane
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Speaker 2: uh had a immense resume. Guys. He of course did
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Speaker 2: voices for Disney Uh. He did a voice over work
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Speaker 2: for Disney DVD was something that I showed Katie. He
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Speaker 2: does the Mono rail narration at uh Disney World. He
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Speaker 2: also does Happily ever After, so when they do all
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Speaker 2: the fireworks and stuff at the very end of the night,
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Speaker 2: Tom Cain is the narrator of that as well. He
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Speaker 2: has done, of course work with Cartoon Network, with Powerpuff Girls,
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Speaker 2: with Home for Imaginary Friends, so much work. But I
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Speaker 2: actually wanted to highlight the work that he's done for
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Speaker 2: Star Wars specifically. I'm I can't name all the characters,
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Speaker 2: but I am gonna name all the titles, Okay. So
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Speaker 2: in his lifetime, tom Kin did work for Shadows of
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Speaker 2: the Empire, X Wing Versus the Fighter, Rebellion, Droid Works
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Speaker 2: Episode one, Insider Guide Episode one, Racer, Phantom Menace, Game,
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Speaker 2: X Wing Alliances, Demolition, Jedi Power Battles, Force Commander, Rogue
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Speaker 2: Squadron two, Rogue Leader, Super Bombard Racing, Starfighter, Galactic Battlegrounds,
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Speaker 2: Clone Wars, Game, Jedi Night two, Jedi Outcast, Jedi Starfighter,
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Speaker 2: Bounty Hunder, Racer, Revenge, Galactic Battlegrounds, Clone Wars two thousand
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Speaker 2: and three, Rogue Squadron three, Rebel Strike, Jedi Knight, Jedi Academy,
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Speaker 2: Knights of the Old Republic, Knights of the Old Republic two, Battlefront,
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Speaker 2: Battlefront two, Revenge of the Sith, video game Republic Commander,
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Speaker 2: Lego Star Wars two, Empire of War, Robot Chicken, Clone Wars,
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Speaker 2: the actual film, Forced Unleashed, Clone Wars, the series, Clone Wars,
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Speaker 2: Lightsaber Duels, Clone Wars, Republic Heroes, Clone Wars, Adventures, Forced
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Speaker 2: Unleashed to the Old Republic, Lego Star Wars three, Clone Wars,
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Speaker 2: Lego Star Wars, padw Menace, Smuggler's Gambit, Connect Star Wars,
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Speaker 2: The Old School three XBOS, three sixty Gimmick, Droid's Jawa Adventure,
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Speaker 2: Lego Star Wars, Empire Strikes Out, Lego Star Wars, The
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Speaker 2: Yoda Chronicles, Pinball, Old Republic, Rise of the Hut Cartel
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Speaker 2: Battlefront twenty fifteen, Force Awakens Old Republican, Knights of the
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Speaker 2: Fallen Empire, Lego Star Wars, Droid Tales, Rogue One, Lego
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Speaker 2: Star Wars, TFA Rebels, Forces of Destiny, Battlefront to the
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Speaker 2: Last Jedi. And you think, oh, you've already said Battlefront two. No,
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Speaker 2: this is the twenty seventeen version Old Republic, Osla Squadrons,
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Speaker 2: Lego Star Wars, Holiday Special bad Batch, and Lego Star
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Speaker 2: Wars sty Walker Saga, And in each one of those
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Speaker 2: the bare minimum is two voices, whereas in something like
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Speaker 2: Clone Wars there is like fifteen to twenty. This man
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Speaker 2: was an icon. This one knew how to work. And
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Speaker 2: it's just like when I saw that he had passed,
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Speaker 2: my my whole world kind of froze for a second.
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Speaker 2: Oh are you muted?
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Speaker 3: Sorry, y'all. I coughed, and I was trying to save
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Speaker 3: Clay at any time, and I forgot it's un him mute.
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Speaker 3: It's a huge loss to the voice acting community. And
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Speaker 3: I know he hadn't voiced anything quite some time because
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Speaker 3: he had this stroke, but it still sucks to see
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Speaker 3: him go. And you sent me that, yes, shir, I
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Speaker 3: was like no, like so, uh yeah, a huge loss,
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Speaker 3: and I know he'll be missed.
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Speaker 2: Uh And I'm I'm just gonna go ahead and and
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Speaker 2: speak what you would put in the chat, because you
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Speaker 2: did remember what your thought was. Usually. I believe that
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Speaker 2: the Marvel Alliance guys and the DC guys still do
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Speaker 2: this on some capacity. Rating the movie. I don't think
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Speaker 2: we're going to give it a like traditional score. I
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Speaker 2: think we you guys, will know the way we think
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Speaker 2: about the film, the way we're going to talk about it. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I think putting a score on it is either going
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Speaker 2: to be beating a dead horse or just like putting
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Speaker 2: it into high praises that we're already putting into our
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Speaker 2: review you know.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's that's what we've stuck with with our
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Speaker 3: book reviews. Guys. Is like, hey, we don't need to
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Speaker 3: rate this on a letter grade or a numerical like
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Speaker 3: because you should know how we feel about it. And
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Speaker 3: but also like I tend to think about, oh, well,
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Speaker 3: like this was okay, Like I'm gonna give it a three, like,
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Speaker 3: but like if it's okay to somebody else, that's going
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Speaker 3: to be like a one or two. Like, So numerical
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Speaker 3: scores are all up to interpretation for what your point
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Speaker 3: of view is. Our goal as reviewers and podcasters is
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Speaker 3: to give you, guys, our thoughts, and if you value
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Speaker 3: our thoughts, great, But otherwise, like you don't need to
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Speaker 3: know what our score is because you get a throw
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Speaker 3: at interpretation.
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Speaker 2: I feel like, so, yeah, one one hundred percent trying
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Speaker 2: to think of what else is on the table for news.
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Speaker 2: Oh yes, well, speaking of Mandalorian Grogu, the tomato meter
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Speaker 2: has come out, as well as some quotes, some pool
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Speaker 2: quotes for thoughts of the movie. I already sent these
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Speaker 2: two screens shots. We are not going to let these
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Speaker 2: sway our opinions, because of course we haven't even seen
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Speaker 2: the movie yet. We're gonna watch the movie. We're gonna
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Speaker 2: gather own thoughts and everything else. But as of not
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Speaker 2: as of right now, but as of yesterday, it was
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Speaker 2: at nine forty five AM at a fifty eight percent.
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Speaker 3: That's at sixty one percent.
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Speaker 2: Right now it's at sixty one percent. So it's the
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Speaker 2: needle has moved a little bit, but not by much.
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Speaker 2: I had told I think, uh the keekers uh discord
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Speaker 2: that I believe there is a possibility that it goes
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Speaker 2: up to like the sixty nine, sixty eight, uh what
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Speaker 2: you mnna call it level on the tomay. Now that
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Speaker 2: you tell me that it's sixty one, I don't know
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Speaker 2: if I don't know if it does. I don't know
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Speaker 2: if it does, but I do believe that the popcorn meter,
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Speaker 2: of course, which is the general audience I believe that
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Speaker 2: will not break ninety, but it will not fall below seventy.
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Speaker 3: I would agree with that. I think we're gonna be
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Speaker 3: like like a B range, yeah, because I do think
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Speaker 3: this is more accessible movie for people to jump into.
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Speaker 3: And like, I've read a lot where people have been like, oh, well,
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Speaker 3: we're like trying to start fresh basically so you don't
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Speaker 3: have to go watch the show. So do you think
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Speaker 3: that's gonna be the capable And it looks like, based
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Speaker 3: on some of these quotes, like I could potentially even
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Speaker 3: show this tomorrow and like it might be like the
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Speaker 3: best at watching grow.
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Speaker 2: Gu Right now, I was gonna say, I that's what
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Speaker 2: these first two viewings for me are going to be.
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Speaker 2: It's of course, one is for just the hell of
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Speaker 2: it and just having fun with it. Two is going
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Speaker 2: to be more critical, more of the super observations and
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Speaker 2: also looking out for is this something that I could
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Speaker 2: put on for the entire family once this does hit
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Speaker 2: Disney Plus? You know ye So one of the other
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Speaker 2: quotes that had us a little like yeh, and I
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Speaker 2: kind of thought about it. I don't know if it's
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Speaker 2: necessarily a bad thing because of today, And this is
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Speaker 2: gonna sound crazy, but because of today's demographic, and I
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Speaker 2: feel like, uh, what's what's It's gen Z and then
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Speaker 2: what's below gen Z? It's Gin Alpha, So I believe
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Speaker 2: Gen Alpha is from and and again technically Amberln is
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Speaker 2: uh Gin right after Alpha, I think.
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Speaker 3: Uh oh, I don't even know what that one would be.
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Speaker 2: I can't remember what it is. But again, I'm only
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Speaker 2: taking care of her, so I don't really spend a
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Speaker 2: whole lot of time with Gen Alpha. But from what
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Speaker 2: I am seeing online, they're not as like hardcore like
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Speaker 2: it needs to be kind and blah blah blah. Like yeah,
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Speaker 2: but again I'm not surrounding myself around that demographic. But
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Speaker 2: the quote is the man Ilarian Grogu an efficient adventure
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Speaker 2: that only pretends to be a real Star Wars movie,
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Speaker 2: And I was like pretends e Yeah, somebody else worded
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Speaker 2: it in a way that was like, oh, it's a
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Speaker 2: it's it's Star Wars Light. It's more action adventure Star
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Speaker 2: Wars Light. So technically I think the closest thing to
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Speaker 2: this would be Skeleton Crew. Yeah, Skeleton Crew Forward and
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Speaker 2: Backwards was a space adventure. The lore is what made
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Speaker 2: it Star Wars related. And then of course, at the
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Speaker 2: very end of the show spoilers for anybody who hasn't
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Speaker 2: watched it yet, the appearance of a lightsaber, right, yeah,
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Speaker 2: like that was really it And people enjoyed Skeleton Crew
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Speaker 2: for Yeah, we're a majority of people, So I think
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Speaker 2: that this will be okay.
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Speaker 3: And I definitely think, like reading these rotten Tomato pull quotes, like,
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Speaker 3: I feel like that's like the main vibe is like
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Speaker 3: it all depends on if people are like, it's okay
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Speaker 3: for it to be an okay movie, or it's not
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Speaker 3: okay for Star Wars to have an okay movie. Like
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Speaker 3: rachel Leischman from The Mary Sue who I Trust is
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Speaker 3: a reviewer, said this isn't going to reinvent Star Wars
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Speaker 3: as a whole, and it isn't changing movie history. But
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Speaker 3: I do think that the Mandalori Grugu is the kind
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Speaker 3: of fun family adventure that fans of the show will enjoy. Now,
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Speaker 3: another reviewer that I enjoy GERMANE. Lucier. I think is
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Speaker 3: how you print it's his name from ion nine dot com.
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Speaker 3: It can be more than a movie. It can be
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Speaker 3: a life changing experience. Not every Star Wars movie is,
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Speaker 3: and the Mendalorian and Grogoon never had to be. But
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Speaker 3: in the words of Yoda, it chooses do not instead
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Speaker 3: of do it doesn't even try.
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Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, So like that's like a backhanded comment,
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Speaker 2: like it's it's like like it it like a backhanded compliment,
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Speaker 2: like what what do they call it? The compliment sandwich
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Speaker 2: where it's like, oh, we'll give you something nice and
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Speaker 2: then we'll like just throw something in your face and
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Speaker 2: then we'll say something nice to you again. I the
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Speaker 2: way that I feel going into this, I think that
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Speaker 2: there is a lot of fun characters that we are
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Speaker 2: going to see. The way that we reviewed season three, yeah,
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Speaker 2: just this past week when doing our retro, we had
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Speaker 2: opposite opinions about the kind of the exactly the comedic
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Speaker 2: direction that season three took, and so I think we
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Speaker 2: could see a little bit more of that, which I
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Speaker 2: am not hugely looking forward to. But again I am
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Speaker 2: looking for how are you moving the story forward? That's
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Speaker 2: mainly what I'm looking at. And so when it comes
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Speaker 2: to the characters of Mandalorian Grogu, I need to see
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Speaker 2: Grogu develop more. And again that doesn't mean he needs
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Speaker 2: to talk. It literally just means develop character wise, whether
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Speaker 2: that mean he be a little bit more independent, whether
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Speaker 2: that be uh, they become an a legitimate a legitimate
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Speaker 2: team where you see them do a lot more together
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Speaker 2: and things like that. So that's where I kind of
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Speaker 2: sit with, like where my expectations are for how this
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Speaker 2: moves the story of Star Wars towards where we will
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Speaker 2: eventually be in the Force Awakens, right.
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Speaker 3: And I think that makes sense, Like we do want
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Speaker 3: to see crow Goo grow as a character in this
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Speaker 3: and progress in a way that makes him feel a
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Speaker 3: little bit more independent because you and that was like
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Speaker 3: the whole goal right at the end of season three,
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Speaker 3: it was like Dinn was like, Okay, we have to
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Speaker 3: proceed forward, Like we can't just keep going on the run.
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Speaker 3: We can't run away. We have to face our problems.
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Speaker 3: And is that a cheesy like trope, like, oh, we
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Speaker 3: we have to face the problem. Yes, But in this case,
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Speaker 3: if it's the story vibe, so I am perfectly fine.
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Speaker 3: If this is a family fun adventure that's supposed to
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Speaker 3: be reminiscent of a Saturday morning cartoon or something, and
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Speaker 3: that's fully what I'm going into this expecting it to be.
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Speaker 3: I'm not expecting super deep plot, but like fun family
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Speaker 3: adventure is the vibe I'm looking for. We gotta meet that.
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Speaker 2: You need to remember, I was first in line for
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Speaker 2: Dave Filoni's Clone Wars movie back in freaking what twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty twelve and eight? Was it two thousand and eight?
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Speaker 2: Holy cow? Okay, yeah, two thousand and eight, Like I
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Speaker 2: was first one in line, so like, I'm going to
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Speaker 2: be here for this. And also I said the Force Awakens,
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Speaker 2: I probably should back to just a little bit because
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Speaker 2: we know that the Mando verse in the way this
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Speaker 2: was kind of set up was to possibly set us
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Speaker 2: up for Ahsoka season two. So those are some of
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Speaker 2: the key things that I will be looking for as well,
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Speaker 2: like if there's anything there to set that up.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm not even necessarily looking for like that,
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Speaker 3: Like I'm thinking I'm going into this like this the
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Speaker 3: one off. Like I know people are like, oh, is
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Speaker 3: this gonna span like a new trilogy. I'm not going
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Speaker 3: into that with that expectation. I am like fully in
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Speaker 3: the zone of the Mandalorian crew. Gu a Star Wars
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Speaker 3: story like comes to the big screen. Sure, Yeah, Like
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Speaker 3: that's the vibe I'm looking for, is.
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Speaker 2: Well, let's go ahead in and jump into because we
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Speaker 2: are going, of course, to try to make this a
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Speaker 2: short episodes already at twenty minutes. Let's go ahead and
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Speaker 2: jump into that topic. Of course.
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Speaker 3: Well, can we hit box office first? Box Office?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we we haven't really talked about that, and on
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Speaker 2: we did tell a lot of people that we would
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Speaker 2: talk about this on this episode. So box office, let's
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Speaker 2: go ahead and talk about it. What do you want
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Speaker 2: to talk about?
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Speaker 3: Okay, So I've got I've got it's the Hollywood Reporters
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Speaker 3: article on the box office predictions. Because I don't know
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Speaker 3: where to look these numbers up now that I'm not
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Speaker 3: on Twitter, so I needed an article to kind of
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Speaker 3: tell me. So they've got the tracking services say Mandoin
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Speaker 3: Grogu should open directly eighty two million at the domestic
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Speaker 3: box office for the four days, which I believe our Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday,
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Speaker 3: with some exhibitors see it coming in as high as
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Speaker 3: ninety five to one hundred million dollars.
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Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I have as well.
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Speaker 3: Okay, they're predicting. Disney insiders expect that Mandoin Groogo will
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Speaker 3: earn at least one hundred and sixty million globally.
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Speaker 2: For the weekend.
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Speaker 3: It just says it's just as globally, So.
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Speaker 2: I would assume so because one hundred and sixties So
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Speaker 2: they're they're expecting that everywhere else be basically on par
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Speaker 2: with just America.
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Speaker 3: See, I I don't think that's accurate because, like I
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Speaker 3: think that means like at least one hundred and sixty million,
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Speaker 3: like during the box office run. Because this next quote says,
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Speaker 3: word of mouth across social media is the key critics
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Speaker 3: have become large irrelevant to performance. So a top Hollywood
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Speaker 3: financier who still believes Mando has a shot at scoring
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Speaker 3: as much as one hundred and five million for the
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Speaker 3: four day weekend in North America and another eighty five
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Speaker 3: million overseas, that sounds bock number. I would say one
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Speaker 3: hundred and sixty million in its box office run.
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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, oh hold on, hold see but you say
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Speaker 2: in his box office run, I feel like that's theatrical run.
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Speaker 2: I guess that's the difference box office run and theatrical run.
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Speaker 2: Because if you're saying one hundred and eighty five for
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Speaker 2: its box office run, that makes me think like it's
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Speaker 2: only making one hundred and eighty five dollars one hundred
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Speaker 2: and eighty five million dollars. But you're talking about opening
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Speaker 2: weekend box office.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred five million in North America and eighty
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Speaker 3: five million overseas for a four day weekend.
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Speaker 2: Yeah okay, okay, that makes me make.
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Speaker 3: One hundred and sixty million globally means box office run.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I I can agree with that. We have like honestly,
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Speaker 2: and again this may be just my disassociation with like
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Speaker 2: social media as a whole lately, but like I feel
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Speaker 2: like people do not talk about pop culture movies as
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Speaker 2: much anymore. Yeah, it's it's not like a big bombastic
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Speaker 2: thing anymore. Now, again, that may be my corner of
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Speaker 2: the internet because of course, algorithms and everything else is
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Speaker 2: just the way it works. I like when it comes
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Speaker 2: to things like Venom, Like I remember hearing all about
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Speaker 2: how other countries just love the crap out of Venom, right,
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Speaker 2: and the same thing went for oh what was it
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Speaker 2: back a couple of years ago, like, uh, the Incredibles too,
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Speaker 2: and like all of these things, Like I remember like
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Speaker 2: hearing about the hype in other countries for these types
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Speaker 2: of movies. I don't hear that much about bigger pop
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Speaker 2: culture movies anymore. Yeah, I did see a really cool
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Speaker 2: poster I think for either Japan or China. I can't
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Speaker 2: remember which one it was of the huts, and it
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Speaker 2: looked really dope, And I hope we get that poster
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Speaker 2: here or even so I might just like scan it
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Speaker 2: and see if I can't printed out. But still, like
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Speaker 2: I I do think that it has if if it's
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Speaker 2: already saying like, hey, we could see one hundred and
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Speaker 2: eighty million globally, I'm gonna go ahead and say we
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Speaker 2: could probably see two hundred. Probably it's it's not in
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Speaker 2: the realm of impossible, But I do believe that the
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Speaker 2: eighty five to one hundred in the US, I think
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Speaker 2: that is probably on par see.
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Speaker 3: I'm thinking probably like eighty to ninety is what I'm thinking.
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Speaker 3: I know with like and I haven't looked at box
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Speaker 3: office predictions recently, but I feel like from what I remember,
26:58
Speaker 3: box office predictions would always come in a little bit
27:02
Speaker 3: higher than they actually were. Something in eighty two, Like,
27:05
Speaker 3: I feel like eighty to ninety, maybe seventy five to ninety.
27:09
Speaker 3: I still feel like seventy five is a great number
27:12
Speaker 3: for right now. I think people don't get that because.
27:16
Speaker 2: I actually thereators seventy five feels a little small.
27:21
Speaker 3: You think seventy five is a little small.
27:22
Speaker 2: Feels a little small, but silly because if you said
27:27
Speaker 2: seventy eight, I feel like, hey, that would be okay,
27:30
Speaker 2: you know, just three million more.
27:33
Speaker 3: See I'm a five, five and zero number person. I
27:38
Speaker 3: always like that makes sun of me because I will
27:41
Speaker 3: turn the temperature dial to seventy or seventy five. There
27:45
Speaker 3: is no in between.
27:53
Speaker 2: I genuinely think that either way, whether it does make
28:00
Speaker 2: seventy five, if it does make one hundred, I think
28:04
Speaker 2: overall this movie will be a technical success, whether that
28:12
Speaker 2: be from the money that it makes or the word
28:20
Speaker 2: amount that it gets. Like regardless now, whether the suits
28:27
Speaker 2: find that to be a success or not, that'll be
28:32
Speaker 2: up in the air. We'll really see how it goes
28:35
Speaker 2: after that Monday, I think. More so we will probably
28:40
Speaker 2: see either on Thursday of or I would say either
28:46
Speaker 2: Wednesday of next week or Friday of next week, we
28:51
Speaker 2: will start to hear the like, oh, this movie is
28:56
Speaker 2: definitely in trouble type of reports, which I mean those
29:02
Speaker 2: can be a little eye rolling, but that's when we
29:05
Speaker 2: will probably start to hear the rumblings of like, hey,
29:08
Speaker 2: this is probably what the suits think, you know, type
29:11
Speaker 2: of thing. So we'll see, we're gonna we're gonna go
29:23
Speaker 2: over thirty. I know we are.
29:25
Speaker 3: It's gonna be It's gonna be fine. It's gonna be fine.
29:27
Speaker 2: Okay, So theories and predictions, Katie, do you have, like
29:34
Speaker 2: I'll leave I'll leave it open ended. So, even if
29:37
Speaker 2: this doesn't need to be a huge conversation, do you
29:42
Speaker 2: have any big theories or any big predictions for the
29:48
Speaker 2: Mandalorian grogu.
29:51
Speaker 3: I think we talked about this last week, but I
29:53
Speaker 3: feel like, and I agree with you on this. I
29:56
Speaker 3: think we're definitely gonna get a post credit. I feel
30:02
Speaker 3: like we need to be family friendly, action adventure one shot.
30:09
Speaker 3: I need Star Wars story vibes. We don't care about
30:14
Speaker 3: a sequel in this case. We just want to have fun.
30:17
Speaker 3: We want to bring Star Wars back to movie theaters
30:20
Speaker 3: just for the fudzies of it. Like, that's all I
30:22
Speaker 3: need is the end of the day. Obviously, we've already
30:28
Speaker 3: seen Patro Pascal without his helmet. I have question for you,
30:33
Speaker 3: do you think we get another Order sixty six flashback?
30:38
Speaker 2: So it was kind of gonna be my question more
30:41
Speaker 2: so because well, because the thing is, and we talked
30:44
Speaker 2: about this in our Mandalorian season one review that like, oh,
30:49
Speaker 2: everybody calls this the show with no like this was
30:54
Speaker 2: one of the like, oh, you can do Star Wars
30:57
Speaker 2: without lightsabers, but of course there was the dark Saber.
31:00
Speaker 2: Dark Stabor is technically a lightsaber, and I was gonna ask,
31:04
Speaker 2: do you think we have any lightsabers in this? And
31:09
Speaker 2: I didn't really think about Order sixty six. I think, well, again,
31:17
Speaker 2: just like how we talked in our retro for season three,
31:22
Speaker 2: I think we need to see more about what happens
31:27
Speaker 2: after Beck helps Rogu, whether that be in what we
31:32
Speaker 2: talked about, maybe a comic book series, or you know,
31:35
Speaker 2: maybe they throw it in as like some sort of
31:38
Speaker 2: small cut scene in a video game or like something.
31:41
Speaker 2: We need something to cut that that little tiny you know,
31:47
Speaker 2: I say tiny, but you know those years of time
31:52
Speaker 2: between Order sixty six and that very first episode of
31:56
Speaker 2: Mandalorian see.
31:58
Speaker 3: Because I think that's like one of the big things
32:00
Speaker 3: that Grogu needs to explore, is like how he got
32:03
Speaker 3: caught by the Empire, Like I don't necessarily need to
32:07
Speaker 3: see like, oh, that got Grogu to Naboo kind of thing,
32:11
Speaker 3: Like I want to see how he comes to term.
32:17
Speaker 3: I need him to come to terms with Hey, I
32:19
Speaker 3: got got but it wasn't the end of the world.
32:22
Speaker 2: Basically, yes, I do think that, like, in order to
32:27
Speaker 2: get past this trauma. And I'm not saying every Jedi
32:33
Speaker 2: does get past the trauma, but they learned how to
32:37
Speaker 2: cope with it in a different way. And we've seen
32:41
Speaker 2: plenty of Jedi survivors do this in real time sometimes,
32:46
Speaker 2: whether it be in a comic, whether it be of
32:47
Speaker 2: course uh with cal Cassis in a video game, and
32:50
Speaker 2: all these other things. We need that for Grogu, And
32:55
Speaker 2: a lot of people are like, why would you need
32:57
Speaker 2: that for Grogu. He's a childhood He's fifty years old, Okay,
33:03
Speaker 2: he's not a child. I do think that if we
33:11
Speaker 2: are ever going to separate Grogu, and I don't even
33:18
Speaker 2: know if people want to separate Grogu, but if people
33:21
Speaker 2: if because this is the way that I see Grogu.
33:25
Speaker 2: I don't see Grogu as crazy as it sounds, as
33:29
Speaker 2: a Jedi. I don't see Grogu as this like identity
33:36
Speaker 2: with the Jedi Order and Order sixty six and everything else.
33:39
Speaker 2: I see him as a partner of the Mandalorian Yeah,
33:44
Speaker 2: and if he himself, if Filoni and lucasfilm wants to
33:49
Speaker 2: show us how he gets away from what he had
33:52
Speaker 2: in the past to just being with Mando, he needs
33:56
Speaker 2: to jump over this hoop of that trauma. And I
34:00
Speaker 2: do think we do need to see some sort of
34:03
Speaker 2: either flashback or if we don't get a flashback, maybe
34:07
Speaker 2: we have somebody talk about it.
34:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I know, like we already said guys like, oh,
34:14
Speaker 3: family friendly doesn't have to be deep lat but I
34:17
Speaker 3: also do think it for grog Whu's growth. I think
34:21
Speaker 3: that's like the final step for him to move forward,
34:25
Speaker 3: and his story is dealing with that aspect of hey,
34:32
Speaker 3: I got got yep. So that's my thought there. I
34:38
Speaker 3: don't know if we'll see lightsabers. My thought would have
34:42
Speaker 3: been dark saber like maybe like both talks about, oh,
34:45
Speaker 3: I'm trying to repair it or something, because like we
34:49
Speaker 3: all know how Mandalorians can't let go of anything like yeah,
34:53
Speaker 3: so I feel like they're going to try to get
34:57
Speaker 3: it repaired.
34:59
Speaker 2: So so I think there is a possibility. So here's
35:08
Speaker 2: here's the other question, because here's would you count the
35:12
Speaker 2: post credit as part of part of the movie always okay?
35:18
Speaker 2: If that case, I do think we're going to see lightsabers.
35:21
Speaker 3: So you think we might see like Ahsoka.
35:24
Speaker 2: I think there's a I think there's a possibility to
35:29
Speaker 2: see Ahsoka. Now again, they're stuck in another universe.
35:34
Speaker 3: Would you say Ahsoka or would you say Ezra and Haarrah?
35:39
Speaker 3: And the whole tie in is going to.
35:41
Speaker 2: Be Yes, I think that there is a better possibility
35:48
Speaker 2: now that you've said it, Yes, I do think there
35:50
Speaker 2: is a better possibility of seeing Ezra. And if we
35:53
Speaker 2: see Ezra, there's most likely we're going to see his lightsaber.
35:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say it we see Harrah. If that
36:02
Speaker 3: is the case with the post credit, you have to
36:04
Speaker 3: see Harah because you need the New Republic pie in. Yeah,
36:08
Speaker 3: because his whole point right now with the missions is
36:11
Speaker 3: that he's doing missions for the New Republic on the side.
36:15
Speaker 3: Here is the person to know he's doing this on
36:17
Speaker 3: the side. What's he doing?
36:20
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I agree, I think that I think that
36:24
Speaker 2: is the only way we see a lightsaber, now that
36:28
Speaker 2: you've said that, because I was like, oh, well, do
36:30
Speaker 2: you think that they would actually like be like post
36:33
Speaker 2: credit scene and then like ah, Soka feel you know,
36:38
Speaker 2: force wise outside of the universe. I don't think or
36:42
Speaker 2: another galaxy, not universe. Sorry, I don't think they would
36:47
Speaker 2: go that far. But Ezra for sure. Lucasfilm, Lucasfilm. I
36:56
Speaker 2: was gonna look at this looking at you, Lucasfilm. To God,
37:00
Speaker 2: this movie doesn't need Luke Skywalker. You got it.
37:04
Speaker 3: No, it doesn't.
37:05
Speaker 2: It does not leak. I don't need to see Luke Skywalker.
37:08
Speaker 2: I don't need to see Han Solo. I don't need
37:10
Speaker 2: to see Princess Leah. I don't need to see Chewbacca.
37:14
Speaker 2: I don't need to see any of them.
37:17
Speaker 3: I had the most hysterical thought. Thank you us. This
37:23
Speaker 3: is totally unrelated to the original trilogy people, by the way,
37:26
Speaker 3: I do apologize, but I just this is so funny.
37:32
Speaker 3: Roda is job of the huts.
37:33
Speaker 2: Baby, Okay, you.
37:37
Speaker 3: See Ezra come down the arena steps and go down again.
37:46
Speaker 3: It's not gonna happen.
37:48
Speaker 2: But I actually, actually I would love a callback if
37:54
Speaker 2: in this conversation of the Huts and they're like and
37:58
Speaker 2: somebody is looking up Java and a picture of Ezra
38:02
Speaker 2: Ezra's face comes up. I think that that would be hilarious.
38:08
Speaker 2: That would be an amazing callback.
38:10
Speaker 3: Actually, I think that would sneaky Easter egg Like.
38:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that would be what. It would be hilarious,
38:17
Speaker 2: more so because there's gonna be people who have never
38:20
Speaker 2: seen Rebels before watching this movie that have watched the
38:24
Speaker 2: original trilogy and they're like, who.
38:27
Speaker 3: The hell is that?
38:29
Speaker 2: That would be hilarious? Actually, that would actually be hilarious. Well, yeah,
38:35
Speaker 2: well you just brought up Easter eggs. Do you think
38:39
Speaker 2: we're gonna see a lot of them? Do you think
38:40
Speaker 2: that we will see? I would say like even in
38:52
Speaker 2: recent movies, as of course the sequel trilogy, there wasn't
38:58
Speaker 2: a whole lot of Easter eggs.
39:00
Speaker 3: But I feel like more of the Easter eggs with
39:03
Speaker 3: Star Wars have been offshoot stories. Yeah, like they're not
39:08
Speaker 3: necessarily like and Or had a lot of Easter eggs.
39:12
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that's true.
39:14
Speaker 3: I like that. Yeah, So I feel like there's more
39:18
Speaker 3: potential for that here versus the sequel trilogy.
39:23
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, are we gonna see and doors Child in
39:29
Speaker 2: this movie?
39:30
Speaker 3: I hope not.
39:33
Speaker 2: I opened that can of worms. Please Lucas soon, don't
39:36
Speaker 2: do this to me. But yeah, that's that's really all
39:42
Speaker 2: I have.
39:44
Speaker 3: I think that's about all I had too, And I
39:46
Speaker 3: could feel my voice slipping more and more, so.
39:50
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that's totally fine. We we talked about box office,
39:55
Speaker 2: talked about theories, we talked about tomato meters and all
39:58
Speaker 2: of that jazz. Of course, guys, we will be back
40:01
Speaker 2: Friday night at eight pm Eastern Standard Time right here
40:07
Speaker 2: on the geek First YouTube channel, where we will be
40:11
Speaker 2: reviewing the Mandalorian Grogu. If you cannot make it here
40:17
Speaker 2: on YouTube, do not fret. You will be able to
40:20
Speaker 2: hear us on any podcast of choice on Saturday. We
40:26
Speaker 2: will have that release on Saturday on both the Star
40:29
Speaker 2: Wars Alliance feed and the Geeks on an Alliance feed. All right, yeah,
40:35
Speaker 2: but with that, I want to thank you guys so
40:37
Speaker 2: much for being here. Of course, you can find me
40:40
Speaker 2: at fanboy Clay on any and all social media, more
40:45
Speaker 2: so on Instagram and threads these days. There is a
40:51
Speaker 2: small delay in Ranger Alliance again, schedules got conflicted, but
40:57
Speaker 2: you guys should be seeing that pretty soon. We are
41:01
Speaker 2: reviewing three episodes of of of of Oh my gosh,
41:08
Speaker 2: I almost forgot the entire show that we were reviewing
41:10
Speaker 2: over there, but we will be reviewing three episodes because
41:13
Speaker 2: we've missed three weeks. So go check that out when
41:17
Speaker 2: it is available, Katie, what about yourself?
41:21
Speaker 3: Before I share that, Kevin popped into the chat, he said,
41:24
Speaker 3: Star Wars is for kids. Everything doesn't need to be
41:27
Speaker 3: serious to make a profit at the box office.
41:29
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, always remember, yes, always remember Freddy Prince Junior
41:37
Speaker 2: in his giant Star Wars rants, Star Wars is for
41:42
Speaker 2: kids and I to stay family friendly. I can't say
41:46
Speaker 2: the rest of that quote, but it's it's an amazing quote.
41:50
Speaker 2: If you haven't heard it, just look up Fredy Prince
41:54
Speaker 2: Junior Star Wars rant. It's beautiful.
41:58
Speaker 3: Yes, but y'all, you can find me on most sotion
42:02
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42:17
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42:21
Speaker 3: So we're still here Friday, but we're taking next Wednesday off.
42:24
Speaker 3: The following week, we would love to hear your guys,
42:26
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42:30
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42:36
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42:39
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42:42
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42:45
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42:47
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