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What We Learned in Year One | Lyndsey Fry on Growing the Game & Building Better Hockey Families · 2 Many Men On The Mic

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  SPEAKER_03: Coming to you from St.
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  SPEAKER_03: Louis, Missouri, it is July, and that means steamy.
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  SPEAKER_03: It is steamy outside.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's been just I mean, my poor dog, he can't go outside.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm not waking up at three in the morning to take him for a walk.
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  SPEAKER_01: So he's about to go to No Leash Needed tomorrow.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, because that dog is driving me nuts.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I don't blame him, but yeah, it's steamy.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, mine go out and they're out for you know 22 seconds and then they want to come right back in.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, so you said mine as in plural, and you know, I I have been arguing with Kelly about this for years that we need to have two dogs.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they your your dog needs a friend.
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  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: Partner in crime, exactly.
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  SPEAKER_03: And it wasn't me, who threw her up on the carpet.
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  SPEAKER_01: She is she is uh dead set against it, will not allow it.
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  SPEAKER_01: But I'm like, if we got an extra one, the dog would be so much easier to handle.
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  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_03: Facts, those are facts right there.
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  SPEAKER_01: So as the kids say, facts, yeah, she's gonna have to.
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  SPEAKER_01: You may have to you may have to talk her into that.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm not stepping into that.
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  SPEAKER_03: I uh I I just want you to know that I'm here for the support every time you come on the show and and uh I'll support you, but I'm I'm not getting involved in that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, the thing is, is she wants a little dog.
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  SPEAKER_01: So maybe if we got her the little dog, we could have a big dog and a little dog.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm not big on little dog.
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  SPEAKER_03: I've heard that story before.
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  SPEAKER_01: I've heard that story before.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, uh outside of it being steamy and July, which I feel like is when people go on vacation.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's like the one month of summer when everybody can kind of take a deep breath.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_03: I think you've been on a little R.
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  SPEAKER_03: I was just on some R uh uh or on assignment, as Grant likes to call it.
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  SPEAKER_03: And it's a great time to pause and reflect.
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  SPEAKER_03: But during this time, we always are looking for fun interviews, fun people to talk to.
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  SPEAKER_03: This week is no different.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh, we're gonna be uh playing an interview clip with Lindsay Fry.
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  SPEAKER_03: I love this story.
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  SPEAKER_03: Lindsay grew up in Chandler, Arizona, so Arizona, not known as a hockey hotbed historically.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh, but uh I remember Keith Kachuk days before the blues got him, and uh it's kind of the the extension of the Gretzky factor.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, he came to California after that trade, and then it just kind of spread, and now we have teams that are in Vegas, and so the Southwest has uh suddenly become uh uh an ice hockey uh mecca out in that area.
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  SPEAKER_03: But cool story, I just want to put some fun facts out there for you to chew on and our listeners.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh, at the time she was growing up, there was like 20 girls in the entire state that played hockey.
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  SPEAKER_03: She was inspired by Mighty Ducks movies, as I imagine many of our listeners are, certainly some of the players.
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  SPEAKER_03: So much so much so that she taught herself how to play hockey uh after watching these movies.
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  SPEAKER_03: And they were Disney family, so they went to Disneyland and uh those kinds of stuff, uh uh, too.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh, she stuck with it, and then ultimately that led her and her family to decide to play hockey in Colorado for the Colorado Select.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm not gonna give away the rest of it, but I'm just gonna put that out there as kind of a ramp for the beginning of this story.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, you did yeoman's work.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I was not on the interview, which is probably better for the interview because there's less me and more of uh more of the interviewee.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, but just a great story, like you said.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, excited for our listeners.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, whether you're a boy or a girl, just the the commitment to learning, teaching yourself how to play hockey, and then you know, not wanting to bury the lead, her story after and and the things that she's doing now, I think are just great uh great things for kids and parents and coaches and everybody involved with youth hockey on up to to take as inspiration.
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  SPEAKER_01: And oh, by the way, she's she's an Olympian.
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  SPEAKER_03: She's a silver medal Olympian, and uh also has developed a program for girls' hockey that has really become a poster child, a poster model, I should say, for NHL and NHL uh PA women's hockey advancement throughout the country.
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  SPEAKER_03: So take a listen, Lindsay Fry from the Arizona Cochinas layer.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh it is an honor to have Lindsay Fry, the president and co-founder of the Arizona Cochinas Female Hockey Association on the Too Many Men on the Mic show.
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  SPEAKER_03: Lindsay, thanks so much for joining us today.
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  SPEAKER_03: How's your day going?
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  SPEAKER_05: Day's going great.
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  SPEAKER_05: Thanks for having me.
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  SPEAKER_05: Excited to be here.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, thanks.
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  SPEAKER_03: I uh we're excited to have you.
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  SPEAKER_03: So you've got a fascinating story, and uh, I won't give it away to the audience.
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  SPEAKER_03: We can get into it through some questions, but you grew up in Arizona when there were fewer than probably 20 girls in the entire state playing hockey.
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  SPEAKER_03: What made you stick with it?
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  SPEAKER_03: And what did your parents do that made the biggest difference in those early years for you?
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um, well, I think there's two things, right?
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  SPEAKER_05: There's like, how did I get into it, and then how did I stay in it, or why did I stay in it?
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  SPEAKER_05: And um, the how I got into it, uh I think despite my parents never playing hockey, um, or anybody in my family ever playing hockey, uh, we're a big Disney family to this day.
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  SPEAKER_05: We just went on a Disney cruise for my mom's 60th birthday.
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  SPEAKER_05: But because we were a Disney family, I grew up watching the Mighty Ducks movies.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um, and kind of concurrently, like right as I was being introduced to those, my dad was actually working um in Southern California.
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  SPEAKER_05: He was he was traveling back and forth, and so I actually got to go see some real Mighty Ducks games.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um, and that's that's really what sparked it.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um, I just thought the sport was so cool.
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  SPEAKER_05: And eventually my parents got a uh a stick in my hands, got me on those little like Fisher Price prep plastic skates that would strap over your shoes.
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  SPEAKER_05: And I was just I was hooked.
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  SPEAKER_05: So I actually started um as a roller hockey player.
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  SPEAKER_05: We had you know organized roller hockey in Arizona at the time, and then was a direct beneficiary of the uh Arizona Coyotes coming down from Winnipeg um because that just sparked more rinks getting built, one of which was near my house, and uh switched over to ice hockey and never really looked back um throughout my my youth career.
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  SPEAKER_05: Uh, I I say that because I did find my way back to roller for a few years after college, but uh which I love.
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  SPEAKER_05: I love roller hockey.
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  SPEAKER_05: I wish it was bigger.
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  SPEAKER_05: But um, I think what kept me in it, I mean, it's it's it really calms down, I think, in a lot of ways to my parents.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um, not every parent is willing to take on something that is incredibly foreign to them or that they know nothing about and just dive headfirst because their five-year-old is passionate about it.
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  SPEAKER_05: I think we all, as a parent now, right, like we all like to say or think that we're gonna do that.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um, but I don't think it's as easy as that.
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  SPEAKER_05: And I think uh my parents are special in that way.
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  SPEAKER_05: They just decided when we were born that whatever my brother and I were into, um, they were gonna they were gonna go in full, you know, they were jumping right into the water and they did exactly that.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_05: Um, I think, you know, what kept me in it beyond just having a support system that even paid the bills for me to be able to play um and and drove me to the rink and all the things.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_05: Um I was really fortunate in that, you know, we didn't have a lot of girls playing hockey, but I definitely found my talent for the sport pretty early.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_05: So I could hang with the boys no problem.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_05: I played with the boys until I was um a second year 14U, which, you know, when I was growing up, we could hit it 12U.
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  SPEAKER_05: So I played four years of full check hockey.
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  SPEAKER_05: And um, and I loved it.
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  SPEAKER_05: And I think just because I got in with that group of kids so young and was never like, you know, behind the curve talent-wise, um, I just always had that respect from them.
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  SPEAKER_05: And I think a lot of girls, that's not what they experienced when they played with boys growing up.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_05: I was very fortunate in that regard, um, that I had a great relationship and and anybody new that came onto the team, you know, if they had a problem with me being a girl, the uh the other kids on the team would would straighten that out pretty quickly on my behalf.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um so yeah, I mean, I think just having like a really supportive culture around me was a big piece of it.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um and you know, that paired with the fact that I just loved it.
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  SPEAKER_05: I loved, I loved playing, I loved being good at it, I loved competing, I loved the physicality.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_05: Um, yeah, just there were so many, so many things about it that I loved.
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  SPEAKER_05: But without that support system, um, both for my parents and you know, my teammates, like it could have been very different.
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  SPEAKER_05: There are plenty of people that love the game and have a bad cultural experience and decide to quit.
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  SPEAKER_05: And I'm just thankful I wasn't one of those.
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  SPEAKER_03: Now, did your brother get into hockey after watching you uh he did.
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  SPEAKER_05: He's two and a half years younger than me.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um it's we joke because he got into it when he was like a mini mite, right?
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_05: Really, really little, and just was like not into it.
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  SPEAKER_05: Didn't do it again for like a year or so, and then came back and was just like this little stud.
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  SPEAKER_05: So he played all the way up through uh ATE AAA, and then he's actually a very, very good roller hockey player, ended up playing on the D1 uh roller hockey team for ASU for five years, and um yeah, went with that team to the national championships a number of times, and uh he's actually coaching with me now, which is pretty cool.
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  SPEAKER_05: So hockey has definitely kept cool, kept our family very, very connected, which is super fun.
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  SPEAKER_03: So, who wins in uh practice planning, you or him?
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  SPEAKER_05: Oh, practice planning, me for sure.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he's not even close to it.
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  SPEAKER_03: I love it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, you talked about your support system, and uh we we we like doing our research here, and what I heard and through or what I read through research is that uh you were going to Colorado on weekends to apply high school hockey.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh how did your mom and dad and you decide that was worth it, that sacrifice was worth it?
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  SPEAKER_03: Because I'm sure you could have been doing many other things uh than uh getting in a car or driving to Colorado or getting on a plane and going to Colorado.
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  SPEAKER_03: And how do you think about that trade-off now as somebody who runs programs uh for young players?
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, well, it's interesting, right?
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  SPEAKER_05: Because like now that I'm running a program, um people that are considering leaving and going elsewhere, one of the things they'll say to me is like, well, you left.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_05: And I'm like, Yeah, that was, you know, almost 20 years ago now.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um, and it was a very, very different time and a very, very different landscape.
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  SPEAKER_05: And by the way, I had the opportunity to go play at Shatic.
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  SPEAKER_05: I had the opportunity to go play at, you know, these these different prep schools around the country.
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  SPEAKER_05: And I think for me, like I knew by the time I was in high school, like my path and my goal was ultimately to go play college hockey.
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  SPEAKER_05: And I just wasn't going to be able to get recruited playing on a boys' team in Chandler, Arizona.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_05: Girls' hockey, unfortunately, here um was not, you know, quite at the level collected collectively that it needed to be at to be able to um, you know, get pushed and get better and all of those things.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_05: But I just, you know, I turned all those prep school opportunities in the Midwest and back east down predominantly because I just I didn't, I knew I was gonna have to leave home for college.
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  SPEAKER_05: And I didn't want to be full blown away at 13, 14 years old.
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  SPEAKER_05: So it was a really conscious decision for me to stay as close to home as I reasonably could.
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  SPEAKER_05: And that's what I always tell people now is the difference is like I was, you know, I was doing everything I could to stay close to home rather than actively looking to leave.
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  SPEAKER_05: So that's why Colorado ended up being a great option.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_05: Um at the time, it was really a powerhouse out west.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_05: We were still considered kind of an underdog around the rest of the country, but um, we were good.
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  SPEAKER_05: I think in my graduating class, we had like seven kids go D1 year before we had eight go D1, something like that, um, and a bunch went D3, which you know, back then was a those were some pretty impressive numbers for a girls program.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_05: So um yeah, it I when I think about the sacrifice, you know, for me it didn't really feel that way.
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  SPEAKER_05: Like my social life had always been my teammates, so it didn't really matter.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_05: Um I think for you know, some people, the high school experience with the dances and whatnot is pretty important to them.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_05: I couldn't care less.
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  SPEAKER_05: Like I told one of the kids I coached last year, uh 19U, that I didn't go to prom and she was like devastated for me.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm like, please don't be like I could not care less.
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  SPEAKER_05: Like that was just like not me at all.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um, and and I actually ended up having to switch to online school um halfway through high school because I was just missing too many days with all the travel and um inevitable sick days and whatnot.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_05: And so um, yeah, I mean it was a huge sacrifice though from my parents.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_05: I to this day have no idea how much they spent, but I think by then they they saw the end goal in the way that I did, um, which was you know to go and play college hockey.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_05: And I think that was the most uh I think that was the best compromise solution any of us could have come up with was you know something flexible and something that kept me relatively close to home.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_05: I could still come home during the week and travel on the weekends, and uh but but definitely a big commitment.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_05: And I think you know, we still have kids do it today.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_05: Um things happen all the time, uh, mostly on the tier one landscape now, just with how the rules are changing.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_05: But yeah, you get you get kids whose teams pulled or whatever, and they want to stay close to home and they need that flexible option.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_05: I had a couple kids like that play for me last year, and I think if you're gone for the right reasons, and I think as long as you're not just getting you're not leaving because you're getting sold on something that can't be offered in your backyard, um, that's important.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_05: But yeah, you you hear all kinds of different reasons for people leaving.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_05: I am always happy to share mine, but I think at the end of the day, like I came home to build something so that girls here wouldn't have to do what I did.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I was just gonna say that.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's fantastic.
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  SPEAKER_03: And we see that here in the Midwest where kids will leave and around the same age that you just referenced, 13, 14 years old.
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  SPEAKER_03: And uh we've looked at that on the backside.
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  SPEAKER_03: I've got one that's gone all the way through 18U now.
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  SPEAKER_03: I've got another one that's at 14U.
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  SPEAKER_03: And when you can keep these kids in their own town, in their own community, and offer uh a good product uh and a good learning experience, uh you don't have to leave.
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  SPEAKER_03: So that's fantastic that you've been able to build that out there, and I'm sure your your uh your players appreciate that.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_03: Uh one of the things I've truly appreciated as a coach, uh as I've gotten to coach older kids, uh, so both Jaron and I help out with high school kids now.
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  SPEAKER_03: Is uh this is the most experience I've had with coaching female athletes.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I have to tell you, it's an absolute joy having them.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh we've got a number of them on the team.
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  SPEAKER_03: They're excited, they compete, they want to do well, uh, they listen, they want to get better.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so uh part of my next question is really catered towards them, and uh would love to hear your perspective on what do you think mistake what would you say the biggest mistake you see in young female hockey players today?
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_03: Uh something that they could fix right now that might change their trajectory because sometimes I feel like it's well, you know, I just want to be acknowledged by the boys, accepted by the boys.
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  SPEAKER_03: But uh you've lived it and you're coaching uh female players today at a at a high level.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh any tips out there that you can share with uh some of our female hockey players listening?
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  SPEAKER_05: Um, gosh, I mean there's a lot of different directions you could go.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_05: I would say from a from a hockey specific standpoint, like one of the trends I see that I think all not all, but like we see a lot of players um struggle with as they get into that like 14U and above is just their um their shooting and their goal scoring ability.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_05: Um you know, some kids it's strength, some it's just they didn't really work on their technique when they were younger.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_05: But goal scoring, I think historically has been a challenge.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_05: Um, again, you get the one like superstar who can go score at will, but that's that's kind of hard to find.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_05: Um, I think it's you know, I think that in some ways is maybe a little bit of a gender difference.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_05: Like sometimes the boys are just like, I don't care, I'm gonna go shoot the puck, and I don't care if I have three passing options, like this is my puck.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_05: And I I think there are definitely some girls who are definitely socialized, perhaps, to be more of the puck sharer, which isn't a bad thing.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_05: Like, we need our playmakers, but not at the expense of like being willing to shoot the puck when it's time to shoot the puck.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_05: So I would say that's one hockey thing, is just like really working on your shooting and your goal scoring and just like your hunger for putting the puck in the back of the net in practice and games and everything.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_05: The second thing I think is um, you know, on ice specific is I talk a lot about like whether you're playing boys hockey or girls' hockey, doesn't really matter.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_05: Like, I think sometimes girls tend to shy away from initiating the contact contact.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_05: It's not that they're afraid to get hit or they're afraid of contact, it's just like they feel like if I'm trying to get to the net and somebody's defending me, then my best option is to like keep skating away from that person as long as I can.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_05: And like, yeah, they might keep the puck, but now they've been taken into the corner.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_05: And I always am trying to be like you guys, like one of my favorite things to do when I was younger was like and playing full hit hockey, but I would honestly do it now, is like hold that puck and like make it your goal while you're holding the puck to knock that kid on their butt, like drop your shoulder, get to the net, don't let them drive you to the corner, don't let them win that angle.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_05: Like, you own that, you drive, you initiate the contact.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_05: And I see so many girls just get like skated off into nowhere because they're afraid of that when they have the puck on their stick.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_05: So that would be another one.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_05: It's just like contact initiation.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_05: Um, and then I think off the ice, um, I see so many girls, and again, I think this is just unfortunately a product of socialization, but I see so many girls, they have all the potential in the world, but they just are so in their head and afraid to make a mistake, or afraid to mess up, or afraid to look dumb and afraid, you know, whatever their reason is, afraid of failure.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_05: And I certainly had some of that too as a player, um, particularly the fear of failure one, but I it just kills me now to watch as a coach, and I'm like, oh my gosh, like just go for it.
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  SPEAKER_05: Like, who cares?
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_05: We're at private lessons, it's it's you and me.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_05: Like, who cares if you fall on your face?
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_05: Just freaking go.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_05: And I think, you know, that's something that I really wished if if you know, again, not to not to put girls in a box or boys in a box, but sometimes I think generally speaking, boys are just like, I can do it, even though they like don't actually even know what the drill is, right?
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_05: But they just like that's just what they're that's just like what they're conditioned to do.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_05: And girls are like, I think still many, the majority, maybe.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know, but like I think a lot of girls, at least I see, are still very much like, I'm gonna sit back, I'm gonna watch, I'm gonna do everything.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_05: Everything I can to do it correctly, but I'm not gonna go too hard because I don't want to screw it up either.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_05: And I'm just like stop thinking and just freaking go for it.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_05: Um so those those would be my three pieces of advice.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_03: Well, uh, that's fantastic.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_03: I love it.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_03: And uh uh wha what better place to try things than in practice, right?
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_03: Uh so two more questions, Lindsay.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_03: I want to be courteous of your time here.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_03: What do you wish more hockey parents understood about their kids and what they actually need from them on game days?
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_05: Um I mean, I I think at the end of the day, like, and I get it, you know, coaches vary, and you're gonna have challenges with coaches.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_05: That's just life, right?
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_05: Like you're gonna have challenges with some of your kids' teachers, but ultimately when you signed up for the program, you entrusted your kid's hockey experience with that coach.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_05: So I just think, you know, your job as the parent is to be the support system.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_05: Because one thing I found, especially coaching at like the higher tier one level, I can't do my job when I need to of being hard on a kid if I know that they're gonna go get in the car and get it doubled down on by their parent.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_05: Like I need their parent, kind of how you have that, like, you know, kind of heavy hand from one coach, and then you get like the assistant coach to be the you know, softer, picky back up type of person.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_05: Like those dynamics matter.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_05: And if I know that your confidence is like gonna get absolutely crushed if I am hard on you because your parents are about to go rip you in the car too, like that's not helpful.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_05: So I like that's that's really the relationship that I try to foster with parents is like, let me be the bad guy.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_05: You be the hero, but they want to come like fall into your arms when things are challenging, and also they want you to be their biggest cheerleader when things are going well, and I want you to be their biggest cheerleader when things are going really well.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_05: Um, so I think like just you know, trust like letting the coaches do their job is really important, and you're there to be the parent, so be the parent.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_05: And I know that's much easier said than done.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_05: Um, I think the other thing too is just like I think unfortunately nowadays the pathways are so shouldn't say the pathways, it's just there are so many different options, and some of them are absolutely legit, some of them are selling you a dream.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_05: And I I wish that parents would really do more research um and not just chase, you know, titles or things that really are, you know, fuel the ego more than anything.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_05: Um and I always tell people that I'm like, look, if you leave to go somewhere else and it's a reputable program and you're going for the right reasons, and I'm confident you'll be a good fit there, like I can get behind that.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_05: But when we have people leaving to go to like no-name places that are making a lot of big promises without much to back it up, that's when I have an issue.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_05: So I just I think if you have kind of that trusted person in your circle, um like ask questions, don't come to them after the fact and ask, like ask the questions up front because you get such a limited time with your children, and I'm learning that with my one and a half year old.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_05: Um it's amazing how fast that's already flown by, and I can only imagine when you have an 18-year-old.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_05: So I think like do what you can to keep them under your roof as long as you can.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_03: Great tips for the parents.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_03: Last question, Lindsay.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_03: You built the Arizona kachinas essentially from scratch.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, for the parents or coaches that are listening out there in a non-traditional hockey market, uh any tips for where they start?
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_03: If they if what worked for you?
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I I I will say it's it's it's a lot harder to start something new than it is to improve something that exists.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_05: So if we just you know, if we want to get real technical, like there's a lot of steps that you have to go through to even just get your status as a USA hockey program.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_05: Um you also, you know, obviously have to incorporate a business, which for some parents or people that have experience in that, that's not very scary.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_05: But um, you know, it's a step and it costs money and all those things.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_05: Um so I I would definitely say like, if you know, if something exists, really try to improve that first.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_05: That would be my first piece of advice.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_05: Um, because the alternative is sometimes, you know, what we saw here for 20 something years was it was like there was an existing girls program.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_05: You'd get one set of pissed off parents that are like, we're gonna go start our own thing, split the group, some of the kids quit, everything got diluted, and then we were right back to where we were.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_05: And it was like all that growth never happened.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_05: And and and we saw like three plus iterations of that.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_05: And some states you actually see them trying to put that back in the box um because they just tried to expand, you know, to multiple programs too quickly.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_05: And so um, I would say USA hockey's even doing that by putting in the tier one moratorium, by doing the DL.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_05: Like, I think there's there's a lot of that.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_05: So um all that to be said, like I think if you're starting something new, start it because nothing exists.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_05: Um, otherwise, if something exists, try to make it better.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_05: If neither of those things are true, um, you know, obviously, like first step is you got to get all the USA hockey stuff situated, read up on your policies, read up on all of the different ins and outs because there are a trillion of them.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_05: Get somebody in your corner who is extremely well versed on them and understands how it all works.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_05: Because if you go in blind, it you will more than likely fail.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_05: Um, and I think one of the biggest things that I've learned over the years is um well, there's like a million, but I would say when we were first starting out, two two of the big things were um I think for a while there we were so focused on trying to prevent people from leaving that we we lost our way a little bit, focusing on giving an incredible experience for the people that wanted to be here.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_05: So I, you know, if I could go back, I probably would have flipped that.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_05: Like you obviously want to fight for every kid to stay in your program, but when you undermine your culture by bending over backwards for the few, you you disenchant the many pretty quickly.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_05: Um, and the few usually end up leaving eventually anyway.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_05: So not always worth it.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_05: Um, I would say the other thing is I was very, very protective.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_05: Um, I mean, this was this was my baby, and I really struggled early on to like let people in to help.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_05: Um, and I still do to an extent.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_05: Like it, you know, I don't think it's like full-blown open season anybody can come in.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_05: There still has to be that that level of trust there that people are in it for the right reasons.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_05: But um we went through like a couple years ago a big expansion where we opened up a lot more seats on our board.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_05: Um we built out like a committee infrastructure, and it's not perfect.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_05: I'm not gonna pretend it's perfect, but it has certainly helped distribute a lot of the work and it allows us to put parents that have a lot of passion that maybe is not being directed in a great way right now.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_05: It gives it allows you to give them a job and give them something they can own and give them something that they can knock on the part, and quite frankly, put a little bit of the you know, the keys to the car in their hand.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_05: And that has been tremendously helpful to uh one of my one of my board members calls it weaponizing people.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_05: Like we know that we know they've they've got fight and we know they've got something that can be used.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_05: Let's let's use it in our favor, let's not fight against it.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_05: So those would be my couple of things.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_03: Well, words of wisdom from Lindsay Fry, president and co-founder of the Arizona Kachinas.
• 31:00
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• 31:05
  SPEAKER_05: Thank you so much, true.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_05: You too.
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• 32:50
  SPEAKER_03: Well, what'd you think?
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_01: I I think her story transcends just, you know, girls playing hockey.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_01: I think the the inspiration she took as a as a little as a little girl, teaching herself to play hockey, um, and then you know, taking those risks with her family to go outside of her comfort zone to get better and better, you know, finding that avenue.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_01: And then most impressed with, you know, aside from a lot of the the nuggets that she left in that interview, her coming back to Arizona and saying, I don't want you know other kids to have to make these choices.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_01: Let's let's see if we can create um an environment, a culture, um, opportunity here in my home state.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_01: And that's the way we're gonna organically grow this sport.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_01: I I'm just continually impressed by the guests we have, and and certainly an Olympian like Lindsay is is is no exception.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_01: She's phenomenal.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, she really highlighted, I feel like, uh before you are thinking about leaving home, and especially at a young age, 13, 14, potentially going to another program in another state and another city.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, look, if if there's a good story there, if it's a good reputable program, if there's truly truly an opening, if there's a role for you, if that there's an opening for that role, if the stars are uh aligned that way, then she'll get behind it and she'll support it.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_03: But uh she also highlighted just the risk.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_03: And then if there's not that kind of alignment of the stars, there's a lot of parents out there in particular that are chasing this this concept, this idea of something that's out there.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_03: And uh and so I think she did a really good job of saying uh why?
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_03: Why, unless there's a really good reason.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_03: And if there's not a really good reason, stay home, stay with your family, stay closer to your family.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, you're not gonna get those years back.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, you can go play hockey uh somewhere else at an older age, but continue to grow and develop.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, and we see this personally with people we have relationships with.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, it's it's it's a balance, um, you know, because there are places to play.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I I tell players and parents who I talk to, you know, if you want to go to the store and shop around, you're gonna find something to buy.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_01: And that's you know, there are plenty of leagues and plenty of teams, but if you start with the end in mind, which is an old education, you know, thought process, it definitely is start with the end in mind, and what is the goal?
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and things have changed a lot, even in the last five years.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, um, as the girls' game has developed and grown, uh, there there are more opportunities.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and and there are opportunities to stay home.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_01: But I I think that you know, a wise person once said to me, I haven't raised this kid for 15 years to watch him or her go away.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um, especially when they're 18, 19, 20.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_01: That that's kind of the natural, natural progression.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_01: It it's it's a topic in hockey that is kind of unique to hockey.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if too many other sports where we're sending our kids away to other cities, sometimes other countries, to live with strangers.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um what is that end result that you're that you're looking for?
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_01: And in some instances, uh like if the kid's driving and it's done with a true heart, then yeah, absolutely.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_01: But there's a lot of time where I think that like people are shopping around for an idea.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and I and I would say it's hard to drive at you know 12, 13, 14.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_03: Very hard to drive.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_03: Uh one thing she uh that was eye-opening for me that I was really looking for, especially with us as coaches, coaching girls, and we've had uh the good fortune over the last year to talk to really smart people invested in women's hockey, Rachel Bartlett, uh uh just being one of them.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_01: But uh Kristen Sager, USA Hockey.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, USA hockey, Sly Kai.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_03: But you know, uh, what is something that girls can take away?
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_03: And so what I loved, absolutely loved, and I hadn't heard this before, is just shoot more and attack the net.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_03: And one one point that she made, uh, and a little backstory on this, uh, just this point is she played four full years of contact hockey with boys.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_03: So she is not afraid of physical contact in any way.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_03: But what she did say, the point I want to drive home, is that girls sometimes are apprehensive with initiating contact.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_03: And I think we've seen that at times from some of the uh girls uh that we've had the opportunity to coach.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_03: So shoot more, uh, work on your shot.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_03: That's really a way that girls can separate themselves from the pack and also don't be afraid to initiate contact.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_03: And she put it in the context of failing forward that boys are are perfectly fine with failing forward.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_03: Girls sometimes are a little bit more apprehensive around that.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_03: So I thought that was fascinating.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it you know, it really brought a lot of credence to our friend Rachel when she said girls perform better when they feel good, and boys feel good when they perform better.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_01: I took a couple of isms from Lindsay's interview, um, one of which is confidence, confidence is a skill.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_01: And just like you're developing that shot and you're developing that attack mentality, whether you're a young girl or a young boy, um, that not being afraid to fail forward, that's helping you develop that confidence as a skill.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_01: And I think as coaches, um I feel like we're in business class.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_01: Fail forward, fail forward before.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um and again, don't focus on being perfect.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_01: Hockey's not hockey's a game of mistakes, yeah.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_03: And we're a flawed species.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_03: I say this frequently.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, so we're we're perfectly fine with with failing and and and being dumb, uh, boys in general.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, for sure, for sure.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_01: But um, you know, she had a comment in here, and I'm I'm going back and looking at my notes after I listened, um, specifically about the the girls and their mentality, and um it it was very similar with what uh what uh um gosh darn it was I'm struggling to find well she had a lot of good comments.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_01: One of the things that I really liked about her though when she was talking about leadership and about coaching, is if you're focusing on the few, you disenchant the many.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_01: That's like Yoda.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_01: That is like Yoda, and so I um I was thoroughly impressed with Lindsay, as I knew I would be.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and once again, great uh great job getting another awesome guest in for too many men on the mic.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_03: I feel like we need a Yoda on the table.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_01: We can get a Yoda with a hockey stick.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there you go.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure we could 3D print that or something.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_01: We know some 3D printers.
• 40:16
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• 40:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um you know, but uh it and she has a you know from a coaching standpoint too, talking about um, you know, coaches need to feel go feel confident to challenge the players, and parents need to realize that that challenge of the players is for their benefit and to kind of be that safe place for your kids in the car.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, I just had a moment when I was talking with her about that, uh uh and she really laid it out, I feel like, and was articulate and saying, you know, let me be the coach, uh, let me be the bad person, uh, good, you know, uh good cop, bad cop kind of role.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_03: Um, because uh what she doesn't want to do is be tough uh and and instruct and help these kids develop, only to turn them over to their parents, knowing that they're gonna have a tough ride home with mom and dad.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, and maybe mom and dad are gonna say, you know, why didn't you or you should uh next time do this?
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_03: And so I feel like uh she really tried to um promote for all the parents out there listening, just be your kid's supporter, be your kid's advocate uh in the car, let the coach coach do their thing.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, you just support them because probably one of the best things that you can do as a parent on the backside of a coach, uh given some firm discipline, is just tell your kid you love watching them uh and that they played great and and keep it at that.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_01: You know, one of the things that I equate that to is practice being a grandparent.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, there you go.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_01: You know, hockey as a uh you know, it's so stressful being a parent.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_01: Spoiler shocker, you know, water's wet, the sun's hot, stressful being a parent.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um you have this opportunity uh to be a fan.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_01: Give, you know, I felt like she was giving parents permission to be a fan.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_01: And I like putting it in the context of something that I've used in my life, and it's like, hey, as a parent, whether it's hockey, soccer, competitive diving, whatever table tennis, practice being a grandparent, not a parent.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_03: And maybe that that'll that'll create harmony and I like your listen, just practice being a fan, yeah, just practice to be a fan, yeah.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so uh uh great isms, great takeaways, as always.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_03: We're so fortunate to have great guests on the Too Many Men on the Mike show.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_03: This is just yet another uh great example of that.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_03: But we are uh uh right on the other side of the cusp.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_03: And uh we're we're on the other side of a magical date for you and I, which is uh way back in the June 2025 program.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_03: We started the show, the concept, the idea, and said we're gonna help people, parents, uh, coaches, uh hockey players get better at the sport, help them navigate the journey.
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_03: And here we are, right on the other side of a little uh RR for you and me.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_03: And uh, I don't know about you, but I feel refreshed.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_03: I'm ready to dig in, and I can't wait to unleash year two too many men on the mic content for our listeners out there.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_01: Well, people that know me know that I'm not a big remember when conversation guy, but I I do I like to look back and and kind of like think about what we learned.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_01: And we had these best of shows, which I thought were great to give us a little bit of retrospect.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I loved how over the course of 12 months we we kind of failed forward, and we had moments absolutely we had moments as as podcasting hosts that we were like, hey.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_01: Squeezing the squeezing the stick a little too tight here, turning it into sawdust.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_01: Well, to graphite.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but it we kind of you know pivoted and brought new ideas and weren't afraid to try stuff.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I think of like the drill draw, you know, coming up with the drill draw halfway through the year.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_03: Thanks, Drift hockey.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you, Drift Hockey Brian Dolan.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um, go to drifthockey.com, which I think for the bench, which I think has been fantastic.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_03: I absolutely loved having the kids do the drill draw because we kind of talked about that as a concept at the beginning, you know, have the kids talk about what their favorite drill is, but then we took it to another level.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_03: I feel like uh here just recently, where we were able to use drift and visually show the audience and kids and uh parents out there and coaches uh why that drill is a good drill and why you should consider adding it to your practice plan.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that the other things that we we did, you know, incorporating Grant more into the show and creating it, you know, creating that personality.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_01: And Grant had no idea, had no idea when he first met us.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_01: He's he's he's sitting behind the glass, a good old K L I S.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_01: And all of a sudden he's like, Who are these guys and why are they not talking to me?
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_01: Why do they keep talking to me?
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_01: And now, you know, we we had Grant out on the ice finally last week, which was a ton of fun.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_01: Go to our YouTube channel or Instagram and see some clips of that.
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_03: And he and he did a fabulous job sitting in when I was on assignment.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_03: I uh I was grinning ear to ear, uh listening from afar.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, I thought he did a fantastic job uh stepping right in, but that's because he had been with us right along the journey.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_03: And uh I I I think he learned some skills.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_03: We could probably have a whole episode of of Grant reflecting on his knowledge of hockey and where he came from way back at the beginning in June of 2025 to where he is now.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, we got him on the ice last week, so uh, you know, we're getting him there slowly but surely.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_01: So briefly looking back, what was your whether it was like your most your most the the your most favorite thing that happened on the show or with the show, an inflection point, something where you were like, hey, this was this is this can be more than just fun.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I really enjoyed uh I remember the Louisville episode.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_03: Louisville Louisville Louisville.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_03: And uh uh that was one of our first youth hockey associations that we had on.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_03: And uh what I really took away from that was that it's really cool to feature all these voices from th uh throughout the country.
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_03: I think of the Pensacola and how uh they've got, I think, one rink, and so they supplement that by going to the roller hockey rink that's on the beach right by the ocean.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_03: And it's just great stories like that where you know, kind of the idea of you can make a game anywhere, and we're not gonna be limited just by the fact that we have one rink, we're gonna make our own rink and we're gonna we're gonna figure out how to play in another place in uh Alaska and Las Vegas.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_03: And so I just I loved bringing all these youth hockey voices from throughout the country, and then learning along the way.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I remember Omaha, where they told us that uh on how they practice plan and how they set up hour and a half practices so they've got 30 minutes of full ice and 30 minutes on their own, and they schedule it in a way that works for all their clubs, and they have lots and lots of teams.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_03: So I could go on and on about the youth hockey associations.
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_03: I think uh kudos to you.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_03: You really saw an opportunity with uh our local high school hockey program and league, and uh we were looking at them originally as just being a sponsor, but that really morphed into let's make it something more, and we turned that into a game of the week.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_03: It's kind of like the uh, you know, I like contact sports, so I like the game of the week on NFL football.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_03: There's always kind of a a marquee game, and so to me, that was our kind of youth hockey answer to a game of the week.
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_03: Those are two things that you know stick out to me.
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_01: I I think my my my inflection points and where I was like, okay, we're we can do this.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it was also terrifying at the same time.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, sure.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um fail forward.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we uh we we signed big bear tournaments, and and I can't, you know, I I will always be very, very grateful to to Mark and Mitch and that the team there that were willing to come on this journey and really be you know unbelievable partners early on.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um sitting with Shannon Brahini in uh at the uh Panera Bread over there in DePair and just knowing that you know we we've we've got something um real here.
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but ultimately talking to people who are like, hey, your email was a little late coming out.
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_01: Are you guys what's going on?
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_01: So like realizing right away where people were like, hey, um, we're downloading your episode, or I'm on my walk with my dog and listen to you guys on Spotify.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, the questions about Grant when we moved and took over our own thing.
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_03: Totally.
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_03: Like, where's Grant and what's going on with him?
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_03: I would also say uh bringing a spotlight to the moms.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_03: Huge, huge, you know, we we had moms as a focus group before we even started the show, and we talked to them about what topics were interesting, and then we had uh, I think one of our highest-rated segments was a mom's episode uh back in the spring.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_03: And so uh I I would only amplify that by saying, you know, the women that uh drive youth hockey, some of the great coaches out there, some of them we've already named this episode, and bringing a voice to them and a part of our game that is the fastest growing part of our game.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yep, and uh and bringing those voices to our listeners.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_03: That's that that's been a lot of fun too.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_01: Well, before we look forward, one thing I want to make sure that we do um as we as we put a bow on our first year, an official bow on our first year, is uh say thank you to the businesses and the organizations, both locally here in St.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_01: Louis and around the country, who believed in us.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_01: And so Big Bear Tournaments, 5B designs, chicken and pickle, uh, Mattingley Lumber, Washington University uh orthopedics, uh, Vantage Credit Union, Joe Watson of Stiefle, um, and mid-states.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_01: Uh we can't thank you guys enough, uh, you guys and girls, so much for believing in us and really giving us the the platform and forum to bring an even better year.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and most importantly, I I want to say thank you to Bob Mancini, USA Hockey, and uh, you know, being affiliated with the show, being regular contributors, the godfather of fun.
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_01: It's been it's been amazing and it's opened up so many opportunities and doors for us.
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_01: We can't thank you enough.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but uh we gotta look forward and let's talk about uh let's talk about 2026-27.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_03: I I mean just bigger, better, um, always figuring out ways to improve.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_03: I'm so looking forward to uh another season of Mid-States hockey.
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_03: And uh what that means is uh the format might change a little bit.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I'm really excited to announce uh uh our new sponsor.
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_03: Uh that next week.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_03: Presenting sponsor.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_03: A presenting sponsor that uh that we'll that we'll be bringing into the fold.
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_03: Uh we've got some cool ideas like I don't know, tournaments and uh maybe even a youth hockey pickleball league that's in store.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_03: And so uh when I think of what's ahead, uh the opportunities are endless.
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_03: One thing we are gonna conquer though, and this is uh me falling on my sword, is uh uh I am the least qualified in this too many men on the mic operation at social media.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_03: And I say that, and and uh uh I know that.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_03: And so one of my goals this year is uh for us to get uh only improve our social media content.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_03: And so, what I think that means for listeners, subscribers uh out there is you're gonna see more content from us, you're gonna see it on a more frequent basis, uh, probably closer to the daily.
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_03: And uh uh I'm so old that uh I'm gonna listen to some of the younger people and their ideas, help coach us and for us to get better at that because uh we've got a lot of players that are out there that listen, and uh especially through the mid-state segment uh last year.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_03: Uh boy, uh I learned that right off the bat.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, am I gonna be on Instagram?
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_03: Uh is this interview gonna be out there?
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_03: Is it something that I can share with my friends and my family?
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_03: And so uh we're gonna give the listeners and the interviewees uh what they want, and we're gonna get better in that area.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna commit to it and I'm gonna learn a little bit along the way.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_01: And I think through it all, you know, the the key focus, you know, organizations, people are successful when they stay true to their roots and as they're growing.
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_01: We're always gonna bring this back.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_01: Number one, it's going to be a players, coaches, and parents show everything we do, the fun we have, um, the people we bring on, the events that we look to do.
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_01: It's all driving um to help people learn this sport, enjoy this sport, and remember that hockey is more fun the better you get at it.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_01: And um, you know, and and I'm I'm most excited about our ability this year to give back.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you know, we've we've worked out a couple of agreements with some local hockey charities and foundations where we're going to be donating skates to players in need, uh, especially those that are constantly growing.
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_01: And halfway through the year, all of a sudden you realize, oh my gosh, I may have to spend three to four hundred dollars that I was not budgeting for.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_01: And hockey's expensive enough, and now we're fortunate enough with the success that we've had here this first year that we're gonna be able to give back in a very tangible way.
• 54:15
  SPEAKER_01: And we're hoping that some of our friends here in the hockey community in St.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_01: Louis and around the country get on board with us with that.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_01: And that's a big thank you to RK and Luna Sports for being able to empower us to do that.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_01: So that's huge.
• 54:27
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I feel like that's a ball of momentum that's moving, and uh, how exciting to be able to uh give some families and a very expensive sport just a little bit of relief uh with a critical, probably the most critical piece of equipment, which is uh skates, and so thrilled to do that.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I uh my my hope is we can only grow that number to get as big as possible and then uh look at this on uh 1231 uh 26 and say, what's the tally?
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_03: How many skates were we able to put out there?
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely, and again, big thanks to RK Sports and Luna Sports for helping us.
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, they've donated, I believe, four pairs right off the bat that we'll be able to give away.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_01: And if we can get some other businesses involved, we'll be able to buy some more and and and give those away as well.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_01: So huge things that we're gonna be doing in and around the community.
• 55:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but again, thank you to all of our sponsors, and most importantly, thank you to our wives for letting us do this.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_01: There, our wives for letting us do this because we wait a minute, we kind of take off once a week or twice a week and do this.
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_01: Is this so you can get the second dog?
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_01: You saw it's circle, it's coming full circle.
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_01: It's coming full circle.
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_01: I I uh I sniffed that out.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_01: And more that's what you just did there.
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_01: And most importantly, thank you to all the listeners who are driving those numbers and analytics that are allowing us to like, subscribe, repost, all that great stuff allows us to continue this.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_01: And um, there's gonna be some really, really exciting things happening in 2627.
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_03: So let's fire up a drill.
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_01: Let's absolutely fire up a drill draw here and uh courtesy of our friends at Drift Hockey.
• 56:19
  SPEAKER_01: We know what that music means.
• 56:21
  SPEAKER_01: You've been watching the show here for the better part of uh a year, and you know that Coach Drew and Coach Jared are big fans of NHL 94 back in the Sega.
• 56:30
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• 56:32
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• 56:35
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• 56:43
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, you can even schedule games.
• 56:45
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• 56:47
  SPEAKER_01: All right, coach, you are up with uh you're up with it's it's you're you're on the you're on the clock for the drill drawing.
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_03: I love it.
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_03: I love it.
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_03: Well, this is a this is a drill that's progressive, and it really is designed, uh, it gives you flexibility around uh your goaltending situation because you may have one goalie, you may have two goalies.
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_03: It also depends on um the level of hockey you play.
• 57:14
  SPEAKER_03: And um with older kids, maybe you have kids that play high school, but also play club.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_03: And so uh let's start it first uh with a net.
• 57:24
  SPEAKER_03: And we're gonna put the net normally where it is, right below the goal line, and we're gonna assume uh in this draw or drill draw that we've only got one goalie.
• 57:33
  SPEAKER_03: I'll come back to that here in a second.
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_03: So we good there?
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yep, right there.
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_03: All right, and then we're going to put uh two players, uh let's do two players in blue in front of the net.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_03: Let's put a goalie in front of the net.
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_03: How about that?
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_03: Let's start with a goalie.
• 57:49
  SPEAKER_03: Give them some love.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_03: Give a goalie.
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_01: We'll make the goalie red.
• 57:55
  SPEAKER_03: Good, perfect.
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_03: And then let's put two players of uh opposing color, also kind of in the slot area in front of the goalie.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_03: How's that look?
• 58:09
  SPEAKER_03: Looks great.
• 58:10
  SPEAKER_01: Great.
• 58:10
  SPEAKER_03: And then uh let's put two more players of an opposing color uh right beside them in front of the nets.
• 58:16
  SPEAKER_01: These guys are on the goalies.
• 58:18
  SPEAKER_03: Correct.
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_01: How's that look?
• 58:22
  SPEAKER_03: That looks great, and let's put a coach right above the blue line, right in the middle.
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_03: And let's give him a set of pucks.
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_01: A gaggle of pucks.
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_01: A gaggle.
• 58:37
  SPEAKER_01: Let's give him two gaggles.
• 58:39
  SPEAKER_01: There we go.
• 58:39
  SPEAKER_03: Perfect, perfect.
• 58:41
  SPEAKER_03: And then let's take red players and right from where your uh cursor was just a second ago with that puck.
• 58:49
  SPEAKER_03: Let's line them up on the blue line all the way from that puck all the way to the top of the boards.
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_03: And let's just throw, I don't know, five, six players out there.
• 58:59
  SPEAKER_03: Put them in a line.
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_03: And then let's do the same thing with uh blue players on the other side going to the other.
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_03: You're like the Bob Ross of Drill Draw Rated.
• 59:12
  SPEAKER_03: I just want to let you know.
• 59:13
  SPEAKER_01: For the sorry if you don't know who Bob Ross is, but it's like the happy painter.
• 59:17
  SPEAKER_01: We'll put a little happy little book right there.
• 59:19
  SPEAKER_01: We should do it, we should do a Bob Ross episode.
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_01: Fantastic.
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, and so uh so so what do we got?
• 59:28
  SPEAKER_03: We got a two-on-two in front of the net.
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_03: And why are all those players uh along the blue line?
• 59:33
  SPEAKER_03: Well, they're there because they're available.
• 59:36
  SPEAKER_03: And one of the things I like about this drill is that you got to pay attention and everybody can be involved.
• 59:41
  SPEAKER_03: So first step is the coach is gonna fire the puck in.
• 59:45
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, and yep, there you go.
• 59:47
  SPEAKER_03: And so suddenly we got a two-on-two battle.
• 59:51
  SPEAKER_03: And if you uh if you choose to, let's say that uh let's say that blue player uh down by the uh the arrow wins the puck.
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_03: So let's let that blue player grab the puck.
• 1:00:06
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_01: He's gonna come down here.
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_01: There we go.
• 1:00:09
  SPEAKER_01: Look at that puck.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_01: I wish he would have taken a straight line, but for effect, we're gonna do it, we're gonna bow to the puck.
• 1:00:16
  SPEAKER_03: Edgework.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_03: So this blue player obviously can uh choose to just keep the play between the two on two.
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, and there's nothing wrong with that.
• 1:00:29
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, if they feel like they've got a play down by the net and they feel that they can score without using help from the players on their team, they can play that out.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_03: But let's say uh one of those red players angles him uh into the corner or perhaps takes the puck away.
• 1:00:46
  SPEAKER_03: Either one.
• 1:00:48
  SPEAKER_03: So suddenly uh those players have the option to use the players up on the blue line.
• 1:00:55
  SPEAKER_03: Now, if you're a coach out there listening, you can keep it as simple as moving the puck up to the players on the blue line with an understanding that the players on the blue line are stationary, all they can do is pass, they cannot shoot, and so it's truly give and go, moving the puck back and forth depending on what color you are.
• 1:01:17
  SPEAKER_03: Now, let's say you want to progress this drill, and so then you could uh change it up after maybe running this drill for I don't know, let's say three to four minutes, and you could decide uh you can activate players.
• 1:01:33
  SPEAKER_03: So that's in the way that you could you could progress this drill where suddenly that defenseman joins the play and be and can become part of it.
• 1:01:42
  SPEAKER_03: And so suddenly then you have an odd man situation.
• 1:01:44
  SPEAKER_03: You've got a three on two where you didn't have one before.
• 1:01:48
  SPEAKER_03: You could add another wrinkle to it and say, Well, we're gonna activate players, but you can't activate uh there can there can be no more than four players on uh either team at any given time.
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_03: So uh this is a good drill to start simple, build on it, progress it, and then decide um how far you want to take it.
• 1:02:12
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, you could even decide if uh you want to give those players on the blue line the opportunity to shoot.
• 1:02:18
  SPEAKER_03: Why would you do that?
• 1:02:20
  SPEAKER_03: Because you've got a bunch of players that are around the front of the net.
• 1:02:23
  SPEAKER_03: So if you're gonna take that step, what I would say is make sure your defensemen and your forwards know the deal.
• 1:02:29
  SPEAKER_03: The deal is the defensemen shoot low, the forwards go to the net and feel safe going to the net because they're not gonna get hit in the head because they know the defensemen are gonna shoot low.
• 1:02:38
  SPEAKER_03: So that's yet another progression that you could add to this.
• 1:02:42
  SPEAKER_03: So I like this drill because you can keep it really basic.
• 1:02:46
  SPEAKER_03: If you have young players, when I used to run this drill, we would just keep the players on the blue line stationary, or maybe we would activate one, maybe two tops.
• 1:02:56
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, if you work with older players, you can add multiple wrinkles in that and decide how far you want to take it as a coach.
• 1:03:04
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, but it's a great drill to do with one goalie in one net.
• 1:03:08
  SPEAKER_03: If you do have two goalies, you can play the same game.
• 1:03:12
  SPEAKER_03: Obviously, you're playing cross ice then.
• 1:03:14
  SPEAKER_03: So then you're gonna have two goals uh in either side of the circle, uh, but the same concept.
• 1:03:20
  SPEAKER_03: And so it's uh it's a fun drill because everybody's involved.
• 1:03:25
  SPEAKER_03: And one of the things in coaching, I feel like we're always looking for is how do we keep players involved uh so people aren't just simply standing in line and moving through.
• 1:03:36
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm naming it Aikers Attack Edition.
• 1:03:38
  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
• 1:03:39
  SPEAKER_01: So um love this.
• 1:03:41
  SPEAKER_01: Love the op love the uh optionality there of having the players as bumpers only and then activating to go to three on two, three v three, four v three.
• 1:03:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but then also just hey, pucks on your stick, make a play with it, you know.
• 1:03:59
  SPEAKER_01: And and I think it it's like you said, um, I hate having kids stand around.
• 1:04:04
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes you got to have lines.
• 1:04:05
  SPEAKER_01: We understand that.
• 1:04:06
  SPEAKER_01: Otherwise, people are just milling all over the place doing their own thing.
• 1:04:09
  SPEAKER_01: But we want to make sure that they're focused.
• 1:04:11
  SPEAKER_01: And I think when you tell them, hey, you're part of this drill no matter where you are on the ice, that's a great thing, no matter what age group.
• 1:04:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um, even NHLers can uh can can uh benefit from that.
• 1:04:21
  SPEAKER_03: So we'll steal it if you're a coach, add it to your practice plan if you find it valuable.
• 1:04:26
  SPEAKER_03: And always, thanks to Drift Hockey and Brian for uh making the website.
• 1:04:34
  SPEAKER_01: Too many men on the mic, that's the number two.
• 1:04:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um head on down to the coach's corner, and the coach is actually able to download this and all other drills that we've had with our special guests from the USA Hockey Hockey Association across the country.
• 1:04:47
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• 1:04:48
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• 1:04:53
  SPEAKER_03: So every so every time we every time I hear that music, it it makes me think, and and now I'm and now I'm gonna put a challenge out there.
• 1:05:04
  SPEAKER_03: And uh uh Grant is also on assignment.
• 1:05:07
  SPEAKER_03: He's on his R and R right now, but when he gets back, uh I think we should have a two-minute mic on the episode, but I think it should be uh Sega Battles.
• 1:05:17
  SPEAKER_01: Gretzky making Gretzky bleed in '94.
• 1:05:21
  SPEAKER_01: They took it out of the game.
• 1:05:22
  SPEAKER_03: We could be like swingers, the movie swingers.
• 1:05:24
  SPEAKER_03: Jeremy Roanick.
• 1:05:26
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, just you know he was not fair in that game.
• 1:05:29
  SPEAKER_03: We we could so we'll come up with a round, Robin.
• 1:05:32
  SPEAKER_03: You know, you you and I play, you and Grant play, Grant and I play.
• 1:05:36
  SPEAKER_03: We figure out how to do a little mini tournament, and uh, I want to see what Grant's skills are like in in Sega.
• 1:05:43
  SPEAKER_01: They gotta be better than what they were on the ice last Friday.
• 1:05:46
  SPEAKER_01: I will give him credit, he did not fall.
• 1:05:48
  SPEAKER_01: But again, head over to our Too Many Men on the Mic Instagram page or our YouTube channel, and you'll see uh some some hot clips of Grant going in on breakaways, going in on three on oh.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um complaining about the gear.
• 1:06:03
  SPEAKER_01: He was like a 10-year-old.
• 1:06:04
  SPEAKER_02: It's too big.
• 1:06:05
  SPEAKER_03: It's too itchy.
• 1:06:06
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, there was a moment where he was just like, How do I put the skates on?
• 1:06:10
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, dude, come on.
• 1:06:13
  SPEAKER_03: But you know what?
• 1:06:14
  SPEAKER_03: He did have a shot.
• 1:06:14
  SPEAKER_03: I'll I'll give him kudos to that.
• 1:06:16
  SPEAKER_03: He had a he had a better release than I than I thought.
• 1:06:19
  SPEAKER_01: And uh not a shot unless it's between the pipes.
• 1:06:26
  SPEAKER_03: Well, check out the video.
• 1:06:27
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, great banter.
• 1:06:29
  SPEAKER_03: Uh and uh, you know, we were on him for a while.
• 1:06:32
  SPEAKER_03: So we were we finally made it happen.
• 1:06:35
  SPEAKER_03: He actually showed up and uh he didn't ghost us.
• 1:06:38
  SPEAKER_03: He came to practice and we got the kids involved and made it a thing.
• 1:06:41
  SPEAKER_03: It was fun.
• 1:06:42
  SPEAKER_01: Now, if we can only get him out to a gig, I know, right?
• 1:06:44
  SPEAKER_01: Goals that's you know goals, yeah.
• 1:06:47
  SPEAKER_01: Very, very uh, you know, baby steps for Grant to come out and listen to Yacht Rock and good good old classic rock.
• 1:06:55
  SPEAKER_01: He doesn't know what yacht rock is.
• 1:06:56
  SPEAKER_03: I I we should ask him what his favorite is.
• 1:06:58
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody knows Yacht Rock is.
• 1:07:00
  SPEAKER_02: Does he know who the Eagles are?
• 1:07:02
  SPEAKER_02: Are the Eagles Yacht Rock or are they California?
• 1:07:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they're kind of California rock.
• 1:07:06
  SPEAKER_02: I'm I I'm thinking of like the Little River Band.
• 1:07:08
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
• 1:07:09
  SPEAKER_02: Steely Dan.
• 1:07:10
  SPEAKER_03: I was just listening to Little River Band.
• 1:07:12
  SPEAKER_03: What was the song?
• 1:07:13
  SPEAKER_03: What was the song?
• 1:07:13
  SPEAKER_03: Uh well, it was Happy Anniversary.
• 1:07:16
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, yeah, which is a good one.
• 1:07:17
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, favorite Little River Band song.
• 1:07:19
  SPEAKER_03: Reminiscing.
• 1:07:20
  SPEAKER_02: Oof.
• 1:07:21
  SPEAKER_03: Handstand.
• 1:07:21
  SPEAKER_03: That is a good one.
• 1:07:22
  SPEAKER_03: One of the greatest songs ever.
• 1:07:24
  SPEAKER_01: Lady.
• 1:07:25
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, Lady's great.
• 1:07:26
  SPEAKER_01: Ladies, ladies, excellent.
• 1:07:27
  SPEAKER_03: Um, underrated band.
• 1:07:29
  SPEAKER_01: Night outrated fantastic song.
• 1:07:32
  SPEAKER_01: Night Hollis.
• 1:07:33
  SPEAKER_01: Night Howl is great.
• 1:07:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:07:35
  SPEAKER_01: The bass line in there.
• 1:07:36
  SPEAKER_03: Little River Band's sneaky because it's one of those bands that you hear on the radio and it comes on and it's like, yeah, yeah.
• 1:07:41
  SPEAKER_03: And then suddenly you're singing along to it, and you're like, Yeah, this is actually a pretty good song.
• 1:07:45
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, wait a minute.
• 1:07:45
  SPEAKER_03: It is the Little River Band.
• 1:07:47
  SPEAKER_03: I actually like some of their songs.
• 1:07:48
  SPEAKER_01: Some of the great, you know, let's I mean, it's tribute to Australia.
• 1:07:52
  SPEAKER_01: Little River Band were they're from Australia, right?
• 1:07:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:07:55
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 1:07:55
  SPEAKER_01: Are they?
• 1:07:56
  SPEAKER_01: I think they're from Australia.
• 1:07:57
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I believe they men at work, except for except for Colin Hay, the whole band's from Australia.
• 1:08:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, Midnight Oil.
• 1:08:05
  unknown: Oh, Midnight Oil.
• 1:08:07
  SPEAKER_01: Midnight Oil.
• 1:08:08
  SPEAKER_01: So good.
• 1:08:08
  SPEAKER_01: So I I worked with this guy years ago.
• 1:08:10
  SPEAKER_01: He's a big Midnight Oil fan.
• 1:08:12
  SPEAKER_01: And our boss saw this like album.
• 1:08:14
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, is that a Kenneth Cole ad?
• 1:08:17
  SPEAKER_01: Now we're really dating ourselves.
• 1:08:19
  SPEAKER_01: We're getting a little slappy here.
• 1:08:20
  SPEAKER_03: Beds are burning.
• 1:08:21
  SPEAKER_01: Beds are burning.
• 1:08:23
  SPEAKER_01: Um I'm trying to think.
• 1:08:24
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, everybody just thinks of ACDC, but there, I mean, well, we gotta talk to Grant when he gets back.
• 1:08:28
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 1:08:30
  SPEAKER_03: And we gotta tee up this Sega thing.
• 1:08:32
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, I think we should have a whole entire episode on Sega, and then uh we should get uh some banner going, get some people to chime in uh and and and make it uh you know, get get get some comments going.
• 1:08:44
  SPEAKER_03: 100%, 100%.
• 1:08:45
  SPEAKER_01: It'll be a bunch of everybody over the age of 45, but who cares?
• 1:08:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um because it's certainly not what they play today, that's for sure.
• 1:08:54
  SPEAKER_01: Well, folks, um, again, thank you so much for the great year.
• 1:08:58
  SPEAKER_01: We're kind of it's kind of been like it's like the holiday season, right?
• 1:09:02
  SPEAKER_01: The end of the year, um, being able to kind of look back.
• 1:09:05
  SPEAKER_01: We've had about three or four weeks of uh of of best of and nostalgia, and now we're clear-eyed and ready for a great season ahead of us.
• 1:09:14
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you as always to our sponsors.
• 1:09:15
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you to Drift Hockey, thank you to 5B Designs.
• 1:09:18
  SPEAKER_01: Big announcement next week.
• 1:09:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and uh, you know, let's go, let's go.
• 1:09:23
  SPEAKER_01: Uh we got a little golf golf action tomorrow, which will be yesterday when the show actually drops.
• 1:09:28
  SPEAKER_01: Real quick before we go, um, we would be remiss if we didn't offer our condolences and thoughts to the Pruss family, um, the Liberty Hockey family, the Car Shield hockey family, and the St.
• 1:09:39
  SPEAKER_01: Peter's hockey family.
• 1:09:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um, we lost a great young man uh in the hockey community, Zach Pruss, uh, over the past uh weekend.
• 1:09:49
  SPEAKER_01: And um we actually were affected.
• 1:09:52
  SPEAKER_01: Uh we actually had Zach uh and some of his teammates on the show and his coach Mark Turnerspeed on the show back in January when Liberty uh played Holt in the mid-states game of the week.
• 1:10:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um, just a dynamic kid, funny, fun-loving, great teammate, and by all accounts, just uh a wonderful, wonderful um young man.
• 1:10:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um so our hearts go out to his mom, dad, his family, and to his hockey family at Liberty High School, Car Shield in St.
• 1:10:19
  SPEAKER_01: Peter's.
• 1:10:20
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, the too many men on the mic uh family wants to just extend our condolences and and tell everybody if you're um put a stick out on the front porch, sticks out for Zach, and uh hug your loved ones.
• 1:10:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um never a great thing.
• 1:10:34
  SPEAKER_01: And um again, uh condolences to the family.