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The Mandela Effect & Deja Vu: Weird Glitches in the Memory Matrix (Monday Bonus in honor of Groundhog Day) · Paranormal Lens - A Crossroads Of Curiosities, LLC Production

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  Okay, so in honor of Groundhog Day, which is
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  a movie for the unaware about a guy who repeats
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  the same day over and over every day. Well, it's
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  not just a movie. It is a holiday. Precisely.
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  We're airing this on Groundhog Day, so I don't
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  know. I'm not psyching enough to know what Phil
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  or here in Michigan Woody is going to say about
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  our winter status. So I can't comment on that.
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  But I can't comment on the movie, which is about
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  doing the same thing over and over. So in honor
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  of Groundhog Day, which is a movie about a guy
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  who experiences the same day over and over and
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  over and over. So in honor of Groundhog Day,
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  which is... So in honor of Groundhog Day, which
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  is a movie about a guy who experienced... Every
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  single person who's listening to this 100 % just
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  turned it off. 100 % just turned this off. I
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  want to leave. No listens to this. We're going
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  to talk about... deja vu and like the mandela
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  effect like weird memory glitches in the matrix
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  that you got up in your brain kind of related
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  to groundhog day um so in honor of groundhog
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  day which is a movie where stop it get to the
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  point can we just roll the title sequence welcome
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  to our podcast where we take deep dives looking
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  at various topics through a paranormal lens so
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  i have a question for you guys have you ever
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  experienced deja vu yes no i can't tell if you're
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  like saying that like you haven't or like telling
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  angela like no sweetie i have not i have not
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  experienced deja vu i don't think so anyways
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  you've never had that feeling before where you're
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  like this seems really familiar well like i lived
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  this already not necessarily like not necessarily
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  like deja vu where i'm like oh this has happened
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  before more of like oh I've been here before,
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  but I've never actually been to that place. But
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  that's not really, like, deja vu. You might be
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  the only person who hasn't, like, experienced
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  that deja vu feeling. That's really whack. Now
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  for you, Angela, does it happen only when you,
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  like, drive through construction zones? You're
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  like, I swear I've driven through this one before.
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  um no i i actually agree with brie on this i
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  haven't had any like particular moments where
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  i'm like i lived this moment but for example
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  madison seminary felt really like familiar like
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  some investigations we do i feel like what like
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  what does this remind me of and i've never been
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  there in my life and i can't think of what it
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  reminds me of you know what i mean But it just
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  feels like a familiar place. Madison Seminary
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  was one of them. Definitely do not get that feeling
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  when I'm there. Neither do I. Are there any moments
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  or places, rather, that come to mind, Bree, that
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  we might know? Yeah, I mean, it isn't a place
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  that you guys have been, but the historical clubhouse...
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  In Houghton Lake. Like, for some reason, when
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  I went there as a kid, like, for one of their
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  Christmas, like, holiday things, when I got there,
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  I'm like, I've been here before. I've, like,
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  done this before. But I had never been there
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  before. I was also a kid. So, like, it's possible
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  I could have gone there when I was younger, but
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  just didn't realize it. But I don't know. Think
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  it could be, like, a past life thing? Do you
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  even believe in past lives? That's what I, like,
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  had thought. But, I don't know. I feel like that's
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  something for a different podcast episode. Oh,
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  definitely. People do think there's, like, an
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  overlap, though, with, like, Deja Vu being, like,
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  your lives. Or also, like, other dimensions overlapping.
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  Yeah. Or different timelines. I don't know how
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  that works, but... You do, though. It's kind
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  of like when you make your grilled cheese and
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  then it's melted. So the top layer blends with
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  the bottom layer. Yes. They're all combined into
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  one. It's all the cheese. It's all the different
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  levels of the apartments. Yeah. Have you guys...
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  This reminds me. Have you guys ever... like experience
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  the back rooms like that type of feeling because
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  i feel like that's like big honestly i can't
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  think of a place where i've experienced backroom
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  vibes yeah i mean yeah even even like though
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  i say yeah i've totally experienced the back
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  back rooms it was like a random offhand experience
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  when i was a very little kid and i thought like
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  i got lost in my church and i couldn't figure
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  out where to go like i could literally legitimately
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  not find a door and all i could find was a hallway
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  How big is your church? Not big. And then suddenly
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  my dad just appeared and was like, where were
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  you? But I'm talking about toddler age. I could
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  have just not seen the door. That would be still
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  kind of creepy. Yeah. Because I still go to the
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  same church and I cannot figure out where I was
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  lost. It was really hard to get lost there. You
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  were so small, you couldn't even see the door
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  handle or anything. I don't know. It was really
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  weird. Anyways. So, I have a question. Have either
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  of you ever experienced deja vu? I am right now.
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  because he just there you go you experienced
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  it first time ever that's not deja vu because
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  yeah you fabricated this yeah what not how it
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  works ben it's not how it works it's not how
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  it works maybe i mean you think like god fabricates
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  deja vu and others i'm just trying to play god
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  here You shouldn't play God. Can you hear all
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  the horror stories of people who say that you
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  play God or imitate God and then terrible shit
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  happens to them? Don't pull a Jurassic Park.
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  Yeah. No, no, no. I don't want to say that. That's
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  a topic for another day. Jurassic Park. Jurassic
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  Park. All the dino layers. The dino layers. Right
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  now, I think we're in the pterodactyl segment
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  of the episode. I'm always in the pterodactyl.
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  Pterodactyl? Yeah. Why did you add letters to
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  that? Pterodactyl? Oh my god. Let's just forget
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  I try to say that word. Okay, moving on. To a
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  different Jurassic player. Ben, you never answered
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  my question about the back rooms. Have you ever
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  experienced a back room moment? okay have you
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  angela no okay so you guys have experienced deja
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  vu but haven't experienced the back rooms i haven't
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  experienced deja vu but i possibly experienced
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  the back rooms yes i also love how my example
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  of like deja vu was like a haunted location which
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  kind of makes sense to have like weird feelings
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  and breeze like I don't see that at all. I've
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  only experienced these weird things in my local
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  clubhouse and my local church. Very normal places
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  I go all the time. Okay, I don't actually go
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  to the clubhouse all the time. Yeah, yeah. That's
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  also in a different town, like a ways away from
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  me. And is historic and is haunted, but that's
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  besides the point. The most spookiest things
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  that you have ever experienced were in your small
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  hometown. I wouldn't say that. Middle of nowhere.
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  In a random church. So I do have a question,
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  though. Have either of you ever experienced deja
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  vu? I swear to God, Ben. Stop it, Ben. Welcome
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  to our podcast, where we take deep dives looking
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  at various topics through a paranormal lens.
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  Stop it. Okay. I have a real question, though.
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  Have either of you ever experienced the Mandela
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  effect? I thought you were going to say deja
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  vu again, and I was actually going to leave.
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  Mandela effect, 100%. Oh, yeah, 100%. So we all,
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  I think, brought our favorite example that we're
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  going to share with each other. Yeah. Right?
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  Did we all do the assignment? I'm just gonna
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  go based off of whatever one you guys don't pick.
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  Okay. Let's see how many overlap. I like how,
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  too, just to note the irony here, the one time
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  we do a topic that's literally about remembering
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  things incorrectly, that's the one where Angela's
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  prepared and knows the topic. Yes. Good job,
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  Angela. Yeah. So what's your Mandela effect,
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  Ange? Me? Okay. So I'm going to say one that
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  I recently just learned. And I learned this one
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  through TikTok. You know, just scrolling through
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  TikTok and I found this one. And it was of South
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  America. And it kind of being in a different
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  spot on the map than what I remembered. So when
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  you're looking at, when you think of South America,
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  where is it on the map? I mean, it's kind of
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  like Southeast. if you were gonna if you said
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  south of america i was gonna i was gonna walk
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  it yeah you know i i know map so well the south
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  america yeah that's one of the southern of america
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  right yes well yes it is south it is south america
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  i'm talking about the continent of america but
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  it is like more of like south east okay so you
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  remember it how you re like how it is currently
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  yeah Okay. Ben, is that how you remember it?
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  I'm totally not looking this up. Oh my god. No,
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  tell me. I did see this TikTok that you're talking
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  about. Yeah, because I sent it to you guys. Yeah,
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  you did. But you go ahead and... Yeah, it's where
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  I remember it too. Okay, so I'm the only one
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  who doesn't remember it that way. Yes, I remember
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  it as being directly south. like right underneath
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  north america but could that just be because
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  of like map displacement because when you like
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  because when you take a flattened map like they
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  they just maps are very displaced that is true
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  that's true and so a lot of the like flat rectangular
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  maps will reflect it as being directly south
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  of America and that's I feel like the kind of
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  map that most like elementary and like primary
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  schools use but once you start getting older
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  they start getting more into the geographical
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  stuff and doing like the globe map where it shifts
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  and displaces it to its more accurate position.
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  It's kind of like saying that Greenland is huge,
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  but it actually is so tiny. You know, that makes
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  a lot of sense. So maybe what I'm remembering
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  is just like, what are you laughing about, Ben?
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  I never heard someone give a lecture about graduating
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  into using globes. It's like, when you get older,
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  they allow you to use rounder maps. Well, no,
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  that wasn't the point. Brianna, when Bri was
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  a toddler getting lost in the back rooms of her
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  church, she remembers the vivid excitement of
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  finally being able to look at a globe for the
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  first time. No, no, no, no. That's not what I
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  mean. Those stupid paper maps. No, but, like,
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  okay, so I'm looking at it right now. I'm looking
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  at, like, the maps. And... I remember it as like,
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  you know, Mexico is kind of like turning towards
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  the east a little bit, if you know what I mean.
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  Causing the rest of it being more towards the
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  east. But I remember Mexico being more like straight
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  down a little bit. So everything kind of falls
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  below. Like I'm looking at the map right now.
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  let me see here and like the most eastern part
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  of brazil i remember being like kind of more
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  underneath where florida is at not like way over
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  yeah the east you know i think the thing is too
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  is that um imaging And stuff has gotten, like,
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  a lot better, even just in the past 20 years
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  of what our planet looks like. So that has also
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  affected our maps and that sort of stuff. And
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  also, like, even if you look at, like, globe
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  maps from, like, late to early 1800s, they look
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  drastically different because... especially maps
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  that were made in England or Europe. The ones
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  that were handmade. They purposely sailed around
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  and drew as they went. Well, no, that's not even
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  the fact that I'm getting at. The European or
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  English inhabited countries or lands were...
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  drawn or designed to look bigger oh yeah yeah
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  like other countries ginormously big when in
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  reality it really isn't yes so a bunch of other
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  countries map distortion i feel like is it's
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  insane and like with all of the modern technology
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  we have now it has changed our maps a lot so
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  it's possible maybe like the maps that you had
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  in school were not very up to date i mean that
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  could very well be the fact yeah who knows you
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  know the one the why i like this one so much
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  is that there's so many different reasons that
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  could explain why i have this false memory right
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  now yeah yeah but i just remember i saw this
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  for the first time i'm like that is really whack
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  that is really really weird i don't know how
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  i feel about that Because I'm like, how do I,
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  like, I look at the map all the time because
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  I'm just curious. You know, I like to, like,
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  I don't know. I like to look up random places
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  and see what they're like and be like, oh, I
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  want to visit this place someday when I'm older.
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  So when did you do that on Google Earth? I do
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  that on Google Earth or anytime I look at the
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  map. When did you graduate? Because we know when
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  you graduate to a globe, when do you graduate
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  in life to Google Earth? I guess whenever I got
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  a phone. Okay, okay. Specifically a smartphone,
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  not a flip phone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So
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  this would be specifically 2015. I did, I did.
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  My first ever phone was an iPhone, so I never
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  had a flip phone or anything. Okay, yeah, I figured.
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  I'm sorry, that sounded like an insult. No, no,
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  you're fine. I didn't get a phone until I was
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  15. Yeah, I also had my first phone was a flip
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  phone, but it was a sideways flip phone. So it
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  was super cool. But also I didn't get an actual
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  like. smartphone or an iphone until a month before
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  i went to college so i was way behind with all
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  like all of my friends had like snapchat and
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  like group chats and all that stuff and i'd like
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  get put in a group chat and i'd be like take
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  me out of this immediately because i cannot do
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  this i mean i still hate group chats and i'm
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  also i'm still terrible at like digital keypads
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  like i i'm terrible typing because the flip phones
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  were like real you know real buttons yeah i can't
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  and mine was a sideways flip phone so i had a
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  full keyboard too so that was nice i love it
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  i actually still have my phone somewhere i think
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  it's in my drawer i'll be in the museum someday
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  yeah anyways anyways can i what go ahead okay
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  no no no i'm gonna let you guys sorry that was
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  like so harsh i'm like what i have i have other
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  examples but i want you guys to say them if that's
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  your example how about you you go ben what's
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  uh what's what's the mandela effect that you
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  brought to the table today yeah i'm actually
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  seeking um seeking clarity clarity as well as
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  potential um uh psychological help and therapy
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  if depending on the answer here so i don't know
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  like i know this is a mandela effect thing but
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  i don't know which answer is actually real and
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  which is like what it says so does the monopoly
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  man have a monocle or not because i actually
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  don't know he does not okay so he doesn't and
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  the only reason why i know he doesn't is because
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  I've seen this as an example and know the answer.
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  Yeah. That's the only reason I know it either.
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  I've always seen him as having a monocle. Same.
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  I've always seen him as having one of those eye
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  thingies. Monocle. We said it five times already.
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  I don't like that word. Why? It's just weird.
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  It looks weird. It sounds weird. It's mono is
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  singular. I don't like it. I still don't like
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  it. It's not a me word. Okay. Pop off, I guess.
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  Yeah. Ben, what about... Wait, you already answered.
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  Deja. So, my Mandela effect. So, does the Monopoly
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  man have a monocle or not? Are we going to answer
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  this again? I mean, she wanted me to go. And
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  I only brought I did bring a joke one. Do you
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  want to hear my joke? Yes. What's your joke one?
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  Yes. So believe it or not, the film we made was
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  called Possession Tape. No S, even though we
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  always refer to it as Possession Tapes every
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  time we record. Oh, seriously? Oh, my God. Oh,
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  that's hilarious. There's no S in there because
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  there's only one singular. It's one tape. One
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  possession. Sounds better. What's an S? That's
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  hilarious. There's no S. That's actually so funny.
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  Anywhere in the film, like the title and the
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  voiceover, there's no. But ever since we made,
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  we put it out and stuff. We've referred to it
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  as possession tapes. Yeah. An S. So someone out
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  there is thinking there's another one. Oh, that's
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  hilarious, actually. That's hilarious. That's
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  really funny. I didn't even have to play God
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  to do that one. It just happened. I didn't fabricate
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  any of that. Who'd have thunk? Not us, obviously.
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  You did. I fell for it, too. How did you figure
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  this out? Did you just like look at it one day
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  and you're like, oh yeah, it doesn't have an
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  S on it. Yeah, like yesterday, actually. Yesterday.
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  And I was like, that's fitting. This is Mandela
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  effect. Yeah. The Mandela tape. But Ben, you
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  never answered about the Monopoly guy. Did you
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  always see him with one or without one? No, he
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  totally has one. I don't know if they're saying
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  that he does or doesn't. So that's the thing.
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  With the Mandela Effect, he never has had a monocle.
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  That's really not accurate. Because here's the
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  thing. With the Mandela Effect, once they enter
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  pop culture, now there's all sorts of images
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  that people make with the monocle. So it's like
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  you can't tell. And I bet if you like... chat
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  GPT, create me an image of this. Some of the
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  reference images are probably going to have a
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  monocle. You can't tell anymore. So here's the
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  thing with going off that kind of goes in because
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  I didn't pick one specific one. Like I said,
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  I was going to go based off of what you guys
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  said. It has a lot to do with marketing and how
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  marketing has changed. I'm sure. there probably
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  are varieties out there with a monocle do you
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  think but i think it's probably like super old
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  and like has shifted over time it's like the
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  fruit of the loom one because everyone remembers
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  fruit of the loom having a cornucopia fruit of
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  the loom claims there has never been a cornucopia
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  i believe there was like i i saw a thing a long
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  time ago where Someone had done the deep dive
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  research and found, like, actual proof that it
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  had had a cornucopia at one point. But I believe
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  Fruit of the Loom, like, either sold out or was
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  going out of business or something, and they
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  had to, like, remarket. So they kind of erased
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  the cornucopia from their imaging to remarket
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  it as... Essentially the same product, something
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  that's still going to be recognized, but it's
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  a different logo. Okay. So are they saying that
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  the original Fruit of the Loom brand had one
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  of them? Yes. But when they rebranded, they took
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  it out. Yes. So, okay. Because I remember, yeah.
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  Everyone remembers it having a cornucopia. So
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  why, it's like, yeah. But why would they say
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  that they never had one then? I don't know. like
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  that doesn't make sense but i've also seen videos
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  of people doing deep dives and looking at their
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  old clothing and they finding clothes was one
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  of them on them still yeah yeah that's what i'm
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  saying i believe i believe what happened was
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  like they rebranded remarketed and like with
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  marketing you have to like change the logo and
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  design like just like so it's not the same because
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  that that is I don't know. I don't know how that
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  stuff works. So they had to change it. Basically,
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  Fruit of the Loom is just gaslighting us. Yes,
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  100%. Those fuckers. But also, I 100 % might
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  be talking out of my ass and don't know anything
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  about this. So if someone knows something, please
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  correct me because I did not do any research.
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  This is the equivalent of Brianna. like seeing
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  someone on the on the side of the street they're
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  like oh my god you're that girl from uh afterlife
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  road then brain says what afterlife road i what
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  are you talking about we've never been called
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  afterlife road it's always been crossroads of
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  curiosities always since forever yeah And then
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  they say, but I'm a November fan. And you go,
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  oh, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I thought you
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  were a December. You know what's really sad about
• 26:22
  the movie Groundhog Day? What? Every day he wakes
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  up, it's February. He can never get to be a November
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  fan. That's so sad. But no, legitimately, there
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  are so many Mandela effects that just make me
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  mad. Because, like, what's another example? Oh,
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  Berenstain Bears versus Berenstain Bears. Like,
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  the E versus the A. I really couldn't tell you.
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  I could not tell you. I grew up reading the Berenstain
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  Bears. It is an E. I swear to God. Or, um, Looney
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  Tunes. I just saw this one. Yeah, it's supposedly
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  spelled with a U and not a double O. Excuse me?
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  Okay, so this is... Same with, like, Fruit Loops.
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  Okay, but I remember it with a U. Okay, but Fruit
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  Loops... I asked someone earlier today, like,
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  what's the one that makes them the most mad?
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  And they're like, this doesn't make me the most
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  mad. Like, this is the most obvious one, but,
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  like... It's always been spelled with two O's.
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  I think it's always been spelled with two O's.
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  Like, and that's how everyone... Nobody thinks
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  it that way. I never really, like, ate... What
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  are they called? Fruit loops? Fruit loops, yes.
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  I didn't really ever eat them before as a kid.
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  I like how your screen, your video, started glitching
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  out, like, mirroring your brain. brain farting.
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  You're glitching out. No, it's all you. It's
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  all you, man. Well, you are currently right now,
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  too. Nope. Nope. It's you. It's you. Oh, it's
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  definitely you, Angela. Oh, it's both of you,
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  actually. It's Ben, too, right now. Ben, too?
• 28:20
  Who invited the other one? I would say Ben, too.
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  Internet's going whack. Okay, but... So the episode
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  about weird memory glitches is resulting in real
• 28:33
  life glitches. Real life glitches. Oh, another
• 28:36
  one that makes me mad is Jiffy versus Jiff peanut
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  butter. It's Jiffy. Yeah, be hearing a Jiffy,
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  you know? Okay, do you know what's weird about
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  this one? I saw someone like... Someone's like,
• 28:53
  oh, people are just mixing up their competitor,
• 28:55
  Skippy. It's like, no. I've never heard of Skippy.
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  I remember a different logo. Peter Pan, I've
• 29:03
  heard of Peter Pan. The Jiffy has always had
• 29:05
  the red and blue and green sometimes, like logo.
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  And Skippy is blue. The weird thing about me,
• 29:18
  I didn't grow up eating peanut butter because
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  my sister was highly allergic to peanuts so all
• 29:23
  that type of stuff was out so we ate like soy
• 29:26
  nut butter or whatever um so we never had peanut
• 29:29
  butter in our house so i don't exactly remember
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  but i remember always saying jiffy peanut butter
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  when i was like with like my friends or at my
• 29:38
  grandparents who had it around or something like
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  that but then when i look at the package of it
• 29:44
  i recognize it as being just jiff But that's
• 29:50
  probably because I never had it around me until
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  like teenager years. Like I said, the saying
• 29:58
  is in a jiffy. People don't know. I want to talk
• 30:03
  about what your guys' theories are for the Mandela
• 30:07
  Effect. I feel like I kind of already went into
• 30:10
  that with the marketing thing. She mapped it
• 30:13
  out for us, literally. That makes sense for some
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  of them. For a lot of them, it does. My theory
• 30:21
  is that it's a combination of things, especially
• 30:29
  pre -internet changed. And then a lot of these
• 30:34
  things are childhood things like cereals we ate,
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  books we read as kids, games we played as kids.
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  As our brains develop. and we get smarter, and
• 30:46
  we graduate to using circular things, as well
• 30:53
  as digital things eventually. I think we just,
• 30:57
  you know, our brains change, and I don't even,
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  I can't begin to explain what happens chemically
• 31:03
  up there, but I think we just remember childhood
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  things, or we're just kind of stupid. The only
• 31:09
  Mandela effect that kind of is wild to me is,
• 31:14
  you know, mandela itself because that one i don't
• 31:18
  understand because everyone including myself
• 31:22
  remembers being taught that mandela died in prison
• 31:27
  and then it's like oh he's alive and well and
• 31:29
  it's like hold up you passed away in prison well
• 31:33
  yeah my parents think he passed away in prison
• 31:36
  too both my parents do yeah like so that's that's
• 31:42
  the one thing that's like How do we all remember
• 31:46
  this person passing away? And this isn't something
• 31:50
  that, like, you can make up. I don't know. Like.
• 31:57
  Yeah. It's weird. It's wild. Yeah, that one.
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  So. I don't know. Because that's like a living
• 32:02
  person. Do you know how people are always like,
• 32:06
  just believe? that the government is just doing
• 32:11
  a big experiment in gaslighting us about all
• 32:14
  these Mandela effects. The government isn't doing
• 32:17
  a big gaslighting. They don't have Operation
• 32:20
  Fruit Loops in the government. No, no, I know,
• 32:24
  I know. But I'm just saying, like, if that excuse,
• 32:29
  like, reasoning is the only one I could probably
• 32:33
  explain for the actual Mandela guy, but all the
• 32:37
  other ones, like the um marketing and stuff makes
• 32:42
  sense i always like the uh the theory of that
• 32:49
  we died are in a different universe now or something
• 32:52
  where we switch universes and we're just seeing
• 32:55
  different like different We shifted timelines.
• 33:00
  Like in the Marvel universe. Yeah, multiple different
• 33:04
  universes or whatever. I love that one. That
• 33:07
  one is so fun to think about. I don't like that.
• 33:10
  I don't like it. You don't think, even for a
• 33:14
  second, Angela, we're just stupider than we give
• 33:16
  ourselves credit for and maybe we just misremember
• 33:19
  things? Oh, I'm not saying that's... Like, real.
• 33:23
  I'm not saying I personally believe that. I think
• 33:26
  that one's fun, and I like to think about it
• 33:28
  as if it is real. It doesn't fill you with existential
• 33:31
  dread. Oh, I have a question. Yeah? Have you
• 33:42
  guys ever experienced deja vu? Oh, God. Yes,
• 33:46
  and here's the thing. This is going to be the
• 33:48
  end of me. I've already had this conversation
• 33:50
  with you guys. every day for the past year it's
• 33:56
  been every i keep waking up and i keep having
• 33:59
  this talk with you i know exactly how it's going
• 34:01
  to end and none of the times that we have this
• 34:04
  conversation none of the times do we ever figure
• 34:08
  out whatever truly happened to nelson mandela
• 34:12
  i don't think we're ever gonna know no Especially
• 34:20
  because I didn't do research. You said that yesterday
• 34:25
  when we recorded this. Am I the only one caught
• 34:30
  in this time loop? Yep. that's the only example
• 34:34
  where i can say the government is gaslighting
• 34:37
  us or every single person you said that yesterday
• 34:39
  every single person in this universe died and
• 34:43
  we're now in a different universe or retouched
• 34:45
  based into a different like multiverse or whatever
• 34:49
  the fuck you want to call it dimension i don't
• 34:51
  know that might be a case maybe we all died and
• 34:54
  now we're just I'm experiencing deja vu again.
• 34:58
  There's hope for my future. I might be able to
• 35:03
  break free of this time loop because this is
• 35:04
  the first time in today, which has been every
• 35:08
  day for me. This is the first time that Angela
• 35:11
  has shushed me having this conversation. So I
• 35:15
  might finally break out of it if small things
• 35:19
  begin like dominoes, like the domino effect.
• 35:23
  If one small thing changes, because this is a
• 35:27
  new part of the conversation too. We didn't have
• 35:29
  this yesterday. So how is the domino effect different
• 35:34
  than the Mandela effect different than the butterfly
• 35:36
  effect? They're all the same. I don't have answers.
• 35:46
  All the same. All the same. Everything is the
• 35:52
  same. They're all in the layers of cheese. We
• 35:58
  are all atoms. Does that mean we're all the same?
• 36:05
  We're the same thing? I can feel my body. It's
• 36:10
  going into tomorrow! This is so stupid. You're
• 36:18
  such an idiot. I can never pass as God. Come
• 36:23
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• 36:29
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• 36:32
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• 36:43
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