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Zack Moss on the Utes ranked in the preseason AP Poll, How position battles on the OL affect a top tier RB + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: He's not.
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  Speaker 2: Sean O'Connell show, you were home of the best inside
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  Speaker 2: one af am stily f.
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  Speaker 3: Well, welcome back to the Shot O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 4: Our number three begins with the legendary Utah running back
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  Speaker 4: the twenty nineteen PAC twelve Offensive Player of the Year,
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  Speaker 4: Zach Moss on the program, Zach, welcome back.
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  Speaker 3: How are you, sir?
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  Speaker 1: Doing well? Man? How you guys going doing all right?
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  Speaker 4: We were joking earlier on the show about all this
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  Speaker 4: stuff with jayde Daniels and his number at LSU and
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  Speaker 4: them being mad that he's not it's not retired and
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  Speaker 4: there's another player.
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  Speaker 3: Using it now.
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  Speaker 4: How crazy were you about the number two when you
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  Speaker 4: were college athlete?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 3: How how important was your number to you?
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  Speaker 1: I think it was important, you know, obviously he has
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  Speaker 1: a different relationship with that number when you talk about
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  Speaker 1: winning the Heisman and things of that nature. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's important because that's the number. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of people remember you, ye, but sometimes you try to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, be a bigger than that number. And I
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  Speaker 1: think at the end of the day, he's still bigger
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  Speaker 1: in the number. But like I said, I think the
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  Speaker 1: main thing is, you know, it being connected to him
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  Speaker 1: being the third heis and whenever at that program, so
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  Speaker 1: it's a little different.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, I was just looking at it. I was
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  Speaker 4: about to ask you who you ever shared that number
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  Speaker 4: with on the Utah roster, because when you're in the
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  Speaker 4: single digits, you you know this better than I. When
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  Speaker 4: you're in the single digits, there's always a defensive player
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  Speaker 4: who wants to wear that number two.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. When I think defensively, I think feel
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  Speaker 1: on one of our safety ward number one of the
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  Speaker 1: decent side of the ball when I was there.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm looking at the twenty eighteen roster, Philip a
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  Speaker 4: Fia number two six one two oh one.
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  Speaker 3: Not not quite. Here's the problem.
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  Speaker 4: If you're if you're gonna be the guy who wears
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  Speaker 4: the same number as one of your teammates, and that
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  Speaker 4: teammate is Zach Moss, that's tough because then you're not
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  Speaker 4: the best number two on the roster.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's a hard thing. If you're the defensive guy wearing.
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  Speaker 1: That, right, I mean I could agree to some.
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  Speaker 4: All right, I was asking a question also of the
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  Speaker 4: Utah fans this year or for this for today going
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  Speaker 4: into this year, you know, we have we know what
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  Speaker 4: all the questions are around this team. Offensive line, who's
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  Speaker 4: it going to be, defensive line, who's it going to be.
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  Speaker 4: You know, who's gonna be your leading receiver?
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  Speaker 3: That kind of thing.
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  Speaker 4: Is there something that you're just certain will be the
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  Speaker 4: case for Utah football? Like, like for me, I said,
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  Speaker 4: here's one thing I don't have a question about. I
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  Speaker 4: know that one difference we will see with Utah football
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  Speaker 4: this year is more guys, like a higher number of
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  Speaker 4: guys are going to score touchdowns for this team. You're
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  Speaker 4: not as limited in the number of weapons you have
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  Speaker 4: on this team. I think there's going to be better
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  Speaker 4: ball distribution. I think there's going to be more guys
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  Speaker 4: who get into the end zone for you. I could
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  Speaker 4: be wrong about it, but it's one thing that I
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  Speaker 4: don't ask a question I think that will be the case.
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  Speaker 4: Is there something with all these changes that you're not
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  Speaker 4: questioning that Zach Moss is like, this will be better
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  Speaker 4: than it was last year.
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  Speaker 1: I thinknously. I would have to take the same approach
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  Speaker 1: as you you know, I think from everything I've seen
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  Speaker 1: in heard so far about this team is you know,
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  Speaker 1: everybody's just been harping on to death the death chart
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  Speaker 1: and how much talent these guys have. You know, how
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  Speaker 1: many guys they have that could you know, be the
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  Speaker 1: star right, Uh, that's maybe on the depth chart at
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  Speaker 1: the three or the fourth spot. So I think that's
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  Speaker 1: the main thing is, you know, I think that's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be something that we definitely see where these guys, It's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of different people, you know, having
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  Speaker 1: big games. You know, it's not gonna be one specific person.
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  Speaker 1: I think obviously Dan Pierre and Ficklin and Parker will
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  Speaker 1: be you know, obviously the main three guys that are
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  Speaker 1: going to be doing most of the damage, which hope, right,
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  Speaker 1: But I think it's gonna be a ton of guys
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  Speaker 1: that's doing a lot of different things. That's on the
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  Speaker 1: offense side of the ball, special teams, defense side of
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  Speaker 1: the ball. Because this is a younger team on the
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  Speaker 1: defenside of the ball, so you know, they're going to
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  Speaker 1: ask a lot of guys to show up and be dominant,
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  Speaker 1: which I think this team can do. So it'd be
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  Speaker 1: interesting to see for sure.
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  Speaker 4: What was your relationship as a player, you know, college NFL,
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  Speaker 4: when as a running back, you know, you get whatever
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  Speaker 4: seven carries during the series, you marched eighty yards down
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  Speaker 4: the field and then in that red zone you got
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  Speaker 4: six more yards to go and your number is not called.
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  Speaker 4: The touchdown is given to somebody else. It's a different play.
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  Speaker 4: Or maybe you know you're huffing and puffing because you've
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  Speaker 4: been carrying a little the whole way down and then
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  Speaker 4: somebody else comes in and gets that carry. Like It's
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  Speaker 4: not like you were short for touchdowns. You got to
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  Speaker 4: score them all the time. But what was that feeling like?
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  Speaker 4: Was it ever something that actually bothered you?
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  Speaker 1: I think from the competitive standpoint, I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: use the word bothered, but I think from the competitive standpoint,
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  Speaker 1: you do want every single carry, you want every single
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  Speaker 1: yard you want. You know, you put out the work,
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  Speaker 1: you put in, you know, in the off season and
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  Speaker 1: during the week to get ready for those opportunities. You know.
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  Speaker 1: So I've had definitely games where you know, maybe I've
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  Speaker 1: ran the ball, you know, six times on a nine
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  Speaker 1: play drive and you know I'm accounting for her pretty
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  Speaker 1: much all the yard is here and then we have
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  Speaker 1: a play action to the tight end and they still
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  Speaker 1: a touchdown. But you know, from the competitive aspect of it, yes, right,
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  Speaker 1: you want you want to be the guy that's doing
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  Speaker 1: it all. But as a team, you know, the main
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  Speaker 1: thing is to outscore to your point and win the game.
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  Speaker 1: So the more we can do that, the more different
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  Speaker 1: guys can be a threat. That only helps, you know,
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  Speaker 1: especially a running back, right because if you have a
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  Speaker 1: quarterback that's a threat in the red zone with its
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  Speaker 1: legs that we do have got two of them, so
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  Speaker 1: that's gonna be fun for a Parker. And then you know,
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  Speaker 1: now it's about the receivers. They can take the top
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  Speaker 1: off and be deep threats. That only allows these guys
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  Speaker 1: who are able to run the ball Parker fake Glyn
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  Speaker 1: Dan Pier. It only gives them even more space. And
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  Speaker 1: if you can play football with a lot of space,
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  Speaker 1: and these guys got to honor you to top down,
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  Speaker 1: it's a beautiful thing.
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  Speaker 4: So, yeah, how should this team? How should the fans
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  Speaker 4: be viewing these preseason polls? This is now the coach's poll,
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  Speaker 4: the AP pole saying like, hey, this is a top
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  Speaker 4: twenty five team ranked number twenty one in the AP
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  Speaker 4: pole today. As a player, obviously, you know the ranking
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  Speaker 4: is a nice little nod. It's a little bit of respect.
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  Speaker 4: Doesn't help you win any football games. For fans, I
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  Speaker 4: think it's encouraging that you get to start there, even
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  Speaker 4: with all the changes, new head coach and everything, because
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  Speaker 4: it's hard to climb back into the rankings if people
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  Speaker 4: don't have expectations of you before the season. We know
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  Speaker 4: what the schedule looks like, so you know, how do
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  Speaker 4: you look at whether you'd a ranked twenty one in
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  Speaker 4: these preseason polls.
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  Speaker 1: I think, you know, that's pretty respectable considering like you said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, obviously the changing, the coaching change, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the tired new offensive scheme, things of that nature. So
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  Speaker 1: being twenty first, I believe is what it is. Being
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  Speaker 1: twenty first, coming in early with all those changes, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's a lot of role for growth. So the fantas
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  Speaker 1: should be very excited. Likes you said, the players you're
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  Speaker 1: not really too worried about it, but still it's a
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  Speaker 1: little salty when you come in at twenty one, regardless
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  Speaker 1: of you know, what the changes made been, whatever like that,
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  Speaker 1: but you know it'd be the players would be ready
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  Speaker 1: to go for that. The fans, it's always nice. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you got a team that you can watch that you
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  Speaker 1: know is kind of going to be good. In the
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  Speaker 1: country is also seeing the same things as well.
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  Speaker 4: We were talking about a story earlier today. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if you saw this. Ohio State is moving their
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  Speaker 4: Senior Day to Week one because Ryan Day, their head coach,
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  Speaker 4: does not want it to be a distraction to do
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  Speaker 4: the whole like walk your with your family out on
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  Speaker 4: the field and have the cousins there and the parents
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  Speaker 4: and the siblings and all that on the same week
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  Speaker 4: that they're playing against Michigan. Now, I don't know why
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  Speaker 4: the timing is now, why he's doing this, He's already
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  Speaker 4: won a national championship at the house, he's already been
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  Speaker 4: the head coach there for a while, and they've always
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  Speaker 4: done it the same way every other team in the
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  Speaker 4: country does it. Where your final home game is Senior Day.
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  Speaker 4: It's the last chance for the Zach Mosses of the
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  Speaker 4: world to walk out there onto the field at rice
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  Speaker 4: Eco Stadium. You get the flower lay, you get the
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  Speaker 4: standing ovation, you get that recognition. They're moving all of
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  Speaker 4: that off the final week. The rivalry game, and they're
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  Speaker 4: putting that in Week one because he doesn't want it
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  Speaker 4: to be a distraction.
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  Speaker 3: So first part of a two part question.
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  Speaker 4: Here, was senior day a distraction at all for you?
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  Speaker 1: No, it wasn't a distraction. I think the main thing
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  Speaker 1: is that, you know, is you got a football game
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  Speaker 1: that day. So I think the players understand that. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, I mean obviously my seeing dad believe we
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  Speaker 1: played Colorado, so that's a different film as well versus
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  Speaker 1: getting ready for that type of rivaly game, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and it's not a big deal. It's it kind of
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  Speaker 1: kind of funky and weird that he moved into a
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  Speaker 1: Week one you know, maybe you know, coach the second
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  Speaker 1: game that's almost at the end there or something like
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  Speaker 1: that makes a little bit more sense. So that way
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  Speaker 1: you can try to keep that feel as much as
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  Speaker 1: you can. But you know, I think another part is
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  Speaker 1: the players have to be on board with that, right,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they've worked the tail all for a senior year, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that type of stuff, and move it to
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  Speaker 1: week one versus you know, who knows where they're gonna play.
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  Speaker 1: It's not gonna be that type of opponent, right most likely,
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  Speaker 1: So the players have to be on board, So that
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  Speaker 1: says a lot about the player's mindset and what they
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  Speaker 1: also think about that game as well. Well.
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  Speaker 4: That was gonna be the second part of the question,
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  Speaker 4: like would you feel a little bit cheated? Is now
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  Speaker 4: it's ball State Week one? Right, it's gonna be like
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  Speaker 4: it's gonna be ninety degrees. You're playing against a MAC
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  Speaker 4: team instead of your historic rival or even another Big
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  Speaker 4: ten team. You could do it two weeks before against Northwestern, Right,
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  Speaker 4: that's a winnable game, that's your second last home game.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever.
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  Speaker 4: Would you feel a little bit cheated as a player
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  Speaker 4: in this scenario that it's happening week.
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  Speaker 1: One A little bit? A little bit? Just like I said,
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  Speaker 1: just because it's week one, you know, it doesn't really
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  Speaker 1: fail like a senior anything. You know, you're kind of
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  Speaker 1: just trying to knock, you know, the weaves off a
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  Speaker 1: little bit and you're throwing you know, that whole entire feelings, emotion,
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  Speaker 1: all that something until a week one, which it's hard
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  Speaker 1: to do because it's not essentially going to be changuin
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  Speaker 1: because you know that they know it's like their last game, right,
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  Speaker 1: So from that standpoint, I would have liked it to be,
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe game five six something where it's in
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  Speaker 1: the middle. You kind of can get things going from
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  Speaker 1: that standpoint. But like I said, that just says a
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  Speaker 1: lot about the players as well that he can even
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  Speaker 1: you know, they can think about that as a staff
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  Speaker 1: and come to the players, and the players agree about it,
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  Speaker 1: because you know, obviously I've played with a lot of
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  Speaker 1: guys that played that Michigan. They know how I stayed
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  Speaker 1: in the last thing you will to do is lose
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  Speaker 1: that game, especially if you're a scene.
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  Speaker 4: How many position battles were happening on the offensive line
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  Speaker 4: when in your NFL career and in your Utah football career,
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  Speaker 4: how many you know, as you're heading going into like
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  Speaker 4: game prep, rounding out of camp and you're going into
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  Speaker 4: install and things like that, how many times did you,
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  Speaker 4: as a running back, question who the starting five in
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  Speaker 4: front of you.
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  Speaker 3: Were going to be?
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  Speaker 1: Probably one time I actually ever questioned it. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I think especially on the pro level, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: believe without a doubt that the coaches are going to
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  Speaker 1: put the best guys out in front of you, regardless,
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  Speaker 1: and that the guys that get that call, like you know,
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  Speaker 1: their professionals. They're playing for you know, families and different
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  Speaker 1: things in that nature, so you know they're going to
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  Speaker 1: play their tails off when they get the opportunity. So
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  Speaker 1: college was the first time I probably ever was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: who are the guys that's going to play with? You
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  Speaker 1: know things that That was twenty seventeen, my first year
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  Speaker 1: starting where obviously you know, all that is brand new
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  Speaker 1: to yourself, and that's what you've got to be able to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, learn the players, learn the guys that's blocking
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  Speaker 1: the front of you, be able to communicate with them,
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  Speaker 1: because that's the biggest thing. You know, the coaches can
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  Speaker 1: tell them a lot of different stuff as well, but
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  Speaker 1: when you're the guy out there running the ball, and
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  Speaker 1: obviously you know, no plays ever ran and drolling up
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  Speaker 1: exactly how it is on the paper. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: if I need office alignment to move a little faster
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  Speaker 1: even though his coach wants him to hang on the
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  Speaker 1: block a little bit longer than whatever it may be,
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  Speaker 1: because you know of my poy style, right, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that communication, that togetherness, all that stuff matters. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: that was the first time twenty seventeen and where I
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  Speaker 1: had to really kind of learn all that stuff and
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  Speaker 1: then you know, after that you come of everybody kind
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  Speaker 1: of gets it.
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  Speaker 3: How much nuance is there to it?
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  Speaker 4: Zach, did you ever a job your like running style,
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  Speaker 4: how fast you hit the hole or whatever based on
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  Speaker 4: who those blockers were, or is it on them to
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  Speaker 4: adjust their block to you?
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  Speaker 3: How does that relationship work?
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  Speaker 1: Uh? You got to be adaptable, you know, that goes
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  Speaker 1: for you. You know, obviously, the running back hand off
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  Speaker 1: is the line. You know sometimes if you're running a pool,
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  Speaker 1: play track, play whatever it may be. And you got
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  Speaker 1: a you know, a guy who's not ass agile doing that,
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  Speaker 1: but he's our best puller, right, you got to be
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  Speaker 1: able to work with him and be able to set
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  Speaker 1: him up and put him in the best positions, you know. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: officive lineman uh, And I've played with some very athletic
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  Speaker 1: guys before, but in the day, you know, they're not
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  Speaker 1: really the most athletic humans at that size.
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  Speaker 4: So you've got to be able to Every offensive lineman
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  Speaker 4: listening right now is hating on that statement, because the
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  Speaker 4: one thing about everybody who plays every position, no matter
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  Speaker 4: how big or small they are, they think they're the
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  Speaker 4: best athletes on the field.
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  Speaker 3: Offensive linemen are like, yeah, we're athletic.
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  Speaker 4: If we're three hundred and twenty pounds, it's easy to
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  Speaker 4: move when you're two twenty.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like they are athletic, right. But I think
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  Speaker 1: the main thing is, you know, you being able to
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  Speaker 1: understand your linemen and they understand what you want to
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  Speaker 1: do as well. So that's the main thing as a back.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, we always talk about delivering the blocks
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  Speaker 1: to the lineman right, allowing setting up the blocks right,
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  Speaker 1: being able to paint the picture for the office of linemen,
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  Speaker 1: and putting the line back and manipulating the game a
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  Speaker 1: little bit with your moving, your eyes, your footwork show
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  Speaker 1: to pass whatever it may be, and putting the linemen
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  Speaker 1: in the best position to make that block, especially when
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  Speaker 1: you're talking about putting it in space. That's the main thing.
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  Speaker 1: That's where the best running backs are able to go
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  Speaker 1: get those those exupposed to play over and over and
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  Speaker 1: over to some degree pretty consistently.
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  Speaker 4: How much of therunning back position, your ability to navigate
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  Speaker 4: through traffic is really instinct versus you know, coachable stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Because when we watch guys like you, when we watch
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  Speaker 4: the great ones at the college level, at the pro level,
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  Speaker 4: or whatever. Right, they know, they know when to hit
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  Speaker 4: the hole, they know when to stutter their feet, they
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  Speaker 4: know that. You know that change of pace has to
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  Speaker 4: happen at a certain point. And it feels like to me,
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  Speaker 4: who never really played the running back position at a
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  Speaker 4: high level, it feels like it's something that no matter
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  Speaker 4: how much film study you do, it's unpredictable, especially at
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  Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage, so you have to operate on feel. Maybe,
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  Speaker 4: but I'm asking you the question, like I don't want
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  Speaker 4: to put words in your mouth. How much of it
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  Speaker 4: is instinct and how much of it is like, all right,
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  Speaker 4: I know that the stutter step has to happen right here.
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  Speaker 4: I know that there's likely backside pursuit, so I can't
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  Speaker 4: cut this one.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: Back or whatever.
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: Is it a field based position more than most.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: I would say, yes, you know, I've always played this
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: position predominantly out of field. You know. That's where you know,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: once you start talking about adding the film study, adding
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: the footwork, adding all those different things, if you have
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: the instincts, if you have the feel, you know you
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: only enhance all those things once you add feel to it.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: And you understand, okay, on this blocking of what's our
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: blocking assignment on this inside zone run? Are we getting
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: combo blocks? Are we getting you know, two a's here,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: two b's whatever it may be? Add A three I
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: four I A three tech right, all these different types
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: of little uh communication things. Right, Once you start understanding
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: that part of the game, and then you're talking about
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: having elite reaction skills and feel to the game, then
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: it's almost to where you don't feel like you can
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: do any wrong. And that's where you start to see
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: a lot of guys just be able to play right.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: The game has slowed down for you know, Like I said,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: like my sophomore year, I played predominantly out of out
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: of field and reaction and just instinct, right, just being
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: a pretty decent natural. That's what I played out of
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: until you know, I got into the film room. I
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: started seeing why I can get better at, you know,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: things that didn't allow me to have any wasted movement,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: you know, and that's the things where when you're back,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: those are the things you should measure to side to
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: kind of see where you actually are. And once you
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: kind of can see that, you can start adding to
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: your game. And you know, that's one thing I saw
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: this past season with Parker. You know, I mean that
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: line was magnificent, so it wasn't a lot of reaction
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: and different things that he needed to be able to
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: see and feel. But I think that would be a
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: challenge to some degree when you're talking about having five
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: new office a linement. I don't really care how who
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: the five linemen are. They could be the five Pro Bowl,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: five Hall of Famers. You know, that's a different thing.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Is gonna have some challenges when you lose a type
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: of office line that was as seasoned as those guys
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: last season.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: What's harder to deal with.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: You're in and a play breaks down and you know
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: it's a one yard loss or you're out. You're on
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: the sideline, you're watching the play unfold, and that breakdown happens.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: You watch somebody else not hit the right hole, You
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: watch somebody else not follow the right blocker, and you
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: know that if you had been in there, or you
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: feel like if you had been in there, that play
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: doesn't break down, which is harder to deal with.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: You know, I think I would have to say not
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: being in there and you know, the play not happening
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: the way you feel like you may have been able
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: to make that play work. I've been in that situation
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: before where you know, we were in my last year
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. We had a game first Houston in the
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: week eighteen to go to the playoffs. You know, even
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: team whoever wins, you know, they gotta they got a
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: date they're in. And we came down to a fourth
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: and two or something like that. And you know, I
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: had been running this play all year, but I wasn't
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: fully healthy, Uh to you know, go out there and
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: you know, solidify that play. So we put a put
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: a younger guy in to go in out there, and
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: uh he had to drop on a on a pass
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: wide opened and you know, part of you is like,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: you know, man, I would have made that play and
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: you know, the whole nine and things of that nature. Uh,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: and then you just hear the stadium erupted, and then
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: the other side of he was like, well, I'm kind
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: of happy that I'm not out there on that play
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: at the moment, because if I dropped that ball, man,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: you know, it would have been a day Indianapolis for sure.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: But you know, I think definitely being out and not
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: being able to help your team. Like I said, everything
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: comes down to that competitive that competitive edge, right and everything.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: That's where the great football players, any guy, any person
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: in sports, right, that competitive drive is what is what
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: pushes you everywhere.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: I want to switch gears and ask you an NFL
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: question here, because you know, preseason games happening right now,
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: and in these preseason games, we see a lot of
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: guys that are bubble guys. Maybe we don't see them
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: in the pros this year, maybe if we do their
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: special teams level guys, there's a couple of utes, former
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: utes that fit into that category.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: And you know, like you were drafted in a position
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: where I correct me if I'm wrong, but you kind
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: of knew you were gonna make the roster. But walk
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: me through what it's like this time of year for
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: young players coming into the league, young players trying to
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: prove themselves.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: And you know, we're watching some of their performances in
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: these preseason games. We're getting some access to practice where
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: guys are making plays and things like that. But just
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: take me through the mental weight of either achieving the
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: dream making the roster, being an NFL football player, or
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: you know, even if you're a great player, it just
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: doesn't work out for you because it's the most competitive
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: industry in the world.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: What's it like right now for young players in the league.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's definitely tough. You know, every single
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: guy that walks into that league, no matter if you're first,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: you know, third, fifth, undrafted guy, right, it is totally
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: different for each guy on you know, how they view
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: themselves and they're going to make the team and things
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: of that nature. Obviously, you know myself, you know, I
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: was never really in that situation where you know that
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I had to really, ever fully question if I was
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: going to make the team. But obviously being around a
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: lot of guys in the run back road, young guys specifically,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: where you kind of just you know, you just look
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: at them and you know, like, man, not because of
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: the lack of talent or a lack of anything of
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: that nature, because they got the opportunity, so that means
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: they have the talent. You know, just know, man, these
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: guys are probably just going to be here for these
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: you know, four weeks of camp, right, and we need bodies, right,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: because that's kind of how the game is, right, It's
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: a business. So you need camp bodies is what we
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: call them. And you know, once the preseason games are up.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: You know, some guys are balled out in preseason and
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: they don't really get opportunity on that same team or
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: many other teams. So I can only imagine, you know,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: pretty much knowing that this football stuff, it's kind of
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: numbered to some degree. But at the end of the day,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: you know, football is a small part of your life.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you play, you know, six months
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: in the NFL, six years or sixteen years, right, it's
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: still a super small part of your life where you know,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: a lot of guys don't even make it to thirty
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: right in that game. So you've got to be able
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: to take take it and look at it like that
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: to some degree and have the perspective, which is hard
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: to do when you're in it, right. You know, that's
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: that's easier said than done. But you know, if you
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: can have that perspective in those small moments where you
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: do allow your brain to you know, move yourself away
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: from football for a little minute, you know that that
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: helps a ton. So you know, that's what I would say.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: Zach Moss, one of the great running backs in the
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: history of Utah football, kind of has to give us
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: some time today Zach, thanks for your time.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you, sir, absolutely man appreciate you guys. You
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: guys have a good one.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: Zach Moss. Will be seeing and hearing more of Zach
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: Moss this coming season. He will be a regular guest
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: on the program. A big thanks to him for joining
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: us as Utah football continues camp