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- 0:16[SPEAKER_01]: What you are listening to now is the IU report with grant shelves.
- 0:21[SPEAKER_01]: a weekly feature on the central Indiana Sports Report.
- 0:24[SPEAKER_01]: Not only do we have the IU Report every week, we preview every football and men's basketball game.
- 0:30[SPEAKER_01]: We also have a lot of women's basketball coverage with Michelle Garmin.
- 0:35[SPEAKER_01]: And we react to every game as well a couple hours after the game.
- 0:40[SPEAKER_01]: You can expect our reaction from Grant and usually my cuddle and sometimes some other guests.
- 1:01[SPEAKER_00]: You're listening to the central Indiana Sports Report with your host, Greg Midgowns.
- 1:09[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome, who's your fans to the IU report with Grant Shouse coming off a week one win over old Dominion.
- 1:16[SPEAKER_01]: We talked to right after the game grant.
- 1:18[SPEAKER_01]: If you have not listened to that, go listen to the recap of the game with Mike Hutsl.
- 1:23[SPEAKER_01]: Very raw reactions.
- 1:24[SPEAKER_01]: Very raw reaction.
- 1:25[SPEAKER_01]: That was what I was going to say.
- 1:26[SPEAKER_01]: You had a very raw reaction with a few days of reflection.
- 1:30[SPEAKER_01]: How do you feel?
- 1:31[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I've been able to watch the game since then, and I'm going to basically tell you what signetti said in his press conference is weekly press conference on Monday is that they dominated the game.
- 1:45[SPEAKER_02]: They dominated the game, but it was not reflected on the scoreboard, and it was very similar to the opener against Ford International last year.
- 1:52[SPEAKER_02]: Indiana actually dropped from twentieth to twenty-third in this week's eight people and honestly I'm okay with that I think just do the fact that I kind of want them to fly under the radar that was my big thing last year is after about three weeks I was like this team's this team should be rain but they weren't ranked for until they were about six an hour till they beat Northwestern and became bold eligible
- 2:20[SPEAKER_02]: I was good with them flying under the radar for a long time, and I'm good with that this year, and I think they need to, you know, it's, it used to be the polls matter, Greg.
- 2:30[SPEAKER_01]: They really don't.
- 2:32[SPEAKER_01]: you can earn your own way and now it it's it's a little different I you know back when Purdue five or six years will be in the top twenty five on a yearly basis it mattered you know yeah but it doesn't seem to really matter very much anymore I'd be happy to watch the Hoosiers just fly right around twenty until they uh... but if you'd be Illinois doesn't matter they're moving up if they'd be Illinois absolutely and and there's so a lot of all to be played you know you have
- 3:00[SPEAKER_02]: A hundred and twenty minutes of football until we even start thinking about Illinois and I don't know about that Indiana fans can start thinking about Illinois now because Old Dominion was the toughest test between between between between between the season beginning and they were a really good group of five team and we said it on there the other night is that I wouldn't be shocked if
- 3:26[SPEAKER_02]: They're not at the top of their conference by the end of the year.
- 3:30[SPEAKER_02]: And there's a lot of work to be done.
- 3:33[SPEAKER_02]: Indiana controlled the time of possession.
- 3:36[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they had the ball for forty-one minutes.
- 3:40[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, my analysis, the other day, was I think they won eighty-five percent of all plays.
- 3:44[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's an important stat.
- 3:46[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
- 3:47[SPEAKER_02]: And the thing is is what really set out to me was when I read the stat that they force their offense for its fifteen mistackles on Saturday.
- 3:56[SPEAKER_02]: more than any game last year, and they went to the playoffs.
- 4:00[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, and they dominated a lot of those games, and they played better in those games last year than they did on Saturday.
- 4:08[SPEAKER_02]: And again, they dominated the game, really.
- 4:13[SPEAKER_02]: Old Dominion, if you really think about how to one offensive play.
- 4:16[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 4:17[SPEAKER_02]: They had one offensive.
- 4:18[SPEAKER_01]: I guess to the fourth quarter.
- 4:20[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
- 4:20[SPEAKER_02]: but they had one offensive play that I think got everyone been out of shape.
- 4:25[SPEAKER_02]: I really don't think it was them getting stopped on the goal line twice that really has everyone been out of shape.
- 4:30[SPEAKER_02]: It was the fact on the first play of the game when they ran a seventy-five yard touchdown.
- 4:34[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was the compound of the two.
- 4:36[SPEAKER_01]: People were frustrated.
- 4:38[SPEAKER_01]: They allowed that and then you get down the goal line.
- 4:40[SPEAKER_01]: Now you're really frustrated and it was all it was still obvious that I was going to be the better team and that game even down seven nothing and having just been stopped at the one.
- 4:50[SPEAKER_02]: Well, even with some of these stats compared to last year, I want to read them to you here.
- 4:55[SPEAKER_02]: I got them pulled up first downs on Saturday.
- 4:58[SPEAKER_02]: And these are stats compared to the opener last year against Florida International, just to be clear.
- 5:05[SPEAKER_02]: On Saturday, in twenty twenty five, Indiana had thirty first downs against Old Dominion against Florida International, they had twenty three first downs.
- 5:14[SPEAKER_02]: Against Old Dominion, they had three hundred nine yards rushing against Florida International, only two hundred and thirty four yards rushing.
- 5:21[SPEAKER_02]: Toad of yards of offense against Old Dominion, five hundred and two yards of total offense against Florida International, four hundred and fourteen total yards of offense.
- 5:31[SPEAKER_02]: In twenty twenty five against Old Dominion, they had eighty nine offensive plays compared to Florida International, where they only had sixty five offensive plays.
- 5:42[SPEAKER_02]: The one really one of the only edges that the Florida International game had is that Indiana averaged about six and a half yards of offensive play, per offensive play, and the other day against Old Dominion, they averaged about five and a half.
- 5:59[SPEAKER_02]: So about a yard less than what they were averaging per play in the opener last year, attendance wise.
- 6:05[SPEAKER_02]: They had three thousand more fans in the stands.
- 6:08[SPEAKER_02]: And we talked about it then leaving a half time, which is
- 6:11[SPEAKER_02]: which is bull crap, that's bull crap, and it will get fixed.
- 6:15[SPEAKER_02]: And actually the quarterback play actually was a little better from Fernando Mendoza compared to Curtis Rork in the opener.
- 6:22[SPEAKER_02]: Mendoza, three for eighteen of thirty-one passing, a hundred and ninety-three yards, still did not throw a touchdown.
- 6:29[SPEAKER_02]: His longest pass went for forty-six yards, and he was only stacked one time, and it was like a half of the sack, like it wasn't really a sack.
- 6:39[SPEAKER_02]: Curtis work last year in the opener against Florida International through fifteen for twenty-fourth through the air for a hundred and eighty yards one touchdown his longest pass one for thirty yards and he was sack twice compared to him and does it was sack once
- 6:53[SPEAKER_02]: Indiana this year against old dominion and the opener had the ball for forty one minutes and twenty eight seconds were twenty twenty four against florida and national they had the ball for thirty two minutes and forty seconds so actually Indiana dominated the game more on Saturday than they did against florida and national in the first game last year but it's just because of a couple bad plays on offense
- 7:17[SPEAKER_02]: missed two missed assignments on defense that and a missed field goal and one dropped pass where this is all looked really different and that's unfortunate that that is what the tests were going through and I've had a chance I watched the game twice I watched it twice I watched breakdowns of it I've looked at statistics I've compared them of course you have yeah and it not our job that's right in that we're especially so I mean not just that but
- 7:46[SPEAKER_02]: the reason I wanted you to be my you guys because I'm looking for someone passionate and if you're not a guy who's digging in you're not the right guy and I'll be looking for we're looking for people were passionate well and I'll be honest with you a few years ago I wouldn't have done that I wouldn't have cared but um... saturday was really important to me you know i mean you're a die hard fan you're you've been waiting on this for over two hundred days since the noted game last year
- 8:12[SPEAKER_02]: You've been ready to go.
- 8:14[SPEAKER_02]: And honestly, I had a gut feeling going in that it may not be as good in the first game as we think.
- 8:21[SPEAKER_02]: And I jokingly say before every game they're going to get beat.
- 8:25[SPEAKER_02]: That's just what I do.
- 8:26[SPEAKER_02]: When I was a kid and my dad was coaching basketball, I used to go around saying, and that matter we're going to lose tonight.
- 8:32[SPEAKER_02]: When I knew we were going to win.
- 8:34[SPEAKER_02]: So I've taken that approach here, and I'm not really worried about it.
- 8:37[SPEAKER_02]: Now, if they have a vanilla showing and don't look as great, maybe about the same on Saturday against Kennesaw State, I think that'll raise some concerns a little bit, but when is a win?
- 8:48[SPEAKER_02]: You're never going to complain after a win, right?
- 8:51[SPEAKER_02]: Winds are hard to come by, so it's important.
- 8:56[SPEAKER_02]: It's just the fact that they didn't really play at the standard they'd wanted to play, but they still dominated the game.
- 9:01[SPEAKER_02]: And the eye test was just the fact that they had a few bad things happen in, you know, a certain amount of time.
- 9:10[SPEAKER_02]: Like, did you watch the game?
- 9:12[SPEAKER_02]: Of course.
- 9:12[SPEAKER_02]: You watch the game.
- 9:14[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'm sorry you could not have drawn up a worst start to the game.
- 9:19[SPEAKER_02]: For any team, not just Indiana, but any team.
- 9:22[SPEAKER_02]: That was a bad start.
- 9:24[SPEAKER_02]: Given up the long touchdown, getting stopped on the goal line, but really when the tide changed was the punt return for a touchdown with John Win, Jonathan Brady, actually on that punt return for a touchdown was running down the field.
- 9:37[SPEAKER_02]: I saw it today at twenty miles an hour.
- 9:41[SPEAKER_02]: He was moving at twenty miles an hour.
- 9:43[SPEAKER_02]: That sound like a lot, but a human, running twenty miles an hour.
- 9:47[SPEAKER_02]: That's unbelievable.
- 9:48[SPEAKER_02]: So there are a lot of positives to take out of it, but a lot of growing.
- 9:53[SPEAKER_02]: And that was by far the toughest knock conference team they're going to play in the first three weeks.
- 9:59[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, grand, as I mentioned you, and my cuts will recap the game afterwards, reacted, and we're a little bit emotional.
- 10:07[SPEAKER_01]: And later this week, we will talk about the Kinesaw State game, whatever there is to talk about.
- 10:12[SPEAKER_01]: But for now, I want to talk about some bigger picture things, and we've now seen every Big Ten team play at least once.
- 10:19[SPEAKER_01]: So looking back on the schedule, anything change in your mind about it, and I'll tell you what mine is.
- 10:25[SPEAKER_01]: To me, it looks like Michigan State and UCLA are even easier wins than we thought coming into the season.
- 10:32[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I wasn't surprised by that.
- 10:34[SPEAKER_02]: Michigan State, beat Western Illinois, twenty three to six, and Utah blew the drawers off of UCLA.
- 10:41[SPEAKER_02]: UCLA is just not a good coach football team.
- 10:45[SPEAKER_02]: And we saw that last year when Indiana went out there to the Rose Bowl and beat them on the road.
- 10:50[SPEAKER_02]: It's a tough place to coach football because it's not a football school.
- 10:54[SPEAKER_02]: They've had great players coming out at UCLA program, but great teams in the past.
- 10:59[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and you do feel, I mean, you do feel good about that stretch, but the stretch before it, with Illinois, Iowa and Penn State, I mean, it doesn't get any tougher than that.
- 11:10[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, you gotta, you just gotta keep going.
- 11:14[SPEAKER_02]: It's one week at a time, sixty seconds of play, whatever they say, fast physical relent was, every play's got a life in the history of its own.
- 11:22[SPEAKER_02]: So Kurt Signetti knows that more than I do.
- 11:25[SPEAKER_01]: It was a really nice weekend for the big ten I thought in particular with Ohio State and Michigan.
- 11:32[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry, not Michigan.
- 11:33[SPEAKER_01]: I did pick Michigan to win the big tin, but I think after a week that was a really bad pick.
- 11:39[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in Penn State and there are a lot of good teams in the big tin.
- 11:43[SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to be an easy road, but if you don't take too much of a negative view from Saturday and you shouldn't, there's no reason this team can't win eight between eight and ten games.
- 11:54[SPEAKER_02]: No, there's not any reason they shouldn't.
- 11:57[SPEAKER_02]: It's just the fact that they just got to be more consistent.
- 12:02[SPEAKER_02]: You got to be more consistent in the way they're going to play.
- 12:05[SPEAKER_02]: Saturday is going to be a big test and I promise you right now that that coaching staff is nailing into them that they got to be better going into this week.
- 12:14[SPEAKER_02]: They got to pass the eye test when you come off the field.
- 12:17[SPEAKER_01]: Got to start better.
- 12:19[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 12:20[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the thing is that there's a saying that you can't win the game in the first quarter.
- 12:27[SPEAKER_02]: You can certainly lose the game in the first quarter.
- 12:31[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if you're playing Ohio State and you give up in the seventy-eight yard touchdown run on first play from scrimmage, that could be the end of you.
- 12:38[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.
- 12:39[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it's a good thing you do that against OD instead of OSU.
- 12:43[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
- 12:44[SPEAKER_01]: And Coach's Agnadi is such a good coach that I'm sure that's the other thing is we talk about the goal line offense.
- 12:50[SPEAKER_01]: They weren't great play calls.
- 12:52[SPEAKER_01]: They weren't well executed.
- 12:54[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, if you have a bad coaching staff, like when the cults do that this year, I'm going to assume that that's who they are.
- 13:01[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right.
- 13:03[SPEAKER_01]: But when I say you does it when with Coach Signetti and it's hard to imagine that Coach won me over so much in one year, but he did.
- 13:11[SPEAKER_01]: And there's no doubt he's going to get these things corrected.
- 13:14[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no one else is going to run is going to have two, seventy yard runs on it.
- 13:19[SPEAKER_01]: Just those kinds of things wouldn't be that big of those fixable things wouldn't be that big of a concern to me.
- 13:26[SPEAKER_02]: And it was just literally one guy not doing his job for that to happen.
- 13:30[SPEAKER_02]: And he may have, you know, that first play, he may have broken it for a first down on the first play.
- 13:36[SPEAKER_02]: But if the one guy did his job halfway correctly, they would have gotten up seven nothing.
- 13:44[SPEAKER_02]: I'm almost confident they wouldn't have gone down and scored.
- 13:48[SPEAKER_01]: I'm almost certain that the coaching staff saw something.
- 13:51[SPEAKER_01]: They just saw something.
- 13:52[SPEAKER_01]: They were like, hey, look.
- 13:53[SPEAKER_01]: And again, watch what this guy does every time.
- 13:56[SPEAKER_01]: Watch what he does.
- 13:56[SPEAKER_01]: Watch what he does.
- 13:57[SPEAKER_01]: What's this alley open?
- 14:00[SPEAKER_02]: and they saw it and that's okay and I'm telling you that's they've been working on that every single day since about the fourth of July I'm telling you they've been doing that every single day since fall camps are they executed a perfectly twice so again no concern if I'm I you fan
- 14:21[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm telling you, I think this also still looks a lot different if he didn't score the garbage time touchdown.
- 14:27[SPEAKER_02]: And made it, twenty seven, fourteen.
- 14:28[SPEAKER_02]: We're looking at this as it's twenty seven to seven, which is what I really thought it was going to be.
- 14:32[SPEAKER_02]: You know, when I left with five minutes ago in the game, I'm like, they're not going to score again, but then I got to the car.
- 14:38[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, you got to be kidding me.
- 14:40[SPEAKER_02]: And now you start to look at that different because it gave up a garbage time touchdown.
- 14:44[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if you know anybody who predicted that I would win by thirteen, but it would be, it would seem like a much bigger margin.
- 14:52[SPEAKER_01]: because that's exactly what I said.
- 14:54[SPEAKER_02]: My thing is, is that, and I've heard other people say this, and I've said it before, too, is that after a game like that, the old coach, Tom Allen, would have been in their crowd surfing in the locker room.
- 15:05[SPEAKER_02]: We would be hoisting him up.
- 15:07[SPEAKER_02]: The fight song would be gone, would be fired up.
- 15:10[SPEAKER_02]: It'd be LEO this, LEO that.
- 15:12[SPEAKER_02]: And we have a coach that, because they didn't play to their standard, so that over five hundred yards of total offense,
- 15:20[SPEAKER_02]: dominated the game and comes in the press conference after the game pissed.
- 15:25[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm glad that that's the standard that we're out within the NFL.
- 15:30[SPEAKER_01]: Since we are where we are with the IU schedule and really the football talks get a ramp up in a couple of weeks.
- 15:38[SPEAKER_01]: Let's look more at the big tin as a whole because that's going to be so important by the way, Northwestern.
- 15:45[SPEAKER_01]: Man, that is bad.
- 15:47[SPEAKER_01]: Maryland might, we can play them.
- 15:49[SPEAKER_01]: They were pretty impressive.
- 15:50[SPEAKER_01]: That might be an interesting game now.
- 15:52[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't gotten to see them quite yet play.
- 15:55[SPEAKER_01]: Neither did I, but to beat Florida Atlantic, thirty-nine to seven, not a great program, but on the level of Old Dominion.
- 16:02[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was there at Purdue three years ago now when they played Florida Atlantic and Florida Atlantic about one.
- 16:10[SPEAKER_02]: And you know I was out there rooting for Florida Atlantic.
- 16:15[SPEAKER_01]: So how are they gonna be pretty good?
- 16:17[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and they you're right they are very comparable to Old Dominion and Actually the game that Purdue played against Florida Atlantic that I went to a few years ago was a good game.
- 16:27[SPEAKER_02]: It was a close game in the fourth quarter and it was Just a little about a couple ticks worse of a performance from Purdue than what Indiana had and that's not a knock on Purdue.
- 16:39[SPEAKER_02]: That's just how the game I remember it going
- 16:42[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, when you play a good G five team like that, like when Purdue played FAU or Indiana plays a little dominion, that's just what happens.
- 16:50[SPEAKER_02]: But this kind of saw state team and I will talk about our preview, they beat Liberty last year and Liberty was undefeated.
- 16:55[SPEAKER_02]: And it was kind of saw state first year in the league in conference USA.
- 17:00[SPEAKER_02]: So you can't take a lightly.
- 17:02[SPEAKER_02]: You cannot take a lightly again.
- 17:04[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's another test.
- 17:05[SPEAKER_01]: Indiana State, you can definitely take lightly.
- 17:07[SPEAKER_01]: They're the only ones on the schedule.
- 17:08[SPEAKER_01]: You're probably going to want to take life.
- 17:10[SPEAKER_02]: You can take lightly, but you can't tell your guys that.
- 17:13[SPEAKER_01]: But they can play their work.
- 17:13[SPEAKER_01]: We can say that.
- 17:14[SPEAKER_01]: They can play their work.
- 17:15[SPEAKER_01]: They can play their work.
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- 17:37[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
- 17:38[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
- 17:39[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if they're playing North Dakota State, I'd be a little concerned.
- 17:42[SPEAKER_01]: So that level of football produces some good football.
- 17:44[SPEAKER_01]: Don't give it wrong.
- 17:45[SPEAKER_01]: But speaking of which, the other one that impressed me and most people are gonna say, I was just the FCS team, but Oregon beating Montana State, fifty-nine to seven.
- 17:57[SPEAKER_01]: People, Montana State is really good.
- 18:01[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that would be a more of a respectable game.
- 18:05[SPEAKER_02]: Oregon blew the drawers off of them.
- 18:07[SPEAKER_02]: I mean to that's impressive.
- 18:09[SPEAKER_02]: Oregon's good.
- 18:10[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Oregon is really good.
- 18:11[SPEAKER_01]: I think we could look back at the given of the year and those are the two national champions.
- 18:15[SPEAKER_01]: That's possible.
- 18:16[SPEAKER_02]: And FCS and FBS.
- 18:18[SPEAKER_02]: It's possible.
- 18:18[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 18:19[SPEAKER_02]: Never now.
- 18:20[SPEAKER_02]: Interesting.
- 18:21[SPEAKER_01]: And also, Winkers had fifty yards against Oklahoma.
- 18:24[SPEAKER_01]: He had fifty yards in the second quarter and finished with fifty because they got behind.
- 18:29[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know,
- 18:31[SPEAKER_01]: Not as good as when he played Wisconsin a couple of years ago, but still nice performance today.
- 18:35[SPEAKER_01]: They play next.
- 18:36[SPEAKER_01]: They play more head-saint this Saturday on his way to his fifteen hundred young season.
- 18:42[SPEAKER_01]: Great.
- 18:42[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure all the IU fans are so interested in hearing about Illinois State football.
- 18:47[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much for your time.
- 18:48[SPEAKER_01]: I just love bragging about my nephew.
- 18:51[SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate it and we will talk really soon about the Hoogers and the Owls.
- 18:58[SPEAKER_01]: Is it the out?
- 18:59[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
- 18:59[SPEAKER_01]: Man, I nailed that.
- 19:01[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks, Craig.
- 19:05[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks again, the grant for joining me and talking to my youth sport.
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