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Aaron Siri | Attorney & Author Talks Brand-New Book Entitled "Vaccines, Amen: The Religion of Vaccines" · Sid & Friends In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: This guy's terrific attorney, Aaron Seery, who was on once
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  Speaker 1: before promoting his book. It's a great book. Vaccines, Amen,
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  Speaker 1: the Religion of Vaccines. Aaron, welcome back. How are you,
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  Speaker 1: my friend?
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  Speaker 2: Great, great to talk again, Sid.
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  Speaker 1: You too. I've delved into this. You know, I told
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  Speaker 1: you before that between Bobby Kennedy and, you know, Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Oz and all these other folks with, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: health part of this administration and even other friends like
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  Speaker 1: Victoria Capish, who is a huge fan of yours. I've
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  Speaker 1: decided now to dive in headfirst because I think these
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  Speaker 1: are very, very important issues. And I had a gentleman
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  Speaker 1: on last week. His name is John Coyle. He's an
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  Speaker 1: attorney in Essex County in New Jersey. And he just
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  Speaker 1: won a case, Aaron, for a man named Thibodeau, a
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  Speaker 1: groundskeeper in New Jersey, who refused to take the vaccine
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  Speaker 1: during COVID because he's a Christian. He didn't want to
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  Speaker 1: take it, okay? So he got fired. He took all
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  Speaker 1: of his money away. Turns out that on this religious exemption...
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  Speaker 1: He won. John Coyle won. And Thibodeau will be getting
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  Speaker 1: a lot of that money back. Maybe not all of it,
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  Speaker 1: but a substantial amount. So we just saw a big
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  Speaker 1: victory for religious exemption in Essex County in New Jersey.
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  Speaker 1: But it looks like the target right now, Aaron, is
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  Speaker 1: on the backs of the Amish community here in New York.
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  Speaker 1: Come on! What happened to religious exemption?
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  Speaker 2: If you can't protect the religious freedom of the Amish...
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  Speaker 2: then the First Amendment right to religious freedom is meaningless. Agreed.
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  Speaker 1: It's really that simple, right?
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  Speaker 2: It really is that simple. It really is that simple.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the Amish community has been in New York
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  Speaker 2: for almost 200 years. They live in peace. They live apart.
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  Speaker 2: They just want to be left alone. They are, in
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  Speaker 2: many ways, the litmus test for what extent in what
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  Speaker 2: protection the First Amendment and the first freedom under the
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  Speaker 2: First Amendment, religious freedom has in our country. Truly, if
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  Speaker 2: we can't respect their right to live alone in peace,
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  Speaker 2: then that right is meaningless. And right now, New York State,
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  Speaker 2: the current governor, the current Department of Health is basically
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  Speaker 2: telling the Amish, You need to do what we want
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  Speaker 2: you to do with your children's bodies or get out
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  Speaker 2: of New York. That is the current juncture, the current
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  Speaker 2: crossroad that the Amish community face. Are they going to
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  Speaker 2: need to load up their wagons and flee New York?
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  Speaker 2: Or is the United States Supreme Court going to protect
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  Speaker 2: them in a case that we now have that's actually
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  Speaker 2: going back to the Supreme Court for a second time?
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  Speaker 2: The first time about a year ago when the Supreme
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  Speaker 2: Court told the Second Circuit and lower courts, hey, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: you can't kick them out. Why don't you try this again?
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  Speaker 2: The Second Circuit, that's the appellate court that sits above
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  Speaker 2: New York, looked at it again and said, you know what?
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  Speaker 2: Pack your wagons, Amish. Get out of New York or
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  Speaker 2: do what we say. So we're going back to the
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  Speaker 2: Supreme Court and we surely hope that the Supreme Court
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  Speaker 2: will protect the Amish.
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  Speaker 1: Miller versus McDonald is the name of that case. Is
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  Speaker 1: that right, Aaron?
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy. And then, you know, God forbid this governor.
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  Speaker 1: I can't stand the governor. You have to understand I'm very,
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  Speaker 1: very close friends with Bruce Blakeman. He's running on the
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  Speaker 1: Republican ticket. In fact, tonight is the one and only
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  Speaker 1: debate here in New York airing between Blakeman and Hochul
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  Speaker 1: for governor. But Kathy Hochul has had all kinds of
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  Speaker 1: opportunities to respect religious exemptions and the Amish. And she's
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  Speaker 1: fallen short.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. She's had a lot of opportunities to respect religious liberty, period,
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  Speaker 2: in all domains of life, and she's fallen short. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 2: your current governor believes that she knows what's best, period,
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  Speaker 2: irrespective of what your beliefs are, not only in the
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  Speaker 2: domain of religion, but in all domains, frankly. She knows
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  Speaker 2: what's best for you, how to live your life, and
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  Speaker 2: she's going to impose her will on you. She is
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  Speaker 2: the antithesis. of what our founding fathers in this country
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  Speaker 2: had envisioned freedom should be, which is individual and civil rights,
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  Speaker 2: that we all have the ability to choose what religion
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  Speaker 2: and how we're going to practice it, who we associate with,
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  Speaker 2: have freedom of speech, freedom of assembly. These are fundamental issues,
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  Speaker 2: and she doesn't respect them unless they fall within the
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  Speaker 2: way she views the world. And I could go through
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  Speaker 2: many examples, but I don't think we have any time.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you got one about her emergency order on measles.
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  Speaker 1: How about that one?
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  Speaker 2: Pretty convenient on the heels of our case up to
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  Speaker 2: the Supreme Court, I would say, isn't it? Right? Here
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  Speaker 2: we go. We're going back to the Supreme Court to
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  Speaker 2: just ask them, please let the Amish just stay in
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  Speaker 2: New York. Let's leave them alone. And she wants, as
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  Speaker 2: she always does, She doesn't want decision-making based on reason,
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  Speaker 2: on rational process, on thinking about facts. She wants it
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  Speaker 2: out of motion, how she feels things should be. And
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  Speaker 2: that's really part of what her declaration is about. You're
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  Speaker 2: confronting so many issues in New York that have widespread harm.
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  Speaker 2: How about the chronic disease epidemic amongst children? Where's her
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  Speaker 2: order on that? Where's her order on the fact that
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  Speaker 2: 40% of kids in New York have a chronic disease
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  Speaker 2: right now that is serious? No, a hundred cases of
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  Speaker 2: measles that have hurt nobody that is not even a,
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  Speaker 2: is 0.0001% of the state population of New York. That's
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  Speaker 2: the emergency. No, that has nothing to do with public
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  Speaker 2: health facts, reality. That's because she has an ideology in
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  Speaker 2: her brain that, And she proceeds in that matter, not
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  Speaker 2: based on what's rational.
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  Speaker 1: Got to buy the book, folks. Vaccines on men. He's
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  Speaker 1: so smart. He's so good. My man, Aaron Seery, the
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  Speaker 1: religion of vaccines. Something tells me, Aaron, we did not
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  Speaker 1: discuss this before. We did not have a, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a warm up conversation that you probably have just as
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  Speaker 1: many criticisms for the CDC director, Erica Schwartz.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Not as many as local, but they're pretty bad, too.
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  Speaker 2: But though I will say this much, I will say
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  Speaker 2: this much. I am hopeful that those around her, you know,
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  Speaker 2: in particular, Secretary Kennedy can influence her to start thinking
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  Speaker 2: and stop feeling, stop using her beliefs and her assumptions
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  Speaker 2: about these products and start really looking at the primary
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  Speaker 2: sources and the evidence. I hold some hope that that's
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  Speaker 2: a possibility. She claims she'll do that. So far, I
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  Speaker 2: haven't seen it in what's coming out of the CDC,
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  Speaker 2: but let's, you know, we can give it a minute,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, I like that her guidance on COVID-19 vaccines.
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  Speaker 2: It just came out the other day for pregnant women,
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  Speaker 2: jab them up. She says, but if you look at
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  Speaker 2: the underlying evidence, where is it? It's, it is troubling.
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  Speaker 2: So I'll leave it at that.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Now, what about, I'll be transparent here. I've
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  Speaker 1: been friends with Nicole, Nicole Sapphire for years. We were, um,
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  Speaker 1: much more family in the past. I don't talk to
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  Speaker 1: her much anymore, but I'm not going to lie to you.
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  Speaker 1: I even sent a text one day to President Trump
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  Speaker 1: and suggested he take a good look at her, the
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  Speaker 1: Surgeon General. She's got it now. I'm not saying I
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  Speaker 1: got it before. I'm not saying that. But what are
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  Speaker 1: your thoughts on her in that very important role?
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  Speaker 2: Let's put it this way. We have had Surgeon Generals
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  Speaker 2: and we have had CDC directors for decades who who've
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  Speaker 2: espoused views that only promote certain products, right, that promote
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  Speaker 2: vaccines and other products, and have never addressed in any
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  Speaker 2: serious manner the other side of the coin, the harms.
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  Speaker 2: Leave it to the companies that make billions of these
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  Speaker 2: products to promote them, or at least be neutral about it.
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  Speaker 2: Equally address the harms it can cause, as well as
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  Speaker 2: the benefits. These two folks, the current Surgeon General, the
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  Speaker 2: current CDC Director, if you look at their history, Their
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  Speaker 2: history is not one in which you've seen balance with
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  Speaker 2: regards to those two things. Balance would reflect to me
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  Speaker 2: that they just view them as products, not as items
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  Speaker 2: of worship like your current governor does. Right. This will
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  Speaker 2: kick the Amish out of New York over them. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, my my again, I will say that their
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  Speaker 2: history does not bode well for what they will do
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  Speaker 2: when they're in there. But again, I'm hopeful that Secretary
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  Speaker 2: Kennedy can maybe get them to read some books, Sid.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe get them to look at some of the primary
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  Speaker 2: sources and actually start developing, looking at their products again
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  Speaker 2: and acting like regulators as the government should over them,
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  Speaker 2: not as pom-pom cheerleaders for them.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you must have been happy a couple of weeks
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  Speaker 1: ago when President Trump came out and said that he's
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  Speaker 1: going to reduce the number of vaccines and suggested that
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  Speaker 1: it goes back to parents, right? Parents, we want more
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  Speaker 1: parents involved than city, state, and federal government. You must
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  Speaker 1: have been happy about that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm very happy. I think it's a wonderful thing for
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  Speaker 2: our country. Anytime the president of the United States issues
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  Speaker 2: an executive order that goes in the direction of protecting
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  Speaker 2: our most fundamental rights, in this instance, as you just
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  Speaker 2: pointed out, I think, The right to be able to
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  Speaker 2: live your convictions, if an individual says, hey, look, my
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  Speaker 2: convictions are not to inject X product into my or
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  Speaker 2: my child's body, yes, the government should respect it. Now,
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  Speaker 2: that was an executive order signed by the president, which
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  Speaker 2: means it sets the policy for the whole federal government.
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  Speaker 2: Will his departments abide by it? And I'll give you
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  Speaker 2: one quick example, okay? The Department of Justice now should
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  Speaker 2: abide by this directive, this new policy. And I'll give
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  Speaker 2: you the simplest thing they could do, the simplest thing
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  Speaker 2: they could do in the real world to take that
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  Speaker 2: executive order from just a piece of paper and make
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  Speaker 2: it real. They could do that by intervening in the
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  Speaker 2: Amish case, and they could do that at any time,
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  Speaker 2: filing an amicus brief and saying, hey, government, excuse me, hey,
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  Speaker 2: government of New York, you should be respecting the Amish's right,
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  Speaker 2: and they do have a First Amendment right under the
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  Speaker 2: Constitution to religious freedom. The Department of Justice, the Trump
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  Speaker 2: administration hasn't done that yet, but let's see if they
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  Speaker 2: do it. If they do, we will see some life
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  Speaker 2: breathed into that piece of paper that President Trump signed.
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  Speaker 2: If they don't do that most minimal thing– and, man,
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  Speaker 2: that's the most minimal thing I can think of to
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  Speaker 2: make that thing, that piece of paper worthwhile. I'm not–
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  Speaker 2: it's only as good as the conduct in the real
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  Speaker 2: world that results from it. A little bit of that.
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  Speaker 1: Fair statement. Once again, folks, you got to buy the book, Vaccines, Amen,
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  Speaker 1: The Religion of Vaccines. There's nobody smarter. He's a great
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  Speaker 1: guy too, but he's so smart. My buddy, Aaron Siri. Aaron,
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  Speaker 1: another amazing appearance. Thank you so much for doing this.
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  Speaker 1: Do it again very, very soon, buddy. Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Always my pleasure. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: God bless you. And I got all 10 books. Just
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  Speaker 1: so you know, Aaron, I got 10 books. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: very much.
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  Speaker 2: My pleasure. You guys need a lot of help in
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  Speaker 2: New York in this department.
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  Speaker 1: We really do.
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  Speaker 2: We really do.
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  Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to hand the books out to
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  Speaker 1: people who want to learn more, which they should. Aaron, Siri,
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much. Thank you. Take care.
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  Speaker 2: What the heck is going on here?