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The Rita Panahi Show | 4 February · The Rita Panahi Show

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Speaker 1: On scoring Littles Australia. This is the Wader Panalty Show.
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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Riata Panicky Show. Coming
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Speaker 2: up tonight. Jim Chalmers denies claims by economists that the
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Speaker 2: rise in inflation is due to the government's high spending.
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Speaker 2: My panel will discuss that and the day's other top headlines.
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Speaker 2: The Great Douglas Murray is back and I'll get his
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Speaker 2: thoughts on everything from the celebrity virtue signaling we saw
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Speaker 2: the Grammys to the uprising in Iran. Mihrowitz will have
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Speaker 2: the latest from the US, including renewed calls for voter
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Speaker 2: ID to ensure election integrity and Left is Losing It
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Speaker 2: features this terrifying male nurse advocating for all sorts of
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Speaker 2: nastiness against Trump voters.
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Speaker 3: The vasculator in the leg it really bleeds bleeds well,
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Speaker 3: someone could bleed up very quickly from that, probably like
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Speaker 3: a couple of minutes.
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Speaker 4: Really.
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Speaker 2: Treasurer Jim Chalmers continues to insist government spending is not
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Speaker 2: to blame for the latest interest rate increase. The RBA
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Speaker 2: lifted rates twenty five points yesterday after higher than expected
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Speaker 2: inflation numbers fueled by government spending and we may be
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Speaker 2: facing further rate increases as the headline rate of the
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Speaker 2: consumer price Index is expected to hit four point two
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Speaker 2: percent at the end of the financial year, up from
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Speaker 2: the initial estimate of three point seven percent. But the
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Speaker 2: Treasurer maintains that the economic experts are wrong and that
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Speaker 2: the surgeon inflation has nothing to do with government spending.
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Speaker 5: The statement released by the Independent Reserve Bank explaining the
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Speaker 5: decision that they have taken today does not mention government
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Speaker 5: spending at all. It doesn't mention government spending at all,
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Speaker 5: mister Speaker, in fact, but makes it very clear that
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Speaker 5: the pressure on inflation he's coming from private demand.
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Speaker 2: My Outsider's colleague James Morrow, has a column in Today's
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Speaker 2: papers noting to believe charmers is to believe that everyone
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Speaker 2: from independent economists to global bodies like the International Monetary
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Speaker 2: Fund and the OECD are all in cahoots to tax
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Speaker 2: paying Australians away from the Treasurer who loves them so
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Speaker 2: much and only wants the best for them. Joining me
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Speaker 2: now is Mensi's Research Center Senior Fella Nicicata and PR
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Speaker 2: Council Managing Director at Christy McSweeney, Nick Jim Charmers sees
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Speaker 2: no relationship between government expenditure and inflationary pressure.
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Speaker 6: No, I think it's been too cute by half here
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Speaker 6: rita the idea that oh Michel Bulloch didn't mention it, Well,
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Speaker 6: she didn't mention that the sun rises in the eastern
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Speaker 6: sets in the west. But you know, we just assume
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Speaker 6: that's what happened. Everybody with very basic economic knowledge knows
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Speaker 6: that inflation always begins in Washington or in our case,
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Speaker 6: in Canberra, because government spending creates a movement in the economy.
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Speaker 6: It puts money into the economy, and that will inflate
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Speaker 6: the economy just as surely as private sector money will.
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Speaker 6: And not only that, it will spreeze out private sector money.
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Speaker 6: I shouldn't have to go into all this. I mean
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Speaker 6: people should learn this at school, shouldn't they. But Jim
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Speaker 6: Chalmers must think we're all stupid or something.
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Speaker 2: You must have been absent. They taught economics at university.
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Speaker 2: It is economics one oh one. Christy, what will this
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Speaker 2: mean for the average household to have another interest rate increase?
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Speaker 2: We've already got a cost of living crisis.
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Speaker 7: I think for the average household it's been really, really
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Speaker 7: clear and there's figures out there, not just OURBA figures,
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Speaker 7: but the Coalition has done an analysis where rents, insurance costs,
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Speaker 7: electricity costs have all gone up between twenty two and
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Speaker 7: thirty eight percent over the last two years. It is
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Speaker 7: very clear Australians can't afford continuous interest rate heights. And
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Speaker 7: as for the govern its solution to making housing more
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Speaker 7: affordable in a climate where any offset from a five
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Speaker 7: percent deposit labor Party first Home bonus scheme is not
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Speaker 7: going to be worth the paper it's written on, and
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Speaker 7: it isn't anyway, because there's much data out there saying
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Speaker 7: it's just driving up house prices with rates on top
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Speaker 7: of that, it's not really helping young Australians get into
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Speaker 7: a home, and it's not helping those who have a
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Speaker 7: home be able to pay for other essentials.
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Speaker 2: The number of rate increases we've had, we were expecting
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Speaker 2: to have decreases in the last absolute months. We were
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Speaker 2: talking about four or five yeah drops, and instead we're
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Speaker 2: going back up again. And in light of yesterday's rate rise,
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Speaker 2: the Albanezer government is promising a swath of tax reforms
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Speaker 2: in its budget. A government sources told the Australian Financial
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Speaker 2: Review that the fifty percent capital gains tax discount for
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Speaker 2: property investors is being primed for the chopping block. Christi
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Speaker 2: AaB had gone quite on this idea after the twenty
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Speaker 2: nineteen election, but slashing capital gains tax discount now seems
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Speaker 2: to be at the forefront of the Treasurer's agenda.
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Speaker 7: Well, we've got an economic environment that is led by
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Speaker 7: a really strangled industrial relations agenda, and that's how labor
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Speaker 7: governments run the economy by ceding too union industrial relations
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Speaker 7: agenda which does nothing to promote private company enterprise and productivity.
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Speaker 7: So we now have over fifty percent of federal government
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Speaker 7: coffers paid for by working Australians. Fifty percent of government
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Speaker 7: revenue is by the tax of payg Australians.
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Speaker 8: So we're hugely stagnant.
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Speaker 7: We can't produce anything, we can't lift our economic productivity
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Speaker 7: because of industrial relations framework that we have.
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Speaker 8: That means that, well, where's money going to come from.
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Speaker 7: It's going to come from property and it's going to
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Speaker 7: come from superannuation because that is all the government has
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Speaker 7: to play with without creating any other reforms.
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Speaker 2: Well, Nick, this is labor reverting to type they were
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Speaker 2: scareduled off these sorts of policies after twenty nineteen. But
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Speaker 2: we know this is at the core of modern labor,
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Speaker 2: the politics of envy, punishing those who work, those who save,
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Speaker 2: and those who invest.
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Speaker 6: There's two phrases that really send a chill down my
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Speaker 6: spine when they come from a labor treasurer. One is
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Speaker 6: tax reform, because you know he's not going to reform
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Speaker 6: taxes down. The other is intergenerational equity. Well, what does
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Speaker 6: that mean. It means he's got his hand in granny's teapot.
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Speaker 6: He's after our retirement savings. That's what he's doing with
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Speaker 6: this capital gains tax grab on investment property because, as
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Speaker 6: you know, most people, most investment property is owned by
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Speaker 6: ordinary people who've saved hard all their lives, put money
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Speaker 6: aside so that they can invest in a property for
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Speaker 6: their retirement. He's going after retirement savings. And this is
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Speaker 6: just a ludicrous because you go after people's retirement savings,
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Speaker 6: you forced them all on the pension. There's no intergenerational
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Speaker 6: lectory in that. It just means that young people got
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Speaker 6: to work hard to pay income tax so they can
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Speaker 6: pay people on a pension much better that people should
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Speaker 6: be able to support themselves in retirement, because that's totally
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Speaker 6: an anathema to Labour's view.
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Speaker 1: Of the world.
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Speaker 2: Well, I wonder how long before we start hearing about
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Speaker 2: inheritance tax and having those discussions. I can't be far
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Speaker 2: away now. Lydia Thorpe was back to her usual antics.
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Speaker 2: On the first Senate sitting day of the year, the
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Speaker 2: Independent senator dramatically stormed out of the chamber during a
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Speaker 2: debate about Israeli President Isaac Herzog's visit to Australia. The
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Speaker 2: Greens had put forward a motion condemning the government's decision
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Speaker 2: to invite the Israeli president. Now wats here as Lydia
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Speaker 2: Thorpe interrupts Labor Senator Anthony Chisholm's explanation as to why
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Speaker 2: they wouldn't be back in the motion.
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Speaker 7: Rather than disrupting the important routine of business, and I
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Speaker 7: would now move that the question be put so the
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Speaker 7: question is that the suspension motion, as a move by
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Speaker 7: Senator Shuebridgeby agreed.
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Speaker 2: To it really is just the child senator, isn't she nick?
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Speaker 2: After that, Lydia Thorpe rose from her chair and walked out.
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Speaker 6: Althought it's very generous of you to call it a debate.
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Speaker 6: Reta mean. A debate is where you put up a
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Speaker 6: proposition and then somebody argues against it, and you argue
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Speaker 6: the counterposition. No, no, she just stands up and says
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Speaker 6: no pride in genocide and storms out of the chamber.
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Speaker 6: This is just adolescent behavior, isn't it. She doesn't seem
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Speaker 6: to have grown up at all in the Christmas break.
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Speaker 6: It's a disgrace in the Parliament. It's really a disgrace
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Speaker 6: to our country. And it's a real insult, of course
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Speaker 6: to the Jewish community that they've suffered so much since
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Speaker 6: over Bondi that she can even now stand up and
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Speaker 6: say that the Israeli President shouldn't be coming here. Of
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Speaker 6: course he should be coming here. Fifteen Jews were killed
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Speaker 6: on December fourteenth, and it's only fit and proper that
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Speaker 6: the president should come here. I hope the Prime Minister
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Speaker 6: does too.
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Speaker 2: By the way, now till MPs Zali Stegel and Soface
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Speaker 2: Gams have also penned a joint letter expressing their concern
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Speaker 2: about the visit by the Israeli president. The letter says,
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Speaker 2: we are deeply concerned about the potential consequences this invitation
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Speaker 2: and visit may have for social cohesion within Australia. CHRISTI
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Speaker 2: these teals seem to claim that unity among all communities
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Speaker 2: in this country will be threatened by this visit. I
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Speaker 2: mean that is fairly sinister. I would have thought it's.
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Speaker 7: The buzz code word for everything, isn't it social cohesion?
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Speaker 7: It's a cop out for not having an opinion. It's
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Speaker 7: a cop out bubble speak phrase that politicians seem to
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Speaker 7: use for every answer about every question on immigration and
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Speaker 7: particularly to do with Israel Palestine, activism on our streets
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Speaker 7: causing damage and harm to communities. And can I say
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Speaker 7: the tears are actually representing a view that was really
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Speaker 7: prevalent in the Labor Party. We saw Ann Lee, the
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Speaker 7: Multicultural Affairs Minister, answer with the same statement three times
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Speaker 7: if it would be a welcome visit.
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Speaker 8: She refused to say she welcomed it.
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Speaker 7: The Prime Minister had to come out several hours later
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Speaker 7: and say he didn't welcome it either. He didn't say that,
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Speaker 7: but he said it might promote social cohesion and reconciliation.
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Speaker 7: So they have just represented a view that it's also
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Speaker 7: very very common in Labor but buzzwordsis social cohesion buzzwear.
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Speaker 2: When you hear the words social cohesion, you should be
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Speaker 2: on red alert that you are being sold something that
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Speaker 2: is not good for you and you're being told to
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Speaker 2: shut up about it now. A Liberal senator has raised
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Speaker 2: security concerns about the number of close family members of
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Speaker 2: senior Iranian regime figures living in Australia. Dave Shama raised
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Speaker 2: the issue with Tony Burke in a letter back in
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Speaker 2: November last year, but the Home Affairs Minister has refused
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Speaker 2: to address the issue. The letter details concerns about a
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Speaker 2: top Iranian military advisor's daughter who was living in Queensland.
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Speaker 2: According to her social media accounts. There's no suggestion of
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Speaker 2: any specific wrongdoing by the woman, but her father is
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Speaker 2: a senior commander in Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard before becoming
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Speaker 2: a military advisor to Ayatola Ali Komeni. He's also currently
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Speaker 2: sanctioned by Australia. Nick, the question is why does this
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Speaker 2: woman welcome in Australia?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and why don't we hear Lydia thought storming out
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Speaker 6: of Parliament over this one?
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Speaker 1: You know why?
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Speaker 6: It is rarely president as I'm saying it no, you're
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Speaker 6: quite right to ask questions about why these people are
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Speaker 6: in Australia. We should also be asking questions about where
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Speaker 6: they get the money to live here in luxury. The
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Speaker 6: relatives of people are part of that odious regime in Tehran.
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Speaker 6: This is money, no doubt, which has been filtered and
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Speaker 6: stolen from the Iranian people by this awful, horrible dictatorial
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Speaker 6: regime which all of us, all of us should be
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Speaker 6: wishing the demise of very quickly. And I would love
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Speaker 6: to see the Greens, indeed the Left in genera or
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Speaker 6: even the ABC spend a little bit more time talking
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Speaker 6: about the evils of Iran and its regime and less
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Speaker 6: time obsessing about Israel.
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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think that's going to happen. But Christy,
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Speaker 2: this woman, as we said, accused of any specific wrongdoing
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Speaker 2: in Australia, but her family is part of a regime
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Speaker 2: that oppresses women, and yet she's living in a free
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Speaker 2: country like Australia, free to walk around without a hijab
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Speaker 2: and enjoy all sorts of protections that women don't have
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Speaker 2: in Iran.
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Speaker 7: There's actually a significant descent around the privileged position that
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Speaker 7: children of the leaders of the Iranian regime are in
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Speaker 7: and they are living here in Australia, in the United States,
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Speaker 7: in the UK. The Iranian people are disgusted that they
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Speaker 7: can live with freedom and privilege, and particularly women are
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Speaker 7: the daughters of the leaders of the regime can live
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Speaker 7: in complete freedom, where of course Iranian women cannot. And
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Speaker 7: so I'm pleased to see there is some uprising amongst
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Speaker 7: the Iranian people, but there should be more uprising general
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Speaker 7: press and the general population. We don't see people marching
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Speaker 7: in the streets for the women of Iran.
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Speaker 2: Bret and we don't and we didn't see any mention,
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Speaker 2: not a single mention of the tens of thousands slaughtered
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Speaker 2: by the Iranian regime. At the Grammys yesterday, they were
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Speaker 2: all wearing their little ice out badges and talking about
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Speaker 2: stolen land, but nothing about innocent people being slaughtered. Christi
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Speaker 2: mcsweeny Ni Kata, thank you so much for your time
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Speaker 2: joining me now. Is the author of international best sellers,
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Speaker 2: including his latest work on Democracies and death cults. Douglas Murray,
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Speaker 2: welcome back. We are going to tackle some serious geopolitical
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Speaker 2: issues shortly, but what good timing that we welcome you
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Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty six, in the week of the Grammys,
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Speaker 2: where we were treated to endless empty platitudes and virtue
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Speaker 2: signaling from the celebrity class, including this absurdly contradictory statement
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Speaker 2: from Billie Eilish, no one is illegal on stolen land, Douglas.
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Speaker 2: How does she simultaneously advocate for open borders and also
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Speaker 2: claim Americans are living on a stolen land? How does
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Speaker 2: that work?
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Speaker 1: I don't think it does work. I'm not sure what
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Speaker 1: in Billie Eilish's head does work. I would just I'd
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Speaker 1: ask the question, what exactly is stolen land? Who stole
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Speaker 1: the land? And did anyone steal the land before? Were
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Speaker 1: their first nations peoples who always lived there, or did
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Speaker 1: they maybe themselves steal the land at some point from
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Speaker 1: some other tribe or group. It's possible. I just throw
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Speaker 1: it out there as a possibility. But of course I
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Speaker 1: think what miss Eilish thinks is that America and presumably
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Speaker 1: because this is the sort of pseudo thought that a
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Speaker 1: lot of people have in the celeb world, is that
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Speaker 1: America and other Western countries are on stolen land, and
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Speaker 1: that there's something unique about that, and that as a result, yes,
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Speaker 1: you shouldn't have borders. No one is illegal. You can
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Speaker 1: allow anyone in, and there should be no rules. I
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Speaker 1: just wonder if that that rule, that thought, if you
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Speaker 1: can call it, that applies anywhere else. I wonder there
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Speaker 1: are other places in the world that are stolen land
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Speaker 1: in her mind, and whether or not she thinks those
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Speaker 1: places should also be somehow either punished with open borders,
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Speaker 1: entirely open borders, or returned to some other people. I
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Speaker 1: don't know. Africa would be a very interesting place to
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Speaker 1: start all sorts of tribal disputes and into religious disputes.
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Speaker 1: She could, she could try it there, but no, this
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Speaker 1: is this is just pure you know, virtue signaling celeb stuff.
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Speaker 1: What was pitiful about it was just that cutaway there
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Speaker 1: where that blonde star name I don't know, look.
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Speaker 2: Looked as if breena Carpenter.
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Speaker 1: Is that right, that's Sabrina Carpenter. Was wonderful to know
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Speaker 1: she looked so deeply moved. Didn't she reat it as
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Speaker 1: if she had just heard something so profound and brave
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Speaker 1: and stunning, And yeah, well, I'm very glad to know
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Speaker 1: what's in miss Eilish's head. As a result of this
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Speaker 1: brilliant proclamation, well, when.
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Speaker 2: I see people sharing that statement of hers unronically and
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Speaker 2: not mocking it, I think it just shows you where
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Speaker 2: some people are. I think social media has been wonderful
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Speaker 2: and revealing just the intelligence of some folk. And interesting
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Speaker 2: development for Billie Halish because it turns out members of
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Speaker 2: the Tonga tribe want to chat about the mansion she
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Speaker 2: owns on their ancestral land. A spokesman for the tribe said,
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Speaker 2: as the first people of the Greater Los Angeles basin,
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Speaker 2: we do understand that her home is situated on our
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Speaker 2: ancestral land, and they confirmed our was that Eileish has
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Speaker 2: not contacted our tribe directly regarding her property. But it
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Speaker 2: wasn't just her. The whole thing was one pitiful anti
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Speaker 2: Ice protest and everyone had to submit. Indeed, Country star
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Speaker 2: Jelly Roll has come under intense criticism for refusing to
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Speaker 2: condemn Ice and Trump. This is what he had to
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Speaker 2: say on the night.
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Speaker 4: So I can tell you that people shouldn't care to
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Speaker 4: hear my opinion. Man, you know, I'm a dumb redneck.
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Speaker 4: I haven't watched enough. I didn't have a phone for
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Speaker 4: eighteen months.
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Speaker 1: I've had one for four months and don't have social media.
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Speaker 2: Douglas, how much is this celebrity activism going to move
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Speaker 2: the dial? Do you think?
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Speaker 4: Oh?
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Speaker 1: I think it'll help move the dial enormously in President
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Speaker 1: Trump's favor. I think, Jelly Roll not something I've said before,
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Speaker 1: mister Roll, I wish more people. I wish more people
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Speaker 1: were like him. It's sinister to demand that celebrity should
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Speaker 1: have views on things, and not least because they'll simply
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Speaker 1: reiterate the same views of other celebrities and just say
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Speaker 1: whatever pabulum they think will gain them some popularity among
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Speaker 1: their peers. I wish more celebrities would say, look, I
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Speaker 1: just don't know about this if asked, and as a result,
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Speaker 1: keep stum. But just to go back to our friend
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Speaker 1: Billy Eilish that I'm thrilled that the first nations of
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Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Basin turn out to be the owners
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Speaker 1: of Billie Eilish's house. The obvious thing to do on
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Speaker 1: this occasion, I'm willing to grant them the benefit of
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Speaker 1: the doubt, and that they have always the people of
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Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Basin always lived there and just contiguously
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Speaker 1: for millennia. I think on this occasion Billy Eilish can
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Speaker 1: get herself out of this problem by just leaving the
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Speaker 1: house and leaving it to the first peoples of the
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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Basin, whose rightful property it obviously is. And
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Speaker 1: if she wants to show that it's not just wind
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Speaker 1: coming out of her but actually action, that's the real,
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Speaker 1: really decent thing to do. So I look forward to
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Speaker 1: her handing over the keys of her multimillion dollar house
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Speaker 1: to the first peoples of the Los Angeles Basin, who
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Speaker 1: I'm sure will have a wonderful time in the jacuzi
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Speaker 1: and in the house as a whole.
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Speaker 2: I think that will happen. She has to be a
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Speaker 2: woman of her words. She wouldn't just be spewing empty
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Speaker 2: platitudes without action, I'm sure. Now let's talk about Iran.
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Speaker 2: There is an uprising against Islamu's regime. There has been
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Speaker 2: for weeks. They've ruled the country since the Islamic Revolution
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Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy nine. Thousands have been slaughtered in this
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Speaker 2: latest uprising. You wrote in The New York Post that
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Speaker 2: for decades the regime in Iran has acted with near impunity,
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Speaker 2: not just at home but also abroad, where they are
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Speaker 2: the chief sponsors of terror. But the response from the
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Speaker 2: international community. For two long Douglas has been weak and confused.
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Speaker 2: Do you see that changing under the Trump administration.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's very interesting, first of all, to segue from
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Speaker 1: what we were just talking about Rita, I don't need
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Speaker 1: to tell you. I mean, one of the extraordinary things
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Speaker 1: about this is that apparently tens of thousands, it seems
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Speaker 1: of Iranian protests, including students, have been massacred by the
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Speaker 1: revolutionary Islamic government in Iran, and all the celebrity airheads,
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Speaker 1: of course pretty much have just nothing to say about it.
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Speaker 1: And I think there's a reason for that, which is
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Speaker 1: that it's not involving America, the West, or Jews, and
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Speaker 1: if any of those groups were involved, of course that
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Speaker 1: we would hear a lot more outcry. Seems a lot
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Speaker 1: of people are rather confused by the idea that someone
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Speaker 1: like the iatat Hamanian his terrorist government do things on
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Speaker 1: their own steam, have their own views, and act on
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Speaker 1: their disgusting ideology, including by massacring the Iranian people. I
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Speaker 1: think this confuses a lot of people, particularly in America
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Speaker 1: in the celebrity class. They're presumably also confused because they
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Speaker 1: wanted to do whatever Donald Trump doesn't. They wanted to
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Speaker 1: do whatever he doesn't do, and don't do whatever he
22:05
Speaker 1: does do. I actually think, as I said in the
22:08
Speaker 1: New York post piece, I think that one of the
22:11
Speaker 1: things you can say about Donald Trump in general is
22:13
Speaker 1: that he does tend to do what he says he's
22:16
Speaker 1: going to do. Now, he said that if the regime
22:19
Speaker 1: continued with the massacres, the public executions are much more
22:25
Speaker 1: the Iranian revolutionary government would feel the might of the
22:29
Speaker 1: American military, certainly American air power, and he has of
22:34
Speaker 1: course moved a fleet of American war vessels to the region.
22:41
Speaker 1: And we'll see in the coming days whether he actually
22:46
Speaker 1: follows through on his threat. It seems that the regime
22:49
Speaker 1: is continuing the massacres. They're doing so with, of course,
22:53
Speaker 1: the added benefit that tyrants always have, which is that
22:56
Speaker 1: they can turn off the internet, turn off the electors,
22:59
Speaker 1: and try to make sure the world cannot see what
23:02
Speaker 1: they're doing to the Iranian people. I hope that doesn't work.
23:07
Speaker 1: I hope that that trick of dictators around the world
23:10
Speaker 1: doesn't succeed on this occasion. The world does actually pay
23:14
Speaker 1: attention to this, but it is very striking. You know,
23:17
Speaker 1: The New York Times and other papers of record have
23:21
Speaker 1: just not even bothered to put this story on the
23:23
Speaker 1: front page in weeks, and that speaks to a more
23:27
Speaker 1: general apathy about this. You know, I think this is
23:32
Speaker 1: the silence of so many people in the face of
23:36
Speaker 1: the massacre of the brave protesters in Iran is something
23:40
Speaker 1: that people will look back on with some shame.
23:43
Speaker 2: I think, yes, they're on the wrong side of history there,
23:48
Speaker 2: undoubtedly now we're sa In Davos, President Trump introduced the
23:53
Speaker 2: concept of the Board of Pace. It was not popular
23:56
Speaker 2: with a number of countries, including France and Britain. But
24:00
Speaker 2: do you see any merit in a board of peace?
24:03
Speaker 2: And would it coexist with the UN or ultimately could
24:06
Speaker 2: it replace the UN?
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Speaker 1: The big problem which you know with the UN is
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Speaker 1: that it's so called peacekeeping forces routinely failed to keep
24:19
Speaker 1: the peace. We saw that, of course in the former Yugoslavia,
24:23
Speaker 1: particularly with the Dutch military who stood aside as the
24:26
Speaker 1: schrebronitza massacre, genocide happened, and we've seen it more recently
24:32
Speaker 1: in the utter failure of the UN peace keeping force
24:35
Speaker 1: in the south of Lebanon to stop hez Blah activity.
24:40
Speaker 1: So I certainly wouldn't trust the UN to oversee security
24:46
Speaker 1: in the post war Gaza period. I think there are
24:49
Speaker 1: several things that are interesting about the Board of Peace.
24:52
Speaker 1: One is that President Trump has made himself the chairman,
24:55
Speaker 1: or has been asked to be the chairman, and that
24:57
Speaker 1: shows that he's going to be committed to the success
25:01
Speaker 1: of post war Gaza, and that itself, I think is
25:03
Speaker 1: a good sign. Secondly, there is concern among many people
25:07
Speaker 1: at the fact that, you know, Vladimir Putin has been
25:09
Speaker 1: invited to join the Kataris, who of course are another
25:12
Speaker 1: state sponsor of terrorism in the region and extremism, have
25:16
Speaker 1: been asked to join. But the third thing is that
25:19
Speaker 1: it is very striking that a general, a genuine international
25:25
Speaker 1: coalition is in the process of being put together. Now
25:28
Speaker 1: what that looks like is still unclear. There is going
25:32
Speaker 1: to have to be very very specific oversight to stop
25:35
Speaker 1: a security oversight to stop Hamaz regrouping and being able
25:39
Speaker 1: to continue their persecution and murder of Palestinians in Gaza
25:43
Speaker 1: who stand up to them, and that's going to be
25:46
Speaker 1: probably the hardest bit of the whole puzzle to solve.
25:51
Speaker 1: But there are other countries that including the Amortis and
25:55
Speaker 1: others who I think will be able to help out
25:56
Speaker 1: in a meaningful way in the rebuilding process. And I
25:59
Speaker 1: think to get a regional coalition like this is a
26:03
Speaker 1: considerable diplomatic success. But of course it's going to rely
26:07
Speaker 1: on what happens in the months and years ahead. I'm
26:11
Speaker 1: all for any new thinking on this because the status
26:15
Speaker 1: quo has been so appalling, and the UN status quo
26:20
Speaker 1: was basically that you know Hamaz would end up rearming,
26:24
Speaker 1: you rebuild Gaza, the same thing happens again in a
26:27
Speaker 1: few years time, and that's just not I think that
26:30
Speaker 1: shouldn't be acceptable to anyone. So any new thinking on it,
26:33
Speaker 1: I think is to be welcomed.
26:37
Speaker 2: I've been wanting to ask you about this shocking story
26:39
Speaker 2: from the Netherlands, where an idealistic project to house refugees
26:44
Speaker 2: and students together in a custom built block became a
26:48
Speaker 2: nightmare of sexual assault and violence. The scheme placed one
26:52
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five students alongside one hundred and twenty
26:55
Speaker 2: five refugees, with residents encouraged to form buddy partnerships to
26:59
Speaker 2: help my fagrants adjusted Dutch society. However, testimonies from former
27:04
Speaker 2: residents shared in an investigative documentary described repeated sexual assaults, stalking,
27:09
Speaker 2: and violent confrontations, and Douglas this nightmare endured for years
27:15
Speaker 2: because everyone seemed to be so desperate for this pioneering
27:20
Speaker 2: project to work, and immediately for me, brought back the
27:25
Speaker 2: grooming gang scandal in the UK, supposedly well intentioned people
27:31
Speaker 2: turning a blind eye to just some horrific behavior.
27:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is reminiscent of that, and sadly
27:39
Speaker 1: of many other such cases Reta. I mean it reminds
27:42
Speaker 1: me of cases I wrote about in The Strange Death
27:44
Speaker 1: of Europe ten years ago, now where, for instance, something
27:47
Speaker 1: there was a case I mentioned where an AID worker
27:51
Speaker 1: who worked with refugees and encouraged open borders was herself
27:56
Speaker 1: raped by some refugees migrants and was encouraged by her
28:04
Speaker 1: colleagues not to report it and indeed to cover it
28:06
Speaker 1: up so that the narrative held. And this story from
28:10
Speaker 1: the Netherlands is very similar to that, and I think
28:14
Speaker 1: it speaks to a really big problem in our time.
28:17
Speaker 1: You have to say, you have to ask the question,
28:21
Speaker 1: how many, for instance, sexual assaults do you want to
28:25
Speaker 1: cover up in order to protect the narrative that you're
28:29
Speaker 1: pushing on the people. See, I would have thought the
28:32
Speaker 1: answer is none. I think that would be the obvious one.
28:35
Speaker 1: If you stick a bunch of students beside a large
28:39
Speaker 1: number of recently arrived males from other cultures who will
28:43
Speaker 1: not share the Dutch attitudes towards sex and much more,
28:48
Speaker 1: you are going to have problems. I would have thought
28:50
Speaker 1: that the moment that the first assault happened, you scrapped
28:53
Speaker 1: the experiment. But isn't it interesting, Rita, that in all
28:57
Speaker 1: of these cases there seems to be this belief, the
29:00
Speaker 1: foundational not I want't say myth, but the foundational belief
29:06
Speaker 1: of the society has to be held to even if
29:11
Speaker 1: a massive number of lives are ruined along the way.
29:15
Speaker 1: And I don't think that should be the deal. I
29:17
Speaker 1: think we should be able to pivot, We should be
29:20
Speaker 1: able to reverse mistakes, We should be able to alter
29:23
Speaker 1: the course we're on if the course we're on isn't working.
29:27
Speaker 1: But we'll see, you know, maybe the Dutch authorities, like
29:30
Speaker 1: many of the British authorities and others in recent years,
29:33
Speaker 1: will decide that there is some permissible amount of rape
29:37
Speaker 1: that you can have in your societies in order to
29:41
Speaker 1: continue the shibboleths of our time. I think it's lamentable that.
29:46
Speaker 1: And then you mentioned history earlier. I really think that
29:50
Speaker 1: when people look back at things like this, look back
29:54
Speaker 1: at the way in which in twenty first century Europe
29:57
Speaker 1: we regarded people and victims of domestic victims of sexual
30:02
Speaker 1: violence as being just sort of easily counted up as
30:06
Speaker 1: just collateral to the prevailing ideology, I think we'll look
30:10
Speaker 1: back on that with not just bewilderment, but serious judgment.
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Speaker 2: Yes, let's hope. So, let's hope there's some lessons learned,
30:19
Speaker 2: because in the UK it doesn't appear to be the case.
30:22
Speaker 2: Douglas Murray, thank you so much for your time tonight.
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Speaker 1: It's a great pleasure. As always, thank you.
30:28
Speaker 2: Still to come. Lefties are losing ed, plus the latest
30:31
Speaker 2: from the US, including renewed calls for voter ID to
30:35
Speaker 2: ensure election integrity. Army Horowitz is up next. You're watching
30:50
Speaker 2: the Reader Panney Show, and it's time for lefties losing it.
30:53
Speaker 2: I've always said the most racist, bigoted folk in the
30:57
Speaker 2: West are the modern left. Shameless about it. Their race
31:01
Speaker 2: obsessions are frankly sick, and so much of what they
31:05
Speaker 2: do is projection. They accuse their political opponents of what
31:09
Speaker 2: they themselves are guilty of. And here is another example.
31:13
Speaker 2: Watch these anti ice activists call a black agent the
31:17
Speaker 2: N word after accusing him of ripping people from their families.
31:24
Speaker 9: Like we should rip people appost from their family?
31:26
Speaker 4: Are you a man?
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Speaker 10: Wow?
31:29
Speaker 4: Wow?
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Speaker 9: Is that a question?
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Speaker 2: Wow?
31:31
Speaker 9: Okay? People? Why are you calling a woman a man?
31:53
Speaker 2: They use the N word there at least three times,
31:57
Speaker 2: and they seemed extra angry that we asked, quite reasonably
32:01
Speaker 2: if the dude in the dress was a man. Apparently,
32:03
Speaker 2: misgendering a man pretending to be a woman means you
32:07
Speaker 2: can be called the inward repeatedly. Let's check in with
32:10
Speaker 2: a male nurse now, who seems to be advocating for
32:13
Speaker 2: all sorts of behaviors that would be a breach of
32:16
Speaker 2: the hippocratic growth.
32:18
Speaker 3: Remember how much power nurses have in this country. One
32:23
Speaker 3: of our own was just murdered in the street. So
32:31
Speaker 3: we might be able to stop this somehow. The type
32:34
Speaker 3: of ice you nurse I was, I was cardiac ice
32:36
Speaker 3: you nurse, and I did a lot of time, lots
32:40
Speaker 3: of hours holding on a growing that wouldn't stop bleeding.
32:44
Speaker 3: Let me tell you what that for moral artery? The
32:51
Speaker 3: vasculator in the leg it really bleeds bleeds. Well, someone
32:55
Speaker 3: could bleed up very quickly from that, probably like a
32:58
Speaker 3: couple of minutes.
32:59
Speaker 1: Really, when I.
33:00
Speaker 2: Tell you these people are nuts, I'm not kidding. Nuts
33:04
Speaker 2: and nasty and with a false sense of moral superiority.
33:10
Speaker 3: I would really suggest to other healthcare organizations out there
33:13
Speaker 3: that if you have knowingly MAGA employees, that you terminate them.
33:21
Speaker 3: They're not safe people to take care of other people.
33:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the MAGA nurses and doctors that are a
33:27
Speaker 2: threat to patients. What was I saying before about projection?
33:30
Speaker 2: That's all the left have these days, lies and projection.
33:34
Speaker 2: And earlier today the dude their Chad lost his job.
33:39
Speaker 2: Thank god, you know, after that vileness, let's have a
33:42
Speaker 2: little fun. This next clip has sent the online left
33:46
Speaker 2: into fits of unbridled rage. I can't imagine why. What
33:50
Speaker 2: could be more delightful than a Nicki Minaj Scott percent collapse.
34:12
Speaker 2: I did not think would see a Minaj collaboration with
34:15
Speaker 2: the Treasury Secretary in my lifetime, but here we are,
34:19
Speaker 2: and we were treated to this delightful pairing as well.
34:23
Speaker 2: That's my favorite president. The best president of all.
34:28
Speaker 4: Times, and I'm with the Queen of rap.
34:32
Speaker 2: You know, the president seems much happier in the company
34:36
Speaker 2: of superstarnik In Minaj than members of the media, including
34:40
Speaker 2: the perpetually miserable CNN anchor Caitlin Collins. Watch this exchange
34:45
Speaker 2: from earlier today.
34:47
Speaker 1: What do you say.
34:51
Speaker 11: You have a worst reporter? No wonder see Shena has
34:54
Speaker 11: no ratings because of people like you. You know, she's
34:57
Speaker 11: a young woman. I don't think I've ever seen you smile. I'
35:00
Speaker 11: know you for ten years. I don't think I've ever
35:02
Speaker 11: seen a smile smiling because you know, you're not telling
35:07
Speaker 11: the truth and you're you're a very dishonest organization and
35:12
Speaker 11: they should be ashamed of you.
35:14
Speaker 2: Now, Nicki Minaj has put the issue of voter ID
35:17
Speaker 2: back on the agenda, and the latest polling is clear
35:20
Speaker 2: people of all colors, backgrounds, and political persuasions want to
35:25
Speaker 2: see voter ID, except the hard left that dominate the media,
35:29
Speaker 2: political and activist class. Even CNN has had to admit
35:33
Speaker 2: that the overwhelming majority of Americans want voter ID.
35:37
Speaker 12: Eighty three percent in the last year of Americans agree
35:41
Speaker 12: with Nicki Minaj. They favor photo ID to be able
35:45
Speaker 12: to vote.
35:46
Speaker 4: What about by party? What's the party breaking?
35:47
Speaker 12: Yeah, and normally you might expect, hey, there'd be a
35:49
Speaker 12: big divide by party, but Republicans really forwarding, Democrats really
35:53
Speaker 12: against it.
35:54
Speaker 4: But not really here. I mean, just take a look.
35:56
Speaker 12: Here, favorite photo idea voute You got ninety five percent
35:58
Speaker 12: of Republicans, pretty much all of but even seventy one
36:01
Speaker 12: percent of Democrats favorite photo IDA votes.
36:05
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, that all seems rather emphatic. But what about
36:09
Speaker 2: the racial background, because that's what the left has been
36:12
Speaker 2: arguing for years, the voter ID is racist.
36:16
Speaker 12: Eighty five percent of white people favorite, eighty two percent
36:19
Speaker 12: of Latino, seventy six percent of Black Americans favorite. So
36:23
Speaker 12: the bottom line is this voter ID is not controversial
36:26
Speaker 12: in this country. A photo ID to vote is not
36:29
Speaker 12: controversial in this country. It is not controversial by party,
36:32
Speaker 12: and it is not controversial by race. The vast majority
36:35
Speaker 12: of Americans agree with Nicki Minaj that, in fact, you
36:38
Speaker 12: should have a photo ID to be able to vote.
36:41
Speaker 2: Wow, eighty two percent of Latino and seventy six percent
36:45
Speaker 2: of black voters favor voter ID. And yet the left
36:49
Speaker 2: will argue it is racist and designed to stop minorities
36:53
Speaker 2: from voting. Let's have a look at how the left
36:56
Speaker 2: view minority voters and voter id The casual bigotry you're
37:00
Speaker 2: a back to here is astounding. This is the bigotry
37:05
Speaker 2: of low expectations.
37:07
Speaker 4: Do you have an opinion of voter id laws.
37:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're usually pretty racist and they're bad.
37:13
Speaker 11: I think voter ideal laws are a way to perpetuate racism.
37:16
Speaker 4: Would you say there, would you go as far as
37:18
Speaker 4: those laws are racist?
37:19
Speaker 9: For sure?
37:20
Speaker 4: Do you think it suppresses doing after American votes?
37:22
Speaker 13: Definitely, because they're less likely to have state ideas.
37:27
Speaker 10: Minority voters are less likely to have the kinds of
37:30
Speaker 10: ideas that have been described or required.
37:34
Speaker 3: These type of people don't live in areas with easy
37:38
Speaker 3: access to d mds.
37:39
Speaker 4: Or other places where then get identification. You can always
37:41
Speaker 4: get ideas you do over the internet. Is that also
37:44
Speaker 4: make it difficult for black people in particular?
37:46
Speaker 10: Yeah, you have to have access to the internet. You
37:48
Speaker 10: have to be able to pay an Internet service provider
37:50
Speaker 10: for certain fees.
37:51
Speaker 4: Do you think that's harder for black people to go online?
37:54
Speaker 13: Well, I feel like they don't have the knowledge of
37:55
Speaker 13: how of like how it works.
37:57
Speaker 2: A lot of people have smartphones, we might have data.
38:00
Speaker 14: Most of the communities they don't really know what is
38:02
Speaker 14: out there just because they're not aware or like they're
38:04
Speaker 14: not in forum. I also think there's a repression of
38:06
Speaker 14: like black voting with how they how if you're a
38:10
Speaker 14: convicted pelan, like you're not allowed to vote and everything.
38:12
Speaker 14: And when you look at swing steads like Florida, that's
38:16
Speaker 14: a huge population of the of the like African Americans.
38:21
Speaker 2: Okay, let me get this straight. According to the left,
38:24
Speaker 2: people of color are either too dumb or too poor
38:28
Speaker 2: to have ID or their criminals. Let's bring in the
38:32
Speaker 2: man behind that Voxpop documentary filmmaker and commentator Army Horoid's Army.
38:37
Speaker 2: Before I get your input, let's have a look at
38:40
Speaker 2: you and East Harlem speaking to black folk about what
38:44
Speaker 2: white leftists think of their ability to get ID.
38:47
Speaker 4: Do you carry ID?
38:48
Speaker 2: Yes?
38:49
Speaker 3: I do.
38:49
Speaker 4: Do you know anybody who any black person doesn't carry idea?
38:52
Speaker 11: No?
38:52
Speaker 9: And one that I know had ID.
38:54
Speaker 4: Why would they think we don't have ID.
38:57
Speaker 2: That's a lie.
38:58
Speaker 4: Why would they say.
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Speaker 13: That do you have yes?
39:01
Speaker 10: Because I have my ID and my friends have their ideas,
39:03
Speaker 10: So we know what we need to carry around?
39:05
Speaker 4: Do everybody that I know have ID?
39:07
Speaker 5: Like, that's one of the things you need to walk
39:09
Speaker 5: around with New York with ID.
39:11
Speaker 4: Do you know any black adult who does not have ID?
39:14
Speaker 7: No?
39:14
Speaker 2: I don't.
39:16
Speaker 4: Is it a weird thing to even say that?
39:17
Speaker 2: Yes?
39:18
Speaker 11: It is?
39:19
Speaker 2: How many it is a weird thing to say. But
39:22
Speaker 2: here we are with the Democrats and the propagandist in
39:25
Speaker 2: the media claiming veroter id is inherently racist?
39:31
Speaker 4: Yeah? Who was that young handsome man on camera?
39:34
Speaker 9: Wow?
39:34
Speaker 4: I fairly recognize him anymore?
39:38
Speaker 13: You know, not to pat myself on the back, but
39:42
Speaker 13: that that video has over a quarter of a billion views.
39:45
Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, well I guess I will pack myself
39:48
Speaker 4: in the bag. What do you.
39:51
Speaker 2: Deserves a pat?
39:52
Speaker 4: Thank you? You know? A little background that video? Do
39:55
Speaker 4: we Not?
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Speaker 13: Only is it crazy how they've made the argument that
40:00
Speaker 13: voter idea is racist, and that's really the argument the left,
40:03
Speaker 13: not the entire left, not just like the radical left,
40:05
Speaker 13: but the mainstream democratic left is made. It's also they
40:09
Speaker 13: deny that there's voter fraud out there. And the reason
40:11
Speaker 13: why I made that video originally is because I was
40:15
Speaker 13: going to vote and in Los Angeles at the time,
40:19
Speaker 13: and my father had died just like six seven months
40:22
Speaker 13: prior to that, and I went to vote and his
40:26
Speaker 13: name was on the voter rolls, okay, which I wasn't
40:28
Speaker 13: crazy because you know, he just died if I don't
40:30
Speaker 13: know how long it takes them to read the vote roles,
40:32
Speaker 13: but somebody had voted for him, right, there's a check
40:36
Speaker 13: margin next to name. And I said to the guy, go,
40:38
Speaker 13: my father died.
40:39
Speaker 4: He's dead.
40:40
Speaker 13: Somebody came in, gave his name, gave his address because
40:44
Speaker 13: he looked that up, and they voted for him.
40:46
Speaker 4: And that's what inspired me.
40:48
Speaker 13: To do that video because there's massive, massive amount of
40:52
Speaker 13: voter fraud out there, and voter ida were eliminating a
40:55
Speaker 13: lot of that. But yeah, the racism of the left
40:59
Speaker 13: is unfull display there. They couldn't imagine black people have
41:03
Speaker 13: the ability to vote, to have I to think like
41:06
Speaker 13: a like a white person, right, That's that's the entire
41:10
Speaker 13: ethos of the left. And you know, you know it's
41:13
Speaker 13: always about the left often mistakes and conflates a.
41:18
Speaker 4: Class and race. They do that a lot.
41:21
Speaker 13: And the pushback I had gotten that video every time
41:23
Speaker 13: I was doing interviews from the left was saying, well,
41:25
Speaker 13: if you went to rural Alabama, they wouldn't have the
41:29
Speaker 13: same perspective because it's harder for them to go to
41:32
Speaker 13: get id I go, but rule Alabama or rural North
41:36
Speaker 13: Carolina are mostly poor white people.
41:39
Speaker 4: It's about poverty level, not about race.
41:42
Speaker 13: But by the way, just as an aside, even people
41:45
Speaker 13: in rural Alabama all have id this is a This
41:49
Speaker 13: is a almost universal.
41:50
Speaker 4: Thing that people have ID.
41:51
Speaker 13: Yet I thank the left for that readA because I've
41:54
Speaker 13: created a kind of a cottage industry doing videos about
41:57
Speaker 13: how the left is race is about black people.
42:00
Speaker 4: People were to come to obesty, I.
42:01
Speaker 13: Remember the Obese video, same kind of idea, and they
42:04
Speaker 13: told me the reason why there's moral beast in the
42:06
Speaker 13: black community is because black people stress eat because of
42:11
Speaker 13: so much racism.
42:12
Speaker 4: And of course I went to Harlem and they laughed
42:13
Speaker 4: at that. I kid you not. I couldn't make that up.
42:15
Speaker 13: Right, or defund the police and call the people on
42:18
Speaker 13: the left for saying defund the police is wonderful. I
42:20
Speaker 13: go to Harlem to go no, no, please, We're the
42:23
Speaker 13: last people wont to fund the police. So yeah, this
42:25
Speaker 13: is a hallmark of the left.
42:27
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
42:29
Speaker 2: Now we're gonna go to a quick break. But when
42:32
Speaker 2: we come back, Army is going to rejoin, and we're
42:35
Speaker 2: going to talk about Don Lemon and Jimmy Kimmel getting
42:38
Speaker 2: together and two bigger victim playing attention see, because you
42:42
Speaker 2: will not find welcome back. Let's check in now on
42:55
Speaker 2: Don Lemon, who appeared with Jimmy Kimmel and two bigger
42:59
Speaker 2: victim playing attention see, because you will not find they.
43:02
Speaker 1: Wouldn't have to have all these people following me around.
43:05
Speaker 1: It's more than just a waste of resources. So they
43:07
Speaker 1: grab you and they take you where.
43:09
Speaker 3: Well, you're right about more than just a waste of resources.
43:11
Speaker 1: They want that.
43:12
Speaker 3: They want to embarrass you, they want to intimidate you,
43:14
Speaker 3: they want to instill fear, and so that's why they
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Speaker 3: did it that way.
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Speaker 2: I got to say, Don Lemon is loving this. He
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Speaker 2: hasn't had this much attention for years.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 2: Let's hear from La Mayor Karen Bass, who claims that
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Speaker 2: Don Lemon being arrested for storming a church during Sunday
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Speaker 2: service is somehow a racial matter.
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Speaker 15: I have a particular message to Black America that it's
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Speaker 15: interesting that I believe the journalists that were arrested all
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Speaker 15: look like me and you ten seconds and so this
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Speaker 15: is not the first time this has happened. As a
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Speaker 15: matter of fact, the journalist that is with me, Jasmine,
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Speaker 15: was arrested a few years ago.
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Speaker 2: Armie, what's your response to that? Is there a racial
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Speaker 2: element in the execution of don Lemon?
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Speaker 4: God?
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Speaker 13: No, Look, Karen Bass is low key one of the
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Speaker 13: worst mayors in America.
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Speaker 4: We don't talk about her enough. Is the problem.
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Speaker 13: We talked about a lot of I'm Donnie. We talked
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Speaker 13: about in the Mayor Chicago Brandon. Yeah, we gotta talk
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Speaker 13: a little more about in the my resolution in twenty
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Speaker 13: twenty six, talk more about Karen Bass.
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Speaker 4: It's a horrible, absolutely horrible mayor.
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Speaker 13: Look, I know, it seems like I'm gonna let people
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Speaker 13: on to the kimono a little bit here for the show.
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Speaker 13: I know, it seems like that when I do this,
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Speaker 13: like a fifteen minute interview every week, that I just
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Speaker 13: kind of sit down, pop down, and then I just drop,
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Speaker 13: you know, you know, knowledge.
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Speaker 4: All across the place.
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Speaker 13: But the reality is I do show prep. Okay, that's
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Speaker 13: the truth. And yeah, look, she's kind of right that.
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Speaker 13: In twenty twenty five, under Trump thirty two journalists were
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Speaker 13: arrested by Donald Trump. Yeah, by the that is absolutely true.
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Speaker 13: Problem was, in twenty twenty four, forty nine journalists were
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Speaker 13: arrested under the Biden administration. So I didn't not sure
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Speaker 13: that narrative actually works for her. Look, the truth is
45:09
Speaker 13: is that Don Lemon all full disclosure, kind of a
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Speaker 13: friend of mine.
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Speaker 4: I like Don.
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Speaker 13: We talked on the phone a lot. We obviously are
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Speaker 13: very different people. And I'm not gonna and this is
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Speaker 13: not our friendship. Is not going to color my next point.
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Speaker 13: But I got to tell you. And by the way,
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Speaker 13: he is loving it. Of course, my god, after he
45:24
Speaker 13: was fired from Sin and he's never been more popular.
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Speaker 13: Of course, this was a godsend for him. Let's be
45:29
Speaker 13: totally honest. Okay, he was the bore of irrelevancy. Sorry Don,
45:34
Speaker 13: and but now he's had this Resurgence's good for him.
45:38
Speaker 13: But the truth is, I don't like I don't think
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Speaker 13: this was a good idea. I think this was a
45:43
Speaker 13: own goal by the chart administration.
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Speaker 4: You're just getting a discression.
45:47
Speaker 13: You're allowing people to to hook their their you know,
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Speaker 13: their their their hook sink their hooks onto an issue
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Speaker 13: which is really relatively irrelevant, and it's moving from the
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Speaker 13: agenda and from what he really wants to accomplished. When
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Speaker 13: they started saying, look, you're arresting journalist Don Lemna, wasn't
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Speaker 13: doing anything. And look, do I think Donalomanic should be arrested.
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Speaker 13: I don't, as somebody who engaged in guerrilla journalism a lot. Yeah,
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Speaker 13: was he there? Did he have fore knowledge? Of course
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Speaker 13: he did. Yes, he knew exactly what was going on,
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Speaker 13: But this is kind of what journalists do. You don't
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Speaker 13: get arrest for going on a ride along with criminals,
46:19
Speaker 13: just kind of the reality.
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Speaker 4: It's a fine line.
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Speaker 13: There's a face act, and he may have crossed that
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Speaker 13: line there, I get it.
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Speaker 4: But the more important thing is, I.
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Speaker 2: Think, but that is that legislation. That legislation exists. I
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Speaker 2: do agree. It's distracting, and you can look at it
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Speaker 2: as an as an own goal because the left is
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Speaker 2: going to run a particular narrative here about the media
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Speaker 2: being oppressed and free speech being breached, all that nonsense.
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Speaker 2: But he, on the face of it, appears to have
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Speaker 2: broken the law. You can't go storming churches during Sunday service,
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Speaker 2: terrifying families, including small children, and then just say I
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Speaker 2: was doing journalism. You wouldn't. You'd be arrested if you
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Speaker 2: did that in a mosque or if it happened really
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Speaker 2: any place other than a church. It seems like anything goes.
47:08
Speaker 2: But let's before you go, I want to get your
47:10
Speaker 2: take on what's happening in New York right now. The
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Speaker 2: new mayor, there's or on Mamdani has overseen a tragic
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Speaker 2: period where sixteen people have died during this cold snap
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Speaker 2: you're having. Mamdani ordered the NYPD not to tear down
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Speaker 2: homeless in campus, and I met that act of so
47:29
Speaker 2: called compassion has arguably contributed to more suffering and the
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Speaker 2: tragic outcome of ten people dead in a single weekend
47:38
Speaker 2: in the freezing cold.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, and unfortunately, get ready for more of that as
47:44
Speaker 13: we go forward, because we're gonna be cutting down on
47:46
Speaker 13: services because we have to, because he's spending a gender
47:49
Speaker 13: so out of whack. He wants to spend one hundred
47:52
Speaker 13: million dollars from transgender healthcare services. Look, I don't know
47:56
Speaker 13: why that has been additional term it can they get
47:58
Speaker 13: regular healthcare services? I don't under stand what's going What
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Speaker 13: is that money for?
48:03
Speaker 4: You know?
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Speaker 13: Another they're calculating almost three billion dollars in lost revenues
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Speaker 13: because he's gonna allow fair jumpers on the subway system
48:11
Speaker 13: and he wants to make the buses free. All of
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Speaker 13: these things are going to bring the New York economy
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Speaker 13: to a standstill, okay, and it's gonna be back to
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Speaker 13: what it was in nineteen seventy five, and the city
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Speaker 13: almost declared bankruptcy, really kind of did, just optically it didn't.
48:26
Speaker 13: And that led to five thousand police officers that were
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Speaker 13: cut back, six thousand firefighters. Imagine the loss of life then,
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Speaker 13: and what will happen now if we have to do
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Speaker 13: that again?
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Speaker 4: And we will have to do.
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Speaker 13: That again because he is spending money, spending priorities are
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Speaker 13: like a leftist Marxist.
48:44
Speaker 4: And by the way, and and and.
48:46
Speaker 13: Addition to that, wait until he tries to bring and
48:49
Speaker 13: he's what he's trying to do is bring more real estate,
48:52
Speaker 13: more apartments in New York under the the rubric under
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Speaker 13: the federal government. As we know, the federal government is
48:58
Speaker 13: great and making sure that people have heat in the wintertime,
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Speaker 13: eertishing in the summertime. Just a lot of people live
49:04
Speaker 13: in housing developments all across the New York City, what
49:06
Speaker 13: it's like in the wintertime, in the summertime.
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Speaker 4: So we're gonna see a lot more of this. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 4: you know what army.
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Speaker 2: You voted for it, and you're gonna get it. And
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Speaker 2: my sympathy levels are at an all time low because
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Speaker 2: you have a choice here and you keep voting in
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Speaker 2: these dangerous hard lefties in Horowitz. Thanks for your time tonight,
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Speaker 2: and that's all the time we've got. I'll see you
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Speaker 2: at eleven tomorrow night. Newsnight is up next.