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Encore: GBF- Crab Cakes and Baseball (w/ Mel Kiper) · Stugotz and Company

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  Speaker 1: The great Mel kiper Jr. Is with us. He was
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  Speaker 1: the star of the NFL Draft. He always is. We'll
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  Speaker 1: get to the draft. At a second, I was trying
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  Speaker 1: to log onto the internet. I felt like melkuiper Jr.
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  Speaker 1: For just a minute there because I couldn't get connected.
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  Speaker 1: But it's on me. It's not it's not on Mel,
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  Speaker 1: but Mel, it makes me happy. How happy it makes
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  Speaker 1: you to see me? I mean, this is a career highlight.
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  Speaker 1: It really is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it should well be. I got a lot of
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  Speaker 2: words of describes to I said, Uplifting is the word,
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  Speaker 2: because he's always a great mood. When are you ever
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  Speaker 2: not happy about talking about sports or something related to it?
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  Speaker 2: So it's it's to me when I know I'm coming
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  Speaker 2: on with you guys, I know I'm gonna be feeling
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  Speaker 2: good during it and thereafter. So it's something I really
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  Speaker 2: look forward to.
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  Speaker 1: To answer your question about when I'm not happy, it's
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  Speaker 1: usually around three forty five every single Sunday during the
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  Speaker 1: football season, watch watching the Jets. Yes, I thought.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna say about one fifteen after kicking, but it
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  Speaker 2: goes awry, right, Yeah, it's amazing. You gotta wait till
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  Speaker 2: three forty five hope this year you have to wait
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  Speaker 2: till three forty five, when some of these games are decided,
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  Speaker 2: you might give you a little little hope for the future.
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  Speaker 2: So if you can at least get the quarter to
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  Speaker 2: four Eastern time.
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  Speaker 1: Perhaps he is so close to a boat, He is
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  Speaker 1: so close to crab cakes, He is so close to
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  Speaker 1: baseball season. He could smell You could smell it right now.
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  Speaker 2: I mean orange crushes, old bays everywhere. Then I got
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  Speaker 2: the old base season everywhere there. You put old Bay
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  Speaker 2: on anything, you can put it on anything, It's gonna
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  Speaker 2: taste great. So, yes, we got the crab cakes, we
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  Speaker 2: got the old Bay, we got the orange crushes. We're
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  Speaker 2: just ready to have a good time.
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  Speaker 1: Well, speaking of crab cakes, as I was trying to
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  Speaker 1: connect to the internet in a radio studio, I heard
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  Speaker 1: mikey A and you having some sort of argument about crabcakes.
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  Speaker 1: Mikey A, What was the genesis of this argument? What
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  Speaker 1: happened here?
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  Speaker 3: So Mel is known for three things in his off season,
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  Speaker 3: which is the summer, and that is crabcakes, orange crushes,
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  Speaker 3: and the boat. Yes, and obviously put me on a
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  Speaker 3: boat with Mel Kuiper, and I'm gonna have a great time.
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  Speaker 3: I think orange crushes are some of the best cocktails
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  Speaker 3: you can have all summer long. But I'm not a
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  Speaker 3: crabcake guy.
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  Speaker 2: And Mel was like, you probably just didn't have the
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  Speaker 2: right one. I was a little offended, was the word?
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  Speaker 2: A little offended? Here at the Land of Pleasant Living,
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  Speaker 2: Mikey would have a problem crabcake. I just said, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you gotta get for the right place. I said, when
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  Speaker 2: you come whenever you decide you want to come to
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  Speaker 2: the Maryland, like I said to the Land of Pleasant Living,
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  Speaker 2: I will make sure, Mikey, we get you some crab
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  Speaker 2: cakes from variety of places. And you can decide whether
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  Speaker 2: you just don't like crab cakes in general, or you
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  Speaker 2: didn't like crabcakes. Where the establishment was you got it
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  Speaker 2: when you were here, what two three years ago? Whenever?
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  Speaker 1: It was all right? So is this an invite to
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  Speaker 1: your house or somewhere close to your house, which.
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  Speaker 2: One anywhere in Maryland. I will meet up with you, guys.
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  Speaker 2: But you and by the way, just so you know,
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  Speaker 2: the dress in DC next year. So I expect you
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  Speaker 2: guys to be somewhere close by. You're gonna have plenty
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  Speaker 2: of crab cakes. Next year if you come you decided
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  Speaker 2: to be part of the twenty twenty seven NFL draft.
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  Speaker 1: A little home game from mel you get an extra
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  Speaker 1: room for me or huh.
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  Speaker 2: We could everybody welcome?
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  Speaker 1: Yes? Well, I was outraged because mcshaye told us he's
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  Speaker 1: been invited to uh to the Malkiper compound and I
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  Speaker 1: have not been invited. But I told you.
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  Speaker 2: By the way I invited. Heyt I invite all these guys.
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  Speaker 2: McShay got about one hundred invites. And how many times
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  Speaker 2: it's been here zero? Okay? Zero? You can't say because
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  Speaker 2: of the lack of an invite right now, many times
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  Speaker 2: mcshay's invited me up there to Boston?
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  Speaker 1: How many does zero? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So it's a one way street with McShay. That's
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  Speaker 2: just the way it is. But I'm okay with that.
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  Speaker 2: But in terms of moving forward, guys, yes, I expect
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  Speaker 2: I expect you guys to be able to watch wedding
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  Speaker 2: crashers and realize what the favorite food served at wedding
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  Speaker 2: crashers was. Okay, like you know it was crabcakes. Who
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  Speaker 2: who don't love crabcakes? Right?
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  Speaker 1: Yes? Tailor put it on the phone.
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  Speaker 2: Who thought mikey A doesn't like crabcakes, but that's what
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  Speaker 2: sort of fine. We're going to change that. That's my
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  Speaker 2: goal was to change that in twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, he likes them if they have bacon on him.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Mel, you're from Baltimore. You love all things Baltimore,
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  Speaker 1: you love the Baltimore Ravens. And I know you don't
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  Speaker 1: want to praise Pittsburgh, but I am wondering, from your standpoint,
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  Speaker 1: how was Pittsburgh as a host city for the NFL Draft,
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  Speaker 1: Because I have to tell you, Mel, it looked amazing.
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  Speaker 2: I was a little nervous going in because I'm a
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  Speaker 2: raven guy and a lot of everybody everybody in Pittsburgh
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  Speaker 2: knows that from my I did the Late Great Myron
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  Speaker 2: Coke Show back in the day. Everybody knew I was
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  Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens and Baltimore Colts before that. So when we
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  Speaker 2: went there, it was amazing. Yeah. I thought Green Bay incredible.
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  Speaker 2: The people that are so welcoming and so nice and
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  Speaker 2: so respectful. Pittsburgh was equally what Green Bay was. And
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  Speaker 2: I had my purple, had my purple one. Day one,
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  Speaker 2: purple one, and day two didn't matter. I had nothing
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  Speaker 2: thrown at me, nothing yelled at me, nothing to Raga,
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  Speaker 2: Toy said. They were just happy to talk football. They
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  Speaker 2: loved the rivalry of Baltimore and Pittsburgh. They embrace it.
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  Speaker 2: They have fun with it, and it was great. It
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  Speaker 2: was a tremendous venue of record setting amount of people
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  Speaker 2: came out. Thanks to Pittsburgh Steel City for everything that
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  Speaker 2: they meant for the whole year, just to build up
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  Speaker 2: to the draft. You know, we think it's Draft Day,
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  Speaker 2: three days. That's a build up and right now there's
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  Speaker 2: signs up I'm sure over in DC. Hey, drafts coming
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  Speaker 2: up in twenty twenty seven. Then we'll know this summer
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  Speaker 2: address going be in twenty eight, twenty nine, Okay, moving
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  Speaker 2: forward after that, So everybody's vying now, there's like ten
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  Speaker 2: to twelve cities that are vying for drafts moving forward.
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  Speaker 2: So it's amazing that somebody had said this week that
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  Speaker 2: it feels like the super Bowl when you're at the draft.
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  Speaker 1: Crazy.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like that's the type of environment for Jets fans. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: well that's their super Bowl. Yea. Again, for a lot
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  Speaker 2: of teams, keep in mind, there's twelve teams that have
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  Speaker 2: never won a super Bowl. Guys, twelve teams have never
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  Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl out of the thirty two. So
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  Speaker 2: this notion at a just because you've been there doesn't
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  Speaker 2: mean you won it. A lot of you know, twelve
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  Speaker 2: have some of those twelve have been there, but they
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  Speaker 2: never won it. So twelve teams are still trying to
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  Speaker 2: get their first super Bowl win. So it's not just
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  Speaker 2: you know, like I say, it's not just you know,
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  Speaker 2: a fan base here, a fan base there. There's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of fan bases that are just screaming, Hey, in Baltimore,
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  Speaker 2: we had two. We had two. We had Trent Dilfer,
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  Speaker 2: we had Joe Flacco, so you know, we had Brian Billock,
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  Speaker 2: we had John Harball. So again, you know, people think
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  Speaker 2: it's easy. It's not easy when twelve teams have yet
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  Speaker 2: to win a super Bowl in NFL history.
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  Speaker 1: Mel I'm glad you brought up the attendance because I
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  Speaker 1: was thinking about this as I was watching you on
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  Speaker 1: the draft coverage. You're a pioneer. You started this thing,
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  Speaker 1: and to see over eight hundred thousand people flood to
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  Speaker 1: a city to watch the NFL Draft something you believed
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  Speaker 1: in when no one else did. You saw the market.
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  Speaker 1: You knew the market for this thing, you knew how
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  Speaker 1: popular it was. I was thinking, Wow, Mel must be
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  Speaker 1: filled with pride just knowing that there were over eight
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  Speaker 1: hundred thousand people attending this event.
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  Speaker 2: It is amazing. You really lose sight of that's too,
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  Speaker 2: and then when you bring it up, it brings back
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  Speaker 2: memories because back in the day we were at the
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  Speaker 2: Marriott Marquee, the Grand ballroom of the Marriot Marquis were
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  Speaker 2: like five hundred people there, that's it. But you saw
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  Speaker 2: the energy of those five hundred. You saw them wearing
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  Speaker 2: a variety of jerseys representing just about every team in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL. When we would walk to the draft when
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  Speaker 2: it was at Radio City, say the Radio City prior
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  Speaker 2: to leaving New York going to I believe Chicago. Yes, okay,
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  Speaker 2: you would be walking to the draft at Radio City
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  Speaker 2: and they'd be lined up and screaming, Hey, who's this
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  Speaker 2: team that to take? Who's this team gonna take? And
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  Speaker 2: I knew it from my own draft reports. I knew
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  Speaker 2: that back in nineteen seventy nine, eighty eighty one. There
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  Speaker 2: was so much interest in just my draft report, long
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  Speaker 2: before people thought there'd be an interest in the NFL
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  Speaker 2: Draft and the ratings would be through the roof and
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  Speaker 2: people be lining up and have almost a million people
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  Speaker 2: attending a draft. But to to say that I could
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  Speaker 2: ever have seen it this get to this point, I
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  Speaker 2: did see it getting this point. I really did. He
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  Speaker 2: said in the draft, there's two things. There's two things
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  Speaker 2: in my life I've been writing about, and Mikey knows
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  Speaker 2: one of them. It's Kim Kaiper. I went one for
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  Speaker 2: one in that department, right, and I h hit the
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  Speaker 2: ball out of the park. I overachieved by miles. I said,
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  Speaker 2: if you're ever going to go overachieve in life, overachieved marriage.
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  Speaker 2: I did with Kim and then the draft. I did
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  Speaker 2: predict this look before Kim came along. I was right
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  Speaker 2: on the draft. Then Kim came along, and she used
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  Speaker 2: to get me shrimp cocktail at the draft back in
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  Speaker 2: nineteen eighty nine, which rat was picked. We were just
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  Speaker 2: ready to We were not yet engaged. That was in April.
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  Speaker 2: We got engaged in May. We got married in November.
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  Speaker 2: So even prior to the engagement, Kim was at the
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  Speaker 2: draft with Troy Aikman, having a great time and enjoying it.
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  Speaker 2: But who at that point did you think it could
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  Speaker 2: go on the road? I did. I was the one
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  Speaker 2: thought it should have been on the road. Why are
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  Speaker 2: we not tickets? Super Bowls are everywhere? Right? Why not?
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  Speaker 2: Was at the NFL Draft everywhere. I envisioned it being
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  Speaker 2: in stadiums, but that would have been a limitation to
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  Speaker 2: only however many people. You can prefer to a stadium
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  Speaker 2: now when you put it outside like this, Like I said,
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  Speaker 2: Nashville was amazing. Every you we've been to has been amazing.
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  Speaker 2: I would say Nashville was my number one. Green Bay
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  Speaker 2: was extraordinary, Pittsburgh was right there. Yeah, I loved them all,
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  Speaker 2: but I would say Nashville still was my number one.
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  Speaker 2: But these every other city has been right there with them,
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  Speaker 2: pretty dog going close. And Pittsburgh dide an incredible job.
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  Speaker 2: And luckily guys I brought think about it, I brought
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  Speaker 2: a big heavy overcoat with me to the draft and
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  Speaker 2: not to the draft to Pittsburgh. That stayed in my
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  Speaker 2: room the whole time, which was great. We were at
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  Speaker 2: like sixty five degrees even at night. We need air
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  Speaker 2: conditioning at our set. Can you believe at the first
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  Speaker 2: two days air conditioning They three Cooperative didn't need anything.
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  Speaker 2: Beautiful weather, probably the best weather we may have ever
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  Speaker 2: had was in Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 3: Amazing, Mel, I want to get to some of the
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  Speaker 3: picks from from this from this past draft, talking about
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  Speaker 3: this where it should go and all that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about being a pioneer. I mean, come on,
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  Speaker 1: we get.
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  Speaker 3: So much time with Mel and you're talking about Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 2: I got another hour and a.
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  Speaker 1: Half and I'll take the full hour to half. I
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  Speaker 1: will let me go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: Well, nobody questions how much you watch these players and
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  Speaker 3: how you are able to evaluate them. But after the
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  Speaker 3: draft is over, I'm curious what player went to what
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  Speaker 3: team that you said, that's a perfect fit for that guy.
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  Speaker 2: McKay lemon to Philadelphia. Wow, just because of the Eagles
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  Speaker 2: getting him, getting him the Pittsburgh try was talking to
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  Speaker 2: McKay lemon. When Philadelphia, you and all this was going
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  Speaker 2: on in Philadelphia, Win traded up with Dallas, if you
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  Speaker 2: can believe it, Inner Division trade crazy with Dallas, allowing
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  Speaker 2: Philadelphia to get mackay lemon right ahead of the Eagle.
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  Speaker 2: The Steelers, who were ready to take it, looked like
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  Speaker 2: McKay lemon. So it was an amazing turn of events there.
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  Speaker 2: But to go to the Eagles with all that talent,
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  Speaker 2: and Mikayle Lemon can can do everything. I mean you
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  Speaker 2: talk about run after catch, he snatches the ball with
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  Speaker 2: his hands plays as the word I use was fierce.
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  Speaker 2: Love everything about him. The Caleb Down is going to
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  Speaker 2: Dallas is exactly what they need. So I'll go offense
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  Speaker 2: and defense. Answer your question, Mikey, Offense will be Lemon,
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  Speaker 2: defense will be Downs, because what is what is? What
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  Speaker 2: did the Dallas Cowboys have breakdowns everywhere? I'm sitting there,
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  Speaker 2: if I'm Jerry Jones and I'm up in my in
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  Speaker 2: my suite right and I'm watching my team back in friends,
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  Speaker 2: I call to go down and get a touchdown? Oh
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  Speaker 2: so happy, Give me my orange crush, Give me another
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  Speaker 2: crab cake before I keep it. Take a bite of
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  Speaker 2: that crab cake. The other team scored, right, okay, And
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  Speaker 2: then I say, I got another touchdown. Okay, I'll try
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  Speaker 2: to get another bite. Before I get my second bite,
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  Speaker 2: the other team scored again. Then they scored again. They're
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  Speaker 2: still scoring, right, So that's what Dallas had to do
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  Speaker 2: was fix the defense. Five of their seven picks for
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  Speaker 2: defense let off by Caleb Downs, who is the smartest
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  Speaker 2: player Nick sabans ever coach. He's an alpha. He does
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  Speaker 2: not telling to tolerate losing. He's not gonna tolerate mistakes.
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  Speaker 2: He's gonna raise everybody's performance level up. Okay, and that's
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  Speaker 2: what it does. I see what I say, stupid, there,
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  Speaker 2: I get, and I get. I get fired up right
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  Speaker 2: because I know you guys love talking about this stuff
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  Speaker 2: and have fun with it. So it's an energizing ability
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  Speaker 2: that Caleb has in addition to an expectation level to say,
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  Speaker 2: you better not be the last man in the building,
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  Speaker 2: you better not be the first guy off the practice field,
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  Speaker 2: you better not make a mistake during mental error. He's
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  Speaker 2: gonna demand excellence, Caleb Downs will, and I think that's
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  Speaker 2: what Dallas needs and that's what they got. So that's
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  Speaker 2: my offense, Makai Lemon, My defense is Caleb Downs.
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  Speaker 4: Now, a lot of people have a hard time when
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  Speaker 4: people say the Jets or the Browns won the draft
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  Speaker 4: just because they're bad franchises and the picks really haven't
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  Speaker 4: translated to wins. But what team would you say raise
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  Speaker 4: their sealing the most with a strong draft.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I do that to mention the Browns. I think
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  Speaker 2: Andrew Berry. He did it last year by moving down.
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  Speaker 2: He did it again this year and he ended up
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  Speaker 2: with Spencer Fono when he could add any one of
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  Speaker 2: the four offensive linemen. So what he's done is allow
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  Speaker 2: I believe Shador Sanders, who played well last year as
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  Speaker 2: a rookie despite people saying he did not. This is
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  Speaker 2: the thing. There was an article written last year. I
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  Speaker 2: get back from the draft guy and I see an
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  Speaker 2: article and I just have to stumble upon it because
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  Speaker 2: I'm not looking for this nonsense. But I stumbled upon it.
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  Speaker 2: It said something to the effect of Kuiper had Patrick
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  Speaker 2: Mahomes rated as the fifth best quarterback and the draft
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  Speaker 2: the year he came out, and he had some guy
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  Speaker 2: who went laid ahead of him. I said, wait, that's
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  Speaker 2: not true. So I checked with my guys at the
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  Speaker 2: ESPN to make sure I'm not out of my mind, right, Okay, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: And it was obviously not true, and it was from
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  Speaker 2: some rating a couple of years before or before the season.
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  Speaker 2: It was I don't know where this guy grabs found
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  Speaker 2: this to try to make me look bad. Patrick Mahomes
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  Speaker 2: I was raving about on the draft the draft day
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  Speaker 2: where they played the clip of pat when everybody else
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  Speaker 2: was against Patrick Mahomes and negative one Patrick Mahomes will
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  Speaker 2: So again I had to read that nonsense from this person.
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  Speaker 2: And then this year there's an article written about me
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  Speaker 2: saying that when am I ever going to shut up
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  Speaker 2: about Shador Sanders and I not watch I always didn't
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  Speaker 2: watch any of games last year. Well, I watched. Now
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  Speaker 2: you can tell me I don't know what I'm looking,
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  Speaker 2: but don't tell me I didn't watch it. Okay, I
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  Speaker 2: get a look, I don't have a problem somebody out
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  Speaker 2: you don't know what the hell you're looking at. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but don't tell me I didn't look at it, right, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: So I watched every snap he took for this person
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  Speaker 2: that said that obviously he looked at QBR and other
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  Speaker 2: things that I don't care about and didn't watch the
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  Speaker 2: games obviously, and said that I didn't watch the games.
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  Speaker 2: So this is kind of crap you have to deal
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  Speaker 2: with the day after drafting, you get home me thinking
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  Speaker 2: way for an arche rush of Craft game. You hat
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  Speaker 2: guys writing stuff that's just nonsensical. But hey, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: even mentioned any names because these people don't deserve to
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  Speaker 2: be credited to anything except the fact that they're they
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  Speaker 2: don't know what the heck they're even writing. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: to say that I never saw because I think Shandor
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  Speaker 2: saying it I believe. In short, it means I didn't
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  Speaker 2: watch him play. He went three and four with a
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  Speaker 2: team that had players getting hurt every every time he
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: went out there. He played in the worst weather conditions.
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  Speaker 2: He had a touchdown pass to Jerry Judy off his shoulder.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: It was intercepted, but he probably thought that was an
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: interception that was bad for Chandor he watched it right.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: So these guys that want to make write articles, and
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: everybody does these days, can you at least acomes at
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: least one percent accurate in this particular person's case last
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: year at mahomes this year with that article zero percent accurate?
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: So was the answer.
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: The Browns raised their.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: Sealing Taylor, who's your question now?
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: Who raised their scene.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: That we haven't talked with? Ray there raised their I'm
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: gonna go right to a team in my crab cake
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: land in Baltimore Ravens, Eric the Costa people are mentioned.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: People have mentioned all these different gms, right, Eric, the
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: Costa is one of the top five GMS in the
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: NFL guarantee. So I'll stay here in the land of
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: pleasant living Tailor and I'll go to the Baltimore Ravens.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: They got Ryan Eckley, who was a punter. Well, why
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: it is a punter important because it determines field position right,
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: determines short fields. Who did the Ravens rept Sam Cook
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: pretty good pick right back in the day coming out
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: of Nebraska, late rounder Jordan Stout pretty good fourth round pick,
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: not that long ago out of Penn State because John
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: Hardball took him to the Giants. Right now, we needed
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: a punter. We get Ryan Eckley who can boom them
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: out of Michigan State everything that they needed to get
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: from Venga Awana to Zion Young moving forward, and the
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: tight ends in the fourth round turned to gold like
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: Dennis Pitta, Isaiah Likely, Charlie Kohlar and go on and on.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: The Baltimore Ravens did a really good job. So again,
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: and I'll mention Cleveland as well. I think Andrew Berry
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: did well. But in that afccene North, I think the
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens and Cleveland Browns, you know, did a heck
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: of a job. And I think that's gonna propel Baltimore
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: this year with obviously Jesse Mentor coming in, Declan Doyle
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: was the OC. A lot of changes, a lot of
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: positivity now. I thought the Ravens could be in the
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: super Bowl last year. I think this draft will go
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: a long way and getting in the right back in contention.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: Whether it'll do it or not, who knows. But this
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: will be a draft that we look back on and say,
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: all the areas that they need to hit, they did.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: And I thought those players, if they drafted, were right
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: in line with where we thought they would go based
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: on value.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Mel who else would be in your top five in
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: terms of GMS you said to cost of certain Howie
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Roseman is in there.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Hallie Roseman would be right there. John schneid Er Howie
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Roseman are kind of won in a Don't ask me
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: to separate rate those two.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: You can't.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: So Howie Roseman, John Schneider, Brett Beach with Kansas City, certainly.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: But having Patrick Mahomes helps a GM, doesn't it. I
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: was Patrick Mahomes. I think I could even go to
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: an organization with Patrick Mahomes and that that guy that
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: wrote that article might even agree with me. On that
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: even I globally me he was always wrong about everything
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: could go and maybe be successful with Patrick Mahomes at quarterback.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: So I know he gets mentioned. Beach does as a
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: guy certainly in that NIXT Certainly Eric DaCosta is right there.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what. The Dallas Cowboys, Yes, Barry Jones,
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: thank you McLay. They really do a good job. And
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: I used to there was a time and and Stu,
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: you'll love this. I'm like, I think about draft lull
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: from years going by, like there were five years ago,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: and everybody reminded me, you know it was like twenty
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: five thirty years ago you were talking about. I don't
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: they seemed like yesterday and they're like thirty five years ago.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Big D. I used to get big D. Used to
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: get a big D. Remember those days when you're drafting
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: guys draft in the third round even though it's a
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: fifth rent because he could be a special team you
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: can't be. I said, what are you doing? And so
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: they were taking guys that I had a sex sixth
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: seventh round, greater one in the third round. Big D
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: had a big D. Now from I don't know how
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: many years has been, now they are drafting very well,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: and they did again this year, and I gotta give
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: him a lot of credit. They can't just be back
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: in friends. It has to be a defense and hopefully
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: they pick it up on that side of the ball
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: to really be a team that can challenge. I think
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: when you look at what Adam Peters is doing with Washington,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: he was out in San Francisco. You did a really
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: good job there as well. Less sneed to answer your
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: questions soon. Just to go back to the top five. Yeah, okay,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: if you go, if you go, Hollie and John Schneider,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: So Howie Roseman, John Schneider, and you can't separate down
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: and you got to go. Eric. The Costa belongs in
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: that group. Less Snead with the rams and remem there
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: was a time where remember less Steed was getting a
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: lot of heat. Yes, okay out in LA. Then everything
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: started to turn and again we're in a world now
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: where we kick quarterbacks to the curb halfway through their
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: rookie year. Right, look at the way Look at why
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: they're looking at these rookie quarterbacks and the way we
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: were value they better start. They make a mistake. It's like,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: did you see that awful threat. Well, how do you
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: learn in life by making mistakes?
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: You guys all learn by being the one air doing
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: what you do. You learn by your mistakes. You don't
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: learn by doing anything perfectly. You learn, but you hope,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: you hope young players make mistakes so they can learn
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: from them and they don't have to happen again. So
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: for me, we kick these quarterbacks that occur. We do everything.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Everything's got to be changed or coaches, general managers. Sometimes
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: you got to work through some rough moments if you
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: believe in that person's football. IQ. And I said this
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: to somebody at the drafted. It's a million articles written, No,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: you like this guy and you like that guy. This
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: was a positive article, not a negative art. It was
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: probably too positive. But you hit this, you hit that.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I said, it's easy for me to be in the
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: cheap seeds and sitting here saying that I had this
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: guy and I like this guy. But what if you
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: were in a round where you only had one pick
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: in the second round, you only had one pick third.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: You get through a draft and you only have seven players,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: or you have maybe ten players, and you're looking at
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: and evaluating five hundred players a board of one hundred,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty players, and when that picks up
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: in the third round, you're debating between two three guys
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: and I really like, Okay, it's almost like what do
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: I do? Do I have a crab cake?
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Do I have Trent cocktail? You know? Do I have
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: a file a? What do I do? You got to
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: pick one, right, So maybe the fill a was a
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: little well done for you, right, Maybe a crab cake
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: wasn't the Mikey's liking, right, So again, do you pick
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: the right one? Do you pick the right player? And
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: when a team gets three guys to choose from, all
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: three of those guys aren't gonna necessarily be really good.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Maybe one of them is and it might be the
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: one you pick. Yeah, but if you don't pick that guy,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: and it's gonna work, so you'll look like an idiot
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: and they'll criticize your draft or you might even lose
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: your job when you really did like a lot of
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: guys have turned out really good, but just picked the
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: wrong one, yes, because you only had that one pick.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: So again, it's like getting up to the plate and
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: you go one for four, right, Yeah, you could be
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: always say, you know, What's what's the difference between being
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: minor legs major legs? Right? So again that's where you
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: look at these drafts, these general managers to be able
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: to withstand all that survive the test of time and
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: be there for as long as these guys have been
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: there winning Super Bowls. Eric Tacosta, less Sneed, Howie Roseman,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: John Schneider, Brett Veach, all Super Bowl winning general managers,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: and to be able to survive as long as they
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: have Eric Takasta has been. This was his twenty second
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: draft with the Baltimore Ravens. Okay, where he's run the
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: draft room, run the room in addition to being behind
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Ozzie Newsom. Give an example, I took this crew. I
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: took this Baltimore raven scouting department led by Ozzie Newsom,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: and at the time Phil Savage was running it fills
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: now with the La Rams. By the way, Phil Savage,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: we're walking off the field at the Senior Bowl. I
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: don't know if I ever told you this story, and
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: walking off the field of the Senior Bowl, and one
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: of their scouts yelled, tim me, no, what do you
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: think about Darren Howard, who's the defensive Lineman conact cant.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: I say, its first round draft choice. You're crazy, You're nuts.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: He's a fourth round pick. I said, we got a
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: wager here. Somebody said, well, we got wager. I said, okay,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: a dinner one. I had to take them all to
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: dinner if I lost, and I don't know if I
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: was gonna get if they won. He ended up being
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: a first pick of the second round. I lost the bet.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: He didn't go to the first first pick of the
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: second round turned to be a hell of a player,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Darren Howard did. So it was kind of poetic justice,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: and he turned out good. I did to take all
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: these guys to dinner was like, I don't know. It
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: was well over one thousand dollars. I didn't eat because
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I don't eat. Whenever i'd go with you, if you
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: guys took me to dinner, I would not eat. What
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: you guys invited me to a wedding. You guys invited
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: me to a wedding, I would not eat. Invite me
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: to a party, I would not eat. Okay, I don't
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: eat any that stuff. So I went to this dinner.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: I had all these scouts, I had Oz, I had
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Eric toa Costa, fill Savage and the whole crew there,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Terry McDonough, everybody, and I didn't eat one thing. Bill
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: was well over one thousand dollars. It was all crabcakes,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: crack game, double crab cakes, take crap cakes home with you,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: do anything you want, right, So we had a great time.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Eric to Costa was just a scout then and I
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: remember was the late nineties whatever it was, orly to it.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: And now you see him doing the job. He did so.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: And there's more that I could put to that list.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: But that's the elite five right now.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: I mean the answer. And by the way, the seat
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: you're sitting in it ain't cheap now, I mean I
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  Speaker 1: would pay top time.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: When I give it. It's good, you say, because when
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: I when you asked me a question, and Mikey knows
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: what with the old darn and melch, would you ask
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: me a question? I'll go in a million times we know,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: and I was, I always have to ask you. Did
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: I answer your question.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: In that I don't know.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: There's something in there. I think I somewhere in there
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: answered the question right. And I went off and answered
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: by ten more questions. Why I answered your question?
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: That's why.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: It's just the nature of what I do, who I am.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: It's why you're the greatest. It's why we love having you.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I can't no, not the words, the great o, nop,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: the nobody. I don't care what they are, Yeah they are. No,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I don't care what that nameless draft n it said
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: about you and Patrick Mahomes the greatest. I don't care.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: And by the way, it was me who criticized Mahomes.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Mel didn't say anything, Okay, I blasted and read for
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: having the audacity to put Alex Smith uh to bench
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Alex Smith for Patrick Mahomes. It worked out, I was wrong,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: but it was me who criticized Patrick Mahoe. Mel helped
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: me out with this because I hate when this happens.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I hate when it happens. Okay, I love the Jets draft.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Tell me I'm wrong.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I liked I would have gone about it a
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: little differently, but hey, we're splitting hairs there, r VL
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Reese David Bailey. I had Reese a little higher. Yeah,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: you go to Makai Lemon. Would you want to try
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: to maneuver to get lemon after Sadik? Could you have
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: done something there? But Omar Cooper junior. This is really
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: the guy that we're going to be looking back when
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: it was Omar Cooper junior because I thought he was
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: a really good player. I didn't see an elite. They
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: probably did, so they had gotten him and Sadi could
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: be a really special, unique piece of the equation on offense.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: I'm with you. And then did Angelo Ponds is a
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: just a pound for pound, probably one of the best players,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: if not the best player in this draft. A guy
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: who just at JMU and Indiana when he was able
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: to accomplish Kurt Signetti, they say he was a favorite player.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Kurtz Signette should have a lot of favorite players have
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: brought from JMU to Indiana, like Elijah Surratt and all
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: those other guys. Kaylon Black, think about what JM you
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: meant Indiana. Wow, thirteen guys come from Jammu to Indiana
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: and the key what they did for the last two
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: years playoffs, lose the Notre Dame, win a national championship
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: this year. Obviously, Fernando Mendoza coming from cal it a
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: lot to do with that. But all those JMU kids
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: from Aiden Fisher to Elijah Surratt to kill and Black
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: to Mikael Kamara to all these guys D'Angelo pons being
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: right up there near the top of that list, you
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: get him in the second round. We said, Aaron Glenn
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: probably saw a lot of himself in the Angelo Pons.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: It's interesting Aaron Glenn was an interceptor supreme and and
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: they'd have an interception last year. Now that should change
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: this year because of this draft.
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  Speaker 5: made about this upcoming draft class. Everybody's talking about all
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  Speaker 5: the quarterbacks, and a guy who's kind of in that
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: second tier is Brandon Sorosby, who now they're saying might
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: go in the supplemental draft this year. I'm curious, would
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  Speaker 5: you would you go get him this year knowing what's
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  Speaker 5: going to be available next year?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Brandon soors Bates had a good year at Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 2: He had some talent around him. Keep in mind, he
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  Speaker 2: had Jeff Well, he had Cyrus Down, and he had
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Joe Voyer. He had some really good pieces catching the
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: football around Brendan Sowersby. Uh. Then this unfortunate with the gambling.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Uh and went one there in the supplemental draft coming
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: if they have one in the summer and he's part
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: of it. I had going into the year, a second
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: round greade on Brendan Sowersby going from Cincinnati to Texas Tech.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: This Texas Tech would have obviously they have the a
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: building now to go get players who saw that last
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: year they went and got guys right and who were
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: immediately stars at Texas Tech for the Red Raiders in Lubbock.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: So he would have had talent around him. Uh. And
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: want to see how this all plays out. This is
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: a list guys see this, oh boy and written these
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: are next year's guys in position.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, there it is, there, it is.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: I'll give you one thousand dollars for that list right.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Up here with place kickers and punters, okay, and long
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: snappers and it's got it. You can say, I just
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: want to the end, guys. This is just the guys
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: that are really good. Yeah, many lists. How many guys
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: are on this list? How may you think?
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Hm hmm, number seventy two, two.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Hundred and five. What two hundred and five guys on
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: that list?
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Wow? Wow? Now, now some of.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: These guys won't come out. These are draft eligible guys. Yes,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: some of these guys will get paid a lot of
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: money to stay. Like Tyd Simpson was gonna get a
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: lot of money to go to Miami. If you want
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: to go to Miami, right, she decided to come out crazy.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: A lot of these guys will stay because they're gonna
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: get a lot of money to stay. Maybe they feel like, Okay,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: I want to be instead of being a late one,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I want to be an early one. So I'll get
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: a lot of money and I'll stay where I'll transfer
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: and I'll go somewhere else. Darien Menso is a good
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: example of that. He's going from Duke to Miami. He's
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: got a chance to be way up there, right, he
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: went from Tulane to Duke to Miami quarterback. We'll see,
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: we'll see how it goes this year. But the bottom
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: line is a lot of these kids, Oh no, I
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: don't know how many, but a decent amount of these
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: kids will go back so out of that. But that's
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: what I have at one hundred and eighty going into yesterday.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: And I added twenty five last night that I wrote
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: down on this list. As I kept expanding, its expanding
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: to the point where edge rushers guys had to go
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: above where I had edge up into wide receivers. Oh wow,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: not a lot of not a lot of guards and centers,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: yet decent amount of offensive tackles, a ton of a
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: ton of safeties. Look, safety is even edged over into
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Placekickers and punters. Quarterbacks go twenty deep with guys that
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: are twenty deep there. Wide receivers go very deep. But yeah,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: that's this is the list, guys right here.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: You use the back of that paper too.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Is the Yes, I'm gonna have to what I did
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: was I stretched it. So instead of stretching it into
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: another position, I'm gonna you know what I do, I'll
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: go in another today when I'm contidented, I'll go edge continued,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: edge continuall be over here.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Yes, the sheet did you go up?
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: It'll be next time we talk. It'll be filled up
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: on this side as well.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I hope that's tomorrow. Did you guys
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: hear what he said? The edges are bleeding into the
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: wide receivers. He has so many names on that page
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: piece of paper.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. By the way, By the way, this is interesting.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: They always said it's after our after arch Manning and
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Dante Moore. Who do you have on your board? No,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: you got guys ahead of arch Manning and Dante more
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: on that. Yeah. Yes, it's not arch Manning one and
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Dante Moore two. It's Colin Simmons edge rusher out of Texas.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: It's Dylan Storet edge rusher out of South Carolina. It's
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Leonard Moore cornerback out of Notre Dame, and a guy
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: who could be number one, Jeremiah Smith, wide receiver out
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: of Ohio State. Right, we've been waiting now forever. It
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: seems like for Jeremiah Smith to be eligible for a draft.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: He is eligible this year for the draft. He will
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: be in this draft. So those are the guys that
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: are with Jordan Seaton was with Dion at Colorado. He's
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: now at LSU. That incredibly comes out of central casting
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: for left tackle in the NFL. He's now at LSU.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Right cam Coleman was a great receiver coming to Auburn.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Now guess where cam Coleman is. Guys, he's gonna be
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: catching passes from Arch Manning at Texas. Cam Coleman's gonna
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: be really interesting to watch. So there's a lot of
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: guys that are in that mix, ahead of the quarterbacks,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: at least from a grade standpoint. Now from positional value,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks will sore up there, probably ahead of them. But
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: for Arch Manning and Dante Moore, for Arts has got
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: some things to fix. You can't be at forty eight
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: percent in some games, forty five percent in some games.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: You can't finish the year at sixty sixty one percent.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: So Arch has to work on consistency and accuracy and
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: precise passing. Dante Moore same type of thing where you
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: know he had that great game against Penn State late September,
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: then leveled off a bit. These guys need to pick
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: it up to be the number one, number two overall
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: picks because they got some competition at the top of
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: that board.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Guys, now you mentioned less Sneed, what'd you make of
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: the Rams less Sneed Sean McVay getting back into the
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: first round after getting McDuffie from the Chiefs and using
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: that first round pick on ty Simpson.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Well, it was really a bonus pick the way they
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: looked at it, and I agree it was that Atlanta
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Falcons picked that they made that trade. That was old
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: James Pierce letting Atlanta get pierced. They ended up with
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: a first next year, that pick at thirteen was Atlanta's
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: became the Rams because of that trade. They had the
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: late first round picks they sent to Kansas City for McDuffie. Fine,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: we thought, once that trade was made at twenty nine,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: it's not the Rams anymore. That the Rams aren't taking
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: ty Simpson are certainly not taking him at thirteen, and
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: they did so again. Less had something going there with
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: ty Sen where he saw it. He saw something in
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: tie and we said this back going into mid November,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: he was a twenty one touchdowns only one pick up
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: until mid November, which was about nine to ten games.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: In nine games in exactly, he was a top ten
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: pick in the draft. The wheels came off late. He
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: had five fumbles over five straight games, five fumbles lost
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: in a six against Indiana when he was hit by
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: DeAngelo Pines. When he got that crack rib in the
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: playoff game, he said he was hurting. He was not
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent of He lost some weight, he had
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: some issues from a medical injury standpoint, So Ty said,
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: I wasn't tie. I was Ty Simpson prior to that.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: I wasn't Tie Simpson after that. So if you look
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: at it the way Less did, let's need this said, Hey,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: when Ty Simpson was healthy, and remember he didn't have
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: much a consistent offensive line, he didn't have receivers, even
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: though Jerremy Ynard was great. Ryan Williams had a disappointing
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: year based on what we expected from Ryan Williams, and
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: he'd have a running game, so he didn't have all
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: this going around him. Yet he was still a twenty
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: one to one until he felt like I'm not one
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: hundred percent or anywhere close to it. Anymore. So for them,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: they hope he's heir apparent to Matthew Stafford. If McKayle
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: lemon ends up having a great year of Phildelpa who
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: they could have had at thirteen, they'll say, why didn't
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: you take mckaye lemon. You're built for now. You want
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: to get Matthew Stafford that second Super Bowl win. So
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: this is a nuanced situation with a lot of ways
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: you can attack it. All I'll say is when teams
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: and he said why not trade down? Adam Shefter said, well,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: they thought they could make a deal with Detroit to
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: move to seventeen if if Cayden Proctor offensive tackle Alabama
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: was on the board, he went to Miami. Once he
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: went that was not gonna happen. So they didn't get
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: any calls to move down. They had to make a pick.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: And most teams feel when they love a guy, everybody
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: loves that guy too. If I like him, why, I'm
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: sure other teams see what I see now. I think
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: there was always that feel that Arizona and Mike Lafleur,
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: who was with McVeigh with the Rams, with Seawan there Laflora.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: It was all taught Laflora likes him. He's gonna jump
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: into the first round and get ty Simpson. That didn't happen.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: The Rams took him. So at the end of the day,
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: three years down the road, maybe two years down the road,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: we'll see if he is in fact the heir apparent
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: to Matthew Stafford.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: If the Rams don't do that, does Tye Simpson go
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: in the first round?
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Though Adam Schefter says that I'm not an I'm not
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: a draft insider per se. Adam and Peter Schrager are
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: in field, Yates is as well, you know, all those guys,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: so they know they didn't feel like he would go
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: in the first round less Arizona traded back in to
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: get him. If Arizona would have made a move to
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: get ahead of the Jets, and there was talk the
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Jets weren't going to take him at thirty three. So
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: you know, Frank Wright wanted a more physically imposing quarterback.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: He took Drew Aller. Pittsburgh had said they wanted a
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: more physically imposing quarterback for the FC North, so they
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: looked at Drew Aller, right, and they took him there
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: to compete with Will Howard, So all all these teams
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: that you thought, and Arizona took Carson Beck. Arizona ended
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: up taking Carson Beck. You know, so when you think
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: about where we are right now with this whole draft
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: and how it would have played out, he probably would
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: have been there, maybe for Arizona at thirty four, maybe
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: even have to trade into the late first. But the
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Rams obviously loved them, felt like there was somebody else
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: that out there like Arizona could have done it, and
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: they took him. So will he be a successful because
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: ony quarterback in the NFL? Will he be a quarterback
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: the Rams can get back into the playoffs and win
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: with after Matthew Stafford retires after his Hall of Fame career,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: We'll say it's all going to play out. So the
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: answers will be determined down the road. Right now, we
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: can just have our opinions and we spew them and
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: we'll see what happens.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: We'll get you out here. Two quick ideas. I think
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: they're good ideas because you're a charitable man. And then
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: just a quick question at the end here, what if
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: you signed that cheap seat that you sit in every year?
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: You signed it right after the draft and you sold
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: it to the highest bidder for charity. What do you think? Huh?
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Do you know how much that would go for? I mean, honestly,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: get you.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: It might get you. You know, an ice cream sandwich.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: You know fact I love ice cream sandwiches, by the way,
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: that's one of my favorites. That's one of my favorites.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: That's a Hall of Fame dessert is an ice cream samds.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, you know that's well. You said, remember
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: the good humor man, I said, the good humor man
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: would come by. So you remember good humor man, course
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: hemor man, good humor man come by. The truck would
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: run out there, give me my ice cream sandwich? Right,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: I get like three on them, right, he's three. So yeah,
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: so that's maybe what to say what my seat would
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: be worth? Maybe an ice cream sandwich.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: To I have a first round grade on the ice
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: cream changwich? How about that?
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, yes, high for the number one pick on
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: ice cream sand But I don't know. Hey, I'd love
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: to do it. They just see that sit in here.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: You can have this chair. I sitting in here. Squeaky podcast.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Every TV segment I do all you know, I guess
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: what I did. Hey, Mikey, what do I do to
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: my seats? I'm doing this. I'm rocking. We take a chair,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: I take a chair Stu Taylor and Mikey and I
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: make it into a rock. Or even if it's not
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: a rock, right, there isn't better. There's a lazy boy
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Barkert lounge, or this that or the other thing that
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: I even broken. I got a graveyard of chairs. I
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: can show you this chair that they got me. Right.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: I broke the dagone thing. Tim out and talked to
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Ryan Basteck. But he does great. Ryan's a miracle. He's
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: everything we have. Technical Ryan Bastech comes through and solves
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: the problem for us. Called Ryan Ryan the chair broke
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: the chair boom. A couple of days, got a chair.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: These chairs aren't supposed to rock, but I'm constantly rocking.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: So I actually broke a chair. It's in there. This
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: is a new chair. I'll probably break in another six months.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: But yeah, any chairs you need me to science to
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: I'll be happy to do it.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: For an ice cream sandwich for charity, I'm talking if
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: you think, if you think I'll get more than ice
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: cream sandwich too. If you believe in that and you're
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: my you should be my Kim's my agent. You should
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: be my co agent. You and Kim should be my agent. Done.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Done, you're right there. Yeah, I'm talking about the actual
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: chair that you sit in during the draft.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Yes, I have no determination on that. That's the ESPN
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: deal that you have to talk to the to the
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: folks that yes, chair is available. I might have broken
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: it still, who knows it? Right now? After three days
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: of me sitting in there? Although I don't think I
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: sat in the same chair. I thinct I was on
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: the one end for the first two nights and they
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: flipped me to the other end for night three. Maybe
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: because I broke the chair, I don't know, but the
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: who knows? So I got two chairs I can signed
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: the one for day one and two and the one
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: for day three.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Right, and that laminated piece of paper too, That would
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: be great sign that.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Now this is this is worth his weight in gold.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: All right, final question, we'll get you out of here. Okay,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: how much do I have to pay mel kiper Junior
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: to start next week to do a weekly baseball show
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: with us? How much?
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: No weekly baseball? Baseball is my Baseball is my stew
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: my what is the word escape?
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Yes, my escape from.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Football, my escape from everything else. I just like to escape.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: I have, I have my I watch every game. I
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: flipped all the games in the evening. When I finally
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: settled aund around ten thirty a night. What's happening? The
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: West Coast is going strong, right, and I'm watching the
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Seattle Mariners. I'm watching you know, everybody Padres, my brother
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: in laws, a big Padre fan. I'm always what Dodgers.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Grew up as a big Dodger fan with with Tommy
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Lasorda and Albutquerque be in the Triple A that got
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: all those guys from Ron Say to Bill Russell to
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Davey Lopes, Steve Garb to Steve Yeager. I was a
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: toy cannon Jimmy wyn fan when it was a toy cannon,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: back when Walter Austin was managing. I was a big
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Dodger fan, loved the Dodgers back in the day. So yes,
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: when I can watch it from Chevez Ravine and watch
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: all that, that's my escape. I do not want to
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: be forced to a podcast or talk about anything lay
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: to baseball. We gotta get Kyle Bradish going, right, mikey A.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: We gotta get Tom Bradish going to get him going. Yeah,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: we gotta get this picture. We gotta get things going
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: for the Ools. Get over to five hundred, could pass
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: five hundred, start rolling and get healthy, get some guys healthy,
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: get this full group of talent on the field, all
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: everybody available, get him out there. And let's we're not
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: in the May first yet, so let's see. Let's get
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: rolling when we get When the weather gets hot, right,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: the great the good players become great players, and everything
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: gets rolling. I hate baseball and ice cold weather. Love
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: it when it gets hot. That's what it's meant to
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: be played in. So let's get some warm, hot weather
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: going and get the crab cakes, the Orange crushes, the
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Old Bay, and the some Maryland crab soup, and let's
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: have a little fun this summer.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: He is at the season for him, he is.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: A right yeah, well deserved, he is there.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Taylor was saying, Alonzo under the Mendoza line. I mean,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: he's got to be better, mel Yes.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Who's that? Oh gosh, you got a home run last night? Yeah,
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: but he's what's the what's one ninety five tailor?
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Terrible terrible ninety eight.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, we'll get We'll get Pete Pete Alonso going.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: We got you a little health. We gotta get Gunnered one. Yeah,
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: get Gunner one as well. What's Gunner's average right now?
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Taylor to thirteen thirteen?
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: That's not cutting?
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah that.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: So we got guys, got get started and go on here,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: get some guys injured healthy, and get Kyle going and
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: uh and we'll be right there competing for a wild cord.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: So I'll concede to your Yankees.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, and I'll can see to you next weekend. Yes,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: I can see to you. Not wanting to do a
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: baseball podcast. I'll never ask you that again. I understand.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Thank you, I appreciate it. Let me enjoy at least
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: by one escape with.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Sp check him out. Check out the pod first Draft
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: with him Greedy Field eight. He is the star of
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: the NFL draft every single year. Mel Thank you for
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: doing this. Thanks for making time for us, always during
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: the busiest time for you.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: We're gonna go start add to my list right back
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: for another couple of days. Guys, I have a great one.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: You guys are the best, all right.
• 42:14
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• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Thank you Okay, but I love you guys.