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Red Heifers, Third Temple, and the Ten Kings | Mondo & Lauren Caron · The Week in Bible Prophecy

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  Speaker 1: The Week in Bible Prophecy a Prophecy Watchers Podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Hello Mondo, we are so excited to have you.
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  Speaker 3: It's yes, I told you we moved up a little.
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  Speaker 1: Excellent, that's actually. And then I want to welcome, of
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  Speaker 1: course you to our podcast as well, for this is
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  Speaker 1: is good.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, super excited to be here.
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  Speaker 2: And for those that don't know Mondo's background, Mondo is
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  Speaker 2: a pastor. He is a theologian. You have do you
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  Speaker 2: have a degree in archaeology Mondo? Okay, I thought so,
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  Speaker 2: and then I feel like you also have something to do.
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  Speaker 2: I want to say with astronomy. Do you have degrees
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  Speaker 2: in that too?
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  Speaker 1: It's just no, it's a I took astronomy in college.
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  Speaker 1: pretty cool.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, your images are way way cool. I follow all
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  Speaker 2: of that on Instagram, and I love seeing it. It's
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  Speaker 2: just amazing to see so. And I think the other
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  Speaker 2: cool thing about you too that people may not know.
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  Speaker 2: I know you mentioned it because you were on my
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  Speaker 2: Voices of a Certainty channel. You're my first guests on
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  Speaker 2: this like segment on my channel, and now you're coming
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  Speaker 2: back today. But you also took I think you said
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  Speaker 2: Jewish studies.
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  Speaker 3: Isn't that right? You know Greek and Hebrew? Right?
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  Speaker 2: Do you speak both fluently? I was always curious about that.
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  Speaker 1: Well I do. Look, I'll say this one. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: fluent by any means in the sense of modern Hebrew,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm competent in Greek and Hebrew in the sense
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  Speaker 1: of translation from the Bible for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Perfect. Okay, awesome, awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Well I'm having you back on today because obviously it's
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  Speaker 2: what a time to be alive. I don't really know
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  Speaker 2: how to say it any differently. I feel like I
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  Speaker 2: used that phrase all the time, But today we kind
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  Speaker 2: of want to talk a little bit about some of
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  Speaker 2: the updates going on with the Red Heifers and Third
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  Speaker 2: Temple preparations. You are a genius when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: that stuff. You have actually a book out the Red
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  Speaker 2: Heifer Ritual Book, which I also have linked in the
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  Speaker 2: description box for people. So we're going to do that,
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  Speaker 2: and then we want to talk a little bit about
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  Speaker 2: shifting into the ten Kings that are talked about in
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  Speaker 2: Daniel in Revelation, So exploring whether or not these can
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  Speaker 2: be oligarchs or technocrats. It's something that I'm super interested in,
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  Speaker 2: especially with all we see kind of just weaving together
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  Speaker 2: in today's world. So we're going to have all of
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  Speaker 2: that in this conversation today. So with that, I think
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  Speaker 2: what we'll do maybe is start with the red heifers.
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  Speaker 2: So the last time I think I saw you on
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  Speaker 2: somebody else's podcast not too long ago, and I feel
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  Speaker 2: like you were talking about there were two purebred red
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  Speaker 2: heifers left. Can you give us an update on where
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  Speaker 2: things are at for today?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it's things in Israel right now. Are the mood
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  Speaker 1: is shifting as we know, just geopolitically, even I would
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  Speaker 1: say religiously for sure, because of the Trump administration coming
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  Speaker 1: in and we saw in the last few days Trump releasing,
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  Speaker 1: for example, the two thousand pound bunker Buster missiles back
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  Speaker 1: to Israel. They're arriving that there's been bulldozers that have
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  Speaker 1: been on hold by the Biden administration before. And people
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  Speaker 1: asked him, you know, these kind of aggressive journalists said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, how could you let those bombs be given
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  Speaker 1: over to Israel? And he says, well, they bought them.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they purchased him. We already got the money.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm just releasing what has already been purchased. And
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  Speaker 1: so but what the reason I bring that up is
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  Speaker 1: because the tone is shifted, just again geopolitically. But the
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  Speaker 1: rabbis and the religious Orthodox, they love Trump. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: we know him back in twenty seventeen eighteen when Trump
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  Speaker 1: moved the embassy there. He was the only one that
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  Speaker 1: was willing to do what was in the law books.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it was passed back in the Clinton administration,
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  Speaker 1: but he was the only president that had the guts
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  Speaker 1: to do it. And of course, you know, threats of
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  Speaker 1: World War three and everything else did not come to fruition.
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  Speaker 1: He saw right through that and he did it. And
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  Speaker 1: here it is. It's been seven years. So the point
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  Speaker 1: being is that they call Trump a Cyrus messiah, not
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  Speaker 1: the fullest I've been a non Jewish messiah. And what
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  Speaker 1: it's doing now is it's it's creating a greater desire
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  Speaker 1: and uh I would say momentum for the idea of
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  Speaker 1: the red stuff ceremony, the red heifer ceremony to happen
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  Speaker 1: a s A P. We do know that there's there's
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  Speaker 1: conflicting information and that's why let me clarify some things.
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  Speaker 1: Is on the Temple Mount or the Temple Institute Facebook page,
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  Speaker 1: you see often there people could go there. They're the
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  Speaker 1: ones that are partnered with Bona Israel as it relates
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  Speaker 1: to the the red heifers and bringing them over. Well,
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  Speaker 1: on their page they'll say there's only two that are qualified.
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  Speaker 1: Byron Stenson, who was the main Texas Texas connection for
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  Speaker 1: Bona Israel. They do a lot of other projects. Great guy,
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  Speaker 1: love Byron. He was interviewed just recently. He said, no,
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  Speaker 1: there's three. There's still three that are qualified. One is
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  Speaker 1: not as red as the others, but it's still qualified
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  Speaker 1: in a in a in a pre qualification way. So
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  Speaker 1: all that to say there's there's no upra age limit
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  Speaker 1: for these that's another question that comes up often. Yep.
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  Speaker 1: And so these three are there. What we do know
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  Speaker 1: as well is the other two that have been disqualified
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  Speaker 1: these are female cows. Uh, they are in the process
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  Speaker 1: of being artificially inseminated in order to continue the genetic offspring.
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  Speaker 1: And these cows are beautiful for the Israeli breeding program,
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  Speaker 1: so things have not stopped for sure. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So with them, that brings up a whole new
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  Speaker 2: question I didn't even have written down for you. With
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  Speaker 2: them being artificially inseminated, does that disqualify them at all?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, not at all, because at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 1: they're I mean, they're using another pole. They're just making it.
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  Speaker 1: They're just making it easier so they don't have to
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  Speaker 1: bring the bowl over, Okay, and they're able to get
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  Speaker 1: this inform that you know, this contribution from from if
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  Speaker 1: you want to say it that.
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  Speaker 3: Way, that it's a great way to say, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: From very pure red heifers. Whether those are in the
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  Speaker 1: information has come out, whether those cows are in Texas
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  Speaker 1: or or in America, most likely it doesn't matter. But again,
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  Speaker 1: these these animals are very genetically beautiful and pure in
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  Speaker 1: that regard. And it takes The fascinating thing to me
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  Speaker 1: is the Bible never says it just says a red cow,
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  Speaker 1: red heifer, red female cow, not a calf, not a bull.
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  Speaker 1: So but what the Rabbis have done in their typical
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  Speaker 1: way is they will add on all these prescriptions and
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  Speaker 1: requirements that are over the top pretty standard fare. And
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  Speaker 1: when you study the talmut or the mission of the
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  Speaker 1: Jewish writings and so to have God in his providence
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  Speaker 1: to allow even one cow to meet not only the
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  Speaker 1: biblical requirements but all these extra rabbinic requirements truly is amazing.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, again, I'm not anybody watch me. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not a sationalist. I don't like hype actually, but we
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  Speaker 1: can say with just as a matter of fact, with
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  Speaker 1: as non hype mentality as possible, this is the first
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  Speaker 1: time in two thousand years where you not only have
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  Speaker 1: one qualified red heifer, but we have three. So that
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  Speaker 1: is unprecedented in historic times and even again all going
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  Speaker 1: all the way back to the first century.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So for somebody that's new that might be watching
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  Speaker 2: this video and maybe is you know her chatter around
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  Speaker 2: the interwebs about these cows and the significance and Israel's
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  Speaker 2: building a third temple.
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  Speaker 3: What does that mean?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe let's have you answer the question of what does
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  Speaker 2: the red heifer sacrifice or I'm sorry, why does the
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  Speaker 2: red heifer sacrifice need to be completed before the third
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  Speaker 2: Temple can be built? Because this is that's obviously a
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  Speaker 2: big deal.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, so let me what I see. If you
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  Speaker 1: see this on the Temple Institute page, they will say
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  Speaker 1: it's absolutely not a sacrifice. Sacrifices take place on the
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  Speaker 1: temple now out on the altar, which is true. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So their language, just so that they don't yell at us,
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  Speaker 1: you know, their language is this is a ceremony. It's
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  Speaker 1: a red heifer slaughter. There's no doubt. They kill the
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  Speaker 1: animal and then they burn it whole on the amount
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  Speaker 1: of all of us. We know that from historical documents
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  Speaker 1: in the Mishnah, which was about two hundred and eight
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  Speaker 1: d So it goes back a long way. This isn't
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  Speaker 1: anything new. So what we know is this, and this
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  Speaker 1: is important. The Bible doesn't specifically have a prophecy about
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  Speaker 1: the red heifer. And so you know, in my book,
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  Speaker 1: I never I say, hey, there's no specific prophecy. But
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  Speaker 1: what we recognize is the inference that in order to
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  Speaker 1: use the temple, the temple is prophesied Daniel nine twenty
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  Speaker 1: seven second Thesalonians to Matthew twenty four, Jesus and John
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  Speaker 1: in Revelation eleven. So we have four witnesses that show
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  Speaker 1: that there will be a temple, third temple, physical temple,
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  Speaker 1: not a figurative temple, a real temple. It's going to
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  Speaker 1: be rebuilt. So we look at that hypothetically. Conceptually, the
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  Speaker 1: third Temple could be built today, okay, but it can't
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  Speaker 1: be used until they have the ashes of the Red Effort.
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  Speaker 1: Now that is standard coming out of the Bible because
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  Speaker 1: in number chapter nineteen, the ashes were given in order
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  Speaker 1: to cleanse people who are ritually impure, primarily through through
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  Speaker 1: being an interaction with the dead person or a dead
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  Speaker 1: area or or building or a grave or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: So the inference then is and the rabbis know this.
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  Speaker 1: They say, well, okay, their goal has always been talking
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  Speaker 1: about building the Third Temple, but they know, well, we
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  Speaker 1: could build it, but can't use it. We need the
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  Speaker 1: ashes because the whole area has been contaminated by Muslims
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  Speaker 1: and others, and even today the people. If you're born
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  Speaker 1: in a hospital, according to ritual rabbinic rules, doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: If you're born in a hospit you're automatically right out
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  Speaker 1: of the gate. You're born in a ritually impure environment
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  Speaker 1: because there could be dead people there. And so there's
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  Speaker 1: a whole bunch of other things that they've done in
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  Speaker 1: order to counteract that. For priests, they have priests who
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  Speaker 1: were not born in hospitals and other things, so they
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  Speaker 1: are they actually have never been declared impure. So you
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  Speaker 1: do have people that could perform this ceremony who are
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  Speaker 1: ritually pure, but they need the ashes in order to
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  Speaker 1: cleanse the people, in order to cleanse that, the the
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  Speaker 1: the area, in order to cleanse anything else that becomes impure,
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  Speaker 1: because even vessels, vessels, articles, things can be can transmit impurity.
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  Speaker 1: We see this in John chapter two as an example
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  Speaker 1: that stone, stone water pots are one of the few
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  Speaker 1: things that don't transfer impurities. It's very, very fascinating anyways,
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  Speaker 1: But nevertheless, so for the for the average or just
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  Speaker 1: the Christian who doesn't get into all this stuff. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't mean to average in a bad way, just
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  Speaker 1: maybe that might not be knowledgeable. Say why does this matter, Well,
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  Speaker 1: it matters because the Bible says the temple was there.
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  Speaker 1: Daniel nine twenty seven says, there'll be sacrifices, and so
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  Speaker 1: we know it's going to happen, but it can't happen
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  Speaker 1: without the red heifer. And so the rabbis are doing
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  Speaker 1: this and it shows us that now that we have
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  Speaker 1: three qualified red heifers, we are living in some exciting
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  Speaker 1: times for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's the big thing. I think that
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  Speaker 2: just kind of watching this happen over the last couple
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  Speaker 2: of years. I mean before was it twenty twenty one?
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  Speaker 2: Was when they were first flown over?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Was it twenty two September fifteenth of twenty two, twenty two?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, before that, there was just this just wasn't even
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  Speaker 2: a conversation really that was getting any media coverage or
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  Speaker 2: anything because it wasn't there. So we have that, and
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  Speaker 2: then when you go down the list and you see
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  Speaker 2: that they actually have all of their articles prepared. I
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  Speaker 2: mean I do follow the Temple Institute on all their
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  Speaker 2: social media. It's fascinating stuff to just read through because
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  Speaker 2: they are there, they're set this, they're doing this.
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  Speaker 3: This is like yes.
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  Speaker 2: So for people out there who say that there's not
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  Speaker 2: going to be a third temple rebuilt, it's laughable to
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  Speaker 2: me because they are going to get it done.
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  Speaker 3: So here's a question.
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking that maybe it might be good for
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  Speaker 2: you to help the audience understand since you know so
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  Speaker 2: much about this, can you give us a rundown of
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  Speaker 2: everything that's kind of already prepared for the Third Temple?
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  Speaker 2: Like what do they have ready according to levitical requirements
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  Speaker 2: and all of that.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, So, the best way, the best thing for people,
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  Speaker 1: if they're they're interested and it's it's kind of like
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  Speaker 1: you said, it's fun, is to go to the Temple
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  Speaker 1: Institute dot com. You also visit their YouTube page where
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  Speaker 1: they have the architectural architectural plans have already been produced.
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  Speaker 1: People can watch the videos of what the temple would
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  Speaker 1: look like in a modern setting rather than an ancient
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  Speaker 1: First centry setting. But if you go there, I've been
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  Speaker 1: there many times, to their to their place in Israel.
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  Speaker 1: It's in Jerusalem. They have the golden Manora, which we
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  Speaker 1: know is required huge and it's it's all it's covered
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  Speaker 1: in real gold. This isn't fabricated. The altar of incense
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  Speaker 1: is again. When you go into the temple, you have
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  Speaker 1: the table of show bed on the right, you have
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  Speaker 1: the manora on the left, you have the altar of
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  Speaker 1: incense right there, right by what we would consider the
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  Speaker 1: veil or the curtain that separates the Holy Place from
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  Speaker 1: the Holy of Holies, where the ark of the Covenant
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  Speaker 1: would be. So those, all those things are done. They're
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  Speaker 1: covered in gold, The priestly garments have been completed, the
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  Speaker 1: copper vessels, all the other things. It's it's pretty fascinating.
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  Speaker 1: You go there and boom boom, boom boom, all done.
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  Speaker 1: The harps, that the instruments are already Levitical priests right
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  Speaker 1: now meet on a regular basis in order to not
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  Speaker 1: just practice their singing, but to develop and compose music.
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  Speaker 1: And so when you look at every single angle, the
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  Speaker 1: only thing that's missing is there's two things that are missing.
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  Speaker 1: One is the is the redheifer ashes, which would again
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  Speaker 1: allow it. And the second thing is the geopolitical will
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  Speaker 1: to accomplish this. And there's a lot of and I
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  Speaker 1: document this all the book, because you have the religious
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  Speaker 1: views and then you have the secular political views, and
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  Speaker 1: so a lot of But what I document in there
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  Speaker 1: is how much has changed in the last ten years,
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  Speaker 1: twenty years. You go back to again nineteen forty five,
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  Speaker 1: when there is no Israel you think, just in some
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  Speaker 1: people's lifetimes, how much the religious or the prophetic landscape
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  Speaker 1: has changed. It's pretty amazing. So for those that are
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  Speaker 1: that don't know about that right now, we can say
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  Speaker 1: they have everything they need. They even claim they have
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  Speaker 1: a model of the arc of the Covenant, but they
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  Speaker 1: claim that they have the real one just hidden somewhere,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know whether that's true or not. But nevertheless,
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  Speaker 1: they have everything they need except the red heifer ashes
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  Speaker 1: and those are forthcoming. We can say it that way.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: And then they have I remember hearing this again from
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  Speaker 2: you and just from other things that I've been, you know,
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  Speaker 2: watched videos and starting on this particular topic. But the
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  Speaker 2: Cohen family, the young boys, they even have like this,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you'd call like a ranch. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's what I would think of to call it. But
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  Speaker 2: they have a place where these kids are at they've
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  Speaker 2: never been exposed to certain things that would disqualify them.
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  Speaker 2: Can you talk a little bit about that too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. The fascinating thing about it is I mentioned a
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  Speaker 1: little bit earlier that they have several people who are
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  Speaker 1: several young young men who are Cohen. Cohen is the
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  Speaker 1: Hebrew word for priests, and they were again born in
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  Speaker 1: a situation where they've never touched the dirt. Now, why
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  Speaker 1: why in the world doing this? Well, because in numbers
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  Speaker 1: nineteen you have the whole chapter which is one of
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  Speaker 1: the primary ways to become unclean is to be in
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  Speaker 1: the vicinity of a dead person. So what the rabbis
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  Speaker 1: have done is said, okay, well, how do we make
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  Speaker 1: sure that we can never violate this commandment. Well, what
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  Speaker 1: they've done, in their own perspective is there's several ways
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  Speaker 1: to overcome that. Because you can't walk on a grave. Well,
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  Speaker 1: a grave is in dirt, so you can't go out
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  Speaker 1: there and just walk in the field because hypothetically there
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  Speaker 1: could be a dead body there. So then you become
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  Speaker 1: ritually impure. And now you're ritually impure forever until the
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  Speaker 1: ashes of the red heifer. So what they do is
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  Speaker 1: if you walk on bedrock, okay, well, then obviously nothing's
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  Speaker 1: going to be buried under bedrock. Or what they'll do
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  Speaker 1: is they will have a deck like decking or a
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  Speaker 1: raised stage, like we have a stage or platform that's
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  Speaker 1: off the ground. There's air between it. So what you
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  Speaker 1: have is if you live in a house that is
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  Speaker 1: above the ground and you walk around, then you're fine.
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  Speaker 1: You'll never be touching the dirt. So what they've created
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  Speaker 1: is like you, like you said, these dwelling places where
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  Speaker 1: it's all elevated, and when the kids go out to play,
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  Speaker 1: they're never allowed to play on the dirt from the
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  Speaker 1: time of day they were born. They can go on animals,
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  Speaker 1: you can ride as long as you're off the ground.
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  Speaker 1: There's mentioned in the Mishnah where there was a bridge
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: that went from the Temple mount across the Kidron Valley
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: to the Mount of Olives, where if you walked on
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: these raised arched walkways, then as a priest, you were
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: not on the ground, and so then you're okay because
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: you will never get contaminated that way. So they take
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: this very seriously. And these priests who have been born
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: in this environment forever, since they're you know, they're eighteen, nineteen,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: twenty years old. Now, their entire life has been in
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: this situation because they need to remain pure so that
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: on the day of that ceremony they will be It's
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: interesting that they will be conducting the ceremony in their
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: pure place, at least ritually as they do the ceremony,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: the cow now becomes unclean, and that after that happens,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: the uncleanness of the cow transfers over to the priests,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: so he actually becomes unclean. But through the ceremony they
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: collect the ashes and later they mix it with water
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: and they could sprinkle him and in a ceremony takes
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: seven days and he could get his purity pack. So
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: it's if you take all that. There's some theological implications
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: there too, as the relates to Jesus and the Book
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: of Hebrews. But it's extremely fascinating that the ways in
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: which they are serious about it and they can do it. Wow.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: And then I remember hearing something and I actually forgot
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: to write this down, but it just popped into my
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: brain about this would be the tenth red heifer sacrifice.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: But they have all the ashes going all the way
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: back to Moses. And was there something that, Man, I
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: feel like I heard something about them putting it all together.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Is there any merit to that?
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: No, there's a couple there. There's some truths in there, okay,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: and that they from ancient times the Mishna and another gentleman,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: well he's not a gentleman, just whatever a rabbi in
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: the in the in the medieval times. His name's rombaumb
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Moses Mimonodes. He wrote a book called the Mishnah Torah,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: which was a commentary on the Mishnah and the commandments,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: and so he discusses in there, and it's known that
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: there have been nine red heifers, or at least alleged
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: nine red heifers that have been offered again in the
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: ceremony from the time of Moses, the last one being
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: in the first century or the time of Jesus. And
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: so what he says is, and he's writing around twelve
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: hundred and eighty deep and I remember, you know, reading
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: his books in college because that was part of my studies.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: But he makes the claim that the tenth red heifer
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: will come at the time of the Messiah, the time
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: of the Messiah's arrival, and so he has said that
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: the Messiah himself will perform the ceremony. Now, the rabbis
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: today they don't embrace that because that's a very restricted view,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: and they're like, well, we don't necessarily think it has
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: to be the Saiah himself. But nevertheless, when the when
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: the red heifer, when that tenth redheiffer comes and the Cohen,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: the priest, performs the ceremony. It will reveal to us
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: that the time of the Messiah's arrival is at hand.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: And so we look at this and we go as
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: a Christian, yes, we would even agree with that, but
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: it's the Messiah's second coming which is at hand. And
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: so but nevertheless, they they recognize that, they will say
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: that the red heifer is actually being provided by the
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Messiah in their own way. It'll be offered, the ashes
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: will get there, and it will complete the prophetic overtones
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: that were given by Moses, my monodes going way back
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: and again their hearts and desires. Is the tenth one
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: will be the final one? Wow?
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: And is it? Is it accurate to say? I mean,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: that's that's that's wild.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: That's what I remember hearing too, is that it was
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: the tenth would be would you know, signify the coming
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: of the Messiah. But we know as Christians right now,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: we know that with the coming Tribulation, we know that
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: like they're waiting on you know, the inverse of that,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: and they're not keen to that. They're waiting on the
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Antichrist and they don't even know it. So I think
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: that's what's really just wild about seeing all of this,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: you know, taking place in our generation right now, and
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: seeing how close we are to some of this stuff
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: actually coming into fruition. So the other thing that I read,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: and I wish I could find this article again, So
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you because I thought, man, maybe
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: he'll know I heard about it last year. But there
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: was some kind of significant discovery of like some blue
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: ink that was derived from a specific type of snail
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: which has also not been seen in over two thousand years.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: And I would love for you to shed some light
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: on that if you know that, and how that is
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: connected to again those garments that you know go to
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: the Third Temple and all of the ceremonial stuff.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the snail is the Murex trunkless and it's what
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: is important about it is they're going back to the
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: year two thousand. From an archaeological perspective, the Muslims were
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: conducting these illegal just construction on the Temple mount and
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: so they were doing it, they were trying to do
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: it secretly, and at the time, the Israeli government was
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: very weak in that it was not enforcing it was
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: not enforcing that there's a law that's not allowed. So
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: what they were doing is they were digging out all
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: this dirt and they were dumping it in the Kidron Valley,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: nine thousand tons, so truckload after truckload. You know, all
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, the Jewish people who are paying attention,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: especially the archeologists, they're paying attention. They're going, hey, where
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: are all these truckloads of dirt? They're just bringing them
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: out because the Muslims there were trying to basically ingratiate
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: themselves further on the Temple Mount in order to prevent
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: any further expansion potentially by the Jewish government. So around
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: two thousand and four, it's called the Temple Mount Sifting Project.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: You have a group Gabriel Barkay, very well known archaeologists.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: What they decided was, you know what, we don't know
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: the context of this, but we're going to go extract
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: all that dirt and move it and bring it to
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: where we can look through it. And so they did,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: and so they have found. So they did this and
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: they started this sifting project where they took the dirt,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: they sifted it in an archaeological you know, tools, and
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: they started finding all these things, things from the First
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Temple period, things certainly from the Second Temple period. But
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: one of the things that they found they found over
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: twenty of these mirror's trunklish shells, these snail shells, which
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: they had new from other writings, that the blue dye
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: that is very rare, it's very unique, it's very expensive.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: We know on prayer shawls, you know, talite that you
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: know in Hebrew, or the seat seat that you see
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: at the bottom is blue colored, as well as the
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: priestly garments. And this blue dye that was used to
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: color these garments comes from this snail. And so the
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: fact that they discovered it in a first step of
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: context these twenty shells, they go they're like, this is
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: this is this, this is where they got the blue dye.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: And so that they had certainly the idea is, or
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: the the educated guess is that the priests at the
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: time had a very large snail operation in order to
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: get the blue dye, because for example, it takes about
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: you know, ten or twelve thousand shells to get a
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: couple of grams of this this this snail dye ink
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: that they use, so you would have to have a
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: big operation. So the fact that they found them there
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: in an archaeological context again reveals that they're most likely
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: was a full operation there to continue this die so
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: lately they have now that they've discovered that they they've
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: come to go to the snail and through the process
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: realize that this is how they get the blue dye.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: If you leave it out in the sun as well
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: you could, you can it can can modify the colors
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: to different things. But no doubt. Again this is once
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: again that's why I love archaeology, because archaeology comes to
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: reveal some things that would have been unknown. But the
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: ultimate goal it would be to excavate on the Temple
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Mount because there's so much knowledge that is currently off limits.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: But yet it worked against them, the Muslims that were
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: there and trying to really really deface the underground. They
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: dumped all this material and now our Israeli archaeologists are
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: gaining knowledge from it and again proving what that there
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: was a Jewish presence on the Temple Mount. Wow.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: And again for us as believers, it just again goes
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: to just hammer home that the Word of God is
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: alive and accurate and all of these things that are
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: talked about that have yet to come to pass, shall
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: come to pass. It's amazing, It's truly fascinating. So okay,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: so now we've kind of shifted into you know, after
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: the election and everything, and we have obviously somebody that
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: is in power now, President Trump, and he is obviously
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: very in some regards pro Israel. I know there's a
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: lot going on with the two state solution talk right now,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: but he has a lot of people that are in
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: his administration as well that seem to be very supportive
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: of the Jews wanting to be able to rebuild their
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: temple too. So what do you think the Trump administration
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: the role how do you think this role might come
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: into play in advancing the third Temple.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's let's give a little background to that,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: because sure we have Hegzeth in there as defense. He's
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: very very strong. He's been on record talking about how
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: it's he's he's all for building a third Temple. Mike Huckabee,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: no doubt, same thing, very pro Israel, very again Christian prophecy.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: If you want to say that, let's fast forward a
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: year ago or fast backwards. I guess a year ago
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: where the ceremony the redever ceremony he was supposed to
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: happen in the Passover to Pentecost window of twenty twenty four,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: basically April to June. Well, at that time, you know,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Israel had been in its war with Hamas from October seventh,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: and so in addition, the Biden administration not friendly to
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Israel very much. So, and so in January of let
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: me just set the context. So Israel met Yahoo. I
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: think is the right person for the job. For sure,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: he recognizes and he always has the existential threat of
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: being surrounded by either Hesbalah or Hamas. And so he
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: said very clearly that there is no future for Hamas
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: in the gods of strip So as he's as he's
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: doing this, he's fighting against the American administration at the time,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: the Biden administration, who for whatever reason wanted, I mean's
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: just sick. They wanted to see Hamas caninue to be
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: in power. Why that is, I don't know. If it
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: does it go back to Obama probably okay. But nevertheless,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: so what Yahoo is looking, he's recognizing we need weapons
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: from the United States, and therefore he's trying to do
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: that political navigation in trying not to upset Biden in
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: order to which would then, as he has he showed,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: which would prohibit or either limit or restrain weapons from
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: being delivered to Israel, which they've already paid for and
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: are entitled to through agreements. And so. But you have
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: the religious component of the government, the religious government in
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Israel right now, the government is the most religious in
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: the history of Israel, and you know seventy eight years okay,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: But so here's Nanielle wakiness. He's got his religious component
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: that is trying to press for greater sovereignty on the
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Temple mount and NTA is looking like, hey, I know
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: that's important, but we just need to survive. We have
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: an existential threat. Again, as we know, in April and October,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Iran had launched rockets. So you have all this backdrop,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: and then what happened. The reason this came out even
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: more was, of course October seventh of twenty three is
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: when the attack, the terrorist attack took place. Prior to this,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: there was zero mention ever by Hamas of the Red Heifers. Zero.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: But come January of twenty four they made a public
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: statement that one of the reasons that they attacked in
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: October was because of the red cows. They mentioned them specifically.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: I know, I saw it. I shared it everywhere.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: So here we have this now very specific mention, and
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: now in y'ahoo's like okay. So in my interviews with
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Byron at the time prior to that announcement, Byron's like, hey, Mondo,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: you know, roughly November December of twenty three, we got mission.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: We're planning on the ceremony taking place in April twenty four.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Pray for me. We're trying to do a live stream
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: for eight hundred million people. And so I'm like, oh wow,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: So you had all this thought and that momentum, that
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: discussion was happening from July of twenty three, so even
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: before the terrorist attack. Okay, so fast forward you again
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: there too, November December, and then in January Hamas comes
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: out with this and then talking to Buyer and he's.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: Like, Mondo, it's halted, squashed, you.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Can't talk about it, can't make a public And so
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: you see the Temple Institute publicly now reshaping the conversation
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: to say oh no, no, no, everything's on hold, or you know,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: we want to do it with this is a rejoyous event.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: There's nothing going to be secret here, and so a
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: lot of people ask if it's been done in secret.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: It's impossible for it to be done in secret because
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: when you're on the Mount of Olives, you have two
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: locations that are potentials. The amount of Olives is surrounded
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: by Jewish settlements or Jewish cities and as well as
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: city and cities. So if you have a bonfire, I mean,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: think about having a bonfire in the middle of town.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: You can't hide that.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Now's going to be big.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: So I mean it's going to be the police are
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: going to be called, the fire Department's going to be called,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: so these have public and then of course being surrounded
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: by Palacidians. They know that that has to happen on
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: the on the amount of Olives, so it cannot be
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: done in a secret. So everything got squashed. So all
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: that being said, that that status quo maintained all the
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: way through the end until January twentieth, just a few
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: weeks ago, because they know, well Biden's out, now Trump
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: is in. So with Trump already providing weapons and releasing
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: all the ones that they paid for, what I believe
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: is happening is you still have the the ceasefire with Lebanon,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: and you have this the negotiations and the releases of
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: hostages with Hamas so over the next few months, as
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: that situation potentially settled, the security situation is going to settle,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: So it doesn't need to happen at Passover. That that
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: was just something that was suggested. But any of the fall,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: any of the feasts of Israel throughout the year is
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: when they prefer to have it because there's a lot
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: of interest in what's happening in the festivals, and so
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: they're thinking, well, wouldn't it be great and one of
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: the major festivals, whether that's passed Over or Pentecosts or
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: even the fall feasts of Rashashanah, you know, tabernacles, exentual
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: feast of weeks let's or you know whatever, just having the.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Beneficial for them to have it, like they kind of
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: not that they have to, but they would want to.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Is that what you're kind of driving at.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Yes, that they have said that they want to coincide
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: it with other festivals so that the excitement is there
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: and there's an interest in them and let's do the ceremony.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: So with Trump now in the rabbis man, they their
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: mood has shifted. They're living on cloud nine and believing
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: that this could be the year. There let me just
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: say this that they will. The other risk is most
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: people talk about is the longer they wait, the longer
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: there's a potential for the three remaining redheifers to become disqualified.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: So there again, there's no upper age limit, simply just
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: getting older, okay, you know, getting gray hair, you know,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: as things happen when you get older. So these animals
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: potentially could that could be modified. So it isn't their
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: best interest to do it sooner rather than later. But
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: they have shifted to say we want all of the
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: rabbis to buy in, which the rabbis currently fight amongst
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: each other just like the Pharisees and the Sadducees did
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: in the first century.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Nothing's changed, nothing's changed.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: They have factions, and so what they want is if
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: they do the ceremony, they want it to be accepted
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: by the other factions. Will that be the case? So
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: they're trying to build a consensus on this. Who knows
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: how far that is happening and when it will. But nevertheless,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: the Trump now that Trump's in, we have a four
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: year window so to speak of high anticipation.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I would say so.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: And then I remember you saying this too, that I've
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: seen this, seen you mention this in a couple of
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: different interviews that Benjamin not in Yahoo almost feels like
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: he's like divinely called to see the temple rebuilt.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Hopefully I didn't make.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: That too extreme with the wording, but I feel like
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: I've heard you say something to that degree that he
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: feels very called to be a part of getting this done.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Yes, I have that from a first hand source from
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Robert mcwarri, who was involved in the finding of the
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Red Heppers and he's a well known, you know, well
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: known person. He's been recognized by Israel for his contributions,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: one of the top fifty you know whatever. And he said, Mondo,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm on a first name basis from that now.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: And I said, well, can I show this? He goes, Yeah,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: he goes Ntan Yahoo told me privately between him and I.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's public information now, but that he said, Robert,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: I feel that that God has called me to be
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: the prime minister who helps rebuild the Third Temple. Now
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: is you know, I don't know people's hearts. I don't
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: know what the motive is. He's being truthful, is he
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: being a politician? I don't know. Nevertheless, Robert said he
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: didn't hit to his ears. This is what Natan Yahoo
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: told him. So to me, you know, that doesn't necessarily
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: mean that it's it's fact in the sense of God's perspective,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: but at least he has spoken that he feels to
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: be led in that direction.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Wow, that's wild.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: And then okay, so you mentioned the shelf life. They
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: don't have a shelf life. The main thing would to
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: be concerned about would be aging and just blemish is occurring,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: that sort of thing. So that's why it's probably not
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: in the best interest to keep waiting. So do you think,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: just in what all of you know, do you feel
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: like we could see something happen?
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: It pass over this year?
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: You know, I would think that that's the desire to me.
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  Speaker 1: Passovers in April, so that's only three months from now
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: or so, you know, not being a prophet, but geopolitically,
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  Speaker 1: I would be reluctant to think it would happen that soon,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: only because there's so much to get done in order
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: to bring calm to the hamas situation. I do think
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: after this, this upcoming ceasefire is completed in the hostages
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: are there, and once Israel realizes that there are no
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: more living hostages, then I think, as Trump said his words,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: all hell is going to break loose because who will
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: not cannot And Trump has said the same thing. Hamas
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: has no future there And so sadly you could see
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: this again geopolitically, that Trump is trying to to transplant
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: those that are in God's to different parts of the world,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: whether even it's Jordan or Egypt, even to Albania. He's
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: trying to find countries who are willing to take some
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: of these people. Honestly, I feel bad, and you see
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: the different ways. I feel bad for the Palicine people
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  Speaker 1: there because they are they are under the oppression of Hamas.
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  Speaker 1: No doubt many of them would would. There's nothing there
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: that they're they're they're going back to their place in
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: the north. It's all. There's nothing. Houses are gone because
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Hamas is hijacked, hospitals, kindergartens, schools. Uh. These are wicked,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: wicked people and that are oppressing their own people. And
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: of course when you're an oppressed people, they're more oppressed
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: by Hamas than they are by Israel. That is just
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: a fact because in what you do see is videos
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: coming out where these these humanitarian aid trucks are coming in.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: The average person that's just a family, is trying to
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: go there and they're getting beaten or killed by Hamas
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: who are confiscating all this aid and not allowing the
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: people to have it in order to perpetuate their own,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: you know, r terrorist ambitions and to have supplies. So
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: they don't really care about the people. And there's others,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: you know, honestly, there's others in the civilian population who
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: are are loyal to Hamas sadly uh. And so you
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: know what Trump is thinking, if you want to leave,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: we want to find places for you leave. Because in
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: many ways, if you go back to even the United
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Nations Resolutions nineteen forty seven and others, there is a
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Palestinian state it's called Jordan. It was the Palestinian state
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: going all the way back to the foundations of Israel
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: and again by the United Nations themselves. So but Jordan
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: doesn't want them because they also know the reading. Jordan
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: kicked them out in ancient not ancient times, but in
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: the past is because you had political factions like Hamas
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: who threatened to disrupt and overthrow the king that has
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: the the Hashmi Kingdom. So they don't want them there
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  Speaker 1: because they're troublemakers. Hamath has caused trouble wherever they go,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: so it's no surprise then that Jordan doesn't want them either.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: But if we're going to be honest, Jordan was the
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: original palicitate in state, so they have a state already. Wow.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, before we move on to our next topic,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: which is about the oligarchs, is there anything else that
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: you think is worthy of us knowing or just kind
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: of paying attention to on the landscape out there, for
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: you know, the coming Third Temple and just the whole
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: red Heifer situation at there.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: I think that one of the things I've been discussing
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: lately at many of our conferences is for the Christian
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: who believes there's a future for Israel, national Israel, we
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: know that Romeans eleven twenty six and other passages, we
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: know that God has not done and they have a future.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Is for us to walk and navigate the waters very
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: carefully theologically, not only from the Old Testament, from this
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: primarily the New Testament that Roman's eleven says quite clearly
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: that the gifts and the calling of God are revocable.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: But what we see there, Paul saying again in the
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: fifties AD, Israel at that time as a nation was
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  Speaker 1: a rebel. They rebelled against Jesus his messiah ship. They
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: got judged in seventy e d. But there are always believers,
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  Speaker 1: Jewish believers. And Paul says, look, he's writing to the
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  Speaker 1: Romans for your sake, for the sake of the Gospel.
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  Speaker 1: They are enemies. They reject Jesus, they deny Jesus, they
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: reject the Gospel. And that is true. But for the
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: sake of election, they are still beloved. And so when
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: we look at Israel today, we recognize Israel is not
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: a perfect nation. It rejects the Gospel, it rejects Jesus.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Sometimes the government will hinder Christian Christian evangelism. We know
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: that the government of Israel is very into LGBTQ. It's
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: very secular, it has a lot of immoral positions. So
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: we don't deny any of that. For the sake of
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: the Gospel. Their enemies, but for the sake of their election.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: God has chosen them, they are beloved, and it doesn't
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: say they were beloved.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Now they come in unbelief. Yeah, I mean they'll be
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: rebuilt in unbelief.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Yes, for sure, they come back and unbelief. So if
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: you look at Romans nine, you know, Paul says, man,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: I'm so sorrowful for them, and I just want them
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: to be saved. But to them belong the adoption, the covenants,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: the promises. It wasn't past tense. He does not use
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: past tense there. So even in the midst of their
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: rebellion in fifty three a d. When he's writing this,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: they were still beloved. They weren't cast away as God
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: cast aways people by no means. As a nation. He's
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: very clearly this is not about individuals. This is about
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: a nation. So I think for us as Christians, when
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: we try to teach others, even other Christians that don't
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: believe in the future for Israel, that there is a
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: future for national Israel, that it's not over. We haven't
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: replaced them. Often what you see in other Christians is
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: they bring up all the negatives. Oh, you're saying that
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: that God's blessing the nation of Israel today when it's LGBTQ.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: It's just have you read the Old Testament. Think about
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: what they were doing in the Old Testament when they
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: rebelled against God or they got cast off into Babylon.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: They're having all these wicked ceremonies in the temple itself.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Read the Book of.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: Ezekiel sacrificing their own kids to mol off. Yeah.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So you look at this and you go, were
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: they still God's covenant people, chosen people? Then yes, just
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: because they're wicked doesn't mean that the promises have been revoked.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: And that's true in the Old Testament, it's true in
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: the first century when Paul's talking about it, and it's
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: true in the twenty first century. So I think if
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: we navigate the waters carefully, we can recognize that, yes,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Israel has ways to go. They're in unbelief, they're in
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: a state of rebellion and wickedness against God, but they're
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: still His covenant people, and they have a future and
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: God is going to restore them when they come to
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: faith in Jesus. There's not any other way. But that's
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: the whole purpose of the True Relation period. The seventies
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Week of Daniel is to humble them Daniel twelve seven.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Daniel says, the Angel says that Daniel, Look, there's gonna
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: be a time of trouble coming for the Jewish people,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: that is, and really we know it extends to the
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: world during the Book of Revelation. That power of the
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Holy People will be shattered, but they will come to
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: faith and trust in Jesus by the end of that period.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: So God bringing Israel back after eighteen hundred years, nineteen
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: hundred years to the land given in the land in unbelief,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: not because they deserve it. They belong there because the
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: promise is not because they deserve it. He's doing this.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: There's a future for them, and right now they trust
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: in themselves, they don't trust in the God of Israel.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: So I think, as we think about the whole topic
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: of the Third Temple, this is Christian prophecy. Daniel spoke
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: about it too, it's Biblical prophecy. But we also recognize
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: that what we when we look at Israel today, it
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: is not what they're going to be. Not make that
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: mistake of thinking just because they're in a state of
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: unbelief and rebellion that this is what God is doing.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: God is just like in the Old Testament. God is
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: going to humble them. Read the Book of Judges. He's
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: going to give them oppression. They're getting oppressed right now.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, what we see right now. It's interesting to
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: me that if you look at the trouble that they're
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: getting from the people like ha Haamas, read the Book
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: of Judges, who is harassing them in that time? The Philistines,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: where do they live, Gaza, It's a complete cycle. God
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: allows these things in order to get their attention. Just
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: like in the Book of Judges, they didn't hear it
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: the first time, and so God allows the oppression, oppression
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: to go up. Ultimately, the greatest oppression for Israel is
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: going to happen during the tribulation by the Antichrist, and
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: they're going to call out on the name of Jesus
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: by the end and God, when the Bible says a
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Romans eleven twenty six, all Israel be saved, it will
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: be fulfilled, and therefore God will rescue them. Jesus will
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: rescue them, and they will forever be in a state
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: of joy and blessing and belief in their Messiah Jesus.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's a literal statement.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: I mean Jesus said, I will not come back for
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: you until you cry out blessed is He's the.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: Name of the Lord.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: So that is a literal state, like can come back
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: until the Jews cry out for him. The second thing
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: that I think is important to note, and I see
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: this a lot in my space just because of you know,
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: we have a lot of people that are just searching
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: for truth right now. But man, the anti Semitism is
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: on a rampage and arise, and I see so many
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: people that want to try to discredit the things that
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: you and I are talking about here because the Rockefellers had,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: you know, a part in you know, the state of
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Israel coming back to be and the roth Childs and
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: who all is involved. And my big thing is is like,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: if you know your Bible, then you see that God
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: allowed wicked men to be used to serve his purposes
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: at times, and this is one of those instances. The
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: bottom line is is that the Prophecy's in there and
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: it's been fulfilled to the letters, so it doesn't matter
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: who is a part of it. And I get really
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: tired of seeing that argument that that somehow disqualifies what
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: is happening right now. And if so, how do you
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: explain all the things that are going on right now
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: that are leading to the fulfillment of things that we're
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: talking about on here today. That presents a bigger problem.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: It's a very myopic view of the Bible in that
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: the people get stuck in these very narrow things and
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: you think, Okay, I hear what he's saying. I'm not
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: denying the facts of what you're saying, right, But it's like,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: well don't. I don't say this in the mean way,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: but it's like, have you not read the rest of
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: the Bible. If you go back Assyria and Isaiah chapter ten,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: it's Assyria was his was He says, it's my servant,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: And Assyria came and judged the Northern kingdom and removed
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: it Nebukenezer my servant. God uses look at people. So
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: the fact that if people can read a it's equal
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: thirty six, thirty seven, thirty eight, all these passes. God
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: is the one claiming I have I've brought my people
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: back to the land. Now, granted they are in unbelief,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: but yes, God uses wicked people all the time to
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: accomplish his purposes. In fact, we know that the nation
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: of Israel was founded by seculars and atheists. Okay, even
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: going back to Theodore Hertzel, he didn't do it because
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: he was necessarily religious at all. He recognized that the
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: persecution was going on, and so he had that goal.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: So yes, God uses unbelievers to accomplish his prophetic means.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, look at Jesus being born in Bethlehem. He
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: used a pagan king Proverbs twenty one. The heart of
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: the king is in the hand of the Lord. He
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: moves it wherever. Once he moved Augustus to create a census,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: which moved Joseph and Mary down. So people, I think,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: need to think a little broader, more theological simply in
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: the most narrow sense that these are wicked people, duh,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, tell us something that we don't already know.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: I think as well for those that try to say
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: that because Israel, or that the people in Israel the
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: land of Israel or not real Jews, I just prophecywatchers
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: dot com slash Jews. I have a whole series of
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: articles there on debunking all of that Kazarian myth and
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: even the Roschales. It's like, who cares again, what you're
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: saying does not disrupt because at the end of the day,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: we know genetic studies the Jews there are connected all
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: the way back. That is undeniable. But even if we
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: didn't have that, when God says I will bring back
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: my people from all the countries of the world onto
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: the mountains which had long been desolate for two thousand years,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: I think God knows who his people are, and he
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: knows their genetics, and if he brought them back in
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: his sovereignty, I think God has it figured out. So
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: I don't care even if the genetics wasn't there or provable.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: God has said I'll bring him back, and it's a
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: fact that's happened, and God knows.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: That's enoughing exactly right, aim into that. I'll add that
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: link down in the description box too, so people can
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: go click that. Okay, So the second topic we were
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: going to cover today was the mystery of the Ten Kings.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: This one is a bit fast to me, so I'm
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: going to give a little biblical context for the ten Kings.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: So the first thing is going to be a scripture
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: reference from Daniel seven to twenty four, so it says
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: the ten horns are ten kings who shall rise from
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: this kingdom, and another shall rise after them. He shall
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: be different from the first one and first ones, and
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: he shall subdue three kings. And then Revelation seventeen twelve says,
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: the ten horns which you saw are ten kings who
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: for one hour as kings with the beast. So can
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: you set the stage explaining the biblical references to the
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: ten kings and Daniel and Revelation, And then, of course,
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: how how do these passages describe their role in the
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: end times?
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Will you read verse thirteen as well.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: Which one of Revelation?
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Yees, yeah, because seventeen twelve and thirteen give a like
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: a cumulative effort, and it there's no doubt he's describing
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: from Daniel seven, no doubt. And so this, to me,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: this is the most important part of it is twelve
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: and thirteen. So maybe flowing again if you don't mind.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Together, Yeah, absolutely, so we'll go from twelve. So the
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: one hour as kings with the beast. Thirteen These are
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  Speaker 2: of one mind, and they will give their power and
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: authority to the beast.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, so what the reason why this comes up? And
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: I'm glad that people are interested in this because the
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: let's just talk about for a moment, the traditional approach. Yep,
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: the traditional interpretation has always been and it really was
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: rooted in the in the in the Club of Rome,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Club of Rome, going back in the late sixties and
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: early seventies, they come up there globalist group. They came
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: up with this idea of dividing the world into ten regions,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: and so prophecy teachers at the time jumped on that
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: and were like, hey, ten regions, this goes right along
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: with the ten Kings. Okay. So then now that that
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: interpretation is very pervasive, and so now when we see
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: any discussion of a North American union or South American
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: union or even bricks to some degree, which bricks really
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: doesn't fit in it specifically because it doesn't follow the
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Club of Rome's designations. The African Union. We see African Union,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Asia Union, you see European Union. So there's no doubt
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: you see some of these conglomerates. Okay. So now when
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: you see like for example, Trump talk about having Canada
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: as a fifty first stage. Yeah. People man are jumping
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: on this.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, same, I'm going that's regionalism. What are we doing?
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the beginning of that. This is the
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: beginning of the fulfillment of that concept. Well, I think
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: that concept is not denying that the Club of Rome
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: has that that's a fact. But I think it's erroneous
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: because you read it. These are kings with no kingdom.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: So if you are a king, as an example, over
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: South America, you have a kingdom, you have a region.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: These are kings with no kingdom. It is clear in
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: the text they do not receive their royalty or their
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: ability to rule until they make an agreement with the Antichrist,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: and it says they hand over to him. They have
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: one purpose. They hand over to him their power or
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: their authority, or their capabilities or their whatever over to
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: them and in order to rule with him. So that
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: kingdom there, any kingdom that they might have, is not
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: going to happen until the end or I would say
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: the midpoint of the tribulation period. So what the kings
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: are It says these are kings that are without a kingdom.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: So I guess what I'm saying is when we see
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: these things, people assume, well, okay, naturally to progress, if
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: you have a South American union, there's going to be
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: one leader over that. Well, now, all of a sudden,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: that disregard scripture because they don't have that. Now, if
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: people wanted to make the claim that they that these
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: regions are established after the midpoint and then they get
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: the rulership as a king over there, that's fine with me.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: But the fact of the matter is when you look
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: at all of this, the revived the Beast system we
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  Speaker 1: know from the Book of Daniel chapter two and others,
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: is a revived Roman system. It's very clear that the
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: Fourth Beast and Daniel chapter two, the Two Legs of Iron,
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: as well as Daniel seven, that it has its time,
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: and it's unusual in that it had its system and
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: it disintegrated in the fifth century AD, at least in
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: the west, and it was a Mediterranean based system. The
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: prince that is coming comes from that system Daniel nine
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: twenty fourth through twenty seven, so he's part of that.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: So it's the main b system is not even necessarily
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: divided up into these regions. The Bible never says it's interesting.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: I have a quote from John Walvard where he says,
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: the text clearly says that these are kings with over
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: countries or regions. That doesn't say that.
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it does. The text definitely doesn't.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: This is why it's fascinating to me to look at
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: what we're about to get into with the auduscs.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So the second thing then this, So as I
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: was thinking through this, Gary and I were talking if
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: this is four years ago now. He's like, hey, you know,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: you know, what do you think about it? Do you
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: think these are maybe oligarchs or technocrats? And I said, well,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: let let's let let me let's examine the text and see.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: And so the first thing we saw there was the
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Revelation seventeen twelve. These are kings with no kingdom. You're like, okay,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: well that's a little odd. And then the second thing
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: we did is we looked in the lexicon. People can
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: look this up. It's b d ag. It's when you're
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: in seminary and you're taking Greek, you look at Lexican
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: little in scott you look at other lexicon. The greatest
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: lexicon up to date is the is the b dag.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: They call it b dag it's just the names of
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: the people that wrote this b d Ag And so
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: in there what they do is they look at all
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: of the instances in literature in the Coine Area, New Testament, Greek,
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: et cetera, even in classical Greek to some ways, and
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: they said, look, what we know is that the word
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: basilais in Greek, its primary use is referring to a
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: king of a kingdom, Charles over the United Kingdom, et cetera.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: You know, the Roman emperor over all the different Roman geography.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: It comes with geography. That's the whole point. But they
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: said this, we also see that the word basilais can
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: also mean one who exhibits unusual power in a transcendent way.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: Not a king over a region, but someone who simply
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: has an unusual form of influence or power. And so
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: I was like, hey, if we look at today's world
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: and we go back, for example, to twenty twenty which
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: is when you know, Gary and I were discussing this
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, who are some people that had
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: unusual influence? Because if we talk about power, if I
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: have power over you, I can influence you. I could
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: for example, I could we see this, I'll give you
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: one real example, jeffez Bezos. He comes in and he
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: buys the Washington Post with money. Okay, he uses his
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: money to gain what to gain power or influence. And
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: so now if anybody wants to write an article that's
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: critical of him, the editor squashes it and says sorry,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: and they go, hey, the writer says, I stand by this,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: I have the facts, I got the receipts. I'm exposing him.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: He says, yeah, if you expose that, you won't have
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: a job, and I won't have a job, and there
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: will be no more. So we're not publishing that. And
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: so simply by money, whether it's lobbying or congommerations or bribery,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: you name it. So and I have articles in my
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: presentation on this. Even Politico, which is not a a
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: right wing it's a left wing or media, they wrote
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: an article back in twenty one saying why why has
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Bill Gates? How does Bill Gates have the ability to
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: influence governments of the world, the European Union, the UK,
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: places in Africa? Why he's got money? And so what
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: you see is these oligarchs, these oligarch simple means just
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: rule by a few Yeah, SMA having control, which is
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: the definition of the Ten Kings. So what you see
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: is these these unusual figures. I call them the ten
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Influencers rather than the ten Kings. They are ten influencers
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: with no region, They don't have a kingdom that they're
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: ruling over. And so the question that you have is
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: who are some of the greatest influencers over governments today? Well,
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: certainly Bill Gates, certainly Jeff Bezos wan Elon Musk look
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: at him. Now, he's a Trump. He influenced the election,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: no doubt with his influence with Twitter and now ax
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: et cetera. He's he's influencing the government of the United
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: k government in order to reopen investigation simply by interviewing people.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: You have these non governmental people, including Klaus Schwab, World
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: Economic Forum, these non governmental people who are involved in
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: all things technology, and they're influencing world governments, the World
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: Health Organization, other organizations in order to accomplish their globalist agenda.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: Now isn't that interesting?
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: It is, and it seems that's that's ramping up.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: And so that was my next piece was, you know,
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: we do see the rise of all of these techno rats.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: You know, you've got Elon Gates, and I even put
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: Klaus Schwab in there because he's not a figurehead.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: He's not liked by people.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: He's liked by his you know, his cohorts, I suppose,
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: but by us, you know, the peons that they they
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: kind of want to run around. He's not liked by
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: all of us, but he is still very influential obviously
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: with the wef and they do wield a massive amount
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: of power and influence, and it is wild to me
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: how they are really influencing the way the governments of
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: the world are working. So, you know, these type of
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: individuals definitely seem like it could be a fit there.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: And then of course I had written here that Revelation
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: seventeen thirteen says that they are of one mind and
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: give their power and authority over to the beast. What
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: kind of power and capabilities might these figures bring to
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: the antichrist system?
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, this is beautiful because we don't have to guess
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: on this because, for example, in Revelation thirteen, we see
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: three things that appear. People can look at the word authority,
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: the word worship, you have buying and selling. So there's
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: three main things that describe the beast system there. One
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: is worship, so there's a religious system there. Another one
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: is it dominates the entire world. But we know there's resistors.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: For example, well, China is going to resist all over
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: the Kings of the East. We see that there's other
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: people that resist, but the centralized focus is rule denomination,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: a centralized form of a revived Roman empire, and no doubt,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: primarily over Israel in the Mediterranean Basin, which again is
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: exactly what we saw with the Fourth Beast of Daniel
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: chapter two and and others. Okay, so but here's the
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: thing is, so you have economics there. It's long been
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: known by prophecy teachers that in order to establish a
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: mark which is able to provide to prohibit buying and selling,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: you could always have the ability black markets, et cetera.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: If you're using cash or gold or bartering, and so
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: Bible teachers have said, hey, one of the best ways
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: that this can happen is through a caste of society
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: where everything's tracked, et cetera. So you have a tracking No,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: there's no doubt if the if it's forced, this mark
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: is forced, you need the ability to track people to
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: enforce to have records of buying and selling, control, surveillance, etc.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: All these other things. So you have that just from
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: a logical inference of reading Revelation thirteen. Okay, Well, then
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: you come on the scene the globalist Claus Schwap. Okay,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: he's written many books, The Great Reset, the Fourth Industrial Revolution. Well,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: when you read his books, he says quite clearly, if
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: you look at the appendix of his book, I believe
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: it's the Fourth Industrial Revolution, or might even be the
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: Great Reset. He says, Look, our goal is globalism. Our
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: goal is to bring everybody together. But in order to
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: accomplish that, we know that we cannot do it without technology.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: And so he lists twenty one different technologies that they
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: are seeking to support and implement through all of the
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: various ways in order to accomplish the globalist agenda. Because
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: and again, censorship control flow of information, whether it's artificial intelligence,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: which allowsows you to crunch all the data that's happening
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: that you get from surveillance, cameras, internets, emails, you name it,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: all the way around. Okay, So he lists quantum computing,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: he lists all of these things. Okay, So he says
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: quite clearly, let's say he was the Antichrist. I don't
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: think he is. Let's just say he was, Hey, everybody,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: I want to establish my system, but I need technology. Okay,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: but he's only one person, So then what do you have?
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: So what will you have in Revelations seventeen thirteen is
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: you have these ten figures that come to him. And
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: we know in verse twelve that they basically make an
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: agreement and they don't have a kingdom. They're non governmental
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: people of a region, but they make an agreement in
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: order to get their ability to rule with the Antichrist
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: for a short time. It says an hour. I don't
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: think it's sixty minutes. It's just the word aura can
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: mean an indefinite period, but a time period. So what
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: you have then is the Antichrist coming on the scene.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: The ten Kings are on the scene first, and Daniel seven,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: it says, is that the Antichrist arises out of that
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: after them, So they're on the scene first. So when
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: he comes to his position, he comes and he says, hey,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: I have this idea and I'm going to consolidate my power,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: but I need surveillance. I need starlink, I need ability
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: to track the world. I need economic exchanges like PayPal
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: or even x is Musca's desire to make it an exchange.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: We see this already happening in China with Ali Baba
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: on these apps. Most there's so many Casha societies are
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: Casha cities in China already that if you go there
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: and you know you have to use the app, okay,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: so it's automatic. You go there with cash, your debt, Okay,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: you're not going to make anything. So what he does
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: is he's like, oh, but I need to control information
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: and censorship. Oh well we got now, we have x
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: we have Google, we have all the things we saw
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two and twenty three Facebook. So imagine
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: him coming and saying I need all this yeah, and
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: these guys come and they go, we can help you.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: Let's make an agreement. If you let us rule with you,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: we'll allow you access to all of our tech, which
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Klaus Schwab has already said is that's how they can
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: accomplish it. So what we have is these unimaginable wealth
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: like musk is now worth four hundred and twenty one billion. Okay,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: no one's got that number so far. And if you
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: look at the top ten you'll see there's there's one
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: non American, one European on there, but all the rust
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: of them are all the same culprits, okay, and they
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: are the ones that are at the forefront of artificial intelligence,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: quantum computing, all the censorship, et cetera. And they come
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: along and they say, hey, I can provide this. They
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: make an agreement, they give it says, they give their
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: power and their authority or capabilities over to him. To me,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: what's a guy. I mean, let's say you have a
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: president of South America. Okay, so he's a single guy
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: in a government, a a regional government position. Okay, he
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: still can't do without technology. So you look and say,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: what can he really offer. I mean, as he can
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: offer that dictatorial power, but that's over region. But he
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: has a kingdom. These are kings without a kingdom that
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: come and offer. So this idea of this concept. I'm
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: not saying that I'm dogmatic and you have to believe
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: this to be saved.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, this is just fun to talk about, No,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: for sure, Yeah it really is, especially with that's very well.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: It really does.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: And I think you know, I was thinking too, you know,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: because I am watching the whole regionalism conversation that Trump
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: is doing. And it sounds like from you kind of
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: already answered this earlier, but just to make sure that
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: it's out there. But Trump, you know, he's pushing policies
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: towards regionalism. And I had one time speculated, I wonder,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: you know, because I wasn't thinking about the kings was
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: out a kingdom. I at one time was just thinking,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: I wonder if he could be one of those ten
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: kings if it is, or you know, like because if
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: he's doing that, that could align with that traditional view.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: But it almost seems like that could conflict with technocrats.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't think it's Uh, I don't. Well
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: let me let me say this way. Are they mutually
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: exclusive of the views? Well, they're pretty strongly opposed in
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: how they interpret things. Now, at the end of the day,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: when the Antichrist gets his full authority, we've got to
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: remember that when he comes on the scene, he has
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: some sort of position to make a covenant with Israel
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: and Daniel nine twenty seven whatever. It doesn't even need
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: to be. I don't think it's a political covenant. I
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: think he's endorsing the mosaic covenant to be re established.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: That's clear, I think from the context. And so that
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: being the case, when he let me, I got a sneeze.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: I think, sorry, oh you're good.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: We'll bless you if you do.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: Get it out here. So what what what Bible teachers
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: know is that his the first three and f years
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: is not full blown dictatorship. He's on the scene, he's
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: he's he's establishing himself, and he's integrating it because his
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: point of complete domination, according to Revelation twelve and thirteen,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: is in the midpoint his wound is healed, and then
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: he declares himself to be God, abomination of desolation, and
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: then it says quite clearly his rulership is for forty
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: two months. We see that in the Book of Daniel
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: as well, that he's going to rule from as a
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: full dictator over the world time time and half of
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: time three and a half years. So, however, let me
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: just say this that how he rules, does he then
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: divide the world up into ten regions? I don't know
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: what his organizational strategy is that I don't even care
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: necessarily about that. That doesn't violate I think my view
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: of the ten figures the ten rulers. In this regard,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: he should have some organization. But what we do know
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: is that the typical club of Rome doesn't fit because
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: you have outliers again, kings of the East and others,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: the king from the south. You have people that are
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: not going to respect his domination and they're going to
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: resist it. But nevertheless he's given. And let me say this,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: Oftentimes when we look at prophetic phrases of the kingdom
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: ruling over the devours the whole earth, we we we
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: that clearly cannot mean every last individual, because you have resistors.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: And so what you have is the Bible giving speaking
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: in generalities at times like you know, like for example,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: you know when when the three well not the three,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: when the when the when the Magi came to Israel
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: or it came to Jerusalem and talked to Herod. It
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: says Herod was troubled in all Jerusalem with him. Well,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: does all mean every last individual? No, it doesn't need
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: to mean that. And so what we do know is
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: that in Revelation thirteen that you have the domination of
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: the antichrist uh involving all tribes, tongue, and people's people groups.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: So you have these broad terms that are used. It
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean every last single individual in the world,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: but neverthless, we'll see as we progress further how this
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: comes to play. But it's it's an exciting concept. I
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: think it's got some biblical defense. And now Musk, I mean,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: we don't have King Trump. Some people like to say that,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: but Musk is not sitting at the right hand of
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: King Trump. He's involved, he's not even getting paid for
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: his position. But there's no doubt he's got tremendous influence.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he definitely does for sure, you know, and
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: he seems very confident about what he wants to get
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: done and all of that as well. Yeah, so it'll
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: be interesting to see how it plays out. And I
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: think the big thing is is that we know, as
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: you know, pre tribulation rapture believers that you know, the
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: ten Kings are going to be coming before the Antichrist.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: So it's something that because we're not going to see
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: the Antichrist, like he could be on the scene right
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: now all but we are not going to know exactly
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: who he is. I know people get asked that all
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: the time. Who do you think the antichrisis well, I
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: don't know, there's some people that are in the running,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: but we'll just leave it at that. But you know,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: we can we can possibly see this whole ten king situation,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: you know, rising, and so it's very interesting to watch.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: So before I open up for questions, what would you
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: say the most important thing for believers would be a
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: takeaway if they're going to, you know, look at the
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: ten Kings and kind of study their role in prophecy,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: what would that What would that be?
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: I think there's two things that obviously we know one
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: hundred percent fact. Jesus is the Messiah. He's the savior,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: for salvation is found through him alone. That's not up
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  Speaker 1: for debate when it comes to other prophetic scenarios. It's
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  Speaker 1: good to be humble, it's good to think, it's good
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  Speaker 1: to be open minded, not to be dogmatic, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: don't don't hold our views with a tight fist. Again,
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  Speaker 1: as as equivalent to Jesus being the Messiah, okay, we
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  Speaker 1: know that, and so in my regards, this gives us
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  Speaker 1: an opportunity to study scripture and to again, I don't
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  Speaker 1: like putting God in a box. I also like to
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  Speaker 1: challenge traditional viewpoints because it doesn't. It's not done in
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  Speaker 1: an arrogant sense. I just don't want to be blind
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  Speaker 1: and go, oh, well this is it, because well why
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  Speaker 1: is that? Well because those three teachers said it. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: and and even you know Wolvard and and White, Pentecost
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  Speaker 1: and others who I respect, I think we need to
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  Speaker 1: do our own homework. We need to be able to
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  Speaker 1: think outside the box and also but to stay scripture.
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  Speaker 1: So in this regard, this is why I'm My idea
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  Speaker 1: in this is not just based on what I want
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  Speaker 1: to see. I think again, we have as as we've
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  Speaker 1: been talking, these are kings without a kingdom, that basileas
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  Speaker 1: it certainly is defensible unusual power that it is unusual
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  Speaker 1: to have private. Let me just say it this way.
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  Speaker 1: One of the things that that came up was so
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  Speaker 1: powerful for me was a couple of years ago, well
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  Speaker 1: not a couple of years ago, last July and before
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  Speaker 1: I was speaking in Singapore, and I had been talking
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  Speaker 1: about this for a while, and I made the the
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  Speaker 1: this parable or I wouldn't say call it a prediction,
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  Speaker 1: but I said, let me give you an example. And
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  Speaker 1: this is powerful to me because I said, if there
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  Speaker 1: was an explosion on the International Space Station right now,
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  Speaker 1: the greatest superpower in the history of the world, which
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  Speaker 1: is America, couldn't do anything about it. There were sanctions
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  Speaker 1: on Russia. We weren't participating with Russia because of the
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  Speaker 1: war in Ukraine. I go, So it would be like, Houston,
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  Speaker 1: we have a problem. Oh wait, wait, wait, Elon, we
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  Speaker 1: have a problem. Because so the greatest superpower in the
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  Speaker 1: history of the world would be calling a private individual.
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  Speaker 3: I know, it's so bizarre to me.
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  Speaker 1: And you know what, two weeks later it happened. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it happened. I've been talking about this for eighteen months now.
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  Speaker 1: The exact situation happened where they called up Elon and
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  Speaker 1: Elon sent the Dragon ex capsule to go pick them
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  Speaker 1: up and they did. And so it's it's interesting to
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  Speaker 1: me to have the greatest governmental organization in the history
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  Speaker 1: of the world having to call a private individual. That
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  Speaker 1: is the definition of influence and power and capability and
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  Speaker 1: went an unusual way. Okay, So that's the definition of
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  Speaker 1: the word an unusual power. So I think as people
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  Speaker 1: as we continue to watch this, I think what I
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  Speaker 1: want people to walk away with is, hey, guys, it's
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  Speaker 1: exciting times. We are seeing if you go back twenty
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  Speaker 1: years ago, I mean, look, five years ago, Elon was
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  Speaker 1: worth twenty nine billion. Okay, that's not why. I mean
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  Speaker 1: not a lot, which is a lot. I mean it's
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: not all. He's worth four hundred and twenty billions, right,
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  Speaker 1: So if you go back twenty thirty, thirty years ago,
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  Speaker 1: you had rich people, but not like this. It's the
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  Speaker 1: Internet has allowed people to grow in these values and
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  Speaker 1: so we didn't have even the capability looking out word
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  Speaker 1: to try even understand what that Greek word could mean.
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  Speaker 1: Unusual power and abilities transcend it. See, that's the word transid.
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  Speaker 1: These are people without a kingdom. Their power and their
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  Speaker 1: influence is transcendent. That's not my word, that's the Greek
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  Speaker 1: lexicon people, that's their word. Where they have the ability
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  Speaker 1: to transcend. Their power can influence the UK, it can
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  Speaker 1: influence Africa, it can influence the United States government. So
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  Speaker 1: it transcends worldwide. To me, I hope people walk away
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  Speaker 1: and just go okay.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting about Yeah, And yesterday I saw a news article
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  Speaker 2: too that Bill Gates is possibly talking about I'm sorry, Microsoft,
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  Speaker 2: but Bill Gates is wanting to possibly pick up TikTok
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  Speaker 2: And I was like.
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  Speaker 3: That's interesting, you know. So it's just like it's just
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  Speaker 3: another just it's another coin on the table for that.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's just very interesting to me.
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  Speaker 1: Control to control information because again, I mean that's why dictators,
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  Speaker 1: if you go back to our America, they the King
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  Speaker 1: of England wanted to restrict the flow of information because
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  Speaker 1: that's how rebellions happened. And so that's why we have
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  Speaker 1: in the First Amendment. We realized, in order to cast
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: off tyranny, you have to be able to have the
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  Speaker 1: freedom of speech. That's the first thing that's going to
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  Speaker 1: be squashed by the antichrist yep for sure, and he's
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: going to have his buddies out there. Which was twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, COVID was a great example of how it
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  Speaker 1: was the It wasn't the governments necessarily, the governments went
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  Speaker 1: to the people, you know. And here Zuckerberg we saw
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  Speaker 1: last week, was crying foul. He's a victim. He's not a.
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  Speaker 2: Vicable I know, and I do not want to hear
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  Speaker 2: about that. Mark like, well, they were the main reason,
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  Speaker 2: like that our business got censored so much was because
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: we spoke up against the tyranny. And I mean they
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: shut our ads down for my husband's fitness business.
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  Speaker 3: It was insane.
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  Speaker 2: So I have I'm I am like, I don't care
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  Speaker 2: what he has to say at all. No, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: but okay, okay, it just.
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  Speaker 1: It just it helps us. We had we could we
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  Speaker 1: could tackle day in all these different scenarios. It just
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  Speaker 1: we had a we had an example of how these
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  Speaker 1: non governmental figures influenced transcendently the world.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're right, it wasn't the governments. They literally
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  Speaker 2: went to the you know, the people who could control
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  Speaker 2: the way information was being pushed out.