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  We will draw this city closer together.
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  Coast to coast and around the world from the America Out Loud Talk Radio Studios.
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  We will replace the frigidity of rugged individualism with the warmth of collectivism.
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  It's time for The Truth Be Told with Booker Scott.
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  I'm seeing it again on social media, just like in 2024 between Ron DeSanta supporters and President Donald Trump supporters.
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  They really went at each other.
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  And it was awful.
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  It was terrible.
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  I was a part of that as well on social media.
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  I my life was threatened.
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  I was publicly doxxed.
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  Someone threatened to tell everyone where my daughter went to school.
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  That's what's happening again on social media as we go into these primaries.
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  And I don't know if that is the smartest thing to do among conservatives at a time when uh we probably will lose the House of Representatives, possibly the Senate.
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  Right now is a time where we really need to get together, not tearing each other apart.
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  I'm Booker.
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  This is the truth be told.
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  And thank you for joining us.
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  I appreciate it.
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  The race I'm specifically talking about is what is happening in Kentucky with Thomas Massey and Ed Gallren.
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  He is a former Navy SEAL, and he is endorsed by Donald Trump in Gallren.
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  There has been Thomas Massey and obstructionists there for Donald Trump and his presidency, and he is really a libertarian.
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  Kind of like Rand Paul in Kentucky.
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  And don't get me wrong, Thomas Massey makes a lot of great points, and so does Rand Paul.
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  They both want uh small federal government, which I do too.
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  They also want accountability and transparency.
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  Guess what?
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  So do I.
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  But you cannot eat the elephant in one bite.
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  This country got to where it is now after years and years and decades and decades of people in Washington, D.C.
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  that looked out for their own interest and not the interests of the people.
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  You can't change that overnight.
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  If you go all the way back to the founding of this nation, it was never all or nothing, which is what so many people appear to want to have these days.
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  I'm gonna get into this Thomas Massey race here in a minute, specifically to look at Thomas Massey and what he has actually done because the vitriol on social media is astounding.
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  And it's very similar to 2024.
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  I don't believe we can afford to be that way right now.
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  Is it time for people like Rand Paul and uh Thomas Massey to get out of the way?
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  Run uh for the party that you actually represent, which is the Libertarian Party, not the Republican Party.
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  But they both do, and they both continue to obstruct when it comes to passing legislation and bills.
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  At a time when really we need to be taking one little bite at a time out of the elephant, not eating it all at one time.
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  But before I get to that race in Congressional District Four, which the primary is coming up next Tuesday, May 19th.
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  So yeah, you're gonna need to know about this race if you happen to be living in Kentucky 4, which is Northern Kentucky.
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  Before we go there, I want to go to the story about Arcadia, California mayor Eileen Wang.
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  She has been charged with acting as an illegal agent of the People's Republic of China, and the Mayor Wang admitted to acting as a foreign agent from at least 2020 through 2022, promoting PRC propaganda in the U.S.
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  and acting as PRC's direction to promote their interest.
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  She has agreed to resign from office, and she's also agreed to plead guilty.
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  Just more evidence there of Chinese infiltrating America.
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  What about the data centers?
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  What do you hear about this?
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  It's in the news a lot, and it has a lot to do with artificial intelligence, artificial general intelligence.
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  And if you have not bought my book yet, I really wish I could give it away to everyone.
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  I just can't afford it.
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  That would cost me money as well.
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  But you can go to Amazon, put my name in there, Booker Scott, and you can find a book about artificial intelligence that we wrote last year and was published at the end of July, July 27th, 2025.
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  It has all five star reviews.
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  The name of it is The Fight for the Future of Humanity, making a case for the 28th Amendment.
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  You can learn all about artificial intelligence, artificial general intelligence, pseudo-consciousness, and what we can do about it, which is the 28th Amendment to the U.S.
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  Constitution.
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  Learn about it.
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  Learn about AI.
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  Don't be afraid of it.
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  Understand that by 2030, the worldwide global economy for AI is going to be 15.7 to 22.3 trillion dollars, and with that much money behind anything, things are gonna go bad.
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  But let's get back to the data centers.
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  Let's go to the story in Georgia.
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  Tonight, Cowita County has given the green light for the construction of a massive 17 billion dollar data center.
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  The Board of Commissioners voted last night to rezone the 800 acres of land despite fierce opposition in the county.
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  Now plans for the data center called Project Sale are full steam ahead, apparently.
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  Tonight, Foxhouse Rob Durienzo is at the live desk with a look at where residents are taking their fight now.
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  Rob That's right, Russ.
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  Good evening to you.
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  Well, it was standing room only at this Board of Commissioners meeting in Cowita County over this massive data center.
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  And after hearing from residents Tuesday night, the commissioners voted three to two to approve the rezoning.
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  This is a no-brainer for the county.
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  And I will stake my political career on it.
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  If you could you can run against me now.
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  A tense vote Tuesday night in Cowita County as commissioners advanced plans for the 17 billion dollar data center called Project Sale.
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  It's nine buildings, more than four million square feet, would require more power than the output of a nuclear reactor.
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  It's the right site for a data center project.
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  It would require more electricity and energy than a nuclear reactor.
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  This data center.
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  This is one data center.
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  This is in Georgia that this council is discussing and voted on.
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  This is one data center.
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  Look at how many data centers are in states.
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  Go to Texas.
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  Look at the hundreds that are there.
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  Have you heard the sound that comes from data centers?
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  By the way, what about water?
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  What about the water that is used to cool data centers?
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  At a time when a lot of the nation right now happens to be in a drought.
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  Do you think this is the time that you should be using all of that fresh water to cool data centers?
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  This is something you need to understand.
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  Understand you need to learn about it because it's coming to your community if it hasn't already.
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  You need to learn about it because it's coming to your community if it hasn't already.
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  Not only that, what about the cost?
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  Not only that, what about it uh the cost?
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  What about the cost of electricity?
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  What about the cost of electricity?
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  You're gonna pay for these things.
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  You're gonna pay for these things.
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  The government isn't paying for this.
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  The government isn't paying for this.
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  You are paying for data centers.
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  You are paying for data centers.
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  Well, the head of the company behind the plan, Prologist, says it will boost the local economy.
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  Well, the head of the company behind the plan, Prologist says it will boost the local economy.
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  Residents organized a campaign against it.
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  Residents organize to campaign against it.
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  Fighting it tooth and nails.
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  Fighting it tooth and nails.
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  It creates an industrial Allen in a sea of non-industrial land.
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  It creates an industrial Allen in a sea of non industrial land.
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  This proposed
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  This proposed development is just twelve hundred feet from Arcosargent of Elementary School.
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  And only nine hundred and fifty feet from a daycare.
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  Those residents opposed to the project wore red, arguing the jobs it would bring would only be temporary.
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  Those in favor, like Chad Caldwell wore blue.
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  He thinks the county could seize on the money coming from Silicon Valley.
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  I know we need more money in this county.
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  I know we need to work on roads.
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  We need to build bridges when he schools.
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  And uh I think we're looking at that is what's driving a big deal of this, and that is the fear of losing in this twenty first century arms race that is all about artificial intelligence and data.
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  Data centers.
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  What do you think data centers do exactly?
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  Well, one thing they do is they have all of your information, every bit of it.
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  And you worry about legislation and people like Rand Paul and Thomas Massey and others.
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  I I worry about it too.
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  Who has my information?
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  But I already know they have it.
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  Let's just understand that they have your information.
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  There's nothing you can do to stop it unless you want to get rid of your smartphone and get rid of your computers.
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  It's the way things are in the twenty-first century.
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  And that last man that spoke, he's right.
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  If their county doesn't do it, they are going to lose.
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  I just encourage you to learn about data centers and what is happening in other communities before they do it in your community.
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  Do some research on this because they are passing this cost along to you.
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  They are taking your water.
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  They are taking your electricity, and you are the one that is paying for it.
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  In the name of getting bridges and roads, because if you're not a part of this global economy, your community is going to lose.
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  That's the way they sell this to you.
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  But now let's go to Kentucky 4, Congressional District 4.
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  It's a northern part of Kentucky, right there outside of Cincinnati, to the south of Cincinnati.
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  I know that area.
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  I lived in Kentucky for about 10 years and very familiar with Cincinnati as well.
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  I spent um a lot of my life going through Cincinnati, visiting Cincinnati, having uh I'm a big Cincinnati Reds fan, so I went to a lot of Reds games when I lived in Kentucky and growing up in Nashville, Tennessee.
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  My dad would take us to Cincinnati uh frequently.
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  But uh, right up there, that's where Kentucky 4 is.
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  And the fourth congressional district, they deserve a representative who fights for them.
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  Not one who performs for national applause.
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  Congressman Thomas Massey has positioned himself as the principled libertarian, a holdout against big government.
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  In reality, he has become a professional contrarian whose loudest stands benefits his national donor base and personal brand far more than working families, manufacturers, and river communities.
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  He was elected to serve.
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  Voters in Northern Kentucky, Kentucky for should ask a simple question.
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  What has Massey actually delivered?
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  Massey entered Congress via a special election in 2012, and he's really coasted in re-election with minimal opposition for over a decade.
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  His early record showed occasional pragmatism.
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  In 2014, he co-sponsored the Water Resources and Development Act, a bipartisan measure that authorized the Army Corps of Engineers to maintain 276 miles of Ohio River.
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  That infrastructure, it really matters to those people in Kentucky for.
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  He voted in 2018 for the first STEP Act, and that is a criminal justice reform bill that passed the House, but he wasn't alone in passing that.
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  I do.
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  I was a little bit upset about it.
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  I understand why Thomas Massey did it.
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  He didn't think that any vote should ever be taken by proxy or outside of the chambers of uh of Congress.
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  He made some sense there, but at the same time, nothing changed in the legislation by the stunt that he pulled.
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  Nothing changed in that legislation.
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  And it was at the height of COVID 19's most dangerous early stages when we still really didn't know a lot about it, and all he did was obstruct at that moment to slow down the money getting to the people's hands in America through unemployment and PPP and other things in the CARES Act.
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  It slowed down getting that money to the people.
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  It didn't help the people of Kentucky 4 at a time when they needed it.
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  The move earned him immediate bipartisan condemnation from members of the House of Representatives.
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  And he was due that condemnation because of his theatrical purity, not his practical governance and public health guidance.
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  Nothing substantive changed in that legislation, as I said.
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  What did change was Thomas Massey's profile overnight?
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  The previously obscure chubby congressman became a hero to libertarian activist nationwide.
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  His campaign raised more than 200,000 in days, much of it from outside Kentucky.
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  The pattern was set.
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  National notoriety funded by distant donors, local needs were sidelined.
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  By distant donors.
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  Local needs were sidelined.
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  And that trend has only accelerated.
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  And that trend has only accelerated.
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  As Massey's opposition to President Trump and the GOP leadership sharpened, so did his fundraising.
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  As Massey's opposition to President Trump and the GOP leadership sharpened, so did his fundraising.
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  Thomas Massey learned something, didn't he?
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  Thomas Massey learned something, didn't he?
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  Massey enjoyed the limelight, and he began to walk away from those who voted for him, the people of Kentucky for.
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  Massey enjoyed the limelight, and he began to walk away from those who voted for him, the people of Kentucky 4.
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  In 2025, he posted his best quarter.
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  In 2025, he posted his best quarter fundraising for his campaign in 13 years, hauling in over 700,000.
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  By April 2026, he held 1.7 million dollars in cash on hand.
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  And during the heated primaries that I was talking about at the beginning of this hour.
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  Well, he's really done well.
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  He did a money bomb fundraising event here in May, and he raised 1.2 million dollars in a single week.
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  Strikingly, 68% of those donations, they came from first-time contributors.
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  Largely national libertarians, drawn to his image as the uncompromising outsider, not someone representing Kentucky for.
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  Local voters and national donors, they're not the same constituency.
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  One group lives with consequences of his votes.
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  The other enjoys the spectacle from afar, and they move on to the next cause.
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  This funding model reveals the deeper problem here.
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  Thomas Massey no longer primarily represents the people of Northern Kentucky.
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  He represents a small but vocal network of contrarian libertarians scattered across the country who reward performative obstruction.
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  While his district grapples with real issues like manufacturing competitiveness, river infrastructure, opioid recovery, and trade policy.
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  Massey has built a brand around voting no and issuing statements.
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  The grand constitutional stands generate clicks, donations, and super pack war chests that he can retain even if he is defeated May 19th.
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  Constituents get the Instagram Libertarian, not the results-oriented legislator from back in 2014.
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  And you know, the Libertarian Party itself offers a cautionary tell here.
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  After 50 years of organized effort, it commands only about 2% national support.
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  Most Americans, we really harbor libertarian instincts.
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  By that I mean we're skeptical of overreach of government.
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  We respect individual rights, but we also understand that effective governance requires occasional compromise and focus on local priorities.
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  Massey's brand of showy isolationism squanders that potential.
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  It turns principle into parity.
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  Predictive markets currently give Massey roughly a 70% chance of surviving the May 19th primary, with the polls showing about a 5% race there.
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  However, 13% of likely voters are still undecided.
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  So this is still a race.
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  A close contest would send a powerful message here.
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  Northern Kentucky deserves a congressman who treats the district as his primary client.
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  His number one reason for being in the House of Representatives.
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  Not a stage for national performance art.
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  Ed Gorrin, backed by Trump and focused on delivering results over rhetoric, offers that alternative.
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  Voters should look past the carefully cultivated image of the lone defender of the Constitution.
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  Thomas Massey's record shows a man who learned how to monetize contrarianism, while his district waited for consistent, effective representation.
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  On May 19th, Kentucky's fourth can choose substance over spectacle.
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  The people of Northern Kentucky have earned better than a congressman whose biggest victories come in fundraising, emails, and Twitter threads.
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  They deserve a fighter who actually delivers results for them.
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  Not one who forgot them.
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  And vote wisely coming up Tuesday.
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  Realize that nothing that happens there really means anything.
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  The business is done behind doors that we don't see.
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  We never see that part of what happens on Capitol Hill.
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  What happens on Capitol Hill?
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  And one person that wants to go to Capitol Hill, I'm not sure why he wants to join that and have a headache every day, but he does.
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  And one person that wants to go to Capitol Hill, I'm not sure why he wants to join that and have a headache every day, but he does.
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  He's here.
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  He's here.
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  We're gonna have a conversation with him.
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  We're going to have a conversation with him.
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  Maybe we can find that out.
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  Maybe we can find that out.
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  His name is Michael Carbonaro.
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  His name is Michael Carbonaro.
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  His name is Michael Carbonara.
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  His name is Michael Carbonara.
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  And I hope I said that right.
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  And I hope I said that right.
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  I tried how did I do, Michael?
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  I tried how did I do, Michael?
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  It's a bit of a tongue twist.
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  It's a bit of a tongue twist.
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  Yeah, but you got it right there at the end.
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  Yeah, but you got it right there.
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  Yeah, Carbonara is corrected.
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  Yeah, Carbonara is correct.
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  Is that right?
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  Is that right?
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  Yes.
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  Yes.
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  Okay.
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  Okay, well, let's talk about you.
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  Well, let's talk about you.
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  You're a young man, successful man in business.
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  It seems like your life is going great from all appearances.
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  And now suddenly you decide you want to join this mess in our nation's capital.
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  Why is that?
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  What motivates you to get there?
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  You know, uh, I've been an entrepreneur most of my life, and you know, I I love creating businesses, I love solving problems.
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  Um, you know, I've built successful businesses and banking and cryptocurrency, uh, fertility care.
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  And um, you know, I'm at a point in my life where you know, I see what's everything that's going on.
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  We have a lot of divisiveness in this country.
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  And uh, frankly, I think a lot of it is because there are people like Debbie Washman Schultz that are created that divisiveness and tear the country apart.
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  Um, you know, she's been a career politician for over 20 years, and all she does is vote to increase taxes, increase the size of government, and everyone of freedoms away.
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  And um I have I have kids now, um, a three-year-old and a four-month old.
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  And I think everybody, when they come apparent, you start looking at things a little differently.
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  And we all want to have a better world, a better country for our kids to grow up in.
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  So I just felt compelled.
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  This is a time in my life where I'm able to contribute and get do my part to help the country to help the community, and that's what I want to do.
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  I want to restore the freedoms and make America free for the next generation and all Americans.
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  I talk to a lot of politicians, and it seems like they have that idea as they go in, but somewhere along the way, things get you know messed up for them and their ideals and what they want to accomplish.
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  You mentioned Debbie Wasserman Schultz there.
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  That would be who you would run against should you make it through the primary.
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  This is Congressional District 25 down in the Miami between kind of sandwiched between Fort Lauderdale and Miami, isn't it?
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  Yes, that's correct.
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  That's uh it's about half Broward County.
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  Um yeah, she's been there for over 20 years.
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  Um, I I haven't actually met anybody that that likes her there, but she's been there for so long.
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  Yeah, why is that?
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  Why does she continue to get uh elected?
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  Because I don't like her, I don't know it.
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  I'm like you, I don't know anybody that likes Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
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  By the way, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, she was the one that had the EIT specialists that were trying to get out of the country, and they brought them back.
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  And by the way, Nancy Pelosi and Wasserman Schultz, they paid them $800,000.
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  You can look that up and find out about that story.
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  Why is it that the people there in the 25th congressional district in Florida continue to vote for her?
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  You know, that's a good question.
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  Um, you know, people, you know, they they like doing what's what they know, and um, you know, maybe that they just things are changing, and you know, they see the world changing.
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  And uh, I think that what I'm bringing to the table here is a little bit different.
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  Uh I'm not a uh somebody that's been in politics.
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  Debbie Washerman Schultz has never had a job in the private sector, she only knows big government.
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  That's a lot of problems, and I think exactly.
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  And people like that, they can only solve problems by creating more government.
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  I want to go in there, fix things, solve problems by what we know from the private sector, which means efficiency, low cost, and giving things back to the people rather than taking away.
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  Let's go back into your life.
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  You are originally from New York, is that correct?
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  Yes, yes, that's right.
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  And your mom was a single mom, she raised you in church, and then I guess what 2011, 12, you moved to Miami.
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  You are married to uh a Cuban woman, which in Miami, there is a big presence of Cubans there, and by the way, they are huge Americans, they're huge freedom and liberty people.
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  When you meet a Cuban in Miami or you meet a Cuban in America, you you can know that they love freedom and liberty.
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  That's why they are here.
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  Talk about your journey from New York to Florida.
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  Yeah, you're right.
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  I mean, I I came to Florida.
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  I was you know younger.
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  I was uh, you know, still trying to figure out what I was doing with my life, uh starting my businesses, and I I came down here, uh, met my wife, and um actually we're pretty much as soon as I I think the first week I was down here, we started dating.
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  So how long have you been together?
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  Uh 13 years now.
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  Okay, met her on the first day down there, and or first week, and you're been together, and you've been together all these years.
• 26:05
  That's a a great story.
• 26:07
  And now you have two young children, and your motivation for doing this I would assume would be for their future.
• 26:14
  You see what is going on in this country.
• 26:16
  You mentioned how divided we are as a country, and Debbie Wasserman Schultz is one of those that with her rhetoric, she continues to flame those fires to the point that someone like Charlie Kirk takes a bullet last week.
• 26:30
  How do you solve those problems?
• 26:32
  How can we work across the aisle again?
• 26:35
  Because it has been a long time, probably 30 years.
• 26:41
  Yeah, you know, I I've actually thought a lot about this, and without getting you know, this can go be a very long conversation, but I like to think about uh Marx McClun, and if he knows who he is, but you know, he was known as the Godfather of Communications of the 20th century, and he said that what people are reading media, whether it's print radio or TV, it's a constant self-identification feedback loop.
• 27:07
  Now we take that forward to social media, which is just 24-7 propaganda, and you get people who are probably good natured people who want to do good for the country, want to do good for the family, but they're fed this propaganda to the point where they you know left is right, up is down, good is bad, bad is good.
• 27:26
  And we have to really just go back to fundamentals of what freedom of and our you know, freedom of speech of expression, and have critical thinking and return to our values because if we have strong values, it doesn't matter what the propaganda is if our moral compass is the right direction.
• 27:42
  How do we really need to do that?
• 27:43
  How do we do that?
• 27:44
  How how does that how does that accomplish?
• 27:49
  I think we need to take a hard position against the people that are actually violent.
• 27:55
  There are actual bad people, leftist, Marxists that are wreaking this havoc.
• 28:00
  Havoc.
• 28:00
  Sure.
• 28:00
  Sure.
• 28:00
  But there's good people in the middle that are lost in the direction to go.
• 28:00
  But there's good people in the middle that are lost in the direction to go.
• 28:04
  And we have to hold the people accountable.
• 28:04
  And we have to hold the people accountable.
• 28:07
  First, we need to make sure our country is safer.
• 28:07
  First, we need to make sure our country is safer.
• 28:09
  We need to fix the problems.
• 28:09
  We need to fix the problems.
• 28:12
  Uh I'll give you an example.
• 28:12
  I'll give you an example.
• 28:13
  You know, Debbie Washman Schultz, she was a big proponent with open borders, letting criminals, cartels, gangs in the country.
• 28:13
  You know, Debbie Washman Schultz, she was a big proponent with open borders, letting criminals, cartels, gangs in the country.
• 28:21
  And she led the color revolution of the defunded police movement.
• 28:21
  And she led the color revolution of the defunded police movement.
• 28:26
  And what that's doing is bringing all this violence.
• 28:26
  And what that's doing is bringing all this violence.
• 28:29
  You see, all
• 28:29
  You see all the violence with Charlie Kirk, shootings all the time.
• 28:32
  I mean, this wasn't the America 20, 30, 40 years ago where people felt safe.
• 28:37
  And I think we need to restore order because if people can get along, restore order, hold the criminals accountable, we can start having conversation and really communicating with each other.
• 28:48
  We can't communicate to each other.
• 28:50
  Where do we go?
• 28:51
  Well, there's a couple of thoughts I have.
• 28:53
  Number one, you were talking about, in essence, the echo chamber that we live in on social media.
• 28:59
  We are fed the information that we want to believe, and it becomes our truth.
• 29:04
  There is only the truth.
• 29:05
  There's no their truth, my truth, your truth.
• 29:08
  There is the truth.
• 29:09
  The problem is with algorithms and artificial intelligence and social media.
• 29:14
  Our news feeds are uh feeding us what we want to believe.
• 29:19
  And that goes to social media and also in in news feeds.
• 29:23
  So my question is have you given any thought to maybe artificial intelligence and safeguards that uh need to come along with it to help with these echo chambers that we have?
• 29:35
  Sure.
• 29:35
  Um, no, we do need artificial intelligence.
• 29:38
  We need safe AI.
• 29:40
  I think that's going to leapfrog us to have uh a great economy to have quality of life, and it's going to make America a real competitor in the global markets.
• 29:50
  So heading that direction is the right direction, but we do need safe AI.
• 29:54
  We need to understand what the AI is.
• 29:56
  It's a tool, but nobody most people don't really understand that it's just a tool.
• 30:01
  It's not the answer to everything, and you have to be aware of what that algorithm is.
• 30:06
  And I think that needs to be explained to me, the consumers.
• 30:09
  Yeah.
• 30:09
  And I'm concerned about super intelligence and artificial general intelligence, which the experts say is coming in the next five years.
• 30:17
  And yeah, I do agree with you that it is the new cold war that we have, and it is a race, no doubt about it, that we have to get in.
• 30:26
  We can't throw away, you know, the the safeguards, the human agency part of it that is being interrupted.
• 30:33
  But let's go back uh to Charlie Kirk real quick and get your thoughts on Charlie Kirk on the leftist that was indoctrinated to take a bullet and kill him.
• 30:43
  Do you believe we are seeing the full story?
• 30:45
  Is Cash Patel and the government being transparent right now as he says he is?
• 30:51
  You know, I I think it's an active investigation.
• 30:54
  I think a lot of things will come out of the next few days, and these things never happen as instantly as the internet wants it to happen.
• 31:01
  Yeah.
• 31:01
  And I know any investigator doesn't want to jump to conclusions uh before they finish investigations.
• 31:06
  Yeah.
• 31:07
  The Trump administration has been the most transparent government and probably in our lifetime.
• 31:12
  And I trust that they'll get to it and we'll find out everything that happens here.
• 31:16
  And the problem is will the people believe it because of the things that are going on already with conspiracy theories and uh this and that.
• 31:26
  And when that happens, when the real truth comes out, a lot of people don't believe it.
• 31:30
  And we've seen that so many times over the last five to ten years.
• 31:34
  It has become part of our society and our culture, unfortunately.
• 31:39
  Let's talk about uh things financially for you.
• 31:42
  Where do you come down financially in your politics?
• 31:48
  Well, I think there's a lot we can do there.
• 31:50
  Um, I mean, for me, I I believe in the way our country was established that we have the federal government to protect our rights, to protect our borders, to protect our currency.
• 32:00
  And I believe that we should not have a bloated bureaucracy that's overtaxing us.
• 32:04
  I think we need to lower the tax burden on all Americans.
• 32:07
  You know, some people say tax these people more, tax these people less.
• 32:11
  Uh, why tax everybody so much?
• 32:13
  Let people decide how they want to spend their money.
• 32:16
  And I think that you know the economy is the foundation for everything else.
• 32:21
  People aren't financially secure, then they can have a better quality of life, just make better decisions and be aware of all the other issues that they have to attend to.
• 32:29
  But we have problems with uh basically the subsidies that we had in the education system.
• 32:34
  We have now the consequences with our college graduates can't even start their career without student loan debt that they may never even be able to pay off.
• 32:44
  We have health insurance costs that are just outlandish, they're unaffordable.
• 32:48
  Uh credit card debt.
• 32:50
  I mean, we have to fix a systemic problem.
• 32:52
  It's not that we have to just do this or do that.
• 32:55
  We have to find out why are people, you know, they're they're buying power, the curtain power is banishing life, and they're being replaced by debt.
• 33:03
  And we're going to a whole generation that does not have the opportunity for the American dream because all these things have been taken away from their opportunity.
• 33:11
  You mentioned kids getting out of college with a bunch of debt.
• 33:15
  Housing is another problem.
• 33:17
  They can't afford houses between interest rates, which by the way, I like to throw this out.
• 33:22
  Interest rates historically are pretty good right now.
• 33:26
  I can remember 15 years ago that we finally got down to 6%.
• 33:30
  Everybody was refinancing because that was an incredibly low rate.
• 33:35
  Today we're at six and a half, 6.75 on a 30-year fixed mortgage, and people are complaining about it, wanting it good to go back to 3%, which was once in a lifetime thing back five or six years ago.
• 33:47
  So sometimes I think we forget about that.
• 33:49
  That's beside the point.
• 33:50
  We have kids coming out of college, they have a tough time finding a job, they are saddled with a lot of uh student loan debt, and they can't even buy a house.
• 34:01
  Can they even rent an apartment?
• 34:03
  You know, though those opportunities for that generation right now is not available.
• 34:08
  And I think we see a lot of frustration from that age group right now, and we see that maybe in some of this violence that we're seeing.
• 34:16
  How do we fix that?
• 34:19
  Well, like I said, this is a systemic issue about a lot of different variables.
• 34:22
  It's not just one thing, but I can tell you right now, with the technology that America has, there's never been a time to create more wealth than ever in human history.
• 34:33
  But we have a problem when you have so many uh illegals coming here, replacing jobs, which also increases the housing cost.
• 34:41
  We need legal immigration and people vetted before they come here, and we need to have a control on that.
• 34:46
  When the illegals are getting more favoritism than the native people and Americans, it's not right.
• 34:52
  We need to put the Americans first.
• 34:54
  And the other thing, we going back to the AI, this is really important.
• 34:58
  The job market's going to change rapidly over the next five years.
• 35:00
  Rapidly over the next five years.
• 35:02
  Yeah.
• 35:02
  Yeah.
• 35:02
  We need to teach real skills, vocational skills to address this.
• 35:02
  We need to teach real skills, vocational skills to address this.
• 35:06
  AI is going to really help quality of life, but we need to understand what's coming so we can have the training for that and create the job market for that.
• 35:06
  AI is going to really help quality of life, but we need to understand what's coming so we can have the training for that and create the job market for that.
• 35:14
  Yeah, we could lose 10 to 20 percent uh jobs in some places.
• 35:14
  Yeah, we could lose 10 to 20% uh jobs in some places.
• 35:18
  And these aren't just, you know, these are white collar jobs that people don't understand that we're going to lose.
• 35:18
  And these aren't just you know, these are white-collar jobs that people don't understand that we're gonna lose.
• 35:24
  It's a part of artificial intelligence.
• 35:24
  It's a part of artificial intelligence.
• 35:26
  You said it, I think you said it wisely that it's coming.
• 35:26
  You said it, I think you said it wisely, that it's coming, and it's going to be a great thing in most cases.
• 35:34
  But there are some areas we have to uh consider and have some concern about as well.
• 35:40
  I want to get back to um again, the housing thing.
• 35:44
  How do you think we solve this?
• 35:46
  Other than lower interest rates, that would help, but prices are extremely high.
• 35:51
  Are there any programs or there any ways that we can help a 23, 24, 25 year old that is just out of college, got his first job, he's making 50 or 60,000 a year.
• 36:02
  That person has to live with their parents.
• 36:04
  How do we fix that?
• 36:06
  Well, I think there could be some government programs that support first-time home buyers.
• 36:10
  We've had those programs in the past.
• 36:12
  I think we can look at that and make it better for uh young professionals or people get out of college, people starting families.
• 36:19
  It's critically important.
• 36:20
  And that's another problem.
• 36:22
  People aren't having families like they used to.
• 36:24
  And that's part of the issue.
• 36:25
  They can't be independent.
• 36:26
  They need to go have a home.
• 36:27
  They can't be living at their parents' house in order to get married, have kids.
• 36:31
  They need that house.
• 36:32
  And we have to, if we deal with the the student loan debt, the home insurance costs, which are skyrocketing, especially here in Florida.
• 36:40
  We have to look at all these issues because then the housing becomes more affordable if people have more cash to spend they want on that.
• 36:47
  Um, and and the other thing is really just um uh giving people lower taxes, they have the ability to choose the home they want.
• 36:56
  One thing that uh Governor DeSantis is really pushing, which I think is is a great idea here in Florida, they're actually trying to get rid of property taxes for homestead homeowners.
• 37:06
  Yeah.
• 37:06
  Well, one reason why they have to do that in the state of Florida is because the insurance problem.
• 37:11
  Uh so many insurance companies have moved out of the state.
• 37:15
  The state had some loopholes in their laws, and a result of that is that 79% of the country's lawsuits against property insurance is come in the state of Florida, while the state of Florida only has 9% of the property insurance claims.
• 37:30
  So uh I think that maybe getting rid of the property tax in the state of Florida would compensate for the fact that everybody is paying three times, four times as much as the national average on insurance.
• 37:41
  How do you reach across the aisle?
• 37:43
  You mentioned being divided.
• 37:45
  You're gonna need help from Democrats from time to time.
• 37:47
  I think in listening to you, that's the vision that you have.
• 37:51
  You want to take it back to a time when we could be respectful of each other's opinions and have debate and come to some sort of solution for people.
• 38:01
  How do you do that in this political environment?
• 38:05
  Absolutely.
• 38:05
  At the end of the day, we're all Americans.
• 38:07
  We all want best for our families, we all want to protect our kids.
• 38:11
  We need to really root out the the people who are really promoting bad ideas that are ideas, and we can do this peacefully, of course, but have bad ideas and and people like Debbie Washman Schultz, who represents everything the opposite of what I'm saying.
• 38:26
  She wants Medicare for all, which will drain the economy and make Medicare terrible for everyone.
• 38:31
  She wants open borders.
• 38:33
  She wants to defund the police.
• 38:35
  Everything that she voted for or that she promotes is what's deteriorating in America.
• 38:41
  That's what's ripping the fabric of our civilization, our society apart, and create this divisiveness, because everything that America stood for for liberty, for freedom, for self-determination, for promoting business and innovation.
• 38:56
  He's creating a bloat of bureaucracy that damages all those things and takes away our freedoms.
• 39:01
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• 40:26
  We are joined by someone that wants to join the rat race in Washington, D.C.
• 40:32
  tonight, Michael Carbonara.
• 40:34
  He is running in the 25th congressional district in Florida.
• 40:37
  Michael, I haven't asked you yet how busy and how crowded is the Republican field in your primary.
• 40:46
  Well, actually, right now, I was the sole candidate till uh, I guess a couple weeks ago.
• 40:51
  Um, another candidate had jumped in the race.
• 40:54
  And when you are trying to get money, it takes a lot of money to win a race.
• 40:59
  How are you there?
• 41:00
  Are you going to be able to fight Debbie Wasserman Schultz?
• 41:05
  Yeah, I mean, from a resources, um, and I've been running businesses, so I understand how to raise money, how to run an organization, how to manage resources.
• 41:14
  Uh, actually, up until this point when I I first filed uh back in April this year, I I loan myself the initial campaign funding, and I put it all into Bitcoin.
• 41:25
  And I did that to demonstrate the you know what our future economy is looking like and what cryptocurrency means to the world because I know when you know a couple more months, uh that'll actually spearhead me much further with resources from the Bitcoin uh value increase.
• 41:42
  So I did that kind of just to show the American people that this could be done with innovation and being smart about how you're raising funds.
• 41:48
  Let's talk about uh crypto.
• 41:50
  It's something that you have done in your past in business.
• 41:54
  I think a lot of us, myself included, we don't really understand crypto.
• 41:58
  I can tell you that years ago, probably 15 years ago, some guy says you want to buy some Bitcoin.
• 42:00
  Ago, probably 15 years ago, some guy says you want to buy some Bitcoin.
• 42:04
  And I was like, Well, what is it?
• 42:04
  And I was like, Well, what is it?
• 42:06
  He said, You can play a computer game with it.
• 42:06
  He said, You can play a computer game with it.
• 42:09
  I'm I don't play computer games.
• 42:09
  I'm I don't play computer games.
• 42:12
  And he says, Well, you can buy it.
• 42:12
  And he says, Well, you can buy it, it's 50 cents.
• 42:13
  It's 50 cents.
• 42:14
  I don't need it.
• 42:14
  I don't need it, I don't play computer games.
• 42:15
  I don't play computer games.
• 42:16
  I think it's a stupid idea, even at 50 cents.
• 42:16
  I think it's a stupid idea, even at 50 cents.
• 42:20
  So don't ever listen to me for financial advice is the the story of that, Michael.
• 42:20
  So don't ever listen to me for financial advice is the story of that, Michael.
• 42:25
  But uh a little bit about crypto.
• 42:25
  But uh a little bit about crypto.
• 42:27
  Do you think the government needs to get into the crypto?
• 42:27
  Do you think the government needs to get into the crypto business?
• 42:31
  I I know a lot of people are fearful that there would be a central bank digital currency.
• 42:37
  Where do you come in on that?
• 42:40
  Yeah, and that's a really good point.
• 42:42
  And that's something the Trump administration already came out and said no central bank does a currency.
• 42:47
  And I wholeheartedly agree with that.
• 42:49
  We don't want the government overreaching and having too much control of our finances.
• 42:54
  But Bitcoin, and it's really not just about Bitcoin as an asset, but it's about blockchain technology because it makes much more transparency, it reduces risks of fraud, it has more protections.
• 43:10
  And really what it represents is financial freedom where people can actually control and own their own assets.
• 43:16
  It's uh, you know, they've referred to it as decentralized finance.
• 43:19
  Yeah, because you actually control your own money.
• 43:22
  It's it's financial freedom.
• 43:23
  It's it's really, you know, I think it's emblematic of America of having liberties to control your own destiny.
• 43:31
  Michael, what do we do about what we are seeing with Charlie Kirk?
• 43:37
  We see the left and the trans movement that I guess they are after all of us.
• 43:44
  They want to meet I saw Charlie Kirk's death and assassination as symbolism of coming after Christians, coming out of after people that believe in God.
• 43:54
  They're they're coming after us.
• 43:56
  They are coming after us, and that's what Charlie Kirk's assassination was.
• 44:00
  And until we get bold and loud and get in people's faces that are doing this, we're gonna have a problem.
• 44:08
  How do we fix this problem?
• 44:10
  Because to me, it's an ideology.
• 44:12
  We have half this country with an ideology that is not based on the Judeo Christian principles that this country was founded on.
• 44:20
  How do we get it back there?
• 44:22
  Do you have any ideas?
• 44:24
  What are your thoughts there?
• 44:26
  I do.
• 44:26
  And I know I think Charlie Kirk was doing exactly that.
• 44:30
  And unfortunately, he lost his life speaking his mind and promoting Christianity and freedom of speech and American values and freedom.
• 44:39
  I think that we have uh a serious mental illness problem in this country.
• 44:44
  You know, as soon as we saw the shootings last week, Debbie Washman Schultz, her reaction was, let's take away more freedoms.
• 44:50
  Let's take your guns away.
• 44:52
  But the real issue is it's not guns, it's the mental illness.
• 44:56
  And we need to well, first help people that are sick and need that help.
• 45:01
  But when there are criminals, we also need to hold them accountable.
• 45:05
  We have uh cashless bail.
• 45:07
  We have judges and district attorneys letting murderers and and rapists get out of jail the next day.
• 45:13
  And they're just creating and amplifying this problem, and they're by doing that, they're saying it's okay for you to be criminal, it's okay for you to hurt others.
• 45:21
  And it starts right there by holding those who are criminals accountable, holding judges and district attorneys accountable, make sure we get the right people in into those positions, and it all starts with your own family.
• 45:33
  Teach these values and lessons to your children, make sure they're safe, make sure they're educated and not indoctrinated, because the family unit is the it's the foundation for our whole country.
• 45:46
  And we need to start there.
• 45:47
  You know, you sound a lot like me in believing that this country is a republic.
• 45:53
  We should have very limited government from the federal side, that our government should be closest to our community where we live, and that would be in the county, the city, the state that we live in, all of those things.
• 46:06
  When you talk about cashless bail and the other things that you talked about, safety and security, how do you do that if you win and you beat Debbie Wasserman Schultz?
• 46:17
  What type of legislation do you do from a federal standpoint for states and our local government without creating the larger federal government that you and I both are against?
• 46:31
  Well, yeah, that's uh it's a really good point because from a federal position, you can't control the local government.
• 46:37
  But what you can do is is lead with good ideas and talk to people within your community and support local elections and and show that you support those ideas from the federal level, because I I agree the federal government should not be involved in everybody's life, it should be limited.
• 46:54
  And the whole purpose where the founding fathers, why they created this model, where the states and the local governments uh they can have more authority is actually to maximize freedom by creating competition.
• 47:05
  Because if your town or your state was was too uh taxing or didn't have enough freedom, such as California, you could freely move to places like Florida.
• 47:16
  And that's the idea is you by creating competition, you have more freedom.
• 47:20
  And uh that I support that.
• 47:22
  And we saw a lot of that over the last several years.
• 47:25
  A lot of people from New York and New Jersey are moving down to Florida.
• 47:29
  People are moving out of California, they're moving into uh Idaho and Texas, Tennessee, other places like that.
• 47:37
  So your point is taken on that.
• 47:40
  You know, when you look at Florida, I don't know if you know this, but Florida leads the nation every year in the most people leaving a state.
• 47:47
  Did you know that?
• 47:48
  I I brought that up to someone recently, they didn't believe me, but about a half a million people are leaving the state of Florida, but yet Florida does lead in the number of people that have come to the state every year by 150, 170,000 people.
• 48:04
  That's how many people are moving in to the state of Florida every year.
• 48:07
  You would have your hands full should you win and beat Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
• 48:12
  What would you like to do mostly for your constituents in the area there of Miami, right between Fort Lauderdale and uh Miami?
• 48:20
  By the way, that that district used to stretch all the way across to Callier County to Naples, Florida.
• 48:27
  Did you know that?
• 48:28
  Yeah, yeah, they did the uh redistricting just a few years ago.
• 48:32
  Yeah, yeah, they've done a few redistricting in that district before.
• 48:36
  What would you like to see happen for your constituents?
• 48:39
  What could you do for them right off the bat should you win?
• 48:45
  So, you know, we just talked about federal versus local, but even though the federal uh what the decisions that are made in the federal level in DC do have impacts here locally.
• 48:57
  Uh you know, one thing I learned recently uh from the open border situation and Debbie Watson Schultz and the Biden administration, opening the borders to criminals and gang members.
• 49:00
  Uh from the open border situation in Debbie Washington Schultz and the Biden administration, opening the borders to criminals and gang members.
• 49:08
  Right here in Broward County, right now we have 47 confirmed gangs, and there's violence happening every single day here.
• 49:08
  Right here in Broward County, right now we have 47 confirmed gangs, and there's violence happening every single day here.
• 49:15
  And that's a direct result of policy.
• 49:15
  And that's a direct result of policy.
• 49:18
  That wasn't an accident.
• 49:18
  That wasn't an accident.
• 49:19
  That was policy at the federal level.
• 49:19
  That was policy at the federal level.
• 49:22
  So I would do everything I can to bring uh support our law enforcement to hold criminals accountable to make our community.
• 49:22
  So I would do everything I can to bring uh support our law enforcement to hold criminals accountable to make our community safe.
• 49:31
  People shouldn't have to worry about dropping their kids off of school and being coming home safely at the end of the afternoon.
• 49:36
  But we need to address our increasing cost of living.
• 49:40
  Florida is uh, you know, experiencing the same increase of cost than everybody else.
• 49:44
  I mean, we do have sunshine.
• 49:46
  We people do like to come here.
• 49:47
  We do have a nice life here.
• 49:48
  Yeah, but things still cost money, just like the rest of the country, and we need to bring some economic prosperity to the people in this district.
• 49:56
  Great ideas.
• 49:57
  I hope you win, obviously.
• 49:59
  I'm not a Debbie Wasserman Schultz fan at all.
• 50:03
  And let me let me ask you this.
• 50:06
  When you look at the Charlie Kirk death, I want to go back there.
• 50:09
  It's big in the news right now.
• 50:11
  And we see Pam Bondy, she is talking about going after and targeting those for hate speech.
• 50:18
  You know, the First Amendment is something that I think we all should take very seriously.
• 50:22
  I believe hate speech is protected in the First Amendment.
• 50:26
  I think you can cross the line if you threaten violence, but if it's only hate speech, where do you come down on that when you're looking at Pam Bondy and the things that she's saying and which bother me, honestly?
• 50:41
  Um, they do bother me, the things that she has said about that.
• 50:44
  What what do you say about the second?
• 50:45
  What do you say about that first amendment?
• 50:47
  You know, I've said this once before, and I wish I could take credit for it, but uh, I saw a tweet from Kevin Sorebo years ago when he just put it very succinctly the only speech worth protecting is a speech you disagree with.
• 50:59
  Yeah.
• 51:00
  And we have to protect that.
• 51:02
  We need open debate.
• 51:03
  Now, what's we see is going on in this country is a phenomenon.
• 51:08
  Um, but this is not hate speech with people going after.
• 51:12
  These teachers, these people in the military, people that are being basically found out for promoting, I don't want to say hateful, but just disgusting godless propaganda.
• 51:22
  They're also violating the code of conduct for their professions.
• 51:26
  And this is not just about is speech hateful or not.
• 51:30
  This is common sense morality.
• 51:31
  And a community has the right to know or you know, somebody's teaching my kid and they're spilling out this hateful godless rhetoric.
• 51:40
  I don't want that person teaching my kid.
• 51:42
  And so that community has every right to know what's going on and make those decisions.
• 51:46
  Michael, I have been a big proponent of school choice.
• 51:50
  And the words you're talking there kind of bring me into school choice.
• 51:55
  Where do you stand on school choice?
• 51:57
  Is that a good idea?
• 51:58
  I know in the state of Florida that they have it there.
• 52:01
  There are several states now that do have it.
• 52:04
  Is that something that the federal government should do in the Department of Education?
• 52:09
  I think you know, it's been uh something that's been worked out really well in Florida.
• 52:13
  Uh, everybody here, I could say Democrat or Republican really likes to have the school choice.
• 52:18
  It's great to be able to say this school doesn't work for my child.
• 52:21
  I want to bring my kid to this school because I like it better.
• 52:24
  For whatever reason they choose.
• 52:26
  And I think that from a federal level, having universal school choice, I mean, that even though it's a federal law, that gives the power back to the communities, back to the states, back to the parents.
• 52:37
  Right.
• 52:38
  Which really is what the issue is.
• 52:39
  And you can choose who wants your educator children.
• 52:42
  If you're worried about indoctrination, take your kid out of that school, put them somewhere else.
• 52:47
  And uh, I think that's the best way to go forward.
• 52:50
  It creates competition too for public education where they may have to get better.
• 52:55
  And I've always thought that.
• 52:57
  And Sunday, as I was sitting and listening to the sermon that happened to be mostly about Charlie Kirk, thankfully, we have a pastor that is not afraid to stand up and talk about things because that really isn't politics, what happened with Charlie Kirk.
• 53:11
  You know, he was a symbol of uh Christians.
• 53:15
  And so it was much more than politics, and I think we have to see it that way.
• 53:19
  But uh my fault was have we made a mistake in uh taking our children out of public schools, putting them in homeschooling and private schools, and my daughter goes to private school, private Christian school.
• 53:32
  Have we made a mistake by not encouraging young conservatives to become teachers?
• 53:39
  Because as we have seen over the last week with everything that has happened online with social media with Charlie Kirk, there are a lot of vile teachers.
• 53:48
  Our education system from kindergarten all the way through higher education is full of leftists that are indoctrinating our children from a very young age.
• 53:58
  And I'm not so sure that we have made a mistake here.
• 54:02
  Maybe we need to encourage more conservatives, a lot of conservatives to get in there to protect our children in public education, too.
• 54:10
  And that's just a thought I throw at you, but um, I don't know if you have any thoughts.
• 54:15
  I'll allow you to come back at me.
• 54:17
  I do, and that's a really good example of what's going right here in Broward County and in the state of Florida.
• 54:23
  We had hundreds of thousands of students been pulled out and now homeschooled over the last five years.
• 54:29
  Um, and you know, Broward County specifically have been very, very liberal, and people they've lost some of the most students, and we're actually right now being forced to close out schools because there's no uh attendance there anymore.
• 54:41
  Yeah, I've done a story on on that uh in Broward County before.
• 54:45
  I know exactly what you're talking about.
• 54:46
  They these are schools that have been there for 50 and 60 years, and people in the community are upset because the schools are closing.
• 54:53
  Well, they're closing because there's they suck, you know, and they're not doing a good job for the kids.
• 54:58
  I'm sorry, I interrupted you.
• 54:59
  Please go ahead.
• 55:00
  No, no, it's fine.
• 55:01
  And but what I was going to add to that is that um every member but one of the Broward County School Board is is Democrat very, very liberal.
• 55:10
  We only have one conservative on the school board.
• 55:13
  And you're right.
• 55:14
  What's going on is we all Americans, we just have we can do better.
• 55:19
  We need to engage with in our kids' life.
• 55:23
  Um parents are unfortunately, and it all goes back to the economy.
• 55:26
  They're working two, three jobs sometimes.
• 55:29
  They don't have time, they put their kids in daycare way too early.
• 55:32
  And uh people are just trying to get by and they don't want to do those things, but because of the economy, they don't have a choice.
• 55:40
  So well, we start with the economy, we start with safety, everything else can fall in line, but we have to put the pieces together, build a foundation so people are able to make the right choices to take care of their families and be prosperous here.
• 55:54
  I am moving to Broward County tomorrow.
• 55:57
  I will be able to vote for you in the primary.
• 56:00
  Why do I vote for you?
• 56:00
  Why do I vote for you?
• 56:01
  Tell me why I should vote for Michael Carbonara.
• 56:01
  Tell me why I should vote for Michael Carbonara.
• 56:06
  Like I said, Debbie Washerman Schultz, she's been a career politician.
• 56:07
  Like I said, Debbie Washman Schultz, she's been a career politician.
• 56:11
  Her answers to everything is to increase taxes, bigger government, less freedoms for all of us.
• 56:11
  Her answers to everything is to increase taxes, bigger government, less freedoms for all of us.
• 56:17
  I'm running to restore the freedoms in Florida and America and defeat Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the Democratic policies that have eroded the freedoms in America.
• 56:17
  I'm running to restore the freedoms in Florida and America and defeat Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the Democratic policies that have eroded the freedoms in America.
• 56:25
  And I want everybody to be safe, prosperous.
• 56:25
  And I want everybody to be safe, prosperous, and I'm going to use.
• 56:28
  And I'm going to use everything I've learned in building businesses and creativity innovation to bring that to Washington to solve the problems rather than make them bigger.
• 56:39
  Michael, thank you so much for coming on the program.
• 56:42
  That was a fast uh 40 minutes there, wasn't it?
• 56:45
  It was.
• 56:47
  It goes by pretty fast, but thank you so much.
• 56:49
  I wish you so much good luck.
• 56:51
  If there's anything we can do to help you, please reach out.
• 56:54
  I'm here all the time.
• 56:55
  So uh please do that.
• 56:56
  Thank you so much for coming on the program tonight.
• 56:59
  Thank you very much.
• 57:00
  Thanks for having me.
• 57:02
  There is only one truth.
• 57:04
  You've been listening to The Truth Be Told with Booker Scott on America Out Loud.