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#179 - William Chandler - Author · The Chris and Mike Show

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  And we're on the show today with William Chandler, a return
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  guest, a really cool guy whose son has the flu, Flu A, which is
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  not the big fruit with, well, flu B because flu A was last
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  year. It's it's not COVID.
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  It's not in anything, you know, government conspiracy.
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  Well, maybe, but here you go. So, William, remind our guests
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  who you who you are and and why you've decided to grace yourself
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  with us again on our crazy little show.
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  That's what now 35 countries, Mike.
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  We're still stuck at 30 so. 3030 Come on people, come on.
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  Welcome back, William. Thanks for doing this again.
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  We're looking for you. Very much thanks for having me
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  back new adventures. Man, yeah.
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  Yeah, so, I mean, the last time I talked to you guys, I'd read a
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  novel because I was unemployed, right?
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  And this time around I've written a second novel because
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  I'm still basically unemployed. Oh.
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  And wow. I was hoping you'd be like, I
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  got employed from the novel. I thought that's where we were
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  going. I did too.
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  That that would that would be great.
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  But no, basically I guess I'm just going to have to turn this
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  thing into a full time deal. Well, that bummer.
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  Get a right to living. Do something you love.
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  I'm sorry. Exactly.
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  So I'm hoping that I'm hoping that the for a living part
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  actually comes along with comes along with the second book.
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  Yeah, and and you know, it's like kind of a it's a long term
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  game. I mean, most people don't make
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  it overnight. They don't even make it over the
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  first six months to a year. They've written a book now.
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  I've written 2 in 10 mice. I've always heard it's a five
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  year artistic strategy, right? You have to give it at least
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  five years. Hey, let's go with that.
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  And, you know, I'll put out and I'll put out my debut album, you
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  know, 35 years after the band form.
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  So I think when it comes to the book, we're actually like ahead
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  of schedule. If I can, if I can make it with
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  that in five years, that'd be awesome.
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  But that's awesome, man. Yeah, and, and, and it's good
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  just to just to see you guys again and and talk to you, talk
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  to you live because I really enjoyed that first experience
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  and. I really want to read your book,
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  William, but I'll tell you everybody I've shown your
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  artwork to that I know would be into that kind of stuff and just
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  said, wow, that looks really cool.
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  You know, you can just see it in their eyes just from your
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  artwork. So good.
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  Great choice on that with leading people like myself who
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  love that kind of stuff. You know, I'm into the fantasy
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  kind of stuff. So you, you have to lead them
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  into it. Like, I never got so misled.
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  I think we talked about this last time as to when I bought my
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  first Molly Hatchet record. Right, Right.
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  I was expecting to hear like, Black Sabbath and it was
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  Southern rock, which I'd love dearly, but whoa, hey.
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  It wasn't what? Yeah, I always thought that was
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  kind of a misnomer with their album covers and and the actual
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  music and. And I love that artist.
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  I think it's Frank Frazetta who did those, Yes, and but yeah, A.
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  Friend who knew him personally come to find out it's really
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  cool. My buddy Rob.
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  Shout out to Rob. Yeah, but you would think that
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  you were getting like, you know, Man O War or Sabbath or even
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  something like Megadeth. And I mean do I work school?
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  It's outstanding, and the band backed it up.
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  So with your artwork, the last time you were here, you were
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  talking about writing this book, correct?
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  You weren't done with it, if I remember right.
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  So where did pick up Where you left off, I guess, is where
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  Chris was going. For sure, yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah. Sweet.
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  So, you know, and, and I don't know if we had touched on it the
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  first time, but the the entire first book, the idea came from a
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  4 minute song that I'd read. OK, really.
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  Yeah, and I just, you know, that character kind of in the song, I
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  just saw like a bigger story for him.
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  I saw a bigger kind of a bigger existence for him.
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  And eventually, you know, finally put my fingers on the
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  laptop and and knocked out the book.
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  And I think even before I was 3/4 of the way done with it, I
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  realized that this story also had more of a story.
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  So I had started working out an outline and little scenes here
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  and new characters. And before I knew it, the second
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  book was written. And I, I did kind of run into
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  that kind of sophomore jinx the same way that, you know, a band
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  might do. And you know, you have this kind
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  of, you know, it, it, it seemed to be like lightning in a bottle
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  the first time. So the second time was a little
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  bit more labored a little bit more, you know, kind of
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  overthought. And I, I was like, you know, is
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  this even really any good? And so I gave it to some people.
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  And, you know, they may or may not be biased in some instances,
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  but they, I tend to value their opinions because they seem to be
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  objective. And they read it and they're
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  like, we love it. We think this book's great.
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  So that kind of made me, you know, breathe out, relax.
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  And I published the second one. I've already got the outline for
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  the third. Well, and I think as an artist,
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  we can all answer this question independently, but yeah, you
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  know when someone's being honest with you, right?
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  And you know when someone's paying your lip service because
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  they don't want to hurt your feelings.
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  Like you said, obviously this is somebody you have a personal
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  relationship with. So I think it's pretty obvious
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  when someone's just saying, yeah, it's good, you know?
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  Yeah, and, and, and these people that I, I did let read it, they,
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  they don't have any problem usually telling me something
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  that might, you know, sting a little or hurt my feelings and,
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  and. To actually get that.
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  Yeah, to to get that positive feedback was a good jumping
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  point. I still don't think I'm anywhere
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  kind of near as polished as I need to be.
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  You know, I I kind of write a different way.
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  I write in a different method. I don't sit and lock myself away
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  and write. I just kind of write when I can.
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  So see, I that's how, Yeah. No, but that's how I was when I
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  wrote, when I wrote the books. I wrote my main, my not the
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  grand scale. Yeah, but you have to write when
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  the woman strikes you. If you force yourself to write,
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  it's not going to come out the way you want it to come out.
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  And I think that goes. For any artist, for sure.
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  That's the part that people don't understand is you can't
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  just go, OK, go be a writer and write a great book.
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  Go be a great guitar player and become the next Eddie Van Halen,
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  right? Write me the not only, not even
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  that, write me the next hit song.
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  Boy, that's easy, right? Yeah, yeah, that's probably even
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  harder. Even though this this the actual
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  skill set you might not need to be as an accomplished A musician
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  or a vocalist or an instrumentalist.
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  A hit song is just has this weird kind of chemistry to it
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  that that makes it a hit song. And you don't know it's a hit
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  song when you write it like you have no idea.
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  You just write a song because it sounds good to you and your
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  bandmates, you know, So you'll write a story that that you
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  love, that you think this is the this is a great story.
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  This is going to take off. People are going to love this.
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  And then you go one or the other way.
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  It's just there's so much luck involved with the creative
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  process and especially the world of entertainers.
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  The timing has to be right in addition to all of that, right?
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  Yeah. Definitely I, I think for, for
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  me, I kind of, you know, write the books the way that I wrote
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  music, which is, you know, I have to get off on it first.
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  Like, first and foremost, I'm writing it in my bedroom or the
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  rehearsal studio for me. Yeah.
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  Not for anyone else. And if they like it, that's just
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  like the huge, the biggest kind of cherry on top bonus that it
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  could be. And I feel the same way about
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  the book. So when I started writing the
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  first one and, you know, you know, friends and family were
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  making suggestions like, you know, you should do this.
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  I'm like, that's no, I'm not going to do that.
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  That's usually when I get real quiet and I'm like, OK, I can't
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  tell anybody what I'm doing right now because they don't
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  understand, right? Exactly I so.
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  That, that actually cements it for me, me, William, that I'm on
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  the right track, right? I know what I'm doing now
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  because you're trying to poke holes in my boat and.
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  Yeah, to suggest something a different direction.
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  Yes. Yeah, see.
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  Yeah, yeah, that's it. See, when I wrote The Legend of
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  Charles E Ling, I actually Nikki's in it because I wrote it
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  with her kind of intertwined in it.
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  So I had to have her inject her thoughts and ideas because some
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  of the stuff I was thinking wasn't making sense.
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  So it was good for me to have her.
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  Like one of the times we were I wrote it, we were just, we were
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  driving up north for something and I legit had my iPad out and
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  I was, I was typing my note section while she was driving
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  for those two hours. And then I was like, OK, I'm
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  going to do this. And then I would read it to her.
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  So it's kind of fun dynamic of, of her.
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  I talking about my silly idea I had years ago and then kind of,
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  you know, so and she's never read the book.
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  She's like, why would I read the book?
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  I'm in it, You know what I mean? It's like she's she listened to
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  Nemesis every time we rehearse the stuff.
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  But I guarantee if we if we put on ACD, she listened to it once
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  and that would be it because she lived it.
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  So it's, people give her shit that she's never read the book.
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  She's like, but I, I, I was with him the whole time he wrote it
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  basically. And, and it's like, I lived part
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  of that life with him anyway, you know, So it's, it's
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  interesting dichotomy when you, when you do have people that
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  they think they're helping them, they're not.
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  And then you have somebody bouncing ideas and, and sharing
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  your thoughts to make it that much better.
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  So it's it's all how you approach it, you know?
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  But two, two movie scenes just popped in my head from that
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  little 30 seconds, and one was Pee Wee Herman.
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  And Pee Wee's Take Adventure. And he was like, I don't have to
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  see it, Dottie. I lived it right.
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  And the other one goes to to the people with suggestions.
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  It reminds me of the the guy in in Amadeus.
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  Oh yeah. He's watched such a great movie
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  play and he's such a, you know, a just a brilliant prodigy.
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  And the the guy I think was a king or chancellor or someone,
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  he was like, there's, there's too many notes.
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  Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
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  That's one of my favorite lions, William.
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  That's a great movie too. Tom Holst.
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  Tom Holstein. Right.
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  Tom Holstein. Tom Holstein.
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  Hulstein. Holstein.
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  Great. Yeah, great movie.
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  Great actor, man. Great actor, absolutely.
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  The I think what's funny when it comes to me like writing kind of
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  different. It's a, it's a vampire story.
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  It's going to be a trilogy and, and, and it won't, this guy's
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  story won't go past the third book.
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  That's good. Like, I'm not going to, I'm not
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  going to write 10 books about the same guy.
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  Rambo 5. You know what Rambo 7 now like.
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  Yeah, yeah. Rambo's dead man.
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  Exactly. Like there's no way.
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  How do you even get out of bed? How do you know that though,
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  William? Was that just a conscious choice
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  or this is just how you know what's going to happen?
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  Did you mean for that to happen or did it just happen naturally?
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  I, I, I think that when I first got done with the with the first
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  book, I was like, I, I can kind of see it going this much
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  farther. OK.
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  And it just kind of didn't want to stretch it out past its.
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  I didn't want to have kind of a Rambo 7 or a Rocky 7.
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  He's he's fighting at 60 years old and.
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  You. Know like Ric Flair is thinking
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  about coming out for a one more match right at 74.
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  I don't. I don't get it, but I don't.
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  Either I don't either, but. So I just kind of pieced it
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  together, just kind of like bit of connect the dots outline in
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  my head of where this guy starts.
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  And this is where I see his finish.
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  And, and when people ask, you know, why is this book
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  different? Because it's a, it's a vampire
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  book. There have been maybe millions
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  of vampire novels, like, and thousands, hundreds a day get
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  published for me. I, I, they, as you know, like
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  what's in it, what makes it different?
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  I think for me, it's what's not in it and what's not in it is
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  coffins and stakes through the heart and like the, the
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  perception that like every single vampire is like a goth
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  androgynous, you know, bisexual, hedonistic vampire.
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  Like that's awesome. Like, you know, my guy, he he
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  worries about his phone dying and not being able to charge it
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  because that's his only link to what was a regular world.
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  Yeah, is a phone. And he he worries about, you
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  know, where am I going to? Where am I going to live?
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  Where's, where's my next meal going to come from?
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  Like, what's you know, he's he's got real world problems in a
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  very underworld existence. And that for his book, nothing
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  else is him learning about life after he can't really live it
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  anymore. Yeah.
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  And it's him kind of figuring out everything he already missed
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  out on just by a chance encounter with someone who turns
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  him into this thing he just thought was a, a, a movie myth
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  or a book myth. Yeah, Yeah.
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  And and from there, then everything goes different.
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  And then in this second book, and I'll show you the book right
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  here. Nice.
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  All right, I. Love that cover, man.
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  Yeah, yeah. Thank you.
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  Thank you. I worked with a a guy in Italy
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  to make that and oh. No shit.
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  Yeah, this dude named Mirko, his, his, you know, his handle
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  is inside the the publishing page of the book.
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  And we would just bounce ideas. I told him what I wanted.
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  I gave him a rough draft, though.
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  I mean really crappy AI put together rough draft.
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  And I was like, I need you to go from here.
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  And I gave him all the details. He gave me one go at it.
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  I was like, Nah, OK, good. But I need this moved and this
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  changed. And until we got to the point
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  where we're at and I, I loved it.
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  I think it came out great. I probably will reach out to him
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  for the third one if he's still doing it.
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  And I hope he's still doing it by that point because I already
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  know exactly what that book cover is going to look like.
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  Nice. I knew what these ones were
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  going to look like before they before the finished product and.
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  Who did those? Can we get the book?
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  Can we get the books on Amazon or the book?
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  Yes, OK, yes, So right now the paperback version of both are on
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  Amazon and the ebook version of the first book is on Amazon.
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  And then next week or March 2nd, the paperback will go on Barnes
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  and Noble. You can also get both books at a
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  company called Books by Where the author actually gets a
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  little bit more royalty if you buy it through that, but the
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  person purchasing the books has to pay for shipping and
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  handling. Gotcha, so I'm not.
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  So they end up paying more for the book.
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  Oh. And then if they bought it
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  through Amazon, Gotcha. So I'm not going to force anyone
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  to go here and buy this book here just because it gives me a
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  couple more dollars, because really that's all it gives me is
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  a couple more dollars. I was trying to share it but for
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  some reason Riverside is not letting me share my screen.
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  So it's it is on there. You have the House of the of the
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  wing God, the paperbacks 1499. You can order it today.
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  You get it, get it in two days and then the hard cover for the
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  haunting is that you? No, I think that's just a.
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  That's a different. Williams they are.
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  OK, so they they'll say there you are.
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  So House of the Black Moon, that's yours.
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  I'm sorry. I I got the I didn't catch the
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  middle initial there. So the House of the Black Moon.
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  That was the first one, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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  And that's, that's a nice $5 thing on Kindle right there,
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  man. Not, not bad at all.
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  And then and then you have the paperback for 15 bucks.
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  Exactly. And so I kind of did a a little
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  edit job to that first book. And now when you're when you
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  order that one, that is the second edition of the book.
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  Some people who might read the first one and the second one,
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  they might not even see the difference and other people
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  would know exactly where I fix something because they were they
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  were quick to point out, hey, you know, you messed up right
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  here. Like you added a letter in this
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  word or you forgot this word and it's, you know, self-publishing
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  that's that's going to happen. You try to try to mitigate those
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  instances when you can. So I went ahead and corrected
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  that a little bit. There it is.
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  Awesome. Thank you for sharing that and.
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  It's like, yeah, you buy, you go write a book, man, Shut up.
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  Exactly. Well said.
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  Right, but the the second book, it takes this guy's story and if
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  you thought that he was. Am I?
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  Am I sharing the first book, William?
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  No, that's the second book. OK, I just want to make sure I'm
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  sharing the right book. Yeah, yeah, that's the second
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  one. And feel free to share the first
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  one because I've been real honest with people online and on
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  social media. What's the title of the first
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  one? House of the Black Moon.
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  Or if you just type in William, William X Chandler, then you'll
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  pull up his his books exactly. There you go.
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  Now click on the click on the book Mike and see what happens.
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  So I think it'll bring there you go.
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  It brings it more up into the screen like that.
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  Right, and that should be I think that's the Kindle version.
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  Yep. The the the paperback of the 1st
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  edition is unpublished. So if you try to buy that, it
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  should give you the second edition.
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  I don't. I don't know the the weird kind
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  of insurance and outs of that because when I go on to the
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  author page and do the edits and, and have a book published,
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  it'll show me that the first edition of the paperback is
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  unpublished and it shows me the second edition.
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  So I'm hoping that that's what it tells the person trying to
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  buy it then, you know, so we'll see.
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  But if this guy thought his world was small and got bigger
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  as he moved across the American Southwest, in the second book he
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  travels way out of his comfort zone and he hits 2 spots in
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  Europe that take up basically the entire book.
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  Well, and Europe is, is is the home of the vampires, right?
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  That's where they all started. Yeah.
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  And, and, you know, depending on your vampire historian, right,
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  they'll tell you it was in this place or No, it was in this
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  place. And, you know, of course,
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  Dracula is kind of in the Transylvania part of Romania,
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  right. And but of course, I mean, he
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  wasn't, that wasn't even the first vampire novel or a vampire
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  story. And what's funny about the
• 20:07
  character in my books is that, you know, all he has to go on
• 20:10
  is. You know, Dracula and Blade and
• 20:14
  and vampire movies that he didn't even, he didn't realize
• 20:18
  that he probably would have had to pay more attention to until
• 20:22
  he became one. And then after he does become
• 20:24
  one, he realizes it doesn't matter anyway because everything
• 20:28
  he learned in those movies isn't true or real at all.
• 20:31
  Because my mythology of the vampire is completely different,
• 20:35
  and it's almost like dispelling what you think you know about
• 20:39
  something. But that's why it's an
• 20:40
  interesting twist, right? It's not going to go into a
• 20:42
  thinking, you know, it's kind of like they put out Nosferatu last
• 20:47
  year, right? Another remake of it.
• 20:48
  It's like, it's like, okay, really again, like, come on.
• 20:53
  Yeah, come on, man. Like, you know, and it's no
• 20:55
  matter how you spin it, it's the same story.
• 20:58
  You have to. Do something like Abe Lincoln
• 21:00
  Vampire Killer. Right.
• 21:01
  Like Abe Lincoln was a vampire. Like like who would have thought
• 21:05
  that Because I didn't read that in historically books.
• 21:07
  But when the documentary came out, I'm like, holy shit, he
• 21:10
  killed vampires. It's still like, you know, it's
• 21:13
  the greatest thing. I.
• 21:14
  Saw it. I went and I saw it with my own
• 21:16
  eyes. Chris Donald was telling the
• 21:17
  truth. Abe Lincoln killed.
• 21:18
  Vampires. Yeah, that should be in his
• 21:20
  presidential library. Like they're Where's the wall?
• 21:22
  They should have a wall. Dedicated to that.
• 21:25
  Right, because, you know, it's part of our history.
• 21:27
  It's part of the legacy of Lincoln, man, It's like how many
• 21:30
  how many presidents are that badass?
• 21:32
  You know that they can go kill vampires.
• 21:34
  I don't think people realize that.
• 21:35
  So you have to, when you, when you see these documentaries,
• 21:39
  man, you have to really like wrap your head around like #1
• 21:42
  how they got all the cinematography and stuff back
• 21:44
  then is amazing, right? Exactly.
• 21:46
  Like that's really awesome. Cinematography.
• 21:48
  Right, but that goes back to the trend the, the, the, the time
• 21:51
  travel, you know, and, and that actually exists because, you
• 21:54
  know, you see pictures with people with cell phones in the
• 21:57
  1900s. Well, how is that possible?
• 22:01
  How do they film Lincoln killing vampires?
• 22:03
  It's, you know. Have you seen like that famous,
• 22:07
  that famous picture of like a guy?
• 22:09
  It looks like he's holding basically an iPhone.
• 22:11
  I'm so glad you brought that up. Yeah.
• 22:14
  Yes. How do you explain that?
• 22:16
  Yeah. I don't know.
• 22:18
  And nowadays, I mean nowadays. Nowadays you could.
• 22:21
  Do it right, it would be so quick.
• 22:23
  Exactly. That picture has been around for
• 22:25
  what, over a decade? That's.
• 22:27
  The problem? Yeah, that's weird.
• 22:29
  Now, someone should have their old VHS tape of where they taped
• 22:33
  that pay-per-view fight and see if they can find that dude,
• 22:38
  right? And then we would dispel the
• 22:40
  myth, you know, forever. But yeah, it's it's, it's very,
• 22:45
  very odd. I wish I could think of the
• 22:47
  guy's name. Rogan has him on a lot.
• 22:50
  He debunks a lot of this stuff that people believe as fact.
• 22:56
  Right. Damn, I thought.
• 22:58
  If I was on this. Tip of my tongue.
• 23:00
  If I could round up all the Bigfoot videos.
• 23:03
  Oh yeah, just. Throw them all.
• 23:05
  Collectively in the trash. That's the one I want to believe
• 23:08
  in the most. Really.
• 23:10
  And I don't, I just not, not nowadays, that's.
• 23:13
  The one I want to be real the most, I guess.
• 23:15
  I don't know, yeah. It's funny with those because
• 23:18
  it's like they all followed this kind of this one pattern.
• 23:23
  You got the guys just filming trees for no reason whatsoever,
• 23:27
  right? And then in the distance, they
• 23:30
  see something that may or may not be a humongous furry animal.
• 23:33
  Well, like a lot, a lot of people don't know that that
• 23:36
  famous Patterson footage, that guy was a con man.
• 23:38
  He actually went to jail for not returning or not paying for the
• 23:44
  actual camera that he filmed the footage with to begin with.
• 23:47
  And oh wow, you know, he was, he rented the gorilla suit or
• 23:52
  whatever. And that's all been debunked a
• 23:55
  million times. And and you still have just a
• 24:00
  shit load of people that will never think that's not a real
• 24:04
  video. And they give you all the
• 24:07
  reasons why it's a female Bigfoot.
• 24:09
  People are. Adorable.
• 24:14
  I I used to believe in everything.
• 24:17
  I've been down the conspiracy almost every conspiracy room.
• 24:21
  Or just in like every kind of supernatural kind of mythical
• 24:24
  like Loch Ness Monster, Bigfoot, yeah, aliens abducting people
• 24:29
  and. I still think aliens abduct
• 24:30
  people. I still think that's legit.
• 24:33
  I don't think that. I think those people are, I
• 24:36
  think those people are suffering from some kind of.
• 24:39
  Well, remember the IT went down in Arizona years and years ago
• 24:43
  like and, and, and I was there. They were, they were straight up
• 24:46
  like lumberjack, like worker type guys that were not.
• 24:49
  Oh, you're talking about the old one.
• 24:52
  Like fire in the sky. Fire in the sky.
• 24:53
  Yeah, yes. Like that shit that to me that
• 24:58
  you just, you can't make that stuff up.
• 25:00
  I don't think to the level that they could describe in detail
• 25:06
  like, so I think it happens on some level.
• 25:07
  I don't think it's I, I mean, I think there's aliens and shit
• 25:10
  more than we think because, you know, the government hides shit
• 25:13
  from everybody for so long. And now it's kind of, you know,
• 25:15
  everything's coming full circle now.
• 25:16
  But because we're so desensitized, nobody gives you a
• 25:19
  shit. The internet's ruined us all.
• 25:22
  Where? Where you know where are you at
• 25:23
  on the moon landing? Will you?
• 25:26
  Yeah. I I don't have any reason to not
• 25:28
  believe that I. Agree.
• 25:29
  Do you believe that they fake the footage?
• 25:31
  I want to believe that. Like, I think that we went to
• 25:34
  the moon. I don't think any of that
• 25:36
  footage is real. Oh I see, so it could be both.
• 25:40
  Both can be true. Yeah, You know, they hired
• 25:42
  Stanley Kubrick to do a lot of the behind the scenes.
• 25:47
  They kind of, they needed B roll kind of stuff.
• 25:51
  I I'm not sure that the B roll was B roll.
• 25:53
  I think it was all A roll because how do you make it
• 25:56
  through the Van Allen radiation belt?
• 25:57
  They Kodak claims they didn't make any kind of special film or
• 26:02
  you know, NASA always said we had special film and a special
• 26:04
  case and. And you know, like, how do you
• 26:06
  make special film when you have no idea if it's going to survive
• 26:10
  or not? And I'm sure there's people are
• 26:11
  going to be slamming me on this going, no, dude, you're totally
• 26:14
  wrong and here's why. And I don't know all the
• 26:16
  details, but I really believe in my heart of hearts that they
• 26:20
  went there because then there's too many people that were
• 26:23
  involved that would have had to have kept that secret for way
• 26:25
  too long. And people have big mouths,
• 26:28
  right? And they brought stuff back.
• 26:30
  It's, I mean they bought. Some of the stuff that they
• 26:32
  claimed that they brought back was proven to be bullshit.
• 26:35
  Like they gave a moon rock to. You can Google who it was.
• 26:40
  A president gave a moon rock to another president and that that
• 26:44
  president had it tested and it was.
• 26:46
  Dread upon it. Yeah, they got it in like next
• 26:49
  to Chris over there. Death Valley.
• 26:51
  Wow, OK. So yeah, some of that stuff's
• 26:54
  been proven to be bullshit. Yeah, got it.
• 26:57
  I'm glad you said Death Valley because there's and I'm going to
• 27:03
  veer back to the book. There's an actual section,
• 27:07
  there's two chapters where they're in Death Valley.
• 27:10
  Oh, right on. Can't be on and and I can't
• 27:13
  believe I didn't mention this before the the the first time.
• 27:16
  There's one or two chapters where he's actually going
• 27:19
  through Glendale, AZ. Oh, I lived there for quite some
• 27:23
  time. You did.
• 27:24
  That's where we had band practice.
• 27:26
  I would drive an hour, an hour to go to band practice.
• 27:29
  I remember doing the 45 minutes to band practice all across, you
• 27:33
  know, across the Metroplex. But yeah, like this Guy Davis,
• 27:37
  he starts off in Abilene, TX. Now.
• 27:41
  I don't know if Abilene nemesis. Ever played Abilene, TX?
• 27:45
  We don't play Abilene. There's and you and a million
• 27:49
  other bands did not ever play Abilene, but Nope.
• 27:53
  And I know some on their behalf. That place has grown, just like
• 27:57
  a lot of Texas. It's what used to be kind of
• 28:01
  middle of nowhere country has grown into, you know, almost big
• 28:05
  cities now. And so so I'm not going to trash
• 28:08
  them at all because I, you know, I placed my character in that
• 28:12
  city. That's quite.
• 28:14
  But I just kind of followed this map where he would follow this
• 28:18
  band because he's he's not, he's not looking to be a groupie.
• 28:22
  He's looking. So, OK, so, so we're on this
• 28:25
  topic right here. So what's your what's your
• 28:27
  feeling of Garth Brooks being a serial killer and killing women
• 28:31
  every place he goes on tour because there's a conspiracy
• 28:35
  that women disappear? Are you?
• 28:36
  During Garth. Brooks, No, you haven't heard
• 28:39
  this. I've never talked about it.
• 28:41
  Yeah, there's women. There's women that always
• 28:43
  disappear during his wherever he goes It's but they think about
• 28:47
  it. A roadie would be one of the
• 28:49
  greatest serial killer opportunities of all time
• 28:51
  because he's in a different city night after night after night.
• 28:54
  Night after night, yeah, and just.
• 28:55
  Like a truck driver. Right.
• 28:57
  And it's like, yeah, so you, you know, you grab a chick and, you
• 29:00
  know, do your deed and then, you know, I don't know, dispose the
• 29:04
  body somewhere. Then you're off to the next
• 29:05
  city. And roadies are, you know,
• 29:08
  they're, they're you don't, they're invisible.
• 29:10
  You don't see them. Their entire life is invisible.
• 29:13
  Right. No one cares about those guys.
• 29:15
  They don't know those guys. You know, a few Rd. crews have,
• 29:19
  you know, risen to this kind of notoriety like Panteras Rd.
• 29:22
  crew, but. People still don't know.
• 29:24
  You couldn't name 1 member of it.
• 29:25
  You know, they're, they're just at work every day.
• 29:29
  I just want people to know we are not disparaging roadies.
• 29:32
  We're not anyway. We're just saying you're the
• 29:33
  behind. I like, we love behind the scene
• 29:36
  guys. Yeah, I'd love to have a roadie
• 29:37
  come on the show and tell us how things work and how absolutely
• 29:40
  the stuff that's involved with setting a stage.
• 29:42
  All we're saying is you guys get to be invisible in the coolest
• 29:45
  part, in the coolest environment ever, all the time.
• 29:47
  Yeah. Imagine and how.
• 29:49
  Is Roadie just always thought that about?
• 29:51
  I always thought that about the the actual musicians.
• 29:54
  Like, I had an idea for that same kind of story that, you
• 29:57
  know, people claim about Greth Brooks when I was a teenager.
• 30:01
  I was like, what if this Rockstar, you know, just goes
• 30:05
  from town to town killing? And it in that book, one of the
• 30:08
  reasons is a vampire tells my guy, you know, the reason I
• 30:12
  picked you, the reason I pick everyone and no one even cares
• 30:16
  about them a week later is because they're they're
• 30:19
  basically the losers of this world.
• 30:22
  And no one's going to remember them after they're gone.
• 30:24
  And she's like, I'm sorry, you got turned into a vampire.
• 30:28
  The event was supposed to be that I fed on you.
• 30:31
  You were my meal. And then that was the end of
• 30:33
  you. And she's like, my, my bad for,
• 30:38
  you know, for what happened instead.
• 30:39
  And yeah, hijinks and Sue. Kind of like Interview the
• 30:44
  Vampire when when one of them turns that little girl Kirsten
• 30:48
  Dunn's character. What?
• 30:49
  Have you done? What have you done?
• 30:51
  You needed a playmate. Here's a playmate.
• 30:54
  Exactly. Yeah, it's not.
• 30:56
  It's not really apples to apples.
• 30:58
  No, of course not. You know, it's.
• 31:00
  Yeah. And then and then you realize
• 31:01
  that later, like she's stuck at that age for the for the rest of
• 31:05
  eternity until she gets burned up in the fire or the sun.
• 31:08
  Yeah, that would that would be the most just annoying thing.
• 31:13
  You know, you're 468 years old and you have a body of a 12 year
• 31:16
  old. Yeah, that would be.
• 31:18
  Actually, she was younger, I think.
• 31:20
  Yeah, she was younger. She had played with dolls and
• 31:22
  shit, so that would just. Yeah, that would at.
• 31:24
  Least at least make me legal age man.
• 31:26
  You turn me at least I get 18 in a day then turn me well.
• 31:30
  Over 21 preferably. Well, yeah, but you know, I mean
• 31:34
  to be turned it like 7 or 8, which is absolutely.
• 31:36
  No, I'm with you. That would be hell.
• 31:38
  Yeah, Did you guys ever watch True Blood?
• 31:40
  Oh. Yes.
• 31:41
  Loved it. Yes.
• 31:42
  So did you know there's the redhead teenager on that show?
• 31:46
  Yep. She gets turned and then she
• 31:49
  loses her virginity, right? And the very next time that she
• 31:53
  has sex, she loses her virginity, right?
• 31:57
  Right. And the very next time, because
• 31:59
  it grows. Back.
• 32:00
  That would also suck. And so she is so pissed off that
• 32:05
  this is going to happen every single time with a guy that
• 32:10
  she's in love with. Yeah.
• 32:11
  That. I mean, I think it almost makes
• 32:13
  her want to kill herself right then and there.
• 32:16
  Yeah. And kill the guy, yeah.
• 32:18
  You know, which is another horrible part about being a
• 32:21
  woman. It's like, you know, our first
• 32:23
  time is just as good as every other time after that.
• 32:27
  Yeah, and they have to go. Through this horrible one time
• 32:30
  or. It's one kind of maybe horrible
• 32:32
  to my wife have where she's like, you know, I believe in God
• 32:36
  and I love God. She's like, but I don't know if
• 32:38
  he loves women. She's like, because this sucks
• 32:41
  and it sucks to be a woman and I'm like.
• 32:46
  I'm going through this thing. We're, we're, we're Nikki and
• 32:49
  I've been married, well, you know, 30 years.
• 32:51
  And, and so we're, we're going to have our marriage blessed in
• 32:53
  the Catholic Church because he has a Catholic.
• 32:55
  We've been living in sin for 30 years, which I just think is
• 32:57
  funny, right? But I was going somewhere with
• 33:02
  that, that tied to with that. Oh, so, so everything that we go
• 33:05
  these two classes on Tuesday nights and, and when they start
• 33:07
  talking about different things, it's always Eve's fault.
• 33:11
  Always, it's always Eve's fault because had it not been for Eve
• 33:15
  tempting Adam, none of this would happen.
• 33:18
  The original sin wouldn't exist. It's all Eve's faults.
• 33:21
  When it comes down to it, God's a chauvinist and he's like, it's
• 33:25
  the woman's fault. I have to blame somebody.
• 33:27
  So he he made a woman to blame her.
• 33:29
  So your wife's not wrong at all. I totally see that line.
• 33:34
  I agree with. That yeah, yeah.
• 33:38
  I mean, then they kind of get a bad rap throughout the Bible.
• 33:41
  Totally. Yeah, totally.
• 33:43
  You know from. From the very first woman.
• 33:46
  Yeah, all the way down. A lot of blame and.
• 33:49
  And I'm the kind of guy that looks up and says, you know, you
• 33:51
  designed this shit. Right.
• 33:55
  Yeah. So it's that whole thing.
• 33:57
  Well, you know, you're you're this, this, this.
• 33:59
  Well, I'm I'm he's I made in his image.
• 34:02
  You made it like I'd say if there's flaws.
• 34:06
  OK, well, he's flawed because I'm flawed.
• 34:10
  Yeah. It's crazy just throwing it out.
• 34:12
  There, I'm trying to see so many, I'm trying to reach out
• 34:16
  and, and get so much more knowledge and information about
• 34:20
  religion and Christianity than I've ever had in my entire life.
• 34:25
  But I mean, it's, it's hard. I just had this conversation
• 34:29
  with my mother over lunch and not in depth or deeper.
• 34:32
  You know, we, we view a lot of things the same ways and
• 34:36
  obviously we're two different people, so we have different
• 34:38
  views on things. But I, I just, there's certain
• 34:44
  things that don't make sense. And I have to, you know,
• 34:46
  Kirsten, I've talked about it 100 times.
• 34:48
  For me to be happy, I have to just believe what I believe and
• 34:53
  I don't, I don't know what's right and what's wrong.
• 34:56
  So you know, I just want everybody to understand when
• 35:00
  we're talking about this for sure.
• 35:01
  These are our opinions. You know, there's a million ways
• 35:05
  to look at it. Whatever you do to make you
• 35:08
  happy, do that, right? As long as it's not hurting
• 35:11
  anybody else. I always have to throw that out
• 35:13
  there cuz there's crazy fucking people.
• 35:15
  Yeah, I've always tried to, to live by the kind of the
• 35:20
  philosophy that you can do and be anything you want in this
• 35:25
  world or in this country at least.
• 35:28
  Yeah, as long as you're not hurting yourself and you're not
• 35:32
  hurting others. And I personally try to just
• 35:37
  now, especially, especially nowadays, I'm a little bit
• 35:40
  kinder. So I want to be, I want to be a
• 35:44
  reflection of kindness and love and respect for people.
• 35:48
  And I'm not. I've never been religious, but
• 35:52
  it was Christmas Eve. I actually prayed, you know, to
• 35:57
  to what I don't know. Yeah.
• 35:59
  And since that day, I've had this kind of peace and I came up
• 36:05
  with this mantra that I repeat almost daily to myself and
• 36:09
  that's I will not be consumed by the darkness.
• 36:13
  I will be the light that defeats, devours and destroys
• 36:17
  the darkness. Sounds like a vampire.
• 36:21
  Right, right. I like that though.
• 36:23
  That is cool though. That's cool.
• 36:24
  I like it. Thanks.
• 36:25
  My main goal is the same William, is to be kind to
• 36:28
  people. You know, Chris wears that shirt
• 36:30
  a lot. Be kind.
• 36:31
  That is my mantra because I became a horrible person for a
• 36:34
  while and I was super negative and my way or the highway
• 36:38
  bullshit and all that is so ridiculous.
• 36:41
  You know, it's like I believe that somehow we're all
• 36:44
  connected. We're a high of mind.
• 36:45
  We just don't know it. We're just like the bees, but we
• 36:48
  just don't. They understand it.
• 36:49
  They work swimmingly together and we try to push ourselves
• 36:53
  apart all the time, right? We don't understand that we're
• 36:56
  all energy, we're all connected somehow.
• 36:59
  We're humming along at a frequency.
• 37:01
  We're spending a bit, whatever it is, 60, some 1000 miles an
• 37:05
  hour hurtling through space on a spaceship, but you think you're
• 37:09
  standing on a flat surface. You know, it's people don't look
• 37:12
  up anymore. It's like there's space out
• 37:14
  there. There's a whole universe.
• 37:16
  It's like, and we're quibbling over not us, but us as human
• 37:20
  beings are quibbling over who's right and wrong about the
• 37:23
  creator. That nobody even.
• 37:26
  It's just we're like rats in a case sometimes.
• 37:28
  It's just, it's faith, it's blind faith.
• 37:30
  Yeah, that we're. Just that's every religion.
• 37:32
  There's three. So we talked about this last.
• 37:34
  I need some proof of something. I I pulled this clip up.
• 37:37
  William Ricky Gervais talking about he's an atheist, right?
• 37:42
  And he's like, he's like, so there's 3000 gods in all of the
• 37:45
  world. There's 3000 gods.
• 37:46
  If you look at all the different countries different.
• 37:48
  I mean, just at the end of the day, there's 3000 gods.
• 37:51
  So he's like, I just don't believe in one of your gods, so.
• 37:54
  He says I believe in one less than you do.
• 37:57
  I believe in one less than you do.
• 37:58
  That's that makes me an atheist. Yeah, right.
• 38:02
  But that's the thing. I mean, think about it.
• 38:04
  The Native Americans nothing but love, but historically, like all
• 38:09
  the gods, they have the, the wind and fire and rain and, and
• 38:12
  the spirits, their spirits, which is cool, but that's still
• 38:16
  like I, I kind of like that kind of thing, like the whole spirit
• 38:19
  world, like young guns, you know when they took the peyote and
• 38:21
  they're riding the. Horses.
• 38:22
  Why can't they? I want to know what where the.
• 38:24
  Spirit world asshole. They can't see us.
• 38:26
  I've seen that world a million times and I want to know what?
• 38:29
  Not a million, more like 5 or 10, but sure.
• 38:33
  I want to know what that is more than I want to know what
• 38:36
  anything. There's somebody behind you.
• 38:37
  I don't want you. I yeah, it's the the ghost.
• 38:41
  Tom, Jude. No, no, we, we did this one of
• 38:44
  the first time we did this show, somebody walked behind me and
• 38:46
  and this is my job. Yeah, Mike's job is to because
• 38:50
  I'm in. I could have been killed.
• 38:53
  I have my thing face to my Usually you can see my other
• 38:56
  window. So then you can see somebody go.
• 39:00
  So yeah, it's it's Mike's job to like, hey dude, there's somebody
• 39:02
  behind you. So that way I don't get, you
• 39:03
  know, I don't get it. Because, you know, we're so
• 39:05
  popular that, you know, I could be assassinated on the show.
• 39:08
  You know, we're starting to get hate.
• 39:10
  We're starting to get hate keyboard.
• 39:11
  Words you know, you know. Which is cool.
• 39:14
  No, it's fantastic. It's great because that we're
• 39:17
  doing something. So I'm just like, thank you for
• 39:19
  your, thank you for watching and listening.
• 39:21
  Have a wonderful day. Like they'll slam us for
• 39:23
  something like thank you, a wonderful day, which is going to
• 39:27
  drive nuts. And, and I know when I comment
• 39:31
  or post on like one of my community groups, you know, on
• 39:35
  Facebook or whatnot, that that eventually I'm going to, I've
• 39:38
  already had a few kind of like almost smart ass comments on
• 39:43
  something I've said. Kill them with kindness if
• 39:45
  you're going to comment. Yeah, and I'm waiting for the
• 39:47
  the day where someone just really unloads on me and then
• 39:51
  we'll see. We're more on.
• 39:53
  If I if I actually have matured and I and I actually have become
• 39:58
  a better person because I think I have, I have, but you, you
• 40:01
  never know until you're in a challenging situation.
• 40:04
  One thing I do know that's different about me and if you go
• 40:08
  to my website, I don't know if you were able to check out the
• 40:10
  website before this session. It's the D William xavier.com.
• 40:16
  Can you not pull stuff up, Chris?
• 40:18
  I can't, OK. It's not.
• 40:20
  I wrote a blog where I talked about how I spent most of my
• 40:24
  life being selfish. Oh, OK.
• 40:26
  And and how selfishness, you know, in and of itself isn't
• 40:31
  altogether bad, but I definitely carried the most negative
• 40:35
  aspects of it through my life and in my heart for a long time.
• 40:40
  And I realized I was becoming different once I had a yeah,
• 40:47
  right there. If you look at the blog, if you
• 40:50
  click on blog, you'll see that 1A charitable heart.
• 40:53
  Yeah, finally. And.
• 40:56
  Nice dude. Thanks.
• 40:58
  Becoming a husband 1st and then a father definitely took away a
• 41:02
  lot of that selfishness for me. Yeah, but it was when I decided
• 41:06
  to write a book and, and to actually publish it, it was like
• 41:10
  a no brainer for me to say that I'm going to always donate at
• 41:16
  least 10% of my royalties from each and every book to a
• 41:20
  specific charity. Cool.
• 41:22
  So for for House of the Black Moon, it's Blood Cancer United
• 41:27
  that I got involved with through in through work.
• 41:31
  Go back to the home employer not to interrupt you.
• 41:33
  Go back to the home page. I can scroll.
• 41:35
  Keep scrolling down. It's pretty interesting what you
• 41:37
  see there. Keep going.
• 41:41
  Hey, those guys look familiar. Hey, those are two morons.
• 41:43
  There's one moron almost like you 2 morons.
• 41:47
  That's what they that's what they told us on Facebook.
• 41:49
  So, yeah, and if you can click on learn more, you'll see what
• 41:52
  what I what I wrote about you guys and.
• 41:55
  Oh, right on. I think it's.
• 41:56
  Pretty positive. Yeah.
• 41:58
  And so thank you. Yeah.
• 42:00
  With that first book, I'm donating to Blood Cancer United.
• 42:04
  With this second book, cool. 10% of every book sale is going to
• 42:09
  go to Make a Wish Foundation. Oh.
• 42:11
  Right on. And I think the 20 years ago me
• 42:16
  wouldn't have even that would have been a thought in my mind.
• 42:21
  Right. And now it's like not a thought
• 42:24
  in my mind to, to try to give back.
• 42:28
  Yeah. And, and, and right now, like I
• 42:30
  have nothing to give back, like almost $0.00.
• 42:35
  But I'm going to make sure that any money that comes from this,
• 42:40
  this labor of Love Actually gets filtered in, filtered out
• 42:45
  through love as well. So cool.
• 42:48
  Yeah, we'll see. We'll see how it works out with
• 42:51
  this and how much I can actually donate, you know?
• 42:54
  Yeah, that's awesome, dude. Thanks man, and I'm.
• 42:58
  Probably the hardest lesson I learned was when I was a little
• 43:02
  kid, you know, and I would want to be revengeful or, you know,
• 43:07
  my temper would get the better of me.
• 43:09
  And I'm talking like when I'm a teenager, my Grammy told me
• 43:11
  something that took me a long time to put into practice, she
• 43:14
  said. When someone's disrespecting
• 43:16
  you, kill him with kindness. Yeah, they hate that shit and
• 43:19
  then smile. That's.
• 43:20
  Why? That's why I replied the way I
• 43:22
  did to the guys on our on our page, because a year, you know,
• 43:25
  two years ago, I'd be like, fuck you, man.
• 43:26
  I would have started the fight. And I'm like, she's right,
• 43:28
  though. I'm like, where do like you
• 43:30
  defuse? You take all their power away
• 43:32
  because they want to fight with like Chris just said.
• 43:35
  If you start going fuck you and fuck him, fuck that, you know,
• 43:38
  then that's what happens. Then tempers flare, you rage out
• 43:42
  of control and nothing gets solved.
• 43:44
  If we just end it right here with you know, that's your
• 43:47
  opinion and I have mine. I hope you have a wonderful day.
• 43:51
  Right. And what are they going to say?
• 43:53
  Yeah, exactly. With this, you know, online rage
• 43:58
  bait kind of society we live in now, like the Chris going off
• 44:04
  like that is exactly what someone wants.
• 44:07
  And. Like and to to be able to kill
• 44:10
  him with kindness like that is, I think, you know, the ultimate
• 44:14
  fight ender, but also being like the the better man at the same
• 44:21
  time. We talked last time and you
• 44:26
  would, I forgot what it was you said.
• 44:28
  But then you, you, you apologize.
• 44:30
  You're like, I need to let you know, like I don't have a filter
• 44:34
  and you know, and some, you know, some people don't like me
• 44:37
  and blah, blah, blah. And I can't even imagine what
• 44:40
  that would have been. I wanted to circle back to that
• 44:43
  because I used to not have a filter either.
• 44:49
  And my wife still thinks that I could definitely use a much
• 44:54
  stronger muzzle on my mouth, especially around the kids.
• 45:00
  Because we, we, I mean, for the longest time, we were so good
• 45:03
  about what we said in front of them and, and how we acted in
• 45:06
  front of them. And as they've gotten older and
• 45:09
  been, you know, corrupted by their little asshole friends at
• 45:13
  school, they have, you know, they've basically learned to be
• 45:17
  the no filter little versions of me.
• 45:21
  And I have to not join in on that because I, I know what it
• 45:25
  feels like and it feels good to be able to just spew it out.
• 45:28
  Yeah. And I have to try to rein myself
• 45:30
  in as to not further corrupt them.
• 45:34
  But the teenagers nowadays are so much more advanced when it
• 45:39
  comes to what they what they've been exposed to and what they
• 45:43
  know that. We didn't have the Internet.
• 45:47
  We had to go search if we wanted to know things.
• 45:49
  Like we've talked about this on this podcast, like when I first
• 45:52
  moved to Phoenix, if you wanted to know what a porn movie was,
• 45:57
  you had to go to a store and face someone and give them money
• 46:01
  and they gave you a movie, right?
• 46:02
  You had to make that commitment. You got in your car, you drove
• 46:06
  there, you went to a building with no windows and, you know,
• 46:10
  greasy fucking well, unless you're Matt Farrell and then it
• 46:13
  was the hottest chick in the world in a wheelchair.
• 46:15
  But right in my case, it was a greasy fat dude behind the
• 46:18
  counter eating Doritos and drinking Mountain Dew out of a 2
• 46:21
  liter bottle. You know what do you need?
• 46:24
  Look, I just want to buy this movie and go.
• 46:26
  Fucking kill. It would be possible that we
• 46:28
  went to the same exact store. But nowadays I can get on
• 46:33
  curiously for you guys, because that never happened to me.
• 46:35
  Dude, that's never been my jam. I'm sorry you missed out on this
• 46:38
  opportunity because there's it's a very romantic.
• 46:41
  But it's OK after it's all. Said and done well.
• 46:45
  And kids my age, you know when I.
• 46:48
  Took me to the Peep Show. Sorry to interrupt you.
• 46:50
  So I told you they do the Peep Show.
• 46:52
  You told me that? Yeah.
• 46:54
  I was like, don't ever. Take their age fucking place.
• 46:56
  I hope that someone's dad had, you know, a stack of magazines
• 47:01
  or a stack of videos. Yes, right, right, right.
• 47:03
  There was this or this weird kind of like, like almost the
• 47:07
  light shining down when you found something like in an alley
• 47:11
  or in the in the park in the forest.
• 47:14
  They are paced literally down by the river.
• 47:17
  Down by the river. But they actually have all this
• 47:22
  just I mean. At their fingertips now.
• 47:25
  At their fingertips and and by the time they've even made it
• 47:29
  out of elementary school, they know they know everything and.
• 47:34
  You know what the sad part is is they find a lot of it by
• 47:37
  accident because they type in. I'm trying to think of a phrase
• 47:39
  that would lead you to. Porn Skyler when she was When
• 47:42
  Skyler was a kid she typed in something for Britney Spears and
• 47:44
  and boom porn like. Full, full.
• 47:46
  Hardcore, you know, stuff. I'm like what the hell is that
• 47:49
  type thing and she's freaking out.
• 47:50
  It is, but I mean, my wife's a teacher and you'd be shocked if
• 47:54
  I told you to grade level and what they already know it.
• 47:58
  There's there's. I wouldn't because I'm right
• 48:00
  there. Yeah, it's it's, it's
• 48:01
  everywhere. The stuff that that that grade
• 48:04
  level does right is mind is mind boggling stuff that you all
• 48:09
  three of us would never even thought of until we got it.
• 48:12
  Like middle, mid, sophomore, junior in high school.
• 48:15
  If that for sure, yeah. Yeah, it's, it's it's.
• 48:19
  That just trips me out. Oh, big time.
• 48:21
  And the and the thing that sucks about it is if you're not open
• 48:25
  with your children about the birds and the bees, let's call
• 48:28
  it, then that's where they go. Yeah.
• 48:31
  You know, instead of come to their.
• 48:33
  Virgin, right? Instead of open and explaining
• 48:35
  and making sure they understand how to how to like my son when
• 48:43
  he was young, I caught him on YouTube and I reeled him back.
• 48:46
  I'm like hey dude, I thought this was great.
• 48:49
  Is this the type of woman you want to bring home to meet your
• 48:51
  mother? But it, it, it made him
• 48:55
  understand there's, there's, I mean, that's part of life on
• 48:59
  some levels, but the other side of life is respect and, and, and
• 49:03
  the love and the beauty of love and finding that connection.
• 49:08
  You know, our kids struggle because Nick and I have such a
• 49:11
  great relationship. We've been together for so long.
• 49:14
  They were so obvious and transparent with everything with
• 49:18
  them that it's it's hard to find that now.
• 49:21
  Skyler luckily found found her husband.
• 49:23
  They then on an app, which is cool and two years long
• 49:27
  distance. They live, you know, an hour, 45
• 49:29
  minutes apart from each other and they made it work.
• 49:31
  And here they are now with with their their son Trip.
• 49:34
  And then they've taken Michael's taken Anthony as his own and you
• 49:38
  know, it's awesome. But Jake is a guy.
• 49:41
  So he's stuck in that app world where it's just all girls want
• 49:45
  to do is get laid. Right.
• 49:47
  Where did I don't know. What the fuck was that out loud?
• 49:51
  But. You know what I mean?
• 49:52
  It's just you can't you, you just don't have that anymore
• 49:55
  that we had growing up. Like when I first met Nikki, it
• 49:57
  was I, I was, I opened a door to a group home I was going to do
• 50:01
  some stuff for and there she was on the chair.
• 50:03
  You know, it wasn't, it was before the Internet, all kind of
• 50:05
  shit. And then I had to have the balls
• 50:07
  to ask her out. And then she blew me off for two
• 50:08
  months, you know, and so it's that kind of thing.
• 50:12
  You don't have that anymore in the world today.
• 50:14
  Every of these texts and and emails, they won't pick up the
• 50:16
  phone. And it's just, it's sad.
• 50:18
  It's sad for the future of relations.
• 50:20
  You don't have that internal connection anymore.
• 50:24
  You don't have that intimate connection because you just like
• 50:26
  this. We're we're on three different
• 50:28
  places in the world right now. Exactly.
• 50:31
  You know, I mean, this is as transparent as you can get, but
• 50:34
  if we're in a room together, the reactions will be different, the
• 50:36
  conversation will be different, the flow, it will be different.
• 50:39
  You know, laughter would be, you know what I mean?
• 50:41
  So there's good things and bad things would come.
• 50:43
  Technology. That's my soapbox.
• 50:44
  I'm sorry. Squirrel, squirrel, squirrel.
• 50:47
  No, That's why we're here. But no, you hit it on the head.
• 50:49
  There are good things and bad things about technology, and
• 50:53
  sometimes the pluses seem to outweigh the minuses and
• 50:56
  sometimes they don't. Like I can't, I can't go on the
• 50:59
  Internet without thinking that 90% of the videos and photos I
• 51:04
  look at are actually fake. They.
• 51:07
  Are. Yeah, but they're not real.
• 51:08
  Yeah, I know. That sucks.
• 51:09
  That part's starting to suck something.
• 51:11
  Yes, it is. It is, yeah.
• 51:13
  And and yeah. What's what's more sad about
• 51:16
  that is the number of people who actually believe that they're
• 51:21
  real. Right.
• 51:22
  And with it, without doing, you know, just a damn bit of common
• 51:27
  sense and research, right? And reading and just.
• 51:31
  Read underneath the picture. Read because it tells you.
• 51:34
  The three of us affectionately forward thinkers, right?
• 51:38
  So I put people in categories of human beings.
• 51:41
  We would be in a category of human being that I would call a
• 51:44
  forward thinker. We're a dying breed.
• 51:47
  Yeah. Oh yeah.
• 51:47
  People are easily LED man. Just if you believe that James
• 51:54
  Hetfield had a conversation with Donald, that's one I read
• 51:56
  recently that James Hetfield recently had a conversation with
• 51:59
  Donald Trump. Maybe he did.
• 52:01
  But then what it said underneath, it was like, no,
• 52:04
  that conversation, never. Happened.
• 52:06
  That's the thing that they do. They post something and then you
• 52:08
  think, but then you go to the very bottom line and in and in
• 52:11
  this scenario, it would be great if this actually happened, but
• 52:14
  people don't go all the way down and read it.
• 52:16
  They just see the picture and boom, we had a guy who slam us
• 52:19
  on one of our things that that had filled one of the songs.
• 52:21
  Fade the Black's not about suicide.
• 52:23
  We sat here and watched the clip on YouTube.
• 52:26
  I heard the story 100 times from the man himself saying all our
• 52:30
  equipment got stolen right before either their first major
• 52:34
  gig on Megaforce Records or it was a travesty.
• 52:38
  And he said all I wanted to do was slit my wrist or throat or
• 52:41
  whatever. Yeah, it's totally about because
• 52:44
  he reached the pinnacle of where he wanted to be and they went to
• 52:48
  the the van or the trailer and all their shit was gone and
• 52:51
  they're like, aw, man. Can you imagine if that was
• 52:56
  actually the pinnacle of Metallica?
• 52:59
  And at that moment, 1980 it was. 1984 right before Ride the
• 53:04
  Lightning. Yep, he he probably thought
• 53:07
  there's no way we'll ever get bigger than this.
• 53:09
  Of course. How we get to release a second
• 53:11
  album? I've heard him say on a year and
• 53:14
  a half and everybody that's watched it, he said we're five
• 53:17
  or four of the luckiest guys that ever lived.
• 53:19
  We just never gave up. This could be you too, right?
• 53:22
  Yeah. There's nothing special about
• 53:24
  us. We're individually, we're not
• 53:26
  that great of musicians. I've heard him say that.
• 53:28
  But collectively, when you put us in a room, something magical
• 53:31
  happens. And I believe him to some
• 53:34
  extent, but he is like. You got to be.
• 53:38
  Humble man is the best. Rhythm guitar player for that
• 53:42
  kind of music, him and Dave. I'll give Dave credit too,
• 53:46
  because Dave invented those spider cords that we all still
• 53:49
  use today, right? Here's how to move quickly from
• 53:52
  one chord to the next. You know, you just bump your
• 53:54
  finger up one. Nobody would have thought of
• 53:57
  that till he did. So I give them both credit.
• 54:00
  I think those guys are 1A and 1B for sure.
• 54:03
  And, and, and James kind of focused more on the vocals and
• 54:10
  Dave focused more on the just the intricate and complex riffs.
• 54:16
  Because, and I'm going to agree with you there, and I'm also
• 54:18
  going to say that Metallica focused more on having a little
• 54:21
  bit of a swing to their music where it wasn't just.
• 54:23
  Yeah, because Lars is not a good enough drummer to do what Nick
• 54:27
  Menza did, right. Nick Menza was a human
• 54:29
  metronome. Lars plays by the seat of his
• 54:32
  pants. And love him or hate him,
• 54:34
  Metallica would not be that band, and they would have never
• 54:37
  done what they did if anybody else sat behind that drum kit.
• 54:41
  Exactly. It's just the chemistry that
• 54:43
  those four guys have together and, you know, they've been
• 54:46
  lucky to have it with the guys that came after Cliff Burton and
• 54:51
  just, I mean, I you, you don't have metal as it exists without,
• 54:57
  you know, Sabbath, Metallica, and I'd say Pantera.
• 55:01
  No. And I'd use myself and you and
• 55:03
  Chris as an educated party because we were those people.
• 55:06
  We played with people that meant that much to us.
• 55:09
  And we understand that chemistry without him fronting our band,
• 55:13
  without Scott playing the Drones, without, you know, he
• 55:17
  wants to be called William now. I always want to call him Rick.
• 55:21
  Without William playing. Those four guys made that band
• 55:24
  right. We were in the same boat.
• 55:26
  I'm an average to good guitar player at best.
• 55:30
  I'm not breaking any new ground. I just want to be a good
• 55:34
  songwriter. That was always my goal, right?
• 55:36
  I don't really care about playing other people's music.
• 55:38
  That's not my stick. Me either.
• 55:41
  I love writing my own stuff, I love having my own style.
• 55:44
  And you know, Chris gives me the compliment.
• 55:47
  I would never said this out loud, but basically when we
• 55:50
  started that band, the whole sound of that part of the valley
• 55:54
  started to change. It just did.
• 55:57
  When I got there in 1993, the Gin Blossoms were the biggest
• 56:00
  thing going. They had just played on David
• 56:02
  Letterman. I love that band.
• 56:03
  They wrote a lot of great songs. And unfortunately their guitar
• 56:08
  player Slash Songwriter was a horrible drug addict of or
• 56:12
  alcoholic or something, I think both maybe.
• 56:15
  And they had to let him go and after that they couldn't write
• 56:18
  another song. He was the vehicle that made
• 56:20
  that. That's why the Gin Blossoms
• 56:22
  just. Heat it out right away.
• 56:26
  I wish I remember they had that guy's name.
• 56:28
  I remember they had a song on the that 1993 Kiss tribute album
• 56:34
  Think they did Christine 16. You're right on that album.
• 56:38
  Good memory, Damn. Thanks and but don't come right
• 56:42
  I'm I feel exactly the same way you do when it comes to my own
• 56:46
  guitar and and songwriting. I never really felt the need or
• 56:50
  the even the desire to learn other people's songs.
• 56:53
  And I don't begrudge anybody for doing that.
• 56:55
  I've always feel the need to explain myself.
• 56:57
  But like we had Don on and he said, hey, play us some
• 57:00
  whatever. And you know, Chris will defend
• 57:02
  me all the time. He's like, he's not that kind of
• 57:04
  guitar player, you know, Right. It was important for me to have
• 57:08
  my own voice, and as a young, inexperienced, very nervous, not
• 57:14
  very confident guitar player, I didn't want to be influenced by
• 57:18
  other people either, right? I felt like if I'd learned all
• 57:20
  these songs that I would sound like George Lynch or sound like
• 57:24
  Eddie Van Halen or, you know, that's how little confidence I
• 57:27
  had in my own songwriting ability at the time.
• 57:30
  Right. And I What's funny though is you
• 57:35
  know, some now, you know, 30 something years since I first
• 57:39
  started playing guitar, when I actually have learned either a
• 57:43
  bit of a song or a solo or something like that.
• 57:47
  Those just the learning of those songs.
• 57:50
  So those sections kind of help add little, you know, now new
• 57:56
  little tools. I'm glad, Guitar Toolbox.
• 57:58
  I was thinking about it backwards back then, right?
• 58:01
  All it would have done was add to my ability to steal from, you
• 58:07
  know, like you said, little tidbits.
• 58:08
  Oh, I didn't know if I did a trill right there, it would end
• 58:11
  out the measure. And, you know, I don't just have
• 58:14
  to hold one note. I can go like one and two and
• 58:16
  three, or, you know, three and four and one or you know.
• 58:20
  I think learning how to play on your own and with your own songs
• 58:25
  helps you kind of get to your own sound years before another
• 58:31
  guitarist might get to that sound because they are playing,
• 58:36
  you know, what's popular, what the standards are, what the what
• 58:39
  they're expected to learn how to play.
• 58:41
  Yeah, see, now you made my argument in reverse.
• 58:44
  Now, now, we did it the right way, right?
• 58:46
  And and I agree. With your statement I do.
• 58:48
  Yeah, yeah. But just like the technology
• 58:51
  statement, there's there's good sides to it and there's bad
• 58:53
  sides to it. Right when I want to say that
• 58:55
  there's a bad side, Chris just said something that warmed my
• 58:59
  heart the other day. He's like, I'm so glad that I
• 59:01
  get to hang out with you a couple times a week again.
• 59:03
  I couldn't agree with him more, man.
• 59:04
  It's like, yeah, it's it's changed my life for the better,
• 59:08
  right? It's somebody that meant
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  something to me on a level that nobody else will because we
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  shared a stage together, We wrote songs together, right?
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  Super intimate, super humble, super vulnerable, All the words
• 59:21
  that were right to make a perfect friendship and
• 59:24
  partnership, right? Yeah.
• 59:26
  You can't recreate those things. So to have done this now, I
• 59:29
  think you're one 79179 times. Yeah.
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  That's sweet. I've learned so much.
• 59:36
  He's learned so much. We've gotten to meet great
• 59:40
  English there, Mike. We've gotten to me.
• 59:42
  We, we've had the pleasure of meeting people like yourself,
• 59:46
  producers like he's done just such an amazing job at bringing
• 59:50
  people on here that I would have never thought I would have
• 59:53
  gotten to talk to. Right.
• 59:55
  So do you kind of see exactly like the skill set or the
• 1:00:01
  comfortability now? On like 179 shows in as opposed
• 1:00:06
  to like the first couple. Has it changed at all or?
• 1:00:09
  With me for sure go back and listen to the first couple as
• 1:00:12
  he's trying to get me to actually talk and be a normal
• 1:00:16
  human being right, right. He did this on the radio.
• 1:00:18
  This was nothing to him, right? And I?
• 1:00:21
  Knew. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:22
  And again, because who I am extraordinaire it was.
• 1:00:25
  Even if he had never been on the radio, I know it would be easy
• 1:00:27
  because he fronted a heavy. He fronted a rock'n'roll band
• 1:00:31
  for. Long, right?
• 1:00:33
  Yeah. Do you?
• 1:00:37
  I, I think I wrote something in the blog that, you know, I
• 1:00:41
  wasn't an extrovert. I wasn't, I was an introvert.
• 1:00:45
  I know who decided to become the singer and songwriter and
• 1:00:48
  frontman of a band. Yeah.
• 1:00:50
  And, you know, I wasn't a businessman.
• 1:00:53
  So I decided to go get my MBA to, to learn those business
• 1:00:58
  skills as well as the artistic skills.
• 1:01:01
  And, you know, I'd, I've, I've constantly done things behind
• 1:01:05
  everybody when it comes to technology and, and, and what's
• 1:01:08
  available. And I've constantly, even when
• 1:01:11
  I've tried to not do things the hard way, it's like, what am I
• 1:01:16
  good at? I'm good at playing guitar and
• 1:01:18
  writing songs. Hey, you know, what's almost the
• 1:01:20
  hardest thing to do in the whole world to make a living is play
• 1:01:24
  guitar and writing songs. After doing business for so
• 1:01:28
  long, I was like, you know what? I'm going to write books.
• 1:01:31
  Well, guess what? What's top five?
• 1:01:34
  Just almost as hard as as music to try and make a.
• 1:01:37
  Living that was that. That was my trajectory, man.
• 1:01:39
  I went to college to be a writer.
• 1:01:40
  I got AII, won some awards and got an internship at the Mesa
• 1:01:43
  trip for someone realized, well shit, I don't make any money
• 1:01:45
  doing this. So what did I do?
• 1:01:47
  I just transferred my my major from journalism to theater
• 1:01:53
  because because. That's where the money's.
• 1:01:56
  Right. So and then that and then that
• 1:01:58
  kind of, you know, ended up molding into the music because
• 1:02:00
  the music I could do all I could do, I could put on the face of
• 1:02:03
  the character of the song I wrote.
• 1:02:05
  I could act, I could sing, I could portray, I could have all
• 1:02:09
  those things that filled that career side of my head.
• 1:02:12
  But then again, it's, it's, you know, it's like being an NFL
• 1:02:16
  quarterback. It's .0001% chance you're going
• 1:02:19
  to get drafted to begin with. Let.
• 1:02:21
  Alone become a quarterback for one of only 32 football teams in
• 1:02:25
  the world on that stage. So it's, you know.
• 1:02:28
  Right. So to parrot my comment, which
• 1:02:31
  was similar to yours, when I got on Instagram, somebody bashed us
• 1:02:34
  for dissing on Kid Rock. And I was like, I didn't know we
• 1:02:37
  were in competition. You know, he told us that we
• 1:02:39
  were jealous that he was something and we were nothing.
• 1:02:43
  And I was like, I didn't know I was in competition with him.
• 1:02:46
  But you know, I hope you have a nice day or thank you for
• 1:02:49
  listening. That's what I said.
• 1:02:50
  And I'm yeah, I, I comment on that one too, because they, they
• 1:02:52
  said we were being hypocrites. I'm like, we're not being
• 1:02:54
  hypocrites. We're having a conversation like
• 1:02:56
  right, Nothing hypocritical about it.
• 1:02:58
  We're not. It was purely conversation.
• 1:03:01
  How? Do you feel about that the first
• 1:03:02
  time being a musician? This is a great question for
• 1:03:05
  William Real quick. OK, How do you feel about him
• 1:03:08
  having his own halftime show for the first time ever in the
• 1:03:12
  history of the Super Bowl? We're going to use music as a
• 1:03:15
  weapon and split, try to divide the country down the middle.
• 1:03:19
  That pissed me off. I thought that was bullshit.
• 1:03:22
  Thank you. OK.
• 1:03:23
  And I, I think the, it's funny that we're talking about Kid
• 1:03:30
  Rock right now, like in 2026, but I remember being in 8th
• 1:03:35
  grade and having a friend of mine bring me his like second
• 1:03:41
  cassette tape ever. And he's like, oh, you'll love
• 1:03:43
  this. You'll love this is so good.
• 1:03:45
  And there's a song on it. He talks about going down on
• 1:03:47
  girls. You'll love it.
• 1:03:49
  And I was like, I put the tape in and I was like, this is, I
• 1:03:53
  mean, this is garbage. Like just was horrible.
• 1:03:59
  And then he put out another album that was supposed to be
• 1:04:01
  better and I've never heard about him.
• 1:04:03
  And then Devil Without a Cause came out and I was like, is this
• 1:04:08
  the same guy? I was like, it's the same name.
• 1:04:12
  I was like, there's no way that these guys can be the same guy.
• 1:04:15
  And sure enough, it was. And I didn't like that album.
• 1:04:19
  I didn't like his music. But eventually I was like, you
• 1:04:22
  know what? And this is the same way I feel
• 1:04:24
  about any musician who's ever made it at any kind of level.
• 1:04:29
  At some point, my jealousy or my whatever I think about their
• 1:04:32
  music, right? It just has to go by the
• 1:04:34
  wayside. And I have to respect the fact
• 1:04:37
  that they kept at it and kept at it and kept at it until they
• 1:04:42
  finally got to this point that every musician wants to be at
• 1:04:46
  every singer, every rapper, every guy with a acoustic guitar
• 1:04:50
  playing a barbecue joint on the side of the road like.
• 1:04:54
  Well, here's what cracked me up real quick.
• 1:04:56
  Yeah. Everybody was all I kept hearing
• 1:04:59
  is, you know, why is he going to sing in Spanish?
• 1:05:02
  Why, why can't it be in English, English, English, English?
• 1:05:04
  And I watched the Kid Rock performance because I need to
• 1:05:07
  know what I'm dealing with, right?
• 1:05:09
  So when they opened up with BA, with the BA, I'm like, you're
• 1:05:14
  bitching about somebody not speaking English and you're
• 1:05:17
  watching a performance and they literally started with a song
• 1:05:20
  that means that it's not even a fucking word.
• 1:05:23
  Exactly. It's BA with the BA, it's a,
• 1:05:26
  it's a beat, right? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:05:29
  It came from a rap song like at 7879.
• 1:05:33
  I put my hand on my face and I just started laughing.
• 1:05:36
  I'm like, this is where we're at.
• 1:05:38
  This is how people think, right? OK, I give up.
• 1:05:40
  You know you. Can't have a world.
• 1:05:42
  But yeah, you can't have a world anymore without controversy.
• 1:05:44
  Nothing can exist without controversy.
• 1:05:46
  You have to pit sides against each other.
• 1:05:47
  Look at the media. The media doesn't show anything
• 1:05:50
  positive anymore. They they pick and choose.
• 1:05:53
  They're picking and choosing. Their, their ice, ice, ice, ice,
• 1:05:55
  ice. But Trump's, Trump's and I'm not
• 1:05:59
  getting political. Trump's approach to, to illegal
• 1:06:02
  immigrants is, is, is harsh, but every president has done it.
• 1:06:07
  Every single president before him has done it.
• 1:06:09
  Every single one has deported illegal immigrants without
• 1:06:13
  exception, right? Trump, Trump just does it in a
• 1:06:16
  way that pisses everybody off. And I'm not political.
• 1:06:19
  I'm not defending anybody. Obama deported Mike and I had a
• 1:06:22
  show about this he probably 50-60 episodes ago.
• 1:06:25
  We we broke down the level of deportations per President Obama
• 1:06:29
  crushed them all, right? All of.
• 1:06:31
  Them. Yeah, You.
• 1:06:31
  You. Can't without exception, without
• 1:06:34
  exception. So, so you watch the news and I
• 1:06:37
  don't watch the news because all the news is, is click bait.
• 1:06:41
  It's just here's a little snippet of this chaos and they
• 1:06:45
  want people to react and and thread comments and views and
• 1:06:48
  instead of here's the entire story, Here's the pros, here's
• 1:06:53
  the cons, here's the summary, here's the resolution.
• 1:06:56
  They're like garbage, garbage, garbage, garbage because they
• 1:06:58
  want people feeding them, you know, garbage in, garbage out.
• 1:07:02
  There's no, there's no rational conversations anymore on those
• 1:07:05
  threads because it's like we talked earlier.
• 1:07:09
  James had felt having a conversation with President
• 1:07:12
  Trump. But you go to the very last
• 1:07:13
  line. It's like, this would be great
• 1:07:15
  if it happened, but it didn't. But all they see is the first
• 1:07:18
  paragraph. But then there's 800 comments of
• 1:07:20
  people arguing about this thing that never really happened, and
• 1:07:26
  that's what they believable. And they had to click on that,
• 1:07:29
  which, which gave the the visibility and in a lot of
• 1:07:33
  cases, you know, monetization of that post and, and that and
• 1:07:38
  that, you know, user who's probably not even a real human.
• 1:07:42
  I know I've seen, you know, the same kind of story like posted,
• 1:07:47
  I don't know how many times. And the actual words that are
• 1:07:51
  being said, the actual conversation is exactly the
• 1:07:53
  same, but it's with different people.
• 1:07:56
  Yep. Right.
• 1:07:56
  So it might be Troy Aikman with the girls on the View where it
• 1:08:02
  might be, you know, Donald Trump with this and that.
• 1:08:05
  And it's just I, I, I just don't understand why someone has
• 1:08:10
  interest and not not reading about that, but like creating
• 1:08:15
  that. It's like to create such shit
• 1:08:19
  and put it out like times, I don't know, 100 million people.
• 1:08:24
  Yep. I'm more concerned about much
• 1:08:27
  better off. I'm more concerned about the
• 1:08:29
  people that are easily led by that, though, you know, at least
• 1:08:32
  the person that's putting it out there.
• 1:08:34
  He's ambitious and you know, that requires effort and work.
• 1:08:37
  It's a lot of work, you know, ask Chris, right?
• 1:08:39
  Like to keep all this stuff moving requires both of us
• 1:08:44
  splitting everything right down the middle.
• 1:08:46
  And then there's weeks where we barely make it, you know,
• 1:08:48
  because we both have full time jobs on top of it.
• 1:08:50
  So I agree with you, but I always give a little bit of
• 1:08:55
  credence to the person that has effort, right?
• 1:08:57
  Even if it's evil, I'm always trying to look at the good side
• 1:09:02
  and I'm like, if he would just use that for this, he would be
• 1:09:05
  so great, you know? And that's my point is if they
• 1:09:08
  were able to take that creativity and that that
• 1:09:11
  hustler's spirit. But the fact is, 800 people
• 1:09:14
  arguing underneath about something that doesn't even
• 1:09:17
  exist, they worry me so much. Yeah.
• 1:09:20
  And and that's the problem with this kind of social media age,
• 1:09:24
  is that it it gives it, it gives people who deserve a voice of
• 1:09:28
  voice, but it also gives people who should keep their fucking
• 1:09:32
  mouth shut a voice. Yeah, that's what people hear
• 1:09:35
  from me a lot when they say something that I know is utterly
• 1:09:37
  ridiculous. I'm like, get the fuck out of
• 1:09:39
  here, you know? Right.
• 1:09:41
  And unfortunately believe that gives those people the loudest
• 1:09:44
  voice. Those are the ones that speak
• 1:09:46
  the loudest. True.
• 1:09:48
  Yeah. Alright boys.
• 1:09:49
  Alright boys and girls, we got to wrap this up to find William
• 1:09:52
  Chandler the William xavierchandler.com.
• 1:09:56
  It's the William xavier.com. OK, the William xavier.com,
• 1:10:00
  because when you pull it up, your last name's on there too.
• 1:10:02
  So the William xavier.com has all the stuff, has the links.
• 1:10:05
  It's got his blog, Instagram page.
• 1:10:07
  I think it probably it takes you to the ability to buy the books.
• 1:10:10
  I said that fast three times, right?
• 1:10:12
  It does. So all in one.
• 1:10:14
  I followed you by Chris and Mike.
• 1:10:17
  So subscribe to your newsletter. I expect awesome things from
• 1:10:20
  you, Wilma William. Thank you, thank you.
• 1:10:24
  Hey, just being able to sit here with you guys.
• 1:10:26
  You know, this is this is one of those things that you do and you
• 1:10:30
  build relationships and you know, I, I can't wait till I'm
• 1:10:34
  going to your state, Chris and having a book sign in and, and
• 1:10:38
  stepping off and I'll stop off. And see you.
• 1:10:41
  I'll come and I'll have you on the shelf.
• 1:10:43
  It's a Tuesday. Or a Friday.
• 1:10:44
  Absolutely. Exactly.
• 1:10:45
  It'll be awesome. So yeah.
• 1:10:46
  Him and I have talked about that to have like, I look forward to
• 1:10:50
  this all day, man. You.
• 1:10:52
  I kept telling people, yeah, I always know that with you on the
• 1:10:57
  show, we're the least smart people in the group, right?
• 1:11:02
  And I mean that affectionately. I do.
• 1:11:04
  I just. I look forward to it because
• 1:11:06
  you're well spoken. You have great ideas.
• 1:11:08
  The questions that I asked of you, I was, you know, pleasantly
• 1:11:13
  surprised by your answers, shocked in a couple.
• 1:11:15
  You know, I thought maybe you'd go the other way.
• 1:11:17
  So I really look forward to this, and I'm glad you came
• 1:11:19
  back. So I wish you success with your
• 1:11:21
  book. And I'll be buying both of them
• 1:11:23
  because they're both right up my alley.
• 1:11:25
  So, and then, and then, so when, when, when the next one's
• 1:11:27
  getting ready to come out, you're obviously coming back on.
• 1:11:29
  So I can talk about that one. Definitely.
• 1:11:32
  Yeah. Yeah, if you'll have me.
• 1:11:34
  Absolutely. I'm straight.
• 1:11:36
  So remember, boys and girls, if you're feeling sorrow, sad,
• 1:11:38
  depressed, suicidal, don't do it.
• 1:11:40
  Tomorrow's a better day with you waking up in it.
• 1:11:42
  Don't leave a hole in somebody else's heart because you choose
• 1:11:44
  not to. You know, go through your
• 1:11:46
  struggles. Go run, go scream, go journal,
• 1:11:49
  go work out. Go find somebody to talk to you.
• 1:11:50
  If you can't text 988. Somebody's there standing by to
• 1:11:53
  help talk you off that ledge and get you back in the right state
• 1:11:55
  of mind. Tomorrow is a better day with
• 1:11:57
  you in it. So remember that.
• 1:11:58
  For Chris, I'm Chris. He's Mike.
• 1:12:00
  And for William Chandler, the author, the William xavier.com,
• 1:12:04
  check them out. Until next time, Peace, love you
• 1:12:07
  brother. Thank you, guys.
• 1:12:08
  Thank. You thank you for your time man.
• 1:12:10
  It's appreciated man. Time.
• 1:12:11
  Thank you. Viable.
• 1:12:12
  Nothing but love, man. Best of luck too.
• 1:12:15
  Same here man, thanks. On your journey, the place where
• 1:12:37
  you will go and feel the trail behind your eyes.
• 1:12:43
  Feel yourself and need yourself. Take a moment.
• 1:12:51
  Look. Until you see him fight the
• 1:12:54
  battle. That's you most weird.
• 1:12:57
  Fight the battle. Who is this baby?
• 1:14:06
  The. Now you're coming come down
• 1:14:24
  here. We haven't bounced all this and
• 1:14:27
  see the sand and he's fun fighting.
• 1:14:32
  Wait for the dead or. When he's going to arrive here
• 1:14:36
  for? The wind, he ain't no creature.
• 1:14:40
  We don't pray and smile. You should.
• 1:14:43
  You put it on the almighty man. You got a dream.
• 1:14:49
  Who in your life? The people.
• 1:14:52
  Soul in every man. Take the trip behind your eyes.
• 1:14:58
  Feel the soul revolution now. Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:15:07
  yeah, yeah. Take a moment.
• 1:15:13
  Listen to you. See it.
• 1:15:16
  But your bail into you more clear.
• 1:15:45
  You gotta, you gotta. You gotta, you gotta, you gotta.