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Today’s Popcorn Moment: Bernie Sanders: I am very worried that ICE is becoming a domestic army for Donald TrumpBernie Sanders: I am very worried that ICE is becoming a domestic army for Donald Trump · Tony Katz | Popcorn Moment

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  Speaker 1: there is more. I want to give you a one
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  Speaker 1: two punch regarding immigrations and customers enforcement, because we should
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  Speaker 1: at least understand how some other people might view the situation.
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  Speaker 1: I did not want Renee Good shot. I think what
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  Speaker 1: Renee Good and all these so called protesters are doing
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  Speaker 1: is disgusting. It is obvious that the left is looking
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  Speaker 1: for fights, wanting violence, and they don't care who dies.
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  Speaker 1: That is based on their actions. That does not mean
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  Speaker 1: that everybody who might look at their actions and say
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  Speaker 1: that's suspicable. Is okay with everything happening regarding Ice, and
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  Speaker 1: so there's this narrative that's starting to form, and I
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  Speaker 1: want to discuss it now. Let's start with everybody's favorite
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  Speaker 1: comedy Bernie Sanders. I'm very worried that is is becoming
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  Speaker 1: a domestic only for Donald Trump. And this goes way
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  Speaker 1: beyond the issue of immigration. It goes to the movement in.
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  Speaker 2: This country toward authoritarianism.
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  Speaker 1: In fear. Well, you're talking about a guy who's been
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  Speaker 1: talking about authoritarianism for forever. This is what he does
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  Speaker 1: while he wants to institute his communist approach and then
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  Speaker 1: claims that other people are authoritarian. That's adorable, but an
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  Speaker 1: interesting use of the terminology. He's worried that ICE is
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  Speaker 1: becoming a domestic army for Donald Trump. I would put
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  Speaker 1: forth to you that any of us, if we were
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  Speaker 1: just sitting you me on the barstool having abourbon, that
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  Speaker 1: we would be concerned at any time that a government
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  Speaker 1: could be used against the people. Certainly we saw this
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  Speaker 1: regarding President Trump with the doj of Joe Biden weaponized
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  Speaker 1: against Trump, weaponized against the people. We saw the irs
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  Speaker 1: weaponized against tea party groups. So the concern of on
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  Speaker 1: any level of this, considering we've seen this from our government,
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  Speaker 1: I think, is a legitimate one, and it rests in
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  Speaker 1: people's heads somewhere in the back in the occipital, however
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  Speaker 1: you want to describe it. That we know that our
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  Speaker 1: job is to be wary of an ever large, ever increasing,
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  Speaker 1: ever growing government. So I find it interesting that under
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  Speaker 1: analysis Bernie Sanders is engaged in a conversation of concern
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  Speaker 1: against the thing that he wants, which is government growth.
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  Speaker 1: But that leads us to this part two conversation. This
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  Speaker 1: is Jim vander High, who is Axios and he is
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  Speaker 1: on MS now miss now listen, I didn't name the thing,
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  Speaker 1: don't yell at me. And he's on there with the
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  Speaker 1: Morning Joe Folk, who used to be the intellectual morning show.
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  Speaker 1: And so this is about how people allegedly inside the
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  Speaker 1: White House are worried about the crackdown on immigration.
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  Speaker 2: But if you step back and you think about the
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  Speaker 2: top one hundred problems facing the country, the idea that
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  Speaker 2: some people are here illegally and working at Target in
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  Speaker 2: Minneapolis doesn't strike most people as one that would would.
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  Speaker 1: Crack that list, and I must start by saying that's
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  Speaker 1: not true. Now, I assume that Jim vander High is
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  Speaker 1: going to point to some polling, But the near eighty
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  Speaker 1: million Americans who voted for Donald Trump voted on this issue.
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  Speaker 1: You're right. They might be taking a look at their
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  Speaker 1: four oh one k They might be taking a look
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  Speaker 1: at gold prices. They might be taking a look at
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  Speaker 1: the economy at large. They might be taking a look
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  Speaker 1: at education or healthcare at any one moment. But if
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  Speaker 1: we want to talk about subjects that got trumped back
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  Speaker 1: into the White House, this is in the top three,
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  Speaker 1: Kamala Harris being number one and two. Can't have that, No, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: really can't have that. Oh and by the way, the
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  Speaker 1: border and illegal immigration's scots, it's all the same subjects.
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  Speaker 1: So while at any one moment his comment might be true, overall,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it is true. But give it a
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  Speaker 1: little more time.
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  Speaker 2: And then they look at the polling, and that polling's
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  Speaker 2: been shared with the President and his political team every day.
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  Speaker 2: It's getting worse in terms of what people think of
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  Speaker 2: the immigration policy. And they think about this idea of
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  Speaker 2: sending US troops or government officials or government, people working
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  Speaker 2: for the government into these cities, into democratic cities, and
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  Speaker 2: then having this level of violence, this level of chaos.
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  Speaker 1: So I would say to Jamna, who I'd never met,
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  Speaker 1: and I would have on the show, I would have
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  Speaker 1: no reason. I don't think non too that if the
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  Speaker 1: actions of ICE were in a vacuum, isolated from other realities,
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  Speaker 1: I think you'd have a point. And I would think
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  Speaker 1: that if there is an actual concern within the White House,
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  Speaker 1: I would argue, there's always concerns in the White House
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  Speaker 1: about how something looks. I think that's I think that
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  Speaker 1: would be standard politics. One oh one. I think this
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  Speaker 1: would be true of democratic administration, Republican administrations, libertarian administrations,
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  Speaker 1: if there ever was one right, that would be a
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  Speaker 1: standard thing if this existed solely and exclusively in a vacuum.
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  Speaker 1: But it doesn't. The actions of ICE, which someone on
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  Speaker 1: the political right could say, dude, they need to engage
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  Speaker 1: this much better, with much more focus, they really do.
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  Speaker 1: It could be countered by are you seeing the attacks
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  Speaker 1: from the left, the violence of the left, the videos
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  Speaker 1: calling for ICE agents to be killed, ice agents being
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  Speaker 1: shot at. Look how they're blocking traffic, Look they're throwing snowballs,
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  Speaker 1: they're throwing ice balls. They're getting violent. They are violent.
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  Speaker 1: They're burning things down, they're destroying buildings. His argument would work.
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  Speaker 1: You could actually see it and be like, Okay, therefore
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  Speaker 1: this or they should rethink certain levels of approach if
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  Speaker 1: it existed in a vacuum. And it doesn't. And that's
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  Speaker 1: what I think is missing here. What's missing on MS
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  Speaker 1: now someone like you and someone like me saying, guys,
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  Speaker 1: you're not looking at the whole story again