Latest / In Focus with Carolyn Hutcheson / The German Count - TPR's In Focus - August 25, 2026
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- 0:16From Troy Public Radio, this is In
- 0:19Focus, and I'm Carolyn Hutcheson.
- 0:23Genealogist Lynn Schlick brings us the story of a German
- 0:27count, his castle, and the dollar in your pocket as
- 0:31part of our Genealogy in Your Genes, spelled G-E-N-E-S,
- 0:36series. Lynn is past president of
- 0:40the Alabama Genealogical Society, and she joins us from Tuscaloosa.
- 0:47Lynn Schlick, welcome back to the program. Thank you.
- 0:50It's very nice to be here today, and I am excited
- 0:54to find out what you have discovered. Well, I have
- 0:58discovered something that every genealogist has
- 1:02trouble with, and that is the brick wall.
- 1:06And I'm going to tell you the story of my brick
- 1:10wall, a 5-century brick wall,
- 1:14and the coin that broke it. And it all
- 1:17started when my husband, Don Schlick,
- 1:21gave a keynote address at an international mining conference
- 1:25in Germany. They gave him a most unusual
- 1:30gift. It was a picture of Count
- 1:34Stephan Schlick, same last name as Don's,
- 1:38who was born in 1487 and died in 1526.
- 1:44And in the bottom half of this picture was
- 1:48a replica of a silver coin that had
- 1:52the picture of Count Stephan Schlick.
- 1:57And when he received that gift,
- 2:00I was bound and determined to find out how he was
- 2:04related to the Count. And that started my
- 2:08research. Were you trying to find out where and when
- 2:12this story started? Trying to find out who the common ancestor
- 2:17was. Was he a grandfather?
- 2:20Was he a great-grandfather? Several generations.
- 2:24But how was he related to him? They both came
- 2:27from the same country with the same last name, and they were
- 2:31both mining engineers. That's a lot of similarities.
- 2:35And the intriguing part is the story came with a coin.
- 2:40I searched everywhere trying to find a link.
- 2:44And of course, you start at the beginning, which was Don,
- 2:47and I went to his father and his grandfather, and I went
- 2:51back probably 4 or 5 generations.
- 2:56Of German ancestors who lived
- 3:00in Germany, but then I couldn't find
- 3:03another connection. So then I started with
- 3:07Count Stefan Schlick and worked backwards. Well,
- 3:11that didn't work either. So I did this over
- 3:15and over again. I'd go to FamilySearch, and every couple of
- 3:19months I'd try to find it, and I couldn't find it. But then a miracle
- 3:23occurred. My friend, Livona,
- 3:26came in from out of town, and while she was visiting,
- 3:30she said, by the way, did you ever find out how
- 3:34Don was related to the Count Steffenschlick?
- 3:38And I said, no, that is a 5-century brick wall I
- 3:42just can't break down. And she so kindly
- 3:46said, let me take it home and let me try to find
- 3:49it for you. Well, she called me back a week or so later
- 3:53and she said, I found the relationship.
- 3:58I was so excited. Don was just
- 4:01beside himself. And she found that Don
- 4:05and Count Stefan Schlick shared the same
- 4:09grandfather. The Schlicks in Germany owned
- 4:13silver mines. They minted the
- 4:18silver coin. And because of the
- 4:22new way they had of minting these coins, the coins
- 4:26were a higher quality, they were thicker, and consequently
- 4:32their coins were used throughout Europe.
- 4:36It was in the city of Jakobsthal— I
- 4:41hope I'm pronouncing that correctly— but This coin
- 4:45became known as Joachimsthalers
- 4:49because of the city that they were minted in. Well, the name
- 4:53got shortened to thalers,
- 4:57and then these coins traveled across the borders
- 5:01in Europe, finally the oceans,
- 5:04and over time the coin name of
- 5:08thaler evolved into the name dollar,
- 5:13and from there it is now called the
- 5:17dollar. So the dollar that we use today—
- 5:21this German coin evolved into the dollar
- 5:25that we use today, is that it? Yes,
- 5:28it's the name of dollar that we use today.
- 5:32What does the coin look like? Do you have it? I have it in the
- 5:36picture, and it is about the size of
- 5:40a silver dollar, and it has the Count's picture
- 5:43in it. But it was called a dollar,
- 5:46and that was just the term that they used for
- 5:51money. They would call it the dollar. What does his picture
- 5:55look like on the coin? The count? It is a profile.
- 6:00He has a large hat on, and the hat
- 6:04is sort of oval-shaped and flat.
- 6:07He has robes on, very regal looking.
- 6:12He looks like a count. It is just his head.
- 6:16That is on the coin. And of course, it has the name of the coin
- 6:20around it. When you started this research and your
- 6:23friend picked up on it, did you have any idea
- 6:27that not only were you researching a family member, the connection
- 6:31to a European count, but connection to
- 6:35currency? I had no idea.
- 6:39And what was so interesting is not only did
- 6:43she find the relationship But she found
- 6:46the location of the castle where the
- 6:50Schlicks lived. That castle, which is now used as
- 6:54a government administrative building,
- 6:57and in that building there is the Schlick Museum.
- 7:02They have the original coin there, and they have the
- 7:05picture and all of the information about the Schlicks
- 7:10and the dollar. As we call it today.
- 7:14What does the castle look like? It doesn't look like your
- 7:17typical castle, but it's a long brick
- 7:21building with several stories and a few towers
- 7:25on each end. It dates back to the 1500s.
- 7:30Now, there have been some additions to the castle,
- 7:34but the original castle is there in the center.
- 7:38Of this building, and that's where the Schlick Museum
- 7:42is. You have told us some amazing stories before,
- 7:45but I believe this one tops most of them. Well,
- 7:49Don and I struggled with finding this for years
- 7:53and years, and we found the information.
- 7:57I was able to tell him all of these astounding facts,
- 8:02and we did this just a month before he passed away.
- 8:06So what a great gift that was to him. Lynn,
- 8:09to think that he and his ancestor were both involved
- 8:14in silver mining. This is an amazing connection within the
- 8:18family itself. Yes. And I
- 8:22shared it with the children. And this gives you a sense
- 8:27of identity. You know, genealogy is not just
- 8:31names and dates and places, but it's the stories
- 8:34behind the people, and how did they live, and what
- 8:39can you learn from their life that you can apply in your life,
- 8:43and the problems that they went through. This gives you a
- 8:47feeling of belonging, of connection. There's a
- 8:51lot of interesting stories out there through
- 8:54genealogy and research. We can take genealogy
- 8:59and turn it into family history stories.
- 9:03Well, you shared a great story with us today, and I look forward to
- 9:07more. Thank you. It's nice being here, and I look forward to
- 9:10next time. That was Tuscaloosa genealogist Lynn
- 9:14Schlick, past president of the Alabama Genealogical Society.
- 9:19And more information about that organization can be found at
- 9:22the website algensoc.org.
- 9:28Thanks for joining us for In Focus, which is a podcast wherever
- 9:32you get your podcasts, and feel free to get in touch at infocus@troy.edu.
- 9:39I'm Carolyn Hutcheson, and this is listener-supported Troy
- 9:43Public Radio.