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Freewill Or Choice? · Outcast

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I don't know man. I guess like sometimes like for
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like when you're so focused on God, you know, family becomes
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2nd and God becomes first, right?
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Yeah. In your mind, right?
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Yeah, there's a lot of take Scripture to back that up.
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You know, I mean, you can, you can be very radical about it or
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not, right? You know, I mean, Christ did
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say, you know, if you love your mother and your father more than
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me, you're not worthy of me, right.
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He's he's obviously not implying to hate them.
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No, absolutely not. But when it comes to decision
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making towards the things of the world versus Christ that obtain
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to family, I guess you could say yeah, that you would.
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Uphold right. Right.
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That is basically what he's implying.
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Yeah. And those challenges might occur
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in someone's family, especially for a believer or for someone
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who, for instance, was not a believer.
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It becomes one. The family then doesn't
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understand that. Yeah, that be Catholic, Orthodox
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or Protestant. The sacrifices you make to full
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on serve God are like a challenge to those they don't
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understand. That's true.
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That's very true. But for a believer, presenting
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yourself daily as that lifting sacrifice, like Paul talks
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about, it challenges, other challenges arise because your
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whole family is also a believer, right?
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Right. And there are moments where you
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do get frustrated, you get mad. There are moments like for
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example, today I was like around evening, I was like frustrated
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for no reason. There is no reason for me to be
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upset. Like could have been the heat.
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I don't like the heat. Oh, it was hot today, Yeah.
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But I, I just frustrated, dude. Then I was kind of like take it
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out, taking it on my dad and then on my mom.
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And I'm like, right, I was getting a bit out of control, so
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I had to like, just calm myself down.
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Like, you know what, I got to chill out, you know?
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Yeah, yeah. There's just some things we
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don't have anything in in control.
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We can plan for things, we can come up with ideas, you know,
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but sometimes it's just not going to might work.
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It might not work. Right, right.
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No, it's true. Absolutely.
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And so I understand you want to do God's will and be away from
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everybody and just do it right without being interrupted or,
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or, or being challenged to why you're doing.
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It. Yes, exactly.
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Like like what you said, family. Yeah.
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So in the context of that family, in what Christ saying
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families is a weakness? It can be a weakness, yeah,
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absolutely. But if the whole family centre,
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you know Christ is the centre of it.
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Everybody has one mindset, 1 spirit.
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They're together in the. Strong.
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Yeah, absolutely. So in that case, it's not
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necessarily a weakness per SE. Everybody's strong, serving God.
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Yeah. Right.
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But truthfully, yeah, we use family inevitably turns out to
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be a weakness. It does, man.
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I can't believe we're talking about this.
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No, no, you know, actually, like, you know that verse in
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Genesis, right where it says husband and wife will leave
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mother and father and we'll be on their own right?
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You know, no, it makes it makes a lot of sense why, why they
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would leave mother and father. In the context of the the
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culture during that time, yeah, I'm not saying to stay with
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family, but you, you can also like the Jewish community and
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the Muslim community. They all join together as a
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family and work hard towards a goal, and that's what they're
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able to be successful. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Right in that regard. But I I firmly believe that what
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you're saying, based on what Scripture says it means that
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your decision making's no longer depend on what.
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Yes. A father and mother says you're
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not married, so you're independent now in regards to
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decision making, absolutely. So that's why it says, you know
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what does it say? Husband and wife?
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Yeah. Leave.
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Leave. Right.
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That's why the husband and wife leave mother and father.
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So they become one flesh. Yeah, absolutely.
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So it depends on the culture. I mean, you know where you're
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at, where you are. Some cultures, especially in the
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Latin American culture, there's a lot of families that are very
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family oriented. Yeah, yeah.
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I'm not so much family oriented. Like I don't have too much
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orientation to that. But you know, I do care about my
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family. If they need me, I'll be there.
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As long as it I'm like, it means something matters.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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But in some cultures, they firmly practice that, like the
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Jewish, Muslim, the culture they do practice that like, you know,
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husband and wife leaves your parent, like, you know, leave
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them in that regard, meaning you don't depend on them.
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Yeah. You don't depend on them.
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Yeah. But equally, the Jewish
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community, the Muslim community and other communities, they
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they, they join together sometimes for the greater good
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of, I guess, survival. We're talking about different
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Times Now here. Yeah, that also.
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That also could be an ambition factor.
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Yeah, that's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Let's join together. Yeah, To become rich, that could
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be a factor. Yeah, like an ambition factor,
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yeah. Or another factor could be like,
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you know what, let's join together and let's survive.
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Let's be OK, that's another factor.
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Or you can. I mean, just because you join
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doesn't mean you're still dependent on them.
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No, You guys are working together towards something.
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Yeah, yeah. But yes, scripture in that
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regard, based on that culture, that's the most sane and logical
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thing to do. Right, right.
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Absolutely, Absolutely. If you were to do it, that's
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fine. Yeah, now what?
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You know, I will say this like the the deeper you go with God,
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the more he reveals to you, the more you know, you know exactly
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what to do. You know how long the path, you
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know, like you will be challenged by it from, from
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family, hardcore, Yeah. You know, I'm sure things that
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you do, your family may not understand.
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No, definitely not man. I mean leaving a few like just
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letting go of like some careers and not accepting them and and
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just doing God's will for me. That's Pete's pro.
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Like I'm I'm the most happiest man.
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In my case, they're understanding because, you know,
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my parents are ministers. Yeah.
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And it's not necessarily that challenging at all.
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They don't even question her or anything like that.
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However, you know, there's some certain way of thinking, not
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that it's different, but sometimes where we stand in
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regards to the foundation of our faith.
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Yeah, that's the thing, Those those.
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Little things, but it's not major.
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Absolutely. Or at least I don't think
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they're major. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You know, The thing is this show, like I, I mean when, when
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scripture says like when David says, you know, I'll give my
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myself as a free will offering. Right.
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Yep, and here we go. And as a free will offering, you
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know, basically like he's, he's giving up his desires and what
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he doesn't desire, his choice A and choice B, he's he's legit
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giving up and giving his body to God for whatever he wills.
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Now as human beings, like I don't believe that we have free
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will. You know what I mean?
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Yeah, yeah. I don't believe we have free
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will. Because if it was true that we
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have free will, then man, we can will ourselves to anything.
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We are outside of two options. Right, right.
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But at the end of the day, we're either going to heaven or we're
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going to hell. There's no I'm going to escape
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from this. These two options right here.
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You know what, It's interesting how you say that there's no
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escaping from this. They're going to see God as like
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this, you know, bully. And some Christian would think
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that, oh, you guys think very sadistic and make God seem very
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sadistic. Oh, if you don't do my will,
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you're going to perish. Who?
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Whose universe do you live in? Yeah, right.
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Honestly, yeah, right. This is not to fear monger.
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No either it's not. And it's interesting that you
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brought up free will speaking about anger and frustrations and
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family and weaknesses towards the family.
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As a believer, if you once you get a a good understanding of
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what free will means, that also will pretty much depict your
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relationship with your family. Yes, yeah, absolutely right.
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Because you know, The thing is this, you know, you know,
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getting really close to God, you know, like I said, I've said,
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you know, a few seconds back I realized like, man, we don't
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have free will. We just have a choice A and
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choice B. Like like we just have like we
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can either choose God or or not. And just those two options
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themselves can cause one or the other, you know, and you're, you
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know, when I was in the world and everything, you know,
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there's a scripture and we're going to get to it where it
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talks about how like the youth, like the youth, like do whatever
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your heart desires, do everything you desire, right,
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right. And someone that hasn't had like
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an intimate relationship with God like that, then like they
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assume that like you can do whatever you want as long as you
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have got in the picture. But that's not how it.
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Works. These are some believers.
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Yeah, yeah. Like you can pursue your career,
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you can do this, you can do that.
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So that's a that's a hard topic. No, no, I'm.
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I'm not. Yeah.
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No, no, no, I'm disagreeing with you.
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No, no, Yeah, yeah. It's just don't touch that topic
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or else you're radical. You're too.
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You're too much. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No, no. No, impossible.
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You know what? Now that you brought that up,
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you know free will, right? It's a thought and is used in
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such a way you know to do whatever you want as an excuse
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without. Consequence, correct?
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Yeah. Non believers and believers
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think this way and the full, full expression without divine
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correction. That's how that's how they think
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it, right? Like it's it's like you can
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express yourself without any consequence.
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Yeah, exactly. That be you being a believer or
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that you being a non believer to a non believer.
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What do they care? I mean if they don't even
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believe this right to a believer to a certain extent they express
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themselves so much and they take the the the the cross ass like
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this. You know I'm not perfect got got
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you know we're good we're good yeah, yeah, it's not not really
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the case yeah, yeah, yeah. And also another thing because
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of that full expression. I believe in our language.
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We have a difficulty on understanding things because in
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our language, English, we we need context, right?
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And in other languages they have word, you know, words for each
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little thing for it to mean. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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Or sometimes one word will mean many things.
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Well, in this case, free will, you know, it's like it means
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what it means free will. Like you can will whatever you
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want. And yeah, have the freedom to do
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so. Correct.
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Yeah. And we genuinely don't, by
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definition, we, we can't, we can't really truly express that
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because we, we, we only have options Option A and option B.
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Those options that are in A could be option A1A2A3A4 all the
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all the way to 100 or option BB1B2B3.
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You know, yeah, yeah, you only have two options.
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And that inevitably will be filtered out.
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Exactly. Right, correct.
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So if, if, if you can't override those two options, tell me where
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do you have free will? Right, by definition what it
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actually means, but in the context of what were meant
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decision makers, the ability to make a choice in that we can say
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you have free will. In the context of just having
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option A&B like you can, you can choose, you have the freedom,
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right to choose point A or I mean option B.
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If you cannot override that, you then truly don't have full
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autonomy. Like you don't, you don't don't.
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You're not God. Exactly.
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Absolutely, 100%. So, so I just wanted to clarify
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that. Yeah.
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And, and interestingly, you brought up the youth thing.
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And as youth, right when we get frustrated, angry with family,
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we want to do whatever we want. Yeah.
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Correct. Yeah, that's correct.
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But also when we're following God, we want to do God's will
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and, and kind of ignore what the family's saying.
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So it it, it there's multiple scenarios, yeah.
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But in the case that you brought up, you know, Ecclesiastics 11
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verse Chapter 11, verse 9 to 10, it says you who are young, be
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happy while you are young and let your heart give you joy in
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the days of your youth. Follow the ways of your heart
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and whatever your eyes see, but know that for all the things God
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will bring you into judgement. So then banish anxiety from your
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heart and cast out troubles of your body, for your youth and
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vigor are meaningless. Wow, look at that.
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So at the end of the day, it's always going to end up in God's
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hands, no matter what. Yeah, so the reason why?
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Yeah, because that's why he says vanish anxiety.
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Because when we're young, bro, we're so anxious.
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We want to go everywhere. We want to do this, we want to
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do all that, right. And and we're talking about
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Solomon, who at the end, like he, he was kind of like I, I
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wouldn't say the press, but he was just disappointed with
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himself. Yeah, he was like that.
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He's like, he realized what was I doing?
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Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
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So you brought that up. It was interesting.
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And so David, in the Scriptures, basically what you said in
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Psalms, he's saying that he will, he says, you know, like I
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will make a sacrifice of free will as an offering to God,
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right. So in this context here, he's
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not, he's not saying that like obviously it doesn't say that
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he's God or he has autonomy. What he is saying is all his
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options that be A, that be B, he's giving that up.
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Yeah. So like, for example, think
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about option A being all your interested or what?
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All the things that you're interested, all your desires,
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goals, dreams and all that, think about all those things
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versus option B were like the things that you're not
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interested, the things that are not your desires, not your goal,
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none of those things. Yeah, right.
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Or, or it could be either or God could be option A Option B can
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be, I don't believe in this. It could be anything.
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David is giving up those two options, right?
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So he's basically giving up his ability to make choice.
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In other words, I'm going to just trust you.
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I'm going to just you guide me now.
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Yes, exactly. Like you.
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Yeah, 100%. And he presents that, yes, as a
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sacrifice. He's sacrificing his ability to
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make a choice. Yeah, as I'm offering,
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absolutely, absolutely. And when you brought that up, I
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was like, interesting, I don't know if you have the verse.
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You want to read it? I do, yeah.
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Psalms 54 it says God hear my prayer right.
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Listen to the words from my mouth.
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God is my helper, the Lord is the sustainer of my life.
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I will sacrifice a free will offering to you.
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I will praise your name Lord, because it is good, for He has
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rescued me from every trouble. My eye has looked down on my
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enemies. OK, so for those who may not
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know, in contacts, right, we kind of just took out some
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stuff. But the verse is about him
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asking God to destroy all the enemies because the enemies are
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after him, right? And so David recognizes his
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mercies and how God does come through.
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Yeah. So because of that recognition,
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what does he do? He's like, you know what?
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Wow. I you have control over
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everything. So I'm going to give up myself
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unto you, Lord, Get my free will, My option A and my option
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B. You know what I mean?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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You know, Absolutely. And this is quite honestly, this
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is not really a difficult like theological conversation.
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This shouldn't be like a mathematics session.
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Like to figure it out, Do we or we don't?
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No, no, no. Yeah, no, it's just my thing.
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My thing is, is this. It's like you either are going
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to end up in hell or heaven. You don't.
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You're not outside of those two options.
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So what free will do you really have at the end of the day?
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So, So what you're saying, like what you're saying is true
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because I do believe in God. God is real, right?
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But then others would be like, well, how do you know that?
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How do you know that to be true? Which is a different
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conversation, right? But for a believer, they're
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like, yeah, you know, but God loves us all that that is true.
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Yeah. He created Adam and Eve out of
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love. God is the only one with free
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will by definition. He's the only one by free will.
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He wields eternity. Yes, he's outside of time.
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Yeah. So he's the only one who can
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express truly what free at free will actually means.
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He has full autonomy. Yes.
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What does that mean? That means that he can determine
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he knows every consequence, positive or negative.
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Yeah, predetermines. Yes, he does.
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There's a predestination. He knows both paths and he knows
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that we are in the framework. Yes, absolutely.
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We're not outside of the framework.
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No, it's true. Absolutely.
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So you're going to tell me that he's a sadistic God.
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Oh, well, you know, he did this to prove a point.
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He's love. He wants to create, created Adam
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and Eve and all other creations were created by God, his word,
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by his word, by his free will. He has full autonomy because of
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love. Absolutely.
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You know, and there's one thing that you were actually, quite
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honestly, you, you actually made me realize it.
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But when you said I was like, wow, I just clicked on my head.
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How this body that we're in, God created Adam and Eve.
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God was creating Adam and Eve with his free will.
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Yes, Yeah, absolutely. No.
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Yeah, This body that we have that he created, he created.
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Is out of his own free will. So that verse when David says I
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give my free will offering on to you right, and then we look at
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Romans where Paul talks about that this body is living
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sacrifice. I will you know, this is true
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worship that this body, you know, you give it to God, you
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know, as true worship. I'm just like yo had that then
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that verse in in psalms makes so much sense when David says I'll
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give my free will offering that he gave all himself up to God.
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That he surrendered. He surrendered fully.
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Fully everything, all you know. So I'm just like, this body was
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created out of God's free will, his own free will.
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Interesting. See, when you said that to me
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when we're reading and then you said that to me, No, you
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actually, you I don't know if you realized it in real time.
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I don't know if you were realizing it in real time.
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Oh, yeah. As you were saying.
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Yeah. It was because when you were
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saying I was like, we. I was like, what?
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Yeah, I was. I was not that I was confused.
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I was just like, that's so true. Yeah.
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And so to what Brian is saying, to clarify what what Brian is
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saying that this body that we have, Adam and Eve and all the
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descent is up until this moment, this was created out of his own
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free will. Yes.
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So. When, when, when you think that,
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oh, God gave us, God gave us free will.
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Yes, we have a reflection of that, which is to make
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decisions. Yep.
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Right. If we were created in his image
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and likeness and in his glory, of course we're going to have a
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reflection of that. Yeah.
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In regards to making decisions. And so when you, when you had
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told me that, then I remembered what I told you.
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Paul says this to presents ourselves, our bodies to be
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presented as a living for the sacrifice and that this is our
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worship. I I have the verse.
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I don't know if you want me to read it, It's Romans 1212.
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Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah.
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Therefore, brothers and sisters, in view of the mercies of God, I
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urge you to present, present your bodies as a living
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sacrifice, yes, holy and pleasing to God.
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This is your true worship. That's worship right there.
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Yeah, just surrendering. Exactly.
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Just giving up your your your choices.
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Your choices right there and then yeah, look at that just.
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Right there is worship right, yes, if a believer ever doubts
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if they a believer ever wonders like I don't I don't want I
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don't know if I had worshipping or kind of I was like well, I
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literally tested like this. I was like well, do you live for
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God? No dude, I do do this and that
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giving up everything. You're worshipping him already.
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Yes, you're living exactly 100. Percent.
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So to confinish it, it says, do not be conformed to the
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following. Do not be conformed to this age,
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but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that
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you may discern what is good, pleasing and perfect will of
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God. Yes, Amen.
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Absolutely, absolutely. So true worship is also
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recognizing that you are not your own, but like surrendering
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your ability to make a choice and fully trusting in God.
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Exactly. So your body at the end, like
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it's true man, your body at the end, whether you you do not
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choose God or you choose God, it's always going to go back to
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God. Either you're going to be a
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child of wrath or a child of righteousness.
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Exactly. So this body, at the end of the
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day, is technically not your own.
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No. Now I do have First Corinthians
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here, right? It says this right here, First
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Corinthians 618 to 20. It says flee sexual immorality.
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Every other sin a person commits is outside of the body, but the
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person who is sexually immoral sins against his own body.
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Don't you know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who
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is in you, whom you have from a God.
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You are not your own, for you were bought a price.
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So glorify God with your body. So right here we see you were
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bought at a price. Your body is not your own.
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You the moment you say like yes to God, like you know you give
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your life to God like this body was by depressing you, you
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surrender to God. Those chackles of sin are broken
24:28
and you follow God. So his body is not your own.
24:32
You have given up the ability to to like I guess you could say
24:35
like you give up option A and option B.
24:39
You basically say God you choose for me, His body is not your
24:43
own. Exactly.
24:44
And others will will say, well, I mean well, if he knows
24:48
everything well, didn't he own us in the beginning?
24:50
Why did he have to die? And all that now that's that's a
24:55
good point that you you brought up because look what Ephesians
24:57
213 says right here, right interesting.
25:00
It says and you were dead in your trespasses.
25:03
So you were dead and since in which you previously walked.
25:07
Oh, OK, according to the ways of this world, according to the
25:10
ruler of the power of the year, the Spirit now working in the
25:14
disobedience, we to all previously lived among them in
25:21
our fleshly desires, carrying out the inclination of our flesh
25:27
and thoughts, and we were by nature children under wrath, as
25:32
the others were also. What do you think about that
25:35
man? So the byproduct of what Adam
25:45
and Eve did set us up for. Failure, right?
25:51
They set us up. Absolutely.
25:52
Yeah. Because when God created Adam
25:56
and Eve, or Vim created Adam and Eve, when he placed the tree,
26:06
when he created everything, and when he just gave the order from
26:10
everything you can eat but of this tree you cannot.
26:12
At that very moment He establishes unto them the
26:16
ability to make a choice. Right, exactly.
26:18
Automatically. And it's not free will, guys.
26:21
It's not free will. What did he say?
26:22
You can eve all these trees, yes, but of this one you cannot.
26:25
You cannot, so there's only an option once.
26:27
Again. Yeah, right.
26:29
Yes. At that moment he establishes
26:30
that with them. So they know now that order.
26:35
The moment Eve decides to let her eyes she busted on the
26:41
fruit, right. Look what it says here.
26:44
This what was interesting according to the ruler of the
26:47
Principle, the Spirit now working in disobedience.
26:52
When she ate the fruit, the flesh awoken and felt naked, and
26:58
now the Spirit was also on contrary with the flesh.
27:03
Absolutely. So for them, at that moment,
27:06
what we were experiencing, they didn't necessarily experience
27:09
it. It was just but the beginning,
27:11
right? It was until after Cain, Abel
27:14
and the descendants that the spirit was now being a part of
27:17
the disobedient, 'cause it was dead.
27:18
What was it, What could it do? Look what it says, right?
27:22
So we too all lived among in our flesh, the desire carrying out
27:26
the inclinations of our flesh and thoughts, and we are by
27:28
nature children of wrath. Right.
27:30
So now if we are children of wrath, what does God, what does
27:34
God have to do? If Christ says if they don't
27:37
believe in me, they're condemned already, What do you think he
27:40
has to do? What does he?
27:41
Got to do. Oh, he has to execute his.
27:42
Back he has to dispose of it. Yeah, absolutely.
27:46
If it's not his, why should he keep it around?
27:51
Exactly. You know what I mean.
27:52
He becomes useless, right? Like, yeah.
27:54
So when he said you've been bought a price that means you
27:56
are your own, that's not he's not going to dispose of you.
28:00
You're not part of something greater.
28:01
Exactly. You were bought at a price
28:04
Exactly. So yeah, absolutely.
28:06
And so that people understand God's sovereignty, right, and
28:11
what we're saying, right? Because he's the one who has
28:15
true free will. Yeah.
28:16
Right. Absolutely.
28:18
You did put here Romans 9/14/24 and it says you will say to me,
28:24
therefore this is Paul writing to to the Romans.
28:27
Why then why? Why then, does he still find
28:31
fault for who resists his will? Right.
28:35
On the contrary, who are you, a human being, to talk back to
28:39
God? Will what is formed say to the
28:43
one who formed it? Why did you make me like this?
28:46
Or has the Potter not right over the clay to make from the same
28:51
lump of peace of of pottery for honor, and others for dishonor?
28:56
And what if God, wanting to display his wrath and to make
29:00
his power known, endured with such patience objects of wrath,
29:05
prepared for destruction? And what if he did this to make
29:10
known his riches of his glory and object of mercy that he
29:14
prepared beforehand for glory? So he's he's he's he's depicting
29:19
2 objects here. Right.
29:23
With much patient objects of wrath.
29:26
So there's an object there. Prepare for destruction.
29:28
And here's another object, Object of Mercy.
29:32
Yeah, Mercy, are you? Prepared beforehand for glory.
29:36
We do not have control. No, we don't.
29:38
We do not, OK. No.
29:40
What we can decide in that regard we have the control, but
29:44
outside of that we don't. Yeah, we don't.
29:47
Absolutely. And even if we were to put set
29:49
this aside, there's atheist agnostics that agree that free
29:54
will is not seen in nature. It's not seen right.
29:59
And if in fact evolution were true, then truly then creation
30:02
has its own autonomy because it can.
30:04
Evolve, right? Exactly.
30:05
It can determine, it somehow knows that it will evolve from
30:09
this challenge. Absolutely right.
30:11
And you know what? That's why I think a lot of
30:12
atheists, they come to the conclusion like, oh, we're in
30:15
some simulation because they realize they're like, we're like
30:20
in some bubble. Well, I mean, if you were to
30:22
think about it that way, it can feel that way because I mean,
30:25
can we exceed outside of these two paths?
30:28
No, no we can't. So yeah, in, in in that way you
30:31
can you can see that all of this was created.
30:35
Yeah, right. Absolutely.
30:36
So we only have choices. And so this verse basically Paul
30:43
depicts the sovereignty of God. Yeah, in every way, right.
30:47
How we be informed that of clay are questioning the Potter
30:51
molded the clay. Yeah, Yeah, right.
30:53
Exactly. So so God hardens and softens
30:55
the heart while at the same time he he respects our so-called
31:01
free will. He respects it.
31:03
Yeah. But he can harden and soften it.
31:05
Absolutely. That be directly or indirectly.
31:07
Absolutely. And those moments of direct or
31:10
indirect, we don't even notice them, right, Because he's
31:13
respecting also. Yeah.
31:15
Remember, he's not going to force you to serve.
31:17
Him exactly. Right.
31:18
So either way, there are two ends.
31:20
And since we do not have any autonomy in overcoming this
31:25
reality that we're subjected to, therefore we're subjected to
31:30
option A&B. Yes, it.
31:31
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
31:34
So it really comes down to man trusting and fearing in the.
31:36
Lord yeah man, you got to trust in the one that that can destroy
31:41
the body and the soul. Yes, Matthew 1028 says don't
31:45
fear those who kill the body but are not able to kill the soul,
31:49
rather fear him who is able to destroy both soul and body in
31:55
hell. Exactly.
31:56
So what option do you think we have?
31:58
Right, we only have. That's it.
32:00
We only have an option of choosing God or not.
32:02
That is our clothing. Yes.
32:04
It's his righteousness, trusting in Him, fearing in him.
32:07
Yes, that's our white robe. Like it talks about in
32:09
Revelation how it says, you know, wash your room, right?
32:12
Those that wash the robes daily, they will have the right to tree
32:15
of life. And, and like our brother Wilmer
32:18
said, he said truthfully being a slave to.
32:22
Righteousness, Absolutely. And you want to know something
32:25
too? God gives us the strength to
32:31
make a choice. He gives us the strength to say
32:35
no to temptation. He gives us the strength to say
32:37
no to whatever will deviate us from His will.
32:40
Yeah, He gives us the strength to make those.
32:42
Choices. Exactly.
32:44
That was perfectly set. So there's no excuse.
32:47
That's why Paul says, Ah, thanks be through Christ in one hand I
32:50
can serve, you know, the law of of the flesh or sin and in the
32:55
law of God in the other hand, Yep.
32:56
So he understood. He's like, thanks be through
32:58
Christ, I can do all things. Exactly.
33:01
And so, I mean, I know it's difficult.
33:04
I mean, I want to say difficult. It can be challenging for
33:09
believers, you know, and to be honest, like social media
33:11
doesn't help. No, it it really does not help
33:14
and it's kind of sad dude. Honestly, if you're a believer
33:17
and you don't like this, that's kind of sad because me being a
33:23
child of God, I feel like word he's he's in control, right,
33:27
right. That's my king, like I'm that's
33:29
the one that I'm serving right, right.
33:31
That he literally has full autonomy, like he has like of
33:34
control of anything he can say that is eternal and that is not
33:37
eternal. He has the ability to do
33:39
anything and everything, of course, and.
33:42
I, I I've told you this before, and I'll say it quickly.
33:46
God's sovereignty is outside of the framework, as we've already
33:49
mentioned, and I wanted to use my father as an example back in
33:53
199798. I've told it to you before.
33:56
Yeah. The Hurricane Ridge happened in
33:57
Central America, Honduras, and he saw that as an opportunity.
34:01
Like, you know what? There's an opportunity for me to
34:03
leave, right? And they weren't leaving just to
34:05
like, be ambitious. They wanted to go work for the
34:08
Lord over there, right, right, right.
34:10
He had some stuff already, same place, house and everything.
34:12
We were literally leaving, bro. And that's what he had in his
34:17
mind. He wanted to go out on the
34:19
streets and preach over there. You see, that's such a.
34:24
It's a good plan, right? Dude any believer would be like
34:26
what? Awesome.
34:27
It'd be like anybody would be like, you know, I want to do
34:28
this career and through there I'm going to preach the word or
34:32
that'd be through music or that'd be through acting.
34:35
That'd be through sports. Like you, you're like, I want to
34:37
go through and, and I'm doing gospel because I'm going to, I'm
34:40
going to share the gospel and all of that, right?
34:42
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But.
34:44
That doesn't seem to be the case all the time.
34:46
Even though it's a good thing, it doesn't mean guys look it.
34:50
It's not my plan though. Right, right.
34:52
You see, and that's when David's saying I will give this free
34:56
will as a as an offering. Like bro, even if you desire it
34:59
or not, I'm giving it up. It's you, God, it's just
35:01
whatever you want. So yeah, I bring that example up
35:05
because after there was some severance divine intervention,
35:10
right? Some sisters at at church that
35:14
the, you know, the Spirit of the Lord came and said, No 3 * 3
35:17
different people with not knowing what, what's going on,
35:21
right? And then he was like was told,
35:25
Oh no, I need you to go to New Jersey.
35:27
That's where I need you to pastor.
35:30
Spread my word. There you go.
35:33
That's not what he wanted. Right, he did not want that.
35:36
And and and mind you, I've been told that my mum married and
35:40
asked God. I want to marry someone who's
35:41
not a pastor. And guess what happened?
35:45
The irony of that. Hey, listen, listen, when you
35:48
truly gave, you know your life to God.
35:51
I'm sorry man. So so when he was confronted
35:54
that he went to my mom, his wife, and uh huh, he was like,
36:00
you know, you know this and this is happening and my mom's like,
36:05
OK, let's do it. Scott's will and let's go.
36:10
Exactly. And she's been supportive ever
36:12
since. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
36:14
Like I can't, I can't say she hasn't, right, Although they're
36:17
my parents and sometimes, you know, it happens, bro.
36:21
But but that tenacity that they have, insane.
36:24
But right. What I'm trying to do big to you
36:27
is he could have said no to that calling, right?
36:31
He could have continued what he had in plan.
36:34
But why do you think he hesitated?
36:38
Your dad, why? He hesitated.
36:39
Yeah. Like to what to like?
36:42
To to that intervention that the Spirit of the Lord did.
36:46
You know, I could be wrong, but I feel like, you know, he, he
36:49
probably hesitated because he's like, what?
36:51
But this what I'm doing is this not like something great God
36:54
like when I'm I'm trying to go help out poor people and do this
36:57
and still be like trying to be aligned with you.
37:00
Always one would say, yes, it's God's will.
37:04
But it seems like in the other hand, it's like God was like,
37:10
Nah, I want you to do this instead.
37:11
Yeah, this is this is what I truly want.
37:14
And why he hesitated to move forward to Central America is
37:17
because he fears and he trusts the Lord.
37:21
Yeah, just like I'm sure like any other woman, right?
37:25
I mean, sister in Christ or brother in Christ, Right.
37:28
And we've lost that taste, right?
37:30
We've lost that seasoning. I don't just in that kind of
37:33
way. Right.
37:33
So you're basically saying like, like we've gotten to this point
37:37
where, like, it looks right, It seems right, so let's go along
37:41
with it. Yeah, Without even consulting
37:43
with God. Yeah, Yeah, there is a sense of
37:44
consulting. Remember we were speaking about
37:46
it like last night where like a believer is growing with God,
37:50
mature, like they have left the elementary stuff.
37:53
Yeah, and they're grown. Yeah, like Hebrews says. 6,
37:55
right? Yeah, it says that.
37:57
Let's leave the elementary teachings.
37:59
Yeah, OK, which meaning like OK, this is it's time to the solid
38:02
food, right, right. Let's grow.
38:04
So yeah, yeah, you're going to be grown with God.
38:07
So when did like options start coming to you should be able to
38:10
discern quickly. Absolutely.
38:11
Yeah, if you go consult that's fine.
38:14
But I mean already at a level where you should be able to
38:17
determine right then and then no, this is not God's, this is
38:20
not, this is not from God, right, right.
38:22
Absolutely. But if it's something way
38:24
heavier where it's it's exceeding more than your
38:27
maturity, then assault before anything.
38:30
I agree. Yeah, absolutely.
38:31
So he prayed and he believed, right?
38:37
That's an example. Yeah.
38:38
And you have examples in your life.
38:40
You've spoken about them in the past podcast.
38:42
Right, Right. Right.
38:43
And we have Isaiah, you know, a guy who was told, I'm not saying
38:47
it says this year in diverse, but I mean, he was told to
38:51
preach for several years, you know, bare without clothes.
38:56
Yeah, like naked. Naked, yeah.
38:58
Amongst the streets of Jerusalem, Yeah.
39:01
Just keep in mind there. Yeah, that's crazy.
39:04
So you there's a verse here and and these are just couple verses
39:07
that we jotted down that you can pretty much seek out
39:10
sovereignty. Yeah, this, this right here just
39:12
shows us more like, yo God, God has free will.
39:15
He's the only one that has free will.
39:17
Like there's one here, like Jeremiah said, I choose you
39:20
before you were formed in the womb, right?
39:22
I set you apart before you were born.
39:24
I appointed you a prophet to the nation.
39:26
I appointed you, yeah. When someone speaks that way,
39:29
he's not speaking in time. Right.
39:33
He's speaking outside of this. Speaking way, completely outside
39:36
of this. Right?
39:36
Absolutely. Right.
39:37
Absolutely. Isaiah says Isaiah 46910 says
39:41
remember what happened was I am the God, there is no other.
39:44
I am God. No one is like me.
39:45
I declare the end and the beginning.
39:48
Who what? What does he do?
39:50
He says I declare the end from the beginning.
39:54
Right, my plan will take place and I will do all my will.
39:58
Exactly. What?
39:59
You know what I mean? I will do all my will your.
40:02
Here's another one, Psalms 13916.
40:04
Your eyes saw me when I was formless.
40:06
All the days were written in your book and planned before a
40:09
single one of them began. So like you're looking at,
40:14
you're basically looking at this is a couple verses, right,
40:17
right, right. I mean, there's so many, there's
40:18
so many. And it's funny how, like, we
40:21
started the podcast truthfully for the audience, whoever is
40:26
listening, there was a real frustration from my part and so
40:30
many things that were going out today.
40:31
And you have been for you, right?
40:33
It's so funny that it was happening simultaneously.
40:36
Yeah, right. And it's this is where I can say
40:40
it was like, it was where like the enemy was setting us up.
40:44
And then the flesh also wanted to take part and say, no, you
40:47
know what? We're not going to do this.
40:48
Yeah. And no, this is, this is, this
40:52
is something important, yeah, to know.
40:54
And, and there there is no, there's no way to go deeper than
40:59
this, right? Then free will.
41:00
I mean like, honestly, right? I think it's yeah, yeah, it's
41:04
pretty simple, right? Like pretty self-explanatory,
41:07
like it's just you either have an option A or an option B.
41:09
Like at the end of the day, either heaven or hell, you're
41:14
not out exempt from those two options.
41:17
Yeah, and there's a verse I want to read this here now that we've
41:22
mentioned, like all these verses that talk about His sovereignty.
41:25
Hebrews 6/13/20 chapter 6, verse 13 to 20 says for when God made
41:30
a promise to Abraham, since he had no greater to swear by, he
41:34
swore by himself. OK, I will indeed bless you, and
41:38
I will greatly multiply. And so after waiting patiently,
41:42
Abraham obtained the promise. For people swear by something
41:48
greater than themselves, and for them confirming oath ends in
41:51
every dispute. His unchangeable purpose even
41:53
more clearly to the heirs of the promise, He guaranteed it with
41:57
an oath. So that through two unchangeable
42:00
things in which it is impossible for God to lie, he who have fled
42:05
to refuge might have strong encouragement to seize the hope
42:08
set before us. We have this hope as an anchor
42:11
for the soul. Firm and secure, it enters the
42:16
inner sanctuary behind the current.
42:18
Jesus has entered there on our behalf as a forerunner, because
42:22
he has become the high priest forever.
42:25
We can leave it there. Now you this is this is
42:30
interesting here because you can see.
42:35
That God makes a promise to Abraham, Yes.
42:37
He does. He does a.
42:40
Promise. Hear me out.
42:42
A promise that he doesn't even get to see.
42:45
No, we're the ones living it. And we're the ones.
42:47
Seeing it, yeah. And living it.
42:48
Absolutely right. So if he.
42:51
Made a promise. That is unchangeable.
42:57
And knew. That this was going to happen.
42:59
And Abraham didn't even get to see, and you and I get to see
43:02
it. What does that tell you about
43:03
God? Once again, what does it tell
43:06
you that whatever God. Says he will.
43:08
Never say it in vain. It's going to happen.
43:10
It's going to happen. No, it's going to happen no
43:12
matter what. And.
43:14
Another thing that I thought was bro that blew my mind from this
43:17
verse. Whereas when God is look, it
43:20
says in 13, for when God made a promise to Abraham, since he had
43:24
no one greater to swear by, he swore by himself because there
43:30
is no one greater than God. Now, if you, if you keep
43:34
reading, it says, you know, there's other people, you know,
43:36
we as humans, we swear by something greater than always.
43:39
We're gonna be like I, I swear. On my Yeah, I'm like you.
43:43
I swear I saw that on. This and that, yeah, because
43:45
there's always gonna be someone greater than to like to declare
43:48
a dispute or end of. Dispute.
43:50
Yeah, yes. But it seems like, no, it
43:52
doesn't seem it says. God, or on Himself, on himself,
43:56
because there's no one greater. There's no one greater than him.
43:59
He is all. That he is, yeah.
44:00
That is. That is a great point you did.
44:02
Mention that. That's interesting.
44:04
That is amazing. So that already should tell you
44:08
a being. If you want to consider it.
44:10
Someone who says I am right? Who was there?
44:14
Before. The beginning before the end.
44:17
Absolutely. He's swearing on himself because
44:19
there's no one greater than him. Yeah, absolutely.
44:22
Absolutely. There.
44:25
So we're so we're expressing the sovereignty of God, but equally
44:30
we can also show you some scriptural verses of the human
44:34
experience, right? Like when we go on what what we?
44:37
Do by just, you know, doing. What we want and the decisions
44:40
that we're given, right? Absolutely.
44:42
There's just a couple like John 316 says that further.
44:45
So God loved the world this way. He gave the one and only Son so
44:48
that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have
44:52
eternal life. Right.
44:53
It's not all here, but if you keep reading it, whoever doesn't
44:55
believe it's condemned already. Absolutely.
44:57
So you see this conditional thing?
44:58
Yeah. Absolutely.
44:59
Absolutely. What is?
45:01
Established. What is established?
45:03
We see it right there. We have First Timothy 24.
45:06
This is good and police has got our Savior who wants everyone to
45:11
be saved and to come to the knowledge.
45:13
So he wants right? Many are cold, but few are
45:16
chosen OK. Absolutely. 2 Peter 39 says the
45:19
Lord does not. Delay His promise, as some
45:22
understand. Delay, but He but is patient
45:26
with you, not wanting any to perish, but all to come to
45:30
repentance. Amen.
45:31
Why does He speak that way? Because many are cold but few or
45:36
chosen and. We can go on.
45:38
There's so many, right? Right.
45:39
There's. So many let's how about this one
45:42
second Timothy 19 He has saved us and called us a holy calling,
45:46
not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and
45:48
grace which has given to us as Christ Jesus.
45:51
Time began before time began, right, Right.
45:55
So in the end, there are two paths.
45:57
That's it. There are two paths.
46:00
Either you're going to be a child of wrath or a child of
46:02
righteousness. They're going to go to heaven
46:05
and don't and don't get this twisted like.
46:07
Fallen angels are are in it. Absolutely.
46:10
Yeah. Yeah, they totally are.
46:11
In it, demons are involved. Yep, they're.
46:14
Also going to witness his wrath. Yep, absolutely.
46:20
So the the take away on this is if you're.
46:25
A believer moving. On forward, onward, however you
46:29
want to see it, the deeper you want to go.
46:34
If your desire is to go deeper, don't align it to your
46:38
ambitions. And when I mean by.
46:41
Aligning it to your ambitions. Don't let your ambition dictate
46:45
what you want to do for God. Amen you.
46:49
Couldn't have said it anywhere. Anyway, better absolutely don't
46:52
let your ambitions dictate what you want to do for God.
46:54
No, surrender that and, and and. Let God present to you what He
46:59
wants you to do for His Kingdom. That's why he says to you know,
47:03
do not, do not conform to this age and be transformed by the
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renewing of mind. So you may know the perfect will
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of God, so there is a knowing of His.
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Perfect. Will there's a knowing it.
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And so the take away here is the deeper you go, understand that
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you have to make the the hardest choice, and that is to to fully
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surrender. And I can, I can confidently say
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this, all the believers around the world, there's there is
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believers out there who really give up everything, everything,
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Amen. But there's also a majority of
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believers who they think they've surrendered, but they've allowed
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their ambitions to dictate what they want to do for God, Amen.
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Right. It's true.
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And. And.
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The take away is understand what free will means to you versus
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what it means for God. And that's pretty much it for
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for for this first episode, absolutely for those.
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That are listening subscribe and please share we're going to be
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recording now yeah absolutely we're going to we're.
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On schedule now, yes. So if anybody wants to comment
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or share anything or any insight, go for it.
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Yeah, we greatly appreciate share with other believers or
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non believers. We you know, we're not here
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because we want to do this the honestly.
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And one might think, well, aren't they doing the podcast?
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Everybody's doing one. I have absolutely no desire to
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be doing this. No, I I got to be honest.
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Me neither, but. Even even today, like, you know,
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it's funny how we're going through the same thing
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simultaneously. I was like ah bro, I don't.
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I don't think it's. Look inside.
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I was like, I don't think it's a good idea to record, but then at
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the end of the day, that could just be my flesh.
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He's like I said, like you said, and then he could be.
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Setting us up and we're also letting the fleshes, you know,
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be like, you know what? We're not.
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We don't want to do it. Right, like this is annoying.
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Exactly. But we've been putting it on for
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too long, like, you know, just delaying it and we're back and
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that's pretty much it, you know? So thank you, guys.
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We're going to close it up with a prayer.
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And do you want to say anything else?
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Do you have anything that anybody should be looking
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forward to? No, I'd just be looking.
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I'm just looking. Forward to whatever's going to
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happen last season that we did I thought it was great absolutely
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we had what like 3 people baptized yes yes you know they.
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Were like telling us. Well, glory to God, this is this
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has nothing to do with us because like you said, if you're
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up to us, I would not be doing this right, Right.
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But I'm literally doing this because I know that this is
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God's will. And I don't know what this is
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going to amount to. I don't know how many people are
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going to listen, but I'm not here to like try to become
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famous or anything. No, it's just you never know
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who's going to run into this. Exactly.
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So even if it's just a few souls, I'm totally cool with
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that. Hey man, but just keep
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listening. We're going to keep posting.
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We're back on schedule like you said and and stay strong.
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For those I really. Really want to go deep with God,
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Stay strong, Yeah, I and, and just keep your eyes on God, man.
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Yeah, keep your eyes on the Kingdom of Heaven.
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Yes. All right.
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We'll pray it off. Thank you, Father, for this
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opportunity. Great opportunity, amazing
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opportunity. And as we share what you reveal
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to us, although perhaps it has been spoken about everywhere,
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but you revealed it to us in a much deeper way and what it
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really means in regards to your Servant David and your Servant
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Jeremiah, Isaiah, and all these cloud of witnesses that we have
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letting us know that that that it is possible.
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And we thank you once again for your spirit being here and, and
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bringing peace and clarity as as it were in the beginning.
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It wasn't such. It wasn't some SO.
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Much of an instinct, but. Then it became natural once
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again to be doing your will, your perfect will.
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We hope that you keep blessing those who are listening and
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those who are not listening. Bless our brothers and sisters,
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Protect them. Guide them to the absolute
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truth, always to the sound doctrine.
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And until the next time, guys.