Latest / Chef's PSA Podcast / Kitchen Street Cred Ep. 71
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- 0:00Hello chefs, This is Chefs PSA Podcast.
- 0:02I'm your host Andrea Natera. On today's episode, we're gonna
- 0:04talk about social currency in the kitchen.
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- 0:56quick update, Last week I did the Q&A that I do on my
- 0:59Instagram every Sunday, cigar Sunday Q&A, shout out to Escobar
- 1:03cigars. And this week, well, this past
- 1:06week I should say I had to type the answers because I couldn't
- 1:09smoke my cigar because it was very cold outside.
- 1:11So I I'm starting to have to rethink this a little bit as we
- 1:14go into winter and it starts to get cold, but there's going to
- 1:17be a lot of weather anomalies that don't make it ideal cigar
- 1:20weather. So sometimes when it's too cold,
- 1:23it might be just Q&A Sunday with no cigar.
- 1:26Anyway, you know, early on I used to do the Q&A directly to
- 1:29the podcast. There's, I want to say there's
- 1:31four total episodes. Like I answer your most pondered
- 1:34questions, part one and two, and then I think there was a fall
- 1:38episode where I answer your questions as well.
- 1:40Anyway, you can go back and listen to those.
- 1:42The good thing about those Q&A S when I do them on the podcast is
- 1:45I can answer them in a longer format where when I do them on
- 1:48Instagram, it's very short. I think Instagram gives you like
- 1:5130 seconds to a minute to answer them and sometimes they're deep
- 1:54questions. I could some of them I could do
- 1:55a whole podcast on, but the clock is ticking and I got to
- 1:58get my most witty answer out while smoking a cigar, looking
- 2:02at the clock and drinking that old fashioned.
- 2:05So sometimes my answers are a bit brief and also some of the
- 2:09questions are a bit vague. Anyway, if you want me to go
- 2:11back to doing a long format Q&A session on the podcast, let me
- 2:15know. I do get a lot of questions
- 2:17regarding having guests on the podcast and honestly right now
- 2:22that's not something that I intend on doing.
- 2:24You listen to this podcast since episode one to now episode 71.
- 2:29You'll note that I've had exactly 0 guests on the podcast
- 2:33and if I ever do venture out to a guest centric podcast, I'd
- 2:37love to do chef smoking cigars talking crap podcast.
- 2:41But I need a cigar lounge for that.
- 2:44So if someone wants to invest in getting me a cigar lounge, we
- 2:48could do chef smoking cigars podcast.
- 2:49Anyway, if you want to support the show, go to chefspsa.com, go
- 2:53get the books Culinary Leadership Fundamentals, which
- 2:55honestly is probably the most important book for all chefs.
- 2:58Then Kitchen Art of War is, you know, advanced strategy for
- 3:01chefs. Bad sue good chef is for the new
- 3:05sous chefs. And you know, maybe sometimes
- 3:07when you have all these questions that are going through
- 3:08your mind and you don't know who to ask, that's the book that you
- 3:11want. I based that off a lot of the
- 3:13Q&A questions that I get and also questions that I would have
- 3:17when I was a sous chef or that my sous chefs used to ask me.
- 3:20Line cook survival manual, which I think is the book that line
- 3:23cooks and new cooks need, as well as how not to be the
- 3:26biggest idiot in the kitchen, which not everyone needs that
- 3:29It's more of a joke book. There's some practical advice in
- 3:32there too, but it's a lot of jokes.
- 3:33Now the topic at hand, Social currency in the kitchen. 1st, we
- 3:38should probably explain what social currency is.
- 3:40Social currency is like money. Money is currency.
- 3:44Social currency is your value that you bring to social
- 3:48settings, The kitchen being the social setting that we're
- 3:50discussing right now. Someone asked me the other day
- 3:52if I could explain what it's like for new cooks to navigate
- 3:55in the kitchen now. There's a lot that they don't
- 3:57tell you on culinary school, and there's a lot that you figure
- 3:59out once you get into the kitchen.
- 4:01And I think the transition for some people can be shocking,
- 4:04especially if you're coming right out of high school and
- 4:06going into culinary school, or if you're skipping culinary
- 4:09school and going straight from high school into a restaurant
- 4:13job. And what you quickly find out is
- 4:15no matter what your social status was in high school or if
- 4:19you're a career changer in the previous job, it is completely
- 4:22null and void when you step into a kitchen.
- 4:25Now, I don't want people to misconstrue what I'm saying.
- 4:26I think there should be a baseline of respect in all
- 4:29kitchens. Everyone should be treated with
- 4:31dignity and respect. I think kindness goes a long
- 4:33way. I think chefs need to do a
- 4:36better job at respecting people up and down the hierarchy and
- 4:39not not. And when I say chefs, I'm, you
- 4:41know, I'm, I'm painting a picture that all chefs don't do
- 4:45that, but a lot of chefs do. I'm just saying in general, the
- 4:48stigma that the industry has is that chefs are egotistical and
- 4:51tyrannical. That's not the case with
- 4:52everything. As I've said before, there's
- 4:54good people and there's bad people, and some of those good
- 4:56people and bad people happen to become chefs.
- 4:59It doesn't mean that chefs attract bad people.
- 5:01It's just there's just kind of a mix of people out there in the
- 5:04world. So I want to establish that
- 5:06first and foremost there should be a a baseline of respect
- 5:09throughout all kitchens. But when we're talking about
- 5:11social currency and you're new to the industry, you might
- 5:14quickly discover that the social currency that you had in your
- 5:17previous industry, school, college, whatever the case may
- 5:20be, is null and void when you step into the kitchen.
- 5:22And why is that? Because the only thing that
- 5:24really matters when you're in the kitchen is can you cook and
- 5:27how do you work the line? And are you responsible and do
- 5:29you show up when I need you? Do you help out the team?
- 5:31Do you clean? Do you work efficiently?
- 5:33Do you cause me problems? Social currency in the kitchen
- 5:36is how you work with others. The better you are in the
- 5:40kitchen, the more social currency you have.
- 5:43This is what gets people promoted.
- 5:45When you're building a team, Someone that has a high social
- 5:48currency meaning their high culinary ability, their ability
- 5:51to work, that's someone that you call when you're a chef and
- 5:55you're looking for someone if you know them, if you work with
- 5:57them in the past. But a lot of new cooks sometimes
- 6:00have a hard time adjusting to that, because in high school or
- 6:04college or whatever the case may be, maybe you're coming from a
- 6:06different industry. The social currency might be the
- 6:10kind of car you drive, what neighborhood you came from, what
- 6:14city you're from, how much money your parents have, who your
- 6:17boyfriend is, who your girlfriend is, who your
- 6:19significant other is, who your circle of friends are.
- 6:22None of that matters in the kitchen because none of that can
- 6:25help you when the line is busy. When the line is busy, it
- 6:28doesn't matter what kind of car you drive and the person who's
- 6:32in need of your help and needs you to perform could care less
- 6:35what kind of car you drive. When the shit hits the fan, you
- 6:38have to think about that like you're weeded, 1000 tickets, the
- 6:40person next to you is going down and then you're like, boy, I
- 6:44wish you had a better car and maybe we wouldn't be weeded.
- 6:46No one, no one says that social currency is ability.
- 6:50Now I'm recording this on Halloween 2023 and I have a
- 6:55slang word that I use and I call it a Halloween ninja.
- 6:58These are things that I throw around in the kitchen.
- 7:00It's in the culinary dictionary by the way.
- 7:01You can get at chefs psa.com. It is free, but the term
- 7:04Halloween ninja means this. A Halloween ninja is someone in
- 7:08the kitchen who looks the part but is just plain dress up much
- 7:12like a little kid on Halloween. They dress up like a ninja.
- 7:16They got the uniform. They got the plastic sword.
- 7:20They got the fake throwing stars.
- 7:21But they're a little kid. They're not real ninjas.
- 7:24And it's a plastic sword and there's no threat.
- 7:26Well, the same thing happens in kitchens.
- 7:28We have Halloween ninjas, the type that look the part.
- 7:30They get the most expensive apron, most expensive knives
- 7:33that they don't know how to use. They could talk the talk, but
- 7:36they cannot walk the walk. And the walk is much more
- 7:39important than the talk in the kitchen.
- 7:42Doesn't matter how many culinary terms you know.
- 7:44Get the culinary dictionary. What matters more is can you
- 7:47execute on those terms? I could care less if you have a
- 7:49large vocabulary. If you can't make any of it, I'd
- 7:52prefer the person that has zero culinary vocabulary but can
- 7:56execute everything in the dictionary.
- 7:57So it matters not what you look like what you're wearing, it
- 8:01matters how you perform. Now, I'll be the first one to
- 8:03say I'm a sucker for a nice apron.
- 8:05I like the bragard blue aprons. I like fancy, expensive Japanese
- 8:09knives. But I wouldn't advise someone
- 8:11who's new in the industry to come in to a new kitchen and
- 8:15think that just because you have expensive knives and fancy
- 8:17aprons that that is going to give you social currency.
- 8:20It's not what's going to give you that social credit is your
- 8:23ability to perform on the line. How fast you work, how precise
- 8:27are your knife cuts? Do you know how to braise
- 8:31properly? Can you make stocks and sauces?
- 8:33Do you show up on time? That's your social currency.
- 8:35And in a lot of kitchens, there's always that one person
- 8:38that is higher level than everyone else.
- 8:40You know, they're they're just, they're just more swan.
- 8:42Yeah. They have more finesse on what
- 8:43they're doing. And everyone always looks up to
- 8:45that person. And they want to be like them.
- 8:47Like, I call that kitchen karate.
- 8:48You know, the way that they move in the kitchen with precision
- 8:51and they turn around and they have a pallet knife that just
- 8:54puts the foie grat or shot on the plate, or they base the
- 8:56scallops just perfectly. They don't tremble.
- 8:59Their movements all seem calculated.
- 9:01They're going to put a pan down and it goes directly on the
- 9:03trivet without having to think. They don't even, they don't even
- 9:06have to look. They just know where it goes.
- 9:08I call that kitchen karate. Some people call it the dance,
- 9:11but it's like you want your black belt in kitchen, karate.
- 9:14To be precise, having a black belt in kitchen karate is high
- 9:17level social currency. So now let's talk if you have
- 9:20zero skills, let's say you are new to the kitchen, you're just
- 9:23out of culinary school or it's your first job and everyone in
- 9:27the kitchen is good and there are levels above you.
- 9:30As I like to say, they speak three languages and you barely
- 9:32speak one. What can you do to build that
- 9:35social currency in the kitchen? Well, if you're lacking in the
- 9:38culinary skills, there's other things that you could do that
- 9:40would help you stand out in a positive way.
- 9:42The first thing is to be respectful in the kitchen.
- 9:44Be respectful to everybody. Let's start there.
- 9:47Then I would say work at the same pace as everyone else in
- 9:50the kitchen. There's a certain cadence that
- 9:51every kitchen has. If everyone's hustling, you
- 9:53hustle. If everyone's moving to a
- 9:54certain beat, you move to that same beat.
- 9:57It doesn't mean that you have to know the recipes, but you just
- 9:59got to pay attention, use your eyes, and see how quickly people
- 10:01are moving. You might not know the recipes,
- 10:03but you can have sense of urgency in your movements.
- 10:06The next thing I will say is work.
- 10:08Clean cleanliness is appreciated in every single kitchen that I
- 10:12know. There's not a chef out there
- 10:13that I know that doesn't like clean cooks.
- 10:15Everyone likes clean cook. No one ever is going to tell
- 10:17you, hey, you need to work dirtier.
- 10:19It's the exact opposite. Then it's being responsible.
- 10:22That means showing up on time, being where you're supposed to
- 10:25be when you're supposed to be there.
- 10:26Responsible also means having a notebook and taking good notes
- 10:30when you're given directions. If they're giving you a recipe,
- 10:33write it down. The worst pen is better than the
- 10:36best. Memory is the expression, and
- 10:38it's just an expression. I don't want someone freaking
- 10:40out and saying the worst pen doesn't work.
- 10:42It's broken, OK, it's it's an expression.
- 10:44Anyway, we digress. For the person that was going to
- 10:46call me out on that expression, there you go.
- 10:48You're right. But the lesson is write it down.
- 10:51No chef likes to give you directions and then you come
- 10:55back every 5 minutes and say what's next?
- 10:57Chef, I forgot. Write it down.
- 10:59It's one of the most important tools that you could have is a
- 11:01pen and a notebook. The other thing is ask
- 11:04questions, but know when to be quiet.
- 11:06And this is a balancing act. You don't want to be the cook
- 11:07that has 1000 questions at the wrong time, meaning there's a
- 11:10rail of tickets. Everyone's head down, go, go go.
- 11:13And you're trying to find out what's the recipe for this.
- 11:15Can you tell me how to do that? And you want to have a
- 11:18conversation with these cooks. It's like social awareness.
- 11:20You see everyone's head down, quiet.
- 11:22You also be quiet, put your head down and start working.
- 11:25But when the time is right, ask questions and write down the
- 11:27answers and try to avoid asking the same questions twice unless
- 11:30you need someone to expand on it.
- 11:32And the reason I bring that up is because when you ask the same
- 11:34question over and over again, people will get tired of telling
- 11:37you because they think you're not paying attention.
- 11:38The next is don't be afraid of the hard work.
- 11:40The hard work is going to come in every kitchen that you go to.
- 11:43There, there's hard work in terms of you're on your feet all
- 11:46day, it's stressful. Or there's also hard work in
- 11:49terms of someone has to clean the cooler or the freezer or
- 11:52someone has to work the grill station.
- 11:54If you're new in the kitchen, you might not be prepared to
- 11:56work the harder stations, but you are prepared to organize a
- 11:59cooler. And again, if you're trying to
- 12:01get social currency and social credit in the kitchen, the
- 12:05person who cleans the cooler is beloved in everyone's eyes.
- 12:09And then the last thing I'll say is, and only if you're working
- 12:12in the type of place that serves a family meal, be the person
- 12:15that brings the cooks and the team water that goes a long way.
- 12:19I think that's very underrated. Everyone's hot, they just got
- 12:22slammed. They're thirsty, they're on
- 12:24their feet all day. It's a kitchen and here you come
- 12:27with waters for all the cooks. That goes a long way.
- 12:29Social credit, right? Some people call it the
- 12:32emotional bank account. You're depositing money in, the
- 12:35emotional bank account with others, and then of course,
- 12:38family meal cook for people. I think what's interesting about
- 12:40family meal in a lot of places is it doesn't necessarily have
- 12:43to be like super high end food. A lot of times, family meal is
- 12:46they just want something comforting.
- 12:47And depending on where you're from, you might want to make
- 12:51something from your home, something that you grew up
- 12:53eating, something from your town, a regional dish.
- 12:55This goes a long way 'cause you know what it is, It's
- 12:57nourishing, it's comforting, and people could taste when food is
- 13:00cooked with love, as they say. So if you don't have the
- 13:03culinary skills, those are some things that you could do to
- 13:06start to get the social credit in your kitchen.
- 13:08But with all that being said, the fastest way to get social
- 13:11credit in the kitchen is to be good.
- 13:13Be fucking good on the line, be good with a knife.
- 13:16The person who knows how to cook walks on water a lot of times,
- 13:19assuming that they're not a big jerk now in the chef community.
- 13:22This is something else that I think people think about it.
- 13:25I've touched on this. A lot of people talk about the
- 13:27operation, and in the operation, the social credit might not be
- 13:31where you're at the way that you cook because maybe you work in a
- 13:34place that's very management driven, maybe where you're at.
- 13:37It's all about the paperwork and making sure the food cost is in
- 13:39line and turning an inventory and answering emails and showing
- 13:43up to meetings. And so where you're at, the
- 13:45social currency with other departments and other people
- 13:49that work with you is managerial and administrative.
- 13:52It's important that you recognize that.
- 13:54But it's also important to recognize that in the culinary
- 13:57community, you can't be standing around a group of chefs and
- 14:02think that you're going to be invited to the food and the
- 14:04winemaker dinners and the private Chef Illuminati meetings
- 14:08because you run a good food cost and you answer your emails.
- 14:11That's where your social currency comes in as you need to
- 14:13be a good cook because outside of your four walls, they might
- 14:16not give a shit what your food cost is.
- 14:18As I often say, no one remembers the person who answered all
- 14:22their emails and ran a great food cost.
- 14:25Reputation is made with the food that you create, the people that
- 14:29you help mentor, how you impact how people eat, and how you
- 14:33impact food systems in your community.
- 14:35That's where the legacy is. So anyway, start developing your
- 14:38social currency in your own kitchen and you'll see how many
- 14:41more doors open for you. For the person that's
- 14:44questioning why they haven't been promoted or why you keep
- 14:47getting passed over. Ask yourself that question.
- 14:50Are you doing those things that we talked about and still
- 14:52getting passed over? Now?
- 14:53If you are, then you probably need to leave, but chances are
- 14:57you're not doing everything that you can do to get promoted.
- 14:59So anyway, if you want to support the show, you know what
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