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10-16 H4: MMQB Con't & Raise A Pint · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: All right, 9 o'clock hour, hour number two of Monday
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  Speaker 1: Morning Quarterback, hour number four of the show. In the
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  Speaker 1: final hour of the week, it's Chuck Anderson.
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  Speaker 2: Chris with you.
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  Speaker 1: It's Chuck in the morning. Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM. And,
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  Speaker 1: of course, the primary focus here today, Seahawks lose, falling
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  Speaker 1: to 3-3 on the young season to the Denver Broncos
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  Speaker 1: last night, Thursday night football, 17-17. 14 in overtime, the final.
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  Speaker 1: We spent the entire first hour of our Monday morning
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  Speaker 1: quarterback session, just in case you're just joining us, talking about,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Sam Darnold was, what, 90% of it? Drew Locke,
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  Speaker 1: that question, a little bit more on the offensive line,
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  Speaker 1: running backs, and what have you. So we've already kind
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  Speaker 1: of covered that angle. We haven't talked at all about
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  Speaker 1: the superlative that was the defensive performance last night, and
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  Speaker 1: also the the national conversation going on about Bo Nix.
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  Speaker 1: And so I want to dive into that with our QB1.
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  Speaker 1: Hugh Millen with us here as we start the nine
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  Speaker 1: o'clock hour. And my goodness, Hugh, I mean, last night
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  Speaker 1: might have taken the cake in terms of just, I
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  Speaker 1: actually wrote down at one point, Hugh, I'm like, that
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  Speaker 1: was crappy defense. Only I didn't write crappy defense. You know,
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  Speaker 1: that drive, they had six first downs and they weren't
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  Speaker 1: doing anything special. And I'm like, what was that? So
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  Speaker 1: I actually wrote that down. And then they had the
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  Speaker 1: penalties that cost you the second Denver Broncos touchdown drive
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  Speaker 1: to make it 14 to three. But after that, they
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  Speaker 1: had 168 total yards for the game. 44 of them
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  Speaker 1: after the 515 mark of the second quarter. That was
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  Speaker 1: an overtime game. they allowed 44 total yards to another
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  Speaker 1: NFL team over the span of three quarters and somehow
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  Speaker 1: lost the game. Talk about the defense last year. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And think about the guy who was calling the plays,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Sean Payton regarded to be one of the
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  Speaker 2: best offensive minds of a, of a generation.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: But, but now they went three and out, uh, did
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawk defense to start the game. Remember Julian love
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  Speaker 2: had the, the batted ball down in the third down
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  Speaker 2: in the flat, which may have been an interception.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Um, but, That first touchdown drive, there was a screen
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  Speaker 2: for 16 yards. I don't think that they recognized the
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  Speaker 2: screen well. They didn't chase it from behind. And then
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  Speaker 2: also 12 yards. So they gave up 28 yards of screens,
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  Speaker 2: and those were well-designed. I think maybe to a certain degree,
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  Speaker 2: Sean Payton shot his wad a little bit on his
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  Speaker 2: best plays. There was a play where Byron Murphy was
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  Speaker 2: standing up, Uh, and he got rooted out of there. That, that,
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  Speaker 2: that is not, he was literally in a two point
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  Speaker 2: stance when they snapped the ball that, that, that's uncharacteristic. Um, they,
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  Speaker 2: the Seattle, I'm just talking about this first drive, they
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  Speaker 2: were getting deep. Um, so the checkdowns were getting a
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  Speaker 2: fair amount of yardage. So they were protecting the big play,
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  Speaker 2: but they weren't, you know, almost, almost to, uh, to
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  Speaker 2: an extent, like, uh, almost of a prevent, right. They
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  Speaker 2: got in a shallow cross and, on a third down and,
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  Speaker 2: and Job got beat in man to man. They've only been,
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  Speaker 2: they've been man to man under 10%. Uh, they went
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  Speaker 2: man there and they got beat. Um, and then they
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  Speaker 2: were soft on the goal line on a power play.
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  Speaker 2: He had Nuoso and, and, uh, DeMarcus Lawrence, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Nuoso's got a, he's got to close that. Uh, and,
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  Speaker 2: and then you got to anchor with DeMarcus Lawrence and
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  Speaker 2: then the linebackers got a scrape. So they played the
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  Speaker 2: power play, um, poorly. Uh, you, you mentioned the, uh, the,
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  Speaker 2: the two face, the, the, the pass interference and the,
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  Speaker 2: and the face mask on the second drive didn't play
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  Speaker 2: the power real well on that one either. Tyrese Knight
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  Speaker 2: didn't step up in there. And, and so then, okay, what,
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  Speaker 2: what were some of the adjustments that I saw? Well,
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  Speaker 2: first of all, the next drive, you see them doing
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  Speaker 2: more two gapping, particularly with Jaron Reed and Byron Murphy,
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  Speaker 2: instead of trying to get into their one and a
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  Speaker 2: half gap, they, they did true two gapping and, and
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  Speaker 2: they were, uh, you know, Tyrus Knight was firing his
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  Speaker 2: gun a little bit more in, in terms of, of
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  Speaker 2: what he saw and it, you know, instead of lay back,
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  Speaker 2: just go, uh, that was pivotal. They, they did more
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  Speaker 2: match matching zones underneath where instead of spot dropping and
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  Speaker 2: allowing those checkdowns, they played coverages where, where you're the, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you're playing man to man with the inner three out
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  Speaker 2: of five eligible receivers. So you're matching, uh, they did
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  Speaker 2: some stunts with the, uh, Inside stunts, those were effective
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  Speaker 2: between Big Cat, Leonard Williams, and with Byron Murphy, they
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  Speaker 2: ran a TT stunt. They went to their dime where
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  Speaker 2: they had Witherspoon to the field and Eamon Worry to
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  Speaker 2: the boundary. That's a beast. They put Big Cat out
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  Speaker 2: at defensive end. And then they did a bracket coverage.
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  Speaker 2: They don't play this often. They did a cover seven,
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  Speaker 2: which is cover one, man to man everywhere else. But
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  Speaker 2: where they had been beat by Cortland Sutton before, they said, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to play man everywhere else. And we're going
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  Speaker 2: to double in and out on Cortland Sutton. And then
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  Speaker 2: I'll close. These are just some of the adjustments. They had,
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  Speaker 2: even when Worry had a really good game. you know,
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  Speaker 2: just kind of the best game of any Seahawk last night.
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  Speaker 2: That was, that's a quote. I wouldn't dispute that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, even worry just, you know, and they use
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  Speaker 2: them as a spy as I think Herb street did
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  Speaker 2: a very good job of accurately depicting that just kind
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  Speaker 2: of waiting, waiting. And then, and then his acceleration and
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  Speaker 2: his length is so pivotal that, that, that you can't
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  Speaker 2: evade him. Uh, now, Oh, by the way, he had,
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  Speaker 2: he had been in the, uh, Oh, the second drive touchdown.
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  Speaker 2: He had a missed tackle right at the point of attack.
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  Speaker 2: right in the middle of the field, and then his
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  Speaker 2: missed tackle led to about a 12-yard run after his
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  Speaker 2: missed tackle. After that, he was extremely pivotal, and they
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  Speaker 2: used him in a way that I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: say never because then you show me one play that
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  Speaker 2: they've done it before, and then now I'm a liar.
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  Speaker 2: But there's a defense called Tampa 2, which is five
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  Speaker 2: under zone with two guys deep, and then the distinction
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  Speaker 2: with the Tampa part is the middle linebacker gets depth
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  Speaker 2: down the middle and they were having even worry as
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  Speaker 2: the Tampa too. And, and let me tell you, that
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  Speaker 2: would be, that would just be a no fly zone for,
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  Speaker 2: for any quarterback trying to get any benders or anything
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  Speaker 2: down the middle. I'm, I am not messing with that
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  Speaker 2: freaking lunatic all over the place. No, thank you. And, and, and,
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  Speaker 2: And then you say, okay, in that defense, the adjacent, um, zones, um,
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  Speaker 2: because now instead of five under you've gone four under,
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  Speaker 2: they had Job, uh, playing the hook zone. And I'm like, what?
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  Speaker 2: And I looked from last year. Um, he, he did
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  Speaker 2: that 0.8% of snaps.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So, and, and, and so, uh, To have him, basically,
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  Speaker 2: that would be like saying, all right, it would be
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  Speaker 2: like saying we're going to take a left fielder or
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  Speaker 2: a right fielder, and we're going to have them play
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  Speaker 2: shortstop and second base. No, I'm serious. I'm being more
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  Speaker 2: literal than I sound. That sounds like an abstract comparison.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 2: In terms of I'm comparing corner outfielders to cornerbacks, and
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  Speaker 2: then when you talk about the hook zone defense, there's
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  Speaker 2: shallow defense in the middle, just like a second baseman
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  Speaker 2: and a shortstop. He was playing second base. And even more,
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  Speaker 2: he was playing the whole player in the Tampa 2.
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  Speaker 2: And so I know they didn't prepare for that. And so, yeah, Chuck,
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  Speaker 2: I think you have been nailing this for going back
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  Speaker 2: to at least a year. You've been nailing this. You
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  Speaker 2: just say you better get on Mike McDonald because his
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  Speaker 2: ability to recognize what you're trying to do and make
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  Speaker 2: adjustments and, and, and then, uh, you know, just put
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  Speaker 2: the squeeze on you is just, it's legendary. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I know he's, he hasn't been around long enough to
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  Speaker 2: be legendary, but, but in this time span, uh, he's, he's,
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  Speaker 2: he's begun creating a legend for himself and, and it
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  Speaker 2: was on display. And, and, uh, I mean, he just
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  Speaker 2: took Sean Payton out to the woodshed schematically.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's beautiful. It's absolutely beautiful football.
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  Speaker 1: He should have been able to stand over him again
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  Speaker 1: at the 50-yard line. He wasn't able to do it.
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  Speaker 2: No, you've nailed it, man. You've nailed it. This guy
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  Speaker 2: can give him a couple drives, and then he will
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  Speaker 2: button things up, man. He is a fireman. He's a fireman.
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  Speaker 2: If there's even smoke, that guy, he's got the hose
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  Speaker 2: to put things out. That's fun.
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  Speaker 1: Hugh Millen is with us, Monday Morning Quarterback. I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on the Bo Nix performance. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if you heard this from Ryan Fitzpatrick on
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  Speaker 1: the postgame. last night but he went absolutely off on
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  Speaker 1: Bo Nix let's take a listen.
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  Speaker 3: To it I'm glad they scored the two touchdowns in
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  Speaker 3: the first half but they were in four minute mode
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  Speaker 3: when the second half started it was really frustrating to
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  Speaker 3: watch and part of it for me is Bo Nix
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  Speaker 3: is not playing competitively it's almost disrespectful to the quarterback
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  Speaker 3: position how he's playing football what do you mean how
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  Speaker 3: is he playing First of all, the guy doesn't want
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  Speaker 3: to throw the ball.
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  Speaker 1: That's fine.
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  Speaker 2: He's throwing to the flats.
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  Speaker 1: He's throwing behind, but he has no trust from his coach.
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  Speaker 1: He calls a screenplay on third and eight. Just run up.
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  Speaker 2: Let the clock keep going. What does he do? He
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  Speaker 2: throws it away.
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  Speaker 5: Seattle gets it.
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  Speaker 3: The ball.
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  Speaker 1: They have a timeout. And then in overtime, he's got
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  Speaker 1: two chances to be competitive.
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  Speaker 3: The last one being a designed run for him to run.
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  Speaker 1: Make somebody missing, get a first down for your football team.
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  Speaker 1: Now they're in the locker room right now.
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  Speaker 5: They're excited.
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  Speaker 4: They won.
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  Speaker 5: He's not playing.
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  Speaker 2: Competitive football right now. All right.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. Best buy strong, as I've heard national analysts go
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  Speaker 1: after a player that just played. A winning quarterback. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: from a quarterback. What was your reaction? How accurate was
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  Speaker 1: that from Ryan Fitzpatrick?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think that it's kind of like your bother meter.
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  Speaker 2: If you ever have that issue with your spouse or
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  Speaker 2: your significant other, you say, yeah, you're– You're right to
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  Speaker 2: be upset about that.
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  Speaker 1: I have a perfect relationship with him.
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  Speaker 2: You have a perfect relationship. You've never experienced where somebody says, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you're kind of right, but why is your bother meter
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  Speaker 2: at an eight when it should be at a two?
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  Speaker 5: That's so true.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you should be bothered, but I think you're overreacting.
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  Speaker 2: I think that in that case, there is some evidence
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  Speaker 2: to that where he said, okay, he was playing too cautiously.
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  Speaker 2: And we talked about this yesterday, just coincidentally, that Nix
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  Speaker 2: had admitted that he's having a hard time striking that
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  Speaker 2: balance between aggression. And I'm sure that he was looking
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  Speaker 2: at his defense playing just as well as Sam Darnold
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  Speaker 2: was looking at his defense. And so, yeah, I think
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  Speaker 2: in this case, Fitz overreacted. in my opinion. There might
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  Speaker 2: be room for some criticism, but not to that degree.
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  Speaker 1: How much was it Nick's not playing well, and how
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  Speaker 1: much of it was Mike took everything away from him?
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  Speaker 2: Well, there's often a chance that if you read the
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  Speaker 2: defense and you have extraordinary timing, that's your best chance
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  Speaker 2: to get the completion. But you've got to be convicted,
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  Speaker 2: and you've got to see the movie before it happens,
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  Speaker 2: and it's hard. And so, yeah, there were some chances
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  Speaker 2: for some completion. The way Seattle disguises their coverage, what
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  Speaker 2: McDonald is saying is, I'll be momentarily out of position
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  Speaker 2: to move guys to fool the quarterback. And and yet
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  Speaker 2: if if you're if you're right on it and you
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  Speaker 2: sniff it out, you can you know, you can get
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  Speaker 2: a completion often or, you know, with some regularity. And
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  Speaker 2: so I think that I think that he was processing
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  Speaker 2: a little bit slow and there were some chances to
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  Speaker 2: get those completions. And and, you know, just a little late,
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  Speaker 2: because by the time Seattle, after disguising, they got to
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  Speaker 2: the place that they want now. they can turn and
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  Speaker 2: they can be in, you know, square their hips to
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  Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage and they can be in a
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  Speaker 2: position to be much more cuts, cover much more ground.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: You know, later in the down and the time to
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  Speaker 2: get them as early, but you gotta, you gotta a
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  Speaker 2: process what they're doing, be convicted and, and, and, and
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  Speaker 2: have that timing with the receiver. You know, it's, it's,
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  Speaker 2: it's hard to have that type of a, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a cohesion offensively, If it was easy, everybody would be
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  Speaker 2: ripping apart Mike McDonald defenses.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right, right.
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  Speaker 2: We just saw an extreme example of it.
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  Speaker 1: If anything stood out to me with Nix, though, it's
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  Speaker 1: like he's always run hard. I don't think he ran
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  Speaker 1: hard last night. When he actually had opportunities, it did
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  Speaker 1: kind of feel like he folded a cheap lawn chair.
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  Speaker 1: rather than risk some sort of injury? I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: but he just didn't seem to... I mean, he ran
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  Speaker 1: with abandon at Oregon, and he ran consistently at Denver.
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  Speaker 1: That's what everybody points out. That's the weapon that he has. But, man,
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  Speaker 1: he just kind of folded in front of would-be tacklers
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  Speaker 1: last night.
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  Speaker 2: Well, as it turns out, in the NFL... the guys
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  Speaker 2: that are chasing you, they tend to be a little faster.
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  Speaker 2: They tend to be a little bit more agile. They
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  Speaker 2: tend to be consistent tacklers, and that would even hold
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  Speaker 2: more true for a Seahawk defender. If Mike McDonald put
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  Speaker 2: you on the field, he has an ability or a
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  Speaker 2: trust that you can make a play. So I think
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  Speaker 2: that would be another example where I would say to Fitz,
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  Speaker 2: I got to be careful too because Me as an analyst,
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  Speaker 2: how many times have I criticized somebody and somebody can say, oh, well, okay, Millen,
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  Speaker 2: what did you ever do? And I get that, and
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  Speaker 2: that's fine. But Fitz was calling Bo Nix out for
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  Speaker 2: a design run play where he didn't make somebody miss. Well,
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  Speaker 2: Bo Nix was trying his hardest. Like he was not–
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  Speaker 2: If you want to criticize that, oh, he doesn't have
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  Speaker 2: the athleticism to make that play, okay, fine. Well, that
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  Speaker 2: would then beg the question, why didn't Sean Payton anticipate that?
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  Speaker 2: And you could say Sean Payton lost that matchup on
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  Speaker 2: that play to Mike McDonnell.
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  Speaker 5: Bingo.
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  Speaker 2: Right? But then to say that Bo Nix wasn't competing
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  Speaker 2: on that play, Oh no, no, no. I can't, I
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  Speaker 2: can't bring myself to do that. He was trying, he
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  Speaker 2: tried as hard as he could to get that first down.
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  Speaker 2: He just wasn't capable with his, his skillset in the
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  Speaker 2: matchup in that moment on that play.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: But I would, I would not say he was not competing.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Let's put a, just like a tie a
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  Speaker 1: bow on the entire, you know, a game from last
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  Speaker 1: night conversation. Um, These are the things that are different.
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  Speaker 1: They're off to a 3-3 start. Obviously disappointing. There's been
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  Speaker 1: something wrong every single game that has left us scratching
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  Speaker 1: our heads. These are the things that are missing offensively
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  Speaker 1: from that team a year ago. No Walker. There's a
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  Speaker 1: new OC. No Anthony Bradford. And Sam looks like he's
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  Speaker 1: playing worse than he was a year ago. Hugh, if
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  Speaker 1: I get that list, and I'll have Anders answer it too,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think if you had to put those
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  Speaker 1: in pecking order of what's most responsible for why this
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  Speaker 1: team is not playing, their offense isn't living up to
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  Speaker 1: what the defense is giving them, how would you rank
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  Speaker 1: those four things?
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  Speaker 2: Probably Walker one, Flory two, Darnold three, Bradford four. That'd
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  Speaker 2: be my initial.
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  Speaker 1: Anders?
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  Speaker 5: I'd go Darnold one.
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  Speaker 1: Darnold one?
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  Speaker 3: Um.
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  Speaker 4: Probably Walker two, Flurry three, Bradford four.
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  Speaker 2: Poor Bradford.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know. I do think we miss him for sure. Well,
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  Speaker 5: he is missing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's the reason I put him on the list. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because he is missing from a year ago. So he's
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  Speaker 1: got darn well one. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I almost put Flurry one. You know, because
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  Speaker 2: I've got all this, you know, it's funny how radio works,
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  Speaker 2: but I've got all these notes with a minus and
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  Speaker 2: then a BF on top of it.
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  Speaker 5: Brian Fleury.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And, and, and because the minus is because of Brian Fleury,
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  Speaker 2: I think that the difference between Fleury and Kubiak as
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  Speaker 2: of right now is significant. And, uh, in, in, in,
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  Speaker 2: in its part, in part manifested, if you're the, the
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  Speaker 2: title is offensive coordinator. And when I see these issues
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  Speaker 2: with the, the pass blocking, um, That's a coordinator stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Not getting to Rashid Shaheed and seeing, hey, when it
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  Speaker 2: quarters on him, we've got a deep, deep curl. And
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: not being able to get him involved.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: A.J.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Barnum was– there had to have been a better way
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: to get him involved. So, yeah, I was tempted to
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: say Brian Flory.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: One.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: But Kenneth Walker, where we are in that, I've never
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: wavered in my opinion about him. Ten picks separate him
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: and Charbonnet. They're both second-rounders, and I've said that you
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: can find the podcast. Kenneth Walker runs like a first-rounder,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: and Charbonnet runs like a fifth-rounder. So I do not
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: think that it's going to be a panacea when Charbonnet
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: comes back. Now, he'll be better than what we have,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: so there'll be an improvement. but how is he a
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: year older and coming off of two torn knee ligaments?
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: How is he going to be better than he was? That, that,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: that seems irrational to even expect that. Um, you know, it,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: it would be a minor miracle fees as good, uh,
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: at least initially.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: And so, uh, but I sure would feel a lot
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: better five weeks from now, Charbonnet and price being in that.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Oh yes.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm down for that.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: I'm down for that. I mean, I mean, Price, I
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: feel like that's just a Christmas present. We've only opened
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: a corner of the little wrapper on him. I want
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: to see what his skill set could do, but I'm
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: concerned about his durability.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Haven't I?
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Yep. Where are you on that question?
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, geez. I think I would probably go your same list.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I think I'd go Walker, Fleury, Darnold. Bradford. And then
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Bradford's fourth. All right. We got one more segment here
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: with Hugh this morning, our Monday morning quarterback session. And
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: it is game night for the Huskies. So we'll spend
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: some time talking about the dogs with Hugh next. Sports
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Radio 93.3 KJR FM, which gives us one more segment
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: here with Hugh with Monday morning quarterback. I do want
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• 20:48
  Speaker 1: let's talk a little Huskies. It is game night after all.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Take it on, Purdue. They're well beyond must-win at this point.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: to save this season. Those birds have flown. So instead,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: let's talk about some of the comments made by Jed
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: earlier this week that didn't land very well with the
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: fan base. starting with the, well, I'll let you dictate.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: What bothered you more? Was it the quarterback comments or
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: the we need more money comments?
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Which quarterback comments?
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: The, well, just stating that you made the statement earlier
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: this week that DeMond Williams, you said that he would
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: use the injury as the reason to not start him
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: this week, and it looks like that's going to happen.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think that that, actually makes the most sense.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you allow them to get, gather
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: some data. I think that there's a, in an odd way,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: I kind of anticipate there'll be a jolt. The team
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: feels like that there was a better response when, when
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Eliza Brown was in the game as for the comments.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think jet fish is fond of excuses
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: and I, I think it's a bad look. I think it's,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: we never heard anything, you know, all through spring and
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: summer camp, we heard the, the, uh, analogy, a five-star
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: freshman is equivalent of a first round. So there was
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: this excitement about playing the young people. And then now
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: when you start the conference, Oh, and three, and you know,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know how you'd quantify worst Husky stadium losses. Um, uh,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: unfortunately I can remember a few, but, but, uh, I
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: don't know that Washington's ever been favored in a game
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: and then down 27 to nothing or worse in the
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: second quarter, in the first half. So it certainly is
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: one of the worst games. And so now you come
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: in on Monday and you say, well, we don't have
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: the money. The players, you're literally saying, I wish that
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: I had the money to replace you.
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: That is totally inconsistent with what he would be saying
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: to his team because no coach has ever or would
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: ever say that type of message. It would always be
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: some variation of we all we got, we all we need.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: And you can couch it in whatever phraseology you want.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: But what he told the media I think would have
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: been shocking to the players. And Absolutely having the potential
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: to be divisive. And so I think that having a
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: new quarterback in there, one that wasn't pampered to the
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: level that you had with DeMond Williams, I think that
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: that's a good offset for what I think was a
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: mistake on Monday. in how he messaged to the public about, um,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: you know, the loss, you know, the, the message on Monday,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: you know, even if asked, uh, about the money, you know,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: and whether or not that's impacting, you know, it's, it's
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: real simple. I know that, um, we get media training
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: every year, you know, and as a quarterback, you know, they're,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: they're saying, Hey, look at you, you can shape the
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: message however you want. And, you know, you know, Jed,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Judith says, Hey, Hey, we, we are, uh, all he
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: could have or should have said needed to say on
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Monday was we are, uh, pouring over what happened Friday,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: taking ownership of it, learning from it and have the
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: highest urgency to fix, um, what needs to be fixed and,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: and then go in to a game against Purdue and,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: with the right mindset to fix that and do it together.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: Whatever.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: I'm just spitballing. And he'd say, I appreciate your question,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: but I'm not going to answer that question when asked
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: about the money. So he seemed all too eager to
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: talk about the money. I think it's a very bad
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: look in the middle of the season. I voiced that
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: on Monday. Rick Neuheisel said it as well last week.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I agree with Rick. on that. And so now, uh,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: does it present a problem? Um, that's one of those
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: intangible things.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: We don't know.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: We'll see how they play tonight.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: All right, man.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Well, great stuff today. Wish we were speaking, uh, under
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: better circumstances. Uh, but, uh, yes. Yeah. Um, we'll do
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: it again next week. You're off on Monday. You, you, you,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: you're rid of Anders Hurst tonight on Monday. You can
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: do all those things you dreamed of doing on Monday.
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: How about that, he says.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Breaking off the ball and chain. Well, hopefully next time
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: we talk, we won the Kenneth Walker Cup.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope so. We'll be preparing for it, that's
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: for sure. All right. Have a great weekend. All right,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Hugh Mellon, our QB1, joining us for a Monday morning
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: quarterback session here today. responding to yesterday's loss to the
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Denver Broncos. Greg will do the same thing at 10 o'clock.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: As for us, we have just one more segment this week,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: and we are going to, I think it's Chris Kidd's
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: new favorite segment, to close out the week on Sports
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Radio 93.3 KJR FM.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: The more I hear from him, the more I despise him,
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: to be completely honest.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: He's really good, but whatever he's doing with this... I mean, he, oh, yeah.
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: You're right.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: He's had a rough go.
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: Of it here as of late. It's hard.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: But I just wanted to, the positive side of things,
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: good job Seattle sports or Seattle basketball fans for sticking
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: with it.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: We raise a pint to you, the Seattle sports fan,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: for your patience. You've endured way more than you should
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: have ever been asked to endure. Look at that. Yeah,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: he actually brought in a beer today. A pint.
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: Hefeweizen. In honor of Oktoberfest.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: All right, kid, who are you going to raise a
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: pint to?
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: I'll raise it to the Seahawks for keeping me windless
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: in Fact or Fiction.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Shout out to y'all. Pretty straightforward.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: You folks have fun. This is fun. No, it isn't.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: I'm crying over the Sonics and crying over Kid's record.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's funny because I'm like, geez, I don't
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: think there's anyone that's a Seahawk fan that picked the
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: Seahawks to lose.
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was pretty confident.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Not going to lie.
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: I thought you had it.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Who are you telling? Obviously, in the beginning of the game,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: I'm sitting there like, gosh, on top of it all,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: we're going to lose a fact or fiction.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, here you got the ball.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: It's overtime. Broncos couldn't earn a blade of grass against
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: our defense for three quarters. I'm like, this thing is over.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Myers is not only going to win the game for
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: us here in about four minutes. we're going to win
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Factor Fiction and get Kit off the schneid. You know?
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: But here I am.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Here you are. Here you are.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: Disgusting. Shout out Seahawks, baby.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: I'm picking y'all next week.
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: Got to get one right eventually.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Did you just raise a pint to the Seahawks losing
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: and costing you a Factor Fiction? I'm not even going
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: to drink to that.
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: You got to have fun with it.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: It's okay.
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: I'll drink to anything, so cheers.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I'm going to raise a pint. To the greatest drinkers
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: in all of Major League Baseball. The people that make
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: this delicious brew.
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: The Milwaukee Brewers.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: The Milwaukee Brewers.
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: I like that.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: To the Milwaukee Brewers.
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: Let's go. A brew for the Brewers.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Not only a victory over the Dodgers, but a sweep.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just spent a little bit of time
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: yesterday telling Anders how much I really admire the Dodgers culture,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: their winning culture and everything else. By the end of
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: that series, they were infighting the Dodgers. They couldn't believe
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: there were pictures of them in the middle of the game.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: If you only watch the Seahawks, if you didn't have
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: them on a side TV, the baseball game like I did.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: They panned the dugout, and it was like the fifth inning.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: They'd blown their 4-0 lead, and they all looked completely defeated.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: They were like, it's over. And like the fifth inning.
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: It's amazing what losing will do to you, huh?
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And the Brewers, man, they are a fun team,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: and they are a great team. I mean, they're not
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: doing it with smoke and mirrors.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: No.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: They have really good players, a lot of depth, the
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: best manager in baseball right now.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: And they play the game like a college team. It
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: is all out all the time, and every other major league...
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: i hope that this takes a hold in major league
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: baseball everybody copies the trends of champions why don't you
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: just watch how they play watch how they play baseball
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: maybe copy it yeah Maybe hustle all the time.
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: Play good defense.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, play good defense. So, to the Milwaukee Brewers, I
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: raise a pint.
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: Raise the pints.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Yes. And, of course, we raise a pint to all
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: of you. Thank you for listening. We appreciate it. We
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: will be back on the airwaves on Monday morning at
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: 6 a.m., but a lot more talk about the Seahawks-Broncos and,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: of course, game night with the Huskies tonight taking on Purdue. So,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Just sit back and be entertained. Greg and Jessamyn are
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: coming your way next. And don't forget Mike McDonald, top
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: of the hour press conference, talking about yesterday's loss. We'll
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: talk to you on Monday. Have a great, safe weekend.
• 30:29
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