Latest / The Magic Guys / Trick Supply Creative Magic Challenge #239
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- 0:00They're guys. They do magic. They are the magic guys.
- 0:11Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Magic Guys podcast, episode 239.
- 0:18I'm one of your hosts, Josh Norbedo, but to my left, we've got Nick Kay.
- 0:23Hi, friends. I'm Nick Kay. And joining us this week, we have Daddy Doug Kahn.
- 0:28What's up, y'all? And pardon me. You know what, guys?
- 0:31Before the pod, I set up this thread reel. Now I'm all tangled up in it.
- 0:35Let me just see if this thing works. Hold on.
- 0:37Oh, hold on. I am tangled as fuck that's how I got this needs work we'll get back to that item.
- 0:49I don't think we're going to sell any of those now I think it's worth mentioning
- 0:52that we do this live and unrehearsed we are just professionals at the top of
- 0:57our game talking about all things magic reviewing products and interviewing
- 1:02very cool people and sometimes those folks will be here in the chat we have Tim Askin in the chat,
- 1:08welcome tim good to see you there and he's saying where is
- 1:11everyone that's true so friends if you are in the chat say
- 1:13hello if you have questions let us know what's up
- 1:16because today we've had interview upon
- 1:20cool interview and it's been so long since we've had well just a freestyle fun
- 1:24jammy kind of session and so daddy doug has went and got like a whole bunch
- 1:28of cool toys for us to play with from trick supply there's a whole box full
- 1:34of magic yeah got bust the mic thanks of being here.
- 1:37So what's going to be cool, I think, about today is that we're going to be looking
- 1:40at some stuff that, I don't know, like some folks probably may not even know about. Right, Doug?
- 1:47Even I didn't know about it until literally Saturday afternoon as I was wrapping
- 1:51up the shop and I was like, oh crap, we got a podcast Monday about this store.
- 1:55Let me throw some stuff in a
- 1:58box. And so with that much preparation and little in between, here we are.
- 2:04We did it. We did it. And some of these things, I was just looking,
- 2:08because Doug sent us a couple of screenshots of things he might grab.
- 2:11And like some of the things I just, it's so funny, the rate in which we churn
- 2:16through stuff that comes out and we'll sort of think about it for a second.
- 2:21Is this relevant to our work? And if it isn't, you kind of forget about it.
- 2:25And now Doug's kind of brought up some things that I haven't thought about for like a year.
- 2:30But the idea of maybe considering how we would use it in our work is,
- 2:34What about Lou Bore Fiedler's Tenyo Banger from 2014, where you shoved cards in your face?
- 2:43What? See, this is all new to me. Who knows about this trick?
- 2:47You get bonus points if you do.
- 2:49I've heard of it. So the premise of today, you guys, is that there are some
- 2:54really good magic out there, as we all know.
- 2:56And there's also some super obscure magic out there. And the idea of today is
- 3:00that we're going to do this as a creative challenge where Doug has handpicked
- 3:04some absolute challenging ones to challenge both Josh and myself.
- 3:08And of course, you guys who are part of the show as well.
- 3:14You know, Nick is asking, is this the magic junk drawer?
- 3:18Kind of not. This is more like a purposely created challenge where there's some
- 3:22stuff that we might have found in the past that could suck, like this Mylar
- 3:26flower card. Let's be clear, there is junk in this drawer.
- 3:31Correct. It's very similar. It's like the junk drawer of Trix Applied, perhaps.
- 3:36Not junk as in bad, but junk as in stuff that's been to the side,
- 3:41hasn't had some love for a little while.
- 3:44Obviously, I'm trying to pick items that might be interesting.
- 3:47And hey, if you buy some, great.
- 3:51Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Okay, so I think we should do this kind of just not even looking.
- 3:58Reach into the basket, close your eyes, pull out a piece of crap or a good one.
- 4:02Look, we're starting with the buy bar card because this is what started this
- 4:06snowball rolling. That's right. I mean, we set this thing like I even know what's going on here.
- 4:10Yeah. And I'm proposing now. I proposed to the owner of Trick Supply that I'm thinking of his words.
- 4:17He said, Douglas, everything doesn't have to be a miracle.
- 4:21But the premise of this, I was going to do a series called Magic Tricks That Shouldn't Exist.
- 4:28And it was this item, the card to bag.
- 4:33Let me present it properly. There you go. The card to Mylar spring flower bag
- 4:38that inspired this series.
- 4:39And I don't know, I randomly pulled this piece of theater out last night.
- 4:44And that inspired us to think today of what we could do with the weirdness that exists.
- 4:49And tricks apply and beyond all right
- 4:52so that is okay so the listeners of the podcast
- 4:55let's just be clear like this is a very visual episode and this
- 4:58is a card that is red backed it's a six of clubs you can show it all the way
- 5:04around and it's perfectly flat or flat enough let's say that much and then after
- 5:07which it will open up into a little clear box that has a flower inside of it with a handle,
- 5:15not too reminiscent of the bag of nothing.
- 5:20And that's where my brain goes, where you can have a bag of nothing type effect.
- 5:26Yeah, so you guys have probably seen this trick where they show the bag empty
- 5:30and then they start pulling these nonsensical other bags full of nonsensical
- 5:35stuff like mylar flowers.
- 5:37So that's what this is, built into a playing card. We're just not sure why.
- 5:42So my first thought is, could you have two of them, one in each hand, and do a transposition?
- 5:50Like how fast could a transposition be done where you can fold the flower box
- 5:54back up and undo the card and have it look like they change places.
- 6:00The creator of this wonderful item obviously had some foresight here.
- 6:04They do send you several gaps.
- 6:06So it is cards to flower bats. You get, I think, four of them.
- 6:12Can you squish this flat quick enough? Probably not.
- 6:16It would be a slower transposition more than a visual one, but... Okay. Okay.
- 6:22Maybe like can it can it be done with one hand at all like
- 6:25can it be opened up with one hand to hang on the onto the
- 6:28flower yeah with some practice assuming you'd want
- 6:31to spend time practicing this oddity yeah yeah
- 6:34okay so my next my next thought is still
- 6:37in that manipulation realm could you have two of
- 6:40those cards back palmed and then
- 6:43like is it possible to instead of producing
- 6:46a card you produce the flower box like as you're
- 6:49producing it can your thumb slip into the thing i
- 6:52love how i get to be the hand model for all your ideas hey
- 6:56doug bring this to light i'm gonna ramble for three minutes about
- 6:59a method and then if you could just do it yeah i figured
- 7:03out if i hook my finger around this this card then
- 7:06maybe i could open it up quickly that way so okay
- 7:09this will allow me to do a one hand so i'm
- 7:12still on your last idea but that's more possible now by hooking the tip of the
- 7:16bag by the time we're done here this is gonna be a new murphy's release and
- 7:21we're gonna have a craig penny length tutorial on the cards to bag that kind
- 7:26of works hey got one yeah i feel like we can make this a cool hot item you know,
- 7:32i actually have an idea and i don't know if i mentioned this last week it's
- 7:36how a magician makes a christmas ornament so i'll come up to the christmas tree
- 7:42show the playing card do the thing
- 7:44pal and then hang this on the tree so that's what i'm gonna do with it.
- 7:50You could just put a paper clip on it so that it stays
- 7:53flat and then you could just flick it off with your thumb and then do the
- 7:56drop and that should expand making the little box yeah because if you add a
- 8:01little paper clip on it at a distance because it is a kind of b-back design
- 8:05that's that's right to the edge that gives this really nice camouflage if you
- 8:10will for that type of thing Yeah. And then...
- 8:14If that was the right way, that would actually look pretty dope.
- 8:18So I like the layering idea for sure.
- 8:21I'm trying Josh's back palm for the listeners at home. This is a pretty stiff
- 8:25piece of apparatus. There's not a lot of flexibility there.
- 8:29But in theory, you could produce it and then kapow it into that beautiful.
- 8:36Yeah. You know what would be great?
- 8:40Yeah, because you've got to have the six showing. if the red side was just black
- 8:44art so that you could do it in between your fingers like black art and make
- 8:47your hand look really singular so if that was like all black on the red side
- 8:50and then you could do the production showing the face of and then when you do the drop,
- 8:56yeah i like black art i mean if your act is going to be producing mylar card
- 9:00bags black art is a good way to go with this yeah because even if you wiped
- 9:05your hand over it so it'd look like a slow change like it so you hold it like
- 9:09this and then you just sort of do that pull down,
- 9:13and then you can just remove your hand across and then show that there's a box
- 9:15there that would look i think we're going to reserve some of my physical skill sets for more.
- 9:24Lucrative ventures let's move on still let's cart
- 9:27the bag okay the last thing i'll just say not
- 9:30a not a trick but more so like a fun like i could see this being a running gag
- 9:36throughout your show because it's so thin imagine you have one in every inside
- 9:40pocket of your jacket or whatever right and every time you're going to get the
- 9:46next prop it's like oh hang on i just let me
- 9:48just get this out of the way sit it down you grab your sharpie next time
- 9:51oh let me get this out of the way it's another one to get my deck of
- 9:53cards and oh this is in the way let me put my
- 9:56cards away oh i can't there's another one like that is a fun bit of stick you
- 10:01know throughout the show that can also be a transformation like you like you
- 10:07put a card in someone's pocket or you put into something of there some sort
- 10:11of receptacle then when you remove the card out it becomes the flower bag.
- 10:17Todd to flower bag. Look at that. Eight 95. That's a steal.
- 10:22Old school, cheap stuff. So that's what you're looking for. If you're looking
- 10:25for that at trick supply.
- 10:28Hell yeah. I like it. All right. We'll put it down to, yeah.
- 10:31We figured if we started with this, the whole show would be uphill after that. Yeah.
- 10:37All right. So let's look at product number two. What's on here?
- 10:41You know, this is actually, I don't think we talked about this.
- 10:45This happened to be on my desk. I just think it's a good product essentially
- 10:48for Paul Harris's Twilight routine.
- 10:51This is the moon from TCC.
- 10:53I didn't let you even guys know I was going to talk about
- 10:56it but it's just a really nice mirror with a
- 10:59velvet back on it and this
- 11:02allows for some really nice handling of these kind of routines
- 11:05where coins are hidden behind the mirror this mirror
- 11:08also has a light frame on it which allows for handling shells
- 11:12off the table separating them and
- 11:15so now you can do some hands-off visual splitting
- 11:19of the coins and if this happens to
- 11:22be of interest in anyone in the world and it is to me because
- 11:25that's why i had it at home anyway i just side share with it
- 11:28it's a nice letter holder a nice quality prop and
- 11:30then a great tutorial on some real visuals tcc's the moon if you have any thoughts
- 11:36on it great if not you know we'll move on what kind of effects can you achieve
- 11:40with it like uh so on a on a mat i imagine you have a coin you share the reflection
- 11:44paul harris back in the day when paul harris was developing He released an item called Twilight,
- 11:50and it's a half dollar on a table.
- 11:52You put the mirror on top of it, and when you pull it back, it looks like two, and then there are two.
- 11:58And that continues until there are four, and they go back into each other,
- 12:02and it's super visual. I think it'd be a great piece of social media.
- 12:06That's why I have it at home.
- 12:07But it's also been really in my world since 1988, I think, is when Twilight
- 12:12was released as a standalone manuscript. it.
- 12:15So if you want a great prop to do that routine, and if you're not familiar with
- 12:19it, it's in the Art of Astonishment volumes, which everyone should have. Amen.
- 12:25You know, not to bring up.
- 12:28Not to bring up double cross but i wonder if there's a
- 12:31way to do that effect with
- 12:34double cross on someone's hand so you
- 12:36have their palm out you've stamped them as you're you
- 12:39know moving the hand or whatever get the mirror there draw
- 12:43one and now pull it away and now it looks like two
- 12:46crosses pulled the mirror away boom now there is two
- 12:48crosses and then and then maybe the follow
- 12:51up is that now you do it without the mirror but now
- 12:54the cross is on the other hand that you know was never playing
- 12:57this game i love the idea
- 13:00of doing it on your hand and like using that visual to create another illusion
- 13:06i don't recall seeing that before and josh norbita you are a sub genius well
- 13:14i don't have one or have done it but that's what i when i think of roving and
- 13:18like how i might use something,
- 13:20yeah but that's what i was thinking is this prop in general
- 13:23is just cool like and it's you know it's produced
- 13:26for professional use how do you carry a mirror around if you're going to use
- 13:30it well here's a nice leather carrier so your your ship won't get banged up
- 13:33and yeah i think the premise of the twilight is interesting people used to i've
- 13:38only ever seen it done with a different take if you if i may it was twilight
- 13:42angels using the playing card and you would use a highly.
- 13:46Reflective Zippo lighter to do the same effect. Oh, yeah, he did take it that way.
- 13:50Yeah, Paul, you know, he originally had this idea as a shrinking card.
- 13:54So this, I think, is also an art of astonishment.
- 13:56But if you do this, it looks like the card kind of shrinks.
- 13:59So for those at home, I got the mirror on the back of a deck of cards,
- 14:02and as I push forward, it looks like it gets smaller, and then you can pull
- 14:06it away, and it's a miniature card.
- 14:08I think he also had some restorations and things of that nature.
- 14:12But yeah, uh, there's a marketed effect with the angels that uses,
- 14:16I'd love the idea of a Zippo for that.
- 14:19So the premise is interesting because you could use a Zippo that's highly,
- 14:21highly reflective and ask him to like, hold it in a certain way and then draw
- 14:25like stamp as you like, cause you could literally stamp someone's hand as you're drawing the other.
- 14:31And you got this big shield in front of you.
- 14:34So you could do a twilight effect like a double cross, but using something organic.
- 14:39Like I know half wonder if there's, if there's any kind of phone screen type
- 14:45of, you know, those ones where like people can't see when you're left or right.
- 14:49I wonder if there's any kind of phone screen things you could have where it's
- 14:53pretty much Chrome until, you know, like a mirrored Chrome until the actual
- 14:58phone lights up and you can see your home screen.
- 15:01I'm sort of curious if there's anything like that on the market because the
- 15:05principle still stands.
- 15:06And I think that's, we'll call it the twilight principle. I think,
- 15:09I think there's something in that.
- 15:11Yeah I'm sold on that now I'm gonna buy the Mylar card now
- 15:14I'm gonna buy the mirror I also wonder if Nick like I
- 15:18bet if anyone could do it you could I wonder if you could literally do the cloning
- 15:22of the coins on a spectator's hand like I wonder if they would even feel you
- 15:27know the extra bit of a coin behind the mirror before you reveal it you know
- 15:32yeah like imagine doing that and then you're doing the spring and then you know like,
- 15:38That would just be a fun extra visual that I've never explored.
- 15:42That could be a lot of fun. How fortuitous is it that you could actually hide
- 15:46the Mylar card behind the mirror and then do the mirror Mylar card?
- 15:53Now we're there. Yeah, yeah. All right, so now we're building an act out of
- 15:58these items, basically.
- 15:59Yeah. Well, the cool thing about doing a mirrored thing is that when you're
- 16:02building a shield in front of someone, you can drop things behind them.
- 16:06You could, you could stamp them.
- 16:08You could do whatever you could ring something in and, and, and it wouldn't
- 16:11be weird for you to put your finger on someone as you're actually holding or
- 16:16get them, get them to hold it themselves, you know, and then you can sort of draw that. And then you.
- 16:20Let me reiterate that I brought this home for social media. I think this is
- 16:24a great prop for that. And I think all the ideas we've talked about would make banger videos.
- 16:28The use of a mirror is a great hook to open a scene with, you know,
- 16:32you know how magicians do tricks with mirrors.
- 16:34When you do anything with this and it's good you're off to a good start we have
- 16:38a guy called dennis kim yeah he is amazing all right last thing i'll say i just
- 16:43had i just i can just see this visual and i might have to actually try and do
- 16:47this okay imagine this so you got the mirror.
- 16:50You're performing to let's say four people watching you stand up right roving
- 16:55magic okay so i'm performing there in front of me a little semicircle the two
- 17:01people on the outer edge One hand each Holding the edges of the mirror Almost
- 17:06like a crazy man's handcuff kind of setup, right?
- 17:09So they're still watching from this perspective But their outer hands are now
- 17:12holding the mirror You show a coin And you do the classic like big illusion
- 17:17type thing Both hands go in front,
- 17:21When your hands come back out, now there's two coins. Because this one goes
- 17:25in front of the mirror, this one goes behind.
- 17:27Then you let them check the mirror. Now you've done your business to do it again.
- 17:32Now you show the two coins go in front.
- 17:34Boom. It looks like both hands have coins because they're seeing the reflection
- 17:38of the same hand come back out. Now you have four coins.
- 17:41And then you could do it with any item that you can basically palm.
- 17:45Doing that stand-up is great.
- 17:48Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. they're holding one side each and they're seeing
- 17:52this visual of you know and if you if you can.
- 17:58Psychologically influence them in the right way you could be like grab any
- 18:01object right and it's like the closest thing they can see is like the sugar
- 18:05packet on the table yeah whatever yeah use that bring that to me and then you
- 18:08do that and you clone that into two things i bet you'd love me to clone money
- 18:12what who's got money you know like you i could just see like a little you know
- 18:17Drago Tiro was saying, would you use a bigger mirror?
- 18:21Now, again, let's just say for the sake of creativity, we use a larger scale
- 18:25mirror using this principle. Here's a fun thought, right?
- 18:28Just to gag it up. So you can put your hand in, and then as you pull your hand
- 18:33away, your hand gets smaller, right?
- 18:35And then you pull out both hands, and your hand behind is just this tiny little hand. Right.
- 18:40Like his little Donald Trumpy. I actually love the idea of this. The baby hand.
- 18:47Oh man, which is $40 now. Hanson Chin's new release. Oh man, the baby hand's $40.
- 18:55Ah, Hanson getting it. I think the idea of that mirror effect as a stage illusion has merit.
- 19:02So that's worth thinking about. Well, I mean, there is a stage version,
- 19:05right? The guy that did it on Fool Us and he now tours with it. It's really awesome.
- 19:09Oh. and he does big bags of money go in
- 19:12and they come out but at the start of the react shows everything's clean
- 19:15and yeah it's really good
- 19:18but i've never seen anyone try stand up
- 19:21roving i gotta get on this all
- 19:25right yeah i'm gonna so all right so yeah i'm definitely buying the mirror now
- 19:28all right that's a good one i think this is really great because i think every 10
- 19:31minutes we sort of press on so we just hit the 20 minute mark hit
- 19:34the next one just so we know the name of it
- 19:36doug what is the name of this particular mirror the moon
- 19:40it was a tcc release and
- 19:43then we got a few of them at the shop okay the moon
- 19:47and one day once i practice you'll
- 19:50see that on my social media awesome i'm gonna do
- 19:53it i'm definitely gonna do it and i'll put up a clip
- 19:56eventually and that happens you know
- 19:59speaking of coin magic it was a coin trick that got
- 20:02me started in magic when i was when i was a young man i
- 20:05had a grandfather that could do this trick with a coin and he would make the
- 20:10coin banish and then produce it from behind my ear so i practiced that trick
- 20:15and i got pretty good at it i got so good at it i could pull my ear from the coin yeah yeah.
- 20:25So for those watching, instead of the coin disappearing and reappearing on the last time, his ear!
- 20:31The coin turned into his ear. Classic. That was for Scotty P in the chat.
- 20:37Scotty P wanted the silicone ear, so this is always in my bag of tricks these days.
- 20:42Unscheduled appearance. We don't need to talk about it. We can move on.
- 20:47But it is fun. That is fun. Let's talk more about things that look fake,
- 20:50but look real, but are fake. And you mentioned using the Sharpie marker with the mirror.
- 20:55And I think this portable from Danny Weisner, is it Weiser or Weisner? Weiser.
- 21:02This is a portable by Danny Weiser. It's meant as like a slap bracelet that you wear on your wrist.
- 21:07And I recall seeing Jason Maher use this in some of his mega viral videos.
- 21:14And I know we have these on sale and I haven't even really looked at the props.
- 21:17I thought beyond what he offers in the tutorial, which is kind of terse,
- 21:22maybe we could jam out a couple ideas for this thing. Kind of makes a nice visual vanish.
- 21:28That's super visual. Like, I'm just seeing that turn to nothing. Yeah.
- 21:33So essentially it's a slap bracelet that looks like a Sharpie marker if you're listening at home.
- 21:39Yeah. That was my first intention. When I'd seen the product being demoed,
- 21:44it was presented as a slap bracelet.
- 21:46But to me, my immediate thought was you could just make it vanish so clearly
- 21:51at the tips of your fingers. And I like that as an idea.
- 21:55And I think that if you're going to vanish one, there's
- 21:59there's there's sort of whenever whenever something something
- 22:02goes the question is where does it go so the idea of
- 22:05like vanishing it and producing one like like you know
- 22:08here would could be a fun idea like producing a
- 22:11real one you know so for those
- 22:14unfamiliar with the product he's he uses this as a transformation from a regular
- 22:19sharpie into the slap bracelet and the sharpies I don't think we're giving too
- 22:24much up it's on a reel so this goes up the sleeve up the coat down the pants
- 22:29whatever you do and it goes away this thing is introduced and then bang it's a slap bracelet now,
- 22:35Is it printed on both sides Tim asked?
- 22:37Wow Oh it is yeah the back doesn't have Yay the back,
- 22:42marking but you know if you do if you were to do a switch and
- 22:45even some time misdirection like me he suggests
- 22:48the reel and you know that's a pretty aggressive approach to this i think you
- 22:53could switch this on the offbeat could you could you have it so that you're
- 22:56actually producing it so so have it coiled up but now you're actually doing
- 23:00it right you know i thought this would be a good like i haven't tried this but
- 23:05yeah if you could put it in a like a point purse maybe.
- 23:09So i'd like one of my favorite productions is the fps wallet
- 23:12by brent braun i use this thing all the time you want
- 23:15a great product that produces a sharpie this thing is
- 23:18the brent braun's fps coin wallet we do offer these
- 23:21at trick supply also yeah bang that's a winner but that's the most ideal way
- 23:27yeah well it's a good one it's a good utility purse but i'm saying if you don't
- 23:31want to use a gimmick purse then this would allow you to start with a regular purse and can I... Sure.
- 23:39Ooh. Come on, baby. Yeah.
- 23:42Because I'm thinking that if you had it looped in your thumb,
- 23:46your hands could look relatively empty, right?
- 23:48You could just reach in and pull up and then show. Like...
- 23:55You know what I mean? Can I just say, you could also do it the other way.
- 23:59You could be done with the Sharpie. Just do a casual switch to the one while
- 24:05they're putting the cards away.
- 24:07Yeah. Put the coins back in the purse and put the Sharpie back in the purse.
- 24:11Some things to work out, but I'm sure that could be done. I think if your finger's
- 24:15in there to kind of loop it around as it goes in.
- 24:19Maybe you actually put it behind the purse and it goes on your thumb,
- 24:23but it looks like it's going in maybe. Oh, that works great.
- 24:28I love using it on the thumb. That's a smart, smart move. How fun.
- 24:34The other idea I was thinking of pre-show was that the pen vanish in the napkin
- 24:39kind of thing, where you fold up the napkin, get the spectator to hold it,
- 24:43and then you would collapse it. You could pre-steal it.
- 24:47I've got a weird thought. If you actually did that and you put a couple of bits
- 24:52of double stick tape on the front of it, you could actually stick that to something.
- 24:56And then when you snap, whatever it's actually stuck to it also vanish and wrap up with it as well.
- 25:02So it could be something as simple as a tissue or some sort of wrapping.
- 25:10Also magnetic. So you can hold it out with magnets and employ those methods.
- 25:16Here, I'm foreshadowing the next item, this magnetic popsicle stick,
- 25:21which I love. But it's my new favorite thing.
- 25:24But yeah, it's magnetic too for, you know, holding it out under your coat or even ditching it.
- 25:29Yeah, a nice one. So from memory, when Jason Ma used it, I think he used it
- 25:34in a pretty standard way that he started with it on his wrist.
- 25:38And I think he just peeled it off and then he did a change into a sharpie,
- 25:43real sharpie and kept going.
- 25:45Obviously you can do it the other way around. They finish with the sharpie,
- 25:47you do the sharpie change where you just flip sticking one and the other is
- 25:51producing and then just slap it on your arm. Obviously that's great.
- 25:55But yeah, the idea of people never knowing that it's that gimmick switching
- 26:00it into it so you can vanish it or appear it like a, like an appearing straw kind of thing.
- 26:05On sale now at Trick Supply, $12.99. When you order one, tell them you saw it
- 26:09on the Magic Guy so they know we're working hard for the cause.
- 26:13Hell yeah. You know what? You could do a vanish and then have Eject shoot another
- 26:18one in the air. Oh, come on.
- 26:21That's good. Yeah, baby. Yeah.
- 26:25Like, yeah. Dude, that Eject thing, man. Are you loving it? Do you use it all the time still?
- 26:31Yeah, I used it at Theater Magic. I used it at my corporate shows.
- 26:34It's just, it now makes it fun to, it just adds an extra bit that would normally
- 26:39just be you grabbing a Sharpie out of your jacket. But instead, it's boom.
- 26:44Yeah, let's use this. It's only a matter of time before they make one for like
- 26:47the Magnum Sharpie for stage.
- 26:50They'll make a big boy. You know what I mean?
- 26:52Here's something I noticed for anyone using it.
- 26:56The really, oh yeah, these ones here. So the really big Sharpies,
- 27:00these ones that have like the push button.
- 27:03I use these on stage because now I don't have to deal with a lid,
- 27:07right? A lid and the spectator's messing that up, so I bring these ones out.
- 27:11Because these ones are a little bit heavier and they're a little bit wider at
- 27:16the bottom, when you put this in the eject and you crank up the tension really
- 27:22high, you have to crank it up higher than normal because it is a heavier Sharpie.
- 27:26Instead of the regular Sharpies that fly out spinning, this one shoots out directly.
- 27:30It stays upright the whole time so it's super easy to grab out of the box whereas
- 27:38the smaller ones you really have to like practice being able to grab it in midair
- 27:42and i've dropped them plenty of times but this one shoots directly up it's like
- 27:46perfect it's just and you can just grab it,
- 27:49something you don't think about but you got to practice catching sharpies flying
- 27:52through the air you know it's not a gimme right yeah and you got to be careful
- 27:57how much you launch them because I have so many dints in my ceiling. Uh-oh.
- 28:03So you just want to be careful if you're shooting it into the chandelier of
- 28:07some sort of... It's a good trick and a nice self-defense. Yeah.
- 28:12Okay, what do we have next? All right, let me see. This is the idea,
- 28:16my latest idea with this thing. So it's with a penny.
- 28:20Yeah, put me on there. And I'm doing a trick with a penny, for God's sake.
- 28:24So as you can see at home, there's not much you can do with pennies.
- 28:28There's not much you can buy with a penny. Although when I was a kid,
- 28:31I could buy something with a penny. I could buy an ice cream bar.
- 28:34It was just a little one, though.
- 28:36So this is the introduction for the ice cream shtick paddle,
- 28:41which also includes a one-cent rebate. Oh, it's back.
- 28:45And using this paddle, we can do moves like this, where the coin apparently
- 28:49goes from one hand back to the paddle.
- 28:52And then there's also a surprise reveal of this.
- 28:57Of this paddle where apparently some of
- 29:00the chocolate melts to reveal essentially
- 29:03a playing card but i don't like
- 29:06that so i've been trying to think of other ways to finish this
- 29:09the the reveal will be white
- 29:12and it will be smaller than this coin which is
- 29:15hidden on this magnetic popsicle stick
- 29:19so if you're not watching if you're not watching the
- 29:23video i'm holding a miniature popsicle stick it's
- 29:26magnetic and it's hiding a penny on the
- 29:29back of it in this case which is how i
- 29:32produce the stick with the spellbound move and then using
- 29:35the paddle paddle move i'm able to show
- 29:37the stick clean and then the penny appears and
- 29:41then using the magnetic i can also do like a false placement using the paddle
- 29:46move and it comes back so those are some of the ideas from the instructions
- 29:50i think this little paddle trick is a gem with a lot of uh potential beyond
- 29:56what you're seeing and that final reveal as well what do you think so my brain goes a few places.
- 30:02You could do the standardized sort
- 30:05of routine but then you kind of want to take it somewhere you could i i
- 30:09would make i would actually like turn it into a pop stickle
- 30:12like the actual pop hate and pop stickle released by
- 30:14do scholar and like have the big one and just have a
- 30:17bite of it and and wrap up the yeah you know
- 30:20you could do this if you're using the Popshtickle sight
- 30:24gag and if you're not why not go buy one from Deuce
- 30:26Gala yeah this would make a perfect high end
- 30:30this little guy as a callback yeah Josh has got his going I don't have to be
- 30:36the only one on full screen oh mine also I just quickly I just quickly loaded
- 30:41up that big sharpie to see if it will if I can demonstrate what I've been saying
- 30:45about it shooting up straight so let me give this a go,
- 30:49Okay, it didn't do what I said it would do at that time. That's okay.
- 30:53Let me just try one more time here. Like an idiot. All right, here we go.
- 30:58And there we go. So it stays in one plane. It might deviate a tiny bit.
- 31:02But if I put a normal... I won't put a normal sharpie and it would put a hole
- 31:06in the roof. But yeah, buddy.
- 31:08Anyway, let me continue. Dragad here was saying that you could shrink it with
- 31:11a mirror, which is interesting.
- 31:14You can do it as a perspective illusion. You know, you could just be eating
- 31:18the thing and then do a swap-a-roo and then use the camera and be like, oh man.
- 31:25Yeah, because you could have the popstickle in like a tenkai, you know what I mean?
- 31:30And then just do a rotation as it comes up. And yeah, that'll look.
- 31:34Have we talked about the bombstickle yet? I happen to have this on my desk from
- 31:40Deuce Gala. Do you guys get one of these?
- 31:42Yeah, I've got one. Yeah.
- 31:45I definitely have one. We'll circle back to the chocolate one.
- 31:47I got one, but these aren't common in Oz. These aren't?
- 31:53No. I guess, well, the red, white, and blue is kind of an American thing,
- 31:56probably. That makes sense.
- 31:59Sorry, the geoffer. Yeah, I got this one as well. So I tell you what I've been
- 32:04trying to play with so far because, yeah, it's a little different in Australia with these.
- 32:08So I can't find the one that you've got there, Doug, but that's the one I've
- 32:11been trying out at the moment.
- 32:13And so in australia that's just a phallic device yeah
- 32:17pretty much so yeah i'm not really keen
- 32:20to just shove this in my mouth so what i've been doing is because
- 32:24in australia it's starting to get pretty hot at the moment so
- 32:27what i've been playing around with is producing this
- 32:30from my jacket and then going do you mind it's a little hot at the moment and
- 32:33then just starting to like rub it across my face and my neck and just seeing
- 32:37if like that gets a reaction as if like i'm trying to cool myself down and just
- 32:42kind of like obsessively like because you know if you really were doing that
- 32:46with an ice cream it would be super weird or an ice block because it's other ones,
- 32:50water-based but anyway that's why i'm kind of playing with it at the moment
- 32:53and i know this is gonna yeah thank you drag it here this is gonna end up as
- 32:58a bad meme i can tell but yet so.
- 33:01Starting to play around with it replace ice cream with penis yeah excellent
- 33:07if only i could do that with everything in life since we're talking about also
- 33:11a follow-up gag to this you know if you if you want to overdo it you produce
- 33:15this then you pull this out you want one i got bomb bombs yeah Well,
- 33:20I have a, another thought is if you take the ice cream, ice creams melt.
- 33:25So you could take Tobias's liquid kit and maybe have the ice cream,
- 33:31place your hand down and then have it melt to liquid brown, a brown liquid.
- 33:37That would be a good tie in either one of those items.
- 33:40Seeing it so little and it makes that little puddle. I feel like that would
- 33:43kind of work pretty nicely if you were doing it at a table set,
- 33:46especially, and then you could sort of lean into doing something.
- 33:48You could maybe like go from melting it turning into a
- 33:51hershey's which they can give them which i think it's something that he
- 33:54teaches something of that caliber as well yeah or
- 33:58you know getting a stick and turning it into a sort
- 34:01of lint ball that's on a stick or something like that nature
- 34:04but like it can segue into something if
- 34:07you melted it using tobias's liquefy do
- 34:10you do you have one of those either of you like yeah yeah
- 34:13have you used it tried that played with it i i've only
- 34:16ticket with it for parlor sets but not for my rooting sets yeah
- 34:19yeah the other thing i'd put
- 34:22out there for the that ice cream the one doug has
- 34:25the magnetic one is you know since it's a silly prop anyway and we're talking
- 34:29about juice gala why don't we lucky ladybug it like why don't you stick a ladybug
- 34:34on one side and now you've got an extra moment in the routine where you bring
- 34:39out the the ice cream you tap it boom you show it empty now you've got a.
- 34:45I've been chatting with Deuce Gala with Buck. I had an idea for making the Ladybug a paddle trick.
- 34:49And so I've had this idea for making, instead of cards with Ladybug, it's a log.
- 34:55And it's kind of a fresh idea, and I'm letting the cat out of the bag,
- 34:59but fuck it, it's my idea anyway.
- 35:01So, you know, my initial idea was based on a hot rod trick called Transpot by,
- 35:07I don't know, it's on the website, Johnson.
- 35:11But it's a vanishing spot with a hot rod force.
- 35:15So you show six colors, someone picks a color, and that spot vanishes from the paddle.
- 35:20And I just said, well, this could be a log, and it could be bugs.
- 35:24And now the ladybug trick is a log and a paddle.
- 35:28And I think bugs still play with some ideas.
- 35:31Recently, a rediscovery is Sawa published an idea with the paddle move and appearing
- 35:36ladybugs in his library of magic books.
- 35:39Great books. But if you want to kind of see this idea come to life, look there.
- 35:43Hell yeah so yeah it's already in the ecosphere i
- 35:46love it buck also sent me the his extension
- 35:50pack of lucky ladybug where there's four cards now oh yeah it's essentially
- 35:55if well it's it's just essentially if you want to be able to do two appearances
- 36:01of luck of ladybugs because now there's four cards there's two that have it
- 36:05and two that don't have it so you can do whatever.
- 36:09Frustration counts or Mexican turnovers or just double lifts or whatever to
- 36:13show that there was four of them and then you can have two people essentially
- 36:17wave their hands over and Or start with three ladybugs and one vanishes and two going Yeah,
- 36:24Yeah, and this new version has, instead of being logs, it's leaves on the back
- 36:29of it. Yeah, that's right, which is kind of nice.
- 36:32Hey, Buck Cohen, how happy are you? We're talking about your products for 30
- 36:35minutes today. Yeah, boy.
- 36:39Dude, he makes good stuff. Good guy, too. Deserves all the show. Great guy.
- 36:44Yeah, I love it. So, yeah, I like all the brainstorming and thinking that's
- 36:49going into not just what was already a great effect, But now this extension
- 36:53pack and playing with ideas that you've got with the making a log is perfect.
- 36:57Like I'm saying the ice cream could already work. And obviously it's just,
- 37:01it's an ice cream is silly to have a ladybug, but if you're going to make it
- 37:04into a log, bloody great.
- 37:0715 bucks. Ice cream shtick. You can't buy a good trick for less than 20 bucks
- 37:11anymore, but you can at Trick Supply. Ice cream shtick.
- 37:15Terry LeGerald. He's a smart one.
- 37:17Yeah. Hell yeah. What do you say we break it up with a gig story,
- 37:21friends, and just have a little pellet claim? Yeah. Let's get out of the garbage.
- 37:26Let's do it. So Gig Stories is a section of the show where we talk about things
- 37:30that have happened in our magical life, either from day to day or doing gigs.
- 37:34And Josh has a cool story to tell. and video yeah
- 37:38well i'll just it's simple and it was
- 37:41just a plan that i had in mind and i
- 37:44executed it and fortunately it's on camera so i
- 37:47can show you the proof but to set the scene i
- 37:50was at an event and i invited these these
- 37:53two people from the event to come and see the theater of
- 37:56magic because that's one of the beautiful things about having a ticketed
- 38:00show is that when you meet people and they ask you where do you normally perform you
- 38:03have a place to you know tell them so I
- 38:06invited them and I knew I had like three weeks before they were going to be
- 38:12there and this gentleman his name's Jesse great guy and his partner Lara they
- 38:17I know that he's the director of a rum company right they sell like a white
- 38:23rum I tasted it at the event it's great.
- 38:26So I'm like okay great I know what I need to do my plan was I'm going to order his rum,
- 38:33and make it appear in the show because I already do a thing where I make a bottle
- 38:36appear in the show how cool would
- 38:38it be if it was his so I immediately immediately go online and I buy it
- 38:45ships to my house I look at it I'm like oh this is a little it's short but it's
- 38:49a little wider than I'm I'm usually used to concealing but I'm like I have to
- 38:54do it so and I just patiently wait,
- 38:57comes to the show he doesn't arrive straight away so I'm like oh I hope I haven't
- 39:02done all this in like he might miss the first part of the show or not turn up or whatever.
- 39:06But he turns up and him turning up almost as we're about to start.
- 39:10Makes it even a little bit better because now he just has like even less assumption
- 39:15that like i might include no one would think it anyway but like now there's
- 39:19just less anything that i might do something knowing he's here specifically
- 39:23so i'm in the show i tell my friends i tell nigel,
- 39:29sean murgaard that's there like this whole thing and i and i pull out the rum
- 39:33and they're all excited they're like oh my god this is so good this is gonna
- 39:37be so good but in the back of my mind I'm like you know they might not react
- 39:40at all and it doesn't matter and you know it's fine,
- 39:44I'm not even going to bring it up that it's his
- 39:47rhyme I'm just going to do it as a little wink you
- 39:50know a little head nod move on with the show but what
- 39:53I can say is I did it I made it appear in the show and I he definitely noticed
- 39:58and I couldn't have asked for a better response so yeah I'm going to play this
- 40:02moment so what you're going to see is me with a bandana and I'm like I'm doing
- 40:07like my coin routine and like David Stone coin routine where at the end.
- 40:12In like seven seconds into when I hit start, you're going to see this bottle
- 40:15appear. And I've got two cameras.
- 40:17I've got the footage of me and I've got Nigel's phone filming the guy.
- 40:22So you can see it simultaneously.
- 40:24Anyway, here it is.
- 40:26A loud moment of misdirection to bring the coin back behind my elbow or as a
- 40:31kid behind my ear over tonight to celebrate with a nice bottle.
- 40:38Oh yeah!
- 40:44Thank you thank you thank you,
- 40:49that normally happens at the end of the show but i appreciate that,
- 40:55nice and then i gave it away to someone box it up gave it away to the person
- 41:00that was helping throughout that routine it was and then it was like a little call back to the rum,
- 41:04and for anyone listening to that on spotify it probably just edited out all
- 41:08that background noise but you can see it on YouTube.
- 41:11Basically, he stood up and gave an immediate standing ovation like,
- 41:15you know, seven minutes into the show.
- 41:18So I think he noticed. That's a legit, real magic moment. It's like miracle class.
- 41:25So deserve it.
- 41:27I think, yeah, I think just the lesson for me to remember is like anytime I
- 41:32can get some info on someone who's coming to the show and I can use that info
- 41:36in some way, do it, you know?
- 41:39It's the element of surprise is the same feeling as magic.
- 41:42So it's, it's like, it's, it's like a watermelon just appeared under a hat for
- 41:47him. It's like, Oh my God.
- 41:49Like, I, uh, I just finished reading a book called, I just finished reading
- 41:53a book called unreasonable hospitality. It was written by the guy who,
- 41:56I forget his name, but he, he like had 11 Madison Avenue, which was the number
- 42:00one restaurant in the world in New York.
- 42:02And basically it's, it's like a magic thing.
- 42:06Like his methods that he does to run the place are effectively magic
- 42:09just by overhearing people and observing
- 42:12people he will purposely have things in place to
- 42:15ensure that they have an amazing experience so one
- 42:18thing that he would do right is there was like a
- 42:21bunch of foodies that came in i said you know what we've tried every michelin
- 42:24restaurant in new york but we're flying off the only thing we haven't
- 42:27done is we didn't bother getting like a one dollar hot dog from a hot dog stand
- 42:31and so he heard that ran down the street grabbed like four hot dogs brought
- 42:35them back to the chef and said plate these up pronto and then was like look
- 42:38i know you haven't tried your hot dogs yet so here they are and they like gourmet
- 42:42them up and gave it to them so just those little moments of like knowing your
- 42:45audience when they're coming in,
- 42:47and he talks about this whole process with regards to like just having tons of stuff prepared
- 42:54and so i've started to think of ideas i'm like okay i
- 42:57should just keep one cupcake for every show just in case it's
- 42:59someone's birthday and then go boom happy birthday and
- 43:02we all sing give it to them like one like when
- 43:06someone rocks up with their luggage to to eat they're either just
- 43:08arrived and it's the first place they're going or they're about to fly out
- 43:11and it's the last place they want to go so identify that
- 43:14and if they're about to leave yeah look the food in the plane is gonna suck
- 43:18this is on us take this with you so you got something nice to eat in the plane
- 43:22and all of a sudden their customer experience is like through the roof so short
- 43:26of stalking think about it and know what you can bring to the game if you know
- 43:31the special people are coming to Your show is the lesson.
- 43:33So yeah. The other thing you can do is when you meet people after the gig,
- 43:38just write down little notes of, of like specific things so that if you get
- 43:41booked for that event the next year, you have some ammo, you know, ready to go.
- 43:46There's a magician that gave some crazy fire advice to me, which was like at
- 43:52a gig, they will do an effect.
- 43:55I can't give it away because it's not really, I don't just have permission to
- 43:58do this, but like he will get a bunch of information from a person for an effect,
- 44:03but he won't reveal all of the things that he got information of.
- 44:07So it's like he'll get them to write down like three things and he'll reveal
- 44:11one of them, for example.
- 44:12And the other two things he'll keep a note of for next
- 44:15time he sees them in like six months so that
- 44:18if he can if he can segue into them
- 44:21thinking of something now it's in real time
- 44:24no no writing stuff down no nothing
- 44:28and just boom yeah so that's
- 44:32power yeah yeah preparation is power baby all
- 44:35right shall we circle back and get creative because one of
- 44:38the things that doug said was we should bring one thing from
- 44:41our drawers slash cupboards that maybe the
- 44:44people may not know about so i would like to share
- 44:47a little something that i do quite regularly so
- 44:51let me share this with you guys so whenever you're producing a jumbo coin
- 44:54someone inevitably is going to go like oh was this
- 44:57filled with chocolate like they just it just happens all the time and so like
- 45:00there's a cool little gap you can get where you can do this and you can show
- 45:04that there is chocolate inside and just by like sealing it up like so you can
- 45:08then give it back to them and away you go right it's awesome now this is a little gaffe made by.
- 45:17How we've not had him on the show yet we're gonna have to ask him beg him to
- 45:20come bizarro it is called foiled again so when i was in vegas i knew this existed
- 45:25and so i said hey man like i know you do this thing with chocolate can you hook
- 45:29a brother up and he goes yep and so,
- 45:32i'm gonna assume that bizarro i know he pops into the shop would you have these
- 45:36on hand at trick supply I have them in the counter in the showroom.
- 45:42Uh yeah foiled again give me one second yeah yeah
- 45:45i cannot recommend this enough
- 45:47especially if there's kids and it's a great way to end stuff so like because
- 45:51i do a lot of stuff where like i hand the chocolate out and
- 45:54then i take this i peel back the foil and i just go cool you guys have fun i'm
- 45:58gonna have my treat and i just walk away with the chocolate exposed like this
- 46:02and just walk away from the situation so this for the money is a banger man
- 46:08the recommendation This is Bizarro's version of a Paul Harris idea.
- 46:13He put the idea for a chocolate coin in one of his early books.
- 46:17It's in The Art of Astonishment.
- 46:19Wow, who doesn't have Art of Astonishment?
- 46:22And, you know, a good version of this Michael Weber published,
- 46:25I think he called it Peeler or something like that.
- 46:29You take a piece of a magazine and you peel back the top cover.
- 46:33Like if it's a car magazine, you're like, yeah, you can look at the engine underneath
- 46:36and you peel it back. and there's the, you know, image of a car underneath a car.
- 46:42Yeah, so there's other applications for this idea. You know what this makes me think of? Separate.
- 46:49Separate to food someone's got to make like an iphone version where you you
- 46:55can pull back that you can peel back the back of someone's phone and it's like
- 46:58all these like yeah that's a buy,
- 47:01spyware things or something yeah man that'd be a that'd be a banger i've seen to buy go ahead,
- 47:09i've seen tobias do it with a coin he does this whole bit where
- 47:12he has a coin then he like opens it up and then closes the
- 47:14coin back up again and gives it out like yeah like it's
- 47:17an electric coin that does all kinds of stuff alex is
- 47:20asking if it comes in a normal dollar size i have seen someone release
- 47:23it recently this type of effect where you can do it with with a normal size
- 47:28dollar but in my opinion it's so small that the squeeze ain't worth the juice
- 47:33but with the jumbo it is yeah people by nature understand that like there is
- 47:38like i mean it's an existing product like big Like,
- 47:41chocolate coins are a thing.
- 47:44Yeah, makes sense. I like it. Yeah.
- 47:47And yeah, we need to get Bizarro on here. Like, he's the brother.
- 47:51I see him a lot. He comes in the shop.
- 47:53You know, even if he just needs a thumbtip, he'll come pick it up at Trick Supply
- 47:56instead of ordering it online because he's just a bro.
- 47:59You know, so it's like, always great to see him. I don't know that there's a
- 48:03nicer guy. I mean, wow, what a creative force.
- 48:06Yeah. Late Night Magic opening back up this month.
- 48:10The magician's room and the link they built a whole room for magic on the link
- 48:15promenade link promenade feral dylan's moving there dark stone show he's going
- 48:21to do some illusions the late night magic show and also the conjurers are coming
- 48:27back to town to work that room it's exciting right.
- 48:31Damn, it's all happening over there. You know, a whole room for magic.
- 48:34You know, a showroom devoted to magic is, I think, just great.
- 48:37All day long, magic shows. And the late night show is a killer.
- 48:41Stellar idea. All right, so Josh, what are you going to share with us today?
- 48:45Look, man, I mean, to be honest, my Juice Gala, the extension pack was the thing I was going to bring up.
- 48:51Oh, yeah. But I do also have this, which I've never used an actual trick.
- 48:56This is not even a trick. It's just you literally just buy this fidget spinner toy.
- 49:00But like it's essentially yeah two-sided rubik's cube
- 49:04the edges have colors on them as well but you can spin it and so i've used this
- 49:09for a trick once in a video where i started by showing this came back put a
- 49:15silk over it boom and now it's a real fully sized cube um i don't know like
- 49:20there's got to be a way to incorporate this somehow which would be a bit of fun right,
- 49:24like yeah i mean because like tinkering with a
- 49:27cube isn't too reminiscent of fidgeting
- 49:30with the spinner you know like there's there's
- 49:33a correlation between that i'm sure you could bridge that gap and have
- 49:36an effect that's a pretty cool idea yeah like
- 49:39and i know i know henry harris has the wafer cube
- 49:42out now which is great too but maybe there's something where like
- 49:45as this is spinning you're talking about something and in
- 49:48this hand maybe you are actually starting to solve it
- 49:51before this stops or you know something to be some kind of visual to play with
- 49:56i always see it sitting on my desk but i never take it out into the battlefield
- 50:00i just steve fierson had a method for floating fidget spinners you know using
- 50:06his uh right mega hookup floating cigarette okay.
- 50:11If you've seen people float coins or rings that's basically steve's you know
- 50:15lineage and doing a fidget spinner makes perfect sense yeah or maybe like you
- 50:21give it to the spectator like this and And you're like,
- 50:24I bet I can solve this big one before you can solve this small one or something.
- 50:29You know so they're like this and you're like ah too late i don't know yeah,
- 50:35actually maybe you do the bag gag where you have two
- 50:39solved ones but they think it goes in you know you know
- 50:42the gag you make them think there's an extra one maybe while they're
- 50:45quickly doing that you just shove mixed one the bag
- 50:48pull out the solved one ah see i did it they're like no you didn't yeah or
- 50:51if you have the thin one you put it on top you and it blows
- 50:54up into a bigger one like you can yeah you know
- 50:57some sort of like yeah so
- 51:01just a bit of a surrealist thing benjamin cox here says that
- 51:04i have a sponge cube and at the end of my rubik's cube routine when
- 51:06they ask to check it out i do the change i pass them a sponge
- 51:09cube and it freaks them out that's a clever idea yeah yeah i i've also i like
- 51:15the idea that um you could also have one that's glued together and doesn't move
- 51:20so like you give that to them i don't know if that make i don't know if that
- 51:24that enhances anything but like it's kind of funny,
- 51:27saying to someone can you mix up the cube and they can't because it's glued
- 51:30but then you bring it back and you're like what the hell like yeah just do that.
- 51:35That could kind of be funny yeah sponge cube is great yeah,
- 51:39There was a great trick at Magic Live, which involves the beginning part of the routine.
- 51:44When you hand it out, the cube just explodes when they go to mix it up. That's kind of funny.
- 51:49It just all falls apart. Like every piece just goes. Yeah, I was privy to see
- 51:54a very cool gaffe in order to allow people to mix cubes behind their backs.
- 51:58I will, I'll chat to you off air because I can't, I don't have the permission
- 52:02to share exactly what that is, but let me share something fun with you once I get off air.
- 52:05And let's circle back while we have, you know, a good six minutes left.
- 52:08What do we have in the bucket doug for sure
- 52:11i wanted to talk about this thing i've had
- 52:14the pleasure of meeting some local uh social
- 52:19media really icons pas magic has
- 52:22been in the shop this guy's got 12 million followers i
- 52:25think on tiktok and another six on youtube and then
- 52:28rodrigo they've been filming with matt franco what
- 52:32so if you're on matt franco's feed and you see a
- 52:34couple other magicians they've got a whole little powwow of just
- 52:37social media magic energy and you get
- 52:40a guy like with 12 million followers he knows what he's doing rodrigo is
- 52:44in the shop and he had this idea for a video in a coffee
- 52:47shop and he wanted to have a napkin come to
- 52:50life so we discussed some options for electronic thread
- 52:53reels there's some interesting things out there and i
- 52:56discovered this one and i had this idea for doing a
- 52:59a trick with a tissue where if
- 53:02a magician has to sneeze i was playing with hookups
- 53:05you saw me at the beginning of the stream i think i just figured out
- 53:08this one where i can use the coffee cup so there's the
- 53:12there's the tissue box now let's see if i can get this nope let's try again
- 53:17almost let me try it again let me do one more setup the murphy's law and i've
- 53:21never practiced this i'm going through this is an electronic thread reel on
- 53:25a 12 inch silk the silk is going into the box and it was probably tucked in the box too tightly.
- 53:32What I'm looking to do is get two movements from the silk. So I want it to fly
- 53:35away from me towards the cup and then come around and then come back.
- 53:40And then I would sneeze. That's great.
- 53:44Could you have a... Oh, you can't because you've got a trigger from your hand.
- 53:48But I was thinking like, could you have it hooked up so that then you can press
- 53:52it again and it flies off because it's still rigged to the next bit.
- 53:55Can I share... Quite a bit of rigging.
- 53:58You know what it is. It's a one-trick pony. It's got a button. It works by batteries.
- 54:02And there's a safety pin at the end of this. If I don't have any rigmarole,
- 54:05it's a great, it's just like zippy as it's, oh, it's a great little electronic reel. Yeah.
- 54:13There's, there's, there was one, I only did this once, which has upsets me because
- 54:17I guess I don't have the environment to perform it, but this is going to be great.
- 54:20Cause I might try and put this into a theater or magic show at some point.
- 54:23But what's really cool is if you do have a high ceiling, a large scale stage,
- 54:28you can do a bit with the balloon.
- 54:30Like like for example you could do like gypsy balloon do
- 54:34all your shtick and then you could have that balloon fly
- 54:37away and because it's attached to that thread when
- 54:40you activate it that balloon will now come back to you i feel like that's a
- 54:44valid idea but this this thing has one speed just for this reel anyway and it's
- 54:49go fast right so for a balloon effect probably not you want the most awesome
- 54:56bill snatcher in existence it's this right,
- 55:01But what else? Like what else could you attach it to? Yeah.
- 55:07How about you knock something over with it? So let's, could you have it like relatively loose,
- 55:11so that it's doing this type of thing flat and then you have maybe just like
- 55:15a pencil or a glue stick, something that's going to stand up vertically and
- 55:18then when you can reference it, the tension of it will just knock it over.
- 55:23Like the empty plastic bottle. Yeah, so you just put this in gear.
- 55:26So you have like, let's say that it'd be like a V shape and then just by pressing
- 55:31it like it'll just Oh, it's not animating an object it's triggering a secret
- 55:37action Oh, Nick, you're a genius,
- 55:40You have it anchored to the table and then you loop it around the bottle so
- 55:44it'll pull the pull it tight Yeah.
- 55:50Obviously you can do a rising card with it too if you have it anchored to the
- 55:53table the glasses in front of it Let me talk about the rising card for a second,
- 55:59I read a great one earlier today. I'll share a little.
- 56:01Here's a thought I had. This is, again, untested. But if you had a handkerchief in your coat.
- 56:07Yeah it was out and and if it
- 56:10hit the floor now theoretically yeah
- 56:14there it went so so now it's on the floor and
- 56:16when you need it back it gets back up there i like that a lot especially if
- 56:22you if you put a bigger nodule thing on on where you need to press so you can
- 56:27easily trigger it from in your pocket you know yeah this is pretty pretty tiny
- 56:32getting into it through the fabric but,
- 56:35that's the idea of having a pocket hang like you know dabbing
- 56:38your head for a second throwing it up and it goes back right like that's
- 56:41a great running gag yeah it looks
- 56:44really strong i just wonder if there could be some sort of propulsion in
- 56:47it as well because love the idea of
- 56:50using it secretly well here's here's the thing if
- 56:54you were to anchor it to to let's just say like
- 56:57to the camera okay so it's looking back at you and it's
- 57:00here if you press it and lock it
- 57:03is it tension at that point from now on it just unwinds it's loose and then
- 57:09it just reels it up okay so but okay so i want you to hold it between your hands
- 57:13just so i can understand this work so if you pull it so that so there's slack
- 57:17in between it okay yeah and now hold hold hold the silk.
- 57:22Yeah push the button but as in hold it
- 57:24hold it tight don't don't let don't let it don't let it yeah and stop yeah
- 57:28okay i see so it's like you know
- 57:32it's like okay yeah maybe i'm over here and
- 57:35i'm like yes it's like a psychic shock right okay yeah why you could also do
- 57:41is you just have that as an anchor point right now what you can do is you can
- 57:44anchor that to something a table or whatever else you've got this connection
- 57:47to you you could do a bit if you have like a folded,
- 57:53A bill would work really nicely as well.
- 57:56You could tear the bill in the center and then put it on the thread and then put it on the thread.
- 58:02And then what's cool about it is if you walk away from it because it's tensioned,
- 58:06it'll stay in place, right?
- 58:09And then when you want it to go down... There's no tension.
- 58:13Once you press the button... Oh, yeah, okay. There is tension once you press the button.
- 58:18Yeah, exactly, right? So now what you could do, if it's anchored here and it's
- 58:23tensioned, you can actually just clip the thread going from here through.
- 58:27You can clip it with your hands and then gesture it to go down. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 58:32Anyone who'd studied Masika's type of work on this would, yeah.
- 58:38And then this has got to be just a practical, easy, fun, magical thing to do.
- 58:44Benjamin says, I've used mine with a paper plane. Looks pretty cool on big stages.
- 58:49How goes that? Off stage, your assistant's got the trigger. You make a plane,
- 58:54just gently blow on it, flies off.
- 58:57I feel like for 50 bucks, this thing is that much fun.
- 59:00It's worth considering when you buy this from trick
- 59:03supply the batteries will be dead so you got to invest in
- 59:07some double a battery triple a batteries this is
- 59:10new old stock and it's a little gem
- 59:13you know it's not maybe for everyone but if you need to make something jump
- 59:16around you can spend a hundred or three hundred and fifty dollars on a thread
- 59:21realty forty nine ninety five to goof around maybe if nothing else you just
- 59:26have the world's best dollar snatcher and the last thing I mean, if you just...
- 59:32Just say mention the podcast when you order please do we want we're really interested
- 59:38to know how this moves moves the needle you know when we recommend and then i can hit up for some uh
- 59:43for some scratch how about some support for the pod wolf giveaway yeah absolutely
- 59:50the last thing we didn't consider and if you just want to add a little bit of
- 59:55spooky magic to your work if you're a card guy and you're doing a close-up set on a table,
- 1:00:01chuck the box into a card box and rig it up so that when you're done with your
- 1:00:06card, you can be like, oh, where's the box? Oh, it's over there.
- 1:00:09And then it just comes to you. I guess you switch it around, right?
- 1:00:13You'd have the matchbox in your hand, but you'd have it connected to the,
- 1:00:16you'd have it tied to the box.
- 1:00:18Boom. So the cards could really come out of it to begin with.
- 1:00:21And as you sit it down, you're now undoing the thread reel and so to come back
- 1:00:25you can just trigger it from your your suit jacket pocket or whatever,
- 1:00:30comes back to your hand put the cards back in that's
- 1:00:33a fun bit look i know we're already over but i wanted to talk about
- 1:00:36this it's cool i read it today and maybe someone will find this useful you're
- 1:00:39talking about it now rising cards in the card box so here's the deck of cards
- 1:00:44your card is in here this is an un-gimmick deck going into an empty box and
- 1:00:49one of these cards is your card I'm going to make it rise out of the box Here it comes.
- 1:00:55And there is your card.
- 1:00:59So it's an un-gimmick deck going into an empty box.
- 1:01:06You just give it a few shapes, and one card rises from inside the box.
- 1:01:13That card can be cleanly removed and handed to the spectator.
- 1:01:17And I think that's just a banger rising cards out of the box. Hmm.
- 1:01:23Have you have you tested that
- 1:01:26to see what like an audience how they react
- 1:01:28to it i literally read it earlier today in this book concerto
- 1:01:33for a pasteboard nice and uh let's do a little tutorial
- 1:01:36i don't think wary would mind this is wary he's a old german creator here's
- 1:01:42here's the remnants it's a little piece of double stick paint right there at
- 1:01:46the at the front cutout yes so it's i control the card to second from the face
- 1:01:52so the audience sees this going in.
- 1:01:56And then squeeze, so the tape adheres. And then this action of just shaking
- 1:02:00it makes that card elevate out.
- 1:02:03Sometimes the card's behind it, but then you can just push down and clean.
- 1:02:08I love this little riser. You're self-working, man. Self-working, I love that. Right.
- 1:02:14Yeah, that's a fun, yeah, that's really fun. I mean, that's just as fun as if
- 1:02:20you do that thing where you cut the hole out of the front of it,
- 1:02:23so it's coming out from the back.
- 1:02:25You can do both. you're pushing your finger up and it opens the lid
- 1:02:28and it's just fun and you
- 1:02:31could also probably do like four aces so you could do like
- 1:02:34one two you know if you wanted to make
- 1:02:37it a four of a kind revelation right yeah anyway free lesson today you can also
- 1:02:43get concerto for pasteboards you know who's gonna love this you know who's gonna
- 1:02:48love this all the old people who have the shakes in the magic club like all
- 1:02:52the 70 year olds that's why I'm doing it that's me,
- 1:02:55I'm there now keep my hand still one card will rise up and then just naturally does this anyway.
- 1:03:02That's pretty great anyway that's what you get for sticking around the whole
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- 1:03:20didn't even get to talk about cards and face.
- 1:03:22Oh my God. Oh, this is good.
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