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Speaker 1: Jesus, the reform it tonight.
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Speaker 2: How bad is the ABC when it shocks even the
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Speaker 2: Albanezy government. Yes, the government today demanding answers from the
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Speaker 2: ABC about it scandalous stitch up of a soldier, Hess
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Speaker 2: Thon Russell, with yet more evidence of doctoring. It's the
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Speaker 2: evidence it was presenting. This one is extraordinary. Also today
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Speaker 2: China's army boasts it now declares Australia the enemy. So
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Speaker 2: how come this government again says nothing? Has China got
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Speaker 2: it by its throat? Victoria points a new judge who
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Speaker 2: actually tried to keep the innocent Cardinal George pell in
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Speaker 2: jail for a crime he could not have committed. And
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Speaker 2: that's not all. There's something strange going on to Victoria.
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Speaker 2: Plenty more coming up, But first these astonishing pager bomb attacks.
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Speaker 2: Where is the applause for Israel? Where is the credit
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Speaker 2: for Israel launching the cleanest attack you've ever seen on
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Speaker 2: a terrorist enemy that's hiding among civilians. At three thirty
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Speaker 2: pm yesterday local time in Lebanon, pages went off in
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Speaker 2: thousands of pockets and warning some of the footage I'll
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Speaker 2: be showing you was confronting. They went off like this
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Speaker 2: several beeps and then now looked to the left a bang.
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Speaker 2: Now Around Lebanon and also in Sirius, well up to
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Speaker 2: four thousand Hesbela terrorists and supporters were blown up or
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Speaker 2: injured by their pages from the footage, virtually all of
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Speaker 2: them of military age, who are out shopping or on
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Speaker 2: their scooters or in their cars. And hospitals in Beirut
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Speaker 2: were suddenly thronged by vehicles bringing in wounded men, including
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Speaker 2: Iran's ambassador. And the blood on his shirt is proof
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Speaker 2: that Iran is too close and I mean that literally
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Speaker 2: to the Hesbela terrorists funded and who have fired thousands
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Speaker 2: of rockets into Israel. Those rocket attacks by Hebelas what's
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Speaker 2: forced Israel to hit back and more is the come.
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Speaker 2: So what happened? The israel Is saying nothing, but reports
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Speaker 2: suggested these Taiwanese licensed pages were rigged. Hesbelah had ordered
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Speaker 2: its men not to use mobile phones, Israel was tracking them,
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Speaker 2: and Hesbela issued its fighters these pages instead. But somehow
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Speaker 2: Israel had got into them. Some say I maybe just
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Speaker 2: managed to remotely set off the Lidian batteries. More likely,
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Speaker 2: it rigged them with explosives to kill the bear, but
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Speaker 2: as you see, not the people around them. It was
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Speaker 2: a stunningly clever plot. Now there are claims of eleven
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Speaker 2: deads so far in Lebanon, several more in neighboring Syria.
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Speaker 2: Lebanon says that of the four thousand wounded, nearly four thousand,
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Speaker 2: four hundred are in a critical condition, so militarily speaking,
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Speaker 2: a massive success. But there's something else important. No other
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Speaker 2: country I know has pulled off a kill as perfectly
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Speaker 2: targeted as this, but no act of self defense by
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Speaker 2: Israel is pure enough for its critics. Most reports i've
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Speaker 2: seen mention the only alleged civilian death so far claimed
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Speaker 2: by hesbulah Iranian line newspapers are full of it, an
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Speaker 2: eight year old girl who I suspect may being the
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Speaker 2: daughter of a hesbela terrist. That is tragic if true,
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Speaker 2: But I wonder why so many Western journalists mention this
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Speaker 2: alleged death of the girl before naming any of the
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Speaker 2: thousands of terrorists have been maimed or killed. What's the
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Speaker 2: agenda here? And I wonder if it's Israel, and only Israel,
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Speaker 2: who's that's banned from hurting thousands of its terrorist attackers.
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Speaker 2: If even one civilian is hit as well. Now Hasbla
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Speaker 2: Memhile played this dead civilian card that Hamas has also
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Speaker 2: used against Israel with devastating success. His has been supposed
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Speaker 2: to be in Ibrahim al Musasi.
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Speaker 3: This is a complete the crime against the civilians. What
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Speaker 3: we have seen is that kind of progress and the
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Speaker 3: Paelia crime against its people.
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Speaker 2: It's against the civilians. Are they're all civilians? Haven't we
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Speaker 2: heard that before? But that terrorist spokesman hasn't explained by
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Speaker 2: the injured scene Actually almost all men of military age,
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Speaker 2: and they were all in southern Beiru or most of them, sorry,
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Speaker 2: most in southern Beirute has BLUs stronghold. And why hasn't
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Speaker 2: explained by so many civilians mysteriously carried old fashioned pages
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Speaker 2: rather than mobile phones. Well, the United Nations also did
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Speaker 2: its routine that it does whenever Israel defends itself.
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Speaker 4: I can tell you these developments are extremely concerning. We
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Speaker 4: of course deplore the civilian casualties. We cannot underscore enough
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Speaker 4: the risks of escalation in Lebanon and in the region.
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Speaker 1: So Israel tax thousands thousands.
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Speaker 2: Of terrorists, unfortunately hits one girl, and Israel still.
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Speaker 1: Cannot give.
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Speaker 2: The UNS still can't give Israel a pass even on
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Speaker 2: a strike as surgical as that against an enemy firing
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Speaker 2: rocket after rocket after missile into Israel. If that's the case,
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Speaker 2: then this problem is not how Israel defense itself, but
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Speaker 2: that Israel defense itself at all. For this strike, as
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Speaker 2: I said, is a stunning the military success. Thou has
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Speaker 2: been a terrorist and be put out of action. Leaders
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Speaker 2: can't even now trust pages to communicate with their government,
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Speaker 2: and they will be paranoid about what else. Israel has
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Speaker 2: booby trapped the Taiwanese company, by the way, whose pages
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Speaker 2: were apparently stuffed with explosives. Meanwhile, says it didn't actually
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Speaker 2: make these things. It licensed some European company to make
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Speaker 2: those pages with their gold Topolo label on them.
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Speaker 5: Well oil, our company provided label authorization to them.
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Speaker 4: This is not a product of gold a Polo.
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Speaker 6: It is a product I authorize them to use our brand,
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Speaker 6: trademark Borrod.
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Speaker 2: And this amazing operation is going to give many Israeli's
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Speaker 2: heart because their confidence, as you know, has been smashed
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Speaker 2: evidence in their army and their intelligence agencies because you
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Speaker 2: remember on October seven, massive security failure. But since then
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Speaker 2: Israel has assassinated the top Handmasks leader by somehow planting
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Speaker 2: a bomb under his bed in the Iranian capital. It's
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Speaker 2: blown up Israel's top military official in be root of
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Speaker 2: very surgical strike. And it's sent in a ground unit
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Speaker 2: just last week to destroy an underground Iranian missile factory
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Speaker 2: in Syria. And now this I tell you Israel's warriors
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Speaker 2: are backed in form and its critics now can only
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Speaker 2: how that a prey that's escaped again. Joining me is
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Speaker 2: Peter Jennings, Director of Strategic Analysis Australia. His many national
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Speaker 2: security jobs have included Deputy Secretary for Strategy in the
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Speaker 2: Defense Department. He's also a senior fellow and former head
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Speaker 2: of the Austrange Strategic Policy Instit. Peter, always an honor
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Speaker 2: to talk to you. This attack, obviously be Israel shows
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Speaker 2: incredible intelligence. I mean, how did it get into those pages?
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Speaker 2: How did it get Hasibilla to take them and distribute them?
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Speaker 2: How did it hack into them? What does all this
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Speaker 2: tell you about Israel's capabilities?
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Speaker 7: Well, it's clearly a product of some very good intelligence work.
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Speaker 7: And I guess two dimensions had to happen andrew to
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Speaker 7: fall together. One was the Desreel was able to get
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Speaker 7: its hands on these pages or exact replicas of them,
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Speaker 7: and put into those pages something in the order of
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Speaker 7: fifty grams or so of high explosive not more, because
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Speaker 7: as we've seen from the videos, it's been very localized.
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Speaker 7: Then the other thing, of course, is that pages operate
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Speaker 7: on an electro tronic network, and so Israel worked out
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Speaker 7: how to turn that network on, how to send a
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Speaker 7: signal which would activate the bomb in each of those pages.
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Speaker 7: An intelligence coup and an operational military coup, no question
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Speaker 7: about it, and I agree with your intro. It was
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Speaker 7: targeted against Hesbula leadership, that is to say, fighters who
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Speaker 7: are sworn to the destruction of Israel. It was certainly
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Speaker 7: proportionate in the sense that it is a response to
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Speaker 7: daily rocket attacks harming Israeli civilians coming from southern Lebanon,
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Speaker 7: and it's done so with minimal damage to civilians and
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Speaker 7: other noncombatants it would seem in Lebanon. The icing on
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Speaker 7: the cake is also injuring the Iranian ambassador, which, as
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Speaker 7: you say, just shows how closely Iran is tied into
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Speaker 7: these networks of terrorist groups which are out to do
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Speaker 7: damage to Israel. So after the intelligence disaster of October
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Speaker 7: seven last year. This represents I think a high point
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Speaker 7: of Israeli military and intelligence success.
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Speaker 2: I must add those rocket attacks at Hasblah has been
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Speaker 2: mounting on Israel have kept nearly more than sixty thousand
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Speaker 2: Israelis out of northern Gaza, away from their home for
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Speaker 2: nearly a year. Now. All that said, what effect do
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Speaker 2: you think this strike is going to have on the
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Speaker 2: various conflicts that Israel has to the north with Hezbelah,
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Speaker 2: to the south with Hamas So, the further south with
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Speaker 2: the Houtis, and of course over in the east with Iran.
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Speaker 2: That's the paymass of all three terrorist armies.
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Speaker 7: Well, it's a fight which will continue, Andrew, But I
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Speaker 7: think what we're seeing here is that Israel is actually
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Speaker 7: able to get on to the front foot by doing
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Speaker 7: something quite unusual, and that's taking the war to the
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Speaker 7: military leaders of these organizations. It's normally the foot soldiers
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Speaker 7: which are in combat or in harm's way. Here we
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Speaker 7: see people who are part of the Hesbala network sufficiently
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Speaker 7: important to that network to be in constant communication via
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Speaker 7: PAGA with their senior leadership. And I think the message
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Speaker 7: that really israelis sending is we know where you are,
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Speaker 7: we can find you. Don't think that being a commander,
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Speaker 7: being able to hide in Tehran or being able to
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Speaker 7: hide in Beirut is going to protect you, will be
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Speaker 7: able to go after you. And I think that's going
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Speaker 7: to give significant pause to Iran, to the Iranian Revolutionary
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Speaker 7: Guards force, to the senior leaders of Hesbela and Hamas
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Speaker 7: to think that they can't get away with their military
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Speaker 7: actions scot free. It's not just the poor people of
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Speaker 7: Gaza who suffer, it's the leaders of these organizations. So
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Speaker 7: Israel is rebuilding to terrence on its terms, and I
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Speaker 7: think that's a positive to take away from today's experience.
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Speaker 2: One final thing, Peter Jennings. China As meanwhile released video
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Speaker 2: of one of its fighters, the Jets, two years ago,
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Speaker 2: apparently intercepting one of our surveillance planes of the South
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Speaker 2: China Sea. We reported on that particular attack before. China claims,
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Speaker 2: of course it owns the South China Sea, it's actually
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Speaker 2: international waters, and it dumped aluminium anti missile chaff in
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Speaker 2: front of our plane that could have brought it down.
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Speaker 2: And with this video, there's audio from the pilot describing
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Speaker 2: us as the enemy, saying we must show our swords
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Speaker 2: to the enemy. But no word of criticism about that
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Speaker 2: from the Prime Minister, no word of criticism from the
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Speaker 2: Foreign Minister, and none from the Defensive Minister. Here he
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Speaker 2: is today.
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Speaker 8: We seek to build the most relationship that we can
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Speaker 8: with China. We've said all along that we've sought to stabilize
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Speaker 8: our relationship with China and work with China where we
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Speaker 8: can disagree where we.
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Speaker 2: Must, Peter Jennings, isn't this actually exactly when the government
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Speaker 2: must disagree with China?
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Speaker 7: Of course it is, Andrew, and so much for the
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Speaker 7: stabilized relationship. I mean, as always Richard Miles's forty eight
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Speaker 7: hours behind in terms of his talking points, after all
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Speaker 7: of the efforts which the Albanezi government has made to
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Speaker 7: look the other way, to pretend that China doesn't present
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Speaker 7: a strategic problem for Australia. When you have the Chinese
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Speaker 7: military celebrating the fact that they are attacking us, attacking
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Speaker 7: our own forces as the enemy, we really do need
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Speaker 7: to have the Prime Minister and the Defense Minister and
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Speaker 7: Foreign Minister coming out in defense of the Australian Defense force.
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Speaker 7: If nothing else, I think our government's failure to treat
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Speaker 7: China as the strategic risk it is, rather than pretending
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Speaker 7: that it somehow stabilized the relationship is a significant weakness
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Speaker 7: in the government's defense policy and it's really something that
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Speaker 7: needs to be addressed in a more serious way to
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Speaker 7: acknowledge the threat and the resk which China presents not
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Speaker 7: just to Australia but to many other countries in the
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Speaker 7: Indo Pacific region.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely correct, Peter Jennys, thank you so much a d
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Speaker 2: for your time. I must say, by the way, I
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Speaker 2: have just come across the most disgusting texts or posting
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Speaker 2: by Marrying Ferruki, the Green's deputy leader. If you wanted
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Speaker 2: evidence of where she stands in this war between Israel
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Speaker 2: and its terrorist enemies, listen to this. Remember this is intact.
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Speaker 2: You could hardly get it more perfectly proportional only on
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Speaker 2: terrorists members of from US and with claims that one
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Speaker 2: one civilian was also killed. Right, you couldn't get more proportionate.
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Speaker 2: The horrific pages attacked. She texts that has killed nine people,
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Speaker 2: including a young child, and left thousands wounded across Lebanon
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Speaker 2: is exactly the type of sickening warfare. She says, sickening
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Speaker 2: warfare that people in nam Melbourne were protesting against. The
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Speaker 2: perpetrators must be held to account. Israel, according to the
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Speaker 2: Greens Deputy leader, must be held to account for killing terrorists.
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Speaker 2: Now has she actually ever said that Hamas should be
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Speaker 2: held to account? Hezbollah should be held to account. The
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Speaker 2: Greens are a sick political influence. Labor has to reject
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Speaker 2: any preference deal with a party this sick. They have
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Speaker 2: to be of an out of parliament. I mean, it's
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Speaker 2: just how can we have these people in our parliament. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 2: there's an increasing sense of political chaos. I think that
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Speaker 2: didn't help today. More massive demonstrations in Sydney by construction
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Speaker 2: workers furious so the ambanies. The government's de registered the
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Speaker 2: CFMA union of claims of corruption and links to organized crime.
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Speaker 7: No safety, no nothing, how benezy, I want your job
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Speaker 7: gone now.
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Speaker 2: The Opposition used today's protest to a tech workplace in
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Speaker 2: Mister Murray Watt and accused the government of turning a
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Speaker 2: blind eye for too long to our most lawless union,
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Speaker 2: which now has an almost cult like status among its members.
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Speaker 9: Where is Minister what condemning this behavior? Minister what has
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Speaker 9: the ability to go to the Fair Work Commission and
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Speaker 9: actually ask the Fair Work Commission to step in. They
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Speaker 9: could step in today, they could step in tomorrow and
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Speaker 9: bring this action to a halt. What is it going
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Speaker 9: to take for mister Albanezi as the Prime Minister of
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Speaker 9: this country to wake up and admit that he was
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Speaker 9: wrong to abolish the Australian Building and Construction Industry Commission,
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Speaker 9: the tough cop on the beat that was, despite everything
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Speaker 9: he says, holding the construction industry to account.
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Speaker 2: Joining me at Cameron Milner, former chief of Staff the
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Speaker 2: Labor leader Bill Short now Director of GXO Strategies at
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Speaker 2: Michael Costa, former New South Wales Labor Treasurer before I
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Speaker 2: get onto the CFMU, think Cameron that posting by marrying Ferruki,
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Speaker 2: the Deputy leader of the Greens, saying that Israel should
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Speaker 2: be held to account for a strike that almost exclusively
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Speaker 2: killed terrorists and wounded trust. What do you make of it?
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Speaker 10: Well, it just shows how disgustingly extreme the Greens political
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Speaker 10: party is now Andrew and why Labor has to drop
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Speaker 10: the Greens party.
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Speaker 1: Labour should walk away from the Greens.
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Speaker 10: Not only for tonight's tweet, which is just truly appalling.
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Speaker 10: But all the other things, those protests last week where
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Speaker 10: senators stood up in front of them, defended, defended Fezi's
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Speaker 10: being thrown at police officers. I mean, the Green's political
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Speaker 10: party are a disgrace and Labour cravingly chasing their preferences
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Speaker 10: is also just as disgraceful.
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Speaker 1: Andrew Labor stop against.
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Speaker 10: One nation because they are extremists, and they need to
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Speaker 10: stand up against the Greens, who is equally their extremists.
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Speaker 10: And they need to put the Greens last, the Greens last,
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Speaker 10: and they had a boat carts. If not, Labour should
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Speaker 10: stand condemned alongside the Greens for these actions.
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Speaker 2: Michael costs that Labour will say, well, if we do that,
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Speaker 2: we're going to lose the election. We have to make
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Speaker 2: some sort of preference to the swaps with the Greens.
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Speaker 1: Is that really good enough?
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Speaker 11: Look, I think real politics will win out here, specially
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Speaker 11: if we're heading for a hung parliament. They're going to
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Speaker 11: need every Green preference they can get to get over
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Speaker 11: the line. Look, I agree with the sentiment, but I
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Speaker 11: think you'll find that the strategists within Labor will not
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Speaker 11: go down that path. It allows the coalition obviously to
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Speaker 11: make political capital. But at the end of the day,
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Speaker 11: I think real politics will win out here.
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Speaker 2: Yes, except, of course, part of real politic is to
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Speaker 2: do something that's popular. It has got to be made
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Speaker 2: clear to Australian voters that Labor is making a deal
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Speaker 2: with a party that is so evil. Now. I don't
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Speaker 2: want to stretch the analogy beyond ridiculous extents, but people
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Speaker 2: look back on ninety thirty nine and how conservative parties
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Speaker 2: made a deal with Hit they could control them. This,
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Speaker 2: to me, it's not as extreme, but it's the same
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Speaker 2: sentiment making a deal with something that represents evil in
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Speaker 2: order to grab power, and the Greens will eat Labor
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Speaker 2: in the long term. That's that's how I see it.
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Speaker 10: And Cameron Andrew and Andrew, I was just going to
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Speaker 10: say we stood up to one nation when it was
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Speaker 10: a huge political risk in Queensland. We stood up to
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Speaker 10: one nation was a huge political risk in Queensland, Michael.
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Speaker 10: We stood against one nation when one nation was preferencing
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Speaker 10: and hugely popular, and we got votes for it because
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Speaker 10: we stood up for the right thing. Michael, not just
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Speaker 10: did it some grubby preference deal and turned out turned
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Speaker 10: away from it. I think you and I are on
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Speaker 10: the same page on this, Michael. I think there are
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Speaker 10: strategies in Labor Party who would hold their nose and.
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Speaker 1: Do the deal.
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Speaker 10: But Labour's better than that, and Labor's got to put
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Speaker 10: the Greens last.
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Speaker 11: Well, I don't think Labour's better than that, and I
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Speaker 11: think you're talking about the old Labor Party that you
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Speaker 11: and I probably worked. Labor has changed and would be
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Speaker 11: real about that.
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Speaker 2: Well, that makes three of us. Labor has changed from
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Speaker 2: the time I worked for it too, not as long
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Speaker 2: as you two guys, or in any senior position like that.
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Speaker 2: But to see you see if you Cameron, it's been
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Speaker 2: Labour's biggest union donor for a long number of years.
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Speaker 2: He gave Labor three million dollars in the year before
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Speaker 2: the last federal election that apparently now is over. When
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Speaker 2: you see the sentiment of the protests today, how much
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Speaker 2: of this is going to hurt Labor do you think?
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Speaker 1: Well, I think it will hurt labor.
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Speaker 10: I mean Anthony Albanese was already seen as weak and
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Speaker 10: useless by voters, according to polsters, and he tried to
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Speaker 10: be the tough guy standing up to see FMU despite
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Speaker 10: the fact that we knew a whistleblower said that ten
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Speaker 10: years ago he told Anthony Albanize about the corruption and
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Speaker 10: the see of him. You and Albert did nothing about
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Speaker 10: it for a decade until the polls were down and
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Speaker 10: he had to look like a tough guy. I think
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Speaker 10: the problem for Labor with this is there was a
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Speaker 10: court process, a fair court process that they overrode, where
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Speaker 10: the parliamentary deal to put the administry in place. And
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Speaker 10: I think workers, blue collar workers will see labor no
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Speaker 10: longer as a friend of theirs, but potentially the enemy.
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Speaker 10: So electorally, I don't do't worry about the dollars Andrew,
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Speaker 10: it's actually about the electoral support that Labor is completely
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Speaker 10: trashing when they go after working people and their union, which.
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Speaker 1: They own so much.
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Speaker 10: The cvm ME members really feel a sense of pride
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Speaker 10: in their union and they feel that Albanese has attacked
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Speaker 10: them and their union.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and on the other hand, it has been such
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Speaker 2: a troublesome un breaking the law so often, and these
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Speaker 2: links with organized crime. I mean that's the issue, that's
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Speaker 2: the problem. I think it's cort between the devil and
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Speaker 2: the deep blue sea. But there's a problem On another front,
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Speaker 2: of course, Michael, you've got business organizations turning on labor,
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Speaker 2: build Kelty turning on labor as well. The former Agency
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Speaker 2: U secretary, although I must say the Coalition to last
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Speaker 2: night also got a well deserved whack from the Business
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Speaker 2: Council for its ludicrous threats the four supermarkets that invest
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Speaker 2: some stores to bring down prices. If that's what it
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Speaker 2: came to, here's the Business Council's president.
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Speaker 12: Maybe popular the bash big business, but in doing so
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Speaker 12: we are making six fess to boo in this country
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Speaker 12: and that is not consequence free.
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Speaker 11: Why would anyone want.
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Speaker 12: To invest in Australia even a modicum of success is criticized.
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Speaker 12: Why would anyone want to invest in a country where
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Speaker 12: a four or five percent profit margin gets you an
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Speaker 12: accusation of price gouging and a call for devestment. And
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Speaker 12: why do we continually criticize the sectors to underwrite our
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Speaker 12: national prosperity.
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Speaker 11: Whether you like it or not, the mining and.
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Speaker 12: Resources sector has been the bedrock of Australia's economic success
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Speaker 12: for the past century.
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Speaker 2: Would you make of that? Well?
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Speaker 11: I obviously agree. I think the first of let's start
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Speaker 11: with coalition because that's the easiest. That's just ranked populism
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Speaker 11: and it's bone headed for the Coalition to support some
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Speaker 11: sort of this investment process or breaking up of the supermarkets.
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Speaker 11: It doesn't make any sense. It will increase costs in
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Speaker 11: my view in the long run. In terms of the
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Speaker 11: broader issue, I mean, this government has failed. And it's
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Speaker 11: not just Albernize. We've always known he's not strong on policy.
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Speaker 11: He's been a slogan peddler for all the time I've
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Speaker 11: known him. He just throws slogans around. He would understand
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Speaker 11: the workings of the economy. What disappoints me and camera's
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Speaker 11: not going to be happy about this is the treasurer
24:19
Speaker 11: of the federal treasurer. I mean, he's a bloke that
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Speaker 11: did a PhD on keting and is systematically overturning every
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Speaker 11: single reform of the whore keeping government. He's gone the
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Speaker 11: opposite way. He's a combination like it's a Frankenstein government here,
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Speaker 11: a combination of Whitlam and the worst elements of Rudd.
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Speaker 11: And that means lower productivity. It means we're going to
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Speaker 11: have a less efficient economy and lower living standards. That's
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Speaker 11: where the problem is. And thank god business has finally
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Speaker 11: got off of its backside and started criticizing rather than
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Speaker 11: being swamped by DEI and all of the genders they've had.
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Speaker 2: In the past. Well, with the set now spontaneously combin
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Speaker 2: thing with that spray, I'll have to say goodbye to
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Speaker 2: both of you, Michael Costume, Cameron Milner, thank you so much,
25:06
Speaker 2: great segment, Thank you after the break.
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Speaker 1: There is something.
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Speaker 2: Oppressive in Victoria, and I have to say the appointment
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Speaker 2: of the latest judge is to me a very worrying sign.
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Speaker 2: I want to talk about Victoria's newest judge. There's something
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Speaker 2: very fishy going on with Victoria. So there's a club
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Speaker 2: of judges and police under an authoritarian labor government, a cabal,
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Speaker 2: not a conspiracy, more like a dangerous group think. At
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Speaker 2: last that I mentioned one example, how police seemed uninterested
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Speaker 2: in investigating how Daniel andrew Is, the former premier, and
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Speaker 2: his wife who was apparently driving hit a fifteen year
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Speaker 2: old cyclist and put him in hospital. Not even a
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Speaker 2: breath test case closed that night. But I want to
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Speaker 2: talk now about the latest judge appointed bout Victoria's labor government,
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Speaker 2: which again makes me wonder about what seems to me
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Speaker 2: to be this very clubby Victoria. This since to me
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Speaker 2: that new judge is Kerry Judd, and that had surprised
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Speaker 2: more people than me. For one judge last year rejected
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Speaker 2: the request of former High Court Judge Jeffrey Nettle to
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Speaker 2: prosecute Victorian police who had unlawfully had a lawyer, Nicola Gobbo,
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Speaker 2: snitch on her own clients. Nettle threatened to quit in disgust.
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Speaker 2: But more astonishing to me is that it was this judge,
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Speaker 2: this new judge, who prosecuted the clearly innocent Cardinal George Pell.
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Speaker 2: Even appeared before the High Court to insist that dismiss
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Speaker 2: Pell's appeal against this conviction for supposedly abusing two teenage
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Speaker 2: boys at once in an open room straight after mass,
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Speaker 2: even though one of the boys denied any.
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Speaker 1: Assault had happened.
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Speaker 2: Pell was so obviously innocent that the High Court judges,
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Speaker 2: after embarrassing Judd with their questions, ruled seven judges to
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Speaker 2: nil to free Pell. He was innocent because, as I
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Speaker 2: had demonstrated before that on this show, neither Pell nor
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Speaker 2: his accuser could have been at the scene of the crime,
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Speaker 2: but the only time the crime could have been committed.
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Speaker 2: Daniel Andrews, a vicious and public pel critic, wouldn't accept
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Speaker 2: this that the court's, his courts, his Victorian courts, had
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Speaker 2: jailed and kept jailed an innocent man for more than
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Speaker 2: four hundred days. He tweeted to those brave victim survivors,
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Speaker 2: we see you, we hear you. Near is Judd now
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Speaker 2: promoted to be a judge herself? Wow? And Judd isn't
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Speaker 2: the only official involved in the persecution of George Pell,
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Speaker 2: that grotesque miscourage of justice who's since been promoted by Labor.
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Speaker 2: Shane Patton, who oversaw the police investigation, was later made
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Speaker 2: Chief Commissioner, even though all twenty six charges against Bell
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Speaker 2: were so ludicrous every one of them failed. I'm not
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Speaker 2: claiming there's a conspiracy of the powerful in Victoria, but
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Speaker 2: it does seem to me either's a go along culture
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Speaker 2: or a group think under an authoritarian labor government. And
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Speaker 2: to me that is deeply concerning. Join me as Rowan
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Speaker 2: Deane the Spectator, Australian hosts of Outsiders on Sky News
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Speaker 2: every Sunday at nine am, Rowan, can you believe that
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Speaker 2: not one single person who put George Pell in jail
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Speaker 2: for a crime he could not possibly have committed. Not
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Speaker 2: one has been sacked. Instead a police officer and a
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Speaker 2: prosecutor who oversaw some of that. They've actually been promoted
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Speaker 2: to judge and Chief Commissioner of Police by the government
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Speaker 2: that kept vilifying pell themselves or reasons, I can only guess.
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Speaker 6: Well, Andrew, the only thing surprising about this is that
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Speaker 6: you're surprised by it. We have seen in Victoria the
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Speaker 6: most authoritarian left wing government in Australia now for decades.
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Speaker 6: We saw how they behaved during COVID. It was a disgrace.
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Speaker 6: The world laughed and mocked us for it. All around
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Speaker 6: the world, increasingly left wing governments, or probably for the
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Speaker 6: last couple of decades, decided the best trick to play
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Speaker 6: was to stack the High courts, the Supreme Courts, the
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Speaker 6: top courts, the commissions, the various regulatory bodies, all of
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Speaker 6: these powerful positions that, as Kamala Harris likes to boast,
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Speaker 6: with a stroke of a pen, can put someone behind
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Speaker 6: jail for months on end. They stacked these people with
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Speaker 6: left wingers, of people of their own political persuasion. Now
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Speaker 6: I don't know if Kerry Judd is particularly of a
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Speaker 6: left wing persuasion, but it's clearly she is on the
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Speaker 6: same way of thinking as you said as the Dan
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Speaker 6: Andrews slash just into Alan government. So what as quick
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Speaker 6: as you like, into the Supreme Court. You will remember
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Speaker 6: I don't need to tell you, Andrew, that it was
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Speaker 6: the Victorian Supreme Court, apart from one brave man who dissented,
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Speaker 6: who went along with the whole ludicrous George Pell prosecution
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Speaker 6: at a time when you did such a brilliant job
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Speaker 6: of pointing out that you know it was a complete nonsense,
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Speaker 6: the whole thing, and Australia can see that. But there's
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Speaker 6: two problems here, Andrew. The first is that left wing
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Speaker 6: authoritarian governments are increasingly doing this, no more so than
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Speaker 6: in America, where the justice system has been weaponized by
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Speaker 6: the left to the extent that they have four separate
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Speaker 6: prosecutions going after Donald Trump, all of them equally spurious,
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Speaker 6: all of them as silly as the George Pell decision,
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Speaker 6: and all of them purely politically motivated.
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Speaker 1: So what do we do.
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Speaker 6: We have a situation now around the world Britain, the
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Speaker 6: judges are a joke, you know, sending people to jail
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Speaker 6: for the wrong tweet or for mispron pronouning someone or other.
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Speaker 6: And this is all left wing cultural war stuff that
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Speaker 6: the left now dominates the court rooms. And the only
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Speaker 6: antidote to this, Andrew, is for the conservative side of
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Speaker 6: politics to start doing the same. And sadly, the Coalition
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Speaker 6: in eleven years of government to appointed just as many
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Speaker 6: woe idiots to all these not all of them, not exclusively.
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Speaker 6: There are a few good appointments, but by and large
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Speaker 6: they went along with the prevailing woke orthodoxy. We need
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Speaker 6: to see a Dutton government starting to appoint seriously conservative
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Speaker 6: minds into these powerful positions.
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Speaker 2: Rowin meanwhile, bad news for global warming alarmists. The ABC
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Speaker 2: has had to report that Adelaide is in fact just
31:26
Speaker 2: recorded its coldest September day in one hundred years. But
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Speaker 2: rowan a curious thing that I asked you to explain
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Speaker 2: for us. The ABC report, for some reason, in mentioning this,
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Speaker 2: does not mention global warming or climate change even once.
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Speaker 2: Why would that be?
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Speaker 6: Well, we're waiting for Antonio Guitarists, the head of the UN,
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Speaker 6: to get out there and say the era of the
31:54
Speaker 6: global the fre easing has arrived. But I think we'll
31:58
Speaker 6: be holding our breath for a while waiting for that.
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Speaker 6: It's such a joke. This comes hard on the heels,
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Speaker 6: of course of July. One morning in July here in
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Speaker 6: New South Wales cold a July morning, whatever it was
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Speaker 6: in fifty years or whatever, it was minus ten degrees somewhere.
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Speaker 13: Other this.
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Speaker 6: The joke of the whole global warming fiasco is whenever
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Speaker 6: there's anything a warm day, slightly warm day, temperatures, but
32:22
Speaker 6: there's a bit of a breeze, you know, it might
32:24
Speaker 6: be a cyclone like we've never had those before. Or
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Speaker 6: it might be a flood we've never had.
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Speaker 1: That, or a bushfire. Whatever it might be, any.
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Speaker 6: Weather event, it can be immediately put down to its
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Speaker 6: global warming. The one thing they struggle with, although they
32:38
Speaker 6: have tried, Andrew, is to say that in a global
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Speaker 6: warming environment, you're going to get colder days and colder
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Speaker 6: months because and then they never explain why. But the
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Speaker 6: global warming culp is so indoctrinated that they literally will
32:52
Speaker 6: believe that colder weather equals warmer weather and so on.
32:55
Speaker 6: But the reality here is, Andrew, is that the public,
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Speaker 6: Joe public, have to look out the window to realize
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Speaker 6: what nonsense we are being fed by Chris Bow and
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Speaker 6: his acolytes there about global warming, about the dangers of
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Speaker 6: global warming, global boiling, global heating, whatever they want to
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Speaker 6: call it. As I'm not a scientist, I very quickly
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Speaker 6: to say that, but I am a common sense person
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Speaker 6: with a logical brain, and my logical brain says.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
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Speaker 6: If the world is getting hotter and hotter and hotter
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Speaker 6: and hotter year on year on year on year, I
33:28
Speaker 6: can't buy the fact that we've got a cold a month.
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Speaker 1: Or a colder day or a cold or whatever.
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Speaker 13: Well we've had there.
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Speaker 2: Been I think there has been some warming trend. There's
33:36
Speaker 2: been some warming trem But I would say this to
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Speaker 2: the good people of Adelaide, would you rather an absolutely
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Speaker 2: freezing day like that or a bit of warmth in
33:43
Speaker 2: your life? Global warming may actually not be that bad
33:48
Speaker 2: around Dean, Thanks a lot for your time. Row mentioned
33:52
Speaker 2: Donald Trump. Here's the thing that's been puzzling me. Does
33:56
Speaker 2: it seem strange to you that tried to shoot him
34:01
Speaker 2: this week was from out of state, not from Florida.
34:06
Speaker 1: He knew where and when Donald.
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Speaker 2: Trump would go to play golf that day and where
34:12
Speaker 2: he could get a good shot at him. Acting alone. Well,
34:18
Speaker 2: I think we need to know more after the break
34:20
Speaker 2: the ABC court train yet another trick to smear a
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Speaker 2: soldier in a scandal that's now got even the Albanezy
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Speaker 2: government demanding an explanation from this out of controlled, taxpayer
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Speaker 2: funded embarrassment called the ABC. This ABC scandal has just
34:40
Speaker 2: got even worse. Can you believe it? Another incredible bit
34:43
Speaker 2: of dishonest editing comes out today Now one of the
34:48
Speaker 2: Albanezi government's better ministers is the Marning answers from the ABC. Now,
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Speaker 2: I've told you already how the ABC stitch up Special
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Speaker 2: Forces soldier Heston Russell him here on the show adding
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Speaker 2: the sound of gunfire to helmet vision film by his
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Speaker 2: union in Afghanistan, and that made it seem like he
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Speaker 2: was actually firing at unarmed civilians, like it was some
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Speaker 2: kind of war criminal. Totally false. In fact, the ABC
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Speaker 2: last year to pay Russell nearly four hundred thousand dollars
35:16
Speaker 2: for falsely accusing of ordering the execution of an Afghan prisoner.
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Speaker 2: The ABC has since deleted that audio while in investigates,
35:24
Speaker 2: but now fresh claims of dodgy dealings. The reporter in
35:28
Speaker 2: these reports, Mark Willersey, in his researchers rang up an
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Speaker 2: American called britt Hamilton, who actually served with Russell, and
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Speaker 2: Willisey asked him to come on the show for a
35:39
Speaker 2: positive story, which this guy was very pleased to do,
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Speaker 2: not suspecting anything. Here's some of their phone call.
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Speaker 14: I am interested in doing something more broadly about the
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Speaker 14: positive sort of relationship you know that developed in twenty eleven,
35:55
Speaker 14: that continued and then through to twenty twelve, about you know,
35:59
Speaker 14: the actual achieve movements you guys wrapped up with the commandos.
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Speaker 14: At some point, I'm not too interested in going down
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Speaker 14: the road of this negative stuff. Can if anything is
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Speaker 14: somebody could capture the successors that we had.
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Speaker 2: Now. During their pre recorded interviews that followed that call,
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Speaker 2: Willisie asked Hamilton casually propos of nothing at all. Should
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Speaker 2: war crimes be investigated at Hamilton actress, of course they should, gotcha.
36:30
Speaker 2: Imagine Hamilton's horror when he saw how Willison then use
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Speaker 2: that one comment as if Hamilton was actually condemning Russell
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Speaker 2: and his unit when he actually praised them. This is
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Speaker 2: from Mark Willis's report in seven thirty.
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Speaker 5: The commandos of Task for sixty six were also there
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Speaker 5: to lay the groundwork for a peaceful and politically stable Afghanistan.
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Speaker 5: But in a war with no clear battle lines, it
36:55
Speaker 5: appears those objectives may have been forgotten by a handful
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Speaker 5: of soldiers.
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Speaker 11: Hello, Sis, Yes, they should definitely be investigated.
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Speaker 1: We've got to be able to show that we've held
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Speaker 1: our soldiers accountable.
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Speaker 2: Sis Hamilton, that guy you just saw the ABC manipulated
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Speaker 2: my soundback. The story should absolutely be taken down, and
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Speaker 2: it should be taken down with an apology and our communications.
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Speaker 2: Miss Michelle Roland is rightly demanding answers.
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Speaker 15: Wilside acknowledge that the ABC has operational and editorial independence.
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Speaker 15: These are questions for the ABC to answer. I will
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Speaker 15: be seeking a briefing from the ABC on this issue
37:39
Speaker 15: because you are absolutely right Australians need to have trust
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Speaker 15: in their national broadcaster.
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Speaker 2: Joining me, Sophie Elsworth, media writer of Australian newspaper. Sophie,
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Speaker 2: you've been demanding answers yourself of the ABC. What luck
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Speaker 2: have you had?
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Speaker 16: Well, Andrew, As you know, it's often very difficult to
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Speaker 16: get whole of the ABC to respond to issues when
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Speaker 16: they do make mistakes. Coincidentally, yesterday I attended a Melbourne
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Speaker 16: Press Club event here in Melbourne and Justin Stevens, the
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Speaker 16: ABC News boss, was giving an address at that function,
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Speaker 16: so I had the perfect opportunity to ask him many
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Speaker 16: questions about this.
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Speaker 7: Now.
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Speaker 16: He basically said at this event, this issues with Heston.
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Speaker 1: Russell should not have occurred.
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Speaker 16: In regards to the Spotlight episode that aired these issues
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Speaker 16: with the footage, he said, there is an investigation of
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Speaker 16: foot as we know, but he wasn't going to preempt
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Speaker 16: what was to be determined in that investigation. When I
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Speaker 16: asked him if whether or not the ABC would apologize
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Speaker 16: to Heston Russell, he certainly did not say that they
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Speaker 16: would be, and reminding viewers Andrew. Last year, when Heston
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Speaker 16: Russell won his defamation action against the ABC, the ABC
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Speaker 16: Managing Director David Anderson said it sentate estimates he would
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Speaker 16: not be apologizing to Heston Russell. So it takes an
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Speaker 16: almighty stuff up for the ABC to say the word sorry.
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Speaker 2: But why not? Why no apology?
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Speaker 16: Well it seems a very difficult word for them to say.
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Speaker 16: I mean, they lost that defamation action, as I said,
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Speaker 16: by Heston Russell, that would have been the perfect time
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Speaker 16: to apologize to him. And then more allegations are being
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Speaker 16: aired with this doctored footage. Now, I did speak to
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Speaker 16: Justin Stevens about this and I said, look, there is
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Speaker 16: doctored audio and it's been removed by the ABC. He
39:47
Speaker 16: actually pulled me up on my language using the word
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Speaker 16: doctor and said that's an extremely serious allegation to make
39:55
Speaker 16: against a journalist.
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Speaker 17: Now, I would.
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Speaker 16: Argue it is doctored because they there's an error here
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Speaker 16: and they've removed that footage with the altered audio from
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Speaker 16: their website.
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Speaker 1: So I don't know how else.
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Speaker 16: You could explain it then using the word doctored.
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Speaker 2: Well, and you didn't make it against the journalists, You've
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Speaker 2: just stopped it. They say it wasn't the journalist's fault.
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Speaker 2: I must say, though these latest allegations, the misuse of
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Speaker 2: that quote, I think that's very much is the journalists
40:27
Speaker 2: and produces a fault. And there's something really weird went
40:32
Speaker 2: on that they had no idea how it was all
40:34
Speaker 2: being used and cut up. But what do you think
40:36
Speaker 2: went on there?
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Speaker 16: Well, this remains a mystery. Andrew and the ABC need
40:44
Speaker 16: to speed this up and give answers pretty quickly.
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Speaker 1: As you saw.
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Speaker 16: Communications Minister Michelle Roland wants to know what on earth happened,
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Speaker 16: and there has to be trusted in the public broadcaster
40:57
Speaker 16: because we give them one billion dollars a year. We
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Speaker 16: have to trust the work that they do. And I
41:03
Speaker 16: will point out Media Watch on Monday night made no
41:07
Speaker 16: mention of this. Now they seem to struggle to stir
41:10
Speaker 16: turn stories around quickly. Andrew when this broke on Spotlight
41:15
Speaker 16: on Sunday night on Channel seven, they had twenty four
41:17
Speaker 16: hours to do something on Media Watch and there was
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Speaker 16: nothing about this. So let's see what happens.
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Speaker 2: My show appears before THEIRS. I have probably eleven fewer
41:29
Speaker 2: staff and go more than twice as long, and I
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Speaker 2: had the story and they didn't.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
41:35
Speaker 2: What a good pickup. So Fhi ells with thanks for
41:37
Speaker 2: your time. After the break, the panel in a very
41:42
Speaker 2: sticky move by the Albanize government that's going to let
41:44
Speaker 2: him more illegal immigrants charge with crimes walk out streets.
41:48
Speaker 2: No wonder that the government didn't tell you. The Elders
41:56
Speaker 2: government has pulled us swiftly that I fear will leave
41:59
Speaker 2: us less safe, very quietly, no announcement. It canceled the
42:03
Speaker 2: legal direction first issued by Scott Morrison when he was
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Speaker 2: Immigration Minister, and it's only just come to light. This
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Speaker 2: governor's canceled what's called Direction sixty three. And what that
42:14
Speaker 2: says is that Istralian governor has a low tolerance with
42:17
Speaker 2: criminal behavior but non citizens we're in the Istralian community
42:20
Speaker 2: on a temporary basis, and goes on, if you break
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Speaker 2: the law, your visa is canceled out you go. It
42:25
Speaker 2: also says that if you even charged with the crime,
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Speaker 2: your visa is canceled. The libertarians said, oh, that's terrible.
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Speaker 2: What about the presumption of innocence? But I've looked through
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Speaker 2: that direction and seen that it also says if you
42:38
Speaker 2: were then found innocent, you get the visa back. Yet
42:42
Speaker 2: this government has now canceled this direction for reasons that
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Speaker 2: Immigration mister Tourny Burke hasn't explained, but he does say, look,
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Speaker 2: don't what's the fust I still have the power to
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Speaker 2: intervene if I want and throw them out if he wants.
42:56
Speaker 2: But the direction to other decision makers that is gone,
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Speaker 2: join me is Freeder liberty in p Garth Hamilton Lewis
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Speaker 2: Roberts SKA news contributor Gath what is going on?
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Speaker 18: Well, look, you'll hear people like me on your show
43:12
Speaker 18: regularly conservatives tell you that Labor is soft on crime,
43:16
Speaker 18: and it's not without evidence that we say things like this,
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Speaker 18: and this is one of his egregious examples of Labor
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Speaker 18: being very soft on crime.
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Speaker 13: You know there's something here, Andrew.
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Speaker 18: If we think back about the state that the Immigration
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Speaker 18: Department was in under Minister Giles, there was a terrible
43:33
Speaker 18: state of affairs there, but largely that was a matter
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Speaker 18: of competence, you know, that was.
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Speaker 13: That was stuff ups, mistakes. This is deliberate.
43:42
Speaker 18: This is a deliberate step by the new minister taking
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Speaker 18: Australia down a path completely opposed to where we work.
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Speaker 13: The idea that you.
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Speaker 18: Can come here on a visa commit a crime and
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Speaker 18: that's okay.
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Speaker 13: You're not going to You're not gonna be deported change.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, no, Louis.
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Speaker 13: It's very very clear message to people.
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Speaker 18: We were saying to people very clearly, if you did this,
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Speaker 18: your visa would be revoked.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Luis, I don't quite get it. What do
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Speaker 2: you make of it?
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Speaker 17: Well, it's an obscene decision, Andrew. I mean, whose rights
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Speaker 17: are we more concerned about here? People on bridging visas
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Speaker 17: who either have been charged with the crime or may
44:22
Speaker 17: have committed a crime, or our right to live in
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Speaker 17: a society where we're not going to be a victim
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Speaker 17: of a crime. I think anyone who's on a visa
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Speaker 17: and they're not behaving in a way that we want
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Speaker 17: to in this society should be asked to leave the country.
44:34
Speaker 17: I mean the presumption of innocence. Yes, that's in our
44:37
Speaker 17: legal system, but what about our rights as people to
44:41
Speaker 17: live safely and also the fact that it was so
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Speaker 17: secret and to the point we've already made about being
44:46
Speaker 17: soft on crime. It's a very sort of lukewarm border
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Speaker 17: approach as well to criminal gangs who think, great, we'll
44:52
Speaker 17: go to Australia if we commit a crime, we won't
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Speaker 17: be kicked out because they're too worried about offending us.
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Speaker 17: It's just ridiculous.
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Speaker 2: Look, I really don't get it. I'd love to hear
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Speaker 2: an explanation. But the fact that it's all being kept
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Speaker 2: hush hush suggests that the Labor government is embarrassed by it. Darth,
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Speaker 2: I see that Scotland has said as confirmed now what
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Speaker 2: I said was in the wins earlier this year. It's
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Speaker 2: going to hold the Comonwelth Games. The Victoria's Labor government
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Speaker 2: said it couldn't afford and which it said would cost
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Speaker 2: up to.
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Speaker 1: Seven billion dollars.
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Speaker 2: But Scotland's going to essentially host it for free. It's
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Speaker 2: got a host a stripped down version and intends sports
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Speaker 2: and pay for almost every cent of it with money
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Speaker 2: actually taken from the Victorian government in the compensation Victoria
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Speaker 2: had to pay for canceling, plus a do nature from
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Speaker 2: our come Wealth Games Federation. It strikes me so incredibly
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Speaker 2: damning of Australia, particularly Victorian government. We're paying for their
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Speaker 2: games because we're too hopeless with money.
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Speaker 18: As an extraordinary look good on Scotland. I don't think
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Speaker 18: history's going to look too kindly upon that period of
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Speaker 18: government of Victorians.
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Speaker 13: Scene. You hear things are bad down there.
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Speaker 18: I've got to say this though, Andrew, I am concerned
46:06
Speaker 18: as a Queenslander watching what's happening in Queensland, and I
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Speaker 18: hope this isn't a forerunner of what we're going to
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Speaker 18: see here. Queensland government here has completely mismanaged the Olympic
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Speaker 18: Games in Brisbane. It's a real sorry state of affairs
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Speaker 18: and maybe this shows just how bad things can get.
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Speaker 18: Not only can you lose the games like Victoria have
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Speaker 18: with the Commonwealth Games, you can pay someone else to
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Speaker 18: host it for you. I mean, that is the most
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Speaker 18: terrible defeat I can think of, and I feel sorry
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Speaker 18: for Victorian taxpayers who are having to sit back and
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Speaker 18: just accept this is the way things are.
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Speaker 2: So true. But honestly, Louis, this is astonishing. It's an
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Speaker 2: advertisent to the world. How financially incompetent at least Victoria
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Speaker 2: is it?
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Speaker 13: Sure is?
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Speaker 17: And that four hundred twenty five million we're apparently handing
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Speaker 17: to Scotland to run they and host the Commonwealth Games,
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Speaker 17: why an't we invest in that in grassroots sports for
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Speaker 17: our own athletes in Australia. And that whole thing was overlooked.
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Speaker 17: I've found when Andrew, who has been the Commonwealth Game
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Speaker 17: saying there was a cost blowout aka mismanaging by his government,
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Speaker 17: is those hopes and dreams of the athletes were completely
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Speaker 17: crushed and we should be investing in grassroom sports.
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Speaker 1: That's where the money should be going.
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Speaker 17: And yes, it's great that Scotland's picked it up, but
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Speaker 17: what about our athletes at home? What has been done
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Speaker 17: for them?
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Speaker 2: Louis had to go further and say, look, if Scotland
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Speaker 2: could make a compromise, say look, we're going to cut
47:24
Speaker 2: out some of this rubbish sport. The Olympic should have
47:27
Speaker 2: cut out breakdancing for a start. We'll just have ten
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Speaker 2: sports and we can do it for next to nothing.
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Speaker 2: Why didn't occur to the Victorian government?
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Speaker 17: Exactly? Yes, And look I think Scotland should put its
47:37
Speaker 17: hand in its pocket to contribute to this, but clearly
47:39
Speaker 17: they don't have to, so why should they. They're getting
47:41
Speaker 17: it basically for free. We're paying for it.
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Speaker 2: Well, Garthur Hamilton is a Scottish name, isn't it. They've
47:48
Speaker 2: always been canny with money.
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Speaker 18: Well heah, look, I'm sure the Scots won't make a
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Speaker 18: mess of it like this. It's been one of the
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Speaker 18: few traits that I hope I've been handed down with
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Speaker 18: that be quite tight when it comes to the.
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Speaker 13: Money coming out. Goodness me, Victoria could have done with that.
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Speaker 2: Oh good on you, Luis Robert Scarth Hamilton, Thank you
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Speaker 2: so much to you both. That's it for me. Coming
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Speaker 2: up next is Shrry Markson, But for me it's good night.