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Hour 2 - A Democrat Pollster Surprise · The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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  Speaker 1: Second hour, Clay and Buck kicks off now. Thanks for
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  Speaker 1: being here with us, everybody. And fighting fraud, very important.
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  Speaker 1: Got to be fighting the fraud. A lot of fraudsters
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  Speaker 1: out there. They're doing bad things to bad people, the fraudsters.
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  Speaker 1: And the Trump administration has decided enough is enough. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to get into some of those details here in
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  Speaker 1: a second. In the meantime, I believe right now J.D. Vance...
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  Speaker 1: son of native son of ohio is in ohio rallying
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  Speaker 1: the crowd get them fired up you guys want to
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  Speaker 1: go to it for a second take us to the
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  Speaker 1: campaign trail for a minute here's jd vance the vice
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  Speaker 1: president in ohio.
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  Speaker 2: A couple of weeks ago eric and i visited price
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  Speaker 2: hill chile of course any west sider would know about
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  Speaker 2: price hill chile and i have to say eric you
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  Speaker 2: made me look pretty good because i think the vice
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  Speaker 2: president was better at pouring a beer than eric convoy was.
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  Speaker 1: But more importantly, Eric is a fighter.
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  Speaker 2: He is a fighter for the people of the United
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  Speaker 2: States of America.
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  Speaker 3: He's been a.
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  Speaker 1: Fighter in the Air Force.
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  Speaker 2: And he is going to fight for the people of
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  Speaker 2: the First District every single day in Washington, D.C. Eric's
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  Speaker 2: going to defend your tax cuts. Eric is going to
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  Speaker 2: fight for safe streets. And most importantly, he is going
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  Speaker 2: to fight for a secure southern border to stop the
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  Speaker 2: poison from coming into our communities. And he's going to
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  Speaker 2: stop the Democrats from undoing the incredible progress that we've
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  Speaker 2: made over the last 20 months. And to the folks
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  Speaker 2: from the first district, let me tell you this. I
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  Speaker 2: think you deserve a change because look at what you're
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  Speaker 2: dealing with in your current congressman, a far left Democrat
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  Speaker 2: by the name of Greg Lansman. Now, this is a
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  Speaker 2: man whose old boss and former mentor was Nancy Pelosi.
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  Speaker 1: And I happen to think.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll come back here for a second. We'll bring
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  Speaker 1: you more highlights from you. But I just were J.D.
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  Speaker 1: Vance live right there in Ohio addressing the various races
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  Speaker 1: that are underway and primary the primary concerns of the
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  Speaker 1: voters there. Ohio is tough right now. I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to sugarcoat it. I don't know what's going to happen,
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  Speaker 1: of course. These are all predictions. This is analysis, assessment.
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  Speaker 1: But there's some trends in Ohio right now with the numbers,
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  Speaker 1: but also the narrative that are difficult. I've seen there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of ink being spilled. There's quite a dust-up
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  Speaker 1: right now over the Vivek Ramaswamy ad that brings in
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  Speaker 1: Amy Acton's mom. And her mom, apparently the ad calls
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  Speaker 1: her a, says she's lying about some stuff from her life.
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  Speaker 1: And now people have said, no, there's court records. She's
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  Speaker 1: not lying. I mean, it's, it's, it's nasty in that
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  Speaker 1: race that I can say it's getting nasty in that race.
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  Speaker 1: But I think that's in part because for Vivek, they
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  Speaker 1: got to just, they got to shake up the board.
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  Speaker 1: They have to do something. He's, he's looking like he has,
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  Speaker 1: Quite a bit of catching up to do here. So
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  Speaker 1: we'll see how that one goes. As Trump says, we're
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  Speaker 1: going to look into it. But I am hopeful still
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  Speaker 1: that we will hold our ground in Ohio. I do
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  Speaker 1: not think it is going to be anything as good
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  Speaker 1: as what we saw in 2024. Honestly, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: anyone believes that in Ohio. I don't think anyone thinks
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  Speaker 1: that Ohio is going to go for the governor and
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  Speaker 1: the Senate seat in Republican hands by double digits. But
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  Speaker 1: if we could even hold Ohio by two, three points,
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  Speaker 1: a win is a win, as they say, and that
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  Speaker 1: would be a really important Senate seat that we're looking at.
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  Speaker 1: Something we talked about yesterday I just wanted to get
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  Speaker 1: to right here. Tomorrow we're going to be talking to Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Jay Bhattacharya, and we'll be able to address with him
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  Speaker 1: what's going on with the Maha side of things. I
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  Speaker 1: understand this is not that big on the campaign trail
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  Speaker 1: right now, but we have some RFK news. junior soundbites
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  Speaker 1: i wanted to share with you uh that that are
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  Speaker 1: in i think important not only as it pertains the
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  Speaker 1: election but just important for america period and there should
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  Speaker 1: be a renewed focus on some of this stuff remember
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  Speaker 1: so many of you uh were calling in in 2024
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  Speaker 1: and you're saying finally somebody in this case rfk jr
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  Speaker 1: is taking on the machinery of whether it's the FDA
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  Speaker 1: and big pharma and the vaccine makers and all these
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  Speaker 1: different things that, honestly, I think for a lot of
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  Speaker 1: different reasons, had been considered third rails in politics. You
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  Speaker 1: don't want to go near it. You don't want to
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  Speaker 1: get into it. A lot of pharma dollars going for
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  Speaker 1: different candidates. So RFK Jr. tackled these important problems because
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  Speaker 1: Americans should be, we should be as a people healthier
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  Speaker 1: than we are. We have the best health care actually
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  Speaker 1: in the world. for any kind of large country, believe
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  Speaker 1: it or not. But there's, there's a reason why if
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  Speaker 1: you're a Saudi Prince and you want heart surgery, you
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  Speaker 1: pretty much come here. You know, when it, when your
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  Speaker 1: life is on the line and you have the resources
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  Speaker 1: and you're from anywhere in the world, pretty good chance.
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  Speaker 1: If you have the ability to, you're going to have
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  Speaker 1: your brain tumor removed by a top surgeon here in America, right? There's,
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  Speaker 1: So that's something that I think often gets lost in
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  Speaker 1: this discussion. But we Americans should be healthier than we are,
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  Speaker 1: and there should be, in the aggregate, there should be
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  Speaker 1: more of a focus on this. And particularly for young men,
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that come together that I
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  Speaker 1: think have made young men feel, first of all, the
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  Speaker 1: anti-masculinity movement, the feminization of men, and it starts at
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  Speaker 1: a very young age, undermining young men in the classroom, telling,
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  Speaker 1: you know, boys, you know, should They should sit in
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  Speaker 1: the back and they raise their hand too much as
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  Speaker 1: we need to call on the girls more and all
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  Speaker 1: this sort of stuff. These have been trends out there
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  Speaker 1: for a long time and there's been real consequence from this.
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  Speaker 1: RFK Jr. here, this is cut to, he's talking about
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  Speaker 1: why young men in particular connect with the Maha movement.
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  Speaker 1: Play it.
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  Speaker 4: According to most recent polling, you and the Make America
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  Speaker 4: Healthy Again movement at large remain very popular with young men. Why?
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  Speaker 5: They realize they've been brainwashed for their entire lives from
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  Speaker 5: television and from other advertising sources that they've been eating.
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  Speaker 5: of food that essentially is poison. And you see the,
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  Speaker 5: you know, even the ones who are not sort of
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  Speaker 5: devoted athletes to a single sport, they want to get healthy.
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  Speaker 5: Many of them are also, I think, disillusioned with the
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  Speaker 5: kind of gender ambiguities, and they want to be men,
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  Speaker 5: and they want to be in good shape.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They do, and they understand that masculinity in particular has
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  Speaker 1: been under assault and that health and vitality and strength,
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  Speaker 1: these are masculine virtues. Doesn't mean, and this is where
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  Speaker 1: you always get into this thing with the feminists, where
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  Speaker 1: you're saying women can't be strong or women shouldn't be healthy. No,
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  Speaker 1: of course not. Women should also, by the way, not
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  Speaker 1: only be healthy but strong. Weight training for women, one
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  Speaker 1: of the strangest but really enduring things health fallacies out
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  Speaker 1: there and i still come across this are uh young
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  Speaker 1: women who say well i would lift weights but i
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  Speaker 1: don't want to get bulky you hear people say this
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  Speaker 1: and it's so funny because then you'll talk you'll turn
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  Speaker 1: around and you'll talk to any gym bro any guy
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  Speaker 1: who spends a lot of time in the gym trying
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  Speaker 1: to get healthy and they'll say uh yeah we're we're
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  Speaker 1: really putting in a ton of work to try to
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  Speaker 1: get bigger, doing very specific things, and including very specific,
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  Speaker 1: shall we say, supplementation sometimes, the chance of a woman
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  Speaker 1: getting large from lifting weights that she's capable of lifting
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  Speaker 1: is basically zero. The only way that a woman is
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  Speaker 1: going to get large in the sense of gaining serious
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  Speaker 1: muscle mass is that will look bulky on her is
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  Speaker 1: if she started to take exogenous, like testosterone, steroids, things
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  Speaker 1: like that. And that's, that's comes with a lot of
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  Speaker 1: very apparent and nasty side effects for women. And they
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  Speaker 1: have to be careful when, even if women are doing
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  Speaker 1: like bodybuilding competitions, by the way, it's different as well
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  Speaker 1: in male, the, for guys, the open level bodybuilding is the,
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  Speaker 1: basically the biggest, strongest guy with the most muscles and,
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of the peak bodybuilding competition. For women, this
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  Speaker 1: will not surprise any of the guys, I think, or
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  Speaker 1: the girls out there. The most competitive and most popular
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  Speaker 1: bodybuilding competition is called level by sort of by aesthetic
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  Speaker 1: and by essentially by weight class, but really by aesthetic
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  Speaker 1: is called bikini because women who work out a lot
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  Speaker 1: are actually very lean. So these are things that still
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  Speaker 1: to this day, to this day, people don't even really know.
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  Speaker 1: And you go through the data, by the way, strength
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  Speaker 1: training for people as they get older is so, so
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  Speaker 1: important because that it affects whether you're likely to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: whether you have thigh strength and stability affects whether you're
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  Speaker 1: going to fall, whether you're going to break a hip,
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  Speaker 1: whether you can get on the ground, and play with
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  Speaker 1: your grandkids easily or not, whether you can get out
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  Speaker 1: of bed. All of this stuff is actually related to
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  Speaker 1: lean muscle mass tissue. Now, there's been a ton of
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  Speaker 1: podcasts and sort of fitness podcast bros and everything on
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  Speaker 1: this stuff. But for the Trump administration, this has also
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  Speaker 1: been there's been messaging around this and there's been effort
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  Speaker 1: to go after this. And I think RFK Jr. Look,
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  Speaker 1: we should have him. He was just talking to Will
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  Speaker 1: Kane there, our friend Will Kane on Fox. We should
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  Speaker 1: have him on this program and say, look, what are
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  Speaker 1: we accomplishing here? What are we doing? Because this stuff
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  Speaker 1: is all tied in. You can sit there and say, Buck,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to hear this isn't a Fitness Bro podcast,
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  Speaker 1: and it's not, and I'm not a fitness bro. But
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  Speaker 1: why am I hearing all this stuff? If you care
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  Speaker 1: about the debt, that's right. If you care about the
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  Speaker 1: national debt, believe it or not, you care about a
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  Speaker 1: lot about the health of the American people. And in fact,
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  Speaker 1: I would argue if you care about the American people,
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  Speaker 1: of course you have to care about their health. And
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  Speaker 1: we we entered a period of the last 50 years
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  Speaker 1: or so where there were extremely unhealthy habits that became
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  Speaker 1: very much corporatized and pushed. I'm amazed at how much
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  Speaker 1: I even think back to my youth and all of
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  Speaker 1: the commercials I would watch on. There were a lot
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  Speaker 1: of toys, which was fine. Toys are fine. But, you know,
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  Speaker 1: toy commercials for like micro machines and things like that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, what were they called? Thundercats. I was a
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  Speaker 1: big Thundercats guy. big into the Thundercats, but also just
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  Speaker 1: all the junk food. You would turn on, if you're
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  Speaker 1: watching Saturday morning cartoons, they're always trying to, things like
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  Speaker 1: these breakfast cereals. I thought, and I wasn't alone, I
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  Speaker 1: thought breakfast cereal was good for you. So think about
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  Speaker 1: how much you saw commercials when you were a kid uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, tricks is for kids. I can remember the
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  Speaker 1: commercials with all these cartoon characters and they're, they're just
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  Speaker 1: selling you basically shelf stable corn, uh, you know, uh,
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  Speaker 1: corn product and, or, you know, corn residue and sugar.
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  Speaker 1: It's really just sugar, the whole thing. You're just eating
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  Speaker 1: sugar in the morning. And that's what we were told
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  Speaker 1: was a healthy, a healthy breakfast. Yeah. Maybe they might
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  Speaker 1: throw like a couple of slices of, uh, of, strawberry
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  Speaker 1: along the side you're supposed to have with your cornflakes.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is just, this stuff is all trash
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  Speaker 1: for you over long-term health-wise. It just is. This is
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  Speaker 1: not good. And, I mean, I'll never forget in my
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  Speaker 1: school growing up, a Catholic school I went to in Manhattan,
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  Speaker 1: it's called St. David's, they wouldn't serve as butter because
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  Speaker 1: they served margarine. The margarine that they served, and I
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  Speaker 1: never ate it because it looked disgusting. The margarine they
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  Speaker 1: served looked like something you could have used to, like,
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  Speaker 1: Plug up your, you know, your plumbing under your sink.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it was just gross. And that was being
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  Speaker 1: we were told that was healthier. That was healthy for you.
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  Speaker 1: So there's so much work that needs to be done
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  Speaker 1: on this. And also, I just think that a big
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  Speaker 1: part of our health care system needs to be much more. Well,
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  Speaker 1: not just health care system, but health health for the
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  Speaker 1: American people. You need to take an active role in
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  Speaker 1: this stuff. If you just do what feels good and
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  Speaker 1: what you're told to do and you don't actually pay attention.
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  Speaker 1: And you think that having a little plastic card that
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  Speaker 1: says you have insurance is going to make you healthy.
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  Speaker 1: You have another thing coming. And I think a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people have found this out the hard way. And
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  Speaker 1: now they're on a whole range of different prescription medications
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  Speaker 1: that they have to be on. And I mean a
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  Speaker 1: lot of them, not one or two. For a long, long,
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  Speaker 1: long time. By the way, RFK also talked about the
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  Speaker 1: peptide issue, which we brought up on the show. I
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  Speaker 1: want to play this. We'll get into commercial break in
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  Speaker 1: a second, but play cut one.
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  Speaker 5: Well, right now, most or virtually all peptides are illegal,
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  Speaker 5: which means that Americans are still buying them. They're buying
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  Speaker 5: between one and a half and three billion dollars worth
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  Speaker 5: of peptides a year. They're buying them all off the
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  Speaker 5: gray market or black market. So they're coming from Chinese
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  Speaker 5: firms mainly, some in India, and then a few scattered
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  Speaker 5: one in other countries. But there is no FDA inspection.
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  Speaker 5: We have no idea what they're getting. There's no way
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  Speaker 5: for them to know what they're getting. And there's been
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  Speaker 5: a lot of bad reports about adulterants and, you know,
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  Speaker 5: actually products that have no active ingredient in them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a big problem. Where's the FDA on this one?
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  Speaker 1: Where is the science? So the science, where is the science,
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  Speaker 1: so to speak, because it's a multibillion dollar market and
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  Speaker 1: people are taking this stuff all the time, all over
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  Speaker 1: the place. I think Miami probably more so than I
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  Speaker 1: live a little bit in the it is like the
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  Speaker 1: Wild West, if you will, of peptide ville. Um, but it's,
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  Speaker 1: it's a lot of places all over the country. I
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  Speaker 1: know a lot of people in Texas who, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: getting peptides on the gray market. And I know there
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  Speaker 1: are different compounding pharmacies that make this stuff in Texas
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  Speaker 1: and all, all over the country, this is happening. So
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  Speaker 1: if it's a safety issue, then they should address the
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  Speaker 1: safety issue. They should also say we can make them
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  Speaker 1: here in this country. You know why we can't lawsuits.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone's scared of being, I tweeted about this last night.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone's scared of being sued for everything now. The trial
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  Speaker 1: lawyers are strangling this country because there's not enough clear
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  Speaker 1: protection for good faith action, loser pays, all these things.
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  Speaker 1: That's a bigger discussion, a separate discussion, but it's related
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  Speaker 1: to all this stuff. So we're inviting RFK Jr. on,
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  Speaker 1: and obviously we have Dr. J Bhattacharya on tomorrow. We
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  Speaker 1: can talk to him about this. But they need to
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  Speaker 1: stop saying it has to be studied. Do the study, guys.
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  Speaker 1: Tell us what's going on here. Put information out for
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  Speaker 1: the public so informed decisions can be made, and let's
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  Speaker 1: allow American– pharmacies to make this stuff. At least if
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  Speaker 1: it's not harmful, that's a really good step. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if you're getting something that's a precursors from China, who
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  Speaker 1: knows what you're getting? And that's all over the place
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Lucky Charms tastes good, but not good for you.
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  Speaker 1: Trump weighed in on the Houston versus Brown Senate race
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  Speaker 1: in Ohio in an interesting way. This is cut 35.
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  Speaker 1: Listen to this.
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  Speaker 7: So he's over here.
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  Speaker 6: I'm over here.
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  Speaker 7: And I'm studying his body. I've never studied the body
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  Speaker 7: of a man before.
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  Speaker 1: It's not my thing.
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  Speaker 7: Nothing wrong with it, of course. I always proceeded by
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  Speaker 7: saying nothing wrong. But it's never been my thing, to
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  Speaker 7: be honest with you.
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  Speaker 1: But I looked at his ass.
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  Speaker 7: And then I looked at his legs and I said,
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  Speaker 7: his ass is like, it's like a pile of muscle.
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  Speaker 7: Then I looked at his legs and I said, man,
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  Speaker 7: his feet are big. Then I looked at his shoulders
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  Speaker 7: and I tapped him on the shoulder and it actually
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  Speaker 7: hurt my hand.
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  Speaker 1: It was like a piece of steel. I said, this
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  Speaker 1: Focusing back in on the election, my friends. Welcome to
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  Speaker 1: Clay and Buck Hour 2 with our friend Doug Schoen,
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  Speaker 1: longtime Democratic strategist, pollster, and political analyst. More than 40
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: years of experience as a pollster and political consultant. He
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: served as an advisor to Bill Clinton and to the
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: presidential campaign of Michael Bloomberg. He knows this game. He
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: knows these numbers. Doug, I want to hand you, we
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: covered some of the early numbers, but I want your
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: take on it. How's it looking? Who's up? Who's down?
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  Speaker 1: Where's it going?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think the Democrats have a clear lead in
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  Speaker 4: the House, and I'd be very surprised if they don't
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: win a narrow majority there. In the Senate, Most of
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: the key races are within the margin of error. Races
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: like Texas, Ohio, even Kansas have shown either a tie
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: or a slight Democratic lead consistently, but by no means
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: enough that those races can be called. I should add
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: Maine and probably Minnesota to that. list as well. The
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: problem my party, the Democrats have, is while people are
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: upset with Trump and the Trump administration, they don't necessarily
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: see the Democrats buck as much better. And in a
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: lot of states where the Democrats are doing pretty well,
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: the Democratic image is less good than the Republican image.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: So we are really in a dynamic, competitive situation today.
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  Speaker 1: Do you see any place, any race in particular, where the,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: such as it is, the polling conventional wisdom or the
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: aggregate of polls that's out there, you're just not buying it?
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, the example that we always talk about is
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: when Seltzer came out with her Iowa poll in 24,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Clay and I said it at the time, and we said,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: no way. Okay, there's just no way Kamala's up 11.
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  Speaker 1: And as we all know where that one ended. You
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 4: I apologize for interrupting. But what I was going to
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: say is I've worked in Kansas before. I've worked for
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: Democrats there who thought they were competitive or independents who
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: thought they were competitive. The Republican base is pretty strong there. Obviously,
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: Roger Marshall has problems, both politically and personally. But if
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: I had to bet he'll pull out a narrow victory,
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: my sense is The polls are exaggerating ever so slightly
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Adam Hamilton's support. But again, that remains within the margin
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: of error. But I bet on the Republicans there. Lesser extent, Texas. Texas, again,
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: has a solid Republican lean to it. My hesitancy is
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: Tallarico has run a very good campaign and Paxton hasn't.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: has until recently, with the infusion of resources, run a
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: more problematic effort that until, again, Elon Musk and the
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: National Party came in, was very much underfunded. So, again,
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: I guess if I had to bet, I would bet
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  Speaker 4: on Paxton, but I'm a little more sure for the
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  Speaker 4: Republicans of Kansas than Texas. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: So far, I was pulling up those Texas numbers you're talking.
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  Speaker 1: That was the next thing I was going to ask
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  Speaker 1: you about. So you read my mind, Doug. We're speaking
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: to Doug Schoen, by the way, everybody who's been in
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: the polling and political strategy game for 40 years. And
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: and we have early Texas voting off to, I think,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: a record start statewide. Day one in-person turnout was roughly
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: seven hundred and eighty thousand I'm seeing here.
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  Speaker 3: And.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: 700, trackers show roughly 700 to 800,000 total ballots statewide,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: record 19 million registered voters. So it's early days there.
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  Speaker 1: Are we able to get any sense of how this
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  Speaker 1: compares to other cycles with the early voting in Texas?
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  Speaker 1: Or is it honestly just too much of a snapshot
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  Speaker 1: to really know?
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  Speaker 4: It's too much of a snapshot. It's too early. I
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: think we'll have a sense next week as to where
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: we stand, who's voting. where the votes are coming from.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: But on day one, you really, you can't draw any
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: meaningful conclusions.
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  Speaker 1: And talk to me about Maine and New Hampshire, because
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I feel like those are two of the not sleepers
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: in this. Obviously, there are Senate seats, very important races,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: but they're not getting the national headlines that particularly Michigan
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: and Texas have just been front and center in the
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: news cycle for a couple of months now. Talk to
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  Speaker 1: me about Maine and New Hampshire, what you're seeing there,
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  Speaker 1: what we can extrapolate based on what we know so far.
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  Speaker 4: Let me start with New Hampshire because I think that's
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: more straightforward. I think Pappas is four to six points ahead.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: I know people I've been saying Sununu is going to
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: pull an upset. I tend to doubt it. I think
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: the Democrats will hold New Hampshire. Maine is a little
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: bit more complicated. Jackson has had anywhere from a one
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: to two point lead, which is statistically meaningless. Susan Collins
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: is a very good closer. Jackson is a very far
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: left candidate. I think if there's going to be something
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: that defies the conventional wisdom, it would be much more
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: likely Maine than New Hampshire.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I would agree. I agree with you on that, by
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: the way. I feel like Susan Collins will get it done. Sununu,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: even though he's a really well-known name in the state
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: for obvious reasons, and I think he's run a very
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: smart campaign in that it's a New Hampshire-first campaign. He's
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: really focused in on just a little bit hard there
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: given this cycle. One that Clay would want me to
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: ask you about, by the way, Michelle Tafoya in Minnesota.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: People just assume Minnesota, it's so blue, it's so blue.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: How could anybody? I've been seeing numbers that indicate it's
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: definitely a race. I mean, maybe it's a point or
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: two apart, but it's a race. What can you tell us?
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  Speaker 4: It's a three-point race from what I can tell. Tafoya
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: is outpolling Republicans. I think the massive fraud from the
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Somalis is having its impact there locally. And Peggy Flanagan
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: is a far-left, socialist-aligned candidate in a state that, while
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: has a Democratic base, doesn't have a history of far-left
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: progressivism in the way that perhaps a New York City
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: or New York State might have.
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  Speaker 1: Trump won Ohio in 24 by almost 12 points. I
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: am seeing some, from a Republican perspective, I'm just asking
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: for your objective view, right? But from a Republican perspective,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: troubling signs in Ohio. Is that overstated? It just feels
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: like if Trump won it by over 10 points, how
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: could we even have a competitive governor's race or Senate seat?
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: But it seems like they're certainly both up in contention.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, both are very contentious and very competitive. Again, I'd
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: give Sherrod Brown a clear advantage. I think Ramaswamy is
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: in a neck and neck race. I can't really predict
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: the governor's race, but I think most likely we'll have
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: a return of Sherrod Brown to the U.S.
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  Speaker 6: Senate.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. Return of Sherrod Brown to the U.S.
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  Speaker 3: Senate.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have any early opinion, by the way, on
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: this one? This is crazy. We're speaking to Doug Schoen, everybody.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: He's been pollster and strategist for 40 years. On the
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Kamala as a candidate and Kamala as a nominee, there
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: are these stories that come out that say, oh, it's,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: you know– maybe Doug, her husband, not you, Doug doesn't
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: want her, Ron, and maybe she doesn't have the fire
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: in the belly, but she has the name recognition. If
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: you were sitting down with the Democrat Five Families, if
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: you will, to figure out who the nominee should be,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: what do you think the view of Kamala is from
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: the power brokers in the party?
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm not quite sure who the Five Families are,
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: but I could probably guess. But here's what I would
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: say to them if they asked. I'd say, look, in
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: the trial heats now, she's not getting more than one
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: in four, one in five votes, 25, 26, maybe occasionally
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: a little bit more. But she's a weak candidate. She
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: was a bad primary candidate in the past. She was
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  Speaker 4: not a good general election candidate in her 107 days.
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  Speaker 4: It isn't clear to me on the national stage whether
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  Speaker 4: her campaigning for herself in either the primary or the
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  Speaker 4: general election, whether she's won herself any votes or any
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  Speaker 4: friends or any support. So I would tell her to
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: be very skeptical of a future candidacy. The one break
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  Speaker 4: that I think she did get is with South Carolina
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: coming first. That gives her a likely but not certain
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  Speaker 4: win in the first contest.
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  Speaker 1: Doug Schoen. Appreciate you sharing your insights, sir. And we'll
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  Speaker 1: see how it all shakes out in this election. Thanks
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  Speaker 1: Looking at Clay and Buck. Let's get some calls and
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  Speaker 1: talk backs here from all of you. Look, I know
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  Speaker 1: we're doing a lot of numbers and analysis today, but
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  Speaker 1: elections in two weeks. Election day. We're here. It's happening.
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  Speaker 1: It is underway right now. Ron in Arkansas wants to
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  Speaker 1: give a frontline, firsthand account of what he's seeing in
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: the great state of. What's going on, Ron, in Arkansas?
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: Oh, not much.
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  Speaker 6: I was working the polls yesterday, helping people vote, and
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  Speaker 6: I noticed that we had an extremely large crowd of
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: over 500 come and vote, and most of them were
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  Speaker 6: senior citizens. And, you know, who I would consider conservative people.
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  Speaker 6: And anyway, they were voting. And so I was assisting them.
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  Speaker 6: And I just was tremendous. I expected a lot of
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  Speaker 6: Democrats or DSA members to show up and vote, but
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  Speaker 6: there was none.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there you go. You didn't have to worry about
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: a mob of nose rings and purple hair showing up
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden. Ron in Arkansas, thank you for
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: calling in, sir. Thanks for sharing what you saw. Let's see.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Tom in Washington. What's going on, Tom?
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I'd like to say I'm not
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: a Trumper, and I'm not an anti-Trumper. I feel like
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: I'm objective. But I used to vote Democrat before 2019,
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: you know, before they took a turn to the weird side.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: And as proof that there is something such as Trump
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: Drain Syndrome, their inability to reason why it's unfair for
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: males to compete against females. If Trump had come out
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: in favor of males competing against females, you know, the
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Democrats would say, oh, he hates women. He hates women.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: And they'd just pound that into the ground over and over.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: But now it's a... Gas prices, the economy, et cetera,
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: et cetera. And what people worry about more than gas
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: prices and the economy, what they worry about most is safety.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: You think Republicans should hit them harder on that issue?
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Tom, for calling from Washington. Look, I'd say this.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Trump has had a phenomenal success with not only securing
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: the border, which does, by the way, tie directly into
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: public safety and the fentanyl and the drug cartels and
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: all of that, of course. but also with his crackdown
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: on violent crime, violent gang activity, using federal government law
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: enforcement resources in some specific cities, notably Washington, D.C., and Memphis,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: among other places. And it has worked. We've even talked
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: to the FBI Director, Kash Patel, about this. It worked,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: full stop. And yet, you still have Democrats pretending like,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: They don't know what could how could we make Chicago safer?
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: How could we make Philadelphia safer? How could we go
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: down the list? Baltimore, all these different places that have
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: really persistent violent crime problems. There's not a big mystery here.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Democrats just don't want to do what is necessary to
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: keep people safe in these places. They want to blame amorphous,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: you know, societal issues and they want to blame Republicans.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: or they want to blame racist cops or they want
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: to blame something else other than address the issue and
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: make people, uh, make people safer. Mark in Ohio, Mark,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: tell me you've got good news about Ohio and that
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: it's all fine and we're going to win or no.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Tell me the truth. What are you seeing?
• 34:08
  Speaker 9: I do not bring good news from Ohio. And he
• 34:14
  Speaker 9: just ran the dumbest ad I've ever heard in my life.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Um, What was the ad? Will you tell everybody? I
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: mentioned it before, Mark, but Mark, tell everybody what this
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: ad was because it's getting a lot of heat, even
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: from Republicans, I know.
• 34:27
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it just, to me, it makes it sound like,
• 34:32
  Speaker 9: or makes it sound like her mother is lying about
• 34:37
  Speaker 9: all this sexual abuse that she had as a young
• 34:41
  Speaker 9: child and into her teens, and he should never have
• 34:44
  Speaker 9: brought that in.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: And he did.
• 34:47
  Speaker 9: Now most of the women think it's man against a woman.
• 34:50
  Speaker 9: It's not about policy anymore. And I think John Husted,
• 34:54
  Speaker 9: you know, he got linked to this Jeffrey Epstein money,
• 34:58
  Speaker 9: and he never fought back on that, and he never
• 35:01
  Speaker 9: fought back on the data centers, and he's going to
• 35:04
  Speaker 9: get smoked on those. I don't bring good news from Ohio,
• 35:07
  Speaker 9: and I'm very concerned about it. And the Republican Party
• 35:10
  Speaker 9: just does not know how to run any type of campaign.
• 35:14
  Speaker 9: I really, it's kind of shocking.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Mark, I'm sad to say I kind of thought before
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: you said a word that this is what you're going
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: to tell us because this is what I'm hearing from
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: my people in Ohio. So, yeah, thank you for calling in. Look,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: we've got a lot of stations in Ohio, a lot
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: of listeners in Ohio. You've got to show up. You've
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: got to vote. You've got to make it happen. Sean
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: from Louisiana wants to talk Ilhan Omar. What's up, Sean?
• 35:39
  Speaker 8: Hey, I just wanted to ask you, I think that,
• 35:44
  Speaker 8: Ilhan Omar, and I hate to change the subject a
• 35:46
  Speaker 8: little bit, Ilhan Omar is actually going to get prosecuted
• 35:49
  Speaker 8: for anything that she's done. And I wanted your opinion
• 35:52
  Speaker 8: on what kind of percentage that you think she holds
• 35:55
  Speaker 8: on doing that.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Hey, Sean, thank you. Yeah, absolutely. Good question. Fair question.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: I am going to, I would guess or predict that
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Ilhan Omar will face charges. I think she will face charges,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: and I think there will be a, and she'll probably
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: turn herself in. Like, it's not a violent crime she's
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: accused of, so I think she'll turn herself in, and
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: then she'll go to court. I think that if it's
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: in D.C., if a judge doesn't throw it out, a
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: jury will. That's my honor. You can get mad at
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: me for saying this, but that's my prediction. I think
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: there will be charges filed. I don't think it is
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: likely to be a successful prosecution against her, even if
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: they have very strong evidence, because all you need is
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: one Democrat on that jury or a Democrat judge, and
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: you will have nullification of any and all evidence because
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: they don't care. More coming up third hour. Stick around.