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The Big Issues - Tuesday 16 February 2021 · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: Three sixty with Katie Wolf. Join the conversation with Katie Wolf.
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  Speaker 1: You are our eyes and ears in the territory mixed
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  Speaker 1: one oh four point nine.
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  Speaker 2: And it is that time. Well, it's Wednesday morning, and
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  Speaker 2: I tell you.
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  Speaker 3: What, I don't know if I've had.
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  Speaker 2: Both of these. It's Tuesday morning.
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  Speaker 4: Goodness made yourself.
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  Speaker 2: It's actually Tuesday morning because we've changed the Big Issues
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  Speaker 2: now to a Tuesday morning, and it is time for
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  Speaker 2: the Big Issues, which is now brought to you by
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  Speaker 2: Kolano Community Association and Aboriginal oaned and operated and community
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  Speaker 2: led organization from the top end to Tenant Creek and joining.
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  Speaker 4: Us what.
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  Speaker 3: He's doing.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, that's the thing.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, I'm with you.
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  Speaker 2: Couldn't guess who's in the studio with me. I have,
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  Speaker 2: of course got Dave Tolner and Damien Hale. Good morning
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  Speaker 2: to you.
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  Speaker 3: By Monnie Wolf.
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  Speaker 2: With you both of you here in the studio for
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  Speaker 2: the Big Issues yet together this year.
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  Speaker 3: I think we've had one or two, haven't we.
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  Speaker 2: We might have something like that, not on a Tuesday, though,
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  Speaker 2: not on a Tuesday.
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  Speaker 4: It is quiet wake over.
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  Speaker 5: They've had to change the date so I can make
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  Speaker 5: it just to shut up.
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  Speaker 3: That was the listener's ringing in.
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  Speaker 5: So I go traveling Wednesdays, so I had to change
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  Speaker 5: the Tuesdays because I like seeing Dave, seeing.
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  Speaker 2: Both, it's good to be in the studio.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone thinks we're not mates. Don't you get on with Dave?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Good mates on fire. We don't agree on politics.
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  Speaker 2: So I actually think that this is a good lesson
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  Speaker 2: for everybody that you don't have to have the same
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  Speaker 2: political views as one of your friends. In fact, it's
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  Speaker 2: very normal to not have the same political views as
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  Speaker 2: your mates and you can still be mates when.
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  Speaker 4: You're in politics. Believe it or not, it's far easy
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  Speaker 4: to be friends with people on the other team. Well
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  Speaker 4: it is because you know exactly well if you don't
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  Speaker 4: know exactly where they're coming from.
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  Speaker 3: That's right, that's exactly right.
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  Speaker 2: Keep your friends closed, that's right.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: I will just firstly go to this story, which is
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  Speaker 2: obviously making new headlines around the territory. Chief Minister Michael
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  Speaker 2: Gunner is now calling on the opposition leader Lea Finocchio
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  Speaker 2: to provide evidence of allegations that territory labor members are
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  Speaker 2: implicated in a cocaine sex scandal. As claims continue to
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  Speaker 2: play out now. On the ABC this morning, the Chief
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  Speaker 2: Minister once again referred to the allegations as rumors and
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  Speaker 2: gossip and said that if Miss Finocchio had evidence of
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  Speaker 2: these allegations, she would elevate them by taking them to
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  Speaker 2: the police. Meanwhile, yesterday on the show, I spoke to
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  Speaker 2: the Northern Territory Labor President Erina Early, and she said
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  Speaker 2: that anything that could impact the integrity of the party
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  Speaker 2: needed to be addressed. I'll tell you what, it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be an interesting day and parliament, I suspect.
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  Speaker 5: Well, that's the time when the opposition leader does get
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  Speaker 5: a chance under parliamentary privilege to push for the names
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  Speaker 5: of the people, if there are any names, and if
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  Speaker 5: there's people are with evidence to put it forward. But
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  Speaker 5: you know, I agree with it, Michael said, because you know,
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  Speaker 5: how can you be responsible for something written in bush Ranger?
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  Speaker 5: Like if I if I'd done all the stuff in
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  Speaker 5: bush Ranger that they reckon I've done, I would have
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  Speaker 5: had a much more interesting life than I've actually had.
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  Speaker 4: Things you did, well, if you've got.
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  Speaker 5: To get to a stage where we're having to as
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  Speaker 5: the Chief Minister having to respond to something in bush Ranger,
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  Speaker 5: and I agree.
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  Speaker 2: It's unfortunate, though it's not only in bush Ranger.
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  Speaker 5: You know, forward and put the evidence forward, or don't,
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  Speaker 5: like if you're not going to bring the evidence, and
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  Speaker 5: you know.
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  Speaker 2: As it's interesting to take, I reckon.
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  Speaker 3: But if it's about sex, like, who cares if you're
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  Speaker 3: getting some good luck to you.
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  Speaker 5: The issue of cocaine, all right, If the issue of
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  Speaker 5: cocaine is it's an illicit and illegal drug and if
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  Speaker 5: you're buying cocaine in Darwin, you're an imbecile, and if
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  Speaker 5: you're taking it, you're a moron. That's what I think,
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  Speaker 5: because I actually did a bit of research knowing that
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  Speaker 5: this would come up. Now, cocaine in Colombia, the proper
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  Speaker 5: Colombian marching powder is about three dollars fifty US a gram.
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  Speaker 5: In Darwin they pay about four hundred dollars a grant
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  Speaker 5: and it's been cut more times in Jeff Horn. So
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  Speaker 5: why would you be spending four hundred dollars a grand
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  Speaker 5: on cocaine in Darwen?
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  Speaker 2: You don't want me to be taking an illicit substance anyway,
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  Speaker 2: it's I guess my big question. It is illegal and
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  Speaker 2: it's also you know, an incredibly you know, an incredibly
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  Speaker 2: bad sort of situation to be in where there is,
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  Speaker 2: you know, an allegation that there is is this potentially
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  Speaker 2: happening with members of the Labor Party. And I actually
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  Speaker 2: think that Aron Early made a good point yesterday and
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  Speaker 2: that was, you know, if.
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  Speaker 4: There is.
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  Speaker 2: I'll read her word for word, if there is anything
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  Speaker 2: that could impact the integrity of the party, then it
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  Speaker 2: does need to be addressed. And I just think it's
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  Speaker 2: interesting the situation we're in right now where the Chief
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  Speaker 2: Minister is refusing to address it and saying that that
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  Speaker 2: evidence needs to be brought for but then you've got
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  Speaker 2: the actual party that seems to be at odds with him.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Well the thing is, look, we're gonna could kill
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  Speaker 4: this in an instant. He just says to say, is
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  Speaker 4: this is not true, It's never happened, it's you know,
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  Speaker 4: but he hasn't said that. He said it's a rumor. Now,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I could have started out as a rumor
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  Speaker 4: on the Sunday's bush Ranger. But it's now Tuesday morning
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  Speaker 4: and he is the Chief Minister, and you've got a
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  Speaker 4: pretty good ability to get to the bottom of things
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  Speaker 4: very very quickly. Like you say this rumor is everywhere
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  Speaker 4: it has been for a while. He can certainly come
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  Speaker 4: out tonight and say it's just never happened, but he
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  Speaker 4: hasn't done that. But having said that, look, I'm not
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  Speaker 4: a fan of any of these sort of gotcha. It's
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  Speaker 4: even with something like that. We've got a system of
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  Speaker 4: law in the territory. It should go to the police.
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  Speaker 4: If people are found or broken the law, they should
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  Speaker 4: be charged. But you know, to have our system of
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  Speaker 4: government sort of where people are talking about this, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: by god, we've got eight point three billion dollars worth
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  Speaker 4: of debt. We're an economic basket case. The government's got
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  Speaker 4: no idea at all how we're going to get out
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  Speaker 4: of this mess. That sort of stuff really is what's
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  Speaker 4: going to affect people's lives in the long term, and
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  Speaker 4: that's what we should be focusing on in the territory.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, having said that, the nature of politics
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  Speaker 4: is that everybody's looking for a scan and I've got
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  Speaker 4: your moment, and it seems like a good one right now.
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  Speaker 3: I think it needs to be The Lily's got a
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  Speaker 3: big guild, doesn't it.
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  Speaker 5: You know, So today I suppose in question time it
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  Speaker 5: could come up it could come up in the next
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  Speaker 5: couple of days. It could be names come out if
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  Speaker 5: there is names there.
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  Speaker 4: This has got a mile toga And as you know, Haley,
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  Speaker 4: this is a running saw, mate. This is not going away.
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  Speaker 4: It's not going to go it's not going away, and
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  Speaker 4: the only way you get it to go away is
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  Speaker 4: to address the matter immediately. So if there is some
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  Speaker 4: guilt there, the people who are responsible need to be sacked,
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  Speaker 4: run out of the party. If there's nothing untoward, the
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  Speaker 4: chief Minister has got to come out and say there's
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  Speaker 4: nothing here, it's it's nonsense, it's lies, and put it
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  Speaker 4: behind him.
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  Speaker 5: All the people who are making the allegation, well somewhere,
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  Speaker 5: bring the evidence to the table.
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  Speaker 4: But that's not how it works in politics, Haley. As
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  Speaker 4: you know, the leadership is with the chief unists.
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  Speaker 3: Say whatever you like then about people, and.
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  Speaker 4: So that's what happens, that's the thing, you know, And
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  Speaker 4: it's a disgusting thing. But people say whatever they like.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, where there's smoke, these fires, like trum Deans,
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't even up with this rumor. I'll tell you
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  Speaker 2: right now. It's not Saturday nights, that's for sure. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: I am very boring. Let's just put it that way,
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  Speaker 2: all right. Let's move along because there is lots to
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  Speaker 2: discuss this morning, and I do want to get your
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  Speaker 2: take on the fact that the Territory Labor government is
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  Speaker 2: going to be well bringing forward some legislation this week
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  Speaker 2: on the COVID nineteen vaccine, and as of next week
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  Speaker 2: it's going to start being rolled out here in the
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  Speaker 2: Northern Territory, I believe, with our frontline workers to begin with,
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  Speaker 2: and then it will obviously go further. I heard this
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  Speaker 2: morning actually in a report on the ABC that I
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  Speaker 2: believe Danilla dilbur is going to be trying to vaccinate
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  Speaker 2: up to one thousand people a week once it's all
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  Speaker 2: sort of in play.
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  Speaker 4: Look, everybody's going to be out there getting vaccinated. One
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  Speaker 4: thing this does highlight is how far down the pecking
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  Speaker 4: order Australia is in real terms. You know, there's been
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  Speaker 4: tens of millions of days as of vaccine delivered all
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  Speaker 4: around the world and here we are just getting our
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  Speaker 4: first shipman, I think last week into Australia, and you
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  Speaker 4: know it's a it's a meager amount when you sort
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  Speaker 4: of consider what has already been administered around the rest
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  Speaker 4: of the world. Mind you, Australia's got out of it
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  Speaker 4: pretty cheaply in some regards, I think, mainly because we're
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  Speaker 4: an isolated sort of a nation from around them.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone have about three goes.
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  Speaker 6: I think you need a couple of I don't know
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  Speaker 6: you're going to have the vaccination because you you're against
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  Speaker 6: the pandemic in the first place.
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  Speaker 4: I just think the whole reaction to the pandemic has
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  Speaker 4: been a bit of a joke. But I got no
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  Speaker 4: dramas with having a vaxation vaccination. I know there's a
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  Speaker 4: lot of people who see conspiracy theories in everything, and
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  Speaker 4: you know, good on them, But you know, I got
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  Speaker 4: no dramas taking something that's been through all of the
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  Speaker 4: health checks of our bureaucracy in Australia. Somewhere along the line.
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  Speaker 4: You've got to trust someone, and if you're going to
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  Speaker 4: start vaccinating an entire population, you'd want to pretty certain
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  Speaker 4: that what you're vaccinating with is it going to.
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  Speaker 5: I asked the question is it does it cover the
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  Speaker 5: English strain?
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  Speaker 3: Does it cover the South African construct? So it's all
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  Speaker 3: those sort of questions.
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  Speaker 5: But I think the most vulnerable obviously up here is people,
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  Speaker 5: elderly people indigenous.
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  Speaker 4: Considering only sort of point three percent of the total
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  Speaker 4: pop point three percent of the total population, is there
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  Speaker 4: any sort of risk? You think they're the ones that
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  Speaker 4: get at first.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean it amazes me how you can have all
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  Speaker 4: these deaths in age care homes when we know they're
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  Speaker 4: the most vulnerable. Why weren't we protecting them right from
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  Speaker 4: the word go? It's got me somewhere else, I know, Hale,
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  Speaker 4: Are you just sitting there and know it's a federal responsibility,
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  Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, it's someone's responsibility,
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  Speaker 4: and you know we should have been what.
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  Speaker 3: We get in.
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  Speaker 5: We've got thousand vols have come in in the first
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  Speaker 5: shipment they start Monday. I think the Feds are given
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  Speaker 5: out about one hundred and ten thousands of the states
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  Speaker 5: to administer as they see fitting. Obviously, your frontline workers
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  Speaker 5: and your most vulnerable.
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  Speaker 4: Sitting in h care facilities around the country. You know
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  Speaker 4: there's got to be a large number of Australians in
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  Speaker 4: nursing homes and that sort of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Now, what do you think about? So in the UK
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  Speaker 2: they're now looking at doing this Australian style hotel quarantining
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  Speaker 2: to fight coronavirus.
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  Speaker 4: Chairman Deans him out worked or they got a fly
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  Speaker 4: a gunner over, we.
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  Speaker 3: Should have just had the one spot to Actually, probably.
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  Speaker 4: They'll get him to give them their economic analysis. I
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  Speaker 4: think they used deloittees as well.
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  Speaker 2: So easily a year obviously after that coronavirus pandemic began
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  Speaker 2: and the UK, Yeah, they're introducing this Australian style hotel quarantine.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if someone should let them know that that's
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  Speaker 2: actually you know, how we've continued to have issues with
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  Speaker 2: the hotel quarantine. It is like it does look as
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  Speaker 2: though the way that we're doing it here in the
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  Speaker 2: territory with Howard Springs is actually it's the gold in
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  Speaker 2: the sense that it's all spread out.
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  Speaker 4: We are going to be one of the most remote
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  Speaker 4: places in the entire world.
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  Speaker 5: Just give a bit of credit where it's due, David.
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  Speaker 5: Now it's hard for you to do, but just a
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  Speaker 5: little bit of credit that we've handled it pretty well.
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  Speaker 4: We've had it. We've found a single community.
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  Speaker 2: I mean in terms of having those international travelers coming
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  Speaker 2: into the territory and quarantining out at Howard Springs. That
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  Speaker 2: seems to have worked very well, and you know, if
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  Speaker 2: you don't want to give credit to the government obviously,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the National Critical Care and Trauma Response, I've
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  Speaker 2: done a phenomenal job out there.
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  Speaker 4: That's lean gaitarists.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, and.
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  Speaker 3: Before its Lenny.
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  Speaker 2: But I guess in other countries religately, they're probably not
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  Speaker 2: really in a situation where they're able to you know,
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  Speaker 2: they don't have facilities like that just sitting around able to.
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  Speaker 4: Be used, and they don't live in the back of Oh,
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  Speaker 4: what do you.
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  Speaker 2: Something about the Northern Territory.
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  Speaker 4: We don't have a city of five million people here in.
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  Speaker 5: New South Wales though, for instance, they've done very well
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  Speaker 5: with their hotel quarantining because the police have run it.
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  Speaker 5: And the difference is in Victoria in the early days
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  Speaker 5: they had contractors and people probably with limited amount of
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  Speaker 5: training obviously and not knowing the risks that you know,
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  Speaker 5: people working second jobs and all this sort of stuff,
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  Speaker 5: leaving their jobs at quarantine and going and driving ubers,
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  Speaker 5: or going and working in restaurants and doing other activities,
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  Speaker 5: going to age care facilities and doing security there as well.
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  Speaker 5: So you know, one of the things at New South
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  Speaker 5: Wales I think have done very well is having the
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  Speaker 5: police predominantly manning these facilities and they've had very little
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  Speaker 5: secondary outbreaks because of it.
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  Speaker 1: Three sixty with Katie Wolf on Mix one oh four
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  Speaker 1: point nine thanks to Joyce Main Darwin.
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  Speaker 2: You're listening to the Big Issues and I have got
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  Speaker 2: in the studio with me this morning, Dave Tolner and
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  Speaker 2: Damian Hale and The Big Issues proudly brought to you
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  Speaker 2: by Kolano Community Association and Aborige and a loaned operated
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  Speaker 2: and community led organization. Now let's talk about this story
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  Speaker 2: was in The Australian yesterday. Labour's opposition to the expansion
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  Speaker 2: of the Queen Energy Finance Corporation has sparked a stoush,
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  Speaker 2: apparently in a meeting of the party's Right Faction, with
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  Speaker 2: Pro Resources MP Alex Gallagher and Joel Fitzgibbon lining up
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  Speaker 2: against Legal Affairs spokesman Mark Dreyfus.
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  Speaker 4: Now. The argument during a.
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  Speaker 2: Meeting apparently of the Right Faction MPs on Monday came
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  Speaker 2: ahead of the release of this report by the Competition
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  Speaker 2: Watchdog warning that the East Coast faced gas supply shortages
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  Speaker 2: from twenty twenty four. It seems, though you know that
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  Speaker 2: there does still seem to be quite a divide within
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  Speaker 2: the Labor Party at the moment. Those that are sort of,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I guess, more so trying to represent the
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  Speaker 2: workers and particular those workers of coal mines and other
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  Speaker 2: types of minds. And then you've sort of got those
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  Speaker 2: that sit very much on the other side of things
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to you know, the energy policies and
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  Speaker 2: climate change. And it's a difficult juggle, I think for
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  Speaker 2: the Labor Party at the moment.
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  Speaker 4: It's a very difficult juggle for Labor. But one thing
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  Speaker 4: I will suggest, Katie, is that this isn't really an
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  Speaker 4: issue of the left and right. This is an issue
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  Speaker 4: of the woke versus the practical people, I suppose, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and it's affecting all political parties. I mean, it's most
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  Speaker 4: obvious in labor because I suppose they're the most divided.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, you've got it's almost a city country
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  Speaker 4: divide where you've got city people banging on about climate
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  Speaker 4: change and you know, we've got to stop coal power
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  Speaker 4: and you know, stop gas and stop people working and
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  Speaker 4: timber industries and you know mentioned Joel Fit's given the
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  Speaker 4: other fight that's broken out in labor course as well
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  Speaker 4: as with the cfmu's Timber division where Dan Andrews is
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  Speaker 4: basically being timber in Victoria and put hundreds of thousands
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  Speaker 4: of people out of is putting hundreds of thousands of
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  Speaker 4: people out of jobs. He's he's put up a twenty
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  Speaker 4: three thousand dollars reskilling for all those people. But fundamentally
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  Speaker 4: this is like I say, the woke and the unwake.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, you've got people like Joel Fitzgibbon who
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  Speaker 4: represent electrics where a huge portion of the voters working
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  Speaker 4: in the coal industry, whether it's mining, whether it's shipping coal.
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  Speaker 4: You know, they're all tied to it in some way
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  Speaker 4: or other. And yeah, it's having it's I don't think
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  Speaker 4: it's I don't think it's a left and right issue
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  Speaker 4: as such.
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  Speaker 2: So like obviously it's that you know what you work as,
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  Speaker 2: it's those that are in those coal mines. But then
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  Speaker 2: it is also a situation where Australia is moving, you know,
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  Speaker 2: more so towards people are concerned about climate change and
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  Speaker 2: they are worried about it the environmental impact.
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  Speaker 4: So you can't you can't suggest this is a left
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  Speaker 4: and right issue when you look at Gladys Beeargiclian in
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  Speaker 4: New South Wales. She got to be in on coal mining,
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  Speaker 4: aren't he? The other day I think she allowed part
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  Speaker 4: of a gas resource to you know, actually be explored.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, I mean she's a Liberal and they're
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: sort of as out there as anyone on And you
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: look at the opposition leader in Western Australia there's an
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: election coming there. He's a liberal. He's come out and
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: given a commitment that they're going to have zero emissions
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: by twenty thirty, not twenty fifty. He's trying to we
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: add green the Greens this falet. So you can't. So
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: you can't. Well you sit there and suggest there was
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: a left and right issue. There was an issue between
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: the woke and the and the people who are living
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: in the bush.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: It's also a leadership issue, like we've had a decade
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: now of liberalment, federal liberal government for a decade, all right,
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: and we're still having the same arguments about climate change
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: that we were having in two thousand and nine when
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: they guillotined Malcolm Turble for the first time over climate change.
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: We're still having an argument and he woke up and
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: he was gone.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: So very.
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: Tony Abbott ran a flat earth campaign and got voted
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: in as the leader and then the Prime minister. So
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: we're still bogged down. So the reason the reason they
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: talked you, Dave, I didn't interrupt you even though you're talking.
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: But we have the debate between the Labor Party different factions,
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: and people like Joel will represent their electorate and there's
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: other people in the party that are very much about
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: the progression of getting to renewable energies.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: As quick as we can hand.
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: So there's always going to be a debate in the
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: Labor Party. The Liberals they don't even bother having the debate, right,
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: so no one's allowed to talk about climate change. No
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: one's allowed to Well, you just made the point that
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: somebody of Western Australian Liberals come out and decided that
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: he was going to talk about it during an election campaign.
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: Wants to show some leadership on it, and what's Dave
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: to mock him and ridicule him. That's what David does.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: It's a flat earther. No, he doesn't believe in climate change.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: He fights every year he goes out and fights.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: That's that's twisting things. I mean. Tony Abbott was very
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: absolute in saying yes, he understood there was a problem
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: with climate change. He didn't believe that shutting down the
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: economy was a way to go, and.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: He put in plays that humans.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: He put in a place a system called direct action
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: in which he might recall which meant planting more trees
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: and all off.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: And how's that going for Dave?
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: Interestingly enough, Australia was the only one of the very
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: few countries in the world that meant their climate commitments
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: to Kyoto. All right, So all these other ones that
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: are belting us around the ears because of climate change,
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: they're not meeting their targets. We are the other country. Interestingly,
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: you see, I'm.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Going to move a little, gents, because I know that
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: you twill never agree. I want to know about this
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: wonderful event that's coming up. I know I talk about
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: something more.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: He wants to sell something.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Now I want to talk about I've had a message
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: from Michael Hurran. I know that you've had a message
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: as well, Haley, or you've certainly been talked about a
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: wonderful event that's coming back coming up now. It's happening
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: at the Mad Snake and they're hosting two events or
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Mad Snake Too Sorry is hosting a veterans fundraiser on
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: the nineteenth of February. All money is going towards reeling veterans,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: which will be a big boost to the VET commit unity.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: So they're raising money. These guys do a phenomenal job.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: They go out, you know, like they do this fishing
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: obviously from people who with people who have been impacted,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: with veterans who are going through a tough time, to
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: show them that they're not alone. Now, this event is
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: happening on the nineteenth of February. It's going to be
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: wonderful time.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: It is in the morning.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: They go six thirty in the morning. This is something
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: that I think all three of us can certainly get
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: amongst mad Snake bacon and egg rolls. They've got breaky wraps,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: they've got all beautiful coffee. It's going to be wonderful.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: It's a big day for me and the Big Boy.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: We do that one in the morning. At lunchtime, we're
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: off to be the entertainment at a fund Raiser's a
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: Junior Guys.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: Friday.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Are you so you guys are saying or you're singing?
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: You made it sound the.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: Paid entertainment well, sorry, fun paid entertainments.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: A fundraiser for kids.
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: Go, well, I'm going for nothing days of course getting
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: in the ticket.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: This is going you have to play.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: It's a fundraise If it's for Junior.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Can I tell you what if anybody else would like
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: to hire these two, well, give us a call here
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: at the stot.
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: So let's just get along if you want to where's
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: it's where we have to do.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: Where do we have to be those pee wee's.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: At Peewee's at lunch time at us on Fridays?
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: So if you will, yeah, Junior, I think they've still
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: got tickets. Is there a hundred bucks each or something
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: something like that. So we're doing a fundraiser helping them.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Just helping the youngsters to be able to obviously I'm
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: assuming when they're able to go away again for ripsides
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: and things.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: So now I believe it or not, it might not
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: look at but we used to be both in the sport.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: But it's a good pass time for young kids to
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: get out, get in the sun. And whether they're playing
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: golf or footing, or boxing or cycling or swimming, you know,
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: they should be doing something and they actually are out
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: there to encourage the better sporting role models.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Look at you both excellent now, I reckon that's a
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: wonderful thing, and good on you both for doing that
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: and help you and let's get off.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: The veterans as well of people and they've they've done
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: a bit for our country.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: They most certainly have. Well, it's always wonderful to have
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: you too in the studio. Thank you so much for
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: your time, Dave, to be with you, Wolf, and.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: I would say the same about Haley Coom.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, you have been listening to the big issues which
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: has proadly been brought to you by Kolano Community Association.