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Well, Rory’s a Lucky Girl. Work! (S3 E13 "Dear Emily and Richard”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in you, I am all in with
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  Speaker 1: Scott Patterson and I Hurt Radio podcast. Part of the
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  Speaker 1: reason I'm feeling all funky now because this episode slayed me.
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  Speaker 1: I cried, Okay, well, we're doing the show about the show.
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  Speaker 1: What's wrong? Hello? I never know anymore? Guys, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know when we start slide right, We're slide right in. Scott, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: tell me how you felt. And then, because I want
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  Speaker 1: to hear how you felt watching this, well, you know
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  Speaker 1: I'm on location. I missed my family. They put me.
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  Speaker 1: They watched this show. They do all of the incredibly
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  Speaker 1: powerful things like flashbacks, and the reason that the flashbacks
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  Speaker 1: in this episode were so powerful and worked so well
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  Speaker 1: are because is because we are so invested in these
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  Speaker 1: characters after two and a half seasons, we know them,
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  Speaker 1: we love them, and then we get this flashback back
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  Speaker 1: to when Laurel and Christopher was sixteen years old, and
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  Speaker 1: it was powerful. It was as good an episode as
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  Speaker 1: I've seen on television that I've been invested in in
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  Speaker 1: this type of a family drama. I mean, this episode
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  Speaker 1: shows us why Gilmore Girls at its best, there's nothing
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  Speaker 1: more powerful than this show because it clearly says to
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  Speaker 1: the audience, there doesn't matter how dysfunctional your family is.
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  Speaker 1: Look at this example of a dysfunctional family. But there's
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  Speaker 1: nothing more powerful than family. Yes, and we strive for it,
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  Speaker 1: and we dreamed for it, and you know, we have
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  Speaker 1: messed up relationships with cousins and mothers and whatever it is,
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  Speaker 1: we still hope. So it was so it was written
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  Speaker 1: large in this episode, and it was a powerful experience.
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  Speaker 1: Had the same I'm I'm so happy you had the
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  Speaker 1: same experience I had, And I can't wait to hear
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  Speaker 1: how Danielle responded. I cried multiple times. Too gooded me
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  Speaker 1: multiple times. Oh yeah, I loved it. I mean, this
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  Speaker 1: was the first time I've ever seen a flashback like that.
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  Speaker 1: It reminded me a lot of Um, This is US,
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  Speaker 1: I know, like, con't just bring it to like current
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  Speaker 1: TV shows. This is Us does that a lot. They
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  Speaker 1: do flashbacks and it just makes you understand every character
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  Speaker 1: so much more. And that's how I felt about this episode.
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  Speaker 1: I was just like, oh my god, because you hear
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  Speaker 1: you see them now talk about like, oh, when I
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  Speaker 1: was sixteen, I had a baby, But to actually see
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  Speaker 1: Lorela and Christopher sixteen years old and what they went through,
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  Speaker 1: and also Emily and Richard and Christopher's parents on their
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  Speaker 1: discussion that that one really I was like, oh, I
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  Speaker 1: just wanted to jump through the screen, but oh my god, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it knows for as gutted as I was multiple times,
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  Speaker 1: but one being I felt such heartache for Emily, like
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  Speaker 1: I'll cry, I'm gonna cry in this podcast. Such heartache
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  Speaker 1: for Emily when she realized they're gone, like I almost
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  Speaker 1: can't say it, like they're gone. And then the beauty like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, like when the DVD player, it's like
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  Speaker 1: this just the most excruciating pain and the pain you
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  Speaker 1: feel for Lord multiple times, the fact that Laura lie
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  Speaker 1: like you guys, I cannot say it without checking up.
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  Speaker 1: Went to the hospital to help Rory because Rory needed
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  Speaker 1: her the pain she had to endure to be there
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  Speaker 1: for the birth of Christopher's baby with someone else, but
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  Speaker 1: she knows there's nothing more important than my own kid,
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  Speaker 1: and saying to her mom, Rory needs me there, so
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. But that's the point, right, It's like,
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  Speaker 1: if I'm with my kid, I can do anything. If
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  Speaker 1: we're together, I can get through anything. You're gonna make
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  Speaker 1: me cry, I know, was it not such an amazing episode?
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  Speaker 1: But it killed me because anybody that's been in a
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  Speaker 1: delivery room delivering their kid, you know, that's a that's
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  Speaker 1: that you know, you walk into the hospital one person,
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  Speaker 1: you leave that delivery room a completely different person. So
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  Speaker 1: do you think experiencing this episode watching it now as
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  Speaker 1: a father is completely different than how you felt shooting it?
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  Speaker 1: Because your scenes in this episode are actually kind of fun,
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  Speaker 1: right right? They were? They were fun. Uh, this, without
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  Speaker 1: a doubt was the most powerful episode of television I've
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  Speaker 1: probably ever seen. Uh, And you know, obviously because it
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  Speaker 1: was such a deeply personal experience for me because I
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  Speaker 1: was completely emotional and I don't even have children. For me,
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  Speaker 1: it was I was feeling laurel I so much. But
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  Speaker 1: that's but that's the strength of of motherhood, being a
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  Speaker 1: parent is that there's no stronger love, there's no stronger bond.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing deeper in the human experience than that. Then
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  Speaker 1: with parents and their child, nothing is stronger. Um. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's your child, or whether it's your mother or
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  Speaker 1: father or whatever, but it really when you have a child, Ah,
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  Speaker 1: you understand. I understood for the first time what what
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  Speaker 1: love really was. I didn't know I had I didn't know,
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  Speaker 1: and then I found out. You find out one day,
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  Speaker 1: it's just like there he is. And then because it's
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  Speaker 1: like what are you willing to do for that child?
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  Speaker 1: And yet the answer is anything and everything? Um man. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: just just a wonderful, wonderful episode. This was my absolute
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  Speaker 1: and it had a ton of laughs. Uh, had a
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  Speaker 1: ton of great line Anyway, let's go through it. Yeah, Daniel,
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  Speaker 1: do the do your thing. Okay, alright, guys, if you haven't,
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  Speaker 1: If you guys haven't figured it out yet. This is
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  Speaker 1: season three, episode thirteen, Dear Emily and Richard, Air date
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  Speaker 1: February four, two thousand three. Um lor Lae is reminded
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  Speaker 1: of when Rory was born, with flashbacks to her teenage years.
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  Speaker 1: As Sherry, Chris's current girlfriend, goes into labor. Rory and
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  Speaker 1: Lordly are the only ones to support Sherry until Christopher arrives.
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  Speaker 1: Luke continues to day Taylor's lawyer, Nicole. Sherry is so
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  Speaker 1: nuts in this down and I wrote it down and
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  Speaker 1: her hair was so blonde. We had like a different
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  Speaker 1: hair to Okay, so let's we'll start going through it.
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  Speaker 1: And then obviously there's just so many significant things. So
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  Speaker 1: we started dinner Friday night dinner, and we learned quickly
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  Speaker 1: about Aunt Marine hiking up her skirt and that Lord
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  Speaker 1: Lye and Rory are planning their trip to Europe and
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  Speaker 1: it is not the trip that Richard and Emily would ever,
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  Speaker 1: they laughed at them. You're not they didn't think they
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  Speaker 1: were serious. They're laughing when looked at each other. Go,
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  Speaker 1: I loved I've never the use of the word trapes
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  Speaker 1: when Emily said, you're going to just drapes around Europe, Like, well,
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  Speaker 1: you what are you going to sleep in the in
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  Speaker 1: the park in Paris like a couple of squirrels? Which
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  Speaker 1: version would you rather have? I'm not gonna lie rather
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  Speaker 1: do the Richard Emily, Oh god, yes, kidding me. It's
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  Speaker 1: so interesting because they would pay for it. But it's
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  Speaker 1: like Rory and Lore like don't even want that trip. No,
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  Speaker 1: they want to do the youth hostile route, you know. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look, when you're a kid, that's romantic and
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  Speaker 1: it's fun, and that's you want to connect with other kids.
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  Speaker 1: That's how you meet kids from all over the world,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and in those use hostels and it's great. Um, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: those hostels are a party zone. Have you Yeah? I have?
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  Speaker 1: Can I say it abroad? That's all we did. We
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  Speaker 1: jumped around a different countries and stayed in hostles and
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  Speaker 1: met other twenty something year old and just rage and
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  Speaker 1: had a good time. Yes, yes, have you stayed in
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  Speaker 1: the hostile Scott? Uh? I have? Danielle is not wrong.
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  Speaker 1: You rage. Look when you're that young, you make friends easily. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: You're you're an open spirit, You're on an open book
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  Speaker 1: and the stories being written. I was not cut out
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  Speaker 1: for that, even in my twenties. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: that was that's how I saw. I mean I didn't
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  Speaker 1: see Europe all of Europe that way, and I did
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  Speaker 1: backpack through Europe, but I did a little differently. But
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  Speaker 1: I met so many people and we had so many
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  Speaker 1: great experiences and there's just nothing better. And you have
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  Speaker 1: to do it when you're young, you have to do
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  Speaker 1: I liked the sound of the ritz. I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: now it sounds good. Yeah, I think I don't think
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  Speaker 1: I could share the toilets at the youth hostels. Don't
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  Speaker 1: you share bathrooms? It's like your sorority. Has you've done
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  Speaker 1: that before? Where you do. I love mythrooms. Come on,
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  Speaker 1: when you're eighteen nineteen, you can do anything. You can
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  Speaker 1: go anywhere, it doesn't matter. You know. That was a
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  Speaker 1: very funny scene. So we knew we were We knew
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  Speaker 1: we were going strong right from the start. So then
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  Speaker 1: it was interesting. We go to Tom, who's working on
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  Speaker 1: the shop I like to still call the shoppy because
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  Speaker 1: that's two peep, and Dean is working essentially for the
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  Speaker 1: construction guys like Taylor has sort of recruited him, and
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  Speaker 1: Miss Patty's there leering at all the fellas, which was,
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god. Then we get to the scene I love,
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  Speaker 1: which is Jess and Luke having their little conversation because
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  Speaker 1: Luke is trying to figure out where to take in
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  Speaker 1: a cold dinner, and it's just hilarious because Jess is
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  Speaker 1: just relentlessly making fun of Luke. See you see how
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  Speaker 1: good the comedy could be when things are super fast? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: when you don't, when you when you don't indulge in
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  Speaker 1: taking pauses or taking your moments or trying to be funny,
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  Speaker 1: you just execute. You do the dialogue, you do the
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  Speaker 1: actions and your speed and it and it really made
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  Speaker 1: the humor pop. You know are so correct. That scene
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  Speaker 1: was like a workout for my life because he had
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  Speaker 1: to just jam with you right then you exit and
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  Speaker 1: incomes Dean and that that almost hurt my brain. That
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  Speaker 1: list of cheeseburgers in this and then and they're and
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  Speaker 1: they are having to do that while they're firing off
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  Speaker 1: their line. Oh my god, was that a sin? Also,
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  Speaker 1: like just how they were portraying their personalities and that
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  Speaker 1: like he was being like, you know, snarky, and but
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  Speaker 1: also like trying to be like dude, like you're working
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  Speaker 1: and you're taking my order, you know that five and
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  Speaker 1: Jesse's just kind of just trying to hang in there
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  Speaker 1: without saucess and your tailor's waitress. You're working for Taylor,
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  Speaker 1: Taylor's waitress. That was It was Dean at his best.
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  Speaker 1: He's he's in a position now where you know, he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't really he's over it. He can be friends with
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  Speaker 1: Laura Lae. He knows that this this Milo is not
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  Speaker 1: really um as cool as everybody saw. He was like
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  Speaker 1: he can get his goat when he wants to, and
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  Speaker 1: he did and been so confident. He's definitely sticking the
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  Speaker 1: knife in a little that ain't just like are he
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  Speaker 1: but he earned that, right, didn't he He earned that?
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think he was being a D word.
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  Speaker 1: I think he was just being, you know, justifiably. They
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  Speaker 1: both were being D words to each other. I think
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  Speaker 1: I think I think Jess was being defensive and hostile,
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  Speaker 1: and I think and I think Dean was being on
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  Speaker 1: the offensive and hostile. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The list of the meal, Oh, my head was exploding,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, is going to remember her? Jess? Is
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  Speaker 1: Jess going to remember all this? Like that was overwhelming.
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  Speaker 1: That whole scene was like a ping pong tournament. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's great, It's great, great moments. And they both had to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Jess had to buckle down, take the order
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  Speaker 1: and and doing exactly what Jared said for him to do,
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  Speaker 1: because you don't want those guys come back in. They're
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  Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna, we're gonna be You're gonna be remaking
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  Speaker 1: these orders all day and these guys work for Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: Read it back to me, Jess, now you're my little
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  Speaker 1: you know what? And then having was like pickles pickles
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  Speaker 1: on the side of what like it was just the
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  Speaker 1: whole thing. My god, I love it when the kids
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  Speaker 1: go at it and didn't make me hungry that scenes like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, I felt this. You know, it's amazing
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  Speaker 1: about this episode. There's that scene and then there's another
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  Speaker 1: scene coming up right now that really I had very
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  Speaker 1: little to do with sort of the meat of what
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  Speaker 1: we were emotionally feeling, but there's such awesome scenes. So
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  Speaker 1: then we go to the inn and Loyalize on the
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  Speaker 1: phone and we realize some dudes having a retirement party
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  Speaker 1: that he keeps changing the theme, which really has no
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  Speaker 1: significance in what this episode is about, but it was
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  Speaker 1: such a great way to see Suki and she tosses
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  Speaker 1: the golf ball cake suk on that they could have
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  Speaker 1: eaten that cake. They could have served that. It agrees
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  Speaker 1: you want to make a funny, humorous sight gags for
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  Speaker 1: the camera, But like servant, I have a question about that.
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  Speaker 1: Was that that had to have been a fake cake, right,
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  Speaker 1: because otherwise it's just one and done. Like she flipped
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  Speaker 1: that and it landed so well into the trash. Can
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  Speaker 1: wait if she messed it up, they'd have to bring
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  Speaker 1: out another used to nail that. And lanes they're working
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  Speaker 1: and then Rory comes in with the flags and like
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  Speaker 1: this guy suddenly takes his golf retirement party to a
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  Speaker 1: beanie baby party. Yeah, oh yeah, waste tragic, waste of cake.
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  Speaker 1: Just tragic. Yes, I actually thought the same. So then
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  Speaker 1: we get back to law Leon Rory's and we get
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  Speaker 1: the invitation to the C section, which was bizarre. I'm
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  Speaker 1: supposed to hug a formal viewing gifts. Welcome the sushi, Yes, sushi,
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  Speaker 1: which I wish. I'm all right, I'll give it to her.
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  Speaker 1: When you're pregnant, you can have sushi, but you can't.
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  Speaker 1: You can't, So you can have sushi. No, you can't, cannot.
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  Speaker 1: So I think she's trying to say, I'm having this baby,
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  Speaker 1: I want sushi. Oh that's what I That's what I gathered. Um.
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  Speaker 1: But the one thing that really bothered me was was
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  Speaker 1: that PS gifts are not necessary but always appreciated. My God,
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  Speaker 1: that's like, you better give me a gift or else.
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  Speaker 1: And I won't say it now, but there were two
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  Speaker 1: pop culture references in this scene that I will say
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  Speaker 1: for when we do pop culture were genius. So I
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  Speaker 1: just I leave you with that. So then we see
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  Speaker 1: the Amazon box, but it's not really an Amazon box.
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  Speaker 1: It's Emily has sent over more travel books, and then
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  Speaker 1: we get to our first flashback, which was Wow, it
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  Speaker 1: was shocking. It was shocking, and my initial reaction was
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  Speaker 1: not good so because I hadn't because I hadn't seen
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  Speaker 1: it before. But then I watched the scene again. I
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  Speaker 1: rewound it and I watched the scene. I said, well,
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  Speaker 1: do I believe that that girl was sixteen year old
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  Speaker 1: Laurel I do I believe that that guy was sixteen
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  Speaker 1: year old Crystal. I'm going not say that girls. She's
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  Speaker 1: she's built different, she looks different, she doesn't have laurelized height,
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  Speaker 1: and they didn't have their they did not have the
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  Speaker 1: you know what, But you know what didn't matter. I
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  Speaker 1: totally agree with you, Scott. It didn't matter literally reading
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  Speaker 1: my mind, because those two actors were really terrific and
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  Speaker 1: they were really engaging. Um, I mean, she was terrific.
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  Speaker 1: The mind that really made me not like have to
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  Speaker 1: worry about who the actors were was when they started
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  Speaker 1: talking about their plan to go to Europe and back
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  Speaker 1: back and how is Christopher's plan. I was like mind blown, Like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, that just totally took me back to
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of the episode on how Rory wants to
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  Speaker 1: do this right right right. I'm so glad you brought
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  Speaker 1: this up, though, because my note, although I was completely
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  Speaker 1: into the episode, said she isn't Laura Lits. It doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't right, but she was. Yeah. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: guess at the end of the episode, I had completely
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  Speaker 1: sort of changed my mind. They they both believe those actors,
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  Speaker 1: both believed that those they were those characters sixteen. So
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  Speaker 1: it made me buy it to it, and it was
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  Speaker 1: all this great mom, Mom, I'm dropping my sweater. Mom,
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  Speaker 1: I'm you know, gonna have a drink. You know, I'm here.
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  Speaker 1: I guess she's not here. Whatever she had, she had
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  Speaker 1: the attitude down, she had the cadence down. She had
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  Speaker 1: she was she was expressing the physicality of what she
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  Speaker 1: was doing. Was was perfect. The brilliance of the flashbacks
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  Speaker 1: is that the adults were played by the characters the actors.
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  Speaker 1: We know how they made them look slightly younger. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if it was like a fuzzy filter or
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  Speaker 1: what they were doing, but Richard was phenomenal in every way.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a question about this scene. Is it safe to
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  Speaker 1: say that this is the day that Rory was conceived,
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  Speaker 1: because that's what I That's what I said to Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure that it was. That was the day right
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  Speaker 1: because they were like Emily's not home and they're drinking,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the cherry in it. I had the same
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  Speaker 1: thoughts called her lore? So did you notice that that
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  Speaker 1: and not obviously was in the writing because Christopher is
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  Speaker 1: really the one that calls lore Lae lore? And I
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  Speaker 1: know from all the fans they're they're torn on it.
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  Speaker 1: Some people hate it and some people like it. I
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  Speaker 1: personally love it that young Christopher called her lore? Did
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  Speaker 1: you did you also think for a minute, as you
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  Speaker 1: know the flashbacks kept coming, because I think there were
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  Speaker 1: three or four or five of them. As they kept coming,
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  Speaker 1: I had a fleeting thought of Wow, what the show
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  Speaker 1: could have been. Say, I don't know if they could
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  Speaker 1: have kept doing that, I don't know. It just seemed
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  Speaker 1: to elevate the show. Uh, it deepened the experience for me,
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  Speaker 1: and I think had they stayed, you know, I'm kind
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  Speaker 1: of wondering how the show would have been received had
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  Speaker 1: they continued to do these flashbacks. Interesting not in every episode,
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  Speaker 1: but in every other you know what I mean. You've
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  Speaker 1: talked about a prequel to Gilmore Girls. And that's what
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  Speaker 1: this would be. It would be so right, that would
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  Speaker 1: be really good. It really would be good. It really
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  Speaker 1: would be yes. So then and and I also loved
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  Speaker 1: how the you seamlessly went from the flashback to present day.
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  Speaker 1: So immediately we come back and we see you know,
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  Speaker 1: Lord Lye and Rory in their in their beanie and
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  Speaker 1: their scarf, and we're back, and then we head to Chiltern,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: which was a funny scene. We just see that Paris
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: and Rory are still really going at it. Mm hmm,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: you know. And then and and Paris picks the bad
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: photo of Rory, and then we get the call. Right,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: we're back to the pettiness that is Paris. Yeah, yeah,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: like she has to have Rory looking like an idiot.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: And then we get the call and it's Maureen, Sherry's
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: friend saying Sherry screwed up. Sherry screwed up first of all,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: which she said so many times. It was like a
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: little bit annoying. But off Rory goes to the hospital.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: But isn't it you know, if we compare Paris's life
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: to Rory's life, I mean, doesn't this little Paris in
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: a snit all the time in the show. Just look,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: it just pales in comparison to Rory's life, which is
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: incredibly full, even though it's it's you know, not everybody's
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: together on the same page. You've got a long you know,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: she's got her dad, it's in a relationship, she's gonna
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: have a half sister, and you know, it's a family.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: She's in a family that's trying to, you know, weave
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: it all together again, stay together. The tension of the
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: show is like they're doing all they can to to
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: summon the better rangers, angels of their natures, to stay
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: together as the guilmost as a family. It's messy, but
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: it's love right right. It doesn't have to be perfect.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: But just just watching people, watching people try to clean
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: it up and make it good and and make the
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: commitments is great. It's compelling television. It really truly is.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: And I like the Paris better that gets along with Rory.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: I enjoy that Paris so much more. This Paris is
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: kind of back to remember when Paris would have annoyed you.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: This is that annoying One's love her, but I like
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: her better when they're friends. Yeah, I think I think
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: that Amy and Dan like that character so much they
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: wanted to keep her around because she's really outlived her usefulness.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I think they milk that cow wile ago but came back.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: So we do flashback to a scene that I thought
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: was interesting because it was necessary, but it didn't totally
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: age well. In the scene where she's trying on her dress,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: it's really like her debutante dress. I think, yeah, so
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: it's her debutante ball, just like Rory was in the
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: debut Ball. And the dress doesn't fit and Emily's like,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: did you gain weight? Like, what's going on? This was
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: just three months ago? We had the fitting and then
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: get in sweats and run around the block. Yeah, it
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: was like And that was great acting by the young
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: lower Lie because you see she realizes it who is she?
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Who is she? I didn't look it up and I
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: actually been trying to track her down. And the young Christopher,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: which from it is that her name? She was great. Yeah.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: She He's sort of known for a few other things too,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: but so far I haven't had left tracking them down.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep um. But that scene with the dress
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: and it didn't fit really drove home for me just
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: how the kind of wealth that Laurel I came from,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: because that is you know, I mean, man, that's almost
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: American royalty, you know, it's it's it's right on their cusp. Yeah,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: they're they're fancy people. Yeah, yeah, they're they're they're holding
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: some traditions there. And the fashion of the eighties was
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: really on point, especially with Emily and especially I'm jumping ahead,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: but the scene where Emily realizes they're gone, she's wearing
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: just the ultimate eighties sort of dynasty gown. I was
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: like fashion. So yeah, that scene was brutal because you're like,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: oh no, definitely brutal, but I think necessary. Like I like,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I liked seeing that moment where Laura la realizes, oh
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: my gosh, I'm pregnant. Yeah, It's just like light bulbs
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: going off in that scene. I'm like, oh my gosh.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: So then we go back to the diner for what
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I thought was one of the best Scott Lauren Luke
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Laurely moments of the entire series. The physical comedy, I mean,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: because you're really not talking like you're you're We're focused
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: on Nicole's call, and then we background basically to refresh her.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: So Kirk's at the counter and Laura Lee walks in
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: and she's like, where's Luke? And then here comes Luke
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: all gussied up, wearing the sweater that Laura Lee got
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: him in, the leather jacket and the whole thing. And
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: then Laura Lee says, it's a girl. It's a girl,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: And then you let her take the call on the
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: is losing her mind? So I assume that's all choreographed,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: like all the oh sure, oh yes, genius. That's the
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: most physical almost that we've seen, the two of you.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, we we listen. We could have
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: gone our our chemistry was so good. We could have
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: gone on the road and done a stand up routine.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: You know that I find crazy. And we maybe have
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: talked about this, but you know there's so many genius
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Gilmo Girl TikTok's, and we probably have talked about this.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Is that Sherylyn Fenn was originally who they wanted as
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Laura Lie. No one is Laura Lie but Lauren Graham right,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: it's a whole different show. It's a whole different show
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: without her. Can I tell you, guys, a weird thing
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: that happened to me and they said, this is weird,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: so and forgive me for this. I hope no one
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: takes this the wrong way. Ah. Obviously the magazines have
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: mentioned that it was a story recently that Lauren and
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: her boyfriend Peter Krausa broke up or whatever, which is
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: sad and I don't even who didn't care. It's not
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: the point of my story. No, but I mean no,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: but but it is sad. And I but not to
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: interrupt you, but please, but I didn't know about it,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: and then I did read about it, and there was
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: one article that went into the why well they said
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: that she said, they're quoting her and she went on
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: location too mighty duck to film for five months or
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: whatever it was. And when she returned, Uh, Peter and
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: his son, who I probably teenager late teenager at this point,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: had bonded so deeply that she kind of felt like
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: a third wa Oh my god. And it just broke
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: my heart. Yeah, because they've been together a long time,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: and she's been with that boy a long time, and
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: I'm sure she's been a great kind of a step
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: mom to him. Not that they're you know what I mean.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a big investment making a kid. So
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: it's very very sad, very sad. But what was real
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: weird for my brain? And I mean it was a
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: split second. I don't know, it was like, oh good,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Luke can be with her. And then I was like
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: what what? What? Like? I literally was like, first of all,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Scott is married. Number two, Scott isn't Luke and she's
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: not Laurel. I was literally like, I mean, it was
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: very fast in my head, but I was literally like, hey, head,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: what the fudge? Like what did you have a clubhouse
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: meeting with your head? Literally like sure, there's tons of
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: people who are listening to those podcasts had the same
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: thought process too. I mean it was so it just
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: shows how much I blur, even though I love her
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: on Parenthood, I blur her Lauren with Laurea la so much.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, it was. It was an acting towards
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: to force and define. It will always define her career
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: no matter what great things she goes, continues to do
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: right and and it kind of shows like with acting
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: or roles, Sherilyn Fenn did not become Laura Lie because
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: she was never meant to be Laura Lie. Do you
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like I would assume you get
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: the parts that you're really meant to play only if
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: they're good and they last as long as this one has.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: And I think that's a requirement, right, that's a that's
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: a requirement destined to be that guy in Saul Scott.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm like the biggest Saw th time. It's
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: so weird. I literally think Saw it are the best
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: horror movies except poor Chris Rock one that wasn't as good. Okay,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: getting myself back? Sorry, Oh all right. Can we give
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Luke's outfit honorable mention? Totally? You were an all black
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: a leather jacket, and I was like, he literally owned it.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I was so proud of Luke. Fee looks so spiffy,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: and she's likable. Nicole like, I don't like her that much,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: but I do like her. Yeah, me too. Yeah, it
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: was nice to say. I I had hair at one point,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: so it was nice to see the hair. It's like, wow,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: look at that, Oh god, a little bit of a head.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Do you were baseball cap in this new show or
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: can you not tell us? Uh? You know, it's interesting,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: it's interesting. I probably will be. Oh yeah, yeah. And
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: today we had a fitting today Wardrop fitting today in
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: the second one, and we haven't been able to find
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: the right hat. I don't know. I don't know if
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: it's going to be a permanent picture like in every scene, right,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: but I mean just in nature what my character does,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: it's going to call for that. So we found, you know,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I found the hat today. So so Sherry's totally crazy.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Did you guys all feel that she has lost her mind? Um? Yes,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: well poor thing right? Yeah, and her friend Marin is
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: totally nuts. And nothing was funnier than when Rory says, boy,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: do you look them? Yes? Yes, Laura Rory stole this episode.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: She took the Comedy Award for this episode. She had
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: four or five major laugh out loud lines, just fantastic.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: I need my mommy and I don't care who knows it, brilliant.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: It was brilliant. You know the whole episode. It's such
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: great mother daughter because then the scenes with Laura Lae
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: and Emily are amazing. She goes over Leilanie has the
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: night off, Emily's heating up the roast and and Laura
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: la genuinely says like when Dad's gone, what do you do?
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: And it was sweet and sad and happy and all
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: of the things. Yeah, when it's when when when, when
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: it's this well written, right, then the comedy really really pops.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Then then then it's just like, this is the type
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: of comedy that comes from great stress. Yeah, you know,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: you know, and all of the comedy came out of
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: great stress. And it was just hilarious, just absolutely. It
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: was the funniest of the episodes. And it was also
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: the most uh it was the deepest and most heartfelt. Yeah,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: and most powerful. I mean, good god powerful and it's God.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, I hope they submitted this for for for
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: an Emmy Award. You know, I think this is the
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: type of episode that you submit and you go, look
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: there it is, you know, yeah, because yeah, we get
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: to the scene that I thought was one of the
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: most hurt breaking, heart wrenching. So it's the four adults
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: played by the people that play the four adults discussing
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: this situation while Christopher and Laura Lie are upstairs sitting
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: in the floor on the corner and I mean, what's
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: his Doozy says get rid of it? Like and then
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: friends Francine said send her away, and you know, like,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I literally that that scene was a
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: lot that was that was a lot. Well, it was.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: It just showed you what what the stakes were for
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: those families, you know, and how rare this is, uh,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: you know, for for families like this to have to
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: deal with. I thought Emily was being a good mom
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: in this in this yeah, yeah, she was defending her
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: daughter because they were basically being like, Christopher so young
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: and he has a bright future, and she's like, so
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: does my daughter, you know. And when um, Christopher's dad
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: was like, just have her get rid of it, She's like, no,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I felt a lot for
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Emily in that situation, like she was well. And then
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Richard Richard says they will get married, they will live
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: here Christopher, Christopher will work for my company, and you're
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: just like, oh, wow, well, how do you feel. Let's
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: let's take a poll here amongst the upper crusty types. Right,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: this probably doesn't happen very often, but it probably happens
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: more often than people realize. What percentage do you think
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: terminate the pregnancy versus having the child? Mhm, Such a
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: tough conversation, but probably most do not have the child.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: I would say I would agree, right, it was it
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: was inappropriate the way she said it, and it was
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: inappropriate of the mother in law, for lack of a
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: better word, to suggest it to me, that's something that
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Laureli decides for herself with her parents, nobody else is involved.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: What a dilemma, My god, what a what a what
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: a what a great premise to to to jump started
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: show from what a launch. Christopher really was siding with
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: the adults. I'm using, was like, right, I'm going to
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: do what? So this show really framed it up for
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: us that this was lauralized decision not to marry him
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: and not to be and to escape that life. This
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: was her This was her ticket at a dodge, she
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: could go start in new life somewhere else with her baby,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: and she made that decision and all and in those
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: moments with the nurse and looking into the nursery at
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: that child, the flashbacks look at you know, looking at Rory. Yeah,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, and I will say, after watching this, it
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: made me feel like like better towards Emily and Richard
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: because I think prior to this, I was constantly thinking like,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: how could they just tell her daughter she needs to
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: get married at sixteen? Like how can they just you know,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: be so ruthless like that. But then after watching this episode,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: I and I'm not saying it's right, but I can
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: see Richard's like the wheels turning in his brain, like,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: you know, I want to help my daughter. I want
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: to set them up for success. I want, you know,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: like to have my granddaughter. This is the plan, because
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: this will help them. No, but this is okay. So
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: that's one part of it. The other part of it
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: is Emily and Richard desperately trying to save their reputations
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: and the reputation of their daughter. That is a huge event,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: totally on the social scene. Everybody talking about it because
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: they're going to be judging Richard and Emily. How did
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: this happen? What bad parents they must have. Emily is
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: a shrew. Of course her daughter is going to end
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: up like this and this, and then they're just out
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: there parios, right, maybe so they're just fighting, fighting for
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: their lives. Here, their whole lives are at stake, here,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: their social lives. We're jumping around the flashback. I thought
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: also that was so interesting is she's watching Quincy eating
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: a sandwich, goes into labor and just gets herself to
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: the hospital, and then you see you know, Emily and
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Richard come in sort of like we'll freaking out, Like
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: you don't go have a baby without telling your mom
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: and dad, you know. Like, but you're like, oh, wow,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Lorala is really starting to show she is doing this
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: her way, that that she's leaving, that this is her
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: ticket out. I mean, I know we're jumping ahead, but
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: but it poses more questions than it answers, even with
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: the flashbacks. And that's what's so brilliant about it, because
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: now I want to see deeper back into floralized past
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: with Emily and Richard and what led her to this
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: point where she's pregnant and she's leaving a note and
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: she's like, I'm gone, and it was painful. I felt
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: for Emily who was devasting needed that her daughter and
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: her granddaughter are gone. Gone, And just such brilliant acting
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: because we don't even know what the notes said, and
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: we knew immediately, oh, this is so painful and they're gone.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: They make that subtle reference to oh, she put the
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: stroller away, and then you're like, oh, they are out.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: It's just there's just so many questions to answer here.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: You know, why how did Laurela become this How did
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: she become so rebellious sixteen years old? How did she
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: become so brave? That's sixteen years old? I mean sure
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: never was a prequel. You would want it to start
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: when she's thirteen or you know what I mean, Like,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't want it to just start the day they
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: get pregnant, because there's so much more to learn from
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: before that. Right, You've got to examine that relationship with
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Laurela and her parents and what happened to her at school?
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: What her you know, what did she go? Where where
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: did Laurela go to? You would assume she was at
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: some Chiltern type school. Obviously she wasn't at Chiltern because
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: I think we would have known that, right, but something
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: like that she was, so yeah, that's your prequel. That's
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: where it starts, Okay, So we then flash I love
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: the going back. It's a big wedding between Luke and Laurela,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: and then they keep flashing back to that exactly. And
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: I would love to know Luke's story the prequels, they're
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: both their stories, because I'd love to see Luke with
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: his father growing up in the town, and the young
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: babette and the young miss Patty and the young maybe
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: even Kirk. Okay, So we then go back to Boston Memorial.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: A young Taylor would be good. I want to see
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Taylor in college, right, because you get the vibe that
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Taylor was probably friendly with Luke's dad. Yeah, they definitely
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: had a relationship. Hey, let's don't don't give Warner brothers.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: They're going to figure No, no no, no, they're gonna they're
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna figure out a way to prequel without
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: any of us, you know. Okay, So we go back
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: to Boston Memorial and this is where Rory's just rolling
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: calls for Sherry, and then we find out that Sherry
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: says Rory is going to go in the delivery room
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: and she delivers. She calls Laurel, I like, I need
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: my mommy. I mean, can you imagine if poor Rory
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: had to go the delivery room. You guys, I've been
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: in the delivery room once and I was I was
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: twenty nine years old, and I felt I was too
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: young to be kids. My god daughter, she and my
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: cousin asked me to be in the delivery room. It's
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: a big job, a very very big job. So when
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Sherry asked out of Roy was like, oh, Rory is
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: gonna be in for a treat. This is a big ride.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: It's an intense experience. Yeah for me. One of the
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: most minificant things is that Rory asked Laura La to come,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: and Laura like it dropped, goes yeah, of course, I
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: mean freaking out, tears just rolling. Emily points out like
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: this is how can you go to the birth of
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Christopher's child? This must be so terrible for you, and
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Laura La just sums it up like it doesn't matter
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: because Rory asked me to come, Laura, does Laura La
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: leave the dinner table that she's sitting out with Rory
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: if Emily calls her is freaking out, says you have
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: to come to the hospital. Wow, I think I would
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: say she does. I think she would too. Yeah, I
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: think she would. I mean she dropped everything when Richard
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: was in the hospital. She's all she's all grown up,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: and she's forgiven everybody, and she's tolerating everybody, and she's
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: still you know, her own woman, still snarky, is hack
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: and does that. So Christopher shows up and you know,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: you see just the bond between them, but then they're
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: really Sharry out and more legoes have fun? Boy, that
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: that's right, that's funny. And then and she goes, well,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: you know best i'd come up with, have fun? And
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Laura I trying to talk Sharry up the ledge. She's like,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: at first, you're gonna think you gave birth to Flynn,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: but they'll give that kid a good scrub, right right, right, Danielle,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: I don't want to lead the witness. But how are
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: you feeling about Sherry and Christopher's chances? Not high? Sorry,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: not high? And remember, Danielle, you're under oath not hi.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Why why could possibly what could possibly break these two up?
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: At this point? I don't know. Is he gonna get
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: on his motorcycle and go to California again? Uh? Huh?
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: What's he gonna do? Is he gonna take off? Is
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: he gonna take off? Well we'll see. Hey, lord God,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: I'm in Wisconsin. What are you doing there? When I
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: got my motorcycle? You know? And well, you know, it's
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: like Jesus God, this episode is so dense. I mean,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: I know I say that all the time. But so
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: then we go back to the diner and we see
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: the funny scene between Jess and Kirk, like Kirk's like,
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: I don't want to go home. It's boring there, like
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: my chev is broken. And then incomes Luke and Nicole,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: which I saw him perfectly pull out her chair, which
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: I thought was so charming. And then you know they're
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: having their coffee and Jess was like, I'm going out
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: for about an hour just being guy code right Luke Luke,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: He's like, huh what and then Luke takes him outside
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: to like give Kirk unless you need lunder over having
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Kurt leans over Nicole. They have amazing communication. So what
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: do you think of What do you think of Nicole
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: and Luke? I think he likes her and he's excited,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: and you know they're they're having a good time there.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: They're conversing well, you know, he's, uh, he's keeping up
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: with a lawyer. You know, she's a smart, smarty smart
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: So he's feeling pretty good about himself because he's able
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: to keep up and keep her interesting. Yeah, she's a
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: little fancy for him, so he's he's all jazzed up. Man.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: That's a that's a step up right for it. I
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: like it. It's cute, that's cute. She's a city gal.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: She's coming on, So everybody stay tuned because Scott's going
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: to be interviewing and spending some time this week. I
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: think with Nicole, lahy Nicole, Okay. So then Chris, So
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: we go back to the hospital and Christopher comes out
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: and Rory's sleeping and he says to Laurel, I like,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: do you want to come see the baby? And I
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: just wrote of my notes, wow, wow, wow, like this
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: is so messy, but wow, like it was just how
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: do you describe heaviness, happiness, sadness all at the same time.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know that I read happiness and Laureli was
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: reaction to all of that. What I read. What I
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: read was that definitely the heaviness and the complications and
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: neon we and what could have been with this guy,
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: and what could have been with her life had this
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: guy not, you know, had a little more control, Because
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: I do think there's a part of lord line that's
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: happy that Rory has a sister. Yeah, but yeah, probably,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: But I think it really that moment was about her
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: and taking stock in her life and how complicated things
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: get and how unpredictable things are, all the conflicting feelings
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: she's having. I mean, this did I make the right
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: decision because because it ultimately comes down to one woman,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: one girl making a decision that's going to affect the
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: rest of her life, or two decisions, one having the
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: baby to leaving her family. So two huge decisions that
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: she made, and the you know, the ripple effect of
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: this decision is continuing. You know, the waves are coming
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: back at her now, so you know, and they're hitting
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: or they're lapping up against her shore line. Yeah, it
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: was excruciating to watch, like the hearts broke for her.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Oh god, she's got to see this baby. And then
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: he is so elated it like this is so amazing
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: And I wanted to be like, hey, ask you have
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: another kid. Yeah. I feel like in this part, I
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: was like loyal is looking at this being like this
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: could have been us, This should have been us. Heyes,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: seriously I thought that. I was like, isn't she the
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: most beautiful ever? And it's like d word no. But
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: she played it perfectly. I mean she played it beautifully,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: didn't she. I Mean, those that's that's the hard hardest
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: part of acting sometimes and she did it so well,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: so well. So proud of her, you know, so proud
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: of her because that's a tough that's a tough situation
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: that for the character, that's a tough situation of being
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: got to play all those conflicting emotions. Speaking of conflicting,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: then we end this episode with two of the most
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: powerful scenes at the same time, because it is the
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: DVD player. She just shows up with the DVD player
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: and all the movies her mom would want. We then
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: flash back to the scene we've talked about this whole
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: episode of Emily in her fancy eighties gown realizing they're gone,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: her daughter, her baby, and her grand baby. And then
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: we flash back to Laura La saying I can figure
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: out how to set this up. Yeah, I'll go up
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: to the bedroom TV, you know, like and Emily giving
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: the classic line like you could ruin her TV set,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: which is like what everyone says when you're like a
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: young person trying to like give them some new technology.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: I just thought, god, wow, and I just wrote crying again.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: I mean I cried through both those scenes and the
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: episode ended, and it was a good I was still
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: crying as I went to the bathroom, like brush my teeth.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: Oh you know, yeah, I was at EP two. I mean,
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: it made me miss my my family so much, thirty
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: miles away from them. They're they're coming, They're coming. Yeah,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: So for everyone listening. So Scott's working, which we've talked about,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: and his family isn't with him, and this poor Scott,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: Like I'm so of all the episodes, we couldn't just
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: throw Scott like a funny one. We have to throw
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: literally want not like something, and we just give him
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: the most right. It is the most powerful so far. Absolutely,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, this was just you know, this was ground shocking.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: This was shock and all. I was just like, wow,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: um and so well done because I love I just
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: I had the same reaction at the young Lorra ly
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: and the young Christopher that first I was really like,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: that's not Christopher, that's not Loria Lye. And then by
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: the end of the episode, I was literally like, Okay,
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: they were great. Yeah, yeah, they were great. Yeah. It
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: was great risk too, I mean a risk to do
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: the episode this way. Um, no, it's definitely paid off.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: You think that's how I think they know exactly. I
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: think I think Amy and Dan know exactly when to
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: do something like this. This was the moment, This was
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: a perfect moment to do this. It was completely unexpected,
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: We've never seen it before. It was shocking. It was
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: shocking to me because I said, because I said to myself,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: I said, no, they're not going to do this. Wow,
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: what I mean? That's like George Blenda going out there
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: on the tight rope, you know, with no net and
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: and it's like they're walking the tight rope, but this
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: one and they pulled it off beautifully. Say, season three
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: is quite the season. We've had many episodes that are
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: probably the best of the whole series. Like for a
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: show to just get better and better as the seasons
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: go on, you see how much easier it is. This
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: is also another example of why teen shows are so
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: popular with networks, because there's just so much easier to do.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, teens don't even have to be doing very much.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be that much going on. It's
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: just like, look good, their clothes are cool, they're saying
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: the right things. We're gonna watch it. Do you consider this?
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: But adults cannot get away with that. They have to
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: have this level of drama and Injurgue that we saw
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: today to keep it really engaging. Half a teen show,
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: A teen show? What do you consider this show? Yeah?
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: I think it's like half and half. I mean, I mean,
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: it's a young network, right, look, and I think a
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: me and Dan are smart enough to realize that the
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: teen stuff ain't gonna work as stand alone and an
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: adult stuff ain't gonna work as stand alone. They it's
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: it's it's a symbiotic relationship between the teen and the adults.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: So they I mean, if you think about other other
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: shows at the time, it was, this isn't Friends, this
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: isn't the West Wing. It's a drama. Y m hmm.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: It's got you know, but it is young. It is
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: teen in many ways. Yes, c WC always always a
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: younger demo, but you know, this show broke out into
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: other demos as well. I feel like the grandma's love
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: this show. They do. You know, I'm getting approached every
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: day all day up here whoever you can get with
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: your daughter and your mom, you know, like if you're
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: it's three generations can watch it together. It's no question
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: about it. It spans all generations. It's it's really amazing,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: really really amazing, And we've talked about it so much
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: it will continue to. But the difference between the way
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: I see it now and the way I saw it
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: twenty years ago. Is I don't know that I cried
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: at this episode twenty years ago. M hmm, I don't know.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: I know, I didn't. I didn't see it. I just
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: had to do my what couple of scenes and then
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: go to Colorado. She had great scenes in this show
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: that I did. I really enjoyed that. I enjoyed it.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: So next week we're gonna do Swan Song its episode fourteen,
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: season three. Man, we're three course away through almost three
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: course away through season three. Yeah, it's Lucky off a job.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: What what what? No, No, got a long way. We've
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: got a long way to go, and I'm doing now.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: I have to do podcast and the commercials that appeared
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: on Gilmore Girls. You know, I'm telling you, bun heads,
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: we after we finished Gilmore. That doesn't matter, sense, it
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. You're gonna you're gonna make
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: me watch Oh Love. We'll see at the time we
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: finished the movies, they'll be the pretty cool. Yeah, they've
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: got years. They've got a couple of years, so you're good.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Um, hey man, with you, with you
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: two knuckleheads, I'll talk about anything. And Scott I know
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: too much fun. We're thinking of you, like we're so sorry.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: We're happy that you have this great job, but we're
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: we are sorry that you're there. Like the life of
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: an actor is not all unicorns and rainbows. For Scott's
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: just like a loan in a random city. I am.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: I'm keeping busy though. You know what I did today.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: I ran up There's a very steep hill here, and
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: I ran up that hill about ten times until I
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: was so exhausted. I wasn't feeling I couldn't even feel
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: my face, you know what I was just saying. But
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: it's but, but I like the weather. You know, it's
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: not hot, it's sixty degrees and cloudy, and your run
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: up the hills and then it's sunny. Right, It's great.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: But we do. Yeah, especially after this episode, it's like
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: poor Scott came to see him alone in his like
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: place that they're just crying. Hopefully Swan Song isn't much
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: happier uplifting lifting episode. So I have I have all
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: these videos of my son, uh you know, doing his robotics,
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: doing his karate and karate class on my phone, and
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: I spend so much time watching these videos. Seriously, I know.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like you know, and I'm laughing, laughing, laughing, laughing.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: And then before I have to go to bed, I
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: cry because I missed my little guy. You know. Well,
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: and you've been with the NonStop. This is your first
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: time like being away from him. Huh um. Well, you
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: know when I do a convention, yeah, I'll go for
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: like three four days. I went to I went to
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: Europe a few times, two conventions. That's five days, and
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: that was tough. He was much younger, but it was
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: just still tough. But now it's been you know, it's
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: been like you know, I left. I left eight weeks. Yeah,
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: you're two weeks. It's it's hard, man. Yeah, I just
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: you know, before I came hold you guys, I texted
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: my wife. I said, you need to you need to
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: face time me. I am not doing well because I
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: just finished this episode. I'm all by myself in tears.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: I need to talk to somebody. Okay, good, So let's
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: do Let's do this every day and suddenly every day. Yeah,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: we'll put up about three we'll do fifteen episodes a week.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: We'll release fifteen in a week. It's not too much work,
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: is it. Well, like we said later this week Nicole
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: Lady and pop culture, so you get to see us
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: two more times. All right, let's so anyway, gug great episode,
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: thanks for downloading. We're gonna wrap this puppy up in
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: a nice ribbon and bow, nice wrapping paper. Uh. Perfect episode,
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: my favorite. Um, the funniest, the most heartbreaking, the most
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: searing drama. Um, well done. Bravo. Thank you ladies, and uh,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: thank you everybody. We'll see you next time. Stay safe. Yeah,
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