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AI As A ”Cognitive Acid Test” for Leaders, with Eric Saylors

In this podcast episode, Dr. Jonathan H. Westover talks with Eric Saylors about how AI is a "cognitive acid test" for leaders. Eric Saylors is the author of Quantifying a Negative (2015), Sense Making in Risk Assessments (2022), and The 7-Year Active Shooter Study (2026). He is a Fire Chief with over 30 years of experience and holds a Doctorate in Leadership from the University of Southern California. In addition to serving as Product Lead for HEN Technologies, Eric currently serves as Fire Chief of the El Cerrito–Kensington Fire Department, having previously spent 25 years with the…

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