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Football at Four: What are the Expectations for the Eagles Passing Game this Season? · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Jeff Boscher from the Inside of the Birds podcast is here.
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  Speaker 1: I got a lot of Eagles stuff, with a lot
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  Speaker 1: of football stuff today, got into a good conversation of
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles. That's take on it. So I was bringing
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  Speaker 1: up the conversation regarding Jalen Hurts and yesterday, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we were talking about Adam Schefter saying that the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: could be training AJ Brown and it's for a twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty eight first round pick. So that kind of was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you're getting to pick two years from now, So I
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  Speaker 1: want to get your take on this. Jeff Moscher, one,
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  Speaker 1: are they like using this year to analyze whether or
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  Speaker 1: not Jalen Hurts is the right guy for this offense
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  Speaker 1: and judging him based on this particular season to say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna make it. This year is about learning about
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  Speaker 1: whether or not you are capable to run this offense.
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  Speaker 1: Forget everything else that goes on. It's about finding out
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  Speaker 1: about whether you're the right guy to run this offense.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'll answer that independent of the AJ Brown
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight for because I get where you're going
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  Speaker 2: with it.
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  Speaker 1: But you're not getting anything help. You're not getting anything
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  Speaker 1: to replace aj Brown. So this offense is basically this
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  Speaker 1: is what our offense is, Jalen. We want to find
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  Speaker 1: out whether or not you can run the offense or not.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, wouldn't you say that that's yeah. I mean
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  Speaker 2: you're bringing in a new offensive coordinator, You're ushering in
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  Speaker 2: a new offense, You've changed the personnel offensively. You know,
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  Speaker 2: Adam and I are knee deep into a great podcast
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  Speaker 2: series right now on Inside the Birds looking at the
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  Speaker 2: depth chart, and if you go look at the depth
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  Speaker 2: chart at wide receiver, at tight end, there's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: a lot of new names, which means a lot of
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  Speaker 2: new packages, a lot of new formations, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: different play calls because of it's a different style of offense.
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  Speaker 2: So they've made their end of the bargain the Eagles
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  Speaker 2: as far as saying no more of the old stuff.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna give this all defensive facelift. We're gonna get
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  Speaker 2: the guy that we think can bring that facelift, and
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  Speaker 2: then we're gonna get the personnel that can make these
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  Speaker 2: plays happen, and then that fits what we want to
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  Speaker 2: do offensively. And to your point, Jalen Hurts, does enter,
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to say it doesn't enter the last
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  Speaker 2: year of his contract, but after this year, the guaranteed
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  Speaker 2: money on the contract is much more negligible than it
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  Speaker 2: would be if it was entering last year or this year.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, there'll be a decision made in some form
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  Speaker 2: or fashion about his contract after this year. And that's
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  Speaker 2: either he's probably gonna get it ripped up and againt
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  Speaker 2: a new one, or he's not, and then it might
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  Speaker 2: be a change.
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  Speaker 1: Right. So I asked the question in that capacity for
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  Speaker 1: multitude of reasons, the first one being so a couple
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  Speaker 1: of years ago they were able to pivot their philosophy.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna run the ball and use the offensive line. So,
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  Speaker 1: in other words, if this offense doesn't work, do they
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  Speaker 1: have a pivot? Is there? Because before they had Jeff
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  Speaker 1: Statlin in this line and they ran the ball, so
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  Speaker 1: they were able to pivot to that. They're putting all
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  Speaker 1: their chips into this, and this is almost like you
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  Speaker 1: better sink or swim, Jalen hurts, because we don't have
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  Speaker 1: another way to kind of pivot if you do not succeed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm laughing because I feel I understand the absolute
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  Speaker 2: genesis of your question, and but I do feel like
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  Speaker 2: you're baiting me into getting fans very mad at me.
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  Speaker 2: But the obvious, the obvious, the obvious pivot is going
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  Speaker 2: to Tanner McKee if the offense doesn't work really well
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  Speaker 2: for you.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even know you were going to go there.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, where else would you go?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, well, that's my That's my point is essentially
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  Speaker 1: they are putting a lot of stock in the Jalen
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  Speaker 1: Hurts is going to be able to run this the
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  Speaker 1: way they want it done. And what if it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: work out? What I mean, you're two and five after
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  Speaker 1: seven games, then what.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like to think that's one of those great we
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  Speaker 2: have to get there to see what happens type of questions.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the pivot can't be We'll just go back
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  Speaker 2: to running the ball because they want to run the
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  Speaker 2: ball anyway. That's the whole idea of this offense was
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  Speaker 2: to still be able to run the ball and marry
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  Speaker 2: it to a play action pass game, and just that
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  Speaker 2: it's not to make the passing game more voluminous. It's
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  Speaker 2: just to make it more impactful as you continue to
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  Speaker 2: run the ball. So that's the point. So there's no
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  Speaker 2: pivot to if the pass offense isn't working, or if
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  Speaker 2: the offense isn't working, it's not just keep running the
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  Speaker 2: ball and get by. It would be a change at
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  Speaker 2: the quarterback position. So I don't I'm not telling you
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  Speaker 2: I think that's gonna happen. I'm just answering your question
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  Speaker 2: of if they really go far south?
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  Speaker 1: So right, Well, we were looking at because a lot
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  Speaker 1: of it came up with the conversation about what we
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  Speaker 1: had the other day about Lemon and the role that
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  Speaker 1: we perceive him is do we look at him as
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  Speaker 1: strictly a slot guy? No, and that they got this
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  Speaker 1: particular guy to make the middle of the field more
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  Speaker 1: attractive for Jalen Hurts. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I think that he is one of several
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  Speaker 2: players that will make the middle of the field more
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  Speaker 2: attractive for Jalen Hurts, and that includes having Dallas Goddard
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  Speaker 2: come back and includes Eli Stowers at tight end.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: And for people who do listen to the next inside
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  Speaker 2: the Birds, we talked about the wide receiver depth chart.
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  Speaker 2: There are many players that they have that you might
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  Speaker 2: think are X receivers, you know, because of height or weight,
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  Speaker 2: but they have slot experience where can play in the
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  Speaker 2: slot at times as well, and the offensive function itself.
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  Speaker 2: Using bunch formations, trips formations, reduced formations where the receivers
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  Speaker 2: line up tighter to the line of scrimmage are all
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  Speaker 2: ways to capitalize on using space in the middle field
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  Speaker 2: and creating mismatches there. So it's really not about one
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  Speaker 2: or two guys to me, it's about your whole offensive
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  Speaker 2: concept and the people you've added.
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  Speaker 1: Right, So, you know, we were talking about Lemon. He
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  Speaker 1: lined up premierly in the slot sixty percent of the time,
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  Speaker 1: but I was surprised to see how much Devonte Smith
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  Speaker 1: lined up in the slot last year. I was about
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  Speaker 1: fifty percent of the time. Is that something that you
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  Speaker 1: think they still want to do with Smith or is
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  Speaker 1: Lemon here to keep Smith more primarily on the outside
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  Speaker 1: or do they interchange those two?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's things you want to do and
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  Speaker 2: there's things you have to do. If you go back
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  Speaker 2: to the last two years, the Egles didn't have a
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  Speaker 2: traditional slot receiver. Johan Dotson haven't had one for a
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  Speaker 2: while exactly. And it's funny because on this podcast that
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  Speaker 2: Adam and I did that'll be out tomorrow if you
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  Speaker 2: watch it on YouTube. You could see me jumping for
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  Speaker 2: joy just talking about the Eagles actually having slot receivers
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  Speaker 2: because I've actually been saying for years I felt they
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  Speaker 2: really needed one, and now they have guys who can
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  Speaker 2: play the slot and really excel there, especially Lemon. But
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  Speaker 2: to your point, the fifty percent slot on DeVante Smith
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  Speaker 2: wasn't oh, the Eagles really like to use DeVante Smith
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  Speaker 2: as in the slot. It was you need to be
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  Speaker 2: able to rotate them there because h. Dotson is not
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  Speaker 2: necessarily a full time slot receiver either, So they had
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  Speaker 2: to do everything they could well.
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  Speaker 1: And the way that I, you know, looked at it,
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Bosher Football four with us, is Dotson not a
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  Speaker 1: true slot guy? How much did that prevent Hurts from
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  Speaker 1: trusting that those guys because they weren't really there? And
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  Speaker 1: and I go back to the article that Andrew wrote
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  Speaker 1: very eloquently about how eloquent and precise the routes were
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  Speaker 1: for Lemon. In other words, if I throw the ball
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  Speaker 1: over the middle, I can trust that this guy's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be where he says he's gonna be. I'm not sure
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  Speaker 1: I could trust that Dotson was going to be there.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if it was a trust issue, I
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  Speaker 2: think it's more of a comfortay, And that that leads
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  Speaker 2: into your question about whether or not the offense really
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  Speaker 2: will function this year, because we know that the quarterback
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  Speaker 2: there are times where he just does not throw it
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  Speaker 2: to open receivers over the middle of the field. That's
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  Speaker 2: why I don't think it's a trust thing, because there
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  Speaker 2: were plenty of times where you know, would do the
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  Speaker 2: show inside the tape with Greg Cosel and we would
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  Speaker 2: break down all the tape and we would show, you know,
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  Speaker 2: depending on the game, three four or five times where
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  Speaker 2: there's a guy wide open in the middle and he
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  Speaker 2: just did not want to throw that ball there, even
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  Speaker 2: though there wasn't really the window was pretty pretty wide
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  Speaker 2: and only only Jalen Hurts. You have to be in
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  Speaker 2: his head to know why he wouldn't, whether that was
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  Speaker 2: trust or comfort. But if it's a trust thing, it
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  Speaker 2: would be strange why you wouldn't trust somebody who's wide open.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was just more of a comfort.
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  Speaker 1: Thing, yeah, and I agree with I do agree with that,
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  Speaker 1: and it's going to be interesting to see.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know if like to your point, like
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  Speaker 2: just making Makay Lemon there and putting him there, does
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  Speaker 2: that make Hurts throw the ball more?
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's something that they have to work on
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  Speaker 2: with Jalen, and Jalen has to be a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more proactive with himself on is seeing those opportunities that
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  Speaker 2: are what they call layups or schemed open plays where
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  Speaker 2: the play is there to step on your back foot
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  Speaker 2: or plant your black backfoot and fire it when it's there.
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  Speaker 2: And he they got to get him. He needs to
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  Speaker 2: get himself in position to do that more so that
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  Speaker 2: they can move the chains. He'd make it easier on him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, so is this a much more timing and
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  Speaker 1: rhythm type of offense as opposed to what they were
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  Speaker 1: what he's used to.
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  Speaker 2: I gues timing and rhythm will be a big part.
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  Speaker 2: It's always been a big part of the Shanahan McVeigh
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  Speaker 2: Lafloor offenses. You don't have to be Drew Brees. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Jordan Love to me is a guy who in Green
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  Speaker 2: Bay doesn't always have the quickest trigger trigger right. He'll
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  Speaker 2: he'll kind of maneuver around the pocket times. He loves
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  Speaker 2: to throw the ball deep, just like Jalen Hurts. He
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  Speaker 2: does have I probably has a tick better of a
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  Speaker 2: timing and anticipation type throw. But he's not necessarily someone
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  Speaker 2: you would say surgical, right like Drew Brees. You don't
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  Speaker 2: have to be I feel like like I'm just examining
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  Speaker 2: other offense quarter this offense. I'm not hierarchying it. But
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  Speaker 2: Brock Purdy can only play that way. He doesn't have
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  Speaker 2: a very strong arm. He's not a not a big
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  Speaker 2: guy like he's got to be able to make those quick,
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  Speaker 2: decisive throws that are there over the middle because there
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  Speaker 2: isn't a whole lot of special, elite traits to his
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  Speaker 2: game that he can compensate with. If that makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, this is the question is not to be a
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  Speaker 1: disparaging answer. Okay, all right, I'll try. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: know the answer to this question. I had a hard
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  Speaker 1: time answering to myself. And I'm no Jalen Hurts hater
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  Speaker 1: by any stretch. What would we say that Jalen does
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  Speaker 1: really well?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, he throws a deep ball as good
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  Speaker 2: as anybody in the league. There's there's no question about it.
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  Speaker 1: I okay, So that something is that something that will
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  Speaker 1: be prominent in this offense.
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  Speaker 2: I think in every offense he got a deep ball.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So yes, so he throws the deep ball really well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he throws the deep ball really well. I think
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  Speaker 2: he's a good pre snap reader in terms of he
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  Speaker 2: knows what the defense is pre snap and where the
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  Speaker 2: openings are going to be. He has a high completion percentage.
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  Speaker 2: That's not an accident. That's being very smart before the
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  Speaker 2: ball is snapped and knowing what you want to do
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  Speaker 2: with the football. And I do feel like as long
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  Speaker 2: as he's generally protected or generally has his feet set,
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  Speaker 2: his ball placement is pretty good. It's in the upper
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  Speaker 2: echelon of the league. It falls off when he's running
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  Speaker 2: around the pocket or holding onto the ball a little
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  Speaker 2: bit too long. But there are guys who I think
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  Speaker 2: do have good protection and don't always have great ball placement.
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  Speaker 2: So I think that's something he does really well.
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  Speaker 1: Because, like you know, one of the things you kind
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  Speaker 1: of I said, I don't know how to answer it,
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  Speaker 1: but it's in eight. I don't know what it is,
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  Speaker 1: but he's in eight. And one of the things when
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  Speaker 1: they've won Super Bowl and made it to the Super Bowl,
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  Speaker 1: when he's been at his best. I feel like in
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  Speaker 1: those years, especially in twenty twenty two, when they ran
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  Speaker 1: a lot of RPO, he made the right decision on
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  Speaker 1: the RPO ninety five percent of the time. It felt
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  Speaker 1: like he made the right decision every single time. And
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  Speaker 1: then as it's gone on here, have they pealed it
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  Speaker 1: into his head so much to not turn the ball over?
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  Speaker 1: Has that made him too safe? Or is he a
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  Speaker 1: good decision maker that he doesn't turn the ball over?
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  Speaker 1: Which one is it?
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  Speaker 2: Well? I think he is a very good decision maker,
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  Speaker 2: and he seems to be very confident innately, as you said,
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  Speaker 2: in his ability to take sacks without turning the ball over,
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  Speaker 2: because clearly one of the weaknesses of his game is
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  Speaker 2: holding onto the ball in the pocket a tad tooo long,
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  Speaker 2: and he does get sacked. He has one of the
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  Speaker 2: highest sack percentages over the last three years in the
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  Speaker 2: NFL for starting quarterbacks, which is sort of weird because
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  Speaker 2: for the most part, their offensive line has been very
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  Speaker 2: good over the last three years. I know last year
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  Speaker 2: wasn't as good, and they have a lot of good
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  Speaker 2: weapons who you can get the ball too quickly, so
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  Speaker 2: he shouldn't have that high of a sack percentage. But
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  Speaker 2: for somebody who gets hit that much, he holds onto
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  Speaker 2: the ball. He doesn't fumble very often. And because of that,
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  Speaker 2: also he doesn't rush the throw and throw a pick
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  Speaker 2: very often. So that's sort of the trade off with it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, like I said, I wasn't you know,
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  Speaker 1: we were talking about like what is it because when
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  Speaker 1: people get like, you know, he's not in the top
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  Speaker 1: five or why don't you have him in your top ten?
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  Speaker 1: And it's like it's so hard to describe, like what
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  Speaker 1: are the things that he does really well that would
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  Speaker 1: put him in a category where like I said, the
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  Speaker 1: guy won the Super Bowl, he's a Super Bowl MVP.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that there's any organization that's saying if
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  Speaker 1: I'm starting my franchise, that's the guy I'm drafting.
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  Speaker 2: No, And that's okay. You know, Joe Flacco won a
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowl as MVP. Russell Wilson won a Super Bowl
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  Speaker 2: went to Russell Wilson has the same career basically after
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  Speaker 2: eight years as Jalen hurts Right went to two Super Bowls.
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  Speaker 2: One one of them played really well and the one
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  Speaker 2: that they lost just didn't make the last play at
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  Speaker 2: the end. Of the game, but things fell off for Russell.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that that's going to happen to Jail.
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  Speaker 2: And what I'm saying is it's not so absurd to
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  Speaker 2: have a Super Bowl MVP who is not considered the
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  Speaker 2: greatest player at.
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  Speaker 1: His position, no question.
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  Speaker 2: I just find wards a Super Bowl MVP great receiver.
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  Speaker 2: It was never the best receiver in the.
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  Speaker 1: League, right. I totally agree with what you're saying. I
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  Speaker 1: just find it to be very interesting, probably trying to
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  Speaker 1: think of another quarterback that has had the success, the
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  Speaker 1: amount of wins and the success in accolades that Jalen
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  Speaker 1: has where the team has said we're going to change
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  Speaker 1: the whole offense after all the success.
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  Speaker 2: I think it took a little bit longer. But I
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  Speaker 2: think the Flacco example is pretty cood. I mean, they
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  Speaker 2: were in the playoffs every single year, they went to
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  Speaker 2: a Super Bowl, they won it. He was on fire,
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  Speaker 2: he was the MVP. I think the year before that
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  Speaker 2: or two years before that, they nearly beat New England
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  Speaker 2: in New England the NFC Championship game and Lee Evans
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  Speaker 2: dropped the pass from Flacco in the bottom of the
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  Speaker 2: back of the end zone that would have sent them
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  Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl, so it wasn't his fault. And
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  Speaker 2: he had a really good career, but he was never
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  Speaker 2: considered the greatest. He always had some flaws, and then
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  Speaker 2: when he got a little older and things started to
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  Speaker 2: go south a little bit. Then they eventually went onto
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  Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson then completely changed up everything they did. You know.
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  Speaker 1: Well, And it's funny you say that because I don't
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  Speaker 1: know that anybody ever looked at Flacco as the reason, right.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of hard to if people remember
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  Speaker 2: when they won the Super Bowl, he was freaking unbelievable, So.
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  Speaker 1: Wasn't that like a surprise.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, don't you think it was a surprise
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  Speaker 2: when Jalen Hurts dropped all that. I mean, let's be honest.
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  Speaker 2: For most of the year, for most of twenty twenty four,
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  Speaker 2: the offense was sporadic, It was not great. And then
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  Speaker 2: but when it was time to turn it on, he
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  Speaker 2: turned it on. And by the way, they had a
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  Speaker 2: plus twelve turnover ratio. That really helps when your defense
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  Speaker 2: is that good. But same thing with Baltimore. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Joe Flacco had a great defense that put the offense
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  Speaker 2: in really good spots. A lot.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, it was fun.
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  Speaker 2: I think the issue is that Philadelphia didn't have much
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  Speaker 2: of a Super Bowl history, if any, obviously, only one
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  Speaker 2: in fifty two years. And then along came Jalen Hurts
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  Speaker 2: and they've been to two and they've had unprecedented success,
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  Speaker 2: and he's the quarterback, and therefore there has to be
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: some kind of parallels run between that and sort of
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: him being like this ungodly type of player. No, it
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: was a great team. It's a very very good team.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's like he's already proven that he
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: can win the super Bowl. Well, it's like Kenny win two.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like you get that, so
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: you get like, you can't win a super Bowl with
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Jayler Hurts. Well you've already won one. Well you can't
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: win another one. You know. It's almost like you become
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: so obtuse to the fact that because you won one,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: now it's that you can't win again because you've already
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: won one with that guy. Right.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a it's an interesting dynamic.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: By the way, one of any.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: Other quarterbacks would fall in into that court category. But
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: you know, sometimes there are really great quarterbacks that don't
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: even make it to the Super Bowl, so and you
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: get the other end of the spectrum.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: You guys talked about it on the inside of the
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Birds podcast about the depth chart stuff, and one of
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: the areas was running back. I'm very intrigued by this
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: because of what we're saying, where do you pivot? And
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: you're saying, well, they still want to run the ball.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Can they still feature Barkley as much as they have
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: the last two years or do they have to mix
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: in someone a little bit more? Allah many of these
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: teams around the league, you know, you have many teams
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: split the carries. Very few teams go with one guy.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Philadelphia is one of them.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we were doing the show Adam and
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: I and it's I think that's the one that's up
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: today and listen. It's it's hard not to talk out
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: of both sides of your mouth when you're talking about it,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: because on one hand, both of us feel like Tank
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Bigsby showed you last year that he can bring I mean,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: he average almost six yards of carry on over fifty carries.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: That's pretty good. So that's like noteworthy to me. So
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: it would be nice to give them the ball a
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: little bit more and then with this new offense, it
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: would be nice to see if will Shipley's he's got
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: more of juice per se than Bigsby, especially to the corner,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: and he can catch the ball. But on the other side, Mike,
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: it's just hard to take Saquon Barkley off the field.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's paid a lot of money and he's good.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: So it's nice to say and sit here and talk
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: about running backs two and three and how you get
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: them more involved. But yeah, you know, look at the
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: workload Christian McCaffrey had for the Niners last year. They
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: didn't want to take him off the field. No one
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: in their right mind could have predicted McCaffrey was gonna
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: get that kind of workload a year after he missed
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: almost the whole year with the calf injuries.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: So you know what ends up happening to some of
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: these guys once they get paid. I now no longer
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: want to use you as much as I should because
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: I don't want you to get hurt because I now
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: paid you.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I appealed the Eagles to not get the memo
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: on that. They ran him into one brick wall after
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: another last year, and they didn't.
• 18:54
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• 18:57
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• 18:59
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• 19:03
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• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Birds dot com, and so do we on football at
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: four here on the Sports Bash. I look forward to
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff this offseason. One will be what
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: this offense, how it implements, and what it looks like
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: moving forward. That to me is going to be a
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: fascinating mini camp, all of it. The first mini camp,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's going to be very interesting. Yes,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: two weeks from now right, something like that.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Usually mini camps aren't, but this one will have a
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: little bit more of a flavor to it, and then
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: training camp will be fascinating all right.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: By the way, it looks like the NFL is pushing
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: back the release of the schedule. I think in another
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: week or so. It's not quite ready yet.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: I guess, right, great, because you know, gotta wait on
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: the schedule. I don't know why, so why they can
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: leak every single game that's going to be on Amazon
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: and ESPN and yeah, one day at a time.
• 19:57
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• 20:01
  Speaker 2: I'm sending all my YouTube comments you're away, Mike, You're
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: gonna have to answer for them, all right. Geez, well,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: you just let me down the freaking path man.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Jeff Boscher thinks Chatter mcke will take over by week seven.
• 20:17
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