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Sarah's Day Baits Baby Number 4 · Outspoken the Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken.
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Speaker 2: It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture
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Speaker 2: news twice a week.
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Speaker 1: I'm Sophie Torber and coming up on.
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Speaker 2: Today's show, Sarah's Day fuels speculation of baby number four,
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Speaker 2: Tyson Fury's daughter's shock engagement at a 16th birthday party,
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Speaker 2: and the Daily Mail thinks they know why Tammy Hembrough
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Speaker 2: was friend-zoned by Bailey Smith. But first, Sky Wheatley's baby daddy,
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Speaker 2: Lockie Waugh, has shared disturbing footage of him drinking and
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Speaker 2: burning items at their home. Lockie's erratic behavior comes as
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Speaker 2: Sky confirmed the couple's breakup during an Instagram Live last week.
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Speaker 2: Breakup rumors have been following the couple for months now.
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Speaker 2: We did cover the story in depth on Friday's show,
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Speaker 2: so if you missed it, go back and have a listen.
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Speaker 1: But Kate, can you tell us the latest?
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Speaker 2: I have to admit, I found the footage quite unsettling
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Speaker 2: when it popped up on Lockie's Instagram story on Friday night.
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Speaker 1: And it came off the back of Skye.
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Speaker 2: Seemingly accusing Lockie of cheating on her in her Instagram
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Speaker 2: live a few days earlier. Now, the vision was filmed
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Speaker 2: from Lockie's perspective and it was at nighttime and he
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Speaker 2: showed himself standing in the backyard of the property he
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Speaker 2: is renovating with Skye. looking back at the house that
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Speaker 2: was all lit up, and he panned down to the
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Speaker 2: beer he was drinking, and in the background you could
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Speaker 2: hear he was listening to music. In the next frame,
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Speaker 2: Lockie showed himself walking through the empty house, and he
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Speaker 2: stopped in the kitchen where there was this big pile
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Speaker 2: of packed boxes, and he captioned the footage, couple of
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Speaker 2: beers deep, gin next. In the following stories, the packed
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Speaker 2: boxes were then outside in the backyard, and it appears
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Speaker 2: Lockie had poured flammable liquid on the boxes and a
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Speaker 2: line leading from the boxes to him, And so he
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Speaker 2: lit the boxes on fire. It seemed to be for
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Speaker 2: dramatic effect for the Instagram story because, as you said,
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Speaker 2: it was this line of fire.
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Speaker 1: That then quickly moved to burn the boxes.
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Speaker 2: And it was the music he was playing in the
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Speaker 2: background that seemed to get a lot of people's attention. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: the song Lockie was listening to was quite telling. It
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Speaker 2: was called We'll Do and it was by TV on
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Speaker 2: the radio. And the lyrics that played said, Any time
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Speaker 2: we'll do, what choice of words will take me back
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Speaker 2: to you? Your love makes a fool of you you
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Speaker 2: can't seem to understand. A heart doesn't play by rules
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Speaker 2: and love has its own demands, but I'll be there
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Speaker 2: to take care of you if you ever should decide
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Speaker 2: that you don't want to waste your life in the
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Speaker 2: middle of a lovesick lullaby. I would have been really
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Speaker 2: interested to see the behind the scenes filming of this
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Speaker 2: Instagram story because I feel like he waited for that
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Speaker 2: particular lyric to start playing for him to then light
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Speaker 2: everything on fire. Because the song was actually playing in
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Speaker 2: the background. It's not like he added the music on
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Speaker 2: top when he uploaded the story. Now, fortunately, it appears
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Speaker 2: Sky and the couple's young sons, Forrest and Bette, weren't
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Speaker 2: at the house. They still appear to be holidaying on
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Speaker 2: the Gold Coast. I really hope that Lockie's okay. He
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Speaker 2: has become one of my favorite boyfriends of Instagram. And obviously,
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Speaker 2: this breakup has hit him very hard. We did joke
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Speaker 2: on Friday's show that we enjoy the rogueness of some
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Speaker 2: of the Instagram stories. I mean, there was that infamous
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Speaker 2: sausages and saunas incident.
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Speaker 1: So I would like to see more humor, not so
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Speaker 1: much this. This was a bit disturbing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, as I said earlier, I found the whole thing
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Speaker 2: pretty unsettling considering we didn't know what was actually in
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Speaker 2: the boxes. Like, was he burning Sky's possessions? Were they
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Speaker 2: his own? Was it just garbage that was inside the
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Speaker 2: house because they're doing renovations? Like, it was all very confusing.
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Speaker 2: It did appear that this incident was alcohol-fueled because he
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Speaker 2: did show that.
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Speaker 1: He was drinking. It was a Friday night. You know,
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Speaker 1: it's sad that he appeared to be by himself.
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Speaker 2: He obviously also knows that eyeballs are going to be
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Speaker 2: on his Instagram at the moment. When we shared a
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Speaker 2: link to that story, we had so many click-throughs. It's
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Speaker 2: probably the most we've had in a while. There are
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Speaker 2: a lot of people interested in this breakup. And I'm
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Speaker 2: sure he's noticed an influx of people clicking on his
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Speaker 2: Instagram stories. So he wanted to send a message or
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Speaker 2: show the mindset that he's in at the moment. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I just really hope everyone that's involved is okay. Because again,
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Speaker 2: we're not really sure what message he was trying to send.
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Speaker 2: It was all very confusing. She's not a big footy fan.
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Speaker 1: And they were just mates, so.
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Speaker 2: The Daily Mail claims to know the real reason why
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Speaker 2: Bailey Smith publicly friend-zoned Tammy Hembrough. The publication ran with
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Speaker 2: some downright sexist quotes that have got us really riled up. Soph,
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Speaker 2: can you tell us more? Well, the publication ran with
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Speaker 2: a story that Matt Sikowsky's friends have gone to Bailey
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Speaker 2: Smith and warned him about dating her. So an unnamed
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Speaker 2: insider was quoted as saying, a few of Matt's mates
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Speaker 2: got in Bailey's ear and told him what had really
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Speaker 2: gone down. It didn't paint Tammy in the best light.
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Speaker 2: Bailey appreciated the heads up and it definitely made him
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Speaker 2: rethink whether it was a good idea. Another insider allegedly
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Speaker 2: said he was open to seeing where things could go,
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Speaker 2: but in the end he called time.
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Speaker 1: I actually wouldn't.
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Speaker 2: Be surprised if this has happened because I think we
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Speaker 2: mentioned it a couple of weeks ago, but we received
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Speaker 2: a couple of DMs and other people in the media
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Speaker 2: have been receiving DMs from Matt Zukowski's friends who are
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Speaker 2: pushing a particular story about Tammy Hembrough and the reasons
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Speaker 2: why they broke up. And it is not a flattering
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Speaker 2: portrayal of Tammy by any means. I think it's disappointing
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Speaker 2: that if this is the case that Bailey actually took
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Speaker 2: it on board because, you know, someone's ex is always
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Speaker 2: going to be peddling negative stories about them.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I want to point out we don't even
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Speaker 1: know if this is true.
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Speaker 2: The Daily Mail could have just created this story because
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Speaker 2: they've heard that the friends are.
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Speaker 1: Pushing a particular story. It doesn't mean that Bailey believes them. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: very true.
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Speaker 2: The Daily Mail also alleged that Bailey had already moved
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Speaker 2: on and was, quote, knee deep in DMs with women
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Speaker 2: aged 21 and 22. The insider was quoted as saying,
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Speaker 2: he's let a couple of girls know the Tammy chapter
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Speaker 2: is over. He's dodged a bullet and he knows that
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Speaker 2: he's back on the prow for women his own age
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Speaker 2: with less baggage.
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Speaker 1: So there's a real emphasis on the fact that Tammy
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Speaker 1: is older. She's a mom. She's 31. Where is He's
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Speaker 1: more interested in going for the younger Gen Z girls.
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Speaker 1: Oh my God. I was so disgusted by these sexist
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Speaker 1: and ageist quotes. It's like, she's 31 for goodness sake.
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Speaker 1: She's not even old. Like it's so ridiculous.
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Speaker 2: And I really think this all comes down to Bailey's
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Speaker 2: choice of words during the Kyle and Jackie O interview,
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Speaker 2: because by saying we're just friends, it really gives this
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Speaker 2: connotation that Tammy was the one wanting more.
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Speaker 1: And he said, no.
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Speaker 2: Last week, we did say that we were surprised that
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Speaker 2: Bailey Smith was allowed to actually appear on the Kyle
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Speaker 2: and Jackie O show because It seemed like he'd been
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Speaker 2: told by the Geelong coaching staff that he needed to
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Speaker 2: focus on football rather than his personal life. Because I mean,
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Speaker 2: if you're a Geelong fan, you're going to be pretty
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Speaker 2: pissed off if he suddenly starts to perform badly. And
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Speaker 2: you're thinking, well, it's because he's got so much media
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Speaker 2: focus on this new relationship. So his decision to take
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Speaker 2: part in an interview that was clearly going to be
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Speaker 2: about Tammy right before the Brownlow, it didn't really make sense.
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Speaker 2: And I'm starting to think now that it was a
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Speaker 2: strategic move because by being the one to address the
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Speaker 2: relationship and say we're just friends, it gave Bailey all
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Speaker 2: of the power. It made it look like he was
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Speaker 2: the one who pulled the pin on things. Yeah, and
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Speaker 2: it didn't take long for most of us, I think
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Speaker 2: us included, to show our internalised misogyny and assume that
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Speaker 2: Tammy was the one who was rejected. And it's crazy
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Speaker 2: when you reflect on the fact that Tammy is the
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Speaker 2: one who is the self-made millionaire in this relationship. She's
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Speaker 2: got three successful businesses, yet we still inherently measure her.
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Speaker 1: Success on being chosen by a man. to attend a
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Speaker 1: football event. I mean, an event that let's face it,
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Speaker 1: she was too big to attend anyway.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, there was a reason why everyone was
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Speaker 2: so excited to see if she stepped on the red
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Speaker 2: carpet or not, because she would have absolutely eclipsed that event. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And it made me reflect on my visceral reaction to
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Speaker 2: listening to Bailey friend zoning Tammy on the Kyle and
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Speaker 2: Jackie O show, because I felt sick. It made me
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Speaker 2: feel embarrassed and kind of reflect on all those times
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Speaker 2: that I've been rejected by men. And sadly, I think
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Speaker 2: it's just ingrained in us as women to measure our
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Speaker 2: worth on if a man chooses us. And I think
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Speaker 2: we all sort of put ourselves in Tammy's shoes. And
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Speaker 2: I mean, I felt very sorry for her, but in reality,
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Speaker 2: who knows what happened? I mean, Tammy may have said, oh,
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm not going to be able to go
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Speaker 2: to the Brownlow. I've got school holidays with my kids.
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Speaker 2: I've got a holiday booked in. And maybe Bailey was
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Speaker 2: the one that felt rejected and got on the Kyle
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Speaker 2: and Jackie O show and was like, oh no, our
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Speaker 2: friends owned her. Like we just don't know what's actually occurred.
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Speaker 2: We also don't know if they're back on. now that
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Speaker 2: the grand final is over, particularly because Bailey Smith and
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Speaker 2: his team did not win the grand final.
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Speaker 1: It was not a good day for Bailey Smith. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I assume he was probably on a bit of a bender.
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Speaker 2: On Saturday night. So maybe Tammy might have got a
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Speaker 2: drunken text message. Who knows?
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Speaker 1: Well, as we're recording this on a Monday afternoon, he's
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Speaker 1: currently on Mad Monday.
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Speaker 2: Look, I think that any girl who's ever dreamed of
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Speaker 2: dating a footballer knows it's not a good time to
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Speaker 2: start things up at the end of the season.
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Speaker 1: There's just so many parties and carry on.
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Speaker 2: Mad Monday is probably the worst down the calendar for
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Speaker 2: every woman who dates an AFL player.
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Speaker 1: Like, it'd be absolutely awful.
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Speaker 2: I remember when we were very much into the footy
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Speaker 2: guys when we were, you know, 19, 20. And anyone
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Speaker 2: from Adelaide knows that you'd always go to the Grand
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Speaker 2: on a Sunday night at the end of the footy
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Speaker 2: season because that's where all of the players would be,
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Speaker 2: but they would be running an absolute mark. The other
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Speaker 2: hotspot for AFL players was the marble bar back in
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Speaker 2: the day.
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Speaker 1: That is now gone. This is a really.
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Speaker 2: Sad confession, but I remember you used to have to
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Speaker 2: pay to get into the marble bar. I think it
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Speaker 2: was $ 10, which would be quite cheap now. And, you know,
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Speaker 2: we were uni students back then with a part-time job.
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Speaker 2: We're like, I'm not wasting the money. So we would
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Speaker 2: send one person in to do a lap of the
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Speaker 2: marble bar, see if there were any footy players in there.
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Speaker 2: And then the rest of us would invest.
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Speaker 1: In going in there. God, how tragic does this sound?
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Speaker 2: It's just so embarrassing reflecting on how you put these
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Speaker 2: footy players on this massive pedestal. All the Gen Zers
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Speaker 2: should be happy though, because they now have access to
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Speaker 2: guys like Bailey Smith on Tinder, instead of having to
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Speaker 2: go to these awful nightclubs.
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Speaker 1: Or just on Instagram.
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Speaker 2: I think it's so much easier to slide into DMs
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Speaker 2: these days. Well, even with Instagram now, I think it's
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Speaker 2: easier to slide into the DMs. I am embarrassed to
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Speaker 2: put that story out there, but I'm confident in doing
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Speaker 2: so because I know there will be listeners who, you know,
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Speaker 2: 10 years ago were doing the exact same thing.
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Speaker 1: I think it's like 15 years ago. Forget that I'm 36.
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Speaker 2: Getting back to Tammy and Bailey, despite Bailey claiming to
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Speaker 2: Kyle and Jackie Yeo that Tammy's not a footy fan
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Speaker 2: and she would have been bored at the Brownlow, it
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Speaker 2: appears she still celebrated grand final day with her family.
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Speaker 2: So she shared a photo of her watching the AFL
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Speaker 2: on the big screen, along with two laptops playing rugby
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Speaker 2: and horse racing. She actually posted this photo to her
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Speaker 2: Instagram grid. So she was keen for people to know
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Speaker 2: she watched the game. Is she stamping her authority back
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Speaker 2: over him? Is that what's going on? Well, the thing is,
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Speaker 2: it's not like it was the full TV screen. Like
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Speaker 2: you kind of had to look at the photo carefully,
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Speaker 2: but you could see it was halftime and you could
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Speaker 2: see Geelong and Brisbane and then the two laptops. Well,
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Speaker 2: in her defense, who's not watching the grand final? I
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Speaker 2: feel like most people get around it. What did you
10:40
Speaker 2: think of Snoop Dogg? I have to call myself out.
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Speaker 2: It was very un-Australian of me. I did not watch
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Speaker 2: one second of it. I didn't even watch the pregame.
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Speaker 2: So you haven't even seen Snoop Dogg popping up on
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Speaker 2: TikTok or anything?
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Speaker 1: I've seen bits and pieces of it, but I mean,
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Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg doesn't really interest me.
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Speaker 2: Like I was interested in Katy Perry last year. We
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Speaker 2: had a family thing because it was my father-in-law's birthday.
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Speaker 2: And it was so funny watching my husband and brother-in-law
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Speaker 2: flock to the TV to watch Snoop Dogg. They were
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Speaker 2: like two teenage boys.
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Speaker 1: Like, oh, my God. So it's clear that they were
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Speaker 1: going for a very male-dominated audience.
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Speaker 2: And I have to say, I did get quite excited
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Speaker 2: when he slinked out onto the oval.
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Speaker 1: But then I got bored by it. Like, once they
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Speaker 1: had the first song, I was like, because they're not
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Speaker 1: really pump-up songs, are they?
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Speaker 2: It wasn't like– Well, from what I saw, it was
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Speaker 2: very static. Like he didn't really move from the stage.
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Speaker 2: I mean, last year, Katy Perry was being driven around
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Speaker 2: the perimeter of the ground.
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Speaker 1: I think it's also the.
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Speaker 2: Fact that Katy Perry has so many mainstream bangers that
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Speaker 2: I think both genders enjoy. But I mean, the AFL
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Speaker 2: is very clever because they're trying to get international.
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Speaker 1: Eyeballs on the halftime. Well, it's not even halftime performance.
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Speaker 1: It's the pregame performance. And it's clearly what happened.
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Speaker 2: You can really tell the difference between, say, the AFL
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Speaker 2: and the NFL in terms of their halftime show because-
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Speaker 2: Back in the day, it used to be just the
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Speaker 2: mascots having a running race.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's still the case.
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Speaker 2: I saw someone reshare, and I don't know how long
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Speaker 2: ago this was, that Kath and Kim were actually part
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Speaker 2: of the pregame entertainment where they did this comedy skit
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Speaker 2: where they were singing on stage.
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Speaker 1: Oh, that would have been great. And they're like, wow,
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Speaker 1: we've come a long way.
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Speaker 2: I did see on Matt Sikowsky's story, the Snoop Dogg
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Speaker 2: was performing at some club in Melbourne and he was
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Speaker 2: pretty much front row. Yeah. Well, how much did they
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Speaker 2: pay Snoop Dogg to appear at the nightclub? Because didn't
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Speaker 2: he get $ 5 million for the AFL grand final performance? Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if he just went rogue and was like,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to do a set here.
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Speaker 2: We kept joking that the second the performance was over,
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Speaker 2: he was on his private jet just counting his money
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Speaker 2: out of there. Well, on the topic of Matt Sikowsky,
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Speaker 2: I feel like he made a little bit of a
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Speaker 2: dig at the Tammy Bailey situation because she He posted
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Speaker 2: a photo on his Instagram story of him celebrating grand
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Speaker 2: final day and he was wearing a Brisbane Bears jersey.
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Speaker 2: So the Brisbane Bears, that was what the Brisbane Lions
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Speaker 2: used to be known as. And I'm like, oh, he's
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Speaker 2: going for Brisbane.
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Speaker 1: Well, how embarrassing would it have been if he got
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Speaker 1: around in a Geelong guernsey?
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Speaker 2: Well, he is an Essendon supporter, but he's obviously wasn't
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Speaker 2: backing the Victorian team that day with Bailey Smith playing
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Speaker 2: for Geelong. I didn't even think pregnancy, baby, until I
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Speaker 2: was complaining to Kurt.
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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I'm pretty sure I'm getting my
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Speaker 1: period back. And he was like, you're not pregnant, are you?
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Speaker 2: Sarah's day has been labeled tone deaf after fueling her
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Speaker 2: own pregnancy rumors. The OG fitness influencer has baited a
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Speaker 2: potential fourth pregnancy twice this month and admitted she was
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Speaker 2: freaking out over supposed pregnancy symptoms.
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Speaker 1: Kate, can you tell us more?
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Speaker 2: Well, at the start of September, Sarah teased on TikTok
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Speaker 2: that she was either pregnant with her fourth baby or
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Speaker 2: her period was returning. She captioned the video, should I
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Speaker 2: be more concerned or do I keep suppressing my internal
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Speaker 2: freak out? And she spoke in length about how her
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Speaker 2: pre-period and pregnancy symptoms are the same, but she actually
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Speaker 2: didn't consider that she could be pregnant until her husband
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Speaker 2: Kurt flagged it with her.
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Speaker 1: She then said this. I'm not baiting you here. I
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Speaker 1: am 99.99999% sure I'm not pregnant.
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Speaker 2: And no, I'm not going to go into the contraception
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Speaker 2: conversation because.
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Speaker 1: You get what you get and you don't get upset.
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Speaker 1: Meaning I tell you what I want and then we
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Speaker 1: leave the rest. Okay.
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Speaker 2: There's just some things on social media that I feel
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Speaker 2: like we can just leave. Okay.
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Speaker 1: A little bit TMI for me. So I'm pretty positive
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Speaker 1: that I cannot get pregnant.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: So just take that and just that's all you get.
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Speaker 2: It's quite ironic that she claimed she's not baiting anyone,
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Speaker 2: but started the video saying, I could be pregnant with
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Speaker 2: my fourth baby. Like she knows how the TikTok algorithm works.
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Speaker 2: That's going to make people stop and watch her video. Well,
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Speaker 2: particularly because a lot of her followers have been convinced
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Speaker 2: that she's going to try for baby number four because
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Speaker 2: she ended up having three boys. And it was quite
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Speaker 2: clear that she was hoping for a girl the third
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Speaker 2: time around. Yeah, but since she's had her third son, Harlow,
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Speaker 2: it's been very clear to me that she does not
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Speaker 2: want to have the newborn experience again because it's been
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Speaker 2: very tough for her with him having reflux. Oh, I
14:51
Speaker 2: can't even imagine having three kids, especially three boys. I
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Speaker 2: probably have a different opinion to you, Kate, on this one.
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Speaker 2: I'm all for the TMI. I understand that when it
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Speaker 2: comes to pregnancy, you've got to be so careful, but
15:04
Speaker 2: we keep saying that we want influencers to be more
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Speaker 2: open and people aren't sharing things anymore. I'm really enjoying
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Speaker 2: this little insight into what's going on behind the scenes
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Speaker 2: because I think for her, she is very in tune
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Speaker 2: with her body and she's realized that something is feeling off.
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Speaker 2: She could choose not to share about it, but isn't
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Speaker 2: it more interesting that we're hearing about it?
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Speaker 1: I get where you're coming from.
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Speaker 2: One thing I found really interesting though is the fact
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Speaker 2: that she doesn't want to speak about contraception because she
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Speaker 2: started her channel talking about hormonal acne and coming off
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Speaker 2: the pill. And it got people speculating about like, well,
15:36
Speaker 2: why would she just not say what she's using for contraception?
15:39
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think she necessarily has to go
15:42
Speaker 1: into it.
15:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, but when you base your channel on talking about
15:44
Speaker 2: things like hormonal acne and then also recently since having children,
15:48
Speaker 2: she's spoken a lot about the process that she took
15:51
Speaker 2: to try and conceive. It just seems like a natural
15:53
Speaker 2: thing that she would discuss on her channel if she's
15:56
Speaker 2: open to talking about fertility. Well, we all know she
15:59
Speaker 2: loves a naturopath and maybe she's doing quite a unique,
16:02
Speaker 2: very natural method that she doesn't want to be promoting
16:05
Speaker 2: to her audience. Yeah, I think that could be it. Now,
16:08
Speaker 2: as expected, the video gained traction and hit 324,000 views
16:12
Speaker 2: on TikTok, which is actually quite a lot for Sarah
16:15
Speaker 2: on that platform. Now, despite saying she wasn't baiting her followers,
16:18
Speaker 2: a few weeks later, Sarah uploaded a reel that started
16:21
Speaker 2: like this.
16:22
Speaker 1: There's been a lot happening in my life lately. And
16:26
Speaker 1: last week, I took a pregnancy test. And this is
16:29
Speaker 1: not a joke. This is real life.
16:32
Speaker 2: Now, to push the message even further, Sarah added text
16:35
Speaker 2: on the screen that said, I took a pregnancy test.
16:38
Speaker 2: And the thumbnail photo of the video was Sarah holding
16:41
Speaker 2: a pregnancy test. She then spoke about all the pregnancy
16:44
Speaker 2: symptoms she was experiencing and how weird it was taking
16:46
Speaker 2: a pregnancy test when she definitely knows that she's done
16:49
Speaker 2: having children. She even held the pregnancy test in the
16:52
Speaker 2: frame like it was an advert. And it was quite
16:54
Speaker 2: strange because it was the brand first response. And I'm
16:57
Speaker 2: so used to seeing influencers with clear blue. I was like,
16:59
Speaker 2: hang on, what is this?
17:00
Speaker 1: Is this like the cheaper version?
17:01
Speaker 2: She's probably like, well, clear blue aren't paying me and
17:03
Speaker 2: they're paying other influencers. So I'm not going to be
17:05
Speaker 2: putting them in the front of this video. I was
17:08
Speaker 2: shocked at how many times this pregnancy test did appear
17:11
Speaker 2: in the shot.
17:12
Speaker 1: It was like, here, here, here.
17:13
Speaker 2: She's so clever though, because she knows that she's going
17:16
Speaker 2: to capture people in the second they see the pregnancy test.
17:19
Speaker 2: Even if the sound's down, it's like, okay, someone's taking
17:21
Speaker 2: a pregnancy test. I need to know what's happening. Yeah. Well,
17:23
Speaker 2: it wasn't until around the one minute mark of the
17:26
Speaker 2: video that she revealed that, quote, thankfully the test was
17:28
Speaker 2: negative and she got her first period.
17:30
Speaker 1: Back since having Harlow.
17:32
Speaker 2: So all of these symptoms were leading into the fact
17:34
Speaker 2: that her period was returning to For the first time postpartum. God,
17:37
Speaker 2: I'm still waiting for my first period postpartum. Hopefully it
17:41
Speaker 2: doesn't come.
17:42
Speaker 1: For a while. It did not sound pleasant. No, they
17:44
Speaker 1: are not fun.
17:46
Speaker 2: Sarah said, though, that she was so adamant that she
17:48
Speaker 2: was pregnant that she kept the pregnancy test for four days.
17:51
Speaker 1: She then said this. I didn't tell Kurt because I
17:56
Speaker 1: was like, I was so nervous. Like it wasn't, I
17:58
Speaker 1: wasn't like, oh my gosh, like I could be pregnant.
18:00
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, like Kurt will drop dead.
18:05
Speaker 2: Now, Kurt is clearly not keen to have baby number four.
18:08
Speaker 2: I think he was really pushed across the line to
18:11
Speaker 2: have baby number three. He looks absolutely chaotic in their household.
18:14
Speaker 2: Having one, I actually don't understand how people can go
18:17
Speaker 2: to three.
18:18
Speaker 1: No.
18:18
Speaker 2: It's quite a luxury these days to have three kids, though.
18:20
Speaker 2: You've got to have a lot of finances behind you.
18:23
Speaker 2: I had to laugh at one of the comments under
18:25
Speaker 2: the video. Someone wrote, okay, the Tills fam hiring a
18:28
Speaker 2: sleep consultant was obviously good for mum and dad.
18:30
Speaker 1: Lol. Yeah. The comment section was really interesting because.
18:35
Speaker 2: I think from Sarah using the word, hopefully it's our
18:38
Speaker 2: last pregnancy scare, it caused a lot of people again
18:41
Speaker 2: to speculate about the contraception she was using and how
18:44
Speaker 2: she tracks her cycle.
18:46
Speaker 1: There were a lot of calls for Kurt to get
18:48
Speaker 1: a vasectomy.
18:49
Speaker 2: In terms of people asking why she doesn't track her cycle,
18:52
Speaker 2: I saw that she responded and said, well, to be fair,
18:55
Speaker 2: I didn't have anything to track. Yeah, and she spoke
18:57
Speaker 2: about how with her second son Malachi, it took like
18:59
Speaker 2: 22 months or something like that for a period to return.
19:02
Speaker 2: So this is fairly early for her in her postpartum journey.
19:06
Speaker 2: There were a lot of people labelling the pregnancy baiting
19:09
Speaker 2: as tone deaf. What did you think, Soph? Look, I
19:12
Speaker 2: was pretty surprised to see the video pop up because
19:15
Speaker 2: people nowadays are being so careful with anything relating to pregnancy.
19:19
Speaker 2: It can be very triggering for some people. That's why
19:23
Speaker 2: I didn't think that she would share something like that. Yeah,
19:25
Speaker 2: and I think it was the way the pregnancy test
19:27
Speaker 2: was used as a prop. Like it was so overtly done.
19:31
Speaker 2: It was clear she was trying to build engagement. That
19:33
Speaker 2: video attracted 1.4 million views on Instagram.
19:35
Speaker 1: So it clearly worked.
19:36
Speaker 2: But then on the other side of things, I'm sort
19:39
Speaker 2: of all for videos where influencers really do give you
19:42
Speaker 2: an insight into what's going on because the influencer space
19:45
Speaker 2: is becoming boring when people don't share about what's really
19:49
Speaker 2: going on in their lives. yeah but the news was
19:51
Speaker 2: that her period had returned it wasn't about being pregnant
19:54
Speaker 2: she knew before she filmed that video that she wasn't
19:56
Speaker 2: pregnant yeah but the news also was that she thought
19:59
Speaker 2: she was and she's a content creator she creates engaging
20:03
Speaker 2: videos that people want to click on and That's her job. Look,
20:07
Speaker 2: I think I found it quite jarring because pregnancy and
20:09
Speaker 2: fertility is such a sensitive topic. So I think I
20:11
Speaker 2: was sort of like, oh, this just seems so overt,
20:14
Speaker 2: the pregnancy baiting. Well, when you look at the fact
20:16
Speaker 2: that she's also just about to launch a new fitness challenge,
20:19
Speaker 2: it's clear that she is wanting as many.
20:21
Speaker 1: Eyeballs to her page as possible.
20:23
Speaker 2: So she has been accused in the past of trying
20:25
Speaker 2: to generate controversy when she's about to drop something new. Yeah,
20:28
Speaker 2: that's a really good point. So we have spoken on
20:30
Speaker 2: the podcast about her fitness challenge. It's called 560. Sarah
20:35
Speaker 2: has announced it's launching on the 9th of October, which
20:37
Speaker 2: I found a pretty bold move because she's spoken openly
20:40
Speaker 2: about the fact that she still needs to shoot the
20:42
Speaker 2: workout content for the challenge. She tried to film it
20:45
Speaker 2: the other day and her son Harlow was awake.
20:48
Speaker 1: So she's like, should I just film it with him?
20:50
Speaker 2: I haven't been game enough to try and do a
20:52
Speaker 2: workout with my son Luca. I feel like he's too
20:54
Speaker 2: small at the moment.
20:55
Speaker 1: But I feel like that'd be very challenging, particularly filming it.
20:58
Speaker 2: Oh, it would be so difficult. It would be an
21:00
Speaker 2: absolute nightmare. Have you seen the photo Sarah used to
21:04
Speaker 2: announce the launch date?
21:05
Speaker 1: I have.
21:06
Speaker 2: And I don't mean to sound like a weirdo, but
21:10
Speaker 2: I think what was in focus the.
21:11
Speaker 1: Most was her crotch. Oh, I was like, why is
21:14
Speaker 1: this just a shot of her crotch?
21:15
Speaker 2: So for those who haven't seen the photo, she is
21:18
Speaker 2: standing in this pose with her arms outstretched above her
21:22
Speaker 2: head and is kind of from her thighs upwards. And
21:26
Speaker 2: her hips are pushed forward to make her abs pop.
21:30
Speaker 2: And the photo is taken from like below So it
21:32
Speaker 2: really focuses on her crutch.
21:35
Speaker 1: And it turns out her husband, Kurt Tills, took the photo.
21:38
Speaker 1: And it was pretty funny because someone wrote in the comments,
21:41
Speaker 1: I saw this pic and immediately knew it was Kurt.
21:43
Speaker 1: He has a distinctive style that I like. And I
21:45
Speaker 1: was just laughing. I'm thinking, it's of her crutch.
21:48
Speaker 2: It's clear she's trying to get her community involved in
21:50
Speaker 2: this project and feel like it's something they're working on
21:52
Speaker 2: together because she asked her followers to help select the
21:55
Speaker 2: logo for the.
21:57
Speaker 1: Challenge's Instagram account.
21:59
Speaker 2: And off the back of that, I went to see
22:01
Speaker 2: just how many followers the 560 challenge now has. And
22:05
Speaker 2: I was really shocked because it had 127,000 followers. Yeah.
22:08
Speaker 1: I saw it and was like, God, geez, it must
22:11
Speaker 1: be bigger than I thought.
22:12
Speaker 2: Yeah. But then when I actually did some digging, if
22:15
Speaker 2: you look at the tag photos, it turns out that
22:17
Speaker 2: she's just converted her defunct health code podcast page into
22:21
Speaker 2: the new 560 challenge account. I mean, No shade, because
22:24
Speaker 2: if you're a business owner and you have access to
22:27
Speaker 2: 127,000 people on an account that you no longer use,
22:30
Speaker 2: of course you're going to utilize it. But it does
22:32
Speaker 2: tell me that the podcast is not coming back. And
22:34
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed the Health Code podcast in the early days. Yeah,
22:37
Speaker 2: she's really put a line through that podcast. It's interesting though,
22:40
Speaker 2: because she's used this method before. So she also had
22:43
Speaker 2: an Instagram account for her defunct cooking app called Sunny.
22:46
Speaker 2: And that account has now been turned into something called
22:48
Speaker 2: the Sarah's Day Wellness Hub. So I reckon on the
22:52
Speaker 2: 560 Challenge account, that is purely going to be focused
22:54
Speaker 2: on her sharing her journey of doing the challenge and
22:57
Speaker 2: then maybe highlighting some community members who have had success
23:01
Speaker 2: stories and these.
23:02
Speaker 1: Really good results.
23:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like the more of the marketing I see,
23:05
Speaker 2: it's validating my original fears that this is just going
23:07
Speaker 2: to be an old school toxic fitness challenge. I've seen
23:10
Speaker 2: the term rules and no quitting used quite a lot,
23:14
Speaker 2: which is a.
23:14
Speaker 1: Little bit of a concern.
23:15
Speaker 2: Do we think now that she's definitely not going to
23:17
Speaker 2: have a fourth child, she is re-entering her fitness era?
23:21
Speaker 2: I mean, she keeps saying she's definitely not going to
23:23
Speaker 2: have a fourth child, but I would not be surprised
23:25
Speaker 2: in a couple of years time if they have.
23:26
Speaker 1: An accident child.
23:27
Speaker 2: I think that they're setting it up saying, oh, you know,
23:31
Speaker 2: we've having all these pregnancy scares. Like we're not really
23:34
Speaker 2: clear on what contraception we're using.
23:36
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
23:37
Speaker 2: The way that Kurt reacted, I don't think you'd be
23:39
Speaker 2: reacting like that if you're you know, gunning for baby
23:42
Speaker 2: number four. Oh, Kurt doesn't want baby number four, but
23:44
Speaker 2: I think Sarah potentially could after she's recovered from having
23:47
Speaker 2: a baby with reflux.
23:48
Speaker 1: I think she really wants a girl. Hi, everyone. That's
23:52
Speaker 1: Tyson Fury. And she's Paris Fury. And today we're going
23:55
Speaker 1: to play a little game of Mr.
23:57
Speaker 2: And Mrs. Over the weekend, Tyson Fury's daughter, Venezuela, generated
24:02
Speaker 2: headlines after she got engaged at her 16th birthday party
24:06
Speaker 2: with So if the announcement sent shockwaves across social media. Yeah,
24:10
Speaker 2: I mean, engagement announcements always do well on Instagram, but
24:13
Speaker 2: this one did particularly well. It generated over 1.8 million views. Now,
24:19
Speaker 2: in the video, Venezuela, who has 198,000 followers, shared a
24:23
Speaker 2: close-up of her new engagement ring and wrote, we're getting married,
24:27
Speaker 2: so happy, and tagged her new fiance, Noah Price. Now,
24:31
Speaker 2: Venezuela's mom, Paris Fury, who is married to the famous boxer,
24:35
Speaker 2: also broke the news to her 1.9 million followers, sharing
24:39
Speaker 2: the moment that Noah popped the question. And I have
24:42
Speaker 2: to say that this is probably one of the most
24:44
Speaker 2: awkward proposal videos I have ever seen. It is very
24:48
Speaker 2: evident that the two are very young. So in the video,
24:51
Speaker 2: Noah got down on one knee on this empty dance floor.
24:55
Speaker 2: There were a handful of family members who were looking on.
24:58
Speaker 2: And at one point, a random child just walked past
25:01
Speaker 2: the proposal and It was also quite a lacklustre reaction
25:04
Speaker 2: from partygoers. It's interesting to have the insight from the
25:08
Speaker 2: Furies doco because I remember seeing them getting ready for
25:10
Speaker 2: these big parties and even though they spent so much
25:13
Speaker 2: money on them, they just looked like your typical chavvy
25:17
Speaker 2: English event that was boring with lots of kids there. Yeah. Well...
25:21
Speaker 2: What was also very uncomfortable about this proposal video was
25:24
Speaker 2: that they looked uncomfortable showing.
25:26
Speaker 1: Affection in front of their family and friends. They're 16.
25:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, they gave this uncomfortable hug and then Noah sort
25:34
Speaker 2: of gave her a kiss on the cheek. It seemed
25:36
Speaker 2: like she knew it was coming though because she was
25:38
Speaker 2: wearing this sparkly white two-piece outfit.
25:41
Speaker 1: It looked like a very engagementy outfit.
25:43
Speaker 2: Well, I was thinking, well, surely Noah has asked Tyson
25:46
Speaker 2: and Paris for their daughter's hand in marriage considering she's
25:49
Speaker 2: only 16. But Paris admitted to her followers that she
25:52
Speaker 2: was shocked but happy for the young couple. She wrote,
25:55
Speaker 2: congratulations Venezuela and Noah on getting engaged. Both only young
25:58
Speaker 2: but when you know, you know. Still in shock but
26:00
Speaker 2: very happy for you both. Me and your dad couldn't
26:02
Speaker 2: be prouder. When I first saw this video popping up
26:05
Speaker 2: on TikTok, there were a lot of questions about how
26:07
Speaker 2: old her new fiance Noah actually was because the consensus
26:11
Speaker 2: was that he looked a lot older than Venezuela and
26:15
Speaker 2: but he is in fact 17 years old. And funnily enough,
26:18
Speaker 2: he is actually an up and coming boxer like her
26:20
Speaker 2: dad and also her famous uncle, Tommy Fury. So he
26:23
Speaker 2: is pretty built for a teenager, which I think made
26:26
Speaker 2: him look a lot older. As you can expect, Paris
26:28
Speaker 2: Fury's comment section blew up with Venezuela's auntie, Molly May writing, congratulations,
26:32
Speaker 2: special girl. Not everyone was as happy though. One follower wrote,
26:36
Speaker 2: this child is 16. Paris and Tyson, you have worked
26:39
Speaker 2: so hard to give your children a better life. Let
26:41
Speaker 2: your daughter see the world, not tie herself down to
26:43
Speaker 2: a boy.
26:44
Speaker 1: Madness. Now that comment received over 400 likes.
26:47
Speaker 2: Another follower wrote, this just looks so awkward and like
26:50
Speaker 2: they're both embarrassed, which just proves they're far too young
26:53
Speaker 2: to be making such a huge commitment to each other.
26:57
Speaker 2: Another said, regardless of age, this is the most awkward
26:59
Speaker 2: proposal I've ever seen. There was a follower who told
27:03
Speaker 2: people not to be haters and pointed out that Paris
27:05
Speaker 2: got with Tyson at her 16th birthday and that they're
27:08
Speaker 2: still together. So it would be a fun fact. Paris
27:11
Speaker 2: is only 35 and Tyson is 37, which.
27:14
Speaker 1: Blows my mind.
27:15
Speaker 2: I can't imagine being the mother of a bride at
27:17
Speaker 2: this age. I mean, even if the bride is 16.
27:20
Speaker 2: We have to remember that the Tyson family are travelers.
27:23
Speaker 2: So it is tradition for travelers to marry young. There
27:26
Speaker 2: is generally not a large time span between puberty and marriage.
27:29
Speaker 2: So the typical age for a female traveler is 16
27:33
Speaker 2: to 17 and for male travelers, 18 to 19. So
27:36
Speaker 2: when you look at it with that perspective, it does
27:38
Speaker 2: make a lot more sense. Well, I remember in the
27:41
Speaker 2: Fury's doco that Venezuela was pulled out of school at 13,
27:45
Speaker 2: so she could follow her mum around and learn how
27:47
Speaker 2: to be a housewife, basically.
27:49
Speaker 1: Well, a lot of female travellers don't go to school
27:53
Speaker 1: at all.
27:53
Speaker 2: Yeah. I know that was something that Tommy and Molly
27:56
Speaker 2: had to talk about because it seemed like Tommy wanted
28:00
Speaker 2: Bambi to have quite a traditional lifestyle, but Molly's like, no,
28:04
Speaker 2: she's definitely going to school. Well, it seems like it's
28:06
Speaker 2: going to be a long engagement for Venezuela and Noah
28:09
Speaker 2: because in February 2023, the legal age changed for marriage
28:14
Speaker 2: in England. So previously, if you were 16, you could
28:17
Speaker 2: get married if you had parental permission. However, that is
28:21
Speaker 2: no longer the case. I think it's probably good it's
28:23
Speaker 2: going to be a bit of a long engagement. The
28:25
Speaker 2: two might get to know each other a bit more. Yeah,
28:27
Speaker 2: I mean, they might actually work up to not being
28:29
Speaker 2: embarrassed to kiss at the altar by 18. Yeah. Well,
28:32
Speaker 2: I think that is all we have time for today.
28:34
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us for this episode.
28:36
Speaker 2: And for those of you playing at home who are
28:38
Speaker 2: wondering why I'm here on a Tuesday.
28:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not meant to be here. You're meant to
28:41
Speaker 1: be on maternity leave. Yeah, we are having a bit
28:43
Speaker 1: of a rejig.
28:43
Speaker 2: So I will be on every Tuesday episode and Amy
28:45
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28:49
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28:51
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29:09
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29:11
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29:15
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29:18
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29:21
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29:24
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29:27
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29:30
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29:33
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29:36
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