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Roma running hot to start Serie A season - Ep. 314 · The Calcio Guys

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  Speaker 1: Yeah match day two in the book couch guys episode
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  Speaker 1: 314 jenny adrano nicholas you could follow us on all
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  Speaker 1: your favorite podcasting platforms and social media at the couch
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  Speaker 1: guys guys how's it going it's going good it's.
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  Speaker 2: Going good but take down that jersey man it's over
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  Speaker 2: it's over take it down take it down if people
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  Speaker 2: on youtube will know what i'm talking about but take
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  Speaker 2: it down but it's good joking aside it's good to
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  Speaker 2: be back guys.
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  Speaker 3: I uh I've been doing okay. Can't wait to, not
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  Speaker 3: only is it the start of Serie A, well, week two,
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  Speaker 3: it's basically the start of the school year for me.
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  Speaker 3: So basically getting myself back into the whole swing of
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  Speaker 3: getting out of summer break and actually getting into proper work.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what, Jenny, we always start with Milan
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  Speaker 4: or Juve or even Napoli on the podcast. We will
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  Speaker 4: talk some Juve after. There's a reason I have that
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  Speaker 4: jersey up. But, you know, we got to talk some Roma.
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  Speaker 4: 4-0 win against Fiorentina last week. 4-0 win against Lecce. So,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the attack's the same. But then you got
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  Speaker 4: Daniel Mallon, three goals last week, two this week. Jenny,
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  Speaker 4: are you worried about his regression already?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, man. Let's see if we
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  Speaker 3: can do it on a cold, rainy night in Stoke.
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  Speaker 3: But in all seriousness, look, it's very nice. Amazing scorelines.
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  Speaker 3: Very big scorelines. And the thing was, both games, offense
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  Speaker 3: was convincing. It wasn't as if the team was struggling
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  Speaker 3: to produce chances. They were just generating them like crazy.
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  Speaker 3: And it's like, this is Gasparini ball. Like, this is ridiculous. Like,
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  Speaker 3: no wonder they're up by eight goals in two games in.
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  Speaker 3: Because you get the right target, man. You get the
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  Speaker 3: right support behind them. And the plays are going to happen. Now,
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  Speaker 3: here's the thing where I still have my doubts. Game
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  Speaker 3: one was against Fiorentina, who's been struggling since last season.
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  Speaker 3: Game two is against Lecce, who would barely hung on
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  Speaker 3: to stay in Serie A. You know, like, yes, okay, nice.
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  Speaker 3: We're getting these goals. But these are teams that you're
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  Speaker 3: supposed to be winning these kinds of games. You know
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  Speaker 3: what I'm trying to say? Like, I'm not trying to
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  Speaker 3: shit talk these teams. I'm saying if you're a team
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  Speaker 3: like Roma, now you finally made Champions League again, right?
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  Speaker 3: And you want to be a serious contender for the
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  Speaker 3: Scudetto because that's what your next goal is, right? To
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  Speaker 3: maintain consistent Champions League qualifications and maybe make a title push.
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  Speaker 3: these are the games where you shouldn't struggle it. These
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  Speaker 3: are the games that, okay, let's actually like, like we
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  Speaker 3: will squash these teams to show that we're a dominant force.
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  Speaker 3: And then let's see how we do versus the big, the,
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  Speaker 3: the big beaters, you know? So it's exciting to see
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  Speaker 3: Dybala's playing as if he was never injured. So it's nice.
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  Speaker 3: This is a very nice Dybala that Roma's getting. How
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  Speaker 3: long will he stay this way? We'll knock on glass.
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  Speaker 3: Cause I don't have wood here, but you know, let's,
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  Speaker 3: let's hope he stays like that. Malin's been on fire since,
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  Speaker 3: since they got him in the, you know, the mid-season
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  Speaker 3: transfer window last year. I can't complain. And then backline,
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  Speaker 3: the fact that they kept Svilar, because I felt like
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  Speaker 3: as if he was somebody that a lot of teams
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  Speaker 3: are going to have circled on their transfer board to
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  Speaker 3: potentially make an offer for the fact that he's still
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  Speaker 3: staying helps because it's not only eight goals for, it's
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  Speaker 3: been zero goals against, you know, that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That Roma backline is still holding strong. And like I said,
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  Speaker 3: I like, I like what I see because like, players
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  Speaker 3: like Mancini, like I know we have as like, like,
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  Speaker 3: like a few years ago, I said, I like him,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm worried about his hardheadedness. I'm worried about his,
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  Speaker 3: you know, how dangerous he could be, how competitive, like
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  Speaker 3: how aggressive he can be. But this Gianluca Mancini that
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  Speaker 3: we're watching right now, so far under Gasparini is a
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  Speaker 3: man who's focused into a mission. You know, he's focused in,
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  Speaker 3: you know, making, maintaining Svilar's easy life, you know? So, uh, Overall,
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  Speaker 3: Roma has been playing well. But like I said, these
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  Speaker 3: are teams that you expect these kind of results from.
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  Speaker 3: It gets me excited, yes, but let's pump the brakes.
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  Speaker 3: Next game day is against Atalanta. They're playing against Atalanta
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  Speaker 3: next game day. So that's the one where you have
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  Speaker 3: to be like, okay, here comes the first real test
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  Speaker 3: for Roma.
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  Speaker 4: Gianni, you say these are teams you expect to win against,
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  Speaker 4: but I think that shows the level of Roma's at. Because, look,
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  Speaker 4: two or three years ago, maybe they got a draw
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  Speaker 4: against Fiorentina, maybe they got a draw against Lecce, or
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  Speaker 4: it's just like a 1-0 win against Lecce. You know,
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  Speaker 4: the fact that they go out and win 4-0. Okay, guys,
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  Speaker 4: it's two games. Like you said, pump the brakes. But, look,
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  Speaker 4: a team like Inter, how did they win the Scudetto
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  Speaker 4: last season? How did Napoli win the Scudetto two years ago?
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  Speaker 4: You go out, these teams that you are supposed to win,
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  Speaker 4: You put them to bed early and it was what,
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  Speaker 4: three goals within 30 minutes?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like they scored the first goal within three minutes.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm not saying like Roma is like Napoli two
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  Speaker 4: years ago into last year, but there's a difference between like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, let's say Juve is squeaking by a 1-0
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  Speaker 4: win versus Frosinone and then Roma going on and getting
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  Speaker 4: two 4-0 wins in a row.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I totally agree. And just even to add
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  Speaker 2: on to that, to Johnny's points there, This almost kind
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  Speaker 2: of looks like, and again, it's the same manager, but
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  Speaker 2: it looks like carbon copy. And guys, you guys can
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  Speaker 2: probably go back in the archives, but do you guys
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  Speaker 2: remember when we were talking about Atalanta fucking full guns
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  Speaker 2: blazing offense galore and they were just going balls to
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  Speaker 2: the walls with the offense scoring goals that Duvan Zapata,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Papu Gomez era for Atalanta? And it seems
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  Speaker 2: like it's kind of that carbon copy here at Roma. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Gasperini's really put his imprint on so far
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  Speaker 2: into this club. And, you know, they've made some transfers.
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  Speaker 2: They've kept some pieces from last season. And I think
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  Speaker 2: we're now starting to slowly but surely see the forming of,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Gasparini's team and, you know, the team that
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  Speaker 2: he wants. So, listen, man, I put them second for
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  Speaker 2: a reason.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: And, again, I know it's an early prediction and it's
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  Speaker 2: an early part of the season, only two games in.
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  Speaker 2: The first test, to Johnny's point, is next week. against,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Gasparini's old team. So is that, how's that
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  Speaker 2: going to go? You know, is it going to be
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  Speaker 2: a real revenge or what are we going to see?
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  Speaker 2: It remains to be seen. But yeah, I just liked
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  Speaker 2: how they've played and, you know, how they've been able
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  Speaker 2: to contribute. You know, it's been obviously the Malin show
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  Speaker 2: in terms of scoring goals, but we saw the new acquisition, right?
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  Speaker 2: Rodrigo Moura, the young Portuguese kid getting on the score sheet,
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  Speaker 2: you know, getting that, you know, monkey off his back,
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  Speaker 2: if you will, the first one, you know, uh, breaking
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  Speaker 2: the seal, if you will. Um, and again, a guy
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  Speaker 2: like Sule too, right? This is a guy that was another,
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  Speaker 2: was another player that, you know, to your point, Jenny
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  Speaker 2: of Valsvilar is another player that was kind of, is
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  Speaker 2: he in, is he out? Like, how do we, how does,
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  Speaker 2: how is he still going to fit in the system for,
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  Speaker 2: for Gasparini? And I know there was transfer rumors of
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  Speaker 2: him potentially, you know, moving on and, you know, we're
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  Speaker 2: at the last day or so of, of the, of
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  Speaker 2: the transfer market now, but, um, it seems like he'll
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  Speaker 2: stay and, you know, he gets on the board as well. And, um,
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  Speaker 2: he seems to fit and he seems to be, you know,
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  Speaker 2: willing to, to fight for a spot. So, you know,
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  Speaker 2: all in all, I think for Roma, it's, it's positive.
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  Speaker 2: And we've, we've sat in these chairs on this podcast,
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  Speaker 2: you know, many years now. And I would almost bet,
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to bet the house, but pretty close
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  Speaker 2: to it that, you know, in previous seasons, Roma probably
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  Speaker 2: would have dropped some of these games and we would
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  Speaker 2: be singing a different tune, you know, this time around. So,
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  Speaker 2: It's a good one. It's a good start. Again, it's
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  Speaker 2: not how you start, it's how you finish. So Roma's
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  Speaker 2: going to have to maintain that throughout the season. We'll
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  Speaker 2: see how that transpires when the big matchups come, when
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  Speaker 2: Europe comes, Champions League, stuff of that nature. But I
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  Speaker 2: think now with Gasperini really putting his imprint on the team,
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  Speaker 2: I think they're headed in the right directions.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, moving on. I do want to talk about Juve
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  Speaker 4: right away because, you know, lots to talk about. Look,
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  Speaker 4: 2-0 win versus Parma on the weekend. I'm happy about that.
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  Speaker 4: You know, happy another clean sheet. Vicario, I think that's
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  Speaker 4: the signing this summer for Juve. Yeah, you know, a
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  Speaker 4: couple of big stops that Di Gregorio struggled with last year.
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  Speaker 4: I think there was even a highlight, a comparison against Frosinone,
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  Speaker 4: you know, a short side shot that Di Gregorio led
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  Speaker 4: it last year versus Como and then that Vicario saved
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  Speaker 4: this time around. And so Juve continues the history of
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  Speaker 4: Italian goalkeepers. So hopefully Vicario is the next great one. But,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I think the talk of the summer for
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  Speaker 4: Juve was the strikers. And we talked about it last week.
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  Speaker 4: Colomoni comes in, you know, misses a sitter versus Frosinone.
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  Speaker 4: Frosinone doesn't really do anything against Parma. You know, they
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  Speaker 4: have Milik still on the roster. They lost Valvic. They
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  Speaker 4: have Jonathan David who came in on a free transfer
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  Speaker 4: last summer who, struggled six goals only and was not
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  Speaker 4: involved in preseason at all. And that was the interesting thing.
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  Speaker 4: He didn't play at all in preseason. And then he
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  Speaker 4: comes in, starts against Parma. I was really surprised to
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  Speaker 4: see him start. Not only does he start, he starts
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  Speaker 4: out of position. He starts in a position. He doesn't
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  Speaker 4: play it as a camp. So it's he was really
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  Speaker 4: put in a position to not succeed. That was very weird.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you're playing a guy who, you know, needs
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  Speaker 4: to get back up to speed after playing in the
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  Speaker 4: World Cup. And of course, he's not going to do well.
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  Speaker 4: He was booed off.
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  Speaker 2: He was subbed off.
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  Speaker 4: For Nico Gonzalez, who did score the goal. But the
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  Speaker 4: whole situation is weird because, you know, they've loaned him
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  Speaker 4: out now to Atletico Madrid, where I think he's going
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  Speaker 4: to have some playing time, especially now with that Julian
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  Speaker 4: Alvarez situation. I think this is a great move for him.
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  Speaker 4: I'm happy that he's going to go to, you know,
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  Speaker 4: a team where he could succeed. And in a league
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  Speaker 4: where there's other Canadians now, right? Look at Villarreal. They're
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  Speaker 4: mini Canada over there. And so I'm excited for him.
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  Speaker 4: But the fact that Juve is still paying half his
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  Speaker 4: wages and then they get this new striker in from
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  Speaker 4: Germany whose name I'm already forgetting. Nick Voldemort. Voldemort. That's it.
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  Speaker 4: Big guy. Voldemort. There you go. Different type of striker, obviously.
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  Speaker 4: He's more of a, more of a, you know, a
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  Speaker 4: tree trunk.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Tree trunk, target striker. But look, so is David. Let's
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  Speaker 4: be real. How many times did I say, David's the
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  Speaker 4: guy that needs a service. So if you can't even
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  Speaker 4: get him the service, how are you going to get
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  Speaker 4: Voldemort to service a six foot six, you know? So you're,
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  Speaker 4: you're paying for, and first of all, Voldemort scored eight
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  Speaker 4: goals last year for Newcastle. So you're paying a guy
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  Speaker 4: half his wages to go play elsewhere. He scored six
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  Speaker 4: goals for last year. And you bring in a guy
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  Speaker 4: that scored eight goals. Like, it's just, it's a weird situation.
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  Speaker 4: I wish they would have given David a bit more time,
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  Speaker 4: maybe even six months until the January transfer window. Just
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  Speaker 4: to prove himself. And I know that's what he wanted
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  Speaker 4: to do. Ultimately, like I said, I think him going
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  Speaker 4: to Atletico Madrid is the right move for his career.
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  Speaker 4: But from Juve's point of view, it's weird. You know,
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  Speaker 4: at least he's a guy that they didn't pay for
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  Speaker 4: last season. And you know what? It is a good
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  Speaker 4: deal for them because there's still an option to buy
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  Speaker 4: back for Atletico because if he does well there, maybe
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  Speaker 4: they're going to want him to stay. But I do worry.
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  Speaker 4: Who's going to score goals for his U of A team?
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  Speaker 4: It's three goals this season. It's one from a defender,
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  Speaker 4: one from a winger, and one from a midfielder. We
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  Speaker 4: still have nothing from Columwani. I'm sorry. I know it's
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  Speaker 4: only two games, but we're going to need to see
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  Speaker 4: something from him soon. Or else I'm going to keep
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  Speaker 4: talking about this guy right here, Jonathan Davids. He's going
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  Speaker 4: to be bagging goals at Atletico Madrid. But at the
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  Speaker 4: end of the day for Juve, I think, you know,
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  Speaker 4: as long as they win, you know, we might be
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  Speaker 4: going back to the late red days when you won nothing, 2-1, 2-0.
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  Speaker 4: But it's just a very weird situation. I'm glad it's over.
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  Speaker 4: Just move on. All parties move on and that's it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a... You know, to be honest,
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  Speaker 2: it's a weird one with David. I think there was.
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  Speaker 2: Him arriving at Juve, I think, maybe turned some heads
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  Speaker 2: at the time coming from the French League there. And
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  Speaker 2: he chooses Juve. And however that transpired, it transpired. And
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  Speaker 2: he's on Juve and had to deal with some coaching change, right?
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  Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, right? He had to deal with
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  Speaker 2: a coaching change at Juve? Yeah. Who was there? It
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  Speaker 2: was Mata?
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  Speaker 4: Started with Tudor.
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  Speaker 2: Started with Tudor. Yeah. So there you go. So he
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  Speaker 2: comes into Juve. at an interesting time, a time where
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  Speaker 2: they were changing managers almost every other season and having
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  Speaker 2: to go through another coaching change as well when he
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  Speaker 2: got there. Clearly, it wasn't a Spalletti player. Let's make
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  Speaker 2: that clear. I think from the get-go, from putting Parmigiano
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  Speaker 2: on seafood pasta to other antics, if you will, uh
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  Speaker 2: you know it clearly wasn't Spalletti's player and a guy
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  Speaker 2: that he that he valued so I think the move
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  Speaker 2: away makes sense I don't know what we will see
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  Speaker 2: if ever back in the Juve jersey if I'm honest
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  Speaker 2: uh and I think honestly for for Canadian fans for
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  Speaker 2: for Jonathan David fans for for himself as the player
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  Speaker 2: I think that could be a good thing so um
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  Speaker 2: you know I I do think It's a weird one.
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  Speaker 2: Serie A is such a weird... With attackers, Serie A,
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  Speaker 2: we know, guys, and everybody listening knows, it's such a
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  Speaker 2: unique league, especially for forwards, for strikers. You know, some
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  Speaker 2: can acclimate very well and some just have a really,
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  Speaker 2: really hard time, you know, getting into the groove, if
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  Speaker 2: it be the play style, if it be the language,
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  Speaker 2: the culture, the style of play of Italian football. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that doesn't really shock me with David. And honestly,
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  Speaker 2: I do see him suited probably more in, you know,
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  Speaker 2: La Liga... league or type of type of league it
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  Speaker 2: just i think it might suit his characteristics as a
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  Speaker 2: as a forward in my opinion a bit better um
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  Speaker 2: so listen hopefully uh he does good for simione and
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  Speaker 2: aletico you know for for canada fans and um because
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  Speaker 2: he's got to get it back on track like he
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  Speaker 2: hasn't been himself probably since the move from uh from
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  Speaker 2: leon to uh to to juve and that's no disrespect
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  Speaker 2: to juve or whatever it just it is what it
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  Speaker 2: is it's it's the facts you know he He hasn't
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  Speaker 2: been himself. We saw him in the World Cup. You
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  Speaker 2: want to be the top player of your nation or
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  Speaker 2: one of, you have to show up for that and
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  Speaker 2: he didn't really, if I'm honest. I think this is
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  Speaker 2: a fresh start for him and in a league where,
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  Speaker 2: like I said, I think it will suit him a
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  Speaker 2: lot better. But for Juve, yeah, I do agree with you, Nick.
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  Speaker 2: What are we going to see in the forward spots?
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  Speaker 2: I said last week with With Yildiz going down, and
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  Speaker 2: I know we kind of spoke about that last week,
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  Speaker 2: you know, three months out, you know, who's going to
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  Speaker 2: step up? This week it was Nico Gonzalez, right? A
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  Speaker 2: guy who I didn't even realize was back on the roster.
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  Speaker 2: Makes an appearance, scores a goal. You know, the young
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  Speaker 2: Bosnian kid, Albegovic there, whatever. I think he has an
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  Speaker 2: opportunity to grow and to show what he's worth, you know,
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  Speaker 2: coming over at such a young age, so. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Voldemort there, Voldemade, he's going to have to prove something. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. Like, for me, it was
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  Speaker 2: a weird one because I saw even Napoli was looking
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  Speaker 2: at him, which was interesting to me. Ultimately, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Juve pulls the trigger on him, but he's going to
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  Speaker 2: have to perform. If Juve want to, you know, finish
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  Speaker 2: top four, if they want to contend in any sort,
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  Speaker 2: whatever that contending means to definition to you, they're going
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  Speaker 2: to need their offense to produce because they can't scrape
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  Speaker 2: by like this. So we'll see what happens.
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  Speaker 4: Anything to add, Jenny, before we move on?
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  Speaker 3: About Yubay in general?
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  Speaker 1: About that whole David situation.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, like, look, one thing I want to add
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  Speaker 3: is that like, just because a striker doesn't work in
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: one place doesn't mean that they're not going to work elsewhere.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: Sometimes it's just fit matters. Fit absolutely matters. And there's
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: times where just some strikers that just, Like, OK, you'll
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: see like a Lukaku situation in Inter where he's actually
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: very strong, you know, helps them out, you know, or
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: like Aussie men when they first got him, you know,
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: took a bit of adjustment period. You know, it wasn't
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: as if like he was he was great right away.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: Then afterwards, you know, get him a nice winger and
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: cover at Skelly. And then it's just like dominant force,
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: you know, you need to have the right pieces. And
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: I think Jonathan David and we saw with Dusan Vlaovic
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: were put in situations to fail. They weren't really put
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: in situations to kind of find success. It didn't fit them. Um,
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: so I wouldn't say it's a shortcoming of Juve. I
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: think they basically took a chance because it wasn't as
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: if these players weren't highly touted, you know, it was just,
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: it is what it is.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: So you have to start fresh. You have to cut
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: your losses somewhere. And in the case of, of Lovage,
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: you guys reminded me very well that it was a
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: free agent transfer. And I, my mind completely forgot. That's
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: how like crazy I've, I've been thinking of things in
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: my mind anyways, but, uh, I mean, it sounds like
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: it's an issue for you guys, you know, like we
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: over here, Romo Malin and Napoli's got Hoyland and stuff. No,
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. I'm messing around. I'm messing around. But
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: I do want to say, though, is that it's Juventus.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: At the end of the day, they always find a
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: way to find success. And honestly speaking, I think the
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: best thing that Juve did this summer was besides the
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: movement of some dead weight, is keeping Yildiz. I think
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: Yildiz was probably the number one thing that Juve decided
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: to do. Because it's going to get harder and harder
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: to hold on to a guy like that. And I
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: think that's the guy that, even though he's not, I guess,
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: I don't want to say he's the focal point, but
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: I think you should kind of make him the focal point.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: I might have been too far for saying that.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: He's gotta be healthy he's gotta be on the pitch right.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: So yeah he's hurt it's apparently like two three months.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: But but essentially he we saw last year we're gonna
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: see you have to.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Build around somebody and i think that would be i.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Think i think that's i think that's their main priority
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: right now it's like build a project around yield is
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: uh see what they can do with him but that's
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: that's thinking a bit further down the line let's hope
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: the uh voldemort for you guys is uh you know
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: he shall not be named. Yeah.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: So obviously we know Volvich went to Turkey, went to, uh,
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: big sheet does. And then today, Rafael goes to Galatasaray.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: So Turkey, they love getting, uh, ex city players in,
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: in the Turkish league. Um, AJ, I know there was,
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: you know, a lot of problems with Milan and Rafael,
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: Rafael in the past year, he definitely dipped last season. Um,
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, I was a bit surprised by the transfer,
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: but also not shocked. I don't know. Like, was it
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: something that was brewing all summer?
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I think it's unfortunate because I think, you know,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Leal gave us, you know, seven years of different moments,
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: you know, some highs, some lows, some in-betweens and, you know,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say if it wasn't for him. Obviously,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: he had an MVP type of season that year when
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: we won the Scudetto, but he played a big part
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: of that Scudetto. He brought some joy back to Milan
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: that we hadn't seen in so long, you know, coming
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: out of the banter era. And, you know, he kind
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: of came, he comes to Milan at a time where
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: we were fielding some rosters that, like, shouldn't even be
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Serie A rosters, right? So, you know, he comes in
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: on that group of that crop of players, you know,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: that really started to be the, the initial turning point of,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: of that Milan era, if you will, in quotations, you know,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: brought us a, you know, brought us a Scudetto. He
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: had an MVP season, you know, Supercopa in, as well.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: You know, Champions League semi-final. You know, Coppa Italia final. So,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: you know, there were some great moments. It's unfortunate.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: You know, it sucks.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: You know, all good things have to come to an end. And, yeah, listen,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: last season wasn't his season. You know, the last maybe
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: even season or maybe even two seasons weren't maybe at
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: his standard. You want to talk about setting up to fail.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: I think Allegri kind of really did that for Leal.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: I think that was maybe the nail in the coffin.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Last year, completely out of position. Forcing a formation and
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: a system down the players' throats and not working. He
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: goes to Napoli and somehow he discovers the 4-3-3 again
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: when Milan fans back last year were hoping and praying
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: to change formation. Maybe a 4-3-3 or a 4-4-2 or
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: at very least, and we never saw it. So it
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: does suck. You know, he had some great moments, you know,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: almost 300 appearances with the club, you know, just, but again,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: he was a player that many would say he never
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: reached the full potential and he has so much to give.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: And I think on his day, again, he's unplayable. This
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: guy was super uber talented and, you know, had a
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: lot to give. And I think he gave us a lot,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: some great moments, like I said, so. Um, I think
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: it didn't help when in the summer, you know, he
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: was going out and, you know, on, you know, Portuguese
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: media and kind of, um, kind of saying he, he
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: thinks it's, uh, it's kind of time to move on,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: you know, in, in, in, in other words, uh, kind
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: of paraphrasing there, but, you know, so he wanted a
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: new adventure and listen, we saw with OC man, remember,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I remember when we were talking about OC man, you know, back,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: back in the days there, um, where, you know, people
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: got offended when he said he wanted to use Napoli
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: or use quote unquote, Napoli as a stepping stone for,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: for a better, for a better, you know, future. Ultimately,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: I don't understand how these players say these things and
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: then go to Turkey and they're not going for a
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: hair transplant, but that kind of shocks me if I'm,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: if I'm honest, you know, he, when Leal said these
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: things and kind of the writing was kind of on
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: the wall and then, you know, Amarin comes in and,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Cardinale and the club kind of make it clear that
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: he might not be the focal point anymore and he
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: might not be the guy for Milan. It seemed that
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: it was inevitable. Did I think he was going to
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: go to Turkey? No, because there was those bids for
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: so long. I think he almost finally just accepted it
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: just at the end. I don't know if that's true,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: but you know, I know Aston Villa was in the
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: race too for him and he kind of was maybe
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: pushing for more of a Premier League move, but listen,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: I know Turkey and, you know, especially Galatasaray, they've invested
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: a lot, you know, they made a lot of moves,
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: you know, that front line of now Leao, Ousmane and
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: I think it's Sané who's there, the German, that's just
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: a lethal front three, right? I mean, I know it's
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: in a league of like the Super League in Turkey there,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: but it's still something, but Um, listen, I, I'm, I'm upset.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: I think not upset, but just, it's a bit of
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: a bummer just because I think he could have, uh,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: helped and, uh, been a bit of, you know, been
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: a piece to this puzzle of this Milan this season, um,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: under Amorim. I think he could have, uh, added, uh,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: quite a bit, um, kind of playing right behind, you know, his, his, his, his, um,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: his Portuguese teammate in Gonzalo Ramos. Uh, I think that
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: would have been, that would have been a nice little
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: link up there. Uh, we saw it in the world cup.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: We saw it, uh, you know, in the past, uh, they've,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: I think they can, they could have had a good
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: tandem there. Um, but listen, you know, like I said,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: all good things do come to an end. And we,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: you know, as Milan fans, I know a lot of
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Milan fans had many things to say about Leal. Um, listen,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: I was a fan of his, uh, did he, did
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: he always reach the, uh, the levels that, you know,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: we wanted him to reach, I would say probably not.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: But he did give us that X factor when he
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: was on. But it's a bit harsh, in my opinion,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: to kind of judge him on just, you know, the
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: last two seasons. And it's not to be, you know,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: romanticizing these players, but you look at the whole body
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: of work, you know, it's not as what people are
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: really saying online, if I'm honest. Like, They're looking at,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: you know, the short term and what kind of, what
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: have you done for me lately type of thing. And,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: you know, last season was a wash. The season before,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: you know, wasn't the best either. But the years prior, like, were,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: you know, good enough. And, you know, again, I think
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: overall he still put up decent numbers even on bad years.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: So we thank, you know, obviously Leal for what he
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: did for Milan. But, you know, it's clearly now we're
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: moving on. Um, we have, uh, you know, a newer
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: squad and with some of, you know, the whole pieces of,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: of last season and, you know, it starts off two
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: for two, right. Uh, it seems to be like the, the, uh,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: you know, the, the theme for, for almost all our teams,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: except for Napoli, right. You know, two for two going,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: you know, two for two in the opening two match day. So, um,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: you know, that that's, that's huge. Again, another win over,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: over the weekend or on Friday, sorry, for against Venezia. Um,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: and to Johnny's point with Roma. how they, you know,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: how they, how they got their wins. I think for Milan,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: this is the same, similar situation. These were teams on,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: on the, on the calendar that you have to win.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: They did, they beat Torino, they beat, you know, Venezia. And,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: you know, last season was, that was our biggest downfall.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: And I remember him saying in his press conferences, you know,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: we want to take some things from Allegri, but the
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: one thing that, you know, we want, we have to
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: change as a, as a, as a club is, is,
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: you know, not, dropping level, uh, for these, for these,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: you know, quote unquote lower end teams, because that's where
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: we lost a lot of our points last season. So, um,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: encouraging that they've, that they've, uh, they've been able to
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: pick up these points. But again, uh, I think for
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Milan and ultimately who they're playing next week is, is Juve.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: This is the first test for both those clubs. Um,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: you know, both matchups that each team has played, um, Nick,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but these are
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: games that they should have won. They did end up winning.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Convincingly or not, that's another topic, but got the three
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: points in each of those matchups. So I think the
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: first two tests for Milan, and again, for Juve, I
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: couldn't throw them in because they aren't playing each other,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: is this weekend. You know, there's a lot of big matchups, obviously,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: in Serie A this weekend, but I think that's one
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: of them, if not the one. So, but yeah, 2-0. Again,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: You know, Cissé starting didn't have, obviously, the impact that
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: he had in Match Day 1, but still, you know,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: was effective. And, again, not only was he a monkey
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: off the back, but, again, floodgates open, hopefully, for him.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Gonzalo Ramos getting his first Milan goal, I think, was huge.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: We said it last week, guys, you know, as long
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: as he gets one, he's on par with what Santi
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Jimenez and Nicolas Fulcroo did last season. So he's on
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: par with them. Hopefully, it's many more to come. but
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: good to see him get on the, on the score sheet,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: even though he had missed some, some chances where I
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: think he should have definitely finished. He stuck with it.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: He got his goal, a hell of a play by
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Salamakers and the own goal at the end of the
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Yashari weird own goal. If anybody really watched the game,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: they'll know what I'm talking about. It was just a,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: an interesting one. He goes all alone and kind of
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: tries to chip the keeper ish or dink it over him. And,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: you know, it deflects off the keeper, deflects off the
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: defender and goes straight right into the net. And so anyways,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: we'll take it. I know our boy, you know, Christian
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Bellini was in attendance for the game and our friend
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Vinny T from Milano Weekly Podcast. So they got to
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: see a nice 2-0 victory in Milano and hopefully it's
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: another one this weekend against Juventus.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: Hopefully not.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: Uh yeah uh look yeah you know we'll talk soon
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: about the the games this weekend but uh jenny adrian
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: made a good point through some shade three under the
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: bus a bit napoli did not get the win this
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: is como you know it it's this is a champions
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: league team it's not uh you know maybe if it
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: was like the start of last season second week against
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: como would be like asking questions but now como dominated
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: yeah this is a good como side they're a team
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: that uh But I thought it was interesting. It was
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: more than 10 years since Napoli lost their first game
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: at home of the season. I think since 2014, 2015.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: And Rafa Benitez was, was a coach. And I think
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: they lost, I think he said they lost against Chievo, maybe.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Oh my God.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Going back to years, rolling back to years.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: Rafa Benitez. Holy shit. I think, I think he's got
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: more hair than I do now that I think.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So, you know, it was a good team, but
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: I look, you kind of said it too last week, Johnny, like,
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: they weren't convincing in their first win. So maybe not
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: so surprisingly lose against a good team.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: No. Uh, like, first of all, I just wanted like,
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: I want that to comment to the out thing. Like,
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: it just sucks because he's always been my number one
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: target for like years and years. I've got the couch.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: So he's always been a guy that I personally believed in.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: And you know, and like, I honestly thought like he
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: was a guy who was severely underappreciated sometimes at times,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: you know, and there was a time where he was argued,
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: like he was sitting on MVP at one point, not
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: because nobody, right.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: So, he's anyways, you know, seven years, you know, not,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: not everybody's going to pull a Maldini 25 years or
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Totti 25 years right at the club.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: So it doesn't exist anymore. But so the fact that
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: he hung on there for like, you know, a long
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: time when he could have easily left at any point,
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: you know, good.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Coach, many, I didn't add this many coaching changes as well. Right. Like,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: from Pioli, you know, to, you know, Conceição, Fonseca, you know, Allegri, right? Like,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: you know, now Amorim, but it didn't really, it didn't
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: really obviously play with them, but still, you know, just
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: flurry of, of ups and downs, different management, you know,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Maldini was there, you know, so it just, ups and downs, but,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: you know, just, I think he had like 291 appearances,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: he had like 80, 80 something goals, 60 something assists, like,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: I forget where he ranks in those stats. Somebody had
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: posted it. I totally forget now, but he's up there.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: The word legend gets thrown around very loosely these days,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: and world-class and all these types of things. I don't
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: know if you want to call him a Milan legend,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: but for this era of Milan or Milanismo, he's a
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: name that you... you look at it and say, wow,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: you know, he performed and he put up these X numbers,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: you know, during this time in Milan's history. So he's
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: in the history books, if you like it or not,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: of some shape or form. And it sucks to see
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: him go, especially to Turkey, but it is what it is.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: I'd say he had a significant impact on the club,
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: you know, so I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't blame
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: you for, you know, putting the title of maybe like
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: a significant figure for the history of the team.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: I think he's a significant figure. I think that's something
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: that's like... He's definitely in the upper echelons. He's not
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: obviously a club legend, but he's definitely somewhere where people
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: are going to be like, Liao, and they're going to
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: picture Liao in the Milan jersey. They're not going to
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: be like, oh yeah, this was Liao.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: That's Sporting or Lille or whatever. Yeah, yeah.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: When they think of Rafa Liao, they're going to be like, yeah, no,
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Rafa Liao of Milan. So now that we're basically talking
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: towards Napoli, the game against Como, the way I see
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: it is that yes, Como is a fantastic team. Um,
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: and I said it before, I, I've been the firm
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: believer in Como since the start and I got laughed at.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: I got laughed at, but, uh, but in all seriousness,
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: this was a game where Como played very well, uh,
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: suffocated Napoli's offense, but it also felt like as if
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Napoli were their own worst enemies in this game. Uh,
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: especially the second goal being like at the completely defensive
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: error on their part. Um, I feel like it's growing
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: pains under the Allegheny system. Um, it is, it is
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: a tough loss because that's a team that is gunning
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: for the top four, like you are. Uh, so it hurts,
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: but thankfully only happens two games into the season and
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: you have a chance to bounce back right afterwards. Um,
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: it's like as if like it's towards the end of the, uh,
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: end of the, end of the season where, uh, where
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: you're just like, oh no, this costed us to Scudetto.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Like there's 36 other chances. Yeah.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: You know, and you have, and you have the clap
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: back game against Como to eventually try to make a
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: chance for it, you know? And from like really watching
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: the game, I'm like, I don't think Napoli was thoroughly dominated.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: They've played very well. They had chances. Their opportunities came.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: It's just Como was the cleaner team. It's one of
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: those games where Como seemed more steady than Napoli were. That's,
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't really look at it and say, oh, this
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: is Napoli lost because they were severely outplayed. They weren't.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: It was just the coin flip guess landed on the
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Como side. I have the numbers here. Stats. Expected goals
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: for was just 1.05 for Como. That's what it really was.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: It was just bad luck for Napoli. It's not like
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: as if Like the two goals that happened, they gave
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: us defensive laps.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: I think, correct me if I'm wrong, Johnny, if you
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: have the stats there, what were the shots? I forget
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: what game I was watching, and they had like no
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: shots on target. I don't know if it was this game.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: So they had 13 shots, four on target.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Four on target, okay. Yeah.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Colo had 21 shots, but only one was on target. Sorry,
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: two were on target.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Really? Okay.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: So it must have seemed different.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but, like, the goal that they scored on the
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: second one was a danger chance. Like, it was a
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: danger close chance because it was a fuck-up. They messed
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: up the ball and forgot who scored the second goal.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Was it Dubikas? No, Dubikas scored.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: No, it was Dubikas.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: It was Dubikas, yeah.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: But he was right there. Like, he was right there
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: at the doorstep. Like, I'm not going to fault Maria
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: for that, you know, but, like, it was just one
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: of those games where, unfortunately... you know, cause it just,
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't say like, I guess the Como were the
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: better team, but it's not like, as if you can say,
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: sit down and be like, yeah, they were dominant. You know,
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: it was like, yeah, yeah. They played better.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: Like I didn't deserve the win, but it's not something
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: where I'm like, uh, like, fuck, like we lost.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: You're not panicking yet.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: I'm not panicking yet. It wasn't like, it wasn't, it wasn't,
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: it was just a, you know, like a, it's not
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: a lot, it's a loss that stings, but it's like,
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: you know, that it's, it's not something to worry about.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Like I was not pushed that button yet. Cause it,
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: Because it was just sloppiness. If they clean it up,
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: if they get better, if they get adjusted to the
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Allegri system sooner than later, I think it's going to
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: come back around for them. I think they have the
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: team for it. One thing I'm really happy to see
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: is that KDB is basically still having the drive for things.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: He still has that competitive edge. Like I said last episode,
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: he was a player that I was worried about that
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: after Conte left, I'm like, this guy's probably going to
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: follow along. He probably is like, you know, like, he
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: joined Napoli on a free, you know, hopefully to, you know,
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: he wants to play champions league. He wants to, you know,
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: challenge himself. And, you know, like he sees what McDominay
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: has done and he, you know, probably buys into, you know,
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: prem players because he sees McDominay, he sees oil and
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: he's like, prem players going to city.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: It sometimes works out better for them. You know, like
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: they have a better lifestyle. So I like the fact
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: that he's still honoring the, the free transfer and he's
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: still like, you know, he's making, He's making an effort
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: that even though it's a different manager, that he's still,
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: you know, trying his best to, you know, make lemonade.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Out of lemons, you know.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: So especially that you get the nice lemons in Napoli,
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: you know, right off the coast there. So best place
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: to have a lemonade, right?
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Can't argue that.
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: We're the lemonade guys now.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Johnny, one thing I wanted to throw in there. I
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: know some fans online were ripping Zambo and Guissa out. um,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: just from his play. I don't know if he, there
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: was a him who fucked up on the second one
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: or I.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: Didn't watch it.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: I didn't see it.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: It was, was it him?
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: I was, I don't know. I saw he was like,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: he wasn't himself.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: Like he, he fucked up on a back pass. It
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: was a bit too rough and, uh, forget which defender
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: fumbled on it. Cause they couldn't control it well, but
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: then that's, I think it was Marine. I think, no,
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: I think you're right. I think it was Marine. Like he, they,
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: they felt he fucked up on the touch with it
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: because it was a bit too, too hard. And then, uh,
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: and then Dufika, however the Greeks pronounce it, was right
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: there on the doorstep just ready to put it in.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: I don't fault him for that. I know a lot
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: of people like to shit on him. He's not the
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: highest quality keeper in the league, but he's not horrible either.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: A point-blank opportunity like that, it takes a miracle for
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: the ball to not go in the net.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Another thing I wanted to say is I've been seeing, Also,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: McTominay too, eh? Like, two games in, two, like, early-ish subs. Like,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: he's been subbed out, like, I think around, like, the 65th,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: maybe 70th minute in both matches, if I'm not mistaken. Well,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: I know last game for sure. I forget in the
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: first matchup. But didn't start, I think, the way some
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: fans would have thought, right? do you think he fits
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: in this, uh, in this oligarchy system? Like, or, or
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: is it just, uh, you know, early season blues in
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: your opinion? I, I'm hoping that it is early season
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: blues because McFratama has been like a very key part
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: for Napoli for the past two years.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Like he was the MVP for when they won the
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: Scudetto and last year he was MVP despite not like
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: he wasn't league MVP. I'm saying he was my personal
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: MVP for, for Napoli, despite them not winning the Scudetto
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: because he was just been phenomenal for the team. Now, uh,
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: he gets subbed off for De Bruyne. So it seems
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: like as if, like, he's trying to find a way
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: to play both. So like as if McTominay is getting
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: subbed off for like a young kid or, you know,
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: like somebody who's trying to prove himself. It's like, it's,
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: it's KDB that's getting subbed on. So it's quality for quality. Right.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: So you can't really, and it's like, you're giving De
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Bruyne like 30 minutes in a game to probably be
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: in it, to have an impact, you know, and he
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: does sometimes, you know, he does have effort. So it's,
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't like look too much into it, but I
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised if, if McTominay kind of probably behind
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: the scenes probably makes a comment towards Allegri or something
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: where they try to find a way to make them
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: both work, you know, I think Allegri is just trying
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: to get the, my God, I got an eyelash in
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: my eye. It's bothering me. I think Allegri is trying
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: to find a way to get both into the roster,
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: into something that fits without compromising everybody else. uh that's
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: gonna be up to him though because um i like
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: the fact that he's playing with a four-man back line
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: uh i always said eddie lorenzo plays better in a
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: four-man back he cannot play in a three-man back uh
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: especially when you have basically like two good wing backs
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: you know in uh and uh well in this game
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: was oliviana but you know like spinazzola can obviously play
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: for oliviana and stuff too so you have them use
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: them so i i'm it remains to be seen now
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: if you could try maybe doing a 4-4-2 and have
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: them as a pivot in the middle that'd be nice
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: because then you could still because then you could basically
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: do if you want to do a diamond with Anguissa
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: and Lobotka at the back, you know, like, you know
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: what I mean? Like it's, if you do your four
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: mids as Lobotka, Anguissa, De Bruyne and McTominay, if you
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: want to put like, even like De Bruyne, like more
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: like up, you know, as kind of like a, like
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: a cam, I guess.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: Like a cam, you know what I mean? Like you could,
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: you could try that out. I think he's just trying
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: to find a way to make things fit. But then
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: afterwards you're starting to exhaust your midfield resources, you know?
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: So I don't think he wants to use them all.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: that's the one thing that Napoli has to their benefit.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: They have a strong midfield. So let's, let's hope that,
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: you know, they understand that. And like, he kind of,
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: you know, quells their minds in a sense of like, guys, like, yeah,
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: you guys might not all be getting all the minutes,
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: but it's not because I don't think you're lesser players.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: It's just that we have so much that I want
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: everybody to have a chance to be in there and,
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: you know, push for success. And if the team does
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: find some success or if they really do buy into Allegri,
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: I don't think anybody's really going to pay, be like
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: too bad.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: About it, you know? Yeah, the results have to come, though,
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the results do have to come. And this game,
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: like I said, would have been a 1-1 game if
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: it wasn't for that fuck-up. And a 1-1 game against Como,
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: which is a team that's been on the rise, is
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: actually a decent result, too. So it stings, but I
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: wouldn't hold my head down. I would hold my head
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: more up and like, you know what? It happens. Now
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: you just have to win on the game back. That's
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: all it is to even it out.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: Look, they play Inter this weekend. It is a big weekend.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: It doesn't get any easier.
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a big weekend because you've got Inter-Napoli, you've
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: got Roma-Atalanta, you've got Juve-Milan. Because even Atalanta, I think
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: they won both of their games. It was late winter today.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: Late winter today. It was a game that Bologna kind
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: of dominated. And Carnesecchi had to stand tall. I don't
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: know what the exact stats were. Let me pull it
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: up one second. Yeah, 15 shots. Only three on target
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: for Bologna. I felt like it was more, but Karnacekian
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: definitely had to make saves. 62% possession for Bologna, but
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: Atalanta did come through with the win. So look, you
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: got undefeated Atalanta against undefeated Roma, undefeated Milan against undefeated Juve,
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: and then undefeated Inter against Napoli. Obviously not undefeated, but
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: it's still Napoli. So it's a big weekend in the
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: Serie A. And I don't know what you guys expect
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: for this Inter-Napoli game because, look, even Inter, I wouldn't
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: say they– they definitely didn't struggle against Cagliari. It was
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: a 1-0 win. They dominated it. They had over 20
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: shots towards the net. But there was a goal line clearance,
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: I forget by whom, towards the end that kind of
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: stopped– you know, that kept the victory for Inter. So,
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: you know, maybe kind of like Napoli in their first
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: week that weren't all that convincing. Yeah. Look, a win
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: is a win, but I think maybe both teams after
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: this past weekend kind of need more of a statement win.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: Obviously more for Napoli than for Inter. But yeah, it's interesting.
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: Even look, even though Roma-Atalanta game this weekend, this is,
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: we're talking before about Milan-Juve, good test for both teams.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: Let's be real. This is a test for Roma that
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: are they legit? Even Atalanta, are they legit?
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: You know? Yeah. I know it's early. They've surprised me. Yeah,
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: I know, I know it's early. I know it's only
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: match week three, but it already feels it's going to,
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: it's going to have massive implications towards the end of
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: the season.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree. And I think for all six teams, Nick, uh,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: you know, it's, it's huge. Like any way you want to,
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: you know, cut this, this pie, you know, it, it,
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: it's a big, it's a big weekend for all six
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: teams involved in those matchups specifically. Um, obviously every game is,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: is a big game, but you know, these ones, especially, um,
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: I think for the Inter-Napoli game, obviously to Nick's point,
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: I do think it's Napoli maybe quote-unquote needs it more,
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: if you will. But even Inter too, man. I said
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: it last week, and again, as long as they keep
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: on winning and as long as they keep on doing well,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: I'll probably continue saying it. But this season, it's theirs
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: to lose. It's their Scudetto to lose. We said it
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: last week. um so you know they're gonna have to
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: go in week in and week out and perform at
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: the level that you know obviously we know that they
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: can perform at um chalonogu i don't know how many
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: you know outside the box goals he's gonna score this
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: season i think he's already at two so we'll see
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: if he keeps that up but um it's gonna be
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: kivu versus allegri and and is allegri Is he going
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: to be stubborn or is he going to really attack
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: this Inter? Last season with Milan, I think Milan stood
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: up and really took the deadbeat seriously and really showed
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: up for those games. And Allegri was able to get
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: his guys going for those big matchups. We'll see if
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: he can do the same for Napoli because I think
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: they definitely do need it because you don't want to
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: get behind the eight ball so early in the season.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: I think that's for all the teams. Obviously, you know,
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: our other teams are doing well so far. But you
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: look at a team like Fiorentina, and I hate to
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: pick on them because I do think they have– I
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: thought they were able to at least get seventh. We'll
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: see now if they even fucking get into the top
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: ten with the performance that they've been putting out there.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: But you don't want to get behind the eight ball
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: is my point so early on in the season, and
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: they've done exactly that. You know, they haven't scored a goal,
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: I don't believe, in two match days. Losing against teams that... Obviously,
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: the first one against Roma is tough. But again, seasons past,
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: probably could have maybe squeezed out a draw out of
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: that matchup. But losing against Frosinone the way they did, 3-0,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: I think was terrible. So you don't want to be
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: one of these big teams and kind of fall behind
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: the eight ball. Yeah. And, you know, I think for Napoli,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: I would think that they have that in mind because, again,
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: I don't want them to lose, but we have to
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: look at both sides because that is a possibility. Obviously,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: they can draw, but let's say they do lose. We're
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: coming back next week and talking the same thing that
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Johnny was saying tonight. about losing a game against a
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: direct rival who's chasing the same objectives as you are
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: for the most part. And you draw points against them.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens there. I think the Roma-Atalanta game, Nick,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: is another big one, to your point. You know, that's
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: the derby di Gasperini, I guess you will call it.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: I'm just curious to see what happens because... Again, people
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: always like to doubt Sarri, and I think I've been
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: guilty of doing it too. But this Sarri's Atalanta, I
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: don't know what it is. You know, they've been finding
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: a way in these first two match days. Obviously, today was, again,
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: I didn't see the goal. From Samaricic's celebration, it looked mental.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: So he was going bananas in the 96th minute. So,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: you know, it was a big win for them. but
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: they've made some moves in the, in the transfer market
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: as well. Whereas at the beginning of the market, they
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: didn't really make too many moves. They've been kind of,
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: they were kind of quiet. I know they've made a
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: couple of moves with, uh, with row, uh, coming from, uh,
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: from Bologna. Uh, they brought in Frank Hesse back, obviously, right. Uh,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: back to, back to Atlanta, you know, they, they lose
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: the room, they lose the room, but, uh, who goes
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: to Roma, but, um, They brought in Elmas, I saw,
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: you know, Sadi's guy, Elmas. So, obviously, they kept hold of,
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: you know, of Raspadori and, you know, Skamaka is obviously
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: still there and the Cattellari and other pieces of that nature.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: But they were good. So, that's a big matchup. And, again,
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: we said it before, but, you know, Juve-Milan, I think,
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: is almost as big as all those other matchups.
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: Can't wait for the 0-0 draw.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't want that to happen, but honestly,
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: I do think... Again, Nick, I don't know what you see.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: I do think we will see goals in the game.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: I would be... Honestly, I would be shocked if we
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: see a 0-0, if I'm honest.
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you agree or not. Look, out
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: of the last six games between the two teams, four
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: have finished 0-0.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: So.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: Out of the last six, you said?
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: Out of the last six, four have finished 0-0.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I let him be a part of some
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: of that, so that makes sense.
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: So, he already left Juve in 24-25. Sorry, he was
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: part of the ….
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: For Milan, he was on Milan.
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, true. Yeah, he was part of … Yeah, true,
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: he was part of uh one as coach juve and
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: then two more so so.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: That so so that that adds up now if we
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: take him out of the equation i think we sing
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: it hopefully we sing a different uh a different tune
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: uh you know after after this weekend but no joking
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: aside i do think we will see some goals um
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: you know with with this system of amarim and um
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: You know, even Spalletti's Juve, I know it's been a
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: struggle to get those goals, but I think, you know,
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: slowly but surely they will come. It might not be
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: from Colomwani. It seems like that might have to be
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: the case and it's going to come from other areas and,
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: you know, it's going to be what it's going to be.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: But I do think we will see some goals. I
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: don't think it's going to be a high scoring affair,
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: but I think we will see some goals in the matchup.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: And again, I guess the better team will win, hopefully.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: But yeah, just... Just three massive matches in match day three.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm looking forward to it.
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. And, you know, one last thing I
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: want to talk about, guys. We talked about the teams
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: that are 2-0, but there's seven teams that haven't won. Fiorentina, Venezia, Monza, Genoa, Parma, Bologna,
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: and Torino. Out of these teams, again, two games only.
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: But are there any teams that really concern you? Because
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: for me, it has to be Fiorentina. This is a
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: team that, you know, barely... you know, saved themselves in
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: Sicilia last year. Yeah, okay, there was a couple points
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: separation at the end with the relegation battle. But this
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: team has been struggling the past few years. You know,
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: I know behind the scenes, you know, with Camiso's passing
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: and everything, you know, there's been a bit of instability
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: as well. But, you know, they just celebrated their 100th anniversary.
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: They had this whole show for the fans. They wore
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: these special kits and they go out and lay a
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: stinker against Frosinone. For me, I'm worried. You know, look, Monza, Venezia,
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: newly promoted team, zero, zero wins, you know, whatever. Bologna,
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: it was against two good teams, Lazio and, and Atlanta today,
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: both won nothing, nothing crazy, right? Torino, whatever, you know,
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: they lost, it was the first game against Milan, I
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: forget who they lost to this past weekend. Parma, Genoa,
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: they lost to Sassuolo too, that's it, it was Sassuolo, Parma, Genoa,
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: it's like, you know, whatever, they're not surprised, they'll finish mid-table,
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: But for me, it has to be Fiorentina. Seven goals against,
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: zero scored. And they're a team that's supposed to have
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: a good summer market. And there were some players that
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: they brought in, like Mastantono. I think that's how I
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: pronounced his name correctly.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: Jonto has come back, as we saw, like the transfer rumors.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: Who's this?
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Sorry?
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: Wasn't it Wilfred Jonto that's coming back too?
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he came. He's back.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he came back as well.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: No, no, the list goes on. The list goes on.
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: They worry me. They worry me, Fiorentina.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing, man. I mean, again, it's not
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: FC26 or soon to be 27. You can't just start
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: buying all kinds of players and making all these transfers
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: and expecting it to all gel together so quickly. Again,
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: new sporting director, Paratici, I believe, right, is there now.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: New coach, Ingrosso, who none of us took as the
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: first coach sack, but we might have to add him
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: to the list because this start has been atrocious, but Um,
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: but joking aside, you know, new that's new, you know,
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: obviously a lot of new players and a lot and
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: an active market, which has been incredible. Like they've, the
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: list goes on. Like it's, it's, I saw them, they
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: brought in Beto, the, the former Udinese striker who was
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: at Everton. He comes in, you know, Matteo Pellegrino from,
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: from Panama. They lose Keane. Obviously that one hurts, but
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: they brought in so many other pieces to, to, to,
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: to add to that. So, you know, uh, you know, Dragusin, the,
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: the former Juve, uh, right, uh, center back, uh, you know, the,
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: you know, Mastantuono obviously is the big name from Real Madrid.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: It's a name that I didn't think would ever come
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: to Serie A, you know, especially at such a young age, but,
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: you know, he does, um, I, again, Gnonto, right, to,
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: to Willy Gnonto from, from Leeds today, uh, you know, uh,
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: it was, was, was, was, you know, with the team. So, um,
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: you know, they're, they've added so many pieces and, um,
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: plus the team that they've already had, even though the
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: results weren't coming last season, I do think they had
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: some decent Serie A quality players, uh, who have Serie
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: A experience. Um, and again, it's been two match days
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: and they haven't been able to figure out how to
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: get on the score sheet. Like it's, it's, that's the
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: worry worrisome part for me. Um, you know, I do
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: think eventually they will turn it around. I hope it's
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: under Grosso, uh, just for his sake. And obviously the
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: memories that we have with Grosso, but as a manager,
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: he has to be able to show it, right. He
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: has to be able to, to perform as a manager
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: with this club. So I think that's been the biggest
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: disappointment just in terms of the, the, the heavy, you know,
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: heavyset market that they've been able to achieve, um, and
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: bringing in all kinds of players. Like, I'm missing so many. Like, Ulay,
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: you know, Valdepeñas, the left back. Alex Jimenez, you know,
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: the former Milan, you know, wingback. You know, Ata from,
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: I think, Udinese. So, like, the list goes on. Like,
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: it's just incredible how many names they've been able to...
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: The Torino kid, the guy who came on at the
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: end of Torino and Milan. I forget what nationality he
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: is there. nije i think i don't know how you
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: pronounce his name uh he comes on had a hell
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: of a spark in that last like 20 minutes against
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: milan fucking futentina signs him like for 20 million so
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: or 20 something million or i think that's what i
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: had seen so you know he's on the squad so
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: it just that's what gets me is that uh uh
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: you know that that's what kind of gets me but
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: um uh hopefully they're able to get it all going
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: and really be able to build an actual squad, because
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: these are just names that we're naming, but they have
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: to be able to acclimate as a squad, and hopefully
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: under Grosso, they're able to do so. But another team
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: I do want to throw in there, and again, maybe
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: obviously it's not the same level as the Fiorentina, and
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: that's obviously the easiest answer. I'll throw in Genoa in there,
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: because I do think, you know, I don't want to
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: say unlucky in both matchups, but had chances to at
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: least get points in both the matchups, again, against Napoli,
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: against Lazio over the weekend, losing by, you know, slim
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: enough margins in both matchups. I think De Rossi's Genoa
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: has been, I don't want to say unlucky, but because
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: they have to be able to be better. But, you know,
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: I would throw their name in there because I think
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: they were able, they could have had, they had chances,
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: I think, to at least scrape some points. at least
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: one in two matchups, if you want to say that.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: And they've come out with zero. So, you know, obviously
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: we're pulling for a guy like De Rossi as well.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: I think, you know, slowly but surely that project hopefully,
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: you know, gets going in the right direction too for
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: Genoa and for De Rossi's sake. But yeah, those two
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: teams for me would be the ones I would circle
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: for sure. Johnny, I don't know if you have any
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: other one to add, the teams in the bottom?
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: No, honestly, I think Fiorentina is probably the number one suspect.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, like, Parma, obviously, because of their history, you know,
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: you kind of worry about them too and stuff. But,
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: you know, there used to be a club that used
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: to have, like, these big-name players. And eventually, you know,
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: they eventually, like, they have a history. You know, they
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: have a Europa League title and all that jazz. Like,
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: Fiorentina is one of the, yeah, the one that's at
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: the South Adelaide that have been there consistently for a
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: long time. And a team that you could close your
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: eyes and you could point them somewhere in the top
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: 10 and more often than not, you'd be correct. But
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: now the past two years, it hasn't been that way.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: And it's concerning, you know, and I have a soft
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: spot for that team. You know, I watched the game
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: at the Terminal Franqui. I love the people there. The
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: ultras are fantastic. Their chants are phenomenal. A lot of
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: history in that stadium, a lot of history in that city.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: you know, you know, Batistuta is always going to have
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: a big place in my heart, you know, and he
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: was a prominent player for that, for that team. You
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: hate to see this. You honestly hate to see this.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: And it's getting to a point where it's like, there's
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: something fundamentally wrong. And it's no matter, like, cause Italiano
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: came in and, you know, it wasn't, it wasn't the best,
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: like he managed to get them to a conference league final, but,
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: And then after that, things just, you know, fall downhill.
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: And now you're trying to go manager after manager. You're
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: adding these names. You're trying to get Moise Keane to
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: come in there and rejuvenate his career. Now you're going
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: to get Nianto, another Italian, you know, potential prospect, a
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: hopeful prospect. I mean, like somebody who can develop into
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: a more consistent player for La Nazionale, you know, like
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: hopefully that he gets rejuvenated in this roster. But I
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: think there's something in the.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: The best word, oh, my God, foundation. That's the word
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to find. There's something in the foundation. They
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: really need to build that new stadium, I guess, because
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: it's something.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fucking crumbling, man. It's falling apart. It's falling
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: apart when we went fucking seven years ago. It was the.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: Best when I went, too. It was still nice, though.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: It was still really cool. And it's like I'm looking
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: up like, oh, I'm in La Tribuna, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: Are you sure? You're almost like going to fall down. Yeah.
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: The wind is flying. It's hitting you. You know, you're like,
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: if I lean back, I'm falling over. But it's still
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: something that's like, that's probably the team that you're looking at.
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: And you're like, this does not make sense. Parma being
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: in the bottom 10, that can kind of make sense
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: as of given their recent history and whatnot.
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: Monza. you know what I mean?
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: Like, it's basically the issue is right now is that
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: Fiorentina's got something fundamentally wrong and they really need to
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: solve this issue. Now, is it because, you know, they
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: lost Comiso, so the club itself, the management group is
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: a bit all over the sorts, you know, they're trying to,
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: who knows? Is it because it's unfortunate and it's a
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: big loss?
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: And they lost Comiso and Joe Barone. They lost both
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: of them in quick succession. Two guys, obviously two Americans,
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: a long-time friend trying to rejuvenate this project, and they
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: both pass. I think that's hard, man. Again, it's no excuse,
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: but it's definitely looming over the club.
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: That's why. And at the end of the day, it's
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: like money talks. As shitty as it sounds, and I
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: hate that that's the reality of, of our world but
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: yeah money talks and the more you lose the less
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: money you make and the fans are going to get
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: more uh annoyed about things so you have to find
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: a way to turn this around because the fan base
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: in in firenze is loyal they're they're they're very loyal
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: to la viola like it's yeah it's not because if
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: these people are never going to go to games it's
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: like they have a history that is sustainable but when
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: push comes to shove you know like people are getting
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: frustrated because It's like us here with... I was going
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: to say FC Montreal. No, they're the fucking Impact. Over
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: here in Montreal. We're going to be frustrated. And finally,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: he decides to make a transfer for Alexi Sanchez. I'm like, buddy,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: it's 10 years too late to get a transfer.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: Just to lose 7-1 against Miami.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: That was like, what the fuck am I watching?
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: It's okay. When we said we wanted to play like Brazil,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: it didn't mean to lose 7-1.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: So....
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: I might get in trouble later.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: It's okay. Gabby's waiting around the corner.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: She already said yes, so it doesn't matter. She can't
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: turn back now, fuck.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: She can't turn back if she murders.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: Him, right? We'll know where to go. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: We'll look at the camera.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: You're absolutely right, Johnny. I think it's a lot. It
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: also sucks, and I think Nick mentioned it, you know,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: they brought out, I don't know if you guys saw,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: but they brought out all these legends for the 100th
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: anniversary of the club, such a historic club, you know,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: you saw Batistuta walk the pitch again, you saw Rui
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: Costa walk the pitch again, you know, Sebastian Frey, you know,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: for us, you know, Pepito Rossi, right, you know, the
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: matchable game against Juve all those years ago, and the
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: list goes on and on and on, I'm obviously missing
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: so many, but Just to say that, and that's the
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: performance you go out and put. I would be embarrassed
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: and ashamed to even talk to the media after and
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: have to deal with that. Again, no disrespect to Comiso's
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: son Giuseppe there, but what the fucking mother do the talking?
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: This guy, I don't know. He can't address the media,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: I don't think. It's not for him, I don't think.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: And again, it's not a job. It's not disrespect, but
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: just we'll call a spade a spade there. The mother
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: speaks a lot more eloquently and a lot more respectfully.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: Not respectfully, but just better, if that makes sense. But
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: it's been a lot with the club, and it sucks
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: because I think we all have kind of a soft
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: spot for the team. It's just a team that you
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: kind of– it's easy to root for, even if you're
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: a rival of theirs. It's a team that I think
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: you can easily root for We can look back and
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: turn back to even the David de Astori passing from
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: all those years ago. That's still prominent with the club.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: It's a shame. Hopefully, they're able to turn quick. Hopefully,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: like I said, these players that they have added, the
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: Neontos of the world and such, Mastantuono and others, they're
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: able to gel and make a push forward. just even,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: we'll even say fucking mid-table for crying out loud, like,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: just don't get relegated, like, we can't see that, so,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: we'll see. One last thing I want to throw out
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: there before we wrap it up, shout out to Christian Volpato,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: you know, showing off, scoring a great goal, and holding
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: up Isma Okone's jersey for, you know, to obviously show
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: support for Isma, and And, you know, for the injury
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: that he did get in the World Cup, breaking his
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: leg and stuff. So I just want to shout him out.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: And Mimo Berardi for getting on the score sheet again.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: It's been a while that with his injury, you know,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: history over the last season or so, getting on the
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: score sheet with another beauty with that left foot was
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: good to see as well.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: And, you know, that'll do it for us this week, guys.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: Big week coming up in Serie A.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: Huge.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: Huge week. And then we'll be back next week. It
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: is nice because usually this is the time when they
• 1:04:09
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