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Furness Show 12-15: Hugh Millen, Brandon Montour, Mike Sando and Jason Botterill · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 2: That's what they needed to win. They get to win
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  Speaker 2: over the Baltimore Sorry, God, how about that Ian? How
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  Speaker 2: old are you the Baltimore Colts. He's laughing right now
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  Speaker 2: while your ways sears the Indian Helpolis Colts?
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  Speaker 3: How old?
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  Speaker 2: Well not, I'm a little older in Philip Rivers, but
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  Speaker 2: I guess not too much. They didn't get to win.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to that with Hugh in just a couple
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  Speaker 2: of seconds. Crack and lost yesterday the Sabers three to one,
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  Speaker 2: Colorado tomorrow, seven o'clock six thirty pre game here on KJAR.
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  Speaker 2: Huskies destroyed Boise State in the final ever LA Bowl
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  Speaker 2: over the weekend, thirty eight to ten. Also on Friday,
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  Speaker 2: we learned that Washington State has hired Kirby Moore, former
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  Speaker 2: at Washington State. Big news in the NFL yesterday, a
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  Speaker 1: Hugh with the Inverness on Sports Radio ninety three point
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  Speaker 2: Hugh Millan joins us to start the show. After the
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks get a win yesterday over the let me say
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  Speaker 2: it Indianapolis Colts, not the Baltimore I said, as I
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  Speaker 2: said in the headlines, for a second, guy, that's I'm
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  Speaker 2: really dating myself there.
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  Speaker 5: Baltimore quarterback blackps Man, you're giving me a yeah, the
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  Speaker 5: flat top and oh man, that's it a vivid imagery.
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  Speaker 2: Oh god, that's uh. Can we flush that game and
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  Speaker 2: move on to Thursday? Can we just flush that thing yesterday?
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  Speaker 1: Well?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, obviously it was a clunker of a
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  Speaker 5: game offensively, but I don't know, I just I don't
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  Speaker 5: get some of the tenor that I'm hearing a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: Because the Seattle Seahawks are number one in the NFL
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  Speaker 5: in point margin one hundred and sixty three point. There's
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  Speaker 5: only three teams that are over one hundred ian they have.
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  Speaker 5: This is how they This is their ranking since you
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  Speaker 5: know they got their play. This is after Tampa Bay,
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  Speaker 5: so this is over the the last nine games. I'm
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  Speaker 5: not gonna say number one in all of this everything.
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  Speaker 5: I'm about to say the Seahawks defense is number one
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  Speaker 5: in the NFL since Week five. Okay, points per game,
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  Speaker 5: yards per game, points per drive, yards per play, passing
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  Speaker 5: yards per game, net yards per tamp, defensive VPA per
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  Speaker 5: play defensive VPA per game. They are the best defense
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  Speaker 5: by any measure in the NFL since from Week six,
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  Speaker 5: six and beyond. That's not an insignificant portion of the season.
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  Speaker 5: That's nine of the game. And then look, I look
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  Speaker 5: at this football team. And if you go into the
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  Speaker 5: facility at Rent and you know this, you've been there,
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  Speaker 5: there's what they call the rooms, right, they always say
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  Speaker 5: the rooms. There's a QB room, a wide receiver room,
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  Speaker 5: a tight end room, a running back room, an O
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  Speaker 5: line room, a dl D line room, linebackers dbs and
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  Speaker 5: call it the specialists. So we got nine rooms. They
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  Speaker 5: are they are above the median too good to you know,
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  Speaker 5: near great in eight of the nine.
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  Speaker 2: Rooms, yep, yep. And they're the.
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  Speaker 5: Second youngest team. Well, I just I'm trying to imagine
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  Speaker 5: a player, you know, driving around and and and he's like,
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  Speaker 5: are we the Jets? Like what, like, do you think
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  Speaker 5: that you're you're you're gonna win every game? Is it
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  Speaker 5: like you think it's it's you know, USC against Long
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  Speaker 5: beat State, Like I don't know, I don't know it
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  Speaker 5: was Alousie game. But that are pretty damn good football, Hugh.
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  Speaker 2: I I look at it this way, and by the way,
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  Speaker 2: when you when you bring up point differential, people are like, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's it's two teams kind of separate from
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  Speaker 2: everybody else. It's it's Seattle one to sixty three, the
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  Speaker 2: Rams one to fifty nine. As good as the Broncos are,
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  Speaker 2: they're not even above They're not even above that number.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, the Patriot. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But I brought this up to MJ moment ago, and
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think this probably just comes from from
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  Speaker 2: the years of of doing this and covering these guys
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  Speaker 2: and going especially you know, a lot of times were
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  Speaker 2: on the road and they'd squeak out a win and people, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you know this is like during the Heyday, right, Wow,
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  Speaker 2: they snuck out a win there. I'm like, guys, the
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  Speaker 2: NFL is different because I think we live in the
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  Speaker 2: world of college football. Sometimes there's no subjective committee that's
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  Speaker 2: gonna sit down and say, Seahawks are really good defensively, man,
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  Speaker 2: that offense, I don't know, maybe they maybe maybe we'll
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  Speaker 2: put them, well, they'll be the eight seed in the
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  Speaker 2: in the NFL, you know, playoff tournament. That's not how
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  Speaker 2: it works. The NFL is really simple. If you win
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  Speaker 2: you're in. If you don't, you're not. There's no subjective nature.
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  Speaker 2: It's the left column wins, the right column losses. And
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  Speaker 2: if you get to in today's NFL ten eleven twelve wins,
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna have a chance with the super Bowl. And that, frankly,
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  Speaker 2: I think that to me, that's all that matters. That's all.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, no doubt and and the uh, there's double digit
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  Speaker 5: wins by the Seahawks. There's only one team that has
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  Speaker 5: more the Rams. Look, I think the Rams are a
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  Speaker 5: better team. I think there's a reason why they're favored.
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  Speaker 5: They're one and a half point favorite plus. You know
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  Speaker 5: that really means that they think that the Vegas thinks
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  Speaker 5: are about four and a half point favorites in a
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  Speaker 5: neutral site, right, Like, the Rams deserve to be described
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  Speaker 5: as a better team. They have nearly as good a
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  Speaker 5: defense as Seattle, but apparently they have a lot better offense.
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  Speaker 5: Guess what their coach has been there for like seven years.
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  Speaker 5: Their quarterback like they they they're they're a mature program
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  Speaker 5: on offense where it takes the most conceised cohesions. So
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  Speaker 5: you got you're in your number one with a twenty
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  Speaker 5: eight year old quarterback. You're you're number one with the coordinator.
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  Speaker 5: In all likelihood, we're gonna eulogize you. We're gonna be
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  Speaker 5: doing a show just like this after a playoff loss,
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  Speaker 5: and we're gonna say, what, what do you need to
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  Speaker 5: fix the offensive line?
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  Speaker 2: Real well, well, let's let's get into this.
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  Speaker 5: Are really probably not much of a mystery.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's a hardcore football human and that's why you
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  Speaker 2: have you on. Let's just get right to it. And
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  Speaker 2: I I don't I know that, And I say, it
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  Speaker 2: feels like a broken record, probably because you and I
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  Speaker 2: talk off, well, you know, I talk off. I don't
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  Speaker 2: get a chance to talk to you off the air
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  Speaker 2: about the offensive line. Apparently you talked to my kid
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  Speaker 2: about it instead. But that's cool, which I gotta tell you. Yeough. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he came downstairs afterwards. I don't know, it was middle
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  Speaker 2: last week and the last week whenever it was. He
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  Speaker 2: comes downstairs afterwards, and he said, Dad, I just had
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  Speaker 2: a great conversation with Hugh about offensive line play and
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  Speaker 2: into this and that and the fact you value his opinion.
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  Speaker 2: But he came down he was I'll say this, I
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  Speaker 2: think he was a little tired after college football and
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  Speaker 2: a little not burned out, but just a little tired.
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  Speaker 2: He came down just energized, wanting to talk, and I said, well,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I can't talk to you. I can't talk
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  Speaker 2: to you on that level, fella. But I think the
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  Speaker 2: fact that you respect the offensive line and what they
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  Speaker 2: do he appreciates. But so I always kind of like,
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  Speaker 2: am I talking to my kid or Hugh off off
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  Speaker 2: the air. So I don't want to stay it on
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  Speaker 2: like a broken record, because we do talk about the
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  Speaker 2: offensive line a lot. But let's go down.
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonn like, just give me twenty seconds. When I
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  Speaker 5: was a head coaching youth football, there's a PA system.
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  Speaker 5: You're playing in high school stadium, so if there's a
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  Speaker 5: sack or defensive lineman makes a tackle, they get their
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  Speaker 5: name Hurd. The offensive line are the only one who
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  Speaker 5: never can get their name Hurd. So I would do
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  Speaker 5: all these things.
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  Speaker 2: I would.
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  Speaker 5: I would say, who's the engine of our team? Everybody
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  Speaker 5: have to say offensive line? And when we kneeled down
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  Speaker 5: and say I'd say, make sure you reach out, make
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  Speaker 5: sure you're touching an offensive lineman right now on the shoulder.
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  Speaker 5: They would be first in line in stretching. When we
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  Speaker 5: did the team greeting, the offensive line, we're always at
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  Speaker 5: the front. Like I did everything to just drive home
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  Speaker 5: that the offensive line is the core. So yeah, I
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  Speaker 5: absolutely value that, and I just wish John Schnyder valued
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  Speaker 5: it a little bit more.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, did did Keiffer? Did he give you
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  Speaker 2: any good insight? Did he did you know what the
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  Speaker 2: hell he's talking? Did you know what he's talking about?
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  Speaker 2: Did he know what he's talking about when he talked
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  Speaker 2: to him?
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  Speaker 5: Oh he's on it, he's on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you know, he's five hundred levels. He's good.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, pretty cerebral.
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  Speaker 5: Kids, So we should actually kick you to the curb
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  Speaker 5: and just he Keifer and I do this second.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he would probably think that'd be a good idea,
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  Speaker 2: but I still have to pay until he gets a
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  Speaker 2: career off the charge.
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  Speaker 5: All right, So where are we going? What did you
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  Speaker 5: think yesterday?
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  Speaker 2: So what I want to just go is with this,
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  Speaker 2: let's talk offensive line, and let's just let's talk in
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  Speaker 2: a from a hardcore sense in this in this way
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  Speaker 2: they I mean, the first half was way more abysmal now,
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  Speaker 2: but real quick, they needed to drive at the end
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  Speaker 2: and they executed it and they got now, all being
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  Speaker 2: a fifty six yard but they got there to get
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  Speaker 2: the field goal. So good on them and good on
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  Speaker 2: the offense at the end. But on a macro level, Hugh,
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  Speaker 2: we talk a lot about Anthony Bradford, although there's some
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  Speaker 2: people in this town that think he's good or good
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  Speaker 2: enough for what have you. And maybe PFF gave a
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  Speaker 2: good grade at one point. But let's just take not
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  Speaker 2: just Bradford at right guard, let's take the entire the entirety,
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  Speaker 2: the all five guys. Do you see schematic issues? Do
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  Speaker 2: you see talent issues? Do you see guys that aren't
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  Speaker 2: onunderstanding what the responsibilities are and their assignments are. What?
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  Speaker 2: What is it when you're looking at it from your
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  Speaker 2: eyes that you see to be the issue with that
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  Speaker 2: offensive line?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I see too often they don't execute their blocks,
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  Speaker 5: and I think that it's it's a physical case. I
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  Speaker 5: think in sundal Uh he really blows me away with
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  Speaker 5: his athleticism. I mean, he can run and reach in
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  Speaker 5: ways that very few centers can do. But when it
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  Speaker 5: comes to anchoring down on a bullrush, you know he
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  Speaker 5: doesn't have great strength. You know, we're we're all twitter
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  Speaker 5: paid with Gray's undel uh zendel. But he is, you know,
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  Speaker 5: he's he's good and I think he's going to be
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  Speaker 5: really good and and I love the pick, so we're
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  Speaker 5: all all systems go on on him. But you know,
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  Speaker 5: he misses some blocks too. Now I think he's going
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  Speaker 5: to be really good. So that was a good pick.
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  Speaker 5: As far as Charles Cross, he'll he'll he'll uh make
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  Speaker 5: the block a little bit too deep in the backfield
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  Speaker 5: for me. He's a better athlete than Lucas. Lucas is
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  Speaker 5: just kind of okay, and bradfordis is, in my estimation,
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  Speaker 5: you know, very subpar. So I think that there's some
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  Speaker 5: upgrading you need to do. But you know, yesterday, no
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  Speaker 5: matter what you did, you tried to the ends outside
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  Speaker 5: on the stretch and the pin and pool. You had
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  Speaker 5: two different basic schemes. You did stretch from a handoff,
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  Speaker 5: you did stretch from a toss, you did pin and
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  Speaker 5: poll to the outside. Your seven carries fifteen yards, that's
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  Speaker 5: two point one, okay. When you when you ran in
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  Speaker 5: the middle.
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  Speaker 2: In stop, there isn't that supposed to be what this was?
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  Speaker 2: I was supposed to.
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  Speaker 5: Be yep, supposed to be the deal. Yep, and and
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  Speaker 5: and by the way, yeah, uh when you run in
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  Speaker 5: the middle when they ran in the middle, yes, say,
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  Speaker 5: nine carries twenty nine yards three point two hours, not
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  Speaker 5: much better one one playoff tackle for four yards. Two backs,
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  Speaker 5: there's only one play. Now you didn't have Robbie uts,
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  Speaker 5: but but you had one play for negative one on
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  Speaker 5: a rushing And for the season, a lot of talk
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  Speaker 5: about two back robby hoots and everything has not materialized whatsoever.
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  Speaker 5: Your for the season. Your three point one yards per
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  Speaker 5: attempt when you're when you have a fullback in the game.
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  Speaker 5: That's opposed to four point four yards per attempt when
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  Speaker 5: you when you don't have a fullback in the game.
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  Speaker 5: So all that talk about just being stomp crush killed
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  Speaker 5: and being able to exert your physicality and go play
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  Speaker 5: action with all that out of two back has not
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  Speaker 5: shown itself. And then and then now what I'm about
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  Speaker 5: to give you these this has not been updated from
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  Speaker 5: yesterday yet, but it'll only get worse. What the numbers
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  Speaker 5: I'm about to give you once you're in update the
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  Speaker 5: indie game. Uh running power encounter, that's gap scheme, that's
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  Speaker 5: blocking down to the point attack and pulling from the backside. Uh,
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  Speaker 5: you're twenty fourth in the league and yards per attempt
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  Speaker 5: in power, twenty ninth in count and what's called dual
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  Speaker 5: that's like double team at the point, but you don't
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  Speaker 5: bring a polar. There's seventeenth in the NFL. Inside zone
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  Speaker 5: they're twenty fifth in the NFL that you know, So
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  Speaker 5: outside zone they're fourteenth, middle of the pack. That's the
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  Speaker 5: only one of all the different run schemes where they're
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  Speaker 5: slightly above the median. But it's gonna go down, like
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  Speaker 5: I said, once they racked those those cult numbers into it.
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  Speaker 5: So so there's there's no alternate scheme that's gonna be
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  Speaker 5: coming through the door today to rescue the running game
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  Speaker 5: for the rest of the season.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 5: It's not like I said, Okay, now we're going to
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  Speaker 5: become a power and counter team.
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  Speaker 2: You know. I just I just double checked this because
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  Speaker 2: I thought I heard this yesterday. I want to double
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  Speaker 2: check it. Robbie Ootz was a healthy scratch yesterday. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: So that's that's that that that to me, I'm like
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  Speaker 2: banging my head against the wall right now. Like what
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  Speaker 2: like like when he got hurt, it was like oh god,
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  Speaker 2: this is gonna hurt this team for the next few weeks.
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  Speaker 2: And they had to put him on IR with the
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  Speaker 2: with the ankle, and now he's a healthy scratch. Does
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  Speaker 2: that make sense.
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  Speaker 5: If it's totally healthy. Well, it just it makes sense
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  Speaker 5: if you if you think of, you know, in fourth
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  Speaker 5: of July when you're lighting off firecrackers and then there's
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  Speaker 5: a dut. I don't want to say Robbie Yats is
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  Speaker 5: a dat. I don't want to be personal like that.
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  Speaker 5: I'm saying that the whole build up and the anticipation
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  Speaker 5: about what the offense would be with two backs, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: that that has just like like a fit, like a
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  Speaker 5: firecracker that doesn't go off, just you know. So, so
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  Speaker 5: I think that Clint Kubiak is exhausting everything and it's
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  Speaker 5: not going to get better. They're just going to have
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  Speaker 5: to manage it and you know, maybe just play with.
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  Speaker 2: A little more.
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  Speaker 5: Uh, I can say a little more for I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I really honestly don't know. Like if you're asking me
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  Speaker 5: to say, what's going to fix the running game? Better players?
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  Speaker 2: Well, okay, take better players, because that's not going to
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  Speaker 2: happen unless you I mean, I still understand like why
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  Speaker 2: Haynes doesn't get more run as opposed to Bradford. But
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  Speaker 2: if did I not see brad for pulling and missing
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  Speaker 2: again yesterday?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that was on a power left and and now
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  Speaker 5: that was with uh lot to was it? Was it
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  Speaker 5: not number ninety seven for right?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 5: So that actually could have been a penalty because there
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  Speaker 5: is a penalty called defense of the legal block. If
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  Speaker 5: you if you go and and and throw yourself at
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  Speaker 5: the knees of a blocker, you can you can get
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  Speaker 5: a blocking below the waist on the defense right and
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  Speaker 5: and so I think that was a borderline penalty. But
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  Speaker 5: you know, Bradford slow, I don't know why you'd pull
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  Speaker 5: the right guard on that scheme. I would I'd rather
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  Speaker 5: pull Gray's Abel, who's a much better athlete, and and
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  Speaker 5: run power right instead of power left. But they ran
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  Speaker 5: power left and and I wouldn't want to run into
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  Speaker 5: lat too, because he's their best defensive lineman.
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  Speaker 2: And so the play Is there a play call that
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  Speaker 2: could mask I mean, you've you've played behind and you've coached,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure, and you've watched subpar offensive line. Is there
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  Speaker 2: anything a play caller can do? You?
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  Speaker 5: Maybe you can try and do see gap power, but
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: that would involve you know, a great fullback. Uh that
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: that that's where you get a tight end if you
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: if you really have a good blocking tight end, you
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: can get down blocks and he can get the mic.
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: But you got to have grave Zabel. He'd have to
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: pull from the left guard fit up on the sam
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: and you'd but you'd have to have you'd have to
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: have a kickout with the fullback on the end. You know,
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: if you can get an overfront with a wide end,
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: you know, that's that's a tough block on a full back.
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: But here we were just talking a moment ago for
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: uh about how how he's not even in there. You
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: know most teams don't try and do that, but that
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: that would be one thing that you could try. The
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: trap that they you know occasionally on third down a
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: trap that third I mean they that power left that
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: they ran where Bradford just was this kind of a
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: grenade that was third and four along for uh down,
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: you know down the reds. I was like, what you know,
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: if you can do that, why don't you just kick
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: the field going third down? Like that's just a give up.
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: So I so at an event, I don't. I don't
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: think it was the best play calling day in Clint
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: Kubiak's career. You know, I thought there's a number of
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: times in watching the tape where I thought, you know what,
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: I thought the Colts just I don't even know who
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: their defensive coordinator. No, it's a guy from Cincinnati, uh,
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: Amarilla whatever. He's the guy that that what's his name?
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: Please help me? But he was a defense coordinator for
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: Cincinnati and when when they when they the Bengals beat
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: the Chiefs in the AFC Championship to get to the
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: Super Bowl, he was a d C. So I think,
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: you know, he's he's been good in the past. I
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: thought he was really good on Sunday. There's a number
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: of times I was like, whoa, they gloved that up
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: pretty good and uh, and I thought that they they
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: on the wide plays, uh, the perimeter attack where the
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: safeties in the corners were really replacing one another and
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: getting to the point of attack and stopping some of
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: those those wide runs. As I said, seven carries fifteen
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: yards on on the on the wide zone and the
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: pinn and polls stuff, so they could see all couldn't
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: get to the end. I don't know if somebody was decrying, well,
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: they're just keep trying to running up the middle. Well,
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: you know what, they had a little bit better, you know,
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: by a yard per carry average, they were one point
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: one they yards per carrier. They were better up the
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: middle than they were to the end. So the end
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: wasn't giving you anything. So it just was you're banging
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: your head against the all day.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Lou Anirumoo. That's it. Yeah, the uh, yeah, the whole thing.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: It's frustrating because I guess what I think we're looking
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: at is and I there's no reason to at this
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: point to compare to twenty you know, thirteen fourteen to
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: fifty defense the defenses. But we do know this that
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: that great defense that won a Super Bowl and got
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: back to another Super Bull and went to the playoffs
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: and all the things that they did during that time.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: They had a more They had a more than adequate offense.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: They had a good offense. They had a great running game,
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: obviously with Marshawn Russ was in his prime, you know,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Doug Germaine and et cetera, Golden Tate. They had solid
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: receivers like they had, you know, and I think that's
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: the hard part. I gotta take a break, but I'm
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: gonna come back because listen, we always talk. They won
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: the game, that's the big thing. But I know everyone
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: here is concerned. I guess what would give me hope?
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: And you can help me out here. I just asked
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: you about play calling with him. It feels like the
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: skill players on the offense are really good, like I've
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: been encouraged. I think skill wise they're good. I'll ask
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: you about that and then quickly touching on a little
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: bit on the rams as well. What's a massive game
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: coming up this week? It's a hardcore football Humilan is
• 19:51
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• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Harcour Football continues to mailing with me. Deal you with me? Yeah?
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I got you all right?
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Good?
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: Did you ever truck do that one?
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Hey? Uh? I mentioned the offense. Actually I want to
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: take a pit at you. I want to talk a
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: little defense if I can't first after yeah, d like
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: just an elite defense. You mentioned the point offerential this
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: season and what they've done and we're going to see
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: them on Thursday with the Rams second and go round.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: They kind of held Stafford and check that last game,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: which is great. What jumped out at me, Hugh is,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: first of all, the national narrative, the forty four year
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: old quarterback that had a seventy three passer rating. Great.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a good story, I guess and all that.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: And I understand the desperation you're trying not to have
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: a guy, you know, and Riley Leonard their rookie, come
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: in and throw three interceptions and lose the game for
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: you there. But to me, you know, the Seahawks, they
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: gave up the one touchdown, they gave up some yards
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: along the way, but they didn't make any big mistakes.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: But the bigger thing to me was this that last drive,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Seattle takes the lead, Indianapolis gets the ball back at
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: two twenty seven to twenty one to go in the game,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: the two minute warnings shut you know, the clock management
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: with using the timeouts and all that. I think the
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: play of the game, to me, though, Hugh, was this,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: It's it's a third and seven at the Seattle forty six.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Seattle has to get a stop there if they want
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: to win the football game, they have to get a
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: stop there. To me, what defines a great defense are
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: moments and plays like that. And yeah, we could say
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: at Philip Rivers or whatever, they still have Jonathan Taylor,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: they still got a great tight end, they got Pittman.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: I just I thought that last drive they gave up
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: some yards. They gave up the sixty yard field goal,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: but a sixty yard field goal in that stadium is
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: not easy. But getting that stop on that third and
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: seven was massive.
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: When you're talking about that before the field goal or
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: the that they gave up to Alec Pierce.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, before the field goal, when Jonathan Taylor
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: ran for four yards, that guy's easily could break time.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, I just thought that's a big play. Yeah,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: maybe it was a give up play by Indianapolis, but
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you really wanted your guy kicking
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: sixty three or sixty four. He ended up kicking sixty.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: But I thought that was a big play by the
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: scale defense.
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, it really was. And and I think that
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: you're kind of in a little bit of desperation mode.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: You're selling out. You leave yourself a little bit vulnerable
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: on the play action.
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: And.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I.
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: Am just amazed at the frequency with these sixty yarders
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: that we see now, But yeah, it is. But you know,
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: for Philip Rivers, you're talking about his performance one hundred
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: and twenty yards. He was on passes where the ball
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: went more than five yards from the line, screamage more
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: than five five are yards. He was two of nine
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: and he had one hundred and twenty yards. If a
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: quarterback did that over the course of the season and
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: had two thousand and forty yards, he would be half,
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: actually less than half of the average that quarterbacks have
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: when they play seventeen There was basically right at half.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: There was eleven quarterbacks who now, excuse me, fourteen quarterbacks.
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: Last year, Ian let me start over. Fourteen quarterbacks played
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: seventeen games. The minimum was thirty five hundred and forty
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: one yards. The average was four thousand and fifty eight.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: And so the pace that Rivers would have if he
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: did that for a season would be ungodly, you know, inefficient,
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: and the Colts would have the number one picking the
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: draft and they'd be taking a quarterback if a quarterback
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: did that. So Philip Rivers, all he did was impress
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: this because he's forty four. But if you talk about
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: the performance by the quarterback, it was nothing.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: He was the tallest short person, is what it is.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: I mean something like that that doesn't make you Yeah,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: I like him, And you know, had he not been
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: playing the Seahawks, I'd be rooting for the old guy,
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: you know, you know, Jack Nicholas in eighty six the Masters.
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: I mean, who doesn't want to root for the oldest
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: guy out there?
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: But and the story was good and all that. I
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: just you know, listen, it's hardcore football. But there's also
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: a science to football that you studied for years, you know,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: when you were working for Bodden right making, you know,
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: helping make footballs and things like that. I want to
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: ask you this because I think this is something that
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: I just I still am amazed by. In baseball, the
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: only reason they have spring training for a month and
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: a half in baseball is because they need to get
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: guys pitchers, specifically their arms amped up and ready to go, right, Like,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: you got to build up that arm strength. Yeah, you've
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: thrown more footballs in your life than anybody listening combined has,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: so you know about the science of throwing a football.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: You throw in the fact that guy's got kind of
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: an or unorthodox throwing motion everything else. How realistic is
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: it to expect a guy to come in without having
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: a throw in an NFL pass with NFL velocity against
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Devin Witherspoon and other NFL defensive backs. How realistic is
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: it for anybody expect to do that with two days
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: of practice in the NFL?
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: It isn't. That's why he didn't throw the ball down
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: the field. And I don't think he's gonna do it
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: on Monday night either. He may complete balls down the field,
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: but it's gonna be because of anticipation, and there's gonna
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: be arc on the ball. I mean, there's just not
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: gonna be paced, don't. I don't think he can do it.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: How fast you spin a ball, it's not Spirals aren't
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: just pretty. You don't put us. I've had footballs and
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: wind tunnels. The faster you spin, you know, if you
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: can get up seven and twenty RPMs or more, you
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: start to cut down the aerodynamic wake. It's not unlike
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: when you drag an in or two behind a boat.
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: You know, like there's wake, and it's very similar in
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: aerodynamics than it is in hydraulics and so all other
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: factors being equal, you spin that ball faster and it
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: cuts through the air and it has more velocity, so
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: that you know, you know, he could probably spin it
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: the same, but all the other parts of the kinetic chain,
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: he's just older and he's just not gonna develop the velocity.
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's kind of like Peyton Manning that last year.
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: You know, he couldn't throw much more in thirty five
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: or forty yards down the field. He just had to
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: do it with gyle in a great defense. And so
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: so as I said, he completed two of nine passes
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: when the ball was five or more yards from the
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: lion skimmage and when you know, try and if you
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: throw again. I would I would play more zone against
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: him because defenders they can react and they have longer
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: to react. Whereas man to man you don't have to
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: have great velocity. On a lot of man and man plays,
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: you just kind of floated out there and let the
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: receiver go get it. But you can't float it against zone.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: I would. I would want to have as many eyeballs
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: breaking on the ball as I could. So we'll see
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: how teams play against him. But there's a big time
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: drop off in what his velocity was and what it
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: is today.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: That's what I thought, and I just want I want
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: to get your thoughts on that, because I think it's people, Oh,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: you know he could do that. No, there's still a
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: there's still an element of physical you know, nature to
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: throw in the football. Final thing. I got about three
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: or four minutes here, Hugh, and I just want to
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: get this. What is number one? When you're watching tape
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: on Friday or late Thursday night and you're watching the
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: coaches tape? What what do you think the first thing
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: you're gonna go look at will be after the rams
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Sehawks game.
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: Well, first of all, can the defense be that dominant?
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: They held Matthew Stafford to one hundred and thirty yards passing.
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: I don't expect him to be that off his game,
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: but you can you can still beat them if he
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: throws for two thirty. It just depends on you know
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: how the two thirty is right. But you know, I
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: don't know. I don't think he can beat him if
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: he throws for three thirty. But but okay, can the
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: defense be dominant? Obviously the turnover battle? I mean yesterday
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: there was there was no turnovers in the game. There's
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: been four hundred forty six games in the NFL this year,
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: only thirty six of them have had zero turnovers. Every
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: single possession by both the Seahawks and the Colts started
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: off the foot of the opposing kicker or punter, and
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: so can Seattle get a short field somehow, some way
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: get a turnover and avoid the turnovers, And then the
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: offensive line is the biggest pieces. That is the most
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: important thing because if you look at at Sam Donald's
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: four interceptions, three of the four had to do with
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: major pressure early in the down on Donald, and his
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: response to the pressure was poor. But because he threw picks.
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: The fourth one, he had enough time and he misread
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: the coverage, he had a chance to get Jason over
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: on a sale route over to his left. He ends
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: up going to the check down late. But then there
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: was pressure involved in that. But we'll say three of
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: the four interceptions, the pressure from the the ram defenders
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: defensive line was central and key to the breakdown of
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: the quarterback. And so, uh, you know, I'm just crossing
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: my fingers and open that the Seahawks can rise up
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: and have their best game on the offensive line they
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: do that got the inside track to the NFC number
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: one seed.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Jess that whole answer clipped that I'm gonna play it
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: again on Thursday day of the game.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: That sounds like a good one.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Can I do that? Because I won't. I won't have
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: access to you on Thursday, others will, but I want
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: that for Thursday and then Jess is going to talk
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: to you off the here. We got bowl games and
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: times off, so I want to try to get you
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: on Friday if I can you. But yes, the Albrety
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: schedule works out. Do a little hardcore. I just got
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: a text from Keifer. He says, I'll host the show
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: with you.
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: My man's dad, right Keith.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: He said you said some nice things about his basketball
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: career too, so I don't know whatever.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he was the original joker. Man he was.
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: He was joker and dominating a team. My kids going
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: home with sober Okay, Yeah, we'll go get some ice cream. Yeah,
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: after the little junior joker just handed you your ass,
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: we better joker.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: I like that. Yeah, he's got the same elevation game.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: Don't take a DNA test. I know he didn't get
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: it from Pop. Just let let it be you.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Let it be this guy. All right, hey, you're the best.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: I'll talk to him. Thank you, okay, thank you. That
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: is Hugh Miller. Great stuff as always. Will take a break,
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  Speaker 2: mean we we saw you with Piper last night on
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• 32:01
  Speaker 2: talked about it frustrating times. Yeah, it feels like it's
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: a better team than then. Maybe you show in the
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: last ten games or so, what would you what would
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: you kind of put your finger on.
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you said there. I think Lane came in. Obviously,
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: great leadership. We kind of the mentality shifted a little bit. Again,
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: I missed training camp, so I wasn't really around for that.
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  Speaker 6: But the guys seem energized a lot of close games
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: early on. But we were able to finish, you know
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: and get that extra point a lot of overtimes, which
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: you know in the end early on, you know, it's
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: nice to kind of experience and get you know, you
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: know that those close games, you know, being involved in
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: those and coming up on top a handful of them,
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: probably you know, we could have won in regulation just
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: you know, scored late. You know, those teams scoring late
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: but again, you know, it's a long season. You're gonna
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: go through ups and downs. Obviously we're in a down
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: time right now. We're trying to get out of it.
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: We're playing tough teams every night, you know, such a
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: you know, a quick schedule where we're playing every every
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: other day. So he kind of got to forget about
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: it and move on and try to find the things
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: that we're working and try to stick to them, you know.
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: And again, the schedules, the standings are so close. Yeah,
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: we're you know, we're at the top for you know,
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: a bit there and now we're at the bottom. But
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: you know, a couple of wins in a row, we're
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: right back into it. So it's a matter of kind
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: of getting out of this as quickly as you kind
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: of Obviously it's been a tough sled here soon or lately.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: But we got a good group and we got to
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: figure it out. Run them on tour with hiss infness
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: here at the thirty two Bar and grill cracking, community
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: ice plex, cracking tomorrow night, taking on Colorado. They're decent
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: in hockey, I guess these days some pretty good team.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: It's two regulation losses good, I mean my god, what
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: is wrong with those Guy's a wagon? The the Lane
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Lambert world that you're in right now, and you've been
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: here for a couple of years now and two coaches
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: in two years. We know that they're not going to
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: make a change there. They're not gonna do the NHL.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: That's the NHL, like they change coaches like we all
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: changeos every day. That's not gonna happen. He's here. Uh,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: They're not going to make that move. So that probably
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: helps a little bit, doesn't it. Like there's a lot
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: of teams looking over their shoulders. Help Buffalo just fired
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: their GM after beating you guys last night. There's there's
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: teams looking over their shoulders. You know, Lane's the guy,
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: and you know he's gonna be here. What's he like
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: and take us into that room a little bit? Yeah, No,
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: I I believe in Lane.
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: Lane is you know, a great person, but a great
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: coach especially, and he's not accepting losing. You know, he
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: obviously hates losing, and he's obviously not happy with.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: What position we're in.
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: He's not going to accept you know, if we're playing
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: like like you know we have been or you know,
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: he's always trying to fix things. He's trying to make
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: sure we're good to go. He believes in our group.
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: And as you can see, these tight games and and
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: we're playing more structured, more aggressive, and Lane's a big
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: part of that. You know. He preaches you know, all
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: of that, the mentality working hard and if we're not
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: working hard, he's gonna call you out, you know. So
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: it's positive on both sides. As a coach and as
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: you know a person.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: I'll wrap it up this, how are you here? How
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: do you like it? You're your year plus here now?
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: I mean you've kind of settled in a little bit,
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: you and the family. How's Seattle treat you? No, we
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: love it, you know. Obviously this has been a year
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: and a half. Last year was hectic, I tell everyone.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Last year just moving to a new house.
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: We you know, had a baby, new team, new surroundings,
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: new city, everything, new neighborhood. This year came around, you know,
• 35:20
  Speaker 6: we're used to evering. Now everything kind of smooth. We
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: already moved in. We just head right home. The kids
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: are a little older. We got another one coming at
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: the end of the year. Congratulation, thank you. So that'll
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: be hectic. You know, but everything's else is more comfortable.
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: The only thing now is we got to start winning
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: some more hockey games.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: ME ask you real quick, this place, the facility here,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: the organization here. You come from the Stanley Cup champion
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: in Florida, You've been around the league and other teams.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Is this a place that in the future you can
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: see other free agents like yourself coming. Is this a
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: place that has that drawn No.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: For sure.
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: And I think for me again, my experience of being
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: in Seattle, I didn't know much of it. You know,
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: My me coming here was more just having conversations with
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: you know, ownership management and some players and just the
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: experience of being at Climate Pledge and players playing against
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: you know, in the playoffs and stuff like that. So
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: I didn't really get the feel or see what Seattle
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: had to offer, what you know, the east side of
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: like Carocline Bellevue, that that area had to offer, or
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: you know, just driving to the rink on the highway
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: and seeing the mountains most days and being on the water.
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: You know, we would just be kind of middle of
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: the winter, stuck downtown straight to Climate Pledge flight out,
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: you know, so and so the grass and just kind
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: of Everything that Seattle and this area has, you know,
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: the Northwest has to offer, has been really good. I mean,
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: I'm kind of a West coast. My wife's West coast,
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: so she wanted to be West coast and a big thing. Actually,
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: you know, I heard after that Quinn Hughes Trade their
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: GM kind of said, you know, the hockey is kind
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: of you know, no matter where you are, the hockey's
• 36:59
  Speaker 6: got to be good, you know, and and and that's true.
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: You know, at one point when I would go to Florida,
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: we were the same thing. We were in and out.
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: You know, there's five thousand fans there. They weren't a
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: good team. Collect your points and get out, you know,
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: and you start winning hockey games. The whole thing changes,
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: the whole culture changes. It's a place where players.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Want to be.
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: So know, the more interest, the more wins we can collect,
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: the more heat we can get, the more noise. There's
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: gonna be a big reason why we can collect players.
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: And you know, for me, the excitement of just a
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: new organization, a new brand, a new team coming in.
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: You could you could feel the noise just from the
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: outskirts being so far away. That was something I wanted
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: to be a part of. And you know, like I said,
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: the more wins we can collect, the more success we
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: can have. That the easier players are going to want
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: to come play.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate your time. Let's we'll do this again
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: when things are on the uptick too, after Christmas break.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Absolutely all right, that's brandam Montore. We'll take a break.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Mike Sandal talking all things NFL coming up next. All right,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: welcome back in. We're the cracking community Ice Fleck today
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: you internesce with you, Casey I thirty two bar grill.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Let me recommend the soup and sandwich, the tomato bisk
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: with the grilled cheese. Sensational, fantastic. H Jason Boberol joins
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: us right now, tracking general manager. He is here sitting
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: down with me despite his you know, he said no,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: I don't want to do it. My man Chris Brummell
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: brought him over here anyway, So I appreciate you coming by.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: I know the last thing you want to do is
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: talk to me today, but I appreciate you coming.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: I always like talking and all good, no problem at all.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Well, let's get to it. Your evaluation. Great start. A
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: little bit of skid lately there's some injuries, there's some
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: illness and things like that, but kind of eighty two games,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: you're gonna have it ups and downs, and right now
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: in the middle of a little bit of a down
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: or what's your read on.
• 38:49
  Speaker 7: It, You know, I think you're you're dead on over
• 38:52
  Speaker 7: eight two games. You're gonna have ebbs and flows with
• 38:54
  Speaker 7: your team right now. We have to find a way
• 38:57
  Speaker 7: to find solutions to get back to the wing winning record. Here.
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: You look at the last four or five games that
• 39:03
  Speaker 7: I think in if you look at the last ten games,
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: outside of the two Mpton games that were certainly blowouts,
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: you know, the last four or five games are all
• 39:11
  Speaker 7: been games that are one goal in the.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Third period or tied in the third period.
• 39:14
  Speaker 7: And earlier in the year, you go to thinking about
• 39:17
  Speaker 7: Saint Louis Winnipeg, like, we found ways to win games
• 39:20
  Speaker 7: in the third period. Right now we're not finding ways
• 39:22
  Speaker 7: to get that extra goal or protect that lead, and hey,
• 39:25
  Speaker 7: it's hurting us.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: One of the most incredible stats I've seen in a
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: long time. We use it on our broadcast last night
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: on TV, and eighty percent of the time that the
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: cracking had been on the ice this season eighty percent,
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: it's either been a one goal game or a tie game.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: So that tells me if you want to go, let's
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: go glass half full. You're close, Like you're really close,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: And like you just said, it's the margin of victory
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: loss is really raise or thin. So how do you
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: change that?
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: Well, I think you look at the start of the
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: year when we had success, we were still winning a
• 39:57
  Speaker 7: lot of those games in overtime or finding ways in
• 39:59
  Speaker 7: the third period. Here and now it's a situation of, hey,
• 40:02
  Speaker 7: we have a couple of players like Jared mccannon and
• 40:05
  Speaker 7: Schwartz out of the lineup right now, so it gives
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: other guys opportunities to step into those roles and they're
• 40:10
  Speaker 7: going to have to help find ways to capitalize a
• 40:12
  Speaker 7: little bit offensively. I think our team in general has
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: kept their identity, kept their work ethic, kept the strong,
• 40:18
  Speaker 7: solid defensive play. Now it's a matter of getting to
• 40:21
  Speaker 7: the net a little bit more and finding ways to
• 40:23
  Speaker 7: get nut, you know, five or six more goals. But hey,
• 40:25
  Speaker 7: a situation of finding that extra goal or two a game.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Well, just go trade for a fifty goal score. Can't
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: you do that? Very simple?
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: From that standpoint, but we all love that.
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: And it's the situation, as we were talking about before,
• 40:37
  Speaker 7: just you know, teams are resigning their players a lot.
• 40:40
  Speaker 7: The free agent market's fairly thin from that standpoint already
• 40:42
  Speaker 7: looking in the summer. That's what the importance is from
• 40:45
  Speaker 7: a standpoint of continue to develop your players with them
• 40:47
  Speaker 7: within your own organization. And that's what I've really enjoyed
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: with this coaching staff right now. It's disappointing, you know,
• 40:53
  Speaker 7: our results, but you watch practice today, there was an enthusiasm.
• 40:56
  Speaker 7: There was a focus on individual skill development, getting these
• 40:59
  Speaker 7: guys feeling a little bit better about holding on the pucks,
• 41:02
  Speaker 7: creating things offensively. And I like that enthusiasm from our staff.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: I feel like the culture and the vibe is good.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: And when you're you know, one nine and one in
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: that kind of stretch and have seen the you know
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: the nice cushion being about five hundred, get down to
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: a five hundred squad, you can see a lot of
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: different things in sports, right You see a lot of
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: teams and you've been there. You can't go up and
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: down the ebbs and the flows. Just watching like you said,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: practice today, like I didn't see guys pouting. I didn't
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: see lower lips drag and I didn't see that stuff.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: I didn't see a coaching staff undressing guys, which I
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: guess does speak to what Lane's doing right now. I mean,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: there's gonna be these times. That's probably one of the
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: reasons you hired this guy because he's going to know
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: how to handle some diversity well.
• 41:40
  Speaker 7: He knows how to head adversity, knows what it looks
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: like to to have success, and I think that's the
• 41:45
  Speaker 7: key element here is that we did have some success
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: at the start of the year. Our players understand what
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: they have to do to have success out on the
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: ice there, and you know, I think it starts with
• 41:55
  Speaker 7: with Jordan Eberley. He's been a great sort of veteran
• 41:58
  Speaker 7: vocal label leader for us and that locker room. We
• 42:00
  Speaker 7: have a lot of players who have one before have
• 42:02
  Speaker 7: to go through the process to have success. That's what
• 42:05
  Speaker 7: we have to continue to rely on.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Jason Bodrell joining us, crack and GM. Let's I joked
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: about the fifty goal scorer. But you know your office
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: down there, I'm assuming that you're on the phone every day.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: What would you tell fans about what you want to
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: do with this team this year, like would you want
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: to add you want to add something? It's number three.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: I think I haven't looked at today's numbers, but what
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: two or three or four in terms of goals against
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: the league and one of the best of preventing goals
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: obviously scoring, it's at the other end of the spectrum.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: So are you actively trying to get somebody in here
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: to add to that top six forward group?
• 42:38
  Speaker 7: Oh, it's something that we've talked about a lot around here.
• 42:40
  Speaker 7: Is just continuing to trying to add to our group.
• 42:42
  Speaker 7: From a forward perspective, We've said to it, We've we're
• 42:45
  Speaker 7: going to continue to develop our forwards. We've been gone
• 42:48
  Speaker 7: very heavy in the draft on forwards. That's going to
• 42:51
  Speaker 7: be a key element for us. But no, you're always
• 42:54
  Speaker 7: continuing to look at You've seen around the league a
• 42:55
  Speaker 7: few more trades are happening here and there from that perspective,
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: so we are certainly ope. You can never close yourself
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: off and always believe like, oh, we're looking at futures
• 43:03
  Speaker 7: or we're looking at down the road. You're always looking
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: to find different ways to improve your team.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Right now, how hard is it to make a trade
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: in today's NHL Hey.
• 43:11
  Speaker 7: It can be done right. It's a challenging right now
• 43:14
  Speaker 7: because there's so much parody in the league, and that's
• 43:16
  Speaker 7: what makes it the game so exciting, and it's so
• 43:19
  Speaker 7: so challenging when you don't get a game with points,
• 43:21
  Speaker 7: when you when you're losing regulation, it really hurts there's
• 43:24
  Speaker 7: that much parody from that standpoint. But hey, I think
• 43:27
  Speaker 7: you know you've you've saw a few things last weekend
• 43:30
  Speaker 7: or over the weekend from from a trade perspective, they
• 43:32
  Speaker 7: certainly happen out there, and that's why you have to
• 43:34
  Speaker 7: continue to be active.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Did this surprise you the moves that were made? I mean,
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Evidton makes a huge move, Minnesotavanko will make a huge move.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Would did those catches felt like a lot of the
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: this is weird, you're gonna find this strange. Some of
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: the media caught off guard by a couple of those
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: moves that which rarely happens. But sometimes those are the
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: moves that are made right, the ones you don't hear
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: the rumors about.
• 43:50
  Speaker 7: Look, yeah, there was discussions I think through most of
• 43:52
  Speaker 7: the league for some of those players, but the timing
• 43:54
  Speaker 7: of it, whenever it's going to happen now or closer
• 43:56
  Speaker 7: to March. That's always the wild card and those type
• 43:58
  Speaker 7: of things there. But no, I think again, just as
• 44:01
  Speaker 7: we talked about the parody in the league, whenever you
• 44:03
  Speaker 7: have big moves like that, I think it draws a
• 44:05
  Speaker 7: lot of attention to our sport and it's great for
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: the entire industry.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: With you and trying to if you try to get
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: that guy when you're trying to add a top six guy,
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: what do teams want? When you're talking to somebody, you're
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: talking to, here's our guy, Chris Brumwell, let's say Chris
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: is a GM of team you know, Team B out
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: there and you call them, are people wanting your young guys,
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: draft picks players on your roster? How does that like
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: when you hear go?
• 44:28
  Speaker 7: It varies all across the league From that standpoint, that's
• 44:31
  Speaker 7: why you're communicating with the other general matches to get
• 44:33
  Speaker 7: a clear sort of vision on what they're where they're
• 44:36
  Speaker 7: at with their team right now and what they could
• 44:38
  Speaker 7: be looking for. And you're trying to find that match.
• 44:40
  Speaker 7: And at the end of the day, you're not going
• 44:41
  Speaker 7: to have a match with all thirty one other teams,
• 44:44
  Speaker 7: So you're trying to narrow one on the teams that
• 44:46
  Speaker 7: hey might be looking for a player that we have,
• 44:49
  Speaker 7: or hey, some of our futures that may work and stuff.
• 44:51
  Speaker 7: So that's why you're communicating so much by other teams,
• 44:54
  Speaker 7: is just to sort of see where they are in
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: their cycle.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Are you in a better situation now in year five
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: than you were the previous four years in the sense
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: that before there wasn't much of a talent pool. Now
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: you've got the full fifty man, you got all that
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: you got Coachella Valley. Is this a stronger position to
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: come from if you do want to do something because
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: you do have young guys in the system, whether they're
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: in Coachella or they're still in juniors or Europe wherever
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: it might be.
• 45:15
  Speaker 7: Oh, it's it's why you know, you've always seen a
• 45:19
  Speaker 7: player like Oscar Moulguard. We see a player like Malwson
• 45:22
  Speaker 7: come up, a player like Winterton who has been our team.
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: Like these young players are no longer just in junior
• 45:26
  Speaker 7: in college. They're in our in Coachella Valley, ready to
• 45:30
  Speaker 7: help our our team in Seattle here now whenever sort
• 45:33
  Speaker 7: of called upon. So just having them that further along
• 45:36
  Speaker 7: in there, uh sort of growth period is certainly very helpful,
• 45:39
  Speaker 7: and it takes time, right you look, you know, Ryan
• 45:41
  Speaker 7: Winterton was in our first draft, so it takes time
• 45:44
  Speaker 7: for these players to get up from here. But you know,
• 45:46
  Speaker 7: you look at the prospect pool, we have the future
• 45:50
  Speaker 7: draft picks that we have in place through from different trades.
• 45:53
  Speaker 7: When we feel we're we're poised to do something down
• 45:56
  Speaker 7: the road.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Here Shane Wright, it feels like we had saw a
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: really strong end of the year last year and he
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: struggled offensively this year. There's no way to sugarcoat he
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: struggled offensively. In other parts of his game, maybe not
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: as much, but he has struggled offensively. What can Shane do?
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: What does he need to do to take that next step?
• 46:12
  Speaker 7: Well, I think what you saw last night was an
• 46:14
  Speaker 7: indicative of a little bit of a season, right you saw.
• 46:16
  Speaker 7: I thought he skated extremely well out there was good
• 46:19
  Speaker 7: on the for check, good stick, especially at then the
• 46:22
  Speaker 7: first period. I believe it was a great rebound opportunity.
• 46:24
  Speaker 7: Most of the times those go in for someone like Shane.
• 46:27
  Speaker 7: But what I liked about that situation was he was
• 46:30
  Speaker 7: in and around the net, you know, creating chances there.
• 46:32
  Speaker 7: And I think that's just sort of a common theme
• 46:34
  Speaker 7: with our team continuing to get to net to try
• 46:36
  Speaker 7: to create chances there.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: You've had a hell of a run by the guy's
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: and goal so far this season. I mean we sat here,
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: I think training camp, and you said, Joey's our number one.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: No doubt, Joey's are number one. Phil Grubauer, though, has
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: had a bounce back season. I'll let you riff on
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: him a little bit because I mean, it's been fun
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: to see. I know it was a struggle for him
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: last year. Big struggle for him last year, maybe the
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: last couple of years. But watching Phil Grubauer this year
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: and we'll see if he gets a start against his
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: former team tomorrow. Boy, what a bounce back year he's had.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: And it's that's got to be great to see.
• 47:03
  Speaker 7: What we've talked about before. Three goalies is not the
• 47:06
  Speaker 7: easiest thing to handle, and I think our coaching staff
• 47:08
  Speaker 7: has done a good job. Managamal and I give our
• 47:11
  Speaker 7: goalies a lot of credit for staying ready. It can
• 47:14
  Speaker 7: be a manager like myself or a coach can say, hey,
• 47:16
  Speaker 7: always be ready. They've been really dialed in, working extremely
• 47:19
  Speaker 7: hard in practice, even when they haven't been getting a
• 47:21
  Speaker 7: lot of starts, and no, I feel in most nights
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: are our Goaltenate has given us an opportunity, given us
• 47:27
  Speaker 7: a chance to win, the same thing as last night's
• 47:30
  Speaker 7: disappointed is not getting the victory. You know, Joey gave
• 47:33
  Speaker 7: us a chance to win, and now it's up to
• 47:35
  Speaker 7: us to find a way to get a couple more
• 47:37
  Speaker 7: goals there.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's about it along the way? Is there
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: competition there? I mean, like in a lot of sports,
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: you'll see, hey, like, we're gonna open You're to open
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: it up for competition, and sometimes coaches say that and
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: you're like, okay, right, it doesn't you're saying that, But
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: there is no competition? Is there kind of a competition?
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: And Matt's almost back I seem skating out there again today?
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Is is there a competition among those three guys? Is
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Lane say, hey, whoever's the hot hand? We might start
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: going with a little bit.
• 48:00
  Speaker 7: Well, I think it's a situation where look, we've always
• 48:02
  Speaker 7: said that Joey's are number one, and for the most
• 48:04
  Speaker 7: part this year, he's done a great job. From that standpoint,
• 48:07
  Speaker 7: we also know, you just look at our schedule leading
• 48:09
  Speaker 7: up to Christmas here and then seventeen games in January.
• 48:12
  Speaker 7: Just like it happened with Matt, the injuries, unfortunately, are
• 48:14
  Speaker 7: going to present itself. So we understand that we're going
• 48:18
  Speaker 7: to utilize all three goalies. So when you talk about competition, yeah,
• 48:21
  Speaker 7: we're just gonna have to utilize them. There's just no
• 48:23
  Speaker 7: way you can just rely on one player to sort
• 48:25
  Speaker 7: of carry the entire load this year and then the
• 48:27
  Speaker 7: condemed schedule. So it's something that there's competition because we
• 48:31
  Speaker 7: know we have to utilize all and make sure we
• 48:33
  Speaker 7: get these guys sharp for for every game.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a few teams you use already four or
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: five guys in goal, which is which is crazy. Jason
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: Bodwil joining us before we let you go talk about
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: some of the young guys for a second. Let's get
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: to some of the young guys. And you know, I
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: know again fans want to see goals, they want to
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: we all want to see that happen. But there are
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: some good young players and we're going to see some
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: of those guys in the World Junior Championships. And though still
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: new to hockey, I know a lot of the If
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: you're a Silver Tip fan or a t bird fan listening.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: You know what World Juniors are your best players, leave
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: you for a couple of weeks and then go play.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: It's the under twenty tournament for hockey worldwide. It's a
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: huge deal, especially in Canada and now becoming more and
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: more so in the States and in Europe as well.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: It's in Minnesota, believe this year.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: And and you've got a bunch of guys in your system,
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: drafted players playing in that right.
• 49:16
  Speaker 7: No, it's a we have a couple of fins going
• 49:19
  Speaker 7: this year. We have Fiddler our defense been playing for
• 49:23
  Speaker 7: Team USA, O'Brien, j O'Brien playing for Team Canada. Uh
• 49:27
  Speaker 7: Lok our Swedish seventh round pick from pat last years
• 49:32
  Speaker 7: with the team and stuff too. They're still all going
• 49:34
  Speaker 7: through sort of the the tryout phase right now. Some
• 49:37
  Speaker 7: of these teams still have to make a couple different
• 49:39
  Speaker 7: cuts here, so we'll see how it all transpires the
• 49:41
  Speaker 7: next ten days here and so. But no, it's an
• 49:43
  Speaker 7: exciting tournament. It's an elite competition. Obviously a lot of
• 49:48
  Speaker 7: you know, pride representing your nation, but just the pace
• 49:52
  Speaker 7: of play, the energy in a short tournament, it's it's
• 49:54
  Speaker 7: fun to watch the best on best for sure.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: What does that do for young guy too, like in
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: terms of preparing them for this level.
• 50:00
  Speaker 7: Look, you you want players to have success. You want
• 50:02
  Speaker 7: players to come from one winning environment. It's what we've
• 50:04
  Speaker 7: especially you look at a guy like Julius Manton and
• 50:06
  Speaker 7: up in Everett right now, they're having a great season.
• 50:09
  Speaker 7: You want these players to be a part of winning environments.
• 50:12
  Speaker 7: Jacobrian's with Brantford. They're one of the top teams in
• 50:14
  Speaker 7: the HL this year and stuff too. You want these
• 50:16
  Speaker 7: kids to you know, have success and know what it
• 50:19
  Speaker 7: takes to you know, you know, win close games, win championships,
• 50:23
  Speaker 7: and to be in a world junior situation here playing
• 50:26
  Speaker 7: against top players, you know, a faster pace, maybe playing
• 50:30
  Speaker 7: a little bit.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: Of different role.
• 50:31
  Speaker 7: It's it's the closest it can sort of mimic to
• 50:34
  Speaker 7: being in pro hockey and stuff. So it's a great
• 50:36
  Speaker 7: evaluation for our players.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: But the thought all along, I think for many of us,
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: was that Berkeley Catton was going to be playing for
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: Team Canada. And I'm sure Team Canada thought Berkeley Catton
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: was going to be playing for him them as well,
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: and not just playing for them, probably on the top line.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: H he makes your roster and has it seems like
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: before he got hurt, every game was getting better and
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: better and better, getting top six minutes. I'm assuming at
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: some point that is decision was made before the injury. Hey,
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: you're a Seattle cracking right now. I mean you had
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: your chance at the World Juniors last year. He's here, right,
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: I mean healthy or not, this kid's here. No.
• 51:08
  Speaker 7: And We've continued to look at Berkeley week by week
• 51:11
  Speaker 7: just from an evaluation standpoint to see what's best for
• 51:13
  Speaker 7: his development. And I've loved his tenacity. I love I've
• 51:16
  Speaker 7: loved his work ethic. You look at him out there,
• 51:19
  Speaker 7: like he hasn't shown any hesitation out there. He's gone
• 51:21
  Speaker 7: into battles, he's won a lot of battles. When he's
• 51:23
  Speaker 7: gotten knocked down, he's got up right away again there.
• 51:25
  Speaker 7: And to me, he's such a sponge with our coaching staff,
• 51:28
  Speaker 7: learning things, interacting with our veteran players. You know, I'm
• 51:32
  Speaker 7: surprised he still hasn't scored an HL goal, especially seen
• 51:35
  Speaker 7: as you know it took him what one shift to
• 51:37
  Speaker 7: get his first NHL point, which was amazing. Like it's
• 51:40
  Speaker 7: just it is coming though, and we love seeing the
• 51:42
  Speaker 7: development here.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: What it happens. Do you think that'll take a little
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: weight off his shoulders?
• 51:46
  Speaker 7: It always does, right, no matter how confident you are
• 51:49
  Speaker 7: and how much improvement you see. Hey, you want to
• 51:52
  Speaker 7: get that first one sort of out of the way
• 51:53
  Speaker 7: and go on from there. But no, to me, he's
• 51:56
  Speaker 7: put himself in the right position. He's getting the opportunities
• 51:59
  Speaker 7: from that standpoint. And the biggest thing is just his
• 52:01
  Speaker 7: hockey mind. He is a great hockey mind. He sees
• 52:04
  Speaker 7: things on the ice.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: He's such a.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: Quick learner and doesn't make that same mistake twice.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: And I do believe he got hurt blocking a shot,
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: which a lot of times highly skilled guys like that.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure how many shots he was blocking in
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: Spokane in the Western League, but I mean, he knows
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: he's paying the price. Lane's got him playing the right way.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: He did that. Hopefully we'll see him back in the
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: line pettle soon and I'll just wrap it up with that.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Jane Schwartz is maybe the most underrated player this NHL
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: has right now. I mean, and his importance to your
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: team is we see it every night now without him
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: out there. Yep. Jared mccannon as well, huge huge absences
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: right now with those two guys specifically, how close are
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: they to coming back? And when I ask you about
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: all these things about can you add top six guys
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: and all that, how much of it is just kind
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: of like making sure you kind of stay steady where
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: you are because when you get those guys back, that's
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: like two massive roster editions as well.
• 52:52
  Speaker 7: There are two massive roster editions, and there's still gonna
• 52:54
  Speaker 7: be a little bit of time before coming back from
• 52:55
  Speaker 7: that standpoint, but you know, they just they add so
• 52:59
  Speaker 7: much depth, areization and to our team. You know, whenever
• 53:02
  Speaker 7: you have those two guys in the lineup, they create
• 53:04
  Speaker 7: so much out there. They both in play, power play,
• 53:06
  Speaker 7: penalty killing, even strength. You know, Jaden's a you know,
• 53:10
  Speaker 7: we're a team that needs to improve on our NetFront presence.
• 53:12
  Speaker 7: He's one of our best there. He's always in and
• 53:14
  Speaker 7: around the crease, creating havoc out there. You know, McCann's
• 53:17
  Speaker 7: a player that you saw it in the game before
• 53:20
  Speaker 7: last week against LA before he left with an injury,
• 53:22
  Speaker 7: like he can beat it goalie cleanly. He's got that
• 53:25
  Speaker 7: hard of a shot from that standpoint, So we certainly
• 53:27
  Speaker 7: miss it, but put other people in those opportunities, and
• 53:32
  Speaker 7: we need some of our younger players and our other
• 53:33
  Speaker 7: players to step up. And you know, when we get
• 53:36
  Speaker 7: those players back, they'll certainly help us outtle lot.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: Big stretch coming up before Christmas break. Nice thing the
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: NHL does, though, They do shut down during the Christmas break,
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: which is kind of good for a few days. So
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: they do do that. But how important are these next
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: five games?
• 53:48
  Speaker 7: Well, look, it's gonna be a it's gonna be a
• 53:51
  Speaker 7: real challenge against Colorado. Obviously, they're the best team in
• 53:53
  Speaker 7: the league right now by a long shot. And you
• 53:56
  Speaker 7: talk about parody, they're the one exception stuff for sure,
• 53:58
  Speaker 7: So it will be a challenge there. And then look,
• 54:00
  Speaker 7: we have to I think in our first road trip
• 54:03
  Speaker 7: out east. You know, Lane brought a road warrior mentality.
• 54:07
  Speaker 7: That's what we'll have to do for the four game
• 54:09
  Speaker 7: road trip as we go up to Calgary and then
• 54:11
  Speaker 7: down to California there. So it's going to be imperative
• 54:13
  Speaker 7: that we find ways to continue to improve our special teams,
• 54:16
  Speaker 7: continue to find in a little extra goal out there,
• 54:19
  Speaker 7: and to have success.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: You're leading to Christmas, Appreciate the time go back and
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: make that deal for one of those fifty goal guys
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: that seems to be out there on the market.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: I think they're all there, right exactly. Happy holidays.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: There you go. That's Jason Watroll. We will take a break,
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: come back and check it with Softy next. Already then already, then,
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: how was La? How'd you like so far?
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: That place is huge?
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: It's amazing huge. I think it's yeah, it is, it's huge.
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you what.
• 55:02
  Speaker 8: When you first pull up to it, I know you've
• 55:04
  Speaker 8: been there a couple of times, right, Yeah, when you
• 55:06
  Speaker 8: first pull up to it, yeah, uh, it looks like
• 55:09
  Speaker 8: something that is planning on taking over the world, Like
• 55:13
  Speaker 8: what is that?
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 55:14
  Speaker 8: Something out of Independence Day? Honestly, it's like did that
• 55:18
  Speaker 8: thing come from the heavens?
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: For God's sake?
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: It is so massive? Oh we Uh. The first time
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: I was in it was for the you'll remember this,
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: remember the infamous Tuesday night football game?
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I do.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: That was it. That was it. They played the Rams
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: in the seauxity, which was thinking back, how garbage that was,
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: by the way, because then they moved that game because
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: the Rams had a few guys that were sick. Uh,
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: put all you know whatever. But we go there for
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: Tuesday and it's like Climate plays for people haven't been there.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: You walk in the main.
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: Entrance, yeah, and it goes down.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: You look up and you're like, wait, the roofs what?
• 55:58
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's the it's the grain of NFL stadiums that
• 56:01
  Speaker 8: I actually was thinking the same thing as we're sitting
• 56:03
  Speaker 8: there in our broadcast booth before the game. It was like,
• 56:05
  Speaker 8: you know what, I'm gonna look up how deep this
• 56:06
  Speaker 8: thing is, and I'm going to compare it to CPA.
• 56:08
  Speaker 8: So I found out that when they when they dug
• 56:11
  Speaker 8: out CPA, they went about fifty three feet lower than
• 56:14
  Speaker 8: they had been before when they dug out so far,
• 56:18
  Speaker 8: it's almost one hundred feet.
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: So you're literally looking.
• 56:21
  Speaker 8: At twice the hole that you look at when you're
• 56:23
  Speaker 8: looking up or down from like Everett's booth, that Climate
• 56:27
  Speaker 8: Pledge Arena or your your booth or whatever your spot
• 56:31
  Speaker 8: for TV's it's it's twice as.
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: Big a hole. Unbelievable.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: Man, It's insane.
• 56:36
  Speaker 8: But I'm pretty damn well convinced they were pumping in
• 56:38
  Speaker 8: crowd noise by the way, for that game on Saturday night,
• 56:40
  Speaker 8: because I was on the sideline for the entire game,
• 56:42
  Speaker 8: and the amount of crowd noise in that stadium was
• 56:44
  Speaker 8: not reflective of the attendance at all.
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: Was it not at all?
• 56:48
  Speaker 8: I don't even know what it was they announced twenty
• 56:50
  Speaker 8: change whatever, but I mean, you got you probably could
• 56:53
  Speaker 8: have taken everybody in that building and put the entire
• 56:56
  Speaker 8: crowd in the lower bowl and had room left over.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: Man, when people say, like, which stadiums in the NFL,
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: you know, would you recommend somebody to go to, and
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: Bramble obviously is number one. I think Jerry's World is
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: worth going to.
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: See as well.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: In Dallas. That's awesome. Uh, I honestly, I think and
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: I heard Petro was just kill the place. I think
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: Soul fly when it's full for an NFL game, Yep,
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: it's pretty it's pretty cool.
• 57:18
  Speaker 8: Well I've never I've never seen it full, so I
• 57:20
  Speaker 8: can't confirm or deny, but uh again, uh, it's it's
• 57:24
  Speaker 8: pretty impressive as far as the architecture and how big
• 57:27
  Speaker 8: the damn thing is. And then you go outside and
• 57:29
  Speaker 8: you see the forum sitting there.
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that thing.
• 57:32
  Speaker 8: That thing looks like a freaking pimple on a cow's ass. Man,
• 57:35
  Speaker 8: it's unbelievable. How small that thing is. True, just so fine.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: So that place was the mecca. I was there, Mecca.
• 57:43
  Speaker 8: I was there for a Lakers playoff series way back
• 57:46
  Speaker 8: in the day. Yeah, man, so.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: Talk about the history of that building.
• 57:49
  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, oh yeah, Well they still have they still
• 57:52
  Speaker 8: have shows and concerts and all kinds of stuff there.
• 57:55
  Speaker 8: But anyway, yeah, it was fun to be there, funner
• 57:57
  Speaker 8: to get back home, to be honest with you, funner
• 58:00
  Speaker 8: after yesterday. No, I was exhausted. I got home at
• 58:04
  Speaker 8: five in the morning yesterday.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: Well, probably were thanking yourself all day long after that game.
• 58:09
  Speaker 8: Well, you know, look, I mean I think I think
• 58:11
  Speaker 8: two things. I think you're right number one and number two.
• 58:14
  Speaker 8: It would have been fun to see grandpa actually play football.
• 58:18
  Speaker 8: I'm trying to think of the last grandfather, maybe George
• 58:21
  Speaker 8: Blanda back in the day. I don't have any idea,
• 58:23
  Speaker 8: but that would have been cool to see that guy
• 58:25
  Speaker 8: play in person. But you know what, look, man, I mean,
• 58:28
  Speaker 8: good for him, Good for him, get a freaking win.
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: I don't give a damn what you look like. At
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: this point of the year.
• 58:33
  Speaker 8: The Hawks probably are what they are, you know, are
• 58:36
  Speaker 8: they as good as their offensive scoring average says they
• 58:39
  Speaker 8: are probably not.
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: But I think we've all learned one thing.
• 58:42
  Speaker 8: Man, this football team is going to go as far
• 58:44
  Speaker 8: as their defense takes them, period, end of story.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: Well, like I'm assuming Heugh was coming on with you, yes.
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: Four o'clock a little more four right.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: Like we were talking earlier, It's like, it's not college football.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if you win with style points or not.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: They just tek one thing, right, what does the win say? Yeah,
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: get the hell out of there, even if it's eighteen
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: points from Jason Myersers that's right, you know, and that's
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: the way you go.
• 59:05
  Speaker 8: And let's face it, I mean, the the problems they
• 59:07
  Speaker 8: have running the ball that have been there all year long,
• 59:09
  Speaker 8: they're probably gonna be there in the playoffs too.
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: They gotta find a way to overcome it. Right, So
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: we'll see.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: There might have been a little looking ahead. I mean, hell,
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: look at the Rams rounds were down to the Lions. Mon.
• 59:19
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but the Lions. The Lions are I think the
• 59:21
  Speaker 8: Lions are pretty damn good football.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: They're a little better than Indianapolis and Grandpa, there's no doubt.
• 59:25
  Speaker 8: All right, coming up, let's see here, will join us,
• 59:27
  Speaker 8: of course, at four o'clock, Little fun with Autio with
• 59:29
  Speaker 8: three forty five, and then a classic eighties matchup of
• 59:32
  Speaker 8: the Dolphins in Pittsburgh coming up on Monday night Football
• 59:36
  Speaker 8: Tonight where it's currently sixteen degrees in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, by
• 59:40
  Speaker 8: the way, so looking forward to.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: If they were wise, what they should have done for
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: that game is in tribute to Philip Rivers had had
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: to make it. Bradshaw against this greasy still with us?
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: It's probably not.
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: Any I think Bob's no longer with us.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how about how about Roethlisberger versus Marino?
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: There you go, that works for me? Yeah, David David Woodley?
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: Why not?
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 8: What the hell im for the mild mannered and marginally
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 8: objectionable e Inverness.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: This is Paddled Day saying so long everyone