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Reactions to the WCF/ECF so far; Plus Live Reaction to Game 4 of Wolves v Mavs! · The So-Called Sports Analysts

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Welcome, Welcome, welcome, welcome, Welcome back to episode number forty nine
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of the so called sports tannelist. Josh, how you doing? What a
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wonderful day? Out of out of all the ways to start off, I
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did not expect that right there. I'm not gonna lie. We're on We're
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on the Kingdom of the Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes right now.
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You know, just watched it on Sunday. Pretty good movie, you know,
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and Caeasar we remember, Yeah, shout out, shout out to what's
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his name? I can't think of the ringting's name? Oh uh, Hawka.
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Yeah, well it's with the k but shoutout, shout out to him.
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But no, okay, before we start you guys, what how don't
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wait, let's before we start this pause the time pause. Yeah, before
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we start this episode, what what's a ringuting's name? Raka? That's his
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name? Raka said? Yeah, Well you were close. You were close.
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Josh. So, the last time we talked it was before the conference final
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series, and we're gonna jump into the Celtics and Pacer series first. So
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just overall, this series, it's a rap. It was a sweet How
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did you feel about this one? Right here? I know Tyres he didn't
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play in the last two games, but how'd you feel? I feel like
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this is a cake walk to the to get to the championship for the Boston
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Celtics. That's what I feel like it is for the most part. I
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understand, you get the one seed for a reason. You play for the
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one seed for a reason. But the way they're getting there, even though
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having the one seed shouldn't guarantee you this road like you play the first round,
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no Jimmy Buckets, second round. Donovan Mitchell doesn't play some of the
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games and Jared Allen's out most of the most of the series, all the
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series pretty much, and then this one tyree smiss is. The last two
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games, I don't know, and and the Pacers were pretty close in each
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game. The Pacers probably should have won three games if we're really being honest
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here. They were up late in the fourth quarter three times in this series
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and just couldn't finish the job. And that comes with experience, that comes
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with having a closer like Jason Tatum and Jelen Brown on your team who can
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take the ball to make big plays. All that. But I will give
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it to the Celtics, the number one team in the East for a reason.
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They dominated this road to the playoffs, just rolled through the playoffs so
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far, and now they're in the championship, so it can be too mad
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at it rich. Also, I would like to see them have played teams
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at full strength so we can see what we're really dealing with. Yeah,
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we would like to see them at full strength all these teams. I still
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think they would have won all three of these series, but potentially closer.
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But I think this is why you get the one seed and you get to
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play the lesser of the competition. I know, you don't face injuries or
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you're not supposed to face injuries, but it's just part of it whoever stays
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healthy. But yeah, as far as the Pacers, Game one, five
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point lead, a minute forty three left, just that whole debacle right there,
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they had the ball twenty nine seconds left, Tyree's turned the ball over,
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not fouling Jalen Brown, and then even going into overtime still having a
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chance. Game three eight point lead, two thirty eight left, Game four,
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four point lead with three thirty three left, and the Pacers they lost
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all three. So this sounds crazy, but it was a close suite kind
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of like what we're seeing right now in this game right here the Mavericks and
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Timberwolves, which we're going to talk about in a second because we're live reacting
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to this game, which we'll get to, but it's it was a close
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sweep. And one thing I want to say is that I hope the Pacers
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they don't run this team back right here, Josh. And it may be
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questioning or you might wonder why they made it to the Eastern Conference finals,
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but this team won't be good enough next year to reach the conference finals because
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the Knicks. They're going to find another star. The Bucks. I'm pretty
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sure they're going to be healthy, the heat, they're going to be there.
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Then you always have the Celtics, the Magic. They're going to be
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better the Cavs potentially. So I know you have Tyree's Pascal Siakam, but
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you can't get stagnant. You can't get stagnant. You have to make another
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move, potentially bringing back Paul George because you needed another shot creator in this
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series. It was. It was really showing because as much as you want
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Aarony Smith or Andrew Nimhard to get you clutch buckets, you need you need
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another shot creator. So maybe Paul George. I don't know how you feel
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about that. I feel like you should blow it up Trey Tyresis first,
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you build the Indiana Pacers from the ground up. Maybe Trey Miles Turner along
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with him. I don't know it would it would. There's just a suggestion,
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just a suggestion, just a suggestion. That's my that's my GM expertise
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right there. What I would do, That's what I would do if I
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were the Indiana Pacers. Bring in draft picks, start from the bottom,
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draft a superstar like Nikola Topicch and keep it moving. You know, That's
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what I would do. Yeah, But what they're gonna do in real life,
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which is the wrong decision, is they do need another another shooter.
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They need another person to come in take pressure off, especially in situations just
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like what happened in this yar Tyree's goes down, your number one option,
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your facilitator. I need another guy that's gonna step up and drop some boockets.
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I get Pascosiyakam played great in the series, and I'm not taking nothing.
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He played amazingly like for what he was given and what he would have
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to do. But you need someone else in the in the today's NBA to
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keep up shooting. We saw it with the Knicks when they we saw it
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with the Knicks. They tried doing the Jalen Brunson things and it just didn't
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work out because you can't just live like that. You can't live just one
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guy throughout the one guy facilitating in your entire offense. And for them,
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it's a lot like the same way with Tyre's halliburn I understand he's not as
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dominant of a scorer, but he has the ball in his hands a lot,
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and you need someone else to take that pressure off. And understand,
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even when he went down, every other guy stepped up. They really couldn't
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have done anything more to compete with the Boston Celtics without a Tyre's Haliburn.
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It was good basketball to watch watching those games, very fun to watch up
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until the end. They were up on them at eighteen at one point,
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the Boston Celtics with pascosiaka Aaron Nesmith and the only Miles Turner, so they
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have the pieces around. It's just a matter of getting one more guy,
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maybe bringing back of Paul George a reunion Pg. Thirteen, all that back
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to Indiana to secure the deal. I don't know. I don't think that
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even puts them close to being a championship team. But it does take pressure
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off with Tyre's Aliburton. Yeah, it definitely does. And one thing before
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I get onto the Celtics front right here, so Tyre's Halliburton, I have
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a question for you. Is he becoming a top five point guard? Now?
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I know he was on that fringe. I know this is just off
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the cusp right here, So is he reaching that top five category? Jalen
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Brunson, Wait, would you say, did you say Luca SJ Brunson?
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Yeah, okay, Steph, Yes, yes, Steph. I was about
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to say, what would you have rather have? Kyrie or Steph? Right
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now? Steph, Steph Curry? Are you serious? No? Yeah,
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you're right, Steph. I don't know. I just feel like I think
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I'm just doing the recency thing, where like, yeah, he hasn't really
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gone deep guy, Steph, Steph Curry. He just what a championship in
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two him were Anthony Edwards. But Anthony Edwards isn't a point guard. He
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plays, he has the ball ninety percent of the time. Yeah, but
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that does Mike Conley is the point guard of that team. I guess.
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So fine, So then you'd have to say Lebron's a point guard. Then
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I think Lebron should be labeled a point guard. Okay, okay, so
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Lebron. No, he's not top five. I'm just kidding. I guess,
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okay, from a base, from a level headed point guard standpoint,
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he's arguably top five. Mm hm, he's I'm not saying top five,
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but he's arguably top five. Yeah, like and not like four five Yeah
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yeah, yeah, I get you, I get you. I think there's
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gonna just be unrealistic expectations for the Pacers next year, they're gonna say,
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okay, well, we have to make the conference finals again. We have
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a young team, we're gonna re sign Pascal Siakam. But it's not gonna
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happen. More likely than not. I'm sorry. I hate to break it
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to any Pacers fans that listen to this podcast, but it's not gonna happen,
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no way in hell, because the East is gonna just get better.
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And knowing most teams that overachieve in the Eastern Conference, at least they say,
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okay, well we could just run it back and we'll be perfectly fine.
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And I'm not saying they're that Atlanta Hawks, but that Atlanta Hawks did
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exactly that. They just stayed complacent and look where it got them. But
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as far as with the Celtics front, right here, I know you said
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it was one of the I know, I know I'm cutting you off,
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younger, Tyrese. So are you taking Tyree Halliburton? Oh, that's that's
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a conversation right there. Yeah, because we're gonn that's a conversation. Top
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five. I don't even dejontey, I don't know. I don't know.
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I'm taking from a defensive standpoint, and he's able to pass and rebound higher
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than both of those guys I don't know. Dejonte Yeah oo, so man,
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that's tough. That's that's that's a three way conversation right there. Okay,
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If if I had had to list it, I would say Dejonte,
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Tyrese, Trey Young. I'll take that. I think Tyres is better defensively
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than Trey Young, but Trey Young's offensive game is so lethal. I will
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give him that, Like he's one of the I'll say this off players in
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the NBA. I'll say this, Tyres, he may not score as much
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as Trey Young, but he has as much of an offensive impact or even
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more than dejontey or Trey Young, because he could end up with eighteen points,
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but he has fifteen sixteen assists in a ball game. Jonte Averager triple
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double. Wait, who John? You think so like I think if he
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Okay, no, he could get like I think like two eight and like
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six, like seven on a night. I think he can do that in
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a year for sure. Yeah. No, and then his defense and then
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his defense. Yeah, that's the biggest factor for me. As far as
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de Jonte is his defense, because he's one of the best perimeter defenders in
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the league. But yeah, no, as far as the Celtics, I
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know he said this is one of the easiest runs in finals or going to
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the finals by any team in NBA history. But have you been impressed by
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the Celtics? Oh, let me see. Oh reverse dunk? That was
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really cool. That that was that was pretty nice. Yeah, I'm sorry,
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repeat your question. I got distracted by Daniel Gaffery. No, no,
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no, you're not good. But as far as with the Celtics,
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as far as what they're run, have you been impressed by it so far?
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I know it's been one of the weaker but them them being in certain
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challenges where they had to step up, overcoming an eighteen point lead or losing
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a couple games at home, being undefeated on the road, has that done
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anything to change your opinion about the Celtics because they could only play who's in
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front of them. No, my opinion hasn't changed. And I will say
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this because they're here every year, they're in this position every single season,
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they're in the conference finals, every single season, they've been to a championship.
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It doesn't matter to me until you win that ring. It doesn't matter
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to me to the standpoint already. For the Boston Celtics, it's like the
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forty nine ers in Boston Celtics are parallels of each other. Okay, that's
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a good comparison and different in both. In both like sport wise, they're
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the parrison because they both get there every single year. Conference finals, conference
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championships, Super Bowls, NBA Championships. Haven't got the job done. I
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don't care what you do leading up anymore, as long as until you win
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that ring, then I will say I respect what you did with the road
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to get there. You got through it, you won, you won against
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a good team in the championship, then I will say it because I expect
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you to beat these teams. You're the number one seed in the entire NBA.
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You won over sixty games. You you have one of the best rosters
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from top to bottom besides interior. But Christops, I hope may come back
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for the championship. So they're gonna have a big boost there if especially offensively
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they are. Yeah, so I want to see, Yeah, you're supposed
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to beat the Pacers. I get you came down from eighteen with you withheld
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and finish out the games in against the Pacers. But let's be fair,
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they weren't playing with no superstars out there. They were just a good team,
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and you have to be stars on your side. You I just think
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you're dominate. You didn't dominate them, so to be impressed by them while
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I am not. And once they win the championship, that's when I will
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be impressed. Okay, I could see that. So you're more just prove
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it, prove it first and then okay ooh ooh okay. Yeah, So
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we're going to take a little bit of a break from from as far as
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our analysis right now, we're going to be live raggingto this game because it's
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the last two minutes of the Minnesota Timberwolves Dallas Mavericks. Oh okay, so
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the score it's one hundred and ninety two right now a minute thirty eight.
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So the or the maverage could potentially have this series going back to Minnesota rules
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so much. Bro, it's it's part of it. That's a d way
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type of foul. Yeah, but it's like you can't do nothing there for
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the Anthony Edwards. The Anthony Edwards pivots spin that was already that was nice.
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I swear if the Timbers find a way to lose. Oh, Carl
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Anthony Town's fouled out. Oh, I didn't even think about that because he
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had five fouls. What DOESNA come back in? Do you put back in
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nas or Kyle Anderson? No, I feel like you gotta put nas in.
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Oh no, they haven't. Kyle Anderson, Yeah, I'm cool with
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that's first legend slow you know it's it's a defensive move. Yeah, but
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no on offense, Kyle Anderson, He's not a liability on offensese not He's
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a perfectly okay. So Luca, he's made the first two free throws,
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Okay, so if he makes this next one, it's five points in a
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minute thirty eight. You have about three to four, maybe five possessions left
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in the ball game. That ain't nothing to Kyrie or Luca. They just
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they just got to get stop. Dang Luke Adantics just tied for ninth overall.
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As far as most triple doubles in the playoffs, that's crazy. He's
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barely twenty five years old. Okay, let's see. I'm gonna give my
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analysis as far as the whole series in a second. But okay, no
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way, they got to stop. Okay, Oh Luca mismatch, okay,
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Oh my goodness, Rudy, O my god, Derek PJ. Washington,
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Oh terrible, Kyrie, Oh my goodness, Krim he's not missing that?
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Or why am I clapping for the Mavericks? Damn? That's too easy?
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Okay, minute two down, three man. This is where the Minnesota Timber
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will struggle though, in half court offense, where you need a bucket.
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If if Anthony Edwards isn't making a jump shot, it's nothing. That's what
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it is. Right now. I cannot check right now, but I will
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check in a second, big big shot, big shot shot that's not only
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a two. Oh that's nice. Oh that's nice. That's nice. Ant
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But see that's I know he made the bucket. But that's what concerns me.
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If it's not Anthony Edwards making a jump shot, you have no late
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game offensive execution. He's been he's been trying to get into the interior a
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lot tonight too, Like he's trying to draw fouls, trying to like he's
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trying to do something. But you need someone else, Yeah, you you
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need somebody else. Or he needs to become a better facilitator out well,
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I guess we would go ahead and talk about this. What's on commercial break
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right now. So with these first three games from the series, it's really
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just come down to Luka Doncic and Kyrie Irving is a better closing duo than
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Anthony Edwards or Mike Conley or Carl Anthony Towns by a wide margin. I
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mean, there's a better closing duo in the NBA if we're being honest.
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You know what this series kind of reminds me of. It reminds me of
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the Denver Nuggets in the Lakers series. No matter what the Lakers did,
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no matter how close they stayed, no matter how how well they shot from
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three, the Nuggets found a way to just walk them down and just end
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up winning. They did no matter what. Okayry games back on? Yeah,
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games back on? Okay, cool, cool, cool? This is
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you don't need to go for a three here, you don't. You could
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go for a two and they still have a timeout left, so you can
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still advance the ball up potentially. Okay, let's see the game. They're
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all they're all in the bonus. What does that mean? I know,
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we're quiet. It's gonna sell bad turnover by Carrie Irving. Oh my goodness,
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why that's game? Well technically it's not game, but I feel like
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it's gonna make a jump shot here. Oh no, they're going to the
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foul line. He didn't mean a foul. I think that's game right there.
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I think it's gonna Mike Collins casing these two, well he missed.
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He missed them in game one. No, he's not missing miss one.
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Man's aura. Look at his look at his look at his shirt. He
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says, aura. He literally has aura. Bro man, Okay, even
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I don't. I don't mean to being like what if there was like a
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foul call. Chris Finch just gets up and runs at the ref like,
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yeah, I thought you were supposed to be hurt. I thought you were
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supposed to be hurt. So stupid, get dressed back down. He missed
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it. Oh my gosh, Mike, you don't. Or okay, you're
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a little bit ahead of me. Oh the hell, okay, you must
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be way ahead of me. No way, Oh my god, what game
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is not over? What? Look? Just hit a wild Circus three with
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Gobart and Anthony Edwards taking the found it now for the four point play.
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I don't I'm not gonna say he's gonna make it. Last time I did
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that. So yeah, thank you, thank you for giving an update.
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I was kind of in shock. Look at Anthony Edward's face. He didn't
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even know what to say. Holy shita, my dad's blowing up my phone.
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I have to cover it because he's ahead. That's what he said right
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now. I guess. I guess he's watching it right now. Shout out
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to you, dad. Oh okay, even you're ahead right now. We
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were, we were together at one point. I don't know what happened.
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Okay, So he missed a free throw, Luca missed a free throws clutch.
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He's not Wimby, that's for sure. Stop it, stop it,
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man, stop it, stop it with that bullshit. Man. Damn,
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he's raging. He's gotta buy his jersey. Man. Yeah no, but
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not to be the bearer of bad news for for Timberwolves fans. But I
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still think that this series it's over. It's gonna be done in five games.
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I just think there's only so much defensive, defensive intensity you could bring
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on a nine to night basis. Anthony Edwards jump shooting Wise in this game
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was great, kar Anthony Towns was great, But I just I just don't
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think you're gonna be able to beat the MAVs three more times in a row.
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Even if it does get back to game six, I'm still very confident.
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And then Derek Lively not being in this game was a big factor as
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well, and they're saying he's gonna play in game five. So but overall,
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Josh from this from this series? Did this? Did this teach you
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anything? I know you had the Timberwolves winning six or seven, but has
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this series taught you anything that you didn't know? It's teaching me to stop
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being a little emotional with my picks, to stop doing that, because I
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don't know if it taught me how good the Mavericks were they the way they
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ended the season. I think me and you were both pretty high on them.
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We thought Lucas should have won MVP. Yeah, okay, okay,
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but Lucas should have won. Lucas should have won MVP. So I'm not
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gonna say it taught me a lot about the Mavericks, but it did teach
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me a lot about how having two veteran well, No, I don't not
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say if Luca considered a veteran already, I would say so, he's been
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in the league six seven years. Oh that's crazy, huh, yeah,
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veterans. You have two all time great scorers. Offensively, you have the
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better I'm not gonna say better interior. But they're playing better this series.
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Daniel Gafford and Derek Liveley. They're stepping up in a big way. Derek
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Glaly not playing in this game obviously, so that could be a big reason
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why. Also, the Timberwls are up in this game. We're being completely
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honest here. Yeah. And then plus just the role players. The role
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player step up do their jobs. PJ Washington does. Derek Jones Juniors turned
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into a really good player for the Dallas Mavericks. Tim Hardaway Junior is always
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gonna get his when it comes to being a good a good facilitator, good
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defensive player, Like he's not gonna do too much to nothing. Crazy.
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So I think what this shows me is that they are a championship caliber team,
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the Dallas Mavericks, and that a lot of the stuff at the beginning
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of the season was I just think they'm trying to figure out how to play
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together. And when they made that trade for Gafford and PJ. Washington just
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the whole tight round. Yeah, no, it did flip the whole switch.
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And I was thinking about this other day as far as who's the third
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best player on the Mavericks, and I really think it's Derek Lively, even
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though he's a rookie. I think just then impact he has, it's it's
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tremendous. Just as far as going threat. Yeah, they even split split
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minutes too. Okay, let's see three. Okay, miss oh got the
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rebound. That's game. Yeah, No, that's game. Yeah. So
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it's official the Minnesota Timberwolves. They're going back to Minnesota this series. It's
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three to one. But nice game. Nice game by Anthony Edwards. It
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was a nice game. Even call Anthony Towns. I believe he had twenty
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points in the second half, So that was good right there. I don't
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know why they were reviewing this game. It's already over so, but I
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think, okay, I think as far as when we look at things,
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we can't have recency biased as far as that's what I'm taking away from this
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series. Because of Minnesota Temberwolves. After they beat the Denver Nuggets, everybody
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had them as the clear cut favorites to win, which rightfully, so you
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beat the defending chap champs. But I think it's all matchup space in the
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Western Conference because the Nuggets that are built to beat the Lakers, they're built
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to beat the Mavericks. I think if the Nuggets played the Mavericks, they
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would have beat them. But I think the Timberwolves they were just perfectly constructed
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to beat the Denver Nuggets because they had Rudy Gobert, Nas Reed and car
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Anthony Towns, two seven footers. Then you have primitive defenders in Jaden McDaniels,
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Nikil, Alexander Walker, and Anthony Edwards. So you have the right
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formula. But but when it comes to the Nuggets and Mavericks, where the
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difference is is that the Denver Nuggets there's this interior scoring by Nicola Jokic and
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facilitating. The Dallas Mavericks their scoring is from the perimeter with Kyrie Irving and
26:18
Luka Doncic and then facilitating from there. And that's the main difference. And
26:22
that's why and or actually another thing I talked about it a lot during the
26:29
regular season NBA regular season. I think that the Minnesota Timberwolves. I know
26:34
they had a good offensive well not even really. They really didn't have a
26:38
down the stretch good offensive performance, but clutch offense down the stretch in the
26:45
regular season was not that good. But when they went up against the Phoenix
26:51
Suns and the Denver Nuggets, who do not have good defensive teams, they
26:56
look better than what they actually were. Had one of the best clutch ratings
27:00
in the NBA. But it just didn't happen against the ma because they are
27:04
a better defense. But I think this series is This series is ending in
27:11
five. I don't know how you feel about this, Josh. I think
27:17
maybe they could get it to six, but this series is done. It's
27:18
harder. There's a reason why people don't come back from three to one.
27:21
It's only been done what like three times in history coming down three one.
27:25
Well, they were down three to zero, so we had three h three.
27:27
Er was a lot harder because you gotta win four straight instead of three
27:30
straight. So yeah, but it's well, we will see. I don't
27:36
I think it's done. It's just too much to overcome. And you're right
27:38
a lot with the teams that they were playing, they were bad defensively,
27:41
so that means they were they were bad defensively, so that means when they
27:45
get the ball, they're able to Factilly th Anthony Edwards, get Karl Anthony
27:48
talents to his spots. All that and then plus what also helps is that
27:51
they're so good defensively that when not when the defense slips to offense super quick,
27:56
those teams are kind of screwed. Against a team like the Timberwolves who
27:59
have guys that can run out and like with Jada McDaniels and kle Alexander Walker
28:02
and Anthony Edwards who can run and transition very well, it kind of separates
28:06
themselves. But they're playing a team that can match them in any way,
28:10
and if not, they are better because they do have like y, Kyrie
28:14
and Luca and then the other guys around them who step up and play their
28:15
roles very well. Yeah, I no, I agree with you right there.
28:21
But Okay, is there anything that you want to take away from these
28:26
two series that we haven't talked about before we get into different topics or no.
28:33
Do you think there's a conversation that has to be had this year about
28:36
who if Jalen Brown is the number one guy over Jason Tatum because this year,
28:40
Jalen Brown I think got played. Wait, sorry, say that one
28:42
more time. You lacked out on me. I was gonna say Jalen Brown
28:48
and Jason Tatum the whole thing. Like Jayson Tatum arguably to people the clear
28:52
cut better player. But to me, what I've seen this season and in
28:56
this playoffs alone, I think that's the that's the opposite. It's not the
29:00
case Jalen Brown. It doesn't get the love because he's not he's not out
29:03
there. He's not as flashy as a Jason Tatum, but he he's kind
29:08
of putting this team on his back just a little bit. I think he
29:11
stepped up big in the Nan Pacers game. He won the conference MVP.
29:15
I get that's not gonna be nothing to debate about legacy, but yeah,
29:19
he did win it in this series over his other teammate who didn't step up
29:23
at all the same way that Jaylen Brown did. Well, Okay, I'll
29:29
say this. I'm still gonna say Jason Tatum he is a clear cut,
29:33
but I'll say he he's a weird type of superstar. In my opinion,
29:40
majority of the superstar, the superstars that you had across the NBA. They're
29:45
always high scores, or they facilitate the ball at an extreme level, like
29:51
a Jason Kidd, Steve Nash or the supreme scorers Kobe mj. And then
29:56
sometimes you have a mixture of both. Lebron I think Jason Tatum, he's
30:03
not a tier superstar scorer, but he's just good to great at everything.
30:10
And that's what it is with Jaylen Brown. He could have these scoring outputs
30:14
where it looks like, oh, well, he's a better player by far.
30:18
But I think Jason Tatum his consistency every single game for the most part,
30:23
and even in this series, he had a damn good series. I
30:27
think the last two games, if I'm not mistaken, so twenty six points
30:32
and then in the game three he had thirty six points. So he can
30:37
have these scoring outbursts, it's just more consistency you're gonna get. You're probably
30:41
gonna get twenty to twenty five points, about about eight to twelve rebounds,
30:48
and you're gonna get anywhere from six to ten assists, and you're gonna get
30:51
great defense where you could play one through five. And that's why I say
30:56
he's still the better player. Jalen Brown, Yes, he could score sometimes
31:00
better than Jason Tatum, but he's not the facilitator he is. He's not
31:03
the defender he is, and he doesn't get the number one guy on him
31:07
night in and night out, so he's able to eat. So I think,
31:12
I think I wouldn't be mine, or I wouldn't mind if there's a
31:17
conversation, But I just think, in my opinion, it's still Jason Tatum
31:21
by a wide margin. So you think Jayson Tatum is a better defender than
31:26
Jalen Brown, Yeah, I think so. Jaylen Brown. Jaylen Brown,
31:33
he's six' six's six' seven at most, he could guard one through
31:37
three. You saw during this series Jason Tatum was having to guard Miles Turner
31:42
at some point and he actually did pretty good. He turned him into a
31:47
stretch five where he was just playing outside of the paint. So I just
31:52
think that's the difference there, and then even especially a better facilitator, I
31:57
don't even have to get into that. By that reason, he's just in
32:00
a slump right now. I think. I think like his offensive game has
32:05
been pretty off the last two months. I don't know, it's been a
32:07
while since he had like a real nice offensive night. Well, he's had
32:14
a bad offensive year other than I think it was January or February where he
32:20
was where he was shooting jump shots over like fifty sixty percent. Other than
32:24
that, he's he's been bad, but he's still performing in other areas.
32:30
Kind of like we gave credit for Anthony Edwards in the Denver series in the
32:35
game six, in Game seven, where he wasn't scoring as much, but
32:37
he was facilitating, he was playing great defense. We need to keep that
32:42
same energy with Jason Tatum. I know, I know he's been there a
32:45
couple of times and he has failed, but he's still showing up because compared
32:52
this to the Warriors Finals that they had or against the Heat last year,
32:58
he wasn't even contributing on either sides of the ball, and he's at least
33:02
doing that this year. And that's been the biggest difference for me. But
33:10
okay, I have I have a question for you, So say the Mavericks
33:17
hypothetically speaking, because anything could happen. The Mavericks they make it to the
33:22
finals and they go up against the Celtics, and the Mavericks they win.
33:27
I know everybody says clear cut and dry Nikola Jokic, he is the best
33:31
player in the league. Would Luka Doncic have to be in that conversation right
33:36
there or be the best player in the league because wait what yeah, okay,
33:45
it was gonna be more. Wait what, No, I think one
33:50
or two is Luka Doncics or Nikola Jokic for sure to meet best player in
33:53
the entire NBA off and we're gonna look at an offensive game. We're gonna
33:59
look at offensive game. They're similar players, I understand, different positions,
34:04
so they don't We're not going to generate the same amount of points. But
34:07
if we're looking at the grand scheme of things, they do a lot of
34:09
the same things. They're the number one option on their team, and they
34:13
facilitate the ball better than most people in the entire NBA, probably not the
34:16
best at both their positions in the entire NBA. Plus A rebounds just like
34:21
he's a big man, so it's not out of the rams scheme of things.
34:25
But people are underrating his defense because I even heard today, I don't
34:29
know who the I don't remember who the commentators are today, he was like
34:31
Luca's preserving a lot of energy on defense so he can go have these big
34:36
bursts on on offense. Oh yeah it was Yeah, yeah, that's not
34:40
what That's not what's happening at all. Like he's playing great defense. We
34:45
literally brought up stats last week. I don't have him on the top of
34:47
my head right now, but where he is shutting down opponents like he's not
34:54
yeah, he's holding them to below. He's playing good defense. I'm not
34:58
saying he's not a great defender by all means. Luca is not a great
35:00
defender, but we're looking at who is not a good defender at all.
35:05
I don't think he gets he gets got more times than he gets his.
35:09
I'm gonna say that he gets got more than more than more than he gets
35:15
his, that's for sure. So as far as Luka daunches, people underrated,
35:20
and he's gonna get that James Harden treatment, James Harden is not a
35:22
bad defender either, but he got that based off a couple of plays he
35:24
took breaks in his career where they they wrapped him off as a bad defender.
35:30
So lucas getting the same treatment on defense. But Luca is a good
35:32
defender, not great defender, but a good defender. And just what he
35:37
does offensively, how he leads this team, what he's done in his career
35:40
career, every single playoff series he's ever played, and he's been the underdog.
35:45
He's never had home court advantage, and the one time he did,
35:47
he didn't play the first two games. So you're gonna skill me. So
35:52
you're gonna tell me even when he had home court advantage, he didn't have
35:54
home court advantage because he wasn't on the court. Yeah, so he hasn't
35:58
been a great and are position and this is the first year where they actually
36:00
have a real team around him. So and look and look at what he
36:05
is doing. He has a number two option and then he has a good
36:07
team. So he's doing and he's still getting his no matter who's on the
36:10
court, carry evering's on the court, Luka Dauncis is still getting everything he
36:15
needs. Yeah, so winning a championship. He is the best player,
36:20
if not top two player in the NBA. And one thing that you brought
36:23
up that personally I want to clear it up is that I hate the comparison
36:29
between James Harden and Luka Doncic and the main and yeah, the main reason
36:35
I'm saying that is because yes, both of these guys, they have the
36:38
ball in their hands for majority of the shot clock. But Luka Doncic,
36:43
he could get to any spot and make any shot. Compare that to James
36:47
Harden. He only has the step back three, the floater, the layup,
36:52
or the side step, a side step MIDI shot. That's wait what
37:00
but damn it went in? Yeah, no, it went in. But
37:02
I'm talking about like in a playoff setting where you could lock in on it.
37:07
And not to mention, there's nobody that could really guard Luka Doncic in
37:14
the NBA right now, there is shutdown James. He did. Okay,
37:21
well, one play, I'll say that play, thirty eight year old Monold.
37:23
You nobly shut down, James Harden. I think that was one play.
37:28
That was one play. It was the most important play, all right,
37:32
most important play, you know what? All right? Well, all
37:37
right back to topic. Did you want to go ahead and get into which
37:43
one fantasy draft for guess the player? Hold on? You don't want to
37:45
finish your statement on while they are not the same player? Okay, okay,
37:50
Well, well I thought we were moving on because you brought up Manus,
37:53
So that's they're definitely not the same player. No, But the main
37:58
reason why I'm saying they're not the same players that you put James Harden against
38:05
a lengthy defender like Jaden McDaniels, he's getting shut down because he's just not
38:12
as big and strong as Luka Doncics, Luka Doncic. No matter what archetype
38:16
you throw at him. You could throw a low door, a Kawhi Leonard
38:21
of Paul George, a Jada McDaniels at him, and he's still gonna find
38:23
a way to get his because he can make any shot, any shot,
38:29
no matter where it is. And he's a better facilitator than James Harden,
38:34
and he was one of the best facilitators in the league. So yeah,
38:38
and then I think Luka Doncics the other day, I think he's a good
38:44
defender. I'm gonna say that up front. I think he's a good defender.
38:47
It's just the first few years when he was in the league, he
38:51
didn't try defensively. Just now he's finally trying. So but that's that's the
38:55
main reason for it. Oh yeah, then a quick stay that I just
39:00
got right here. So from tonight, Anthony Edwards, he made seven jumpers
39:07
tonight compare that to Luka Doncic and Kyrie Irving combined. They only made six.
39:13
So that should show that should show that this was more, in my
39:17
opinion, of an outlier game than it was a normal a normal game,
39:23
because I promise you Anthony or Luka Doncic and Kyrie Irving they're gonna make more
39:29
than six combined jumpers. But Josh, let's going and get into some of
39:37
the fun, the fun stuff right here. Did you want to do fantasy
39:39
draft or guess the player first? Or the real question, what did you
39:43
want to lose in first? Yeah, that's a real question Fantasy raft,
39:46
because I'm definitely up on you in fantasy draft. Nah, I am,
39:52
I am, I don't. I don't know the last one that we did
39:55
it while back. I know mine was better. Now, okay, uh,
40:01
you know what, I'm going back through my notes. We have time
40:04
today. We have time today. I'm going back through my notes seeing to
40:10
look at my notes. Don't worry, I'm I'm looking. I'm I'm finding
40:16
it. Okay, we did. We said the last one was a playing
40:22
the Playing edition, so you had dearon Fox, Austin Reeves, Jimmy Butler,
40:28
A D. Joel embiid. I'm just listening to the starting lineups for
40:31
now. I had the bronze, Steph, Zion, Draymond and Bam.
40:37
Your bench was was de Jontay, Murray, Sabonis, Vooch, Trey Young
40:43
and HEIMI Hawkis. Mine was Tyrese Maxey, deebo Herb Jones, Brandon Ingram
40:47
and Kobe Kobe White. Your coach was Steve Kerr minus Eric exposure. Bro,
40:52
I kicked your ass in this one. Mine sounds like I cooked more
40:57
than you did. Bro, I kicked your ass in this one. It
41:01
didn't, Bro, Bro. Now, okay, well we or you know
41:09
what. Let me go to twitch right now. I don't know how many
41:12
people we have here here in Twitch. Maybe one watching maybe Oh Marco's he's
41:17
watching right now. Okay, okay, so we have Wow, I didn't
41:22
even Okay, the chat's been blowing up. Holy crap. Okay, what's
41:28
the saying? Let me go? Look? Okay, so Marco's Stonewall,
41:36
my dad's in here, and then Justice is in here, so yeah,
41:40
yeah, Justice just as he's in here. So you guys decide, you
41:46
know what, maybe my chat I can't see what's in the chat room.
41:51
I guess you can't see what's in the chat room. Okay, there's five
41:57
Josh, don't move. You should read you should have read that one.
42:08
Those guys out of all the ones. Okay, out of all the ones.
42:14
Okay, so you guys comment, who has the better starting lineup?
42:21
I'm a list Josh Deanon Fox, Austin Reeves, Jimmy Butler, Anthony Davis,
42:27
Joel Embiid compared compared to mine with lebron one, we're gonna go.
42:36
We're actually like prepared for this one. Also, what's the top or doing
42:38
final? What are we doing? We're doing the conference finals, teams the
42:42
conference. Let me get my phone out so I can keep track of who
42:45
we're doing. Okay, Okay, I don't have my notebook. I don't
42:49
have my notebook next to me. Actually I do have it. I'll just
42:51
right see. He's unprepared, he's not ready, he's not ready for I'm
42:57
just keeping track of who. He's not ready for the smoke. He's not
43:00
ready for the smoke. Okay, when you decide, okay, heads or
43:05
tails, give me, let's do tell tells Siri flip a coin. You
43:16
wouldn't need a woman to do it for you. Huh, yep, you're
43:20
damn right. Okay, it's tells you get the first pick. Give me
43:22
Luca dauncheons my point guard. Okay, that that's pretty easy right there,
43:29
So at your point guard. Okay, so we're doing an eight man rotation
43:34
and we're doing coach. That's what we're doing for this one. The way
43:40
he's been playing Anthony Edwards at my shooting guard. Okay, Stonewall, he
43:46
just said, Fonsos lineup, but switch him up for Tyler Herold Luca the
43:51
Nuggets guy hit Larry Bird freaking stuff. Alright. So here we're here,
44:01
Okay, who's your next pick? Just building the damn Mavericks here. Give
44:07
me Jason Tatum at my three. Hey, come on, I didn't give
44:15
me. Let's think I think you should take Rudy Gobert. I think that's
44:22
your pick right here. Not taking that guy taking that ahead. Give me
44:29
Jaylen Brown at my three. Jaylen Brown. So soon the chat, my
44:35
dad said, kerr, m J, Pippen, Horace Grant all all the
44:42
lineups, and then justice He says, MJ is dead. Bro's getting active
44:52
in the chat. Yeah, no, it's a drop in. Starting five
44:57
yeah, Justice or all of y'all drop y'all best start in five. That
45:00
goes for you too, Marcos. I see you're in the chats chat too,
45:06
big baby, Glenn Davis, you know what? All right, let
45:14
me let me think of my next player here. Wait, give me give
45:17
me Tyrese Halliburton as my point guard. All right, give me part Anthony
45:27
Towns at my four at you're four, the big per freak. Just as
45:32
he said, Kendrick Kendrick, Kendrick, Kendrick and Kendrick. God damn that
45:38
that starting five would not be able to score. You know, they would
45:44
not be able to score. Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait I'm able
45:47
to score on you. We're Kendrick and yeah. No is that truth is
45:58
true? It is true. It's a about a wash. It's about a
46:00
wash. I'll say that. Don't let me get double team though. That's
46:05
when I start cooking. Yeah no, if Marcos could hit an open layup,
46:09
oh my gosh, bro, bro, we can't get into outside we
46:14
can get into outside ball. Okay, okay, Marcos needs to learn all
46:23
right, all right, let me let me pick my other player here.
46:29
So I'm trying to think, hm hm, so you got Luca Kyrie,
46:36
Jylen Brown, karnthonw Towns, got Tyree's and Jason Tatum. Okay, Pacers,
46:45
Mavericks, Celtics, Timberwolves. Give me this is gonna be more of
46:52
a defensive guy. But give me Jaden McDaniels at my four. Okay,
47:00
because him and because Tatum he could play the four if he needs to.
47:05
I will take Miles Turner at my five. Okay. Ah, man,
47:09
am I and I am? I gonna have to take that guy. Yeah,
47:14
is gonna cook his ass. I don't. I don't want to take
47:17
that guy too bad. It's your defensive player of the year. You take
47:22
him, that's your defensive player of the year. I don't know if I
47:25
would have. Jeez, you know what, I'm gonna just skip out on
47:35
that so far with my starting center, I'm not gonna address that yet.
47:38
Okay. So I'm gonna go with. I'm gonna go with. I'm trying
47:47
to decide between these two players right here, because you're gonna pick the other
47:50
one. I already know. Give me Drew Holiday for my six man,
47:55
all right, give me Rudy Gobert as my Now you're gonna have to play
48:05
with no big man on your team. This is called strac Guys, this
48:08
is strat not not really, not really? How are you gonna draft Daniel
48:15
Gafford and Derek Lightly give me Chris tops porzingis? Oh okay, you thought
48:22
you got me. You thought you got me to get you. I did
48:25
get you. No, No you didn't. Now I'm gonna go gnawse read.
48:31
You're just gonna You're just gonna take all the sitters here. It's gonna
48:36
just be Luca Kyrie. It just sitters. That's that's all I need,
48:39
bro, that's all I need. Give me right here, Derek Lively right
48:45
here from my seventh man. All right now, I'll go back and see
48:52
who I can grab right here. This is your last pick right here.
48:57
I know it's an important one. It's an important pick. It is an
49:00
important pick. You're right, m very very crazy right here. Actually this
49:09
is aaron Ne Smith. No way, Broth was bawling. If we're going
49:15
based off conference finals, might be the move, but I'm not taking him.
49:23
Why is my mind? I'm going Derek White? Ah damn. I
49:27
was hoping you'd forget about him. My team is winning, bro, There's
49:32
no doubt. In my mind, Bro, what are you gonna put all
49:37
the damn sinners? All the damn is a stretch bro, And Miles Turner
49:43
is a good three point shooter. Cat Kat can roam around a little bit.
49:46
So you're gonna have Luca Kyrie and mister no left hand Michael Jordan Jr.
49:52
I don't need him to be the number one option. He's got the
49:55
number one option on this. Yeah, but they're gonna have to facilitate what
49:59
you gonna just io and io and then stretch out, kick out to the
50:04
three, Bro, you work out, trust me, I know what offense
50:07
I'm running here. Okay, okay, then for my eighth man right here,
50:13
pacers or actually this is a good pick. Give me Pascal Siakam right
50:17
here. That's a good pick. It's a good pick. Mm hmmm.
50:23
If I wasn't going for mid players, okay, just okay, who's your
50:28
coach? Who's your coach? Right here? Rick Carlisle, Rick Carlisle,
50:34
No way, give me Jason Kidd, Bro, I have the better coach.
50:39
My guy doesn't have to run into a ref. My guy doesn't have
50:43
to run into a ref with the coach to get a time out because he
50:47
ran out. My coach would not make that mistake at any point in his
50:52
career. That was in the Brooklyn days. That's the old. My coach
51:00
has a championship. My coach has a championship too. My coach has white
51:06
privilege. That's that's what mine has. My coach is a better basketball player.
51:14
Hey, your coach only played. Rick Carlisle played for five seasons and
51:20
only played five games. Bro he was collecting checks. He was just collecting
51:24
checks out there. You're not. He was playing the game smart. I
51:27
bet you, I bet you. Jason Kidd got messed up toes. That's
51:30
what he got. He's a Hall of famer. He's a hall of famer.
51:35
What's that gonna do with court? With on court coaching, that does
51:38
not have to Now you want to switch it up to coaching, he's still
51:43
the better coach by far is yes, by far. Let's look up all
51:47
time record percentages. You know what, let me see and we're Carlo coach
51:57
by far more games. Oh yeah, well duh, he has one point
52:02
five to three of his games point five to three. Jason Kids is fifty
52:10
two on the dot. So it's right there. It's even, well,
52:15
who has more. Who has more Jason Kidd when he's playing. When he
52:20
was playing, he had a fifteen point four winning percentage in his career.
52:22
All right, let's look at Rick Carliles. Bro only played five games.
52:29
Hey, every game counts, Bro. You know what we have time today,
52:35
We have time. I really don't think you can pull that up.
52:37
I don't know if that's even like a searchable stat for Rick Carlisle. Oh
52:40
no, he's only played one career game. He's only played one. No,
52:49
it it said one, it said one played seventy seven. My coach
52:55
has more rigs than him as a player. How many he played? Play?
53:02
Eighty four, eighty five Boston Celtics, eighty five, eighty six Boston
53:06
Celtics, eighty six, eighty seven, Boston Celtics. Bro was being backpacked,
53:09
Bro is being carried. He won. He played thirty eight games,
53:13
seventy seven games, forty two games. My boy was getting active, Bro.
53:16
That's that's what we were looking at. Where BRO had he averaged nine
53:21
point nine points two point No, that's minutes, near mind, he didn't
53:24
average that point nine nine point nine minutes. He averaged two point two points
53:29
a game. I was about to say I have it pulled up right here,
53:35
bro Okay to two points a game and one he only has one.
53:40
He only has one ring? Yeah, and his is arguably more difficult.
53:47
Was it more difficult? Ring? Yeah? The era of basketball he played
53:51
in was much harder than the era that Rick Carlisle played in. So I'll
53:54
give him Matt Yeah, okay, all right, Well, well okay,
54:00
you could list you can list your team. You can list your team right
54:04
here, the losing team right here. All right. I got Barry Stevens.
54:07
Shout out to Barry Stevens, Tom Chambers, I got, I got
54:14
Luka, Donchets, Kyrie Irving, Jalen Brown, Carl Anthony Towns, Miles
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Turner, Rudy Gobert, Nasried and Derek White. And my coach is Rick
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Carlisle. I drafted my team out to fight, and I am okay with
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that. So my team is Tyreus Halliburton, Anthony Edwards, Jason Tatum,
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Jada McDaniels, Christaps Porzingis, Drew Holliday, Derek Lively, and Pascal Siakam,
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and my coach is Jason Kidd. So mine, so mine's pretty simple
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here, Mine's better, No, I truly believe mine is better. I
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truly believe mine is better. You're gonna be biased to yours, bro,
54:58
that's the thing. Well, you're gonna be biased to yours too. That
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I am not a biased sports analyst at all. You literally said two weeks
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ago, this is a bias podcast. You you said that people we have
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we have footage. Change we we have footage. Would you walk around and
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he grabbs Oh my gosh, Matthew. He didn't expect him to change.
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He was a task collector, dude, like, and he followed Jesus Christ
55:29
and the span up through of a year like he changed his life. I'm
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just saying, bro, like he just pulled up cap. You stop just
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kidding. No, you didn't do that. All right, let's go to
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get up to guests the player. Let's get to guess the player. Oh
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I didn't even pick my players. Gosh, no, you just pick So
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it's anybody from the from the conference finals. Anybody from the conference finals.
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All right, this one's medium. Yeah, this one's about medium right here.
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Okay, well you guys could try to guess the player too. Here
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from the questions. We each have ten questions each, and we're gonna try
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to be the first one to guess the player. Okay, well, let
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me go ahead and pull this up right here, just in case you ask
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very specific questions. I don't know who Moldy Bred four five nine two is,
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but you have no ball knowledge. He has been talking to you,
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Josh asked me. He's talking to you for sure. Nah. No,
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but all right, you got your player, all right? I stuck at
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this game. All right, I'll let you go first. I'll let you
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go first once again, so you could ask your question. Is your player
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in the Eastern or Western Conference? It's a yes or no thing? Oh
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yeah? Is your player in the Western Conference? No? Okay, he's
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in the Eastern Conference? Code baby, Okay, this is this is gonna
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just be a shot in the dark. Here is your player on the Boston
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Celtics. Nope, no, okay, all right. Is your player on
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the Indiana Pacers, Yes he is. Okay, Okay, you're closer,
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You're closer, You're closer. Okay, I'm gonna have to just go with
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the with the safer one East Or is your player in the Eastern Conference?
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Yes? Okay, no, no way, no way. We end up
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picking the same player here. Okay, questions I want to ask. We're
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both at the same level right now, so I'm trying to separate it where
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I can just narrow it down real quick. Is this player a starter?
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No? Okay, okay, I got it? You got it? Are
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you sure? Okay? Okay, let me see. I may have to
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throw I may have to throw a dart here because I don't want to give
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up my undefeated record record here. Aaron Smith? Is your player? Aaron
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Smith? Nor player TJ McConnell. Yeah, it's TJ McConnell. I retire.
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I'm never playing this game again. This is watching this episode of so
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called Sports Analyst. You can follow us on Twitter. You follow us Alfonso
58:43
Underscore three, and then you can watch us on You can listen to us
58:46
on all platforms, Apples, Speaker, Spotify, iHeartRadio. You know,
58:51
so It'sponso. What do you want any last words? You gotta read that
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ship back. Uh, you gotta ud that ship back. Bullshit bullshit,
59:08
full fucking ship. You know what I was gonna My question was gonna be
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what to get t J McConnell, Oh, what is this player of African
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descent? If you said no, I was gonna guess TJ. McConnell all
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the way. That would have been crazy. Okay, So if it wasn't
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Aaron Nesmith, was it, geez? What's his name? Not Aaron ne
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Smith? I can't think of his name right now? What the hell?
59:42
I guess I wouldn't have gotten it either way. Not Pascal, not Miles
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Turner. What the hell is his name? Oh? Andrew Nimhart? Was
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it Andrew Nimhart? No, it was Pascal see Arkham. It was Pascal.
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Ah, damn damn. I thought that would have been too easy,
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right there. See that was yeah, yep, different mindsets, all right,
1:00:08
all right, so this one's this next one, it's more difficult right
1:00:12
here. This is gonna be the hardest difficulty one right here. Obviously we
1:00:17
still know the players here. But but all right, okay, I'll get
1:00:23
the first question. Huh, how difficult? I would say, they've played
1:00:34
in the playoffs, on their on their teams, They've they've gotten some pt
1:00:39
al right, for sure. All right, I'm ready, Okay, you
1:00:44
can go first. I could go first. All right, Is your player
1:00:46
in the Western Conference? Nope, No, he's in the East. All
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right. Is your player in the Western Conference? Yes, okay, is
1:01:00
your player on the Boston Celtics. Yes, yes, all right? Is
1:01:09
this player on the Dallas Mavericks, Yes he is. How's the door?
1:01:16
Bro? Nate's over here trying to peep in. Okay, he heard your
1:01:22
bad fantasy team. You have to come over here and like, yeah,
1:01:27
okay, your player is on the Boston Celtics. I'm gonna try to throw
1:01:30
just a I'm gonna just try to throw a dart right here. Try to
1:01:35
guess the third let me see. Is it Xavier Tillman Nope? Okay,
1:01:44
I feel like I'm I'm close though, I'm close. I know I'm close.
1:01:47
I know I'm close. Okay, So there's Sam Hauser, Peyton Pritchard,
1:01:53
Oh, Luke Cornett. Oh, it's gotta be Luke Cornett. No,
1:01:58
I got it's gotta be Luke Cornett. I'm going Is this Max Kleeber?
1:02:05
No? What the hell? That's cat Bro. I know it's Max.
1:02:10
I have it written down right here. I approved, I red,
1:02:14
I wrote it down even before the pod. Okay, is it Luke Cornett?
1:02:20
Nope? Oh okay, so it could be housed. Are even allowed
1:02:27
just to guest player? Well, yeah, you could guess. You guess
1:02:31
we just haven't asked any more questions here, No ask no more questions.
1:02:37
I feel like there's no reason you're just throwing shots in the dark here.
1:02:43
Dude, Why am I going blank on Mavericks players right now? You just
1:02:46
watch them play too, I know. Let's see. I'm not gonna go
1:02:52
back to twitch. See if there's any I'm not listening to your let me
1:02:59
go back. Okay, Okay, Marcos is putting some crazy stuff in the
1:03:06
chat. I don't know who. I'm not gonna say that, Underscore Powers.
1:03:10
I'm not gonna say that. I don't want to get canceled. So
1:03:15
who's got the best team between the two teams and this year's finals? Jaden
1:03:21
Hardy? Yeah, well I'll give it to you to Jalen Hardy. But
1:03:25
yeah, I'm a dog. I'm a dog. What can I say?
1:03:29
Okay, okay, let me try to think of yours? Was it?
1:03:31
Oshae Brisset? No, you're thinking way too deep, bro, Peyton Prichard,
1:03:38
Yeah, oh my goodness, I was trying to get too deep into
1:03:43
my bag here. I wasn't gonna go too deep like I would know,
1:03:46
like because I couldn't think of Sam whatever his name was. I was gonna
1:03:50
go him, but I couldn't think of his last name, so I was
1:03:53
like, I'm just gonna get paying Pard. I forgot about I forgot about
1:03:59
ye tillman, I'm not going. Barco's has putting crazy stuff here in the
1:04:02
chat. But there's this one question by Damian. It says who has the
1:04:06
best deference between the two teams in this year's finals? So I think he's
1:04:12
talking about between the MAVs and Celtics. So what do you think about that?
1:04:16
Yeah, the Dallas Mavericks. I just think they can guard all phases
1:04:21
of basketball, interior, on the wings, mid range, and transition.
1:04:27
They have all the pieces they need to defend as far as the and we're
1:04:30
talking about interior, not interior on the freaking okay, front court defense,
1:04:40
Okay, great backcourt. I'm stripping right now on all my freaking being right
1:04:43
now. Okay, interior wife Boston selling suck. Let's just go with that.
1:04:46
They suck at interior defense. They can defend everything else but the interior,
1:04:50
and just because and that's why I think the Maps are better, because
1:04:54
they can guard all facets of basketball. Okay, I could see that.
1:04:59
I think I think I'm gonna just give the argument here for the Boston Celtics,
1:05:04
I agree with you, though, I say they have better defenders,
1:05:09
the Celtics perimeter defenders because you have Drew Holliday, Derek White, Jason Tatum,
1:05:14
Jaylen Brown, all right there, and Chris stops porzingis sometimes he could
1:05:18
be he could be he could be a rim protector. Oh okay, okay,
1:05:27
I think David was talking about something else here now that I'm looking at
1:05:30
the chat, Yeah, he was definitely talking about something else here. Okay,
1:05:36
let me see does Luca Luca help my goodness? Okay, okay,
1:05:43
we're just gonna gonna go ahead and get on right here. So, Josh,
1:05:48
did you want to do uprid? Yes or no? Yeah, I'm
1:05:56
done. Okay, we know people right now that are gonna listen to the
1:06:00
pod. On the pod you can skip past this. It's probably gonna take
1:06:02
it a little bit to do. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
1:06:06
So right now in the pod and then we'll go into hoot grid and then
1:06:11
we can upload it like that. What do you think? Yeah, no,
1:06:13
I'm I'm I'm cool with I'm cool with that, all right, if
1:06:17
you'll want to stay after we're about it, in the pod if you think
1:06:20
of the outro, and then you'll want to say, after listening for a
1:06:23
little bit longer, maybe like fifteen minutes, we're gonna do if not probably
1:06:27
be dogs and finished it in two minutes because we're like that, yeah,
1:06:30
okay, so yeah, we're gonna go in and end the pod, but
1:06:31
we're gonna be right back as far as with this, just a quick intermission,
1:06:36
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