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Ep. 84: Jaguars' End of Preseason Priorities | Jags A.M. Podcast · Jags A.M.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jack Jam.
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Speaker 2: I'mkaannie Stephens, Brian Sexton, and John Oser are with me
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Speaker 2: today is the preseason is quickly wrapping up as we
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Speaker 2: get ready for the final preseason game of the year
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Speaker 2: on Friday against the Atlanta Falcons. So this week a
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Speaker 2: little bit like a game week as far as practice goes.
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Speaker 2: We'll start off with big thing Number one, which is
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Speaker 2: dynamic defense. Darnell Savage, who's been playing with a red
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Speaker 2: jersey on all of training camp, finally got that off
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Speaker 2: so was able to fully practice this week, and he
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Speaker 2: took talk to the media earlier this week a little
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Speaker 2: bit about what he sees from the defense.
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Speaker 3: And I feel like it's rare that you have a
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Speaker 3: defense that's dynamic because normally you think of offenses a
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Speaker 3: dynamic But I feel like the defense dynamic unless the
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Speaker 3: player maker gonna make plays. So I think it's perfect
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Speaker 3: fit for me.
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Speaker 2: John, We've talked a bunch about how the players have
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Speaker 2: been taken to Ryan Nielsen's defense. They a lot of
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Speaker 2: them feel like they can play like themselves, go out
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Speaker 2: and make plays. Is that something we'll hopefully see in the.
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Speaker 4: Preseason game this week.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think a little bit.
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Speaker 5: I mean, you're gonna have the starters play in probably
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Speaker 5: for three series, so I expect to see it a
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Speaker 5: little bit. I don't put too much stock in what
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Speaker 5: we see in preseason after the starters go out in
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Speaker 5: terms of what we'll see from the Ryan Nielsen defense.
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Speaker 5: But I think so far, if you're doing a report
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Speaker 5: card in the defense, you're seeing him play faster, You're
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Speaker 5: seeing him play more aggressive.
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Speaker 1: It feels like they get it.
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Speaker 5: Brian, those are sort of the boxes you wanted to
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Speaker 5: check her in preseason until the regular season started.
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Speaker 6: John, I'm trying to think of a time where the
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Speaker 6: Jaguars have added a coordinator on either side of the
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Speaker 6: ball where there has been great anticipation of what would happen,
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Speaker 6: and it would happen so quickly. I mean, it's almost
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Speaker 6: as if the minute he showed up here everything changed.
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Speaker 6: So it's interesting to watch everybody on this defense figure
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Speaker 6: out their role, whether it's Chad Muma, who's had a
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Speaker 6: really good preseason stepping into that strong side. We'll get
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Speaker 6: a chance to look at Darnelle Savage for the first time,
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Speaker 6: and the word on him is he is made to
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Speaker 6: play nickel in this defense because he's a guy who
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Speaker 6: can play man in the middle or he can play
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Speaker 6: in his zone package. He is a very versatile interior
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Speaker 6: defensive back who we haven't seen except in a very limited.
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Speaker 4: Fashion so far. Our second big thing today is going
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Speaker 4: to be moving up.
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Speaker 2: We've talked a lot too about some of the second
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Speaker 2: year players Parker Washington, Tank Figsty, but we've seen some
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Speaker 2: of the rookies really showing out, and one of them
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Speaker 2: in particular, Mason Smith, that second round pick, and he
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Speaker 2: talked a little bit about what he's been.
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Speaker 4: Learning and training him.
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Speaker 7: Consistency, you know, coming into.
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Speaker 5: The next level.
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Speaker 7: You know, that's something that I really wanted to focus on,
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Speaker 7: you know, just not being up and down and you know,
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Speaker 7: not having a great game and then coming back in
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Speaker 7: and having a great game. So it's just, you know,
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Speaker 7: more about being more consistent. And I think that still
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Speaker 7: applies to this day, like you know, just being able
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Speaker 7: to stay at a high playing at a high level
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Speaker 7: each and every game, each and ever practice. You know,
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Speaker 7: you got to bring it every day in the league.
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Speaker 7: Who is being able to do that and continue to
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Speaker 7: grow in that espit.
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Speaker 2: Brian, He's working on that consistency. If we get to
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Speaker 2: see the high end of Mason Smith every day. That
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Speaker 2: pick's going to be.
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Speaker 4: A home run.
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Speaker 6: You know, I've said it before, but when they drafted
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Speaker 6: him in the second round, it reminded me instantly of
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Speaker 6: Chris Jones, who slid into the second round back in
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Speaker 6: twenty sixteen, of Jeffrey Simmons, who slid a few years
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Speaker 6: ago down into the bottom of the first round, both
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Speaker 6: of whom had the same pedigree, both of whom had
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Speaker 6: the same size, speed, both of whom were disruptive playmakers
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Speaker 6: in college. It's high praise and it's not yet earned.
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Speaker 6: But when you start to see how big he is,
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Speaker 6: how long he is, how impressive he is in terms
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Speaker 6: of his work ethic, and the fact that at times
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Speaker 6: he's been unblockable on the practice field out there, you
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Speaker 6: could see where this could be the lightning and a
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Speaker 6: bottle home run kind of draft pick. But the Jaguars
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Speaker 6: have long looked for in the middle of their defensive line.
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Speaker 5: John Yeah, I think fans still wonder about Mason Smith
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Speaker 5: because the sample size in preseason games has been limited,
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Speaker 5: so it can be tough for a defensive interior guy
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Speaker 5: to make that huge impact play when there's a small
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Speaker 5: number of plays, But as Brian said, there have been
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Speaker 5: times during practice where he's starting to come on. He's
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Speaker 5: starting to do things that make you think, Okay. Over
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Speaker 5: the course of a season, we're gonna see that as
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Speaker 5: he gets more comfortable, as he as he starts to
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Speaker 5: learn his surroundings, as he learns about matchups. Really, the
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Speaker 5: two top two draft picks sort of have followed the
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Speaker 5: same line during training camp practices, Brian Thomas Junior and
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Speaker 5: Mason Smith.
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Speaker 1: Feels like they're starting to get it again.
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Speaker 5: I I usually expect little from rookies. I think these
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Speaker 5: guys are gonna contribute.
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Speaker 4: Our final big thing today is gonna be open spots.
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Speaker 1: So we know that T. D.
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Speaker 2: Bethard left preseason game number two with a goin injury.
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Speaker 2: He's been ruled out for this week. Reports are that
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Speaker 2: e J. Perry, who's been a backup in the system,
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Speaker 2: will be back in the building as well. Now, John,
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Speaker 2: does that automatically open up a roster spot there if
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Speaker 2: they were to carry three quarterbacks? What do we kind
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Speaker 2: of looking at that long term with the quarterbacks A.
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Speaker 1: Tu Well, it feels and it is your speculation.
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Speaker 2: E J.
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Speaker 1: Perry did sign it?
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Speaker 5: This guy to email on my trusty iPhone, it feels
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Speaker 5: Brian like it may be CJ. Bether to either go
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Speaker 5: into injured reserve to start the season, because you can
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Speaker 5: get two guys through that this year, you don't have
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Speaker 5: to end their season by putting them on IR. Four
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Speaker 5: to fifty three comes out, So maybe Trevor Lawrence mac
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Speaker 5: Jones backup, put CJ on injured reserve if you want
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Speaker 5: to take that route with EJ. Perry as your practice
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Speaker 5: squad short term emergency, that's one scenario. I don't know
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Speaker 5: if that's the path they're going to take.
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Speaker 6: Well, obviously it depends on how things shake out on
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Speaker 6: Friday night, if there are any other injuries to players
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Speaker 6: that you really need to get through as opposed to
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Speaker 6: a guy like CJ that you're thinking is your practice
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Speaker 6: squad third quarterback. Maybe that isn't available to them, but
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Speaker 6: I get what you're saying. You need to have a
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Speaker 6: guy who can operate the practice squad, the scout team,
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Speaker 6: and that looks like it could be EJ. Perry because
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Speaker 6: for an older guy like c J. Bethard, groin can
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Speaker 6: be something that takes a little while to get through it.
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Speaker 6: This could force the Jaguars hands at the quarterback position.
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Speaker 4: Stay with us here on JAGSAM.
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Speaker 2: Coming up after the break, we're gonna hear from Defectsive
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Speaker 2: coordinator Ryan Nielsen and what he had to say about
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Speaker 2: what he's seen from his players during training camp.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back into jag ZM.
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Speaker 2: We heard from the kinds of coordinator Ryan Neilson yesterday
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Speaker 2: and he has a.
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Speaker 1: Lot to say.
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Speaker 2: He's definitely a quotable guy when talking about trying to
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Speaker 2: whittle down this roster and what he's looking for and
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Speaker 2: implementing this new scheme.
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Speaker 4: He talked about how the players are taking to.
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Speaker 8: It, the knowledge of the scheme, feel like they're they're
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Speaker 8: doing a great job. The players, uh are coaching staff.
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Speaker 8: You know that that combination of those guys were working
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Speaker 8: in the meetings, things like that, picking things up walk
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Speaker 8: through was awesome. Today. You know, those guys are on
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Speaker 8: top of it, really locked in, fired up about the
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Speaker 8: direction that it's gone in terms of the whole combination
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Speaker 8: of everything. But yeah, we're gonna keep pushing every day, keep.
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Speaker 4: Pushing them every day. But they have to make those
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Speaker 4: roster decisions soon.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they do.
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Speaker 6: I kind of mentioned it in the first block with John.
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Speaker 6: I'm struggling to remember a defensive coordinator or a coordinator
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Speaker 6: on either side of the ball that's come in with
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Speaker 6: high expectations that has delivered such immediate results their training
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Speaker 6: camp preseason. So we got to get to the regular
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Speaker 6: season to see it. But I talked to Corey Robbinson
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Speaker 6: yesterday who coaches the cornerbacks, and Chad Mumo yesterday and
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Speaker 6: the way that they communicated what this defense is, how
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Speaker 6: they're working through it with Ryan Nielson, their enthusiasm for
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Speaker 6: what's possible. John, I don't think it's ever happened here
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Speaker 6: in Jacksonville that the expectation has been this high and
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Speaker 6: the delivery has been so quick.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll see. I mean, I'm not going to sit
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Speaker 5: on a show and say it's delivered. When they have
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Speaker 5: Miami sitting there week one, then we'll see if it's delivered.
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Speaker 5: But everything you're talking about is real, the communication, how
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Speaker 5: it feels, how these players feel confident in what they're doing.
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Speaker 5: That's the first step. I think they have the right
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Speaker 5: personnel in place. I think they know the defense. I
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Speaker 5: think it fits I guess we'll seeing them up.
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Speaker 2: Shell talked a bunch of men about Mason Smith, Jordan Jefferson.
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Speaker 4: We've seen flashes from now that he's healthy and.
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Speaker 1: Back out there.
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Speaker 2: Nielson also talked about that interior defensive line in the
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Speaker 2: depth that they have.
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Speaker 8: Guys have done a really good job, Jeremy Garrett. He's
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Speaker 8: done an excellent job with those guys fundamentals, technique wise,
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Speaker 8: getting them to play really hard, you know. So, Yeah,
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Speaker 8: it's gonna be a tough, tough decision. Excited about all
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Speaker 8: the guys at that position, really, and we've rolled three
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Speaker 8: four guys with the noose and tackle position in all
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Speaker 8: these games, so it's been it's been pretty good. So
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Speaker 8: we'll see. We'll see what it when it comes down
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Speaker 8: to the that time and have really right now having
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Speaker 8: no idea.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that might be some of the more difficult
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Speaker 2: roster decisions.
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Speaker 4: John.
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Speaker 2: We saw a heavy rotation there, but even you know,
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Speaker 2: players that we've seen a lot of, Roy Robertson Harris
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Speaker 2: was playing deep into Yeah, that first game played a
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Speaker 2: good chunk of the second game as well. So people
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Speaker 2: aren't secure at a spot necessarily.
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Speaker 5: No, I don't think there's secure and there's been a
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Speaker 5: lot made of the Roy situation. It it it feels
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Speaker 5: like what they're saying is right, meaning uh, Roy didn't
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Speaker 5: play much to a no tas if at all with
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Speaker 5: an injury, so they're trying to get him reps, trying
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Speaker 5: to get him up to speed. I there's always talk
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Speaker 5: among fans about what they don't do in the offseason.
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Speaker 1: Well, they didn't add enough here or there to do what
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Speaker 1: they did do.
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Speaker 5: They went hard at making this a stouter defensive front.
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Speaker 5: Jordan Jefferson, Mason Smith, Eric Armstead, uh adding to what
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Speaker 5: was already Devon Hamilton, Josh Heinz Allen and Trayvon Walker.
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Speaker 5: Uh Brian I just listed off seven or eight guys
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Speaker 5: who you feel like you don't have to get.
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Speaker 1: Exotic to stop the run around here.
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Speaker 5: That's important because if you can stop the run just
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Speaker 5: doing your basic things, freeze everything up.
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Speaker 1: I know that's what they wanted to do. It sure
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Speaker 1: feels like they're stouter than they were in the last
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Speaker 1: six games last year.
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Speaker 6: You know, I don't see Roy Robertson Harrison not being
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Speaker 6: here right. I think he is here, and I think
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Speaker 6: if you start thinking about roster spots that might cost
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Speaker 6: a sixth linebacker, or a fourth running back or a
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Speaker 6: fifth safety, you know, someone else somewhere else that the
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Speaker 6: coaching staff wanted to carry. But they were so what's
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Speaker 6: the right word, ineffective? Poor, bad against the run at
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Speaker 6: the end of the year last year, in that game
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Speaker 6: that could have decided the playoffs. I don't think you
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Speaker 6: can let a big guy like ro Robertson Harris get
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Speaker 6: away from you. No, Mason Smith is going to be
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Speaker 6: really good, and Jordan Jefferson shows signs of being a
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Speaker 6: really good young football player as well. You want them
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Speaker 6: on your roster, you want them contributing, but you also
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Speaker 6: need Roy roberts and Harris.
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Speaker 4: I think, yeah, they're not there quite yet. Some of
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Speaker 4: those young guys.
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Speaker 2: Also, Nielsen talked a little bit about We talked this
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Speaker 2: week was more like a practice week as you would
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Speaker 2: see in the regular season, as they work on game
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Speaker 2: planning specifically for the Falcons, but also maintaining their identity.
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Speaker 8: You don't want to lose the focus that it's about us,
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Speaker 8: it's about Jacksonville.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 8: What you do want to focus on is kind of
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Speaker 8: what it looks like. This is what a reach block
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Speaker 8: looks like. This is what you know, a fade route
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Speaker 8: looks like, or a particular route of particular run play
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Speaker 8: with you know, but when you look at the league,
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Speaker 8: it's it's a lot of the offenses are very similar rights,
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Speaker 8: and so what we want to do is we want
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Speaker 8: to show them, show our players, you know, here's here's
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Speaker 8: what you're going to what it's going to look like.
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Speaker 8: But hey, let's really focus on our alignments, our assignments,
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Speaker 8: and our fundamentals and how we have success versus these plays.
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Speaker 8: So yeah, so we're game planning a little bit in
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Speaker 8: terms of, you know, kind of who they are, what
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Speaker 8: they do, but we always and this will go through
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Speaker 8: then it's always a focus on us and what we do,
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Speaker 8: how we think, how we.
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Speaker 6: Act, how we play.
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Speaker 2: I always want to play the best style for yourself,
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Speaker 2: but it is important to game plan for your opponent.
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Speaker 2: Nielsen talking a little bit there, Brian, what do you
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Speaker 2: learn from your team when you finally start game planning
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Speaker 2: and going over these schemes, It gets a little more
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Speaker 2: complicated than just going out there and doing what you
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Speaker 2: know playing football.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you want to see them carry it over right
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Speaker 6: from the meeting room to the practice field to the
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Speaker 6: game field to execute the specific assignments that they're given.
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Speaker 6: The hard part about this week, guys that we know
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Speaker 6: that the Falcons are not going to play many of
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Speaker 6: their frontline guys, and so some of the game planning
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Speaker 6: elements that they work on on the field aren't going
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Speaker 6: to be quite as impactful as if you're trying to
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Speaker 6: stop Jon Robinson right, or Kyle Pitts or Drake London,
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Speaker 6: you know, those great players. However, it does give you
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Speaker 6: an opportunity to be able to take the young players
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Speaker 6: through the process of what a game plan week looks like,
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Speaker 6: what a normal regular season week of preparation looks like,
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Speaker 6: and then execute on Friday night no matter who you're planning.
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Speaker 5: Again, yeah, it's become interesting during preseason since they went
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Speaker 5: to three. There used to be sort of a best
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Speaker 5: practices in the NFL that nobody would.
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Speaker 1: Play anybody week one, et cetera.
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Speaker 5: You get to week three, you'd play starters through a
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Speaker 5: half in game plan, and now everybody's sort of approaching
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Speaker 5: it differently. So I think what Ryan Nielsen talked about
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Speaker 5: is what you have to do week three. These days,
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Speaker 5: you want a game plan, you want to do your routine.
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Speaker 5: They call it a dress rehearsal. Make this week for
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Speaker 5: players as much like a game week as possible, so
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Speaker 5: that the rookies know where the bathrooms are, you know.
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Speaker 5: And so once you establish that, then I think these days,
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Speaker 5: whereas maybe four or five years ago you would game
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Speaker 5: plan a little hard for this, I think now you
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Speaker 5: game plan because you want the rookies and young players
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Speaker 5: to know what it's like to game plan to go
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Speaker 5: through that routine. I don't think you were as worried
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Speaker 5: about like how it looks on Friday, because I don't
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Speaker 5: think you say I know who you're playing anymore. So
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Speaker 5: it's very important for the rehearsal and the routine, but
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Speaker 5: they still want to work on themselves because there's still
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Speaker 5: little practice time.
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Speaker 6: He says, listen, and I get that. I would wonder though,
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Speaker 6: if it doesn't change Doug Peterson's approach to some of
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Speaker 6: his starters to be in there playing against guys who
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Speaker 6: are likely going to be looking for, you know, practice
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Speaker 6: squad spot somewhere else or a job right because they're
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Speaker 6: at the bottom end of the roster and they're going
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Speaker 6: to be out of football.
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Speaker 1: Hotly finding a job. It'll be at Macism wherever it is.
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Speaker 1: You get my point?
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Speaker 6: Do I really want my frontline guys out there playing
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Speaker 6: against guys who are desperate to make a play so
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Speaker 6: they might hang on there? If I'm Doug Peterson, I'm like, yeah,
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Speaker 6: let's get a series or two. And I think Doug
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Speaker 6: did kind of allude to this on Monday when he
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Speaker 6: said we'll see how it goes. Right. At some point
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Speaker 6: you're like, yeah, let's not risk that. So you almost
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Speaker 6: want to get the coaches together and go, hey, look
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Speaker 6: in that third preseason game, right, can we agree we're
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Speaker 6: going to play some guys right? Or when don't play anybody?
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Speaker 6: Which sounds like collusion, but the reality of it is
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Speaker 6: is that you would like to not risk starting football
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Speaker 6: players against guys who are going to make desperation moves.
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Speaker 2: We'll talk a little bit more about that after the
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Speaker 2: break coming up. We're going to do with this or
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Speaker 9: Third and final preseason game, we usually let the starters
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Speaker 9: play a little bit more, you know, And again it
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Speaker 9: depends on the circumstance and the way the game goes,
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Speaker 9: but you'd love to get maybe two quarters, you know,
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Speaker 9: out of them, you know. But we do take a
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Speaker 9: look at Atlanta a little bit and we simulate a
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Speaker 9: game week schedule wise, now that camp has broken, and
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Speaker 9: that's probably the only reason, you know, these weeks are
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Speaker 9: are important to get the guys, you know, no longer
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Speaker 9: in the hotel, they're living at home, transportation here, all
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Speaker 9: that kind of stuff. It just it simulates and sort
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Speaker 9: of feels like a game week.
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Speaker 1: This.
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Speaker 5: Oh, that's this or.
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Speaker 2: That's two very different philosophies. Let me do a little
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Speaker 2: this or that. Doug Peterson very much in the camp
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Speaker 2: of play your starters during the preseason. As we mentioned,
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Speaker 2: the Falcons are not going to be doing that whatsoever
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Speaker 2: in this game. I think the Bears have also come
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Speaker 2: out said they're not going to do it. Sean McVay
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Speaker 2: Verry notoriously doesn't like to do it with his players.
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Speaker 1: Where do you guys.
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Speaker 4: Land on this?
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Speaker 2: I think it depends a little bit about what kind
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Speaker 2: kind of team that you have. But are you rest
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Speaker 2: everybody so that don't get hurt, or you play them
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Speaker 2: because that's their jobs they should play.
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Speaker 6: I'm playing guys, and I'm trying to put them in
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Speaker 6: situations where they can get accustomed to the speed of
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Speaker 6: the game because you don't practice full speed like you
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Speaker 6: play and the physical side of it. I mean Aspaselli.
16:55
Speaker 6: The next time you see him, he'll tell you. All
16:56
Speaker 6: these guys will tell you that you have to get
16:58
Speaker 6: ready for the physical side of the game. They don't
17:00
Speaker 6: want you to kill them and make them play two
17:02
Speaker 6: quarters of all three games, but they do need some
17:06
Speaker 6: time on the field to get ready for the regular
17:08
Speaker 6: season so that that caliber of play doesn't look like
17:11
Speaker 6: preseason ball.
17:13
Speaker 1: I think it's a little case by case.
17:15
Speaker 5: Generally, with most teams, I would probably play them the
17:21
Speaker 5: way Doug does, meaning I like how he does. Whenever
17:25
Speaker 5: you're not doing a duel, go ahead and play him
17:28
Speaker 5: for a couple of series the weeks to do a duel.
17:31
Speaker 5: Really use that work. That makes sense in terms of
17:33
Speaker 5: getting the right number of snaps. If I was a
17:36
Speaker 5: coach and had a super high functioning side of the ball,
17:41
Speaker 5: I probably would air on the way that the Chiefs
17:44
Speaker 5: seem to be doing it, which is to not play
17:45
Speaker 5: their guys all that much during the preseason. Beyond that,
17:51
Speaker 5: I think the benefits of being ready, of having those.
17:55
Speaker 1: Juices, all that stuff.
17:57
Speaker 5: I think usually I would play guys about the way
18:00
Speaker 5: Doug does it, because it's football.
18:03
Speaker 1: You gotta be ready for it.
18:04
Speaker 2: John, do you feel like because of the way they
18:06
Speaker 2: practice now, with less pad of practice, that these games
18:09
Speaker 2: become more important?
18:11
Speaker 1: No, I mean.
18:14
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna sit here and say preseason games are important.
18:16
Speaker 5: I think they're uber important for evaluation. I think in
18:20
Speaker 5: terms of prepping for the regular season. Realistically, we're in
18:24
Speaker 5: a phase right now where you're always gonna see the
18:27
Speaker 5: first three weeks of the regular season be some almost
18:30
Speaker 5: shaking off the rust, cause it's just never gonna be
18:34
Speaker 5: again where you feel like you can take six games
18:37
Speaker 5: and hit and be ready.
18:39
Speaker 1: I just never think we're going back to that.
18:41
Speaker 5: So I always think tackling early in the season and
18:44
Speaker 5: some functionality. I always think there's gonna be a little
18:47
Speaker 5: bit of rust to knock off first two weeks.
18:49
Speaker 6: I do think that the way that they practice has
18:52
Speaker 6: a negative impact on the game in terms of the
18:55
Speaker 6: physical side of it. They can't tackle no, right, I
18:59
Speaker 6: mean you see that, see that. But so I do
19:01
Speaker 6: think that that's why you've got to have these preseason
19:05
Speaker 6: games and get time because otherwise the first month of
19:08
Speaker 6: the season looks like the preseason, then the networks aren't
19:10
Speaker 6: paying for the fans aren't paying for that. You have
19:12
Speaker 6: a duty to get teams ready so that the regular
19:14
Speaker 6: season looks like regular season football and not preseason. Hey, look,
19:18
Speaker 6: this is a it's a tough, physical game. Guys get hurt.
19:21
Speaker 6: You can't change that, right, I mean, look at how
19:23
Speaker 6: safe they've made the helmet in the head, how they've
19:26
Speaker 6: taken out of the game, and you still have guys
19:28
Speaker 6: getting concussions. Anton Harrison suffered wanting practice out here. It
19:31
Speaker 6: speaks to the nature of the game, which is as
19:33
Speaker 6: hard as you work to be safe and secure in it,
19:36
Speaker 6: it is not a safe and secure game. So I'm
19:38
Speaker 6: going to air on the side be cautious with guys, right,
19:40
Speaker 6: I'm going to know Christian Kirk has a calf. I'm
19:43
Speaker 6: not gonna play them right, but I'm gonna get my
19:45
Speaker 6: guys in there and get time from them because I
19:48
Speaker 6: need them to be ready to go on Opening Day.
19:50
Speaker 6: And I want my guys to be better than the
19:52
Speaker 6: guys across from them on opening day. So I don't
19:54
Speaker 6: care what the Rams do, I don't care what the
19:55
Speaker 6: new age coach does. I'm going to take the old
19:58
Speaker 6: school approach and I'm going to play some guys in August.
20:03
Speaker 4: Brian's harden nose coach, Well, I just.
20:04
Speaker 6: You know, I mean, listen, you can't get away from
20:06
Speaker 6: the fact that football is a fit is a gladiator game.
20:09
Speaker 6: You can't make it basketball on grass, and I think
20:12
Speaker 6: we're kind of getting to that in August.
20:14
Speaker 4: Let's move things along.
20:15
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk a little bit about the offensive line
20:18
Speaker 2: because co Football Focused with their rankings coming out says
20:21
Speaker 2: one of the Jaguars is the best offensive lineman so
20:24
Speaker 2: far in the preseason Offensive Player of the Week even
20:27
Speaker 2: cole Van Landon, would.
20:28
Speaker 4: You have guessed if I gave you five guesses who
20:30
Speaker 4: was going to be?
20:31
Speaker 1: No, probably not, and it look I'm sure cold played fine.
20:37
Speaker 1: I don't know enough aspens the line played and know
20:39
Speaker 1: whether you did or not.
20:41
Speaker 5: Sometimes I don't know exactly how PFF grades on that front,
20:47
Speaker 5: but the credit to them, Listen, they.
20:49
Speaker 6: Have so many grades and I don't understand I get
20:51
Speaker 6: it that there are people who played high end fantasy
20:55
Speaker 6: football and probably some gambling, you know, methodology, and they're somewhere,
20:59
Speaker 6: But they have so many grades and none.
21:00
Speaker 4: Of them are relative to me.
21:02
Speaker 6: I just I don't know what the grade needs.
21:05
Speaker 4: Well, let's say Cole had a great game. I'm sure
21:07
Speaker 4: you've played well.
21:09
Speaker 2: I'm gonna use that kind of move into our other
21:12
Speaker 2: this or that, which is there's a couple examples, specifically
21:15
Speaker 2: on the offensive and defensive line, where there's a veteran
21:18
Speaker 2: that's been here and knows your system very well, but
21:20
Speaker 2: there's also maybe a first second year player that has
21:24
Speaker 2: a high ceiling but maybe hasn't gotten there just yet.
21:27
Speaker 2: When you are where you are with the Jaguars, which
21:29
Speaker 2: is when now, according to Shad Khan, do you err
21:32
Speaker 2: on the side of, Hey, this person already knows their system,
21:35
Speaker 2: but maybe they're not gonna get much better than they
21:36
Speaker 2: already are. Or do you with a proven vet, or
21:38
Speaker 2: do you kind of take that younger guy and hope
21:41
Speaker 2: they come along this year or next year and get
21:43
Speaker 2: you there.
21:44
Speaker 6: I didn't catch the snarow off the top. Is the
21:46
Speaker 6: guy that I'm thinking about moving on from a starter
21:48
Speaker 6: or is he a backup?
21:50
Speaker 1: Is he Orlando led Better right?
21:53
Speaker 6: Or is he Roy Robertson Harris he is?
21:58
Speaker 2: It could be either. It could be Jeremia led Better,
22:00
Speaker 2: could be Roy Robertson Harris. I'm talking maybe a yeah, yeah,
22:03
Speaker 2: maybe at cole Van Lannon. Who is you're looking at
22:06
Speaker 2: maybe or behind Walker little like right there, filling in
22:09
Speaker 2: if someone's hurt again, or are you working more with
22:12
Speaker 2: Javon Foster hoping he gets there?
22:13
Speaker 6: So I'm going more with Javon Foster, trying to develop him.
22:15
Speaker 6: I'm going more with Jordan Jefferson and Mason Smith over
22:19
Speaker 6: Jeremiah Ledbetter. Nothing against led Better. He's thirty one years old, right,
22:22
Speaker 6: Van Land has been around here for a couple of years.
22:25
Speaker 6: And I mean maybe the PFF grade says he's a star.
22:29
Speaker 6: I haven't seen it, right, He's not in danger of
22:31
Speaker 6: cracking my starting lineup. To me, he's a cusp guy.
22:34
Speaker 1: Right, I'm moving on.
22:35
Speaker 6: I'm going with youth because it's a young man's game.
22:38
Speaker 5: I think what you do here is you get you
22:43
Speaker 5: essentially usually carry about eight or nine offensive line. Say
22:48
Speaker 5: you carry nine, you know you're starting five. You have
22:54
Speaker 5: two developmental guys in Javon Foster and in Cooper Hodges,
22:58
Speaker 5: they were young guys.
23:00
Speaker 1: And then you want to make sure you have two swing.
23:02
Speaker 5: Guys in Walker Little and maybe Shatland I'm not hopefully
23:09
Speaker 5: from In some cases your young developmental guy can be
23:13
Speaker 5: your swing guy as well. And then what you want
23:16
Speaker 5: is maybe where Cole fits Cole, Van Lanen, Tyler, Shatley,
23:23
Speaker 5: Williams Derrel. Well, you know you want four or five
23:26
Speaker 5: guys who you can move to the practice squad. Feel
23:31
Speaker 5: good about the totality of that. If you lose one, okay,
23:35
Speaker 5: well good luck to you. But so that you have
23:40
Speaker 5: some guys you can rotate in that are sort of interchangeable.
23:47
Speaker 5: So I think that's what you try to do. I
23:49
Speaker 5: try to avoid the question, but I think that's the
23:51
Speaker 5: approach you try to take in this day and age,
23:54
Speaker 5: where you can.
23:54
Speaker 1: Act like the practice squad is a little more part
23:56
Speaker 1: of your roster.
23:57
Speaker 6: Shotley's a culture guy. I'm keeping Shotley because he is well.
24:02
Speaker 6: First of all, he's one of the quarterbacks guys, right,
24:04
Speaker 6: and it always helps to have them. Plus it's just
24:06
Speaker 6: a great guy to have in the locker room. But
24:09
Speaker 6: I need young and promising as opposed to, Hey, maybe
24:12
Speaker 6: this guy can play if we need him.
24:14
Speaker 2: Where all the puzzle pieces come together, as the roster
24:16
Speaker 2: comes together. We'll talk a little bit more about it
24:18
Speaker 2: tomorrow as we get closer to that deadline. But a
24:20
Speaker 2: lot of different things in play, for sure, say with
24:23
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24:46
Speaker 2: We're wrapping things up as we get ready for preseason.
24:49
Speaker 2: Game number three will be in Atlanta on Friday.
24:52
Speaker 4: I have all access tonight, that is back.
24:54
Speaker 2: We'll be at String Sports Brewery tonight, right down the
24:57
Speaker 2: street from John.
24:58
Speaker 4: Maybe he'll wander down if I can them into it.
25:00
Speaker 1: No, maybe we'll see are you buying day?
25:04
Speaker 4: Maybe Longman, Well, he's a very generous guy.
25:07
Speaker 2: What are you guys looking forward to? Obviously we'll see
25:09
Speaker 2: the starters a little bit. I'm just hoping maybe the
25:12
Speaker 2: offense gets you know, a good solid scoring driver two
25:16
Speaker 2: and then get them out of there.
25:17
Speaker 4: What are you guys hoping to see?
25:18
Speaker 6: I want to see the defense continue to elevate, right,
25:21
Speaker 6: to continue to play fast and make plays. I mean,
25:24
Speaker 6: last week we saw all the twos and threes and
25:27
Speaker 6: they looked good. They looked fluid in a defense that's
25:30
Speaker 6: new to them. I'd like to see some of the
25:32
Speaker 6: starters again get out of the game healthy, but for
25:36
Speaker 6: the time that they're in there, continue to keep the
25:38
Speaker 6: level of it up.
25:40
Speaker 5: And maybe watch those top three rookies Thomas Jerry and
25:42
Speaker 5: Jones and Mason Smith to see if now they were
25:46
Speaker 5: a couple of weeks away for the regular season, Falcons
25:49
Speaker 5: aren't playing any starters, look for them to look like
25:53
Speaker 5: they belong.
25:55
Speaker 4: How many roster spots do you think?
25:57
Speaker 2: I know we'll get into this a little bit next
25:58
Speaker 2: week too, but how many are up? Anybody gonna win
26:01
Speaker 2: themselves a roster spot on Friday.
26:02
Speaker 6: Night only if they're in a neck and neck battle, right,
26:06
Speaker 6: I mean, what do you figure there are four or
26:08
Speaker 6: five spots that are legitimately open at this point, not
26:11
Speaker 6: counting the practice squad, which we've said, right with sixteen players,
26:15
Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean, if you go I go back
26:17
Speaker 6: to Stacey Mack in two thousand, he made an incredible
26:19
Speaker 6: play in the preseason finale in Dallas and had like
26:23
Speaker 6: a seventy nine yard reverse touchdown run. They ended up
26:26
Speaker 6: keeping him that year and they needed him and he
26:29
Speaker 6: played pretty well, so he wasn't gonna make the roster originally,
26:33
Speaker 6: but that play was the difference. But he was right there,
26:36
Speaker 6: neck and neck with a couple of other guys.
26:38
Speaker 5: Yeah, last running back, last wide receiver, defensive line. Sure,
26:46
Speaker 5: there are roster spots up for grabs, I would say,
26:50
Speaker 5: I think anybody who loses a last second battle, it
26:54
Speaker 5: is probably on the practice squad. So it's a little
26:56
Speaker 5: disingangous they're not gonna be here. That's will be part
26:58
Speaker 5: of it. But making those decisions in the fifty three
27:01
Speaker 5: you can make them tougher.
27:02
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we'll be back with you here on
27:04
Speaker 2: JAGXAM tomorrow as we look ahead to that final roster
27:06
Speaker 2: cut and the final preseason game of the year.