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S5 #3 Bachelorette No More · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with our radio. Hey Ashley, Hi, Ben, I'm so excited
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  Speaker 1: for this podcast. It is gonna be absolutely magnificent. We
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  Speaker 1: have a huge guest, Rachel Lindsay is on the Almost
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  Speaker 1: Sameas podcast for the first time ever. What in the world,
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  Speaker 1: how have we not had the bachelor out on That
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  Speaker 1: is absolutely wild? But we are lucky to have her
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  Speaker 1: this time. We're gonna talk about in this podcast some
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  Speaker 1: crazy stuff. We're gonna talk again. We're gonna ask Rachel
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  Speaker 1: her thoughts on the ri April Fool's joke, and we're
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  Speaker 1: also gonna talk about some really interesting things that happened
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  Speaker 1: this week. It was not the week of love for
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  Speaker 1: Batchel Nation. It was actually the week of breakups. Laron,
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  Speaker 1: Ben Wah and Dean and Leslie are broken up. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm also really excited to hear your thoughts, Ashley and
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  Speaker 1: Rachel's thoughts on who's gonna get married first. With Immatchination,
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  Speaker 1: we have the list here of successful couple so far Imbatchlation,
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  Speaker 1: Caitlin and Sean, Jojo and Jordan's Ari and Lauren Raven
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  Speaker 1: and Adam Rachel and Brian. Rachel will give us her
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  Speaker 1: thoughts on everything everything going on in the love life
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  Speaker 1: of Rachel and Brian, but also her thoughts, Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: who wants a TV wedding? And what about this weird
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  Speaker 1: three way wedding Shenanigans that there's been rumors floating around about,
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  Speaker 1: like how they would cram all the weddings into one
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  Speaker 1: wedding special that doesn't seem very personal. So we'll see
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  Speaker 1: if Rachel would ever be down to do something like that.
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  Speaker 1: But I know everybody wants to talk about the Dean
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  Speaker 1: and Leslie and Clari and ben Wah breakup. It is
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  Speaker 1: totally uncuffing season. Channing and Jenna are no longer as well.
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  Speaker 1: All very sad. Um. I can't say that I didn't
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  Speaker 1: see this coming, especially with Clarien Benoi. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: just feel like that girl was up on stage and
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  Speaker 1: she did not know what they're to say yes or no. Um,
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  Speaker 1: But she had to say yes because she didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to hurt the guy so publicly, I think she should
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  Speaker 1: have said no. Well uh, and I Rachel has never
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  Speaker 1: helped back honestly. You know, she's always honest, so I'm
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  Speaker 1: excited to hear her honest thoughts. I also need to
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  Speaker 1: get an idea of what the heck is decupping decuffing
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  Speaker 1: the couffing season the winter. That's when like you find
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  Speaker 1: a relationship and then you dcuff come the springtime. Oh jeez,
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  Speaker 1: I'm so far behind on this anyways, athlete, let's get
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  Speaker 1: this thing started. How was your weekend? The Master's weekend?
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  Speaker 1: And you're back. You're back in your old childhood home
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  Speaker 1: right now? I see? It was absolutely incredible. Actually I'm
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  Speaker 1: not I'm not kidding, Like, I could not have picked
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  Speaker 1: a better way to spend time with my dad. Um.
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  Speaker 1: Not only because it was a bucket list item for
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  Speaker 1: the both of us as a father and son experience. UM,
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  Speaker 1: but the Masters U and Augusta National just do something
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  Speaker 1: different when it comes to your experience. And I kind
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  Speaker 1: of I've been thinking about a lot since we got back.
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  Speaker 1: What makes that place so special? Outside of the tradition
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  Speaker 1: and outside of this the fact that it is one
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  Speaker 1: of the most um historic championships in all of sports,
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  Speaker 1: what really makes a guest the social special? And and
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  Speaker 1: and the only thing I come up with is they
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  Speaker 1: really care about the spectator experience. They really make the
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  Speaker 1: spectators feel special. UM. And the way they do this
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  Speaker 1: is by keeping things so simple. So, for example, this
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  Speaker 1: is one of the coolest things. And I know you'll
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  Speaker 1: be a fan of this because we've talked about before.
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  Speaker 1: You are oh yeah, no phones, that's it um And
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  Speaker 1: so once you're inside the course, you're focused on one thing,
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  Speaker 1: the people that you're with and the people that you're
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  Speaker 1: watching in the tournament itself, and so everybody. And here's
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  Speaker 1: the second thing that I think makes it unique. It
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  Speaker 1: is there's no hierarchy when it comes to seating. So
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  Speaker 1: it's a golf tournament. And most golf tournaments have your
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  Speaker 1: suites and they have your special like areas that are
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  Speaker 1: graded off the people that pay a little more money
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  Speaker 1: or the sponsor the tournament. That's all good and great,
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  Speaker 1: But what's cool about the Masters is that there are
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  Speaker 1: no sweets. And so unless you're a member of Augusta National,
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  Speaker 1: which not many people are, that everybody from Wayne Gretzky,
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  Speaker 1: who walked the ferries with me, to Will Ferrell to myself,
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  Speaker 1: my dad, we all sit and stand in the same area.
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  Speaker 1: And because there's no phones, nobody bothers anybody. Yeah, because
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  Speaker 1: you're not asking for pictures or anything like that. Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: It reminds me of the only way I can explain
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  Speaker 1: this is it reminds me of college. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if anybody listening or if you actually remember this, but
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  Speaker 1: for me, I went to Indiana University, an amazing school,
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  Speaker 1: but the Greek system was big, and then having the
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  Speaker 1: nicest apartment was kind of big. You know, your junior
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  Speaker 1: and senior year of college, and I missed. I found
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  Speaker 1: I found out, you know, probably my junior that I've
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  Speaker 1: missed the dorms because the dorms were one place where
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  Speaker 1: everybody's equal. Oh my god, the dorms were the greatest
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  Speaker 1: time of my life. That was my My freshman year
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  Speaker 1: in the dorm was the best. Like, those are the
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  Speaker 1: kind of friends that you only make in that weird
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  Speaker 1: environment where you're sharing everything and nobody knows the background
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  Speaker 1: that came from, and it is assimilating into like the
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  Speaker 1: same world and it doesn't matter if you're cool or
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  Speaker 1: a loser in high school. All of a sudden, you're
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  Speaker 1: you can be anything you want to be. Yeah, exactly,
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  Speaker 1: your spot on. I mean, I don't know if the
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  Speaker 1: dorms are appreciated as much as they should be. I
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  Speaker 1: think that's the coolest part about him. If nobody knows
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  Speaker 1: your backstory, nobody knows how much money you come from,
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  Speaker 1: nobody knows if you don't come from any money. You're
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  Speaker 1: all living in the same place, You're all doing the
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  Speaker 1: same thing. You're all new to this world that you're
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  Speaker 1: trying to figure out. So, you know, for those listeners
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  Speaker 1: who haven't gone to college yet, look forward to the dorms.
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  Speaker 1: Take advantage of that year because it's exciting. It's fun
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  Speaker 1: for those of us who have gone to college, some
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  Speaker 1: of them us, you know, we graduated years ago. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Those experiences where everybody feels equal again don't exist often enough.
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  Speaker 1: And even though the Masters, yes, is a luxury, and
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  Speaker 1: even though it is a nice place, um, it allowed
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  Speaker 1: that feeling once again. UM from the Masters to my
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  Speaker 1: workout this more at Fierce forty five in Denver, Colorado.
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  Speaker 1: I had people coming up to me and I'm not kidding.
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  Speaker 1: My dad even said, he goes, I've never heard so
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  Speaker 1: many people compliment you on your podcast, and people at
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  Speaker 1: the Masters were coming up podcast. Yeah. I had I
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  Speaker 1: had a husband come up and ask for a picture
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  Speaker 1: in an autograph for me because his pictures This was
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  Speaker 1: on Wednesday, if you can take your camera your camera
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  Speaker 1: on Wednesdays before the term started. He came up and
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  Speaker 1: he said, can I get your autograph? My wife is
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  Speaker 1: a huge fan of Ashley and you in the podcast
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  Speaker 1: he do today this morning by work out. Somebody's a
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  Speaker 1: huge fan. So, Ashley, You've got a lot of fans
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  Speaker 1: out there and listeners. Thank you for listening, and thank
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  Speaker 1: you for Thomas. You like the podcast. We love doing it.
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  Speaker 1: We say that all the time, but sometimes because it's
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  Speaker 1: do people love the podcast and we appreciate that, but
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  Speaker 1: they also love and and honestly, we had I had
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  Speaker 1: I'm here. What's up? Guys? Hey? I love you. I'm
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  Speaker 1: so happy to get someone else the crowd. Wait, that's
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  Speaker 1: so funny that I was going to ask you that
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  Speaker 1: does it feel weird that, uh, come a couple of
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  Speaker 1: weeks from now, you're not going to be the standing bachelorette.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna have somebody else. Like it's like miss America
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  Speaker 1: or you know, missys a hand over the crowd, and
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  Speaker 1: I always imagine that must be a really sad, complicated feeling.
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  Speaker 1: It's not at all. People people called me that it
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  Speaker 1: was going to be sad, but I think I'm just
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  Speaker 1: so excited for her and it's so well deserved that
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy to give it to her so she can
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  Speaker 1: go out and find her breath. It's not a sad. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you've got a good a good bachelor at fallowing you up.
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  Speaker 1: You did a great job to kind of paved the
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  Speaker 1: way for her. But Rachel, I can tell you that
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  Speaker 1: when Nick was announced as the Bachelor, I was still
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  Speaker 1: as Lauren at the time, and I think we both
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  Speaker 1: took the death and it was like sweet relief because
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  Speaker 1: we thought, we thought, you know, obviously things have changed,
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  Speaker 1: and you could ask questions on other stuff. We thought, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: for the first time in the year, I am not
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  Speaker 1: going to be identified as the bachelor, and and and
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  Speaker 1: maybe you'll have to let us know how this goes
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  Speaker 1: for you. Maybe for the first time in the year,
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  Speaker 1: you'll no longer be oh, you are the bachelor. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: you are you know, whatever is next in your life. Yeah, No,
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  Speaker 1: it's a great feeling I want to be Rachel. So
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  Speaker 1: I know, actually there's a ton of questions for you,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna let her have at it here. But Rachel,
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  Speaker 1: if you could help us out here. You know, it's
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  Speaker 1: been a little while since we've talked. I know that
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  Speaker 1: you stayed active and busy. But who is Rachel today?
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  Speaker 1: Like what if you now is the bachelorette? Is just say,
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  Speaker 1: for example, no longer people will identify you as the bachelorette.
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  Speaker 1: Who do you hope people identify you as? And who
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  Speaker 1: are you today? So this is such a great question.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think i've I've quite gotten it like that,
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  Speaker 1: But I would say that Rachel is a fiance, she
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  Speaker 1: is an attorney, and she's in the sports now, which
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  Speaker 1: is something that I've aspired toothful being an attorney and
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  Speaker 1: being bacherette. My major's with sports and went to law
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  Speaker 1: school for sports, so I'm getting back into that. So
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  Speaker 1: right now I would identify as a sports broadcaster, but
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  Speaker 1: that you went to law school for sports, like sports law,
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  Speaker 1: entertainment law, Yes, sports and entertainment law. So what do
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  Speaker 1: you want to do with that broadcasting? Do you want
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  Speaker 1: to be like a straight sports reporter or do you
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  Speaker 1: want to bring a law element into it? Well, I
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  Speaker 1: always thought that I would be behind the camera, so
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  Speaker 1: you know, I participant this journey. So now I'm kind
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  Speaker 1: of like, all right, well, I think I can do
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  Speaker 1: the whole broadcasting thing. I'd rather be in studios and
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  Speaker 1: sidelines and I would love to bring in, um a
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  Speaker 1: legal aspect to it. And there are sports legal analysts,
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  Speaker 1: but um, you don't really see females in that in
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  Speaker 1: that role. So I'm hoping to bring that in as well,
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  Speaker 1: but also talk about current fons were going on in
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  Speaker 1: sports the player outside of the court of the film.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm working on a podcast right now to actually
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  Speaker 1: bring that all to FRUI shows cool. Can you guess
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  Speaker 1: a little bit about that? Yeah, it'll see. So there's
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  Speaker 1: a company out of San Francisco that moves to Dallas
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  Speaker 1: called Chat Sports and they do audio podcasts that they
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  Speaker 1: also do video produced, so also doing the video produced podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure which, um we're gonna do through iTunes
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  Speaker 1: or YouTube, but I will be all we called one
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  Speaker 1: on one for Talk with Rage, and I'll be talking
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  Speaker 1: about current affairs with fords, um, the legal aspect, the enterprise,
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  Speaker 1: a mental health just every topic and in depth along
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  Speaker 1: with just what currently is going on is for So
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  Speaker 1: I think it'll be exciting. You know, man, I's the
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  Speaker 1: only one watching the sports these days women are two
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  Speaker 1: and so I think that there's a platform for it
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  Speaker 1: and I'm excited. I know that you were talking about, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: wanting to use the podcast as a platform to teach
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  Speaker 1: teach women sports and then like gear sports towards um
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  Speaker 1: female interests. Is that correct? Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, I
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  Speaker 1: think that sports. I mean, it's not only an interest
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  Speaker 1: of mine, but at the same time it helps me
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  Speaker 1: a lot of my career and I'm invited to lunch
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  Speaker 1: is just because like I can talk sports with the
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  Speaker 1: guys or even in my relationships current and past. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's great that we can talk about like sports and
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  Speaker 1: I have to share that in common with my significant other.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that there's a big misconnection that you
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  Speaker 1: have to know that the xs and os and the
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  Speaker 1: ins and out of the game, you really don't And
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  Speaker 1: so I just don't want to help people be not people,
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  Speaker 1: but women also be conversational what it comes before? So
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  Speaker 1: are you back to the courtroom, are you working or
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  Speaker 1: is this kind of a new career path for you. No,
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  Speaker 1: I'm actually still working. I'm really fortunate that my firm
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  Speaker 1: allows me to be flexible, so I work a lot
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  Speaker 1: of times remotely part time. Like I'm actually working now.
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  Speaker 1: I'm on a road trip with Bryan from Philadelphia or
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  Speaker 1: from pin State, and I have my computer in my
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  Speaker 1: lab and I'm working on a motion. So I actually
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  Speaker 1: get to work remotely. But then when I am in Dallas,
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  Speaker 1: I am in the office, so I am taking depositions,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm in the courtroom for hearing. So yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: do both. It's a lot. Are you guys both living
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  Speaker 1: in Dallas? Yeah? Yeah, Brian moved to Dallas pretty much
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  Speaker 1: once he was a Now we went to Miami practice
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  Speaker 1: and stuff, and then he moved to Dallas. Is he
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  Speaker 1: still working as a Dallas working Is he still working
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  Speaker 1: as a chiropractor. Yeah, He's about to actually join a
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  Speaker 1: new practice, which is exciting. Um and yeah, so that'll well,
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  Speaker 1: but I have to even like officially I'm out that
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  Speaker 1: yet or anything, but he'll be starting with a new
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  Speaker 1: practice in Texas. Do you find it? I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: know that the two of you have been a success story.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna consider you a success for story. We want
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  Speaker 1: to dig into that here later. The question in UH
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  Speaker 1: for you, we have a ton of questions about relationships
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  Speaker 1: and about some of the breakups that have happened recently
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  Speaker 1: in fascination and kind of get your thoughts on that.
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  Speaker 1: But have you found UH in your careers? Do your
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  Speaker 1: personal life has has the fame of this whole thing
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  Speaker 1: or or the two of you being a famous couple,
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  Speaker 1: has that affected your careers? Has affected your life as
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  Speaker 1: a couple? Are you able to kind of isolate that?
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  Speaker 1: I would say that, UM, it's affected our lives as
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  Speaker 1: a couple. I think we were at the perfect time
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  Speaker 1: in our lives where it was easy for easier for
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  Speaker 1: us to transition back in our careers into our careers
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  Speaker 1: and what it is that we want to do. UM.
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  Speaker 1: I think that if I were younger, I wouldn't have
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  Speaker 1: been able to handle the same along with my career.
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  Speaker 1: But I also have to attribute that to my of
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  Speaker 1: firms who's allowed me to be flexible and come in
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  Speaker 1: and out and have a home to come back to. UM.
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  Speaker 1: So that that has helped me a lot. But as
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  Speaker 1: far as in affecting my career, I will say that
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  Speaker 1: when I do trial. So I am concerned when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to picking majurity that that can actually affect me,
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  Speaker 1: um putting on a trial. I haven't. I haven't encounters
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  Speaker 1: that yet, but I'm very fearful of that because you
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  Speaker 1: have to ask the purity do you know me? How
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  Speaker 1: do you know me? Well? Will your opinion of me? Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like prohibit you from being able to give
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  Speaker 1: a fair vertice in this trial? Like I'm afraid that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, people will be looking at me as graceful
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  Speaker 1: the back brett and not be able to separate that
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  Speaker 1: from me being an attorney. That is, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I have clus that's a great point. So is that
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: something that makes you want to stay away from the
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: actual courtroom for a couple of years? You think? No, No,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: I love being in court. I mean people don't go
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: to trial anymore. I'm fortunate that my firm does. But
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: I love It's like Dame Day and everything that you're
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: doing before trusting you for that day. So I love
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: the trial. So you basically are an athlete, You're you know,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: law is your sport. Yes, I'm just start saying that
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: I'll get you credit for that. Thanks all right. Well,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: as much as we love career talk, we do want
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: to get gossipy as well. Um. My first question for
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: you is who do you think My first question gossipy,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: um Will is all of these bachelor couples, which one
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: do you think will get married first? Caitlin and Seahn,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Jojo and Jordan's, Ari and Lauren, Raven and Adam or
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: you and Brian, um Ride and Me. I mean, I
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: hope it's Ride and I are the ones that get first.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: But I mean, if um it's um reading you know
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: the rumors and everything, it sounds like it's going to
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: be Ari and Lauren. It sounds like they're like pushing
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: really hard to get married first. Um, But I would say,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: who I really think is gonna get married? Do you
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: do you advise Rachel? I mean, I think you and
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: I can talk about this here for a second. I
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: have a couple of thoughts. Do you advise Ari and Lauren,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: no matter how successful't happy there? Because I'm I think
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: they're probably very happy and and very much in love,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: and that's great. But do you advise them to get
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: married so quickly? Because I know when I got off
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: the show and I was excited and everything was going well.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Like my relationship, we were pushing to get married as
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: quickly as possible, and then all of a sudden, not
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: because of anything at this point major happening, it just
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: we we took a step back, and we actually found
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: it beneficial to kind of take a deep breath. You
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: you know, Brian, now have been together for a year, Um,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: you've taken some time. Do you recommend that? Are you
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: telling Ari and Lauren just go for it? No? I
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: mean I definitely recommend taking the break. I remember I
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: was talking to Joe and she was so excited and
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: they were ready to make these prays to get married,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you know, reality hit
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: like you said, and they wanted to take this how
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: you get to know each other and establish facundation of
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: the relationship, and that was really important for Brian and I.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: So I personally would imprize Arian more than to slow
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: down a bit, because everything's been so fast and caught
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: up in the clouds and you've just been doing you know,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: the lower coaster of everything growing that a round coast
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: because everything is kind of going up. So I would
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: just waitful kind of pat to a bit, and you
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: can get to know each other in real life away
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: from the show and the attention of everything. I would
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: completely agree with that. Uh, it's tough. Let's be super honest,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: just total rawnest you want to you want a TV wedding? Right, yeah, great,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: thank you. Rachel's just say it because there's just easy reason,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: not because it's like I really want to be see.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I do feel like it's a full circle moment and
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: people are insatiating their love story and they want to
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: see what's going on. Yes, I mean, if I have
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: a preference, I would prefer see weddings. Also, you get
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: for it, Yeah, all right, I mean I'm right. So
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: there is nothing wrong with admitting you want a TV wedding.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I know that when we're in the talks to do that.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's such a cool package that you get.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, how many people can get offered to Hey,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: it's a free wedding that will help you throw on
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: and will be magnificent. So if that is an opportunity
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: for you, uh, and that is something that you and
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Brian want, then congratulations because I am completely in support
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: of that. Thank you. Yeah, I mean it's just why
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: why would you say no? I mean unmusch. Maybe you
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: have your own personal reasons you just really want to
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: keep practically, but you've already put so much of it
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: out there. What's the wedding? You know, it's not like
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: it's another nine or ten weeks, it's one. Yeah. When
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: my parents always told me that, uh, when I get married,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: that they would recommend uh yeah, I mean back in
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: the day, it was either a lope because weddings are
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: great but they're stressful, or do a super small wedding.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: But I always wanted kind of a bigger wedding. So
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: the fact that you could do this and you have
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: a whole team of people in support and backing you up. Uh,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: you know, yes, I understand some people might not be
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: in for it. They don't they have their own criticism
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: of it, but hey, I can't wait to watch. I
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: know this is silly. I know that there are some
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: rumor that they wanted to do a three way wedding
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: between Jojo and Jordan and Caitlin, Shawn and you guys,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: And I think that is the only thing that I
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: would be like, 'm not so sure about that. Did
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: you hear about that rumor they come to you with
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: that they didn't come from with that option. But I
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: did hear the rumor and I was very vocal about
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: it because that's something I mean, you have to have
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: your boundaries right, and that's right, and would absolutely say
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: no to And I think no Caitlin and jo would
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: say the same thing. Nobody don't want to share that
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: day with someone else. I wouldn't want to get married
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: with them. See if they wanted to do a three
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: way special where it was like two hours and you've
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: got to see three weddings, three separate weddings. I can
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: understand that, but you can't just cram you all down
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: the one aisle. Yeah, it takes away from the seriousness
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: of a wedding. And I think people would think that
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: our relationship shift for a joke if we did that, honestly,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: and they're not. Right. Okay, so you're prepping for a wedding, Rachel. Uh.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: We you know, we have a lot of listeners out
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: there who we talked about breakups and we talked about
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: successful relationship. This is a very relational focus podcast. A
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: lot of our listeners love to get advice, UH and
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: law also love to get the inside scooped so they
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: can feel like they can relate with with people in
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Batchelor nation. What has been the hardest part for you
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: and Brian? Honestly, I mean with no judgment here, we've
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: talked pretty openly what has been hard in your relationships
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: and since you guys have gotten together. Um, well, one,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: just the fact is that everything is still public, and
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: you know, we we had a lot of like scrutiny
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: after it was over with and the finale and everything,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: so it was really hard to separate that and and
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: know what we have and stay true to each other.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: And I've spoken about that at length that that that
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: was really difficult afterwards. But I also think that just
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: two people coming together for the first time, we're both
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: in our thirties, established in that way, and then lending
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: our lives together, you know, like that takes work and
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: you're outside of the fantasy of the show and reality
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: it's hard as fast. So you know, we really had
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: to work on lending our lives together. Would you be
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: open to telling us on what one stress or in
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: your relationship has been. Um. You know what, I've learned
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: a lot about myself. I'm more type AI than i'd
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: like to it fit. And I didn't realize that until
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I had someone else living with me, and I was like,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I'm really like anal about certain things,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: and so I've had to kind of like calm that
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: down a bit. Um Mine so chilled, Like he's like,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: he's more chill, so he's definitely like calmed me down,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: and then to be up of it. It's it's a
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: good balance. I mean, I think that's what what's the
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: craziest thing about being in a serious relationship, especially when
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: when you've committed to each other, you learned so much personally.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, there were so many moments where I was like,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: I never realized I had the insecurities and the reaction.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I was telling actually a couple of weeks ago on
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: the podcast that I found out my relationship that my
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: reaction towards things was so uh incorrect and negative. So
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: when something would bother me, I would have these like
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: freak out moments and then ten minutes later be like,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: what the heck did I just do? You You don't
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: realize it until you have somebody else say that you
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: care about that you're trying to make their life better
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: as well, uh to when it comes the light of
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: just you know, how what we have to work on,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: but that's the beautif relationship to make each other better. Yeah,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: and I would definitely say that Brian, I have a
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: really good ballot. We have a lot in common. But
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: then we also, like you said, they're because that we
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: handle definitely, and it's taken time to learn how we
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: react different situations and then just working through that. And
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: it's really about having a willing attitude to want to
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: work those things out. And I think that we have
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: really good communications and we've been able to do that.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: You know, it's always sunshine and blue prizes, but like
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I would say it
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: is well, speaking of things not being sunshine and rainbows,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: we just recently had two big Bachelor Winter Games breakups
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: this week Claire and Benoir and Dean and Leslie. Um, Rachel,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: did you see these coming? Maybe ben and I are
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: too close to the situation. Did you not see it coming?
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I have both of them coming, Okay. I definitely saw
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Clare coming. Okay, I but at lea saw it because
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: it just felt like what I spoke about earlier. It's
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: the whole fantasy and getting raped up and saying and
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I think that that would mistake a lot of thought
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: the couples makes. Wouldn't you start fantasizing about things that
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: you don't think about how they work in the real world.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I never thought Claire had been while we're going to
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: work now, Dan Leslie. I actually thought they were a
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: really good last each other. I thought that they had
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: they seem to have along with the same interest like
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: personalities that messed really well together. And I thought that
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: they were going to work out like I didn't think
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: that they were going to be running down the eye
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: only any times through. But I certainly thought that they
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: were going to be boyfriend and girlfriend for a while.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: So I was that it ended so quickly. That's pretty
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: much my thoughts on it too. I thought Dean Leslie
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: would be together for a while and think they were
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: each other's forever person. I think he was going to
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: lead to marriage, but I thought it would be maybe
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: maybe become more months um with Claire and Benois. I
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: feel like in a lot of ways Claire and I
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: were in similar oats and I kind of just vibed
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: her um during that live show when she got proposed to,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: and I just think she was like, oh my goodness,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: we are not here yet. And I can just sense.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I could just sense there was a lot of worry
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: there and a lot of doubt, and she just, you know,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: what was she supposed to do? Say no to him
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: on a live on a live TV show. Yeah, I
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: think so yes. I think then you think so yes.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: For you to get his colt up and think that
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: now he's planning this future with her when she had
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: these doubts, just say, you don't have to say a
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: hard now, but maybe like, oh my gosh, it's all
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: the sud, let's think about it. I just don't believe
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: in building people up, you know, just to bring them
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: down when you know you're not sure on what you
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: want to do. Ok, all right, yes, I mean, Rachel,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I I think you're spot on. I think it would
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: be hard. I think it would have made things awkward
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: for the time being, would have clarity to where they're
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: any time, I mean, okay, so that actually I both
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: participated in Winter Games. You're at Winter Games, Rachel, You're
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: closed your situations in the most any time there is
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: a couple announced on a live show and everybody that
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: would participated in the experience is shocked in the audience,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: and then there's the proposal. I say that as an
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: odd way to enter in. I mean, I was surprised
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: that they were even dating. I had no clue that
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: there was even chemistry there. Now, Dina and Leslie are
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: a little different. I got to take a trip with
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: him to Honduras and they kind of had They have
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: this wonderlust. I think that's the right word, right. They
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: have the relationship that we can all look at, or
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: at least I look at, and I'm envious of because
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: they just kind of float through life and they're so
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: into each other and both you know, physically, and you
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: could tell they had a connection on on an emotional level,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: and you just look at him and you say that couple.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know what this looks like long term, but
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: I've never seen any thing like it. Like I've never
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: seen two people so into just each other. But there
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: was that like sense of Okay, this is a good thing.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: This makes sense. But I don't know, and I don't
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: want to speak for Dean Leslie here, but like I
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: think everybody around them thought, Okay, this is either gonna
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: be the absolute greatest relationship of all time and it's
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: gonna be fun and fruitful and multiply and make beautiful
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: children or it's gonna end. We just don't know when.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: And unfortunately it ended. But with all that being said,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, Winter Games was still successful. It brought
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: a bunch of really great people together, and I think
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: it opened up everybody's heart to finding love and and
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I mean that's the beauty of this whole thing. Even
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: if it doesn't work out, at least now you're prepared
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: for a relationship. And actually, I know you know, coming
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: off of Winter Games, you said I learned a lot
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: about myself, just like Rachel was just saying being in
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: a relationship, she learned a lot about herself. Yeah, it's
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: like that necessary stepping stone. I think a lot of
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: us got that out of Winter Games. I want to
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: kind of go back for a second. When he didn't,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: I just say I early, and I think I think
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I have a bit of a different perspective because I
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: didn't watch Bachelor before. And to be honest, it's tiring
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: to me to see the same storyline to play out
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: every season, you know now that I've in it. So
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: when it seems to me the fresh air to just
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: see these different people and cultures coming together and you
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: know what each episode was going to be about. We
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: had no idea because you guys had no idea because
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: we've never seen anything like it before. I thoroughly enjoyed that.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Even when I was participating in it. I had so
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: much fun being there. You're right, I think it was
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: a success. We didn't even go into it knowing what
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: rose ceremonies were going to be like, or like, are
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: there gonna be rose ceremonies and how do we eliminate
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: each other? It was so good. Thinks it will be
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be something, And this is my prediction.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be something that lasts a long time in
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: the back of the world because it's different, and I
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: think they have a lot of ability to be flexed.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: But I'm actually wondering great. So this is my prediction
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: when it comes to Winter Games. Because of the experience
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: we all had and because we saw the format, I
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: think next year they're actually gonna have couples past couples.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Come on. I think you and Brian might make your
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: appearance on Winter Games, and I would recommend you guys
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: doing it because it was really that healthy and that
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: much fun. See, that's what i'd want. I'd really want
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: to see an amazing race like show with former Bachelor couples. Oh,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know, you, I don't love another reality show,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: even if it only taped for twelve days. I know
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: that was that was nice. I don't know. I just
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: don't know. It's just screwed me of your relationship and
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: then you just don't know how it's going to be shown.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: For example, like you heard me say with Claire, and
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: if I were clear and I didn't know, I would
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: have said I don't know. And like the screw we
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: tasted with the Alley, people thought that I did it
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: just to get a ring, and it's like, it's no
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: me for two seconds, you know I'm never going to
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: do something. Yeah, I like that kind of scrutiny. Um,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: I just don't know if I would want to flying
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: and out of space a dance it was depend I mean,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: never say never the jo It's kind of like the
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: couples to do couples therapy after the show and then
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: they're like, UM, okay, wow, way to make our relationship
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: look like something that it's totally not. But we did
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: it for the money, and we did it for the
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: attention and it probably wasn't worth it in the end,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: and that's what I don't want to do. Yeah, Hey, Rachel,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: you mentioned Ari, and we got to talk about it
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: for a second last week actually, and I spoke about
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: just Ari and kind of his progression after the batter
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: and during the bachor and how you can get it
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: and and you understand that, you know, we've both been
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: in it, and sometimes as the lead of the show,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: you can't do anything right no matter what you try
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: to do. But it just felt like Ari did a
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: couple of things that I would have advised him not
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: to do, including his April Fool's joke. Do you have
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: an opinion on that if you don't know about it?
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: He posted a picture claiming that he and Lauren were
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: pregnant and that Lauren was going to have a baby,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: and then it was later foun out to be a
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: joke and people took acceptance too. They did not like it,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: they found it controversial. What is your thoughts? Okay, I
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: thought it was people were a bit we're overacting a bit,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: you know. It's I didn't think it was controversial. I didn't.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I also didn't think it was funny, but that's just me.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: It just didn't make me laugh. But I just I
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: thought people are It's like it's like too sooner. You know,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: people are still upset. You know, people are happy for
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: you because they do look very happy, but people are
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: still upset. And I just think it was just too
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: soon for him to pull off that kind of joke.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: You know, that's donation isn't quite over it yet quite
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: over what happened, And so I think maybe they need
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: to see back up, moved on and happy and think
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: you can make those types of jokes. I like, I
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: like your point of view, Rachel. Thanks thanks for agreeing
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: with us in some way. Also, yeah, right, it was crazy. Yes,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: it was uncreative. It was totally uncreative, totally not timely
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: for them. But I mean, yuys, that was incidive. But
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: it wasn't funny either. It wasn't funny, No, not at all.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: I just I just didn't find No, it was awkward.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: It was That's what I said. I never claim its funny,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Like I get that maybe, like people definitely overreacted, but
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: I also just don't understand like that the joke of it,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Like I'm not confused. Um, before we let you go right, Jill.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Can we end with some fun questions? Oh? I love this. Yeah.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: If you could have any artists perform at your wedding,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: who would it be? Oh my gosh, Well, okay, I
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: know I'm still a quick answer, but I actually always
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: said Print, but he's no longer with its. Um, I
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: would say Justin Bieber. That is a reach for ABC.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: You're gonna have to think more like B list artists
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: than that artist, now right, that's right. I remember going
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: into your season people were talking about how your ultimate
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: celebrity crash is Justin Bieber. I really like dis weever
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: I do got swag? Um? Would you have Chris Harrison
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: officiate the ceremony? Um? It depends, it's it's been Dallas.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: I would have my path to do it. Okay, I
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: think that's very respectable Chris. The second. You know, if
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I were to have a Bachelor wedding, you know who
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: i'd want to appreciate it, Chris Dinner. That's cool. That
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: would be cool. Not very Bachelor related, though. I know
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: they'll let you have your pastor, like Sean Lowe had
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: his dad who's also a he Ben Ben still lot
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: over laughing about this. Ben it's not going to be
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: very funny when I tell you exactly who i'd want
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: to officiate my bachelor wedding, and that would be you.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: I want you to afficiate it. Yeah, thank you know
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: it's funny because her first I don't know how Rachel's
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: initial like second response like they didn't take any time
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: to go Chris Jenner, I know, like she had the
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: answer planned. Actually, I would absolutely love to fish you
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: when that's actually like that means a lot, and we
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: got to talk about that offline. Would Chris Harrison be upset?
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: This is so hypothetical, Um, you know, I don't know. Yeah,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: you have to give him a role in it, and
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: I'm sure he would love to be a part of it.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, your wedding is your day, and I think
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: anybody needs to understand that if anybody's gonna get upset
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: with you for being a little selfish on your wedding day,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: like that's their own problem. And I and we all
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: know Chris enough to know that he's confident enough in
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: himself and his abilities to not be upset if somebody says, hey,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: I have somebody else had like sause it between a
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: little bit more. Yeah, also be that applies for an
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: off camera wedding as well, So would you appreciate my wedding?
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: I would love to act, you know. I'm actually I
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: was ordained I know during my season of the Bachelor,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: and I still am able to get my license. So
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: if if you and Brian wanted to low Rachel in Vegas,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: I think I can still sign the wedding, uh wedding license.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: That is really good to know. That's so awesome. My
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: last question, Rachel is will you take Brian's last name? Yeah,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: so be it won't be haspinatid. I will completely take
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: his lesson. Yeah, I like that too old fashioned? All right, well, Rachel,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: this has been a blast. You've been on here for
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: like half an hour. We appreciate that so much. Thank you, guys. Fine,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: what took me so long, But I'm here next time.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Yes, next time you're gonna like come in studio.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: We'd love to have you baby before of the bachelorret
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: love it all right, Thank you so much. What an incredible,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: incredible guest. Yeah, that was so good. I love it.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: I love I mean. The one thing uh I want
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: to ask her though, uh today is this still cool
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: to have the hashtags for your wedding. Yeah, I think
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: you know why it's cool to have hashtags for your
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: wedding because all the pictures are organized on social media,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: so you can go and look at all your guest
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: pictures with one hashtag. That that makes complete sense. I've
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: always I've always found that creative and I always like
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: to see, like what people come up with. Um I
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: think the Bachelor world needs to get really creative because
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: if if every Bachelor contestant nowadays is a content creator, uh,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: then their content needs to be, you know, on par
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: with what they're stating. And so I'm excited to see
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: what hashtags come out at these future weddings. I don't
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: disagree with Rachel Astley, honestly. I could Seek and Sean,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Jojoe and Jordanary and Lauren, Raven and Adam and Rachel
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: and Briant all getting married this year. And I don't
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: know why these couples wouldn't they've been together a while,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: um Are and Laura. I'd probably recommend taking some time
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: to to take a deep breath. But this could be
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: a eighteen could be a season of weddings for Bachelor nations,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: all right, Well, Ben I actually have a question about
• 39:26
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  Speaker 1: I want to go back to my question. Ben. You've
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  Speaker 1: been talking about how you think all these couples are
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  Speaker 1: ready to get and they're all like most of them
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: are engaged other than Raven and Adam um, and you
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: think they're they're ready to get married this year. That
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: comes that That leads me to my question, which is
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: how long do you think a couple should date? Then
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: how long do you think a couple should be engaged?
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's such a good question. Actually, I
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: mean there's a thousand opinions on this. I mean I
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: have people really close to me who have dated for
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: three months and got married, including my parents. UM, I
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: have people close to me that have dated for nine years.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: I think there is I'm just talking to somebody about
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: this to the day, there is a maximum amount of
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: time that you should date. I think. I think any couple, uh,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: if you're if you're personal decision is that you want
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: to pursue marriage. Now, everybody today is wanting to get married.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: I understand that. Let's let's just assume for a second,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: and when we're talking about this conversation that every couple
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: that we're speaking of wants to get married someday. Okay,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: So if you're wanting to get married and spend your
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: life with somebody and have that partner, then I feel
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: like you both need to make the commitment that life
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: while commitment to each other within a at least a
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: year and a half of dating. I think if you've
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: been together a year and a half, you know if
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: this is the right person for you. Now. I get
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: that certain circumstances and events change that. You know, what,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: if somebody's in the military, maybe aren't able to spend
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: as much time with each other. That's those are unique
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: scenarios and that is down to the invidual person. But UM,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: I do think there's a maximount of time that people
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: should date because I think over time it just gets
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: a little unhealthy, gets a little weird, And I think,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: like it or not, society puts that pressure on us.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: And anytime there's pressure outside pressure on a relationship, that
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: has an effect, even if you like it or not,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: it will have an effect. So to clear up all
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: of that. Unfortunately, we live in a world that expects
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: you to get married pretty quickly, like you might want
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: to do that, especially if you're in love with the
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: person now a minimum amount of time. Um, I mean
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: I feel like that sweet spots like seven months, six
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: or seven months. I think you really get to know
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: the person. You've seen their ups and downs, they've they've
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: hit themselves. You know, they showed you their best side
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: for three months or so. Um, but that's six seven months. Rangel.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Really good an idea. And how cool is it when
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: you can look at somebody after like seven months and say,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: I'm so in love with you, like I so get this,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: I get who you are now, and I want to
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: spend my life with you. That's a moment we can
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: all look forward to now. For me, the only time
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: I've ever done that was after a few months, and
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if I ever been that either.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: This is definitely a good topic for us to discuss
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: further in some other episode. I also think that long
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: engagements usually end up being confusing because you're like, oh,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: is this just an extension of dating or is this
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: just our period of time to plan our wedding? And
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: I think it should actually kind of just be that
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: period of time to plan your wedding. Yeah, that is
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: that is a great, a great statement. But you actually,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: I think that engagement period is that next step to
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: where you're no longer dating each other. You are starting
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: to have those conversations that are like planning a life
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: to what's the ready gonna look like, where we're gonna move.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Can we start like figuring out strategically how our finances
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: are going to match up? You know, where does your debt?
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Where's your debt act? And I can I help pay
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: you out? Like totally starts to happen. Um, I'm actually
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: really interested about this. It's a conversation has been coming
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: up a lot I'd love to hear from our listeners.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: I think this is a great listener question. Uh So,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: anybody out there listening, Even it's a nice little short email,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: would be awesome to to hear from you, or maybe
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: a review online on the I heart app. But if
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: you're listening and you have an opinion on this, uh,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: please email us at Ben and Ashley at i heart
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: media dot com. We really do want to hear from you,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: even if it's a sentence or two. Please let us
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: know your thoughts on kind of what's the time frame
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: for dating an engagement? It shouldn't be, you know, quicker
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: or longer? What's up? I need help with that. I
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: think actually does too. Yeah, and I'd love to ask
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: our guest Sarah Herron because she just celebrated her one
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: year anniversary with her boyfriend. UM. Sarah is on the
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: line and we've gotten her quest to have Sarah on UM.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: This was from Kathy a couple of weeks ago. Uh, Sarah,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: are you on? Yes, I'm here. I'm going to read
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: this to you. This is from Kathy, says Hi Been
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: and Ashley. I love the crap out of both of you,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: but could you please get Sarah Herron on for an
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: update on her love life and life in general. Please.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: I'm so happy that she's finally found her prince charming.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: I could never understand how she was never chosen to
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: be the bachelorette. I think that she's one of the
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: bravest and classiest women I've ever witnessed. And can you
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: just tell her that she has a beautiful and generous soul,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Kathy maybe, Oh my gosh, that's the nicest messode ever.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: That's so sweet. So welcome to the podcast. Sometimes I
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: come to this podcast and actually says that kind of
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: stuff about me, and it always makes me feel good.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: But Sarah, I'm glad we could welcome you with that
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: kind of Oh my god, thank you. I know, I'm
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: so excited to be on with you guys today, Like,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, what anather. Sarah. So you've been with
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: your boyfriend for just about a year now, congratulations. Thanks.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: I know I never thought it was happened. Don't say
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: that you're only you're You're just you're going to turn
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: thirty one soon. I did turn thirty one. Yeah, so yeah,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: I know. It's it's amazing. Though we lived together, um
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: we I lived to his town of Carbondale, Colorado, which
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: is like the tiniest town in the whole world. I
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: think population in four thousands. So going from Los Angeles
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: this tiny mountain town is crazy, but it's so nice.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: So what how did you guys meet? Everybody loves to
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: meet stories, you gotta tell us. Yeah, So, Dylan is
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: a photographer director and I was hosting my very first
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: shelift retreat here in Ascent, and I was looking for
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: a local UM photographer to come in and help with
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: the retreat. It was five days, and so he was
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: referred to me by an old colleague from my days
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: in advertising, and he joined us for five days with
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: UM you know, seven young women that had physical friends,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: and I think it just brought out this amazing, like
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: compassionate side of him that I got to see, as
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: you know, the he was the only male and a
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: roomful of women for five days, and I just my
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: heart melted for him and I fell for him. And
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: by the end of the retreat he asked me out
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: on a date. It's we've been like attached to the
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: hip ever since. You wrote an amazing Instagram caption for
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: your first anniversary. It was so touching. Can you briefly
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: describe to everyone what what Dylan makes you feel and
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: how he's changed you for the better. Yeah, well, I
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: mean he's I was always just looking for somebody that um,
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: you know, accepted me for who I was, but challenged
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: me to be better. Kind of all the cliche things
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: that people have always said, but I never really felt
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: it until I met Dylan. And he just makes me
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: feel confident in who I am, and you know, he
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: just supports me and everything that I do, and I'm
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: so I'm so so grateful for his support and love
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: every day. So sweet you he helps you, but you
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: help a ton of other girls out there with your
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Sheilaft program, and I think you're starting a podcast about it.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: I am, um, yeah, I'm really excited starting a podcast,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: but I am like currently recording from my closet because yeah,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: because I'm like so low, but um, but I'm really
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: excited to do it and we're gonna have amazing guests
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: on the premise is to introduce um, women that I
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: am friends with or look up to who are using
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: their projects or platforms for change in creativity and connection.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: So really it's just giving voice to everyday women who
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: are overcoming obstacles and helping women listeners and men who
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: love women feel um, you know, sense of connection and
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: community through other people's challenges. How can our listeners go
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: and help the Sheila found a um. Anyone can visit
• 50:03
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• 50:06
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• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Graham and I'm constantly pushing information now through my personal
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: Instagram and news letter, so there's never a shortage of information. Alright, Sarah,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: wish we had more time with you. We will have
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: you back on soon when you're podcasting, when your podcast
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: officially launches. It hasn't officially launched yet, right, thank you
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: know it'll be May all right. You let us know
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: when and we will make sure to plug it here
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: on the Almost His podcast. We love you so much.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: We're so glad that you have this amazing organization and
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: an amazing man. Doesn't everything in life come together at thirty?
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: It really does. Just wait till thirty. It's the best. Yes,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: it really is good. All right, thanks, Sarah, I will
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: talk to you soon, you gu I mean it's so
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: good sometimes, I mean, I feel like this has been
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: a really good podcast, kind for me to hear. We've
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: had Rachel on who is confident, well spoken, uh engaged
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: in a relationship that just seems healthy and fruitful. And uh,
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: you know, we've gotten to now talk to Sarah Herron,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: who I got to actually meet her family on Easter
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: at the golf course and yeah, I ran into her
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: family and they were so proud of Sarah and they're
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: so proud of the stuff that she's doing. A few
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: years ago I was able to uh get to know
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: more about the she Lift organization, and it really is
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: incredible that she's doing. And not only is it one
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: of those causes that meaningful and doing a great thing
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: in the world, but it's a lot of fun to
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: participate in, right. I mean, she's literally doing these really
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: cool adventure activities, uh with with people all around the US.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: And so if anybody's out there kind of like, hey,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: I just need to mixed life up a bit. I
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: want to volunteer with an organization that that kind of
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: shakes up the world not only for good but also
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: just for adventure. I really think she left it would
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: be a great organization for you to reach out to,
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: So please do that. UM. It's it's awesome to hear
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: people like Sarah taking um, taking life and really molding
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: it into something that's not only good. UM, but something
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: that she's passionate about. It's so awesome and with all
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: that beautiful sounding stuff, it is time for Ben bitches.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I mean I have a good one
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: to day actually, and I'm up. I'm not happy. I'm annoyed. Ben.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Some people think that you're handing it up and you're
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: acting when you do this. I'm always this angry. Okay.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: So I just spent the last week with my father
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: at the Master and the one thing about the Masters
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: that really stood out to me was the simplicity, how
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: everybody was equals, how new nobody could could see the
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: hierarchy of of society when it comes to the Masters.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: Everybody's on equal playing Uh, we're watching golfers play golf,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: and it hit me one thing that I wasn't missing
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: was the fact anybody out there was trying to impress
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: anybody else. I'm upset today because I've been around people
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: the one upper. Do you know about the one uppers? Actually,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: we all know them. And if you if you don't
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: know a one upper, then you might want to look
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: internally on yourself because you might be that one upper,
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: might be that constantly wants to bring others down. To
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: lift each other or to lift you up right. I mean,
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: how many times have you been in a conversation like, Okay,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: for example, the one with Sarah Herron right here, she's
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: doing an amazing, amazing thing. Some people out there, the
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: one uppers out there, would have looked at Sarah hairing
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: or for case to podcast so spoken to Sarah Harris instead, Sarah,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: it's great that you're doing that, but listen to what
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: I'm doing, and they would come up with something that
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: sounds a little bit better, a little bit twisted, a
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: little bit more generous or philanthropic in nature. And you
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: know what that would done. That was shot right through
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: Sarah's heart. It would have demoralized the passion and the
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: purpose at which he's pursuing this mission. And that's unfair
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: to Sara, and it's unfair to any of us out there.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: So I'm bitching today to anybody listening to say, if
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: you're that one upper, take a step back, humble yourself
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: to the world, understand that nobody is bigger or greater
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: than anybody else out there, that we're all equals. Then
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: we all have a responsibility to do good. We all
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: have a responsibility to serve each other. We all have
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: a responsibility to pursue our purposes and passions in this world.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: But I'm telling you right now, if you're pursuing your person,
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: your purposes and passions, to tell everybody else about it.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Take a sip, seat down, step away. I don't want
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: to hear it. Okay, I have to admit I'm a
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: one upper when it comes to boy band stories. When
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: people are like, oh my god, podcast successf people are like,
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm such a huge trailing you don't
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: even know. My room looked like I was like I
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: was in Bop Star and Bop Magazine because my room
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: was so crazy. And it's like I went to like
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: five of their concerts. I was like, I went to
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: twenty seven of their concerts, and it's like, oh my gosh,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: this is one time I met them. I'm like, I've
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: been friends with them and I've been on their tour
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: bus and the worst. But only when it comes to
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: boy band stories, they're like, oh my gosh, I gotta
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: tell you this. I'm like, okay, that's great, but only
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: when it comes sorry, I'm sorry, I feel like you.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe this is going to come off incredibly. Ps,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: I feel like you want upping. Anybody on boy band
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: Stories actually does has the opposite effect. When anybody hears it,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: sounds like you're embarrassing yourself. No, because boy band fans there,
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't think that. They would just think that was
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: really cool. I know it depends on who your person is.
• 55:55
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• 55:58
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• 58:58
  Speaker 1: or listener emails right now, and I have a couple
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: of questions Actually, I'm sure you're familiar with this. I
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: had no idea. This was a shock to me. And
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: I've been in this world for a while. I'm gonna
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: read an email from Sarah Sarah's emails titled get Holly
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: and Blake on and I was reading through this. Who
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: is Holly? I've been looking through this too, and I
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: thought the exact same. Apparently there's another successful Bachelor couple
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: of we have no idea about them all, and we've
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: never talked about it. This email, and and we're gonna
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: have him on the podcast. We're gonna find him, track
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: him down. They've got to get their their moment, uh
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: to to talk to us. We've got our gunner moment
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: to talk to them. That sided, uh, kind of kind
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: of weird on my part. Okay, it says how I've
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: been in Ashley. I'm just curious. We always talked about
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: the successful Bachelor franchise couples. Yes we do. This includes
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: The Bachelor, the Bachelor at and the Bachelor in Paradise,
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: But we never talked about the one successful Bachelor pag couple,
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: Holly and Blake Julian. Can we get them on a segment?
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: Who the heck? Are you. I loved watching them on
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: Bachelor Pad. I'm gonna love to know what they're up
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: to now. Thanks guys, love the show. Keep up the
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: good work. Sarah Hoffman, I'm telling you I had no
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: clue there. Actually, how haven't we been corrected on this before?
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: We've talked about the success couples a zillion times. Nobody's
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: ever said what about Holly and Blake before we've been
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: on air for a year. I agree, we get criticized
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: and corrected on everything moving my grandpa, but we've never
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: gotten corrected on the fact that there's another successful But
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I believe it. And I like
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: the way that well, I don't like the way it's
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: just it says it's Holly and Blake Julian as if
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: they're married. There's another Bachelor married couple. Yeah, they're married.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: I looked him up. No way, I promise, this is craziness.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised you didn't know. I read this, and I thought, oh,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: actually can carry this this email because she'll know me
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: because boys in the back. I would have I would
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: have corrected our ourselves as Zilian times. If I had known.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: I never watched Bachelor Patt, I wonder what season they
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: came out of. Well, guys, this is our on our
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: priority list. We are hoping to get Blake in Holly
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: on next week craziness. Should we move on? Yeah? I
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: mean I have nothing else to say on the fact that.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: Thanks Sarah, like we had no clue. Yeah, thanks Sarah. Okay,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: I have a question. We have a good email for you, Ben. Oh, actually,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: I would love there's so many good emails today. Okay,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: I'm going to read this one first for you, Ben,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: Term Jenna, Dear Ashley and Ben. This question is mainly
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: for Ben. I'm twenty nine and I have been back
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: in the dating pool for about six months after a
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: pretty serious relationship. I have a huge heart for Jesus
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: and I've always thought it was very important that my
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: partner and I share that quality. However, I find that
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: the guys that I have been dating recently do not
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: feel the same way. And it's quality, and it's a
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: quality that's tough to find unless I date within my church. Ben,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: is it a deal breaker for you if a girl
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: doesn't share the same faith as you? How do you
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: broach the subject of faith in a new dating relationship
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: and how do you handle ending things with somebody that
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: ultimately you don't think you could be with for the
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: rest of your life because of their beliefs. Do you
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: think it's possible to overcome this difference? I love the
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: podcast Guys, keep doing you Genia. It's a great question,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: and that's one that I mean, we can do a
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: whole podcast on this. Let me start just by kind
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: of breaking it down. UM. I've dated people do not
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: believe the same things as I do, uh, and had
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: very healthy, successful relationships in that I mean, they weren't
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: ultimately successful in the end, but they were they were fruitful. Uh.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: And in the time that I had them. However, I
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: found myself when it came to the harder issues of
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: of relationships, we weren't communicating because we weren't coming from
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: the same place. So I'm going to come from a
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: place that I'm grounded, uh and uh the who Jesus
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: was and what the Bible says and kind of the
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: wisdom that I get from my face system, my my
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: belief system, because I believe it's true. I'm not a
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: Christian just because it's what I grew up, but I
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: believe that that is uh, the truth of the world.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: And so if my truth is different than my partner's truth,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: then ultimately coming together and the compromise is going to
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: be very difficult. And it it proves to be difficult
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: from everywhere too, from any questions on how we're gonna
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: raise our kids to uh, you know, how we're going
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: to spend our time in the evening, and then how
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: do we deal with um difficult circumstances. Are we gonna
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: pray through it? Are we going to support people? And also,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: you know, one of the biggest things that came in
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: my life is uh, you know, I get a lot
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: of credit and and and it's unnecessary credit because of
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: the things that I participated in life. When it comes
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: to philanthropy or specks of service, I only do those
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: because I believe that I was called and to do
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: that by Jesus. And so I believe that as my
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: calling and that as my purpose on life. You know,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: not all, not always is that come from a really
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: pure placed in my heart. I do it because I
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: believe that through service will find the most joy. And
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: I also believe that through service that was our our
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: intent on being on earth. And so if my partner
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: doesn't believe in service, and that's how I'm spending most
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: of my time. Then there's gonna be a dilemma, and
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: that dilemma is gonna hurt, and it's gonna hurt both people.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: So I think from that perspective, when it comes with
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: dealing with situations, yes, it's important to have somebody of
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: the same same faith, UM, when it comes to just
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: the moral and ethical issue, or maybe just faith issue,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: I should you deal with be with somebody that has
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: the same faith. I would recommend it. I think it's
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: gonna add more depth to a relationship when you when
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: the two people are coming from a similar worldview. I
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: believe it's gonna add um more life to to the
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: events and and the things that you're pursuing as a couple.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: But the question here that I really want to finish
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: this with um is how do you broach the subject
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: of faith in a new dating relationship ship? I do
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: it right away. Uh, it's my first date conversation. It's
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: who are you? You know? What are you? What makes
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: you you? If I was to sit down on a
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: date with you, Ashley, I and we you know obviously
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: this this sounds weird and almost like interrogative, but it's
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: not you know, through a conversation. My goal in the
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: first date is to let you have your time to
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: tell me who you are and what makes you you
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: tell me tell me at a very service of We
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: don't have to get into the details and the grid.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: But I want to know what makes Ashley I Ashley I?
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: What what makes you tick? What's your belief system? Because
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: the truth isn't all of this, and I think we're
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: living in a time that's exciting for this. UM. I
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: want to date people within my faith, but it doesn't
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: mean that I have to be exclusive to anybody else.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: Of opposite things. We're in a very inclusive time period,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: but we're dealing and and friends being friends and building
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: relationships with people of all sorts of world views, and
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: I think that's a beautiful thing. But it's also something
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: that we shouldn't make taboo, just like we shouldn't make
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: sex taboo or drug you know, your your addictions taboo.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: I think faith is something that we should talk about openly.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: What are you ashamed of if it's what you believe,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: it's what you believe, if that's the truth that you
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: believe the world operates on speak about it, talk about it,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: share that love, share that purpose, share that service. And
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: so what better first date conversation? Then what's your truth?
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: What do you believe him? Because I want to hear it.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: I want to hear it. I want to know about
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: your experiences asking girls like that on the first date.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: Does it freak them out? Uh? It has? And I
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: don't know if it freaks them out, but you can
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: definitely tell the ones that maybe have had it insecurity
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: or you know. The church unfortunately has hurt a lot
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: of people, especially in this generation. The church was misrepresented
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: by a lot of people that were a part of
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: the church. And so sometimes Uh, in this generation, people
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: have stories from their experiences in the church that hurt
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: them deeply, and they're scared to talk about it, and
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: and and it brings up a most sins that they're
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: not ready to talk about. That's fine, we have to
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: talk about there. But it allows me to have a
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: better perspective about where they're coming from. And those are
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: unique situations where I'm not gonna then say, Okay, sorry,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: we can't date because the churches hurt you at some level,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: Like that's ridiculous, like not at all. But the ones
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  Speaker 1: that are more open. I think it's refreshing for me
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  Speaker 1: and I find that a quality that I am attracted to.
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  Speaker 1: I guess so if if say everything else equal, there's
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  Speaker 1: been no pain cause from religion, which a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people have felt pain from religion, and it's just the
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  Speaker 1: conversation topic and the person kind of pulls back, like, yoh,
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  Speaker 1: I don't really want to talk about that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And it's just because they're they're not very a very
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  Speaker 1: The one thing about The Bachelor, though, that's unique, is
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  Speaker 1: everybody I would assume most of the women that were
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  Speaker 1: knew where I was coming from. I didn't necessarily know
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  Speaker 1: where they were coming from, and it never really did
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  Speaker 1: make care. No, but most of the conversation is now
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  Speaker 1: the first nights a little different because you get about
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  Speaker 1: five minutes. And I think that's a pretty heavy question,
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  Speaker 1: but I do believe my most common question on the
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  Speaker 1: first night, uh, and might go to with everybody was
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  Speaker 1: what makes you you? Like, tell me about yourself because
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  Speaker 1: I want to know it. And we don't have a
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  Speaker 1: lot of time here, so relax, take a look around,
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  Speaker 1: get comfortable this environment, but try to block everything out
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  Speaker 1: and just tell me what makes you you. So if
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  Speaker 1: a girl doesn't mention religion and what makes you you,
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  Speaker 1: is that a red flag to you that that maybe
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  Speaker 1: that isn't a huge part of her life. No, I
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  Speaker 1: would probably follow up with a question just and I
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• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: directly ask that because I get that in the in
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: the first day, everybody's nervous. You're not going to answer
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  Speaker 1: the questions like perfectly, you know, on both sides. And
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  Speaker 1: so I think that's the part of the date that
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  Speaker 1: each other to dig into what's making you know, help
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  Speaker 1: follow ups because I don't want to be with somebody
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  Speaker 1: that's like, oh, yeah, you know that whole Jesus thing.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't see it, you know. I don't get it,
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  Speaker 1: Like I've studied it, just not for me. Like that
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• 1:09:18
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