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I Can See Clare-ly · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with our radio. Actually, there is a lot to talk
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  Speaker 1: about today. Are you ready for this? I'm stoked, dude.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be awesome Ashley. There's a lot of hot topics.
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  Speaker 1: We also have a whole episode to break down, and
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  Speaker 1: we have a really special guest who I believe, uh,
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  Speaker 1: whose life's changed quite a bit here in the last year.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm yep. We have Cordy Robertson coming on to
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  Speaker 1: talk about her baby and very new marriage. And we
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  Speaker 1: also have a Bachelor super fan and Gray's Anatomy alum,
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  Speaker 1: Marika doman Check. Uh. Let's start out by saying, this
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  Speaker 1: episode of the Bachelorette was one that I actually didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to end, Like I was like, how many more
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  Speaker 1: minutes do I have left? Oh? I only have twenty
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  Speaker 1: more minutes left, Like I was really just wanting it
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  Speaker 1: to be longer and longer. That means we have a
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  Speaker 1: lot to talk about today. Uh, it's gonna say that
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  Speaker 1: we'll save that for Marika. And now I would love
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  Speaker 1: to get into hot topics because we've got some juicy ones.
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  Speaker 1: Let's start with this one. This has been a bachel
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  Speaker 1: Nation headline all week long. Yes, we saw in the
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  Speaker 1: first episode a little disagreement between Tyler Ce and Joseph. Well,
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  Speaker 1: as the weeks have continued, Joseph has continued to be
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  Speaker 1: a storyline on the show, but he's also making stories
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  Speaker 1: off of the show. Here's the headline. TikTok video spark
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  Speaker 1: rumors about Bachelorette villain Joseph This according to The New
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  Speaker 1: York Post. You could also just go on TikTok and
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  Speaker 1: see what was posted by Carly Hammond on October. She
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  Speaker 1: is the woman that, well allegedly but like pretty much
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  Speaker 1: I can certainly say is the guy. Is the woman
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  Speaker 1: that Tyler C was alleging that Joseph was dating back
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  Speaker 1: home right before The Bachelorette started filming. So this woman, Carly,
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  Speaker 1: she gets on her TikTok and she says that she
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  Speaker 1: had been facetiming talking for hours with Joseph, speaking about
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  Speaker 1: having a family, with him getting married and having kids
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  Speaker 1: one day and then um, he came to visit her,
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  Speaker 1: just as Tyler she was the first episode. Doesn't this
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of comments and a lot of opinions
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  Speaker 1: about this story, right, but can we just say that
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  Speaker 1: this timeline feels a little off, like we're talking about
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  Speaker 1: a family and kids together, and then he comes to
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  Speaker 1: visit Like I was like, then, why are you laughing?
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  Speaker 1: And then I was like, oh yeah, okay, so all
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  Speaker 1: those conversations happened before they even met face to face. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like, that's not my style. But we'll continue
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  Speaker 1: with her story here. So she says that he did
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  Speaker 1: come to visit her in person, and oh he was visiting.
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  Speaker 1: He on his foot. Okay, okay, this is how it goes. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So while he was visiting, she ends up getting a
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  Speaker 1: video to her phone of him. We may have to
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  Speaker 1: beat this out because we are pretty much a PGPG
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  Speaker 1: thirteen podcast. Um, he was being off in this video
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  Speaker 1: to another girl, sending it to another girl and talking
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  Speaker 1: about how he wanted to have sex with this other
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  Speaker 1: girl and this is apparently happening at Carly's house. Um.
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  Speaker 1: And then she also posted another TikTok showing messages that, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, dirty messages from from Yosef or allegedly Yosa
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  Speaker 1: whatever you want to say. And then um, he like
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  Speaker 1: blocked her on social media and stuff when she called
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  Speaker 1: him out on having sent this dirty video. To another woman,
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  Speaker 1: like as if like you could just erase their relationship.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well let's start here. Did you guys follow that, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: let's start here. Now. I have been proved time and
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  Speaker 1: time again that I'm out of touch with the common,
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  Speaker 1: most modern ways of dating, and you know, I think
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  Speaker 1: still out of touch with how to how to communicate
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  Speaker 1: these days. Like that's the I don't think that's the
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  Speaker 1: most interesting part of the story. I think the most
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  Speaker 1: interesting part of the story is the fact that, like
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  Speaker 1: he's talking about having a family with this girl while
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  Speaker 1: at the same time communicating to other girls and sending
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  Speaker 1: this video like that's worth Like I don't. I don't
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  Speaker 1: necessarily have an opinion on what the video was or
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  Speaker 1: what it wasn't I I don't, But either way, he
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  Speaker 1: was sending some type of signal to somebody else that
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  Speaker 1: he was into them or desiring them at some level.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't think this is as big as story. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: tell me if you think I'm wrong, Okay, you don't
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  Speaker 1: think it's that big of a story. No, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's a huge story because she gets on TikTok and
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  Speaker 1: she does this and she else him. Now, this is
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  Speaker 1: gonna happen. I mean, it's gonna have to keep everybody
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  Speaker 1: a lot more accountable to how they're communicating with others.
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  Speaker 1: That's one piece of social media will definitely expose the truth.
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  Speaker 1: But the I think this isn't as big of a
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  Speaker 1: story if he isn't also the moral police on this
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  Speaker 1: season there at like that's I think that is where
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  Speaker 1: this goes. We're going to address that whole scene later
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  Speaker 1: in this episode between Joseph and Claire where he calls
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  Speaker 1: Claire class lists. Everything is absolutely appalling, like he would
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  Speaker 1: never want her to be the mother of his child.
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  Speaker 1: He's constantly throwing out the I have a daughter card.
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  Speaker 1: So Carly Hammond's her first name is Carly, right her
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  Speaker 1: her TikTok's blew up. They went viral. I mean they're everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: Her kind of exposing him, for lack of a better term,
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  Speaker 1: um really worked well. I mean, this thing is everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: It's going crazy. I'm sure Joseph feels it and and
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  Speaker 1: and knows the kind of the heat coming down. We
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  Speaker 1: did ask for a comment by Carl. We didn't get one,
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  Speaker 1: but hey, I think this is uh, this is one
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  Speaker 1: of those things you gotta keep yourself clean, and so
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  Speaker 1: here's my comment as Tyler, was Tyler ce unfairly let go?
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  Speaker 1: Then maybe I mean no, I don't think we needed
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  Speaker 1: Tyler back because he did start the drama on night
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  Speaker 1: one and I was like, why is this guy even
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  Speaker 1: starting things? But I did. I think we both kind
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  Speaker 1: of knew that when he brought that up, or like,
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  Speaker 1: both of these guys are probably instigators. They probably aren't
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  Speaker 1: going to stick around that long. And the whole reason
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  Speaker 1: that Joseph is probably going to stick around is because
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  Speaker 1: he's probably the more villain is villain here. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: just a rough scenario for for Tyler Cee. The poor
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  Speaker 1: guy got sent home for a week. He kind of
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  Speaker 1: looks like a jerk. And now we're going to see
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  Speaker 1: you were on is something because he probably I wonder
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  Speaker 1: how much of this he knew, Like I wonder if
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  Speaker 1: he was like actually trying to be cautious of how
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  Speaker 1: much he was sharing, so he wasn't on the show
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  Speaker 1: being like, hey, I know, I know there's a video
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  Speaker 1: out there, Joseph of you doing things to yourself and like,
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  Speaker 1: I know, I know all this, but I'm all I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna say is that you were flirting with and investing
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  Speaker 1: into a relationship with somebody. I know, yes, you're right,
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  Speaker 1: he may have been being a gentleman and being censored
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  Speaker 1: instead of saying, hey, you're whacking off in a video.
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  Speaker 1: I think so right. I mean, come on, that's just
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  Speaker 1: absolutely because in that case, you know, listening to this TikTok,
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking maybe that was worthy of bringing up Night
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  Speaker 1: one as a red flag. Yeah. I mean, let's move
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  Speaker 1: on to our next Claire related hot topic. One topic
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  Speaker 1: that feels like it happened so long ago, but it
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  Speaker 1: really wasn't. It's been within this week, but there's been
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  Speaker 1: so many headlines in batter nation. This is when we
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  Speaker 1: have to mention bachelor atte. Claire Crawley fires back. It
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  Speaker 1: claims she lied about not attending prom. This according to
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  Speaker 1: page six. Okay, so this woman got on Instagram last
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  Speaker 1: week and said, um, okay, Claire, you're lying basically about
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  Speaker 1: taking about not going to prom, as she mentioned during
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  Speaker 1: the episode, because my quote quote, my husband took Claire
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  Speaker 1: Crawley too. Senior prom. At Claire Crawley, you went to prom.
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  Speaker 1: Hashtag bachelorette, hashtag Claire Crawley, hashtag senior ball. She wanted
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  Speaker 1: people to see this. She also hashtag hot husband UM,
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  Speaker 1: and she also continued to say, um, Claire went to
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  Speaker 1: an all girls school or um comments by celebs who
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  Speaker 1: reposted this and brought attention to it, they have a
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  Speaker 1: lot of followers. They said, no, Claire went to an
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  Speaker 1: all girls school. This husband went to an all boys school.
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  Speaker 1: You can call it what you want, senior ball, senior prom.
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  Speaker 1: It took place in the spring. But later on this
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  Speaker 1: wife of the husband, she did put out a message
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  Speaker 1: apologizing UM for jumping to conclusions. So I mean Claire
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  Speaker 1: had said, hey, I went to a dance. I just
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  Speaker 1: didn't got to go to prom. You know semantics here,
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  Speaker 1: like I don't really know what's what. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what the ball is compared to prom or whatever. However,
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  Speaker 1: the lady did apologize and say, hey, I was wrong
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  Speaker 1: for doing this. Here's my take from the story, and
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  Speaker 1: you tell me what yours is. Be careful before you
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  Speaker 1: speak like Claire Claire is a public figure. You were
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  Speaker 1: somebody at home. Um. You post this picture to try
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  Speaker 1: to what like call her a liar, to make people
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  Speaker 1: question her integrity, and then it gets spread around before
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  Speaker 1: she has a moment to defend herself and then you
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  Speaker 1: have to retract your post by saying, yeah, I was
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  Speaker 1: actually wrong. Claire's right, like, let's all be careful with
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  Speaker 1: what we say about people and how we try to
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  Speaker 1: again expose people, because it does have an impact. Like
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  Speaker 1: people were talking about this for a week. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: wonder if, like why this lady didn't ask her husband
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  Speaker 1: specifically what dance this was and that she to point
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  Speaker 1: out what Claire says. So Claire says, you do know
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  Speaker 1: there's more dances in high school that are not prom.
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  Speaker 1: Turns out it's just someone digging up old photos. Ps.
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  Speaker 1: Why is she keeping her husband's old dance photos? I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure? She says, Um, I went to a new
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  Speaker 1: school senior year, and I did, in fact, not to
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  Speaker 1: go to prom. So I think my biggest question here is, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: why did this lady one not ask her husband her
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  Speaker 1: hot husband details before posting this on Instagram? And secondly,
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  Speaker 1: why is she keeping these photos around? And like just
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  Speaker 1: had she's just like, oh click, can't believe Claire just
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  Speaker 1: said that on the show. I can't wait to open
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  Speaker 1: up the old photo album and and blast this out
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  Speaker 1: to the internet. It's weird. Makes her look like jealous.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I mean I can see how
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  Speaker 1: this plays out. I don't know the story, but like,
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  Speaker 1: I can see where you've had these photos saved up somehow,
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  Speaker 1: some way. Claire is on the first season of The
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor and the husband goes, oh, I know Claire, Actually
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  Speaker 1: I went to prom with her, and they pull he
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  Speaker 1: goes out and like finds that picture and then they've
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  Speaker 1: just like had it like somewhere accessible because they tell
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  Speaker 1: their friends about how he went to prom or he
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  Speaker 1: went to a dance with Claire, and so it's I
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  Speaker 1: can see how this happened. Okay, find you're right. I
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  Speaker 1: can see you're right. If Jared went to prom with Wow,
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  Speaker 1: well you had to go with Olivia, the most beautiful
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  Speaker 1: birds in the entire world that it actually could have
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  Speaker 1: made sense with because they live only towns apart. Uh. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: But if if Jared did go to prom with Olivia,
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  Speaker 1: I would actually show everybody and you would hold on
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  Speaker 1: the picture. I'm so sorry. Yeah, I would totally hold
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  Speaker 1: off the picture. I'm Jared, I'm sorry you ended up
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  Speaker 1: with me. Yeah, no, that's not true. Ah, so you're beautiful,
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  Speaker 1: But I I can see how this plays out that
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  Speaker 1: that part isn't concerning. I'm just saying, hey, be careful
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  Speaker 1: before you speak, because this big did become a story,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe, just possibly, this lady who posted it didn't
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  Speaker 1: realize how big of a story this could become. Like
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  Speaker 1: she thought, oh, some people will see this, this will
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  Speaker 1: get some last of my friends. Whatever. Well the story,
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  Speaker 1: the story goes viral and everybody's talking about enshowing this picture.
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  Speaker 1: And then she's like, holy cow, I need to retract
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  Speaker 1: this because until you're in it, you don't realize the
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  Speaker 1: power of social media, and it got out of control fast. Well,
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  Speaker 1: she did retract a statement it's true that Claire didn't
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  Speaker 1: go to prom. And then we move on to Dale Moss. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the Bachelor ats Dale Moss has something to say about
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  Speaker 1: those city modeling photos. This according to Bustle Ashley for
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  Speaker 1: those who have no clue what this aline is even
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  Speaker 1: about explained, please you guys just type in Dale Moss
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  Speaker 1: party City. So now that people are at party City
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  Speaker 1: and trying to shop for Halloween costumes, some people have
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  Speaker 1: come across the fact that Dale has modeled for um
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  Speaker 1: costumes for Superman. A Roman A Roman sent you know,
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  Speaker 1: a Roman Warrior and even a taco. So if you
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  Speaker 1: go online, you can see Dale as a taco. Funny
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  Speaker 1: pun Del Taco for all you know, Dale Taco, for
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  Speaker 1: Dale Taco, for all you California people out there who
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  Speaker 1: love a good Del Taco. Uh So, I think people
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  Speaker 1: thought that this would embarrass Dale, but he's leaning into it.
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  Speaker 1: He's saying he loves it. He says, read your contracts kids,
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  Speaker 1: the Wing place. It could be worse. I think he
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  Speaker 1: means that they're still using these pictures even though they
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  Speaker 1: were taken a while back. But I think he's having
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  Speaker 1: a sense of humor about it, and I like that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's funny. I mean it's it's just like a funny find.
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  Speaker 1: I can't imagine the person that I found it first.
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  Speaker 1: But uh, onto a bigger topic, I think, other than
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  Speaker 1: dressing up in costumes, which hey, I hope you all
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  Speaker 1: get to do and have a lot of fun doing it. Here.
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  Speaker 1: In the next week, Becka Kuffin reveals whether she thinks
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  Speaker 1: the Bachelor franchise works after the split with Garrett. This
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  Speaker 1: according to US Weekly. Yes, Becca says that she found
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  Speaker 1: love in her friendships. She says this in a photo
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  Speaker 1: with her friend Caroline from Ori season. But a source
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  Speaker 1: is also exclusively telling Us Weekly that Becca is really
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  Speaker 1: broken up about her breakup with Garrett. She said that, um,
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  Speaker 1: she thought Garrett was her person forever. But that being said,
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  Speaker 1: she also said on an episode of the Happy Hour
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  Speaker 1: podcast this week that a little part of her is
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: kind of excited to see which of these cast offs
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  Speaker 1: from Claire Slash Taitia's season will be ingle and um,
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  Speaker 1: maybe mingling with her in the upcoming months. I get
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: to spend a lot of time with Becca, and um,
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  Speaker 1: she's fantastic, and I mean she's gonna be She's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be fine, Like she is a catch at every level. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but it has to be a weird time, Like I
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: remember this season where you're just recently broken up and
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  Speaker 1: everybody's talking about it and everybody knows about it. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but it's good to hear, you know what it's And
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  Speaker 1: I just hear that. And you know what excites me
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  Speaker 1: about Becca as a friend is that she's excited about dating.
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  Speaker 1: Like she's saying, Hey, I'm I'm looking forward to seeing
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  Speaker 1: who's out there because I'm single. Now that's a good sign,
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  Speaker 1: Like I think that's a sign of being healthy and
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  Speaker 1: ready to move on, and um, I wish that for
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  Speaker 1: Becca's a great a great friend. Well onto a girl
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: from my season, Um, Kayla Quinn Bachelor's Kayla Quinn decides
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  Speaker 1: to cancel her wedding uh to Nick Barrello amid the
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  Speaker 1: coronavirus pandemic. This according to US Weekly, it's too bad.
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  Speaker 1: They've dated for a while. Actually, what do you know
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  Speaker 1: about this? They were planning on tying the not in
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  Speaker 1: Italy this coming May, but they wanted to like have
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  Speaker 1: a deadline. They didn't want to be one of those
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: people that just canceled their wedding last minutes. They wanted
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  Speaker 1: to decide what they were going to do by January.
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  Speaker 1: But she talked to her dad, she says, and because
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  Speaker 1: of travel being so limited to Europe, they decided to
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  Speaker 1: cancel it. And as of right now, according to this article,
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  Speaker 1: they don't have any future day planned. Now. This headline
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  Speaker 1: is a little bit misleading, though, like there's still it
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  Speaker 1: sounds happily engaged just way the option and said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we're not going to do the wedding like we thought
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  Speaker 1: we were. It's not worth it for us. Um, and
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  Speaker 1: so they're just moving on. But they're still together happily together. Well. Um,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: actually two more big topics here. Uh. One is just
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: bachelorette's alum Handle Brown poses naked on vacation in sexy pool.
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  Speaker 1: Pick this according to US Weekly. Yeah, I mean she
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  Speaker 1: looks hot. It's a thirst trap for sure. Any guy
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  Speaker 1: who hasn't texted her back will be texting her back.
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  Speaker 1: It's very sexy. Um. Also, if you guys didn't see
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: this week, Adele did a spoof of The Bachelor on SNL.
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  Speaker 1: It was very funny. She sang hello and someone like
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  Speaker 1: you as she was one of the girls competing for
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  Speaker 1: the heart of a bachelor, you know, fake bachelor named
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Ben Kay And this all took place within the first
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  Speaker 1: Row ceremony cocktail party. It was very funny. So she
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  Speaker 1: keeps interrupting people in songs. So if you haven't seen that,
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  Speaker 1: get that out on YouTube. Uh. And then a final
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  Speaker 1: little note, Tyler Cameron came out this week and he
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  Speaker 1: said that picking out an engagement ring for Hannah Brown
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  Speaker 1: was one of the hardest things he's ever done. He
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  Speaker 1: says it was a twelve out of ten on a
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  Speaker 1: level of difficulty and what he decided ultimately, And this
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  Speaker 1: is just so crazy that like at once upon a time,
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Cameron picked out an engagement ring for Hannah, right, Um,
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  Speaker 1: but he said ultimately he decided, just give me the
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  Speaker 1: biggest one there is that fits Hannah's personality. Big personality
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  Speaker 1: being big ring. I mean that's that's uh, it's it
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  Speaker 1: just is an interesting experience picking out that ring. It
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  Speaker 1: always is for anybody. Um. But you know, I look
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  Speaker 1: back on the time and I think it's like maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's it's just me, but it feels obvious, like pick
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  Speaker 1: the biggest ring, Like just just picked the biggest It's
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  Speaker 1: not hard, like look at this biggest see which diamond
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  Speaker 1: stands at the boast, and then say this is this
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  Speaker 1: will be it? Yeah, yeah, I agree. Before we wrap
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: up this segment, because we're about to get into interviews,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: I wanted to do Ben's story time right now. As
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: we have been for the past couple of weeks, Ben
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: has been regaling us with a tale of his life
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: that he does not share in his to be released
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: in February book, Uh gets it Alone in plain Side guys,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: pre order it comes down in February. It's right, please
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: do that. Okay, So you mentioned just in one sentence
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: in the book that there was a time where you
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: got your head stuck in a walking bridge and it
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: had to be cut out by the fire department. Well
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: bystanders watched. Now tell us the entire story. Yeah, it's
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: a good, great point. Actually, Uh, this story time has
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: been really good for me. It's pretty healthy and therapeutic.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: And I'm excited to continue because they do get they
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: do get pretty intimate here as the weeks will continue,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: so make sure you tune in for that. Well here's
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: the story. Uh, there is a she's actually a huge
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: batchelor fan. I just made a video for her and
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: her friends. Um, her name is Johanna, and she was
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: my preschool crush, like my preschool crush, and yeah, I
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: remember this. I wasn't you know again, only child that
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: just enter preschool, and so I would chase around the
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: playground where the truth was though, she had a crush
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: on my cousin, or at least that's how I remember it.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that was true or not, but
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: she wanted to get my cousin attention. She didn't want
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: to give me any attention. But I was like a
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: year younger in her, so I was like chasing around. Uh.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: And you know those walking bridges that you have on
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: the playgrounds that are like wooden planks and their chain
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: together and they kind of yeah like and so there
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: was one of those, and it was the slots in
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: it were a little bit wider on the side, so
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: like the sides where the handles were like um like
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: there was railing kind of like a wood railing. The
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: captain in well, she ran up the walking bridge. And
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: I was running on the playground as a preschool and
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: I stuck my head through the wood slots on the side,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: and I turned my head to like yell at or
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: something I forget, and and I tried to pull my
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: head out, and I was not able to get my
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: head back out, like for whatever reasons, my ears were
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: easier going forward than they were getting pulled backwards, and
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: so I was literally stuck. So here's the thing. They
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: call my parents. My parents don't answer for whatever reason,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I ain't there at work, So they have to call
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: my and my aunt and my grandpa who come and
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: give approval for the fire department to literally cut me
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: out of this walking bridge during preschool. As I'm trying
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: to like flirt with this girl as like, I don't
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: know how old you on preschool, like three four whatever.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: And here's the funniest part of the story. So we're
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: at Thanksgiving maybe five six years ago, and I bring
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: up this story because I remember it, uh, and my
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: mom goes, what are you talking about? And I was like,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: you know when I got my head caught and the
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: thing in preschool, I was like, Grandpa, you remember that? Goes, oh,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I remember that. Somehow some way, like my parents never
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: found out about it, Like no, I promise you my
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: mom and dad never found out about this, Like I
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: gotten cut out. My grandpa or grandma had came picked
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: me up from preschool. I went back with them, like
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: maybe somebody had forgotten to tell them, just like it whatever. Somehow,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: some way, my parents, who are very loving, very involved parents,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: they will tell you that they they never knew about
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: this until the Thanksgiving dinner, like not that long ago
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: that I brought it up. So here's a story, just
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: like what a little bachelor move of you, you know,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: like that was like the Bachelor in training and he
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: had a little hiccup. Yeah, I was just trying to
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: be a romantic and yelled at her name and she's
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: a huge Bachelor fan now, and like I said, it
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: was funny. I just got a random h d M
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: from her the other day saying, hey, can you make
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: my friends and I have video for a watch party,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: and I was like, of course I can. Like she's
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: the best, and she you know, she's sweet girl, and
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: but um, I just thought it was funny. It does
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: remind me that story. So anyways, kids listening, I'm sure
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: we have some like, you know, young kids listen to
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: this podcast. Uh, don't stick your head in bridges. Uh.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: So let's take a break, we come back, let's do
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: some interviews, uh, and then break down this week's episode. Alright, guys,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: it's been a couple of months over six I think
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: since we talked to Courtney Robertson. And I'm mind blown
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: on how fast six months went and how much has
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: happened to Courtney since Hey Courtney, miss mother and wife.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Now I know, it's so surreal. Oh my gosh, so
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: much just happened in a year and a half. That's
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: it's so cool now. Yeah, so you were on on
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: our podcast in March, and then I remember being with
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: you at a Lionel Richie concert. I think it couldn't
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: be more than two years ago. Now. I think it
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: was like two years ago this fall, and you were
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: just like, I am so single, hooked me up with someone,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: and now you're married to Humberto. You're very handsome husband,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: and you have the beautiful Joaquin, your son. How how
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: the right of a world wind has your life been?
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: You know, it's been a lot, you know, you know,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: I lost my mom last summer and like a lot
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: of big life events I had. I was dating Humberto then, um,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: we met in April and he moved in July, so
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: so many things, and then we got you know, pregnant,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: engaged and all these exciting things, and then planning a wedding.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: As you know, Ashley was intense during a pandemic. But
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: it's just now it's like, okay's calming down and it's
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: just really exciting and pretty easy. Did you have anything
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: with the wedding planned? Um? Was there any alterations that
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: you had to make make to the wedding or was
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: this the way you planned it? Pretty much? I mean
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: we were like, should just go down to the courthouse,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: but we had already paid for pretty much everything in
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: deposits and everything was nonrefundable, so I was like, I
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: don't want to leave money on the table. We had
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: a hundred people originally on our guest lists we already
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: sent out to save the days. Um, so we just
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: started scaling it back. I mean, we have some high
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: risk people in our family, and we end up doing
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: our first looks in the chapel my parents got married
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: at but small, I mean like thirty people can fit
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: in there. Really, let's not cram a bunch of people
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: in a small space. So we moved outside and then
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: we actually got married on that terrorist so people were
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: exceeded comfortable and we just we did all the safety precautions.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: You know, this is UH has actually mentioned this has
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: been a crazy you know, a couple of years for you,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: but especially the last six months obviously now you are married,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: but you also just had a child. What queen, what
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: is motherhood? Like? Oh my gosh, it's everything I thought
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: it would be. And then some um it's like they say,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: like the grunch, like your heart just grows like three sizes. Um,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: It's definitely has its challenges, but it's been it's just
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: been amazing. I'm just savoring every every little milestone, like
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: he's starting to sit up and he's sleeping really good.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: So that's good because because as we talk right now,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: while Keen is hold, he is four months old, alright, awesome,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: and he has a Dodgers uh jersey on which her
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: to my heart. But he is a good looking kid,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: really good looking boy. Yeah, he's so, he's playful, he's
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: got like a really good nature. Um, he's a Gemini.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Was born in juneteenth. I actually saw back up that
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Martinez had a baby the same day, a couple of
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: days early. We really wanted to cancer baby, but became
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: he was a perfect gentleman delivery with smooth. I mean,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: you just you don't know what you don't know. So
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I mean with the pandemic and having the labor in
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: a mask. Um, it's definitely knowing that he's in the world.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I guess I'll say this like I will probably never
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: sleep the same again. You know, he's just like just
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: like you had to labor in a mask. Yeah, that's
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: really rough. Luckily I didn't have to like go for
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: too long. Like you hear these horror stories about people
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: like laboring for days and uh it was limited space.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: It must have been like a full moon Friday kind
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: of sitch, but thank god I got my epidural. I
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: was laboring. They didn't have a room for me for
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: a while, so, um, we're a'mbared to. He was like, oh,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: so hard to watch. It's so uncomfortable until you get
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: is there anybody else allowed in the room. I don't
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: know the restrictions when it comes to having a job.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: But was he able to be there beside you during
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: the whole pregnancy. Yeah? Yeah, Umberto was allowed to be
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: there and he had a mask on um and he
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: did so good. I mean I was really working at
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: a breath towards the end, and he was like I
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: could just hear him in the ear, like keep going,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: keep going. And I felt like they were It's like
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: l A. I was like, compared to l A traffic,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: you know when people are like I'll be there in
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: five minutes and you have their house saying like you
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: know he's gonna be here, He's on his way, and
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I was like thinking like yeah, right, yeah, right, And
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden he's in the world. It's
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: like you get goose and what's What's something about motherhood
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: that had surprised you? Um, let's see I think like
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: the U but like the instincts are natural, like because
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: you don't know what to expect, and like I hired
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: like a sleep coach to come in and help us
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: the first couple of weeks and just learning like how
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: to be with him and like they need to learn
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: the difference between night and day. And we've been happy, happy,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: and but yeah, that's been refreshing. I guess you know,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I've heard I listened to your podcast regularly and you
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: guys talking about coming parents. I love it. Yeah, And
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: it's like you just you don't know what to expect,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: and I've been pleasantly surprised at like just like you
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: kind of know what to do. Not all the time,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: but it does come naturally. That's good to know, not
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: just google it. We're always like I'm like, oh my god,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: you said something super interesting, um that I haven't stopped
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: thinking about. You said now that what keens in the world,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: you're never going to be able to sleep the same.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Why is that It's just like I have this little
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: person to like, I mean, he can't speak for himself,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: and I just need to take care of him, and
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: and you know, it's just it's like probably like your
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: parents feel like when you travel or you're nervous. It's
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: just one of those things. He's always up to the
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: top of mine. But it also creates a little anxiety
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: for me too, And like with the woking and navigating,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: like a lot of my friends haven't met him, or
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: like people coming to the house and like, you know,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: do you tell them to put a mask on? And
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: like for me, it's like that's where I'm like my voice.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: I need to really step up and protect them. You know.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Can you talk about your wedding day for a little
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: bit more. I just want to know about how emotional
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: it is. Can you paint the picture of the day
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: for us? Where it was the setting? Because I see
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: the People magazine photos and you guys just look stunning.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Well, Um, so it was in Arizona. I
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: don't know if you guys have been there, but it's
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: like a super special place to me. My parents got
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: married there forty years ago, and um it's about a
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: two hour drive from where we live. So for me,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: it was like I grew up going there and hiking
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: and we wanted a place to where we could go
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: just for a day trip, like every on our anniversary um, so, yeah,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: that was It was nice and his family came. It
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: was just my immediate family. A couple of my cousins
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: couldn't come. Um, so it just was adults and five kids,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: and it was it worked out that the day was
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: emotional for me obviously, I you know, walked my mom
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: and that was really heavy for me, um, And that's
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: part of the reason why we moved it out of
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: the chapel. We did our first looks in there, but
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: it just as the day approached, it just got to
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: be too heavy and for my dad too. So but
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: the music things went wrong. Like I'm like, I've learned,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: like maybe not as detail oriented as I would like
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: to be the wedding planning, like the correspondence and you know,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: all the details. But the day of like things went
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: wrong and I just kind of had to have some
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: grace and just we just wanted it to be some
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: a day that we'll always remember. I'm so sorry about
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: your mom. I remember seeing it on Instagram and so
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: it was so sad for you. Um. Did she get
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: to meet Humberto before she passed? No, And that was
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: really hard for me for sure. That was hard, but
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: he was right there by my side, and um, yeah,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: like he came, I mean, to be new in a
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: relationship and go through that is you know, he's just
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: been like my rock. So yeah, really it's a really
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: good gray. Now where is he from? Uh? Is he
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: from Arizona as well? Yeah, so he grew up here
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: and then he went to law school in New York
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: and I was actually modeling at the time living there,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: So we lived in New York at the same time.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: We've just kind of been passing ships. It's beautiful. How
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: did you guys meet? Remind me know you told us,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: but yeah, we're fresher memories please. So he had liked
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: a couple of photos of mine on Instagram and I idem,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: but there'd be old like where do I know he from?
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: And I really thought I knew him a friend of mine,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: an old friend of mine, had dated him once ten
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: years ago, so his name is pretty unique. So I
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: was like where do I I mean, there was some
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: truth to it, and then he was like, I remember
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: if I met you? And we went out a few
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: days later and it was pretty pretty instent for me,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: like just which I didn't know if I'd have that feeling.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I was starting to lose hope and you know, you
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: know dating and actually you know I saw you. I
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: was kind of like open minded or whatnot, but kind
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: of and now I feel for people dating in this pandemic.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: I got a nice message on Instagram the other day,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: so I'm a girl saying like I'm keeping my Instagram
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: open because of you. I'm thirty five and single, and
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: I hear a lot of that and I'm like, just
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: like that photo, you know, just I know Ben that
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: time too, So yeah, it's the same way I met
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Jess as I messaged her. So I'm yeah, I'm not
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: against it. I think it's a great idea. Yeah, be
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: bold out there. Who cares, Like what works. The worst
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: is going to happen. They're not going to respond or
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: they're not going to be into it whatever. Unsend messages
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: too and honest fully and he doesn't believe me. I
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: hear him and they're playing so cute. Um. This was
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: the first time ever DM I like I swear Bible,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: like I just like I'm gonna take a chance. I
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: was ready to put myself out there and it was
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: beginner's luck maybe, but like I hadn't messaged. I mean,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know the exact number, but it's not like
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: more than three girls that I had. Doesn't seem like
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: a guy that just slides into Yeah, I hadn't um
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: and I was actually encouraged by my buddies to do it.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: So like, here's the truth. You do it on the
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: first try. Let's say mine is like the second try,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: maybe third, Like, here's the here's the warning. Be careful.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: If you're really looking for a partner and you message
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: somebody on Instagram, the chances of it working out long
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: term are fairly high, so be aware. I think so,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: I think the Yeah, I like that. Like that well, Corney, Uh,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: it's really great to catch up with you and from
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: the whole podcast team here and then the people listening. Uh,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: it's obvious you have just like dove head first into
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: motherhood in the coolest of ways. Uh. I wish everybody
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: could see like you holding your child because I know
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: they would just get a picture of how much you
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: love him and uh, just how awesome it is that
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: you are raising life into this world. So thank you
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: for coming on, thank you for sharing some time with us.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: We'll let you get back to playing UM as a
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: family out in the living room, which you know, as
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: you said, they're doing right now. Yeah, I know. I
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: love that's like the best sound in the world just
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: hearing them. I'm so happy for you. This is this
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: has been an amazing story to watch. Well, actually, thank you.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: I'm happy for you than to thank you. I can't
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: wait for you when you're ready. If you ever need
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: any kids, I think, because that's also been really nice.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Just like how embrace, I've been like welcomed into the
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: motherhood club. I love that. I definitely will reach out
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: yes anytime. Well, thank you guys so much. Thank you
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: by Actuley. As we were as we're closing up here
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: with Courtney, we were talking about this. There's been a
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: lot of babies being born into Bachelor Nation here recently.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: I mean it's crazy, I know, so crazy. A lot
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: of life in this world. Hey, let's take a break here.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: When we come back, we are going to break down
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: this week's episode with a Bachelor super fan. We'll be
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: back on the Almost podcast. Okay, guys, we've got Marika
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  Speaker 1: dom and check on the podcast. She is. She's a
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  Speaker 1: very well known actress from Gray's Anatomy, Brothers and Sisters,
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  Speaker 1: north Shore. The help forty year old virgin and right
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  Speaker 1: now you're calling us from you and your husband, Scott
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  Speaker 1: FOLI are big move during the pandemic. That's always fun,
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  Speaker 1: is that where you guys are from? Who? Who's from? Nobody?
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  Speaker 1: I was born in Poland and raised in Brooklyn, and
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  Speaker 1: my whole family is in New Jersey and New York work.
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  Speaker 1: And we've been in l A. I've been there seventeen years,
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  Speaker 1: he's been there thirty and it was just time and
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  Speaker 1: we have planned the move before a pandemic, and then
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  Speaker 1: pandemic hit and we did it anywhere because it's just
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  Speaker 1: close enough to New York, New Jersey to my family,
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  Speaker 1: but just far away enough from New York, New Jersey. Perfect,
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  Speaker 1: and it's beautiful and we can still work, you know.
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  Speaker 1: It's really close to the city, like no problem to
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  Speaker 1: go to New York City to Manhattan to work. And
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  Speaker 1: it's good. It's just nice more suburbs for the children.
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  Speaker 1: We have three kids, so so nice. I met you
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  Speaker 1: at the I Heart Awards I Heard Music Festival last
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  Speaker 1: year and we talked about The Bachelor and we had
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  Speaker 1: no filter when we talked about and all the characters
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  Speaker 1: from it. So let's stay with that theme while we
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  Speaker 1: recap this third episode of Claire's season, starting with Yosef.
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  Speaker 1: Give us all your thoughts about this scene with Yosef out.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like Joseph tried to like play the same
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  Speaker 1: the dad card, and I was just not feeling it
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  Speaker 1: at all because like, as a mom and I have
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  Speaker 1: a husband, we have three kids, Like you left your
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  Speaker 1: kid to be on this show to be with Claire,
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  Speaker 1: So like then you can't turn it around and say
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  Speaker 1: she doesn't have class and this and that. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: do you not know what you signed on for? Like,
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  Speaker 1: like she doesn't have kids, she's free, She's she's going
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  Speaker 1: to look like you like paused your life. Yes, So
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  Speaker 1: who's He's been all over the headlines this week too?
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  Speaker 1: I mean we just broke it down at the beating
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  Speaker 1: of the episode with kind of his history, and it
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  Speaker 1: feels like every week up until this point when obviously
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  Speaker 1: he says goodbye, Joseph has been like I feel like
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  Speaker 1: we never got to see him fully villainized, Like he
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  Speaker 1: was always close and like I think he could have
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  Speaker 1: like self destructed himself, but I feel like him leaving
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  Speaker 1: early was his best move to not make a fool
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  Speaker 1: of himself anymore. Are you talking about? He was a fool.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you can get worse than what he did.
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  Speaker 1: He dragged this on for two more weeks. It's worse
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  Speaker 1: than it was just for three weeks. So I feel
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  Speaker 1: like he knew that it was going crantastic for him,
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  Speaker 1: so he was like, Oh, I'm gonna be I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to send myself out before she kicks me out. It
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  Speaker 1: was like, this was like tell you know, he had
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  Speaker 1: like zero self esteem. But then usually when that happens,
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  Speaker 1: he acts like big man, you know, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: where is this confidence coming from you? He seemed prideful
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  Speaker 1: that he had the villain narrative. It was like he
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  Speaker 1: was leaning in completely to being that guy. He didn't
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  Speaker 1: even have like any you know, how normally did they
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  Speaker 1: try to backtrack and save themselves. He was like, no,
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  Speaker 1: no saving, I'm not going to even try to make
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  Speaker 1: what I just said seem more gentle. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: fully lean in and just repeat myself over and over again.
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  Speaker 1: He's just so unattractive. Attitude and everything altogether there made
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  Speaker 1: it just so like smartie. He's been so smarty to me,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like what like why why are you there?
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  Speaker 1: Like I don't know what his intentions were. That chick
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  Speaker 1: is crazy, she's love her, I love watching her. Or man,
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  Speaker 1: I can't hear you high Scott. Do you watch the
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  Speaker 1: show with Marie? Oh? Yeah, we watched it all fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: We're having a discussion right now. Ben thinks Joseph could
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  Speaker 1: have stuck around a few more weeks and been even
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  Speaker 1: more villainous. It could there be such a thing. Yeah, absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: I think I think you're right, Ben. And and here's
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  Speaker 1: why he decided to blow it all up in one
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  Speaker 1: sort of fell swoop, right, he could have dold that
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  Speaker 1: hate out over three or four more episodes. Stuck around,
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  Speaker 1: he could have gotten some guys on his side because
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  Speaker 1: she is not sort of playing your typical bachelorette role,
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  Speaker 1: and he really could have druged that out. I'm with you, man,
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  Speaker 1: it must just be us. I think we're alone on
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  Speaker 1: this thought here between the two women. But I I'm
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  Speaker 1: with you. I think he could have gone off a
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  Speaker 1: lot worse. Now. It was bad, don't get me wrong,
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  Speaker 1: it was bad, but like, give me two more weeks
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  Speaker 1: of how bad that was that guy has it's a
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  Speaker 1: lot worse looking. Yeah, look with her behavior, uh, and
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  Speaker 1: you know who knows where things are gonna go. What
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  Speaker 1: do you mean her behavior? Look, look, I'm I am.
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  Speaker 1: I am a romantic. I'm gonna get on my knees here.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a romantic at heart, all right, I believe in love.
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  Speaker 1: But the premise of this show, good or Bad, is
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  Speaker 1: to string people along. Right, You've got a whole group
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  Speaker 1: of people. You can't choose one person in the first
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  Speaker 1: week or the second week. Then what you end up
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  Speaker 1: doing is what she's done, which is unfortunately alienating the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the guys and building up this, uh, this
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  Speaker 1: sense of distrust and uh, you know, they were all
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  Speaker 1: sort of loyal to her without any reason to be
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  Speaker 1: at the beginning, except of the fact she's the bachelor.
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  Speaker 1: I love you, good to see you. Guess we talked
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  Speaker 1: about it last night. I'm like, we just steal everything
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. But because we love the batch, we love
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  Speaker 1: you guys. But going off of what Scott was saying,
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  Speaker 1: I think that because she's not behaving in the prototypical
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  Speaker 1: lead way, that it's creating a much more entertaining season
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  Speaker 1: for us. I don't know about that, because you kind
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  Speaker 1: of like, if you know, I mean listen. I rewatched
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  Speaker 1: right now, just the last half hour. Again, the amount
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  Speaker 1: of times she talks about Dale. She literally is like
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  Speaker 1: I would have spoke with him last night. I wish
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  Speaker 1: he was here on this day. I can't stop thinking
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  Speaker 1: about him, like we got it, we got it. He's hot,
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  Speaker 1: He's definitely, definitely a good looking man. He really is.
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  Speaker 1: Does he like her and Jerry's out for me? I
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  Speaker 1: cannot tell. I cannot tell anything with him. He is
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  Speaker 1: like one emotion across the board, that pretty smile, and
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  Speaker 1: then I have not seen him go any levels, any
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  Speaker 1: levels of like any any emotions, So I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if he likes her or if he just likes make
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  Speaker 1: an out with her. Okay, here's my thoughts on that.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of drank the Dale kool aid this episode,
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  Speaker 1: Like I was kind of like, Okay, I'm gonna throw
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  Speaker 1: caution into the wind and totally ship these two. I
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  Speaker 1: really like the way that he behaved once Josef left screaming, um,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't like the other guy's approach for like I'm
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  Speaker 1: so heated right now, like they're all puffing up their chest.
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  Speaker 1: I really liked his approach, the way he gently came
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  Speaker 1: up to her. Of course that was like producer lead.
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  Speaker 1: They were like, oh, you can go walk over to
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  Speaker 1: Claire now. Um, but I I'm trying to lean into
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  Speaker 1: them being together. However, I wonder if he would have
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  Speaker 1: all these all these moves and all this sweet dalenus
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  Speaker 1: would exist no matter who the lead was. That's what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't know who. You don't know who
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  Speaker 1: he is. He could be like that with any Maybe
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  Speaker 1: he just wants to win, you know, he's an athlete
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  Speaker 1: x athlete. Maybe he's just like wants to be the winner,
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  Speaker 1: who loves to be the front runner, like it's a competition.
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  Speaker 1: He's there. I'm not saying he doesn't like her. Obviously
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  Speaker 1: they have physical chemistry, you know, but I just don't
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  Speaker 1: feel it like in other seasons and stuff when two
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  Speaker 1: people connect, like you feel it more. It like, I
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  Speaker 1: just don't feel it. For whatever reason. I know she's
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  Speaker 1: been completely infatuated. I mean she calls him her fiance
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  Speaker 1: to the producer when she's like walking away, She's like,
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  Speaker 1: these guys are dog in my fiance family. Girl, you
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  Speaker 1: did not even have a one on one with him.
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you. It just seems fishy, like either she's
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  Speaker 1: just crazy infatuated he's so hot in real life that
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  Speaker 1: she's like, oh my god, that loves you, or they
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  Speaker 1: secretly were talking, or their relationship is something already established
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  Speaker 1: because she had no problem talking to every single dude
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  Speaker 1: talking about Dale. Dale said about me like eighth grades that, like,
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  Speaker 1: oh did you hear this? What do you say? What
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  Speaker 1: do you say? What is it? What? What is it?
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  Speaker 1: Reta I was gonna say. I mean, that's one thing
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  Speaker 1: we've always known about Claire is you know, with even
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  Speaker 1: like when her games, we were on it with her,
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  Speaker 1: like with ben Wa or like somebody, like she's very passionate.
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  Speaker 1: Like passionate is a word I'd use to described Claire
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  Speaker 1: and I. I want to go back and listen to
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  Speaker 1: a couple of our podcasts. I bet when Claire has
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  Speaker 1: announced that the Bachelor at we had predicted just knowing her,
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  Speaker 1: that something like this could easily happen with her because
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  Speaker 1: she is passionate and she's very committed, and she puts
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  Speaker 1: her sights on something, she goes after it. Now here's
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  Speaker 1: the problem with picking one and isolating them. Though the
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  Speaker 1: love story part I can kind of get behind. It's
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  Speaker 1: like that sweet and that's nice, and you found your love.
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  Speaker 1: I get that when she's saying, hey, you can get
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  Speaker 1: mad at that, but you can't get mad at love.
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  Speaker 1: The problem is we only get four weeks of a season.
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  Speaker 1: At the end. I like that at the end, I
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  Speaker 1: like that. I like that when like ten guys are
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  Speaker 1: gone or seven guys are gone, and then it's narrow
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  Speaker 1: down and then you can see the spark and then
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  Speaker 1: you know because at that point, right towards the end,
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  Speaker 1: you're like invested in other people, and even if they're
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  Speaker 1: not the one, you don't want to hurt their feelings.
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  Speaker 1: It's a little bit of finesse to how you treat
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  Speaker 1: the other contestants. So there's zero pests for her. She
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  Speaker 1: like could give too they get mad at her all.
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  Speaker 1: She wants to talk about Dale, so it kind of
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  Speaker 1: makes it. I was so happy when some of the
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  Speaker 1: guys were like to bs, like why am I here?
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  Speaker 1: You know, that's a good point when you say that,
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  Speaker 1: they end up caring about them for the person they
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  Speaker 1: are feeling, even though you're not the one. I know
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  Speaker 1: I'm not picking you, but like, at this point, I
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  Speaker 1: feel like I'll feel a little gross if I'm not
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  Speaker 1: nice to you. At this point, all her eggs are
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  Speaker 1: in one basket and it's crazy obvious. So it also
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: makes it, you know, it's the weirdest at the weirdest
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  Speaker 1: season ever because the pandemic and the way that's set up,
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  Speaker 1: and they're all you know, isolated with each other and
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: like at like kinda and like everything is just right there.
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  Speaker 1: So it must be so weird for these dudes to
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  Speaker 1: like feel like she's just like nothing, doesn't care about
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: any Can you name one other person you think she likes.
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  Speaker 1: I honestly don't know if I can name many other
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  Speaker 1: people from the season. I've watched every episode. There's just
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  Speaker 1: no main characters like right now, like there's kind of them,
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  Speaker 1: but there's like nobody that we're like, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 1: that really liked her. I could I thought that he
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  Speaker 1: liked her, and I cannot believe that she just like
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: kicked him out because of an awkward second. We got
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  Speaker 1: to talk about that. Let's take one break here. When
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  Speaker 1: we come back, we're gonna continue to break down this
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: episode of the Bachelor. Yes, it's wild, there's a lot
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: to talk about. We'll be back with the almost famous podcast. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Zach was the guy that I picked Jeff based on
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  Speaker 1: pictures and months months ago, not when we saw the
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  Speaker 1: full and final you know, October premier cast. But I
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: predicted him to win the whole the guy that she
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: eliminated because they liked her though, but he like he
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: seemed like he liked her, and I didn't. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: get that. I watched that part twice too. I didn't
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: see him push her away, like I don't know what
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: her deal was in that second of like, oh my god,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: he pushed me right, and now I like not feeling things.
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  Speaker 1: Really I watched it twice two and I was like, oh,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: that really was as awkward as she acted, Like he
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: did not go you know the Hits rule you're supposed
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: to go like she went in for it went in
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: zero percent. He was holding her hands. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It was just the whole thing. It was a weird
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  Speaker 1: thing to send some one home over unless you're in
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  Speaker 1: love with somebody else already, so you don't give you
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: I think this is this is a big topic though,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: because there was you know, she was uncomfortable, Like the
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: reason she sent him home wasn't just the kissing. I
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  Speaker 1: get it, she said, She felt unsafe and she doesn't
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: want to go there and talk about it. And it
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  Speaker 1: just she got a bad vibe. Like I get that
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: she got a bad vibe, so it was out. I
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  Speaker 1: just couldn't see it as an audience member like I couldn't.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't see it. You know. I think we're not
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: taking into consideration the vibes that Claire got from Zack.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking that we need to just trust Claire's decision
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  Speaker 1: on eliminating Zack when she did. It goes beyond an
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  Speaker 1: awkward kiss. It was the fact that he tried to
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: pull her back multiple times after the failed kiss that
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: she felt triggered by. He made her feel uncomfortable, and
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: something about that experience with him reminded her of her past.
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  Speaker 1: This wasn't just her trying to get rid of another
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: guy to get closer to being with Dale. I think
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Zach maybe a nice guy that we won't get to
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  Speaker 1: know beyond this moment. But Claire's intuition told her he
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  Speaker 1: wasn't right for her, and I think that is just
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: important that we point that out. I mean, so as
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  Speaker 1: fans and I don't want to pull this to the listeners. Uh,
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: please email us or tweet us and hashtag almost famous
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: podcasts within it in that moment um, were you seeing
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: what Claire was feeling like? And I think that's for
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: us as as viewers. When he was in the car,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: I think if I I think he was kind of shocked. Um,
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: but there was obviously something there that just made her
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: say goodbye. Now here's the question for you. Was it
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: because she was still still so into Dale that she
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: really wasn't in the mood the day anybody wassoever at
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: any level? Or was there something there like did he
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: not leaning for the kiss? Was there an uncomfortability and
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: she said, hey, really like you just gotta go. I
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: think there's both. I think she got embarrassed then it
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: wasn't a quicker moving for a kiss. I think she
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: felt a little rejected for a foot second, and then
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: she was like, I don't like you anyway and you're
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: not gonna make me look bad, so the fight out. Yeah,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: interesting completely agree with her. Yeah, it's kind of like
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: going off of last week's group date when the guys
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: didn't immediately jump up to take her away that moment
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: like I'm here, hello, all eyes on me? Or get
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: out because she's you know, not for nothing. She is
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: thirty nine years old and she kind of knows what
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: she wants and she's not playing. But it's kind of
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: weird only because you signed on for the show and
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: there's a certain way the show goes, so it's like
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: you gotta pick a lane. No, I mean, Ben, you
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: are the bachelor, Like, do they ever tell you, like
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: even if you find the one, don't don't like reveal
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: all or like keep it going or like whatever, Like
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know, because it's so odd to me that
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: she's just like he's that's it, day one, goodbye. Yeah,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: I mean I think the show doesn't really okay, So
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: this is how it happens. Like when you start to
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: have your favorite, the show encourages you, says stay open, right,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: and they kind of say because you've seen episodes or
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: seasons before or you know that, like there's twists and
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: turns that you won't expect until the very end, and
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: so until that very end, until that moment that you're celebrating,
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: stay open to the process. They open to get to
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: know these these people, and and I think that's what
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: helps you out because you end up respecting, loving, caring
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: about many people because you're learning about them, and then
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: the end is always super difficult, like you said, because
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: you care, but also super exciting because you're at the end.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: It makes the show so good. That's why like me
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: and got love watching it. It's like towards middle to
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: the end where you can see relationships even friendships or whatever,
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: or just like candying about another human where it gets
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: like I think you did you know? I think you'll
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: get that at least with Tasia. So now you'll think
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: of it like two totally separate seasons, and like this
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: season is like the unique, never been seen before transparent girl,
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: who I do feel is so relatable, like she can't
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: stop thinking or faking that she's just into one person.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: So I think there's a lot of girls out there
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: that are like, oh, Claire is me. That's how I
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: would be in this situation, or at least that's how
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: I think of it. And then like, while we can't
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: watch a whole season of this, least we'll get to
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: a regularly, regularly scheduled like yeah, oh my god, but
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: you don't know, but it could, right, I mean, he knows,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: that's so excited to see if he if he's gonna
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: go if she goes, if he's gonna go with it.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: I So here's based on experience, Yes, that would be
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: wild and that is super entertaining. Um I can see though,
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: where as a lead, if you pick a favorite and
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: you make it very obvious and that it would destruct
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: the environment immediately. So like what I'm saying is if
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: you even at any level, hint that you try to
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: protect yourself from expressing and showing emotion or your interest
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: in anyone when you're in group settings to such a
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: degree so that like it doesn't blow up the environment
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: and it doesn't affect the masses. I mean, it spreads fast.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: And so if you do come out and you're like, hey,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: I like this person, I'm gonna spend an hour of
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: my group date with him and I'm not really even
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: gonna care to come back to you. Like I know,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: if you did that on week one, or if you
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: did that week six, everybody in the house would be
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: affected and they wouldn't. And it's hard to get over
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: it because it spreads quick. So based on that question,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: do we think the guys in this house are roasting
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Dale the way they are because they are jealous or
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: because there's another reason? Because for the first time, I'm
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: watching this and I'm like, I don't know if we're
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: being given any other reason beyond jealousy for them to
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: hate him. Mm hmmm. I don't know. Like I said,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: there's no show me who Dale is, Like, I don't
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: know besides being handled with a dope smile. I don't
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: know if Dale is like he doesn't really there's been
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: no real discussions with him. There's like a minute of
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: him and easy talking easy by the way, I love
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: is for anality so much like like you could see
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: his personality, you know what I mean. I like the
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: guys would need to you're like, oh, I know who
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: you are or the kind of guy you are. I
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: don't know the kind of guy deal is. I don't
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: know what the hell Dale saying to them in the house.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Or maybe there's really not much to Dale and he's
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: just really beautiful and the guys just making fun of him. Well,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: we do see. I think we can get a hint
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: at who Dale is the house because he does get
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: called out and he doesn't handle that well. No matter
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: if you like Dale or not like that that moment
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: is him like kind of dancing around and being like, oh,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: I got lost and I just randomly walked in the
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: clears room and there she was, and I was surprised, Like, Okay, well,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: as all the guys are saying, Dale, if you're into
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: it and you went after her, just just tell us
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: like that fixes that, Like, just be honest with me
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: about that. So you see that. I think that starts
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: to really make the guy's mad because they don't feel
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: like he's on their side. And and then you see
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: him in Easy talking, and Easy so far has been
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: a character that you know, I enjoy watching, I appreciate,
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: I like, and he is honest with Dale by saying, Dude,
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: I don't hate you, but I but like you've messed up,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: like you I forget the exact words, but pretty much
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: what you're saying is like you you talk around yourself
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: all the time, and you're not straightforward with us, and
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: you just say the right thing all the time, and
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: that frustrates all of us because we don't get to
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: know you. And we also are frustrated because you're the
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: only one spending time with Claire. And I think if
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: we want to know what Dale is like in the house,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: we have to trust a guy like Easy who is
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: obviously cares for him, and it's like not like hey,
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: I don't I want you to leave, but just saying
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: like if you want to make friendships here at all,
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: then like just be a little more honest. I just
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's like if it's just he's like
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: a little sneaky or a little immature or what it is,
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I wish I could tell
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: if he really liked Clari or not, because I'm telling you,
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: like for me, I don't know, I don't. I don't
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: know besides physical, you know what I mean, Because they
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: don't have like any like his love language speech was
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: kind of compared to some others, you know what I mean.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: They haven't had like a deep combo and they're just
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: like making out all the time. They haven't happening conversation,
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: right have they know it? Well, we don't know the extent.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: We haven't been He haven't been it. We haven't seen it.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: She do you think that she's going to possibly leave
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: this show having never had a one on one with
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: this guy? Yeah? Yeah, I mean it looks like it's
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: from the previous but looks like it's coming quick. So
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I hope not, because I
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: was so weird not to see that. Also, like I said,
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know, there's like a teeny percentage of me
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: that's like maybe he won't goold be great? How is
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: this conversation gonna go She's gonna be like or she
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: sits down, has her Harrison thing where he says we
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: can't go on like Claire, and then he's just going
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: to be like, well, he says, you blow up the Bachelorette, right,
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: he says you blow I don't know. So she she's
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: so yeah, like you blow up the Bachelorette? And then
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: is she just going to go to Dale's room and
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: be like, look, I should probably not continue with this
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: because I like you enough. Do you want to get
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: out of here? Like, gow's this conversation going to go down?
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: Can you wait here one second? Can someone refreshed my memory?
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: Did she not do this on Batch in Paradise where
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: she was like, there's no one here for me, I'm
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: out After a couple of episodes, am I wrong? Yes?
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: I was there? Yeah, you were there? Yeah? Is that
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: just like her emo like not feeling it? So she's
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: like out, I don't know, I mean she was around
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: Winter Games. That's the only time I've been like around
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: her consistently, and I mean she left and what we
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: didn't get talked about it she was engaged after Winter Games,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: like ben Wa got down on one knee at a
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: live show and she said yes, Like I was sitting
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: next to her and she came back, and I was like,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: what just happened? Like I didn't see this one coming.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: I mean I was sitting right next where, and I
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: was like, I feel like I'm watching something I shouldn't
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: and it proved that. But yeah, I mean what I
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: know about Claire from being around here and now she
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: told me from like she really wants to find love
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: and she's very direct in her pursuit at love. And
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: I think it was the biggest concern, if you will,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: about her being the bachelor at is that like she is,
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: she sets her eyes forward and she doesn't she's not
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: going to take the process slow, Like if this is
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: you're for me or you're not. And if you're not
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: for me, then you can go home. If you are
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: for me, then stick around and let's figure this thing out.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: But I've never known Claire or seeing Claire to be
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: like you're for me, and I'm for you now let's
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: just get out of here too, So I don't know.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: I think this is kind of why I'm so into this,
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: because it's just so different, and because she is so
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: firm in her feelings, and even if she were to
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: stick around for the eleven airing weeks that we normally get,
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: she she there's no way she would fall for anyone
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: other than their dale. She's gonna have tunnel vision now
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: through out. Yeah, I feel like I feel like like
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: game over now, especially because it's so awkward anyway, trying
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: to meet someone in this way. You know, it's such
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: a process and you already basically are closing the door
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: on so many other guys. Like if I was one
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: of the guys, I'd be like, I don't trust that
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: you like me at all, But you know, it's it
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: almost seems like it would take a lot longer for
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: their even to be like a number two or number
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: three or a number four person for her, I would agree.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: I'd also say that Blake, who did not play a
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: huge role in this episode, is probably her number such
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: a far number. Yeah, but I feel like he genuinely
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: likes her, Like I feel like he likes her. He's sweet,
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: but I don't know that that. I don't know. There's
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: like a big age gap there too. There's ten years between.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: That's a lot of life experience that Claire has on him. Yeah,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: that is a lot. That's a lot of time. Um, okay.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: The one thing we didn't cover is the fact that
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: she decided to forego the day portion of one of
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: the group dates. Do we like? She's literally telling everybody
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: like I've chosen and that she didn't gave herself the roads.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: She gave herself the road. She gave herself the road.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: She gave her the pat out of I'm like, why
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: are you giving yourself the road? The that was their
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: mission was to roast They all completed the mission, but
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: you didn't like what you heard, so none of them
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: got a road. That's such crap, guys, we have to
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: be honest here. She is so into Dale, Like, I'm
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: going to make the assumption that she's so into Dale
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: that the show is actually downplaying just how much she
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: is into Dale and how uninterested she is in being
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: around and being with any of these other guys. I
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: I was thinking the same thing, Ben. I was like,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: I bet you there was even more material I have
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: could be and everything she says, she's like, I wish
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: he was here. I would have left with him. I
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: would have stayed longer. Oh I just meet him around.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: Oh he's just the best. Oh I wonder what he's
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: doing today. Oh he's on the group date. Because I
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: just needed him to be with Like I just wanted
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: to see him quickly. That's why he wanted to solo date, right, Yeah,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: I mean you guys, I thought that he was going
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: she was going to invite him on the second time,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: like gets two days to this week. It's been fantastic,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: Like why not at this point, Like seriously, like if
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: if this is if, if this is how this thing
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: is going to play out, like let it. Let her,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: let her do what she wants, like if she wants
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: him around all the time, if he wants if she
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: wants him to move in, and like she'll date. They
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: should do like one episode where it's just the two
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: of them the whole hour and a half and then
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: you just see at the end if they make it
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: or not, like a fast forward, like a fast forward season,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: just like it would be wild. So like I think
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: this shows under playing. Just tell into into him. She was,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: and I think all these decisions are based on the
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: fact that she's she is transparent and for everything that,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: like you know, Claire is doing like she is being
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: very authentic to how she's feeling. I just really hope
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: he goes if she goes, I hope he goes with her.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: I really do, because I feel like that would be
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not by I'm not laughing. I like
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: Claire and I want her to find live and I
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: really hope, but I can I have I had this
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: vision of, like, I don't know, do you know what's funny?
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: As I Danna came into her room and she was
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: supposed to be like leading a date that afternoon. She's like,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: wait to get to know these guys. And then the
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: date's canceled. Diana never shows back up again, may not
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: have ever met the guys. And then and then Claire
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: is just like, yeah, I'm going to cancel a day.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: Portion Um. It was honestly probably too hot. She either
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: like one didn't have the energy too. It was annoyed
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: because Dale was Dale was not on that day. No wait,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: Dale was not going to be on the date. He
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: was on the first one. Yeah, Okay, Yeah, it was
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: front after you like go on a date with a
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: dude that you really like. Like, it's like it was
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: like she was not on the Bachelorette anymore. She was
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: just like, oh God, let me talk about you. It's like,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: I want to get some sleeping. Okay, it's too hot outside.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: We're just gonna just talk over drinks later. I wish
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: I would have I wish I would have known you
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: could just like canceled dates when you're tired. Fantastic, Like
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: if that's how you if that's how you get some
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: sleep at night, like that. Today we're not meeting because
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: I'm tired and it's hot outside and I just want
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: to watch football. It's Saturday. Yeah. Um, well, there's a few. Obviously,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: Dale is going to be the main storyline because that
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: is the main storyline of our breakdown of this episode.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: It goes it's the storyline that wraps this way all
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: the way into next episode and even the episodes previous.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: But there are a few moments that we do need
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: to highlight. We've already talked about Joseph that is a
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: big moment in this season. His from this show completely
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: inappropriate and his way of confronting it. Even his way
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: of sitting down at the beginning and saying, you know
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: he almost to me looked like he took pride when
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: he said, you know me, like I will speak my mind.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: It's like there's a difference between speaking your mind and
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: and just being yeah I did. Like there's a difference
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: between ego got bruised and this is how it came out.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: He can't hang. He's not like a man man in
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: that way, you know what I mean. He just went
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: fo baby mode. I'm gonna say, you're the wholest atrement. Okay, bye, Felicia,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: see later. And she doesn't care that much. Deals right
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: there in the in the wings waiting like what are
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: you doing? And you I'm like, what are you doing?
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: Your dead? Yeah, go back home to your daughter, and
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: like stop putting judgments on other people. You're a part
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: of the show. It's supposed to be fun and it's
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: sometimes ridiculous, and you knew what you signed on for.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: And then he's going to come in like he's the
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: most pious, Like it was so not classy. Okay, she
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: she did stand up for herself in perfect clear fashion fashion.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: We have the clip of that I've listened to the
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: last you know what you are done. Let me tell
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: you something. The way you're talking to me right now,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: never in a million years, listen to me. Listen. Never
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: in a million years did I ever think I would
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: have to utter these words again. Do not ever talk
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: to me like that. I never thought i'd ever have
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: to tell any man that I would never want them
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: being the father of my child. And I stand by that.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: I would never want my children having a father like you.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: Get out of here. The other thing I think we
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: need to bring up before Marica leaves is Tastia's awkward
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: entrance during the scenes for the next episode. So weird,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: Ben your face says at all it was a little much. Yeah,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, like Tassia's beautiful. Don't get me wrong, I
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: love her. Okay, she's a good friend. I just want
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: to know John Paul Jones is coming back. Yeah, I
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: mean it was a lot. It was like all of
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: a sudden, there's Tasia in the swimming pool and rising
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: out of the water SloMo, and here's the truth. It
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: comes out of nowhere, like there's no lead up to this,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: Like there's just all of a sensations getting out of
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: pool and then I think Chris Harris in the background
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: says like welcome Tasia or something, and you're like, for what,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: like what is she? Like? We still don't know what
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: she's doing. She shows up out of the pool somehow
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: the craziest way to like drop the hint that clears
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: out and Tastia is the new bachelorrete It's like, please
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: just show a foot stepping out of the limit with
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: a pretty dress, right, yes, I would have loved it
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: if they just like did the pan up. It didn't
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: show us the face, like I know there's stuff, but
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: just like something. This was so abrupt and so like
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: here I am in SloMo glitter, there's Tassia glowing, blowing, yes,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: looking beautiful, but like all of a sudden, there's Tasia.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: So we have Tastia's interns, we have Joseph's exit. We
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: obviously have Zack's exit that we talked about, um that
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: you know, Claire just wasn't feeling that and was feeling uncomfortable,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: so she sent him home. Here is one last guy
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: that I just want to get a comment on because
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: I just really enjoy him, like he is my I
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: love I know been It's great. Ben it's hilarious. Yeah,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: Bennett knows what he's doing. He's he's great. But there's
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: two guys. One is Easy that we've talked about. I
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: think he Easy is just terrific, could be the next Bachelor. Um.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: I think he has just really shown himself well. But
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: here is my underdog that I've really enjoyed, Riley. I
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: think Riley is a guy who has been patient, who's
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: listened well, who speaks a lot of wisdom if you
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: listen to what he says. When he says it, it's
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: always coming from a good place. It's always super wise.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: It's never mean necessarily, it's just like it's either saying
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: guys calmed down or don't speak for me, let me
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: speak for myself. But he just has kind of it
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: on the background. But I really like Riley. I'm gonna
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: look up to see which one Riley is exactly. No, No,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: he's the one that last week. Yes, I like the
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: prom dance. Yes. Yeah, he's really sweet and seems very
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: genuine I've really enjoyed him, very genuinely sweet. Sorry that
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: didn't You're right. He doesn't have like any sort of
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: judge e tone. He's just kind of like talking out
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: his feelings. But do you know what I mean by
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: him not having a judge tone. It's like he's trying
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: to accuse anyone of anything. He's like just he's there
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: and he's observing. He's observing, and he's commenting on what's
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: happening around him. And I mean, any other season, I
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: think he's a front runner. I think any other season,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: somebody gets to know him and go, you're you're incredibly kind, sweet, gentle,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: like understanding, like I want to get to know you more.
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  Speaker 1: Instead on this season, he just kind of sitting back,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: being like, I don't know what I'm doing here. I mean,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: a bunch of dudes popping lamar tre prosecco cracks me
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: up so hard because it's like subourbon mom, drink of choic.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, here they are. It's always no funny. Wait,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: come here, we're almost done. You have any last thoughts
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: on the batch? Come here? Sorry. I was I was, hey, guys, okay,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: I was driving taking my daughter in art class. I
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: was thinking like, maybe I was too hard on Claire
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  Speaker 1: when I spoke earlier, and I I like her. I
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: think she's good and I'm happy she found love and
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: that's ultimately what it's about on this show, right, But
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: I think, do you think Dale's absolutely absolutely gonna leave
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  Speaker 1: with her? She leaves like Dylan want to be there,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: No one wants to be there, stuff like but but
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  Speaker 1: but I think that I think the conceit of the
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: show is that it's a TV show, right, and we
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: want to draw out the conclusion to the end with
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: a couple of choices. And what she's done by congratulating
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: congratulations from me, by falling in love with this guy
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: so quickly, is taken away the conceit of the show,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: and the and the Bachelorette and Bachelor would not. You
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: can't have a show keep going if you lose, if
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: you give up that conceit, unfortunately, and we're all happy
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: for her. I think she's very sweet. I hope she
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: finds love. I hope it lasts forever. But man, oh man,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: Like I feel bad for those guys that date. That
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: dude was shredded and she sent him home, just shredded
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: a little nervous energy. But he was sweet, he was nice,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: he was polite, he had good feet, he didn't actually
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: lean back for kiss, like you know, there's weird stuff
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: happening there and she just got rid of him. I
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. Okay, as men, Ben and Scott,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: how would you feel with a bachelorette leaving and then
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: you getting a replacement bachelorette? You want to take that first? No,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: because I feel like Scott, you're gonna speak from a
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: place like of of like I've been there, so I
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: know how it would feel, and I want to hear
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: what you think and then I I'll fill in. I
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: would feel like a bit of a piece of meat.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: First of all, you know, like it's if if I
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: was really one of these guys who was there because
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: of Claire, as they really all say they do. I
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: don't know whether they have to say that they feel
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: like they should say it, or they were all fans
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: of Claire's beforehand. Um, but I would feel uh a cheated,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: be like a consolation prize. Um. And see, like what
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: am I doing now? Like I guess I'm still on
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: the I guess I'm here to keep this TV show
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: going and that's what we gotta do. So I feel
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: a responsibility to do that. But it wouldn't the the
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: honesty has sort of been taken out of it for me.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: M Yeah, that's a good point. Like I feel like
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  Speaker 1: that I would feel like I would feel like the
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: consolation prize. And I think that's exactly what I'm gonna say,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: is it would be hard for me mentally to be like, Okay, everybody,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: everybody that's left after Dale, you now get a shot
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: at love. Also, um, I think the positive that they
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: might have is I think they've been so disconnected from
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: Claire so far because there hasn't been another connection, that
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: they're probably just excited to go back to dating again,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: like to give it a shot. Like, Hey, I'm just
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: excited that somebody's here that might be interested in me.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: It's a fresh start. I think, you know, beat down
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: so much and felt like such a consolation prize that
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: I just want to feel like I'm actually a desirable partner. Yeah,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: I agree with that. I and I think they want
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: to look there there because they want to be on
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: the show. I felt so bad for them when they didn't.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: They sat around for four hours waiting for to go
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: on that date and then they had like a quote
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: unquote extended uh cocktail hour, but she spent the whole
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: damn thing with Dale. Anyway, Like these poor guys, Like
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: what are they doing there? They got lives. That dude
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: has a daughter, even though he wanted to blow it
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: up and go home anyway, Like come on, man, like,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: let's play the game. Play the game all right. I
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: love you guys. We'll see later. Well, to finish his thought, too,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: he's always fun. He loves the bat. Oh it's actually
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: has a couple. It just gives us joy and it's
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: a nice escapism. I love it. So here's a quick
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: note though, to finish his thought is, we as fans,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: get to watch this thing in two and a half
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: hours or however long it takes, right, and we're already
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: tired and feeling for these guys, like, wow, you've been
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: sitting around a while while this date took a long time,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: and you haven't seen clear yet. Like in real time,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: these guys might be at that date for ten hours,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: sitting on a couch waiting for something to happen, Like
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: this is their real This isn't like they're real lives.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: They're just kind of hanging out now, And so I
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: bet they're excited for something new to happen, excited for
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: somebody walk in specifically with this because they were so
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: jipped so quickly. I feel like they'd be like, great,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: can like what Scott said? Can we play now? Can
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: we do it? Like, let's go, Because if you are
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: signed on for something like this and then immediately you're like,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: oh wait, I can't even get a shot at the running,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: you know, that's kind of sad. So I don't know.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: I want to see I want to see dates. I
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: want to see flirting. I want to see stuck. I
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: want to see relationships. Okay, we'll actually ask the question
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: to the guys. I'm gonna ask a question to the girls.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: Oh god, I was literally just gonna ask this to Marica.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: Know where you're going with it. But let's see if
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: we read each other's minds. Okay, here's my question. Tassie
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: comes in now, let's assume now we can start talking
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: about that she is now coming in as the bachelor.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: Let's just make that assumption. It's been teased for so long.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: We've now seen her go out of the pool. If
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: it happens, how do we remember this season? Is Claire
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: and Dale remembered or is it tastious season as the
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: bachelorette from here on out? And that's how we remember
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: this season as fans. Okay, so I my question was
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: gonna be, Marika, how do you I hate using the
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: term replacement bachelorette because Tasia herself deserves her own season.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: She's so worthy of being the Bachelorette, So we need
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: to come up with a better term. But how would
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: you feel being sent in to take somebody else's leftover?
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: But when you're an actress and you either replace somebody
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: on a pilot or on a show or something, it's
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: like that walking into something like that. I'm sure she's
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: going to feel a little bit like insecure about it,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: but you gotta plow through and be like, Okay, that
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: was meant to be. It's my time to shine, and
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: let's hit it and let's go and find the confidence
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: and just just do it. And I feel like it
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: could very well end up being her season, more so
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: than Claire's, because just the amount of episodes that will
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: be left an the amount of time, and then the
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: stories and the relationships and all that, and like at
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: this point, like Ben said, I don't even know half
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: these guys names, so like it's it's so hard for
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: me to be like, oh, it's Claire. If she leaves
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: in the next one or two episodes. I think Tati
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: is the one who's going to introduce us to all
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: these men and who they are, you know, because she's
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: not giving anyone air to m I think best case scenario,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: it was meant to be for both of them to
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: be the leads of the season because hopefully both of
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: them end up getting married to one of the guys
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: on it. So it was very hopefully it's fate like.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: But to answer Ben's question directly, um, I would say
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: time will tell whose season We look back on this
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: and think who season was it. But I do believe
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: that if both girls end up being with their pick,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: that that it will just be equally viewed as like
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: declare tatious Hella entertaining, like two bachelorettes for the price,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: the one for the audience, you know, like and I'm
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: sure the men are going to be different, you know,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: you're different, different vibes, different energy with people, and I
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: think I'll be it will be fun to watch and
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: get to know these dudes because I, like I said,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know any but til and easy to because
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: I like him, he's the best. Well, we really appreciate
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: you coming on. Thank you for breaking down, Thank you
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: for being a passionate fan. UM now this is uh yeah,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: Scott was. It was a great addition to this UM
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: now you've heard it before. Follow our lead, Ashley. It
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: was another great episode, uh with a crazy breakdown of
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: Claire's season. We're gonna see what happens next. We'll be
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: back next week, uh, probably to start talking about Tashia,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: which I'm excited about. UM. But until then, I've been been,
• 1:17:36
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• 1:17:46
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