Latest / UK Column Radio / UK Column News — 21st September 2026
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- 0:08Speaker 1: Good afternoon.
- 0:09Speaker 2: It's Monday, 21st of September, 2026, just after one o'clock.
- 0:13Speaker 2: You're watching UK Column News. I'm your host, Ben Rubin,
- 0:15Speaker 2: and I'm delighted to be joined in the studio today
- 0:18Speaker 2: by Mr.
- 0:18Speaker 1: Brian Garish. Hello, Brian. How are you doing?
- 0:20Speaker 3: Pleasure to be here after such a fantastic weekend.
- 0:24Speaker 2: It has been a fantastic weekend, as we're going to
- 0:26Speaker 2: get into. We've got a very packed show today, loads
- 0:29Speaker 2: going on in the country, including the question as to
- 0:31Speaker 2: whether there's a general election in the offing. I think
- 0:33Speaker 2: there potentially might be, given some of the things that
- 0:35Speaker 2: have been coming through my door over the past few days.
- 0:39Speaker 2: We're going to be looking at what the BBC is
- 0:40Speaker 2: up to, which is propaganda, actually, in a word. And
- 0:44Speaker 2: we're going to talk about that a bit later on.
- 0:46Speaker 2: We're looking at the drive to war against Russia and
- 0:49Speaker 2: the historical parallels leading up to the First and Second
- 0:52Speaker 2: World War and some of the key people involved back
- 0:54Speaker 2: then who are still pretty much involved today. Those are
- 0:57Speaker 2: the dark powers and unelected think tanks behind the scenes
- 1:01Speaker 2: who are dictating government policy. But before we get into
- 1:05Speaker 2: all of that, we're going to have a little look
- 1:07Speaker 2: back at the weekend where we were celebrating 20 years
- 1:12Speaker 2: of UK column.
- 1:13Speaker 4: Brilliant.
- 1:14Speaker 3: Well, what better place to start than Plymouth Hoe in
- 1:18Speaker 3: the sunshine. And it was utterly fantastic at the end
- 1:22Speaker 3: of the day because we were able to take everybody
- 1:25Speaker 3: onto the hoe to have a look at the vista.
- 1:29Speaker 3: And our drone captured all the wonderful audience there. So
- 1:35Speaker 3: we had Just, I think, a fraction over 300 people
- 1:38Speaker 3: at our event. It was essentially full, absolutely brilliant, and
- 1:43Speaker 3: then everybody in the sunshine afterwards on Plymouth Hoe.
- 1:47Speaker 1: The sun did come out for us. That's fantastic.
- 1:49Speaker 3: Well, of course, Ben, because we booked good weather for
- 1:53Speaker 3: the weekend. People may not know, but Devon County Council
- 1:57Speaker 3: has a Director of Climate Change. They're in charge of
- 2:00Speaker 3: the climate, so you just give them a call, book
- 2:03Speaker 3: your sunshine, And sure enough, it was there shining on
- 2:07Speaker 3: the UK column. So absolutely fantastic day. We'll take you
- 2:12Speaker 3: in just a few seconds into the day itself. But
- 2:16Speaker 3: we thought that we should start with that fantastic view
- 2:20Speaker 3: over Plymouth Sound in the sunshine with a lot of very,
- 2:24Speaker 3: very happy people, because it was clear that the style
- 2:29Speaker 3: and flow of our events, the subjects, the entertainments, everybody
- 2:34Speaker 3: thoroughly enjoyed themselves. And it was utterly brilliant to end
- 2:38Speaker 3: up with such a huge burst of positive energy.
- 2:42Speaker 1: It really was, yeah. A great weekend. One for the
- 2:44Speaker 1: history books, I think. Indeed.
- 2:46Speaker 3: So I'd just like to, before we have a look
- 2:48Speaker 3: at some of the conference itself, I'd like to say
- 2:50Speaker 3: to people, first of all, a huge thank you from
- 2:55Speaker 3: me to the UK column team, because as we keep saying,
- 2:59Speaker 3: we are a very small team. We worked extremely hard
- 3:03Speaker 3: to make this conference happen. It's very clear to us
- 3:07Speaker 3: that it was a huge success. But of course, it
- 3:10Speaker 3: wouldn't have been a success without the audience present. So
- 3:13Speaker 3: a huge thank you to everybody who bought a ticket
- 3:17Speaker 3: and a particular thank you to our longstanding members and supporters,
- 3:23Speaker 3: because without you, the UK column wouldn't be here in
- 3:26Speaker 3: the first place. So 20th anniversary event. It was really,
- 3:32Speaker 3: incredible for the longer term members of the uk column
- 3:36Speaker 3: team because in fact our very first uk column office
- 3:40Speaker 3: we didn't even have a studio in the beginning was
- 3:43Speaker 3: a mere 50 yards from the hotel itself uh here's
- 3:48Speaker 3: a picture of one of the entrances into the crown
- 3:51Speaker 3: plaza hotel in plymouth um it was a fantastic day
- 3:56Speaker 3: as you can see great to see the uk column
- 3:59Speaker 3: uh banners and um The Crowne Plaza staff were also tremendous. Well,
- 4:07Speaker 3: they were brilliant, weren't they, Ben, in helping us set up.
- 4:10Speaker 3: And if we have a look at the scale of
- 4:12Speaker 3: what we put together, this was some of the preparation
- 4:16Speaker 3: in the main events hall in the Crowne Plaza Hotel.
- 4:21Speaker 3: It was a really fantastic stage, as we will come
- 4:24Speaker 3: on to. But we'd like to also give a big
- 4:27Speaker 3: thank you to the local media team, PL1, who worked
- 4:32Speaker 3: with us to create a pretty fantastic event. Real pros.
- 4:38Speaker 3: Real professional team. And if we just get into a
- 4:43Speaker 3: little bit more of the action, if you like, well,
- 4:46Speaker 3: of course, we had Charles Mallett acting as compere. He
- 4:51Speaker 3: did an extremely good job with a mixture of courtesy, humour,
- 4:58Speaker 3: and some firm control over the audience. So we had
- 5:01Speaker 3: them in the right place at the right time, doing
- 5:04Speaker 3: the right things. And that was very important because it
- 5:08Speaker 3: was a very busy weekend. And I think everything ran perfectly, Ben.
- 5:14Speaker 2: I think it was pretty much on time the whole weekend,
- 5:16Speaker 2: which is extraordinary, actually. I mean, you look at all
- 5:18Speaker 2: the moving parts.
- 5:19Speaker 3: Indeed. So I'll just take our viewers today through some
- 5:24Speaker 3: of the speakers. I haven't got all of them. We
- 5:26Speaker 3: haven't had time to do that. It was a mere
- 5:28Speaker 3: 17 hours ago since the team was still in the
- 5:31Speaker 3: hotel tidying up. But we had a mix of happy
- 5:36Speaker 3: and more serious talks. This was Raj Amir, who kicked
- 5:40Speaker 3: off on Friday talking about the cover up of the
- 5:43Speaker 3: grooming gangs and pointing a particular finger at the Labour Party.
- 5:49Speaker 3: Keir Starmer and Andy Burnham, which should resonate with people
- 5:53Speaker 3: because Andy Burnham is now, of course, our prime minister.
- 5:57Speaker 3: But the audience were absolutely enthralled with the detail and
- 6:02Speaker 3: the sincerity and the evidence that Roger Meir put across.
- 6:07Speaker 3: And there was actually a huge standing ovation at the
- 6:10Speaker 3: end of that. So end of his talk. So we
- 6:13Speaker 3: want to thank Roger very much for coming down. And
- 6:17Speaker 3: I'll say to our wider audience that having a chat
- 6:20Speaker 3: with him meant that we started to discuss the possibility
- 6:24Speaker 3: of expanding the breadth of our audience. And who knows,
- 6:29Speaker 3: we may be heading north at some stage in the
- 6:32Speaker 3: future in order to capture a greater audience base. So
- 6:37Speaker 3: some really exciting things came out of that. I'll just
- 6:40Speaker 3: pop on the next one, which is Kate Markland. Kate,
- 6:44Speaker 3: One of the mums that I did an interview with,
- 6:47Speaker 3: she's been alienated from her son. Let's see whether that'll play.
- 6:52Speaker 3: And she sat on stage, and I have to give
- 6:55Speaker 3: huge credit to this very brave lady, very nervous, but
- 6:59Speaker 3: she taught the audience through some of the really emotional
- 7:03Speaker 3: and difficult paths of what it is like to engage
- 7:09Speaker 3: with or rather be hammered by the family court's And
- 7:13Speaker 3: she brought along some really brilliant images of the storybooks
- 7:17Speaker 3: that she's written with her son. And I was very interested, Ben,
- 7:21Speaker 3: to see the reaction to Kate, because people absolutely got
- 7:27Speaker 3: caught up in the emotion of that story.
- 7:29Speaker 1: Absolutely.
- 7:30Speaker 2: I think it was extremely emotional. And I've spoken to
- 7:35Speaker 2: Kate before on a couple of occasions, and the story
- 7:38Speaker 2: is just incredible. You know, it's almost... Sounds like a
- 7:43Speaker 2: Hollywood script, actually, all of the different events and how
- 7:46Speaker 2: she dealt with them and the outcomes that have come
- 7:50Speaker 2: out of the whole process so far.
- 7:52Speaker 3: Yeah, so happy and sad elements to the talk. But
- 7:55Speaker 3: apart from anything else, that was giving other mothers and
- 7:59Speaker 3: parents who are suffering at the hands of the vicious
- 8:02Speaker 3: Star Chamber Family Courts of the UK, it was giving
- 8:04Speaker 3: them a really positive message. Now, we also had another
- 8:08Speaker 3: one of the UK column team, Basil Valentine himself, looking
- 8:13Speaker 3: very dapper in his cream jacket, and a poignant headline
- 8:17Speaker 3: of humanity versus insanity, because of course, this is one
- 8:21Speaker 3: of the key topics of Ian Crane, who many, many
- 8:25Speaker 3: years ago set up Alternative View. There's Ian on screen.
- 8:29Speaker 3: And it was Ian that invited UK column team to
- 8:33Speaker 3: speak at his event on And from then on, we
- 8:36Speaker 3: had a very positive working relationship. So I felt whilst
- 8:41Speaker 3: I was in the hall that Ian would be looking
- 8:44Speaker 3: down on us. He's no longer with us, I'm afraid,
- 8:46Speaker 3: but I thought he'd be looking down on us. Very,
- 8:49Speaker 3: very pleased to see his style of event so well attended.
- 8:55Speaker 3: And Basil did an extremely good talk. And of course,
- 8:59Speaker 3: all of these talks will be available online.
- 9:02Speaker 1: In the future.
- 9:03Speaker 3: We're just processing them at the moment. Now, many of
- 9:07Speaker 3: our viewers will recognize this particular gentleman. It's Patrick Henningsen.
- 9:12Speaker 3: And Patrick gave a really fantastic talk, largely based on
- 9:17Speaker 3: his recent reporting of his time in Iran. And of course,
- 9:23Speaker 3: the thing that he was stressing was that he was
- 9:26Speaker 3: on the street surrounded by millions of Iranians whilst having
- 9:32Speaker 3: a flag pinned on his chest as part of his
- 9:35Speaker 3: identification as being pressed. What he was inferring to was
- 9:40Speaker 3: it was like having a target put on his chest.
- 9:42Speaker 3: But in fact, he said every single person that he
- 9:46Speaker 3: interacted with was very calm and polite and peaceful. And
- 9:51Speaker 3: so he contrasted this with the brutal misinformation and disinformation
- 9:56Speaker 3: of BBC reporting on Iran. Now, who have we got here?
- 10:03Speaker 3: This is Lucy Morgan Edwards. She also spoke early at
- 10:07Speaker 3: the conference. She did a really good slot talking about 9-11.
- 10:12Speaker 3: And of course, it's clear that when you get a professional,
- 10:15Speaker 3: highly educated lady like Lucy Morgan, digging into the narrative
- 10:21Speaker 3: that the ordinary person is told about 9-11. There are
- 10:25Speaker 3: so many holes and inconsistencies that the official narrative cannot
- 10:30Speaker 3: be true. And it was really brilliant to listen and
- 10:36Speaker 3: watch and see what she had to say. Now, big
- 10:40Speaker 3: focus must come on to a key part of this event,
- 10:45Speaker 3: which is, let's see whether we can get Mike Robinson
- 10:48Speaker 3: out in action there because Mike Robinson was talking about
- 10:52Speaker 3: the future of UK column. And this was really a
- 10:56Speaker 3: key thing. We've reached 20 years. It's great to consider
- 11:00Speaker 3: that anniversary and look back, but essentially the important thing
- 11:06Speaker 3: is where we go now. And Mike was not only
- 11:10Speaker 3: setting out a little bit of the magnificent work that
- 11:13Speaker 3: he and the technical team have done to produce applications
- 11:19Speaker 3: and programs to help how we compile and present news
- 11:23Speaker 3: and research. But he also indicated that the UK column
- 11:28Speaker 3: team are so keen to take the UK column into
- 11:34Speaker 3: a new level. We could be where we are. We
- 11:37Speaker 3: could be sort of harping back to our roots. But essentially,
- 11:42Speaker 3: we want to move on and we want to do
- 11:45Speaker 3: bigger and greater things. Now, if I've got the sequence
- 11:49Speaker 3: right in these slides, we also had a surprise guest.
- 11:54Speaker 3: And if you can't quite see who it is on screen,
- 11:57Speaker 3: this is Sukrit Bhakti. He's a retired Thai-German microbiologist. And
- 12:05Speaker 3: of course, he was incredibly outspoken during COVID-19 scandemic and lockdown.
- 12:12Speaker 2: And extremely elegant as well, eloquent in his criticism of
- 12:16Speaker 2: what was happening.
- 12:17Speaker 1: Yes, very calm.
- 12:18Speaker 3: We can see him being presented with a cartoon picture
- 12:22Speaker 3: by Germ on screen, which I think went down extremely well.
- 12:27Speaker 3: But we were really delighted that Sukhraj Bhakti had decided
- 12:33Speaker 3: he wanted to come to the UK Column event today.
- 12:36Speaker 3: not just to give a little bit of history about
- 12:38Speaker 3: his work during the COVID period, but also to say
- 12:42Speaker 3: that he's involved at the moment with some really important
- 12:47Speaker 3: work around possible therapies for people who've suffered at the
- 12:51Speaker 3: hands of vaccines. And he has said to the audience
- 12:57Speaker 3: of our UK column event that he will be promoting
- 13:03Speaker 3: vaccines his research and findings through the UK column. So
- 13:07Speaker 3: that was a great, absolute great honour for the UK
- 13:11Speaker 3: column team. And it's particularly pertinent as we have started
- 13:16Speaker 3: to engage with the Reiner Formick team. Reiner Formick, still
- 13:22Speaker 3: in prison, and there's a lot of his story still
- 13:26Speaker 3: to come out. So I think matters around COVID-19 and
- 13:30Speaker 3: lockdown are going to come to the to the fore. Now,
- 13:35Speaker 3: if we touched on some serious subjects in UK column
- 13:39Speaker 3: 20th anniversary, we also did ensure that our audience was
- 13:45Speaker 3: lifted up. And probably there was no better way for
- 13:49Speaker 3: this to happen than by the wonderful work of Jonathan,
- 13:56Speaker 3: who flew a falcon live in the room. And many
- 14:02Speaker 3: people absolutely thrilled with this.
- 14:06Speaker 1: Um jonathan marshall just fantastic.
- 14:08Speaker 3: Thank you yeah absolutely fantastic and it was very interesting
- 14:13Speaker 3: to see how how we went from yes some quite
- 14:17Speaker 3: heavy subjects but then we had some birds brought into
- 14:21Speaker 3: into that huge presentation space and they were flying freely
- 14:26Speaker 3: and close above the heads of the audience.
- 14:28Speaker 1: They certainly were, and also just an extraordinary personality.
- 14:31Speaker 2: I mean, it just radiated out of him on stage,
- 14:34Speaker 2: and he was singing and telling jokes and reciting poems
- 14:39Speaker 2: and telling us about his life.
- 14:40Speaker 1: It was quite something. Indeed.
- 14:43Speaker 3: I'm just going to bring, or ask William if he'll
- 14:46Speaker 3: just pop that image back on screen, the previous, I'm sorry,
- 14:50Speaker 3: that one. Let's say to the audience... Just watch the
- 14:55Speaker 3: clip very carefully and you can see how low, shall
- 14:58Speaker 3: we do it one more time? You can see how
- 15:00Speaker 3: low that bird flies over the heads of the audience.
- 15:04Speaker 3: It was utterly, it was utterly lovely. And if anybody
- 15:09Speaker 3: was sort of worried, the birds were very disturbed while
- 15:12Speaker 3: they'd been brought into the space beforehand to a couple
- 15:16Speaker 3: of days before to acclimatise. But if we had birds
- 15:21Speaker 3: flying at the UK Column, event, we also had something very,
- 15:25Speaker 3: very special, unique in fact. Let's have a look at
- 15:29Speaker 3: this clip and you'll understand what it was on your own.
- 15:34Speaker 3: Perhaps I'll do a bit of narrating here for the audience,
- 15:38Speaker 3: because we've got a horse trailer, we've got Jonathan Marshall,
- 15:42Speaker 3: and we've got a fantastic horse Amadeus backing out of
- 15:47Speaker 3: the trailer, black beautifully groomed, shining coat. And yes, this
- 15:54Speaker 3: horse is being led through the doors into the UK
- 15:58Speaker 3: column event arena. And of course, this was at a
- 16:03Speaker 3: particular point in Jonathan Marshall's presentation. So the audience had
- 16:08Speaker 3: no idea what was going to happen. But that's absolutely brilliant.
- 16:14Speaker 3: Fantastic to see this horse come into the room.
- 16:16Speaker 2: What a character the horse was. Recently featured in a
- 16:20Speaker 2: Lloyd's Bank advert, it was actually the Lloyd's horse.
- 16:23Speaker 1: The black horse. Yes, absolutely.
- 16:25Speaker 5: Yes.
- 16:25Speaker 2: And then also in Game of Thrones, it was one
- 16:27Speaker 2: of the horses of one of the White Walkers. If
- 16:30Speaker 2: you were a Game of Thrones fan, Jonathan was one
- 16:33Speaker 2: of the White Walkers and Amadeus was his horse. after
- 16:38Speaker 2: quite a lot of application and makeup by the sounds
- 16:40Speaker 2: of it i think they were both in makeup for
- 16:42Speaker 2: two or three hours a day so yes.
- 16:44Speaker 3: Um that was a real treat what we witnessed was
- 16:47Speaker 3: this very calm horse very big very calm horse just
- 16:53Speaker 3: bringing a delightful atmosphere into the event which absolutely resonated
- 16:59Speaker 3: with the audience and i'd like to say thank you
- 17:03Speaker 3: so much to all the people who spoke to us
- 17:05Speaker 3: on the day and said how wonderful that component part
- 17:10Speaker 3: of the event was and how brilliant it was to
- 17:13Speaker 3: see a horse just calmly walk into the event. So
- 17:19Speaker 3: we'll just say to summarise, we did try our best
- 17:23Speaker 3: to give people an entertaining weekend as well as take
- 17:27Speaker 3: them into some of the darker and more serious political
- 17:31Speaker 3: and and other subjects that they need to know. Now, overall,
- 17:37Speaker 3: what were we looking for in the event? It was
- 17:39Speaker 3: whether the UK column has made a difference in our
- 17:42Speaker 3: 20 years. We just pop up that big banner on screen.
- 17:47Speaker 1: There it is.
- 17:47Speaker 3: Has the UK column made a difference? Well, of course,
- 17:51Speaker 3: we can also say that we know we've made a
- 17:54Speaker 3: difference when certain things happen. So let's get these images
- 17:59Speaker 3: up on screen. When the police turn up at your home,
- 18:03Speaker 3: which they've done on several occasions for me to try
- 18:05Speaker 3: and intimidate me, but they've also turned up on occasions
- 18:09Speaker 3: at the UK Column Studios to intimidate the team for
- 18:13Speaker 3: our reporting on the abuse of children. When this happens,
- 18:17Speaker 3: you know you're making a difference. You also know you're
- 18:20Speaker 3: making a difference when UKC journalists are stopped and questioned
- 18:25Speaker 3: by airport border force team, and certainly this has happened
- 18:29Speaker 3: to Alex Thompson, but Patrick Henningsen's also experienced things in
- 18:34Speaker 3: the state. The state is interested in us, and there
- 18:37Speaker 3: can only be one reason, and that is that they
- 18:41Speaker 3: are fearful of the accurate reporting by the UK column.
- 18:46Speaker 3: We also know we made a difference when my particular
- 18:51Speaker 3: laptop was hacked by 77 Brigade and files destroyed, some
- 18:57Speaker 3: of them work files, some of them personal files. But
- 19:00Speaker 3: the ones which really made me think is that a
- 19:02Speaker 3: file was destroyed, which had very unique audio segments given
- 19:11Speaker 3: to me by a survivor of abuse. So the government
- 19:16Speaker 3: said it was going to use the Army 77 Brigade
- 19:19Speaker 3: to hack and interrupt and disrupt things. any members of
- 19:25Speaker 3: the public that were challenging the government on its policy
- 19:29Speaker 3: over COVID-19 and lockdown. And sure enough, my computer was hacked.
- 19:34Speaker 3: And I have very, very good reason to believe that
- 19:37Speaker 3: it was a 77 Brigade team that did it. So
- 19:41Speaker 3: clearly UK column making an effect. But this one produced
- 19:45Speaker 3: a laugh from the audience. You know that you've made
- 19:47Speaker 3: an effect when a deep state or this is Chris O'Donnelly,
- 19:52Speaker 3: the man associated with the Integrity Initiative. He came face
- 19:56Speaker 3: to face with some of the UK column team in London.
- 20:00Speaker 3: And when I said, how did he look? The reply
- 20:04Speaker 3: was he looked like a cat caught in the headlights
- 20:06Speaker 3: of a car. So that produced many smiles. And also,
- 20:11Speaker 3: we couldn't resist this one, but you know you're having
- 20:14Speaker 3: an effect when the BBC's misinformation priestess, I've forgotten her name, actually,
- 20:20Speaker 3: so important.
- 20:21Speaker 2: Well, Santa Mariana, according to the people who made this
- 20:24Speaker 2: triptych we talked about last week.
- 20:26Speaker 1: Absolutely. Mariana Spring. Yeah. God love her.
- 20:30Speaker 3: But she doesn't want to see us, and I think
- 20:32Speaker 3: there's a reason for that. But poor old Mariana, she
- 20:36Speaker 3: did look a very, Nice young lady, very relaxed, sort
- 20:40Speaker 3: of open face. And now she's got that rather drawn
- 20:44Speaker 3: face that we see with many people who work from
- 20:46Speaker 3: the BBC. And I think this is when you work
- 20:49Speaker 3: in an organisation which your conscience really doesn't want you
- 20:54Speaker 3: to do.
- 20:55Speaker 1: Takes a toll on the spirit, I would say.
- 20:57Speaker 3: I think that's what it is. But can we end
- 21:00Speaker 3: there and just on that segment and say, utterly utterly
- 21:04Speaker 3: brilliant weekend all of the uk column team enjoyed it
- 21:08Speaker 3: tremendous work by many people especially jemma cooper who did
- 21:12Speaker 3: the the main arrangements for the conference but the wonderful
- 21:17Speaker 3: thing for the uk column team was the thank yous
- 21:20Speaker 3: we received on the day and the emails that are
- 21:23Speaker 3: coming into us uh post the event to say it
- 21:26Speaker 3: was brilliant yeah there we are.
- 21:28Speaker 2: It really was and um You know, having left the
- 21:33Speaker 2: conference on such a high, I actually didn't think that
- 21:35Speaker 2: my Sunday could get much better.
- 21:38Speaker 1: But then I.
- 21:38Speaker 2: Arrived home and found out that this gentleman is bringing
- 21:43Speaker 2: back hope. And this is the cult of personality that's
- 21:48Speaker 2: being built up around Andy Burnham. The fact that he's
- 21:51Speaker 2: just a normal guy like you and me. He likes
- 21:53Speaker 2: chips and beer and football and Johnny Marr and Manchester Grey.
- 21:57Speaker 1: And I think they're going to spring a general election.
- 22:00Speaker 1: What do you reckon, Brian? If you start seeing the
- 22:03Speaker 1: prime minister put through your letterbox, is something in the offing?
- 22:06Speaker 3: Well, I could believe this is the case because they
- 22:09Speaker 3: know they're in a very fragile position at the moment
- 22:11Speaker 3: and that And for him to be able to finish
- 22:14Speaker 3: destroying the country, they need to have him in power
- 22:19Speaker 3: for his full term.
- 22:20Speaker 6: Yes.
- 22:20Speaker 3: And then he can unleash the final devolution and breakup
- 22:24Speaker 3: of the country.
- 22:26Speaker 1: Absolutely, yes.
- 22:26Speaker 2: Because I think they probably, despite all of the spin
- 22:29Speaker 2: that we're being given, are acutely aware that he doesn't
- 22:32Speaker 2: actually have any legitimacy.
- 22:35Speaker 6: No.
- 22:35Speaker 1: He hasn't won a general election.
- 22:37Speaker 2: And they're talking about the total transformation of our political
- 22:39Speaker 2: and economic system. And in order to do that, I
- 22:43Speaker 2: think that this looks to me like they're going to
- 22:45Speaker 2: start moving towards going to the country. So perhaps next spring,
- 22:49Speaker 2: who knows? It certainly won't be this side of Christmas.
- 22:52Speaker 3: I'll just add to that, Ben. It's a shame that
- 22:54Speaker 3: with the Andy Burnham leaflet doesn't also come a leaflet
- 22:59Speaker 3: from Roger Meir himself. Spelling out the evidence, really, that
- 23:03Speaker 3: the cover up of the abuse of children by the
- 23:06Speaker 3: Labour administration and both Keir Starmer's and Andy Burnham's names
- 23:12Speaker 3: are clearly, how do we say, on the edge of this.
- 23:17Speaker 1: Yes.
- 23:17Speaker 3: That people really need to think, do we want this
- 23:21Speaker 3: man as prime minister?
- 23:22Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a very good point, Brian. Now,
- 23:25Speaker 2: what are they talking about here? So we've got a
- 23:27Speaker 2: little bit of a glimpse into policy. Most of this
- 23:29Speaker 2: stuff's already been announced, of course. So the idea that
- 23:32Speaker 2: he's going to end rough sleeping when actually when he
- 23:35Speaker 2: was mayor of Manchester, rough sleeping went up. I think
- 23:37Speaker 2: it doubled, in fact, while he was mayor of Manchester.
- 23:40Speaker 2: So not sure what lessons he's going to bring with him.
- 23:42Speaker 2: Cutting VAT on electricity bills, which is, I think, worked
- 23:47Speaker 2: out about £ 40 a year for each family or something
- 23:50Speaker 2: like that.
- 23:50Speaker 1: So really.
- 23:51Speaker 2: you know, negligible stuff, capping bus fares, introducing a 20%
- 23:56Speaker 2: business rate cuts for pubs, clubs and live music venues,
- 23:59Speaker 2: which I think is probably a good thing, but it's
- 24:01Speaker 2: really just kind of bread and circuses stuff, isn't it,
- 24:04Speaker 2: to keep people distracted. Fix the broken social care system.
- 24:07Speaker 2: Who did break the social care system? Were there any
- 24:09Speaker 2: Labour politicians involved in that, do you think?
- 24:12Speaker 3: Absolutely, because all of the parties have done it. It's
- 24:16Speaker 3: a uniparty system. The colour changes, but the destructive... Policies
- 24:22Speaker 3: have continued over a great many years.
- 24:24Speaker 2: Yes, they certainly have. And then the big thing, of course,
- 24:27Speaker 2: tackling youth unemployment. And we'll come back to that in
- 24:30Speaker 2: a moment because the headline message is obviously about hope.
- 24:35Speaker 2: This is all about hope that Britain can regain its stability. Well,
- 24:39Speaker 2: these are the people that destabilise the country. So there's
- 24:42Speaker 2: hope that we can regain stability. And it's quite an
- 24:44Speaker 2: extraordinary statement. But then also hope that we can build
- 24:46Speaker 2: a new sense of unity, common purpose and positivity. Really
- 24:51Speaker 2: interesting to see those two words there, Brian.
- 24:52Speaker 1: Common purpose.
- 24:54Speaker 3: Not for me, Ben. I have to say, having tracked
- 24:58Speaker 3: common purpose since its start in the UK and, of course,
- 25:03Speaker 3: exposing that common purpose was embedded in the office of
- 25:07Speaker 3: the Deputy Prime Minister during Tony Blair's era. Common Purpose,
- 25:12Speaker 3: although it calls itself a charity, is in fact a
- 25:15Speaker 3: political initiative running alongside and through particularly the Labour Party.
- 25:21Speaker 3: And its agenda is to help destroy the existing country
- 25:27Speaker 3: in order to build a new society to their model,
- 25:31Speaker 3: which is a society I don't think we want.
- 25:34Speaker 1: Certainly not.
- 25:35Speaker 2: And I would say probably not just Labour, it's all
- 25:39Speaker 2: of the parties and actually increasingly not just this country.
- 25:43Speaker 2: Common Purpose is operating internationally and this is really at
- 25:48Speaker 2: the core of what we're dealing with here. Now, what's
- 25:54Speaker 2: Burnham saying in terms of the transformation of our economic fortunes? Now,
- 25:58Speaker 2: he's been talking in The Guardian last week here about
- 26:02Speaker 2: the fact that the British people understand the climate crisis
- 26:05Speaker 2: threat and that today that he's going to empower them, i.e.
- 26:08Speaker 1: Us to tackle it.
- 26:10Speaker 2: He then goes to say that there is nearly 30
- 26:12Speaker 2: million pounds of funding that he's giving to communities to
- 26:16Speaker 2: take power over their local energy. And he says they
- 26:19Speaker 2: know the gravity of global heating.
- 26:23Speaker 1: They want to be part of the solution. It's not
- 26:24Speaker 1: just global warming or climate.
- 26:25Speaker 2: Change, it's global heating, according to Andy Burnham. They're ramping
- 26:29Speaker 2: up the rhetoric around this stuff. I've got to say,
- 26:32Speaker 2: it's fascinating looking at these policy announcements coming out because
- 26:37Speaker 2: £ 30 million of funding for the whole country in the
- 26:40Speaker 2: energy sector is barely even a rounding error. The energy
- 26:46Speaker 2: infrastructure in this country is worth at least £ 100 billion,
- 26:51Speaker 2: at least. And he's saying £ 30 million.
- 26:54Speaker 3: Well, what we're seeing here, Ben, is what you've absolutely
- 26:57Speaker 3: pointed out in Plymouth and other cities, which is this
- 27:02Speaker 3: will be given out as a few thousand pounds into
- 27:05Speaker 3: little community groups. They'll get very excited because they're being
- 27:10Speaker 3: given some money, a few thousand pounds. They help build
- 27:14Speaker 3: and install Andy Burnham's central policy on clients. temperature, sorry,
- 27:22Speaker 3: what was that expression used?
- 27:23Speaker 1: Global heating.
- 27:23Speaker 3: Global heating, thank you. So this is where you see
- 27:27Speaker 3: central political manipulation of local communities so that they build
- 27:34Speaker 3: the policy the central government wants. It's deeply cynical.
- 27:39Speaker 1: And they get.
- 27:39Speaker 2: Strung along as well because 30 million is nothing. It's
- 27:42Speaker 2: just nothing. That wouldn't even be that much for a postcode,
- 27:46Speaker 2: let alone the entire nation. So You know, these things
- 27:51Speaker 2: get announced. That's a headline article, thought piece in a
- 27:55Speaker 2: major national and international news publication, The Guardian. And people
- 28:00Speaker 2: are going to get hope from this. He's talking a
- 28:02Speaker 2: lot about hope, but they're not really going to get
- 28:04Speaker 2: much else, actually. Now, I think the rhetoric around the
- 28:09Speaker 2: climate crisis, I think, is really important.
- 28:11Speaker 1: He's really doubling down on this.
- 28:13Speaker 2: He says in that article that the climate crisis is
- 28:15Speaker 2: not a distant threat. It is here and with us now.
- 28:18Speaker 2: But that it presents an enormous challenge and possibility that
- 28:22Speaker 2: in the coming years, we're going to have to change
- 28:24Speaker 2: the way that we travel, we build homes, that we
- 28:26Speaker 2: produce energy, and that he sees the green transition as
- 28:30Speaker 2: the best chance we will ever have to re-industrialize Britain.
- 28:33Speaker 2: So this green transition is the globalist policy for the
- 28:38Speaker 2: economic system. So that's a new fourth industrial revolution, highly extractive,
- 28:44Speaker 2: going to move us to a completely new economic model,
- 28:47Speaker 2: while at the same time building a digitally enabled surveillance state.
- 28:52Speaker 2: This is the Trojan horse. It's being presented as the
- 28:55Speaker 2: only solution to fixing the economic problems in the country,
- 29:01Speaker 2: solving the cost of living crisis. This is what youth
- 29:03Speaker 2: employment is going to be all about. This is what
- 29:05Speaker 2: number 10 in the North is all about. It's what
- 29:06Speaker 2: he talks about. And when they're going on constantly about
- 29:09Speaker 2: putting power in every postcode, these types of initiatives where
- 29:13Speaker 2: they say that power is going to be owned by
- 29:15Speaker 2: local people, generated by local people, that's exactly.
- 29:19Speaker 1: What is being put forward here.
- 29:21Speaker 2: Now, that leaflet, I'm actually slightly gutted I wasn't at
- 29:24Speaker 2: home on Sunday because I would have loved to have
- 29:27Speaker 2: opened the door to Luke Pollard, my Plymouth MP. who
- 29:32Speaker 2: was delivering these by hand. This is from his social media.
- 29:35Speaker 2: And he was shouting about the fact that the Labour
- 29:39Speaker 2: government is going to build a new economy. They're going
- 29:41Speaker 2: to put power in every postcode. And that image, if
- 29:44Speaker 2: we can get that back up on screen, that's actually
- 29:46Speaker 2: taken at Tothill Park, which I've talked about quite a
- 29:49Speaker 2: lot recently.
- 29:50Speaker 1: Because this is my local park.
- 29:52Speaker 2: And as regular viewers will know, Um, we've had some
- 29:56Speaker 2: serious dramas down there because the local council or labor
- 30:00Speaker 2: control Plymouth council has, um, caused a local business to
- 30:04Speaker 2: have to move into a temporary location that you can
- 30:06Speaker 2: see there because they came in, in February and closed
- 30:08Speaker 2: down that building, which is the small cafe. And then
- 30:11Speaker 2: the building on the right hand side, which is basically
- 30:15Speaker 2: 60% of the rest of the community center. And, um, uh,
- 30:20Speaker 2: there's been a lot of protests, uh, in the local area.
- 30:24Speaker 2: We talked to Councillor Sue Dan, who's the local councillor
- 30:29Speaker 2: for this area of Plymouth. You can see her on
- 30:31Speaker 2: the left there. And I did a little interview with her. Well,
- 30:34Speaker 2: she looks like a rabbit in the headlights. We're going
- 30:36Speaker 2: to use that phrase again, which we'll put some links to.
- 30:39Speaker 2: So you can go back and watch that if you're
- 30:40Speaker 2: not familiar with it. We were told there was some
- 30:43Speaker 2: good news coming out of the back of this, actually.
- 30:45Speaker 2: So we were given a date for the reopening of
- 30:47Speaker 2: the cafe at the end of October. But then lo
- 30:51Speaker 2: and behold, again, when I got back home yesterday, I
- 30:53Speaker 2: saw this announcement come up from Sudan saying, on Facebook,
- 30:57Speaker 2: and I'll just get to the important bit, which is
- 30:59Speaker 2: that following a leak in building B, the large hall,
- 31:02Speaker 2: which was the only bit of the community centre that
- 31:03Speaker 2: was still open, at Tortill Community Centre, a building safety
- 31:06Speaker 2: issue regarding the integrity of the ceiling in the main
- 31:09Speaker 2: entrance has been identified. Due to this, we've had to
- 31:11Speaker 2: take the difficult decision to temporarily close the building. The
- 31:15Speaker 2: rest of the building has now been shut. So rather
- 31:17Speaker 2: than the thing being opened, which we've been promised for
- 31:21Speaker 2: over six months, they're actually going to shut down the
- 31:24Speaker 2: rest of the building.
- 31:25Speaker 3: So the Labour administration shuts this very important community facility.
- 31:30Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 31:31Speaker 3: And then we have the Labour MP turning up with
- 31:33Speaker 3: Labour councillors to tell you.
- 31:35Speaker 1: How fantastic everything is.
- 31:38Speaker 3: Jam tomorrow with Andy Burnham.
- 31:40Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, yes.
- 31:42Speaker 2: So this is what putting power in every postcode means,
- 31:44Speaker 2: I think, actually, that unaccountable and unelected government officials are
- 31:48Speaker 2: going to come along and shut down and seize your
- 31:50Speaker 2: assets in order to deliver on their own agenda and actually...
- 31:54Speaker 2: My summary of this is that hope is all we
- 31:56Speaker 2: get with these people. We don't get anything else. It's
- 31:59Speaker 2: just hope.
- 32:00Speaker 1: Just hope. Yes.
- 32:02Speaker 2: Anyway, much more on that in future shows, no doubt. Now,
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- 33:05Speaker 2: say actually this, this is a new report that's just
- 33:09Speaker 2: dropped last week. We've got the print copies. So actually
- 33:12Speaker 2: if you can get me back on camera quickly, there
- 33:13Speaker 2: we go. There's my print copy crown and corporation. an
- 33:17Speaker 2: unholy alliance between money and power this is the um
- 33:23Speaker 2: the outcome of probably over a year of my life
- 33:27Speaker 2: actually and probably more in terms of building the the
- 33:31Speaker 2: context around it but a good year of really in-depth
- 33:34Speaker 2: reading and analysis and then actually having to sit down
- 33:37Speaker 2: and write the thing over a period of about three
- 33:39Speaker 2: months and um it's looking really good i've got to
- 33:43Speaker 2: say so i'm thankful you to the whole team who
- 33:46Speaker 2: helped put this together, including the fantastic designer that we
- 33:49Speaker 2: work with. And essentially what we're looking at here is
- 33:55Speaker 2: a short and sharp history of the development of the
- 33:59Speaker 2: international governance infrastructure that we're currently being subjected to, right?
- 34:03Speaker 2: So all of the things that we report on at
- 34:06Speaker 2: UK column in the political and the economic systems, what's
- 34:10Speaker 2: happening culturally in this country, across the EU, and globally
- 34:15Speaker 2: through bodies like the UN has actually just come out
- 34:18Speaker 2: of nowhere. It's actually come because of a series of
- 34:21Speaker 2: decisions that have been made and institutions that have been
- 34:23Speaker 2: built over hundreds of years.
- 34:25Speaker 1: So we're going to look at who the key actors.
- 34:27Speaker 2: Were, some of the individuals and those groups that have
- 34:31Speaker 2: architected this whole system. We look to the roots of
- 34:34Speaker 2: the international banking system and the Bank of International Settlements,
- 34:38Speaker 2: where that came from, what it's doing, how it's centralizing
- 34:40Speaker 2: wealth and centralizing power. We look at the hidden hand
- 34:45Speaker 2: of dynastic wealth and the charitable, supposedly charitable foundations that
- 34:50Speaker 2: we talk about that actually write a lot of the
- 34:52Speaker 2: legislation that we gets put out there into our societies.
- 34:58Speaker 2: We look at the Fabian society, the wolves in sheep's clothing,
- 35:01Speaker 2: these kind of Fabian socialists who talk about universal brotherhood
- 35:07Speaker 2: but are actually building a vicious global dictatorship. And importantly,
- 35:13Speaker 2: we look at a lot of the secret networks that
- 35:15Speaker 2: have been operating behind the scenes over centuries to build
- 35:19Speaker 2: the case for things like perpetual... conflict, right? So actually,
- 35:26Speaker 2: one of the organisations that we talk about in the
- 35:29Speaker 2: report is the Roundtable, which was founded by Lord Milner,
- 35:34Speaker 2: who also then went on to write the Balfour Declaration,
- 35:39Speaker 2: to found Chatham House, the Royal Institute of International Affairs,
- 35:43Speaker 2: one of the most influential people in global policy and
- 35:48Speaker 2: governance over the past several centuries, who most people have
- 35:52Speaker 2: never heard of. You can see this article, which is
- 35:57Speaker 2: from the first edition, the first issue of the Roundtable magazine,
- 36:00Speaker 2: which came out in 1910, where they're talking about the
- 36:04Speaker 2: Anglo-German rivalry. And this is an absolutely perfect example of
- 36:10Speaker 2: how the propaganda push towards a war with Russia that
- 36:14Speaker 2: we're seeing at the moment is a tried and tested
- 36:18Speaker 2: formula that's been used many times before. So this is
- 36:21Speaker 2: from 1910. where they talk about the central fact in
- 36:24Speaker 2: the international situation today being the antagonism between England and Germany.
- 36:28Speaker 2: It is the universal element which every foreign minister has
- 36:31Speaker 2: to take into account in appraising his country's fortunes. And
- 36:34Speaker 2: it is the topic which dominates all others in the
- 36:36Speaker 2: columns of the world press, which are devoted to the
- 36:38Speaker 2: discussion of foreign affairs. Four years later, we enter the
- 36:42Speaker 2: First World War, millions dead on all sides. And the
- 36:48Speaker 2: groundwork from that laid for the Second World War, which
- 36:53Speaker 2: obviously started just over 20 years after that, more millions dead.
- 36:58Speaker 2: And actually, we were up on Plymouth Hove on the
- 37:03Speaker 2: weekend looking at the war memorial. We took a bit
- 37:05Speaker 2: of a break to get some fresh air from the conference.
- 37:08Speaker 2: And you can see here the extraordinary memorial for the
- 37:14Speaker 2: dead from both of those world wars.
- 37:17Speaker 1: All of these.
- 37:18Speaker 2: Individuals, individual human beings who were slaughtered in pointless conflicts
- 37:25Speaker 2: that were initiated at the behest of a transnational ruling
- 37:31Speaker 2: class who want to make as much money as possible
- 37:36Speaker 2: from military, industrial, apparatus and warfare and to play power
- 37:45Speaker 2: games at the expense of everyday people. And unfortunately, this
- 37:50Speaker 2: stuff is happening continuously. It's not gone away. It's the
- 37:54Speaker 2: same organizations, really, you know, the different individuals, because obviously
- 37:59Speaker 2: 100 years has gone past, but it's the same groups,
- 38:02Speaker 2: the same networks that are promoting the agenda. And of course,
- 38:06Speaker 2: our own vaunted BBC is right in the thick of this.
- 38:12Speaker 2: So this article was very widely circulated at the end
- 38:17Speaker 2: of last week.
- 38:17Speaker 1: This idea that war may be coming. Are we psychologically ready?
- 38:21Speaker 2: So you can see the drumbeat for kinetic warfare with
- 38:26Speaker 2: Russia is absolutely picking up.
- 38:29Speaker 3: And BBC Central too. And we have a bit more
- 38:31Speaker 3: to say on the BBC in a moment. Yeah, we
- 38:34Speaker 3: absolutely do. Patrick talked about this.
- 38:37Speaker 2: In his excellent presentation on Saturday afternoon at the UK Conference.
- 38:42Speaker 2: So this was a central topic to the entire weekend.
- 38:48Speaker 2: And one thing that's been noticed on social media on
- 38:53Speaker 2: this particular issue, not least by Morgoth, is.
- 38:56Speaker 1: That we're actually now beginning to see white men in
- 38:59Speaker 1: ads again.
- 39:00Speaker 2: Only when it relates to a very specific set of topics.
- 39:05Speaker 3: Get them on the battlefield so that you can kill
- 39:07Speaker 3: them off.
- 39:07Speaker 1: Yes, exactly.
- 39:08Speaker 3: It's all becoming a little bit obvious. And one of
- 39:12Speaker 3: the threads through the UK column event at the weekend
- 39:16Speaker 3: was having a look at some of the hidden, the
- 39:19Speaker 3: occult symbology, where you can clearly see a statement as
- 39:25Speaker 3: to what the real policy is. It's just under the surface,
- 39:28Speaker 3: hidden in plain sight. And I think one of the
- 39:30Speaker 3: important jobs that UK Column's done over the years is
- 39:33Speaker 3: to help ordinary people see through this and understand it.
- 39:38Speaker 3: So the fact we're reporting it so easily today is
- 39:41Speaker 3: a good thing.
- 39:42Speaker 1: It certainly is.
- 39:44Speaker 3: Well, let's just move on to the dear old BBC,
- 39:49Speaker 3: the Auntie Beeb. And this was a screenshot of the
- 39:54Speaker 3: Welcome to the BBC News headline page this morning. It's
- 39:59Speaker 3: full of dark, very depressing news. But one thing caught
- 40:03Speaker 3: my eye in particular was this article. It said, young
- 40:06Speaker 3: people aren't snowflakes. Mental distress is rising, says head of
- 40:12Speaker 3: official review. And for me, this is the BBC gloating
- 40:16Speaker 3: that it's deeply upsetting style of reporting over so many subjects.
- 40:23Speaker 3: I mean, on the screen, we've got gang abuse survivors
- 40:28Speaker 3: talking out rape and abuse. The BBC is not investigating
- 40:32Speaker 3: the causes and the proper solutions. It seems to be
- 40:36Speaker 3: getting a thrill out of pumping very dark stuff into
- 40:39Speaker 3: people's minds. And we want to remind... everybody that of
- 40:44Speaker 3: course it was our own government and its mind space
- 40:47Speaker 3: initiative through the cabinet office in 2010 that was boasting
- 40:52Speaker 3: of its ability to interfere with normal thought processes in
- 40:58Speaker 3: the population in the united kingdom how deep did it
- 41:02Speaker 3: go well this was a key statement because that and
- 41:06Speaker 3: they were talking about their own ability in this psychological
- 41:09Speaker 3: field That means that citizens may not fully realise that
- 41:14Speaker 3: their behaviour is being changed, or at least how it
- 41:18Speaker 3: is being changed. Clearly, this opens up the government to
- 41:21Speaker 3: charges of manipulation. Well, the UK column has led that charge,
- 41:27Speaker 3: that accusatory charge of manipulation, over 20 years. But to
- 41:33Speaker 3: help people really understand it, and all credit to Zaghir Bakhti,
- 41:40Speaker 3: in warning about COVID, it was during the COVID period
- 41:43Speaker 3: that the government's scientific body, SAGE, used an internal psychological
- 41:50Speaker 3: scientific body, SPY-B, to attack the population. And this was
- 41:56Speaker 3: part of the minutes of a meeting released to the
- 41:59Speaker 3: UK column. It said under the title, Perceived Threat, a
- 42:04Speaker 3: substantial number of people still do not feel sufficiently personally threatened.
- 42:10Speaker 3: And it goes on to say the perceived level of
- 42:12Speaker 3: personal threat needs to be increased amongst those who are
- 42:15Speaker 3: complacent using hard hitting emotional messaging. This was the government
- 42:22Speaker 3: of the United Kingdom attacking the minds, particularly of young
- 42:28Speaker 3: people by making them more fearful so that they would
- 42:32Speaker 3: better adhere to the absolutely outrageous policies of COVID-19 and lockdown.
- 42:39Speaker 3: It's Utterly brutal, Ben.
- 42:41Speaker 1: It's terrorism. Indeed. Literally, the dictionary definition of terrorism.
- 42:47Speaker 3: So we'll just follow through with the BBC from today.
- 42:50Speaker 3: I briefly mentioned this just a little while ago, but
- 42:55Speaker 3: here's the article itself. Oxford grooming gang survivors tell BBC
- 43:01Speaker 3: that hundreds of abusers are still free. The BBC, of course,
- 43:05Speaker 3: gloating about this because the BBC absolutely hates refusing to
- 43:10Speaker 3: report the reality that the grooming gangs are a tiny
- 43:13Speaker 3: subset of the overall abusers who are protected and encouraged
- 43:18Speaker 3: by the state itself. Then the BBC got even darker
- 43:23Speaker 3: with this story from the States. Lindsay Clancy's ex-husband explains
- 43:28Speaker 3: why he forgave her over children's killings. Apologies with this one,
- 43:33Speaker 3: it's distressing, but the mother killed the children. But the
- 43:37Speaker 3: BBC thinks the British public needs to know about this.
- 43:41Speaker 3: And Patrick Clancy, the ex-husband of a US mother accused
- 43:45Speaker 3: of murdering their three children, has said he would have
- 43:48Speaker 3: been eaten up inside forever had he not forgiven her
- 43:53Speaker 3: for those deaths, for the deaths.
- 43:55Speaker 1: Of the children.
- 43:57Speaker 3: The BBC taking this sad story and making it prominent
- 44:03Speaker 3: in the minds of the population in UK. There's only
- 44:06Speaker 3: one reason, it's to cause distress in the minds of
- 44:11Speaker 3: the UK public.
- 44:13Speaker 2: And in some sense to normalise this kind of behaviour.
- 44:15Speaker 2: I mean, that is an extraordinary story. We probably haven't
- 44:17Speaker 2: spoken about enough on the column, to be honest with you.
- 44:20Speaker 1: This is true.
- 44:20Speaker 3: And another headline from the BBC here today, specialist courts
- 44:26Speaker 3: for rape cases to be rolled out across England and Wales.
- 44:29Speaker 3: So Is this a positive story? Don't worry if you've
- 44:33Speaker 3: been raped because there's going to be better courts where
- 44:36Speaker 3: you can give your evidence and testimony remotely. Is that
- 44:41Speaker 3: what this article is about or is it actually glorifying
- 44:44Speaker 3: the fact that we now have a serious rape problem
- 44:48Speaker 3: in a United Kingdom where morality is breaking down, criminality
- 44:55Speaker 3: is on the rise as a result of central government policies,
- 45:00Speaker 3: which the BBC will not report. And I'll just reinforce
- 45:04Speaker 3: the BBC's powers of manipulation of misinformation and disinformation. This
- 45:12Speaker 3: was their report about German Chancellor Merz. So the headline
- 45:16Speaker 3: from the BBC said that he was calling the state
- 45:20Speaker 3: election a disaster for his party, but he vows to
- 45:24Speaker 3: stay on. Now, when you saw the image on screen,
- 45:29Speaker 3: Your immediate thought was you were going to click on
- 45:32Speaker 3: the video reel, the little clip, and listen to Mertz
- 45:37Speaker 3: talking for himself. But no, that's not the case. You're
- 45:41Speaker 3: going to see a picture of Mertz and then the
- 45:43Speaker 3: BBC is going to tell you what they think. Let's
- 45:47Speaker 3: have a look at this appalling little clip.
- 45:51Speaker 6: It's a bit of a mysterious situation in terms of
- 45:55Speaker 6: the rumours that have been swirling for months about the
- 45:57Speaker 6: idea of a Kanzlertausch, a Chancellor swap. I've been sort
- 46:01Speaker 6: of calling it the coup with no name because no
- 46:03Speaker 6: challenger has actually publicly come out against him. But there
- 46:07Speaker 6: is certainly deep concern in the CDU that Chancellor Friedrich
- 46:10Speaker 6: Merz is personally unpopular. that he has failed in his
- 46:14Speaker 6: stated mission, really, to try and counter the rise of
- 46:17Speaker 6: Alternative für Deutschland, the anti-immigration, Russia-friendly party that continues to
- 46:22Speaker 6: gain ground and appears to have topped the polls in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern.
- 46:27Speaker 6: In terms of what happens next, Friedrich Merz is due
- 46:30Speaker 6: to have a series of meetings with party figures, presumably
- 46:34Speaker 6: to try and shore up support. And his remarks, I think,
- 46:37Speaker 6: tonight were designed by him to get out there, get
- 46:41Speaker 6: his message, his narrative across that he needs time to
- 46:45Speaker 6: deliver a reform programme that he hopes can revive Germany.
- 46:53Speaker 3: So no accurate reporting from the BBC, simply their smear,
- 46:58Speaker 3: their take on what is happening. And you know that
- 47:02Speaker 3: they're into the business of disinformation because, of course, they
- 47:06Speaker 3: spin the AFD party in Germany. which has been calling
- 47:11Speaker 3: for a cessation of the war in Ukraine. Let's get
- 47:15Speaker 3: peace into Ukraine. Let's stop the German state providing weapons
- 47:20Speaker 3: to the Ukrainians. Let's stop the killing. The BBC translates
- 47:25Speaker 3: that as the AFD being Russia friendly. It's blatant when
- 47:31Speaker 3: you know where to look for it, Ben. And what's
- 47:34Speaker 3: clear is that the BBC absolutely keen to ramp up war,
- 47:40Speaker 3: wherever it may be, and they don't want anybody to
- 47:43Speaker 3: speak out to try and stop it. So a lot
- 47:47Speaker 3: of work to be done by the awake population in UK.
- 47:50Speaker 1: It certainly is, Brian. It certainly is.
- 47:53Speaker 2: Now, we're going to move on to take a little
- 47:54Speaker 2: look at who's actually writing government policy at the moment,
- 47:59Speaker 2: or certainly controlling the apparatus through which that policy is produced. Now,
- 48:04Speaker 2: regular viewers will be very familiar with Demos. One of
- 48:07Speaker 2: the original think tanks, progressive think tanks from the mid-90s.
- 48:12Speaker 2: They were very closely linked to common purpose back in
- 48:16Speaker 2: the early days.
- 48:17Speaker 1: They actually shared an office. And Jeff Mulgan, Sir Jeff Mulgan.
- 48:24Speaker 2: Who's the founder of Demos, is a close friend and
- 48:27Speaker 2: collaborator with Julia Middleton from Common Purpose. Mulgan's still absolutely
- 48:32Speaker 2: front and center in the development of the international governance
- 48:36Speaker 2: infrastructure funded by the Rockefeller Foundation. active within University College
- 48:41Speaker 2: London and really pushing that whole thing forward. Demos is
- 48:47Speaker 2: run these days by this lady. This is Polly Curtis.
- 48:50Speaker 2: She's the chief executive of Demos. She's a former journalist.
- 48:54Speaker 2: And actually, just before Demos was the editor of Tortoise Media,
- 48:59Speaker 2: who we've spoken about a lot, maybe not as much
- 49:01Speaker 2: as we should have done recently. And in that position
- 49:05Speaker 2: at Tortoise Media, who were a key partner of the
- 49:08Speaker 2: Rothschild Foundation, amongst many other organizations, she was responsible for
- 49:13Speaker 2: putting out this podcast.
- 49:14Speaker 1: This was Hoaxed, released in 2022, which was about.
- 49:18Speaker 2: Um the supposed satanic ritual abuse hoax in hamstead north
- 49:23Speaker 2: london but actually we don't think that that was a
- 49:27Speaker 2: hoax do we brian.
- 49:28Speaker 3: Well it absolutely wasn't a hoax because the facts are
- 49:32Speaker 3: that both children were sexually abused and the documentation um
- 49:39Speaker 3: Medical documentation confirming that was introduced into the court, but
- 49:44Speaker 3: the BBC simply did, and the hoax team, Tortoise Media,
- 49:51Speaker 3: did not go near this evidence. So this, again, is spin.
- 49:56Speaker 3: They did give me a personal mention, which I suppose
- 49:59Speaker 3: I should be thankful for.
- 50:00Speaker 1: I think so, okay.
- 50:01Speaker 3: But no, six hours of audio on a hoax, but
- 50:06Speaker 3: they didn't bother to go near the key evidence that
- 50:09Speaker 3: the children were indeed sexually abused.
- 50:12Speaker 1: Who did it?
- 50:13Speaker 2: What an oversight. That's really strange, isn't it, Polly Curtis
- 50:17Speaker 2: at Demos? And one of Polly's most senior colleagues at
- 50:22Speaker 2: Demos is this lady. This is Miriam Levin. She's the
- 50:25Speaker 2: Director of Democratic Practice. And she was very excited over
- 50:29Speaker 2: on LinkedIn this week to launch this report on the
- 50:32Speaker 2: right-hand side, Your Voice on Immigration, a report on the
- 50:35Speaker 2: findings from a public deliberation process on work-related immigration for
- 50:39Speaker 2: the Home Affairs Committee. So Demos have actually been running...
- 50:43Speaker 2: The deliberative processes, which, as we've spoken about for many
- 50:47Speaker 2: years now, are wide open to abuse and the use
- 50:50Speaker 2: of something called Delphi technique, where essentially preconceived outcomes are
- 50:54Speaker 2: ushered through these processes in order to manufacture consent or
- 51:00Speaker 2: at least the appearance of consent to government policy. And remarkably,
- 51:04Speaker 2: they actually allowed Channel 4 News to come in and
- 51:07Speaker 2: film this in Leicester at some point over the past
- 51:10Speaker 2: few weeks. We've got a short clip of that report
- 51:12Speaker 2: to show to you now.
- 51:14Speaker 1: You get a lot of immigrants in one place. People
- 51:18Speaker 1: on the periphery of that can take exception to it.
- 51:22Speaker 1: We want to attract highly skilled workers. When they arrive here,
- 51:26Speaker 1: how are we showing them a welcome?
- 51:28Speaker 7: Of course, immigrants can have both positive and negative impacts
- 51:32Speaker 7: on the communities they move into.
- 51:35Speaker 8: It is the most contentious issue of our time. But
- 51:38Speaker 8: how can we have a constructive conversation about immigration? Kim
- 51:43Speaker 8: has concerns about the levels of immigration and is considering
- 51:47Speaker 8: voting for reform. Eden is thinking about voting for the Greens.
- 51:52Speaker 8: She feels there's lots of stereotypes about migrants who contribute
- 51:55Speaker 8: to the economy.
- 51:57Speaker 2: The government has set a goal of reducing net migration.
- 52:00Speaker 2: So in what ways should work-related immigration be reduced?
- 52:05Speaker 8: They've been brought together in this Citizens' Assembly. On hand
- 52:08Speaker 8: were experts to answer questions and dispel myths.
- 52:12Speaker 7: To get a work visa in the UK, you typically
- 52:15Speaker 7: need a sponsor. Second thing to understand about work visas
- 52:19Speaker 7: in the UK, there's no quota. Migrants fill jobs where
- 52:24Speaker 7: we don't have the skills or perhaps where we do,
- 52:27Speaker 7: but British people don't want to do those jobs. Of course,
- 52:30Speaker 7: that also reduces incentives to increase pay and train current residents.
- 52:37Speaker 8: This workshop was held in Leicester. one of the first
- 52:39Speaker 8: cities in the country where white people are now in
- 52:42Speaker 8: a minority. Nearly 60% of people who live here are
- 52:46Speaker 8: from an ethnic background, mainly Asian and black. Many have
- 52:49Speaker 8: settled here for generations, but new arrivals are causing concern
- 52:54Speaker 8: for some.
- 52:56Speaker 3: Then what about the people that have not been, the
- 52:58Speaker 3: illegals that they don't know about?
- 53:00Speaker 1: So no figures aren't in here, yeah. That's what I mean,
- 53:02Speaker 1: so you don't know whether it's higher or lower.
- 53:07Speaker 3: Well, just fascinating, Ben, and I did a wry smile
- 53:10Speaker 3: because you have adults going into a building that's been
- 53:13Speaker 3: painted in colourful colours on the outside in a cartoon
- 53:18Speaker 3: style as if it was some sort of creche building.
- 53:21Speaker 3: But the individuals that went into that highly manipulated demos
- 53:25Speaker 3: meeting would have had no defence against the Delphi technique
- 53:30Speaker 3: being used to manipulate their discussions and the ultimate outcome.
- 53:35Speaker 3: I'd also add that we were delighted to once again
- 53:40Speaker 3: see that in UK column audience at the weekend that
- 53:44Speaker 3: we had people from different cultures and backgrounds united by
- 53:49Speaker 3: the fact that they all see through this very dangerous
- 53:53Speaker 3: political agenda. One of the keys to stopping that agenda
- 53:58Speaker 3: is to get greater communication between the community groups.
- 54:03Speaker 1: Yes, outside of the control of these people. Correct. Importantly, yes.
- 54:08Speaker 2: And interestingly, there was an Indian gentleman at the end
- 54:10Speaker 2: there who was expressing concerns about illegal immigration, which is
- 54:13Speaker 2: entirely valid. But I thought it was fascinating to hear
- 54:17Speaker 2: that when they wanted to find out what British people
- 54:20Speaker 2: really think about immigration, they went to Leicester, which was
- 54:23Speaker 2: the first city in the UK to have a white minority.
- 54:27Speaker 2: So they've gone to the most diverse place in the
- 54:29Speaker 2: country in order to talk about diversity.
- 54:31Speaker 1: Well, what did you think the outcome from that discussion
- 54:33Speaker 1: was going to be?
- 54:34Speaker 3: Just a coincidence, Ben. It was chosen out of a hat.
- 54:38Speaker 1: I'm sure it was, Brian, yes.
- 54:39Speaker 2: Now, let's just have a little look back at some
- 54:42Speaker 2: of the other reporting that we've done on Demos. And
- 54:44Speaker 2: this was from 2024, an event held at the Demos office.
- 54:48Speaker 2: You can see Miriam Levin there on the left-hand side.
- 54:51Speaker 2: who was just facilitating that session from the Channel 4
- 54:53Speaker 2: News Report, which we'll provide a link to, as you
- 54:55Speaker 2: go and watch the whole thing, by the way.
- 54:57Speaker 1: And importantly, she.
- 54:57Speaker 2: Was working in this session, she was hosting the lady
- 55:00Speaker 2: on the right-hand side, you can see there, that's Claudia
- 55:03Speaker 2: Chalice from Democracy Next, who tells us a little bit
- 55:06Speaker 2: about what these citizen assemblies are all about in this
- 55:08Speaker 2: next clip.
- 55:09Speaker 1: Let's have a listen.
- 55:13Speaker 9: How could we change the way in which decisions related
- 55:16Speaker 9: to housing and infrastructure mobility get taken every time they
- 55:19Speaker 9: have to be taken? And so we did this work
- 55:22Speaker 9: because we see these sorts of issues are the same
- 55:25Speaker 9: all over the world. Before we launched this, we did
- 55:27Speaker 9: interviews with people in different countries, those different roles. Actually,
- 55:31Speaker 9: we spoke to some of your colleagues in Camden even,
- 55:33Speaker 9: I remember at that stage. And there's just a shared
- 55:36Speaker 9: sense of these problems being shared in cities around the world.
- 55:39Speaker 9: And we really believe that we don't just need different
- 55:42Speaker 9: policy solutions to these issues that we're facing.
- 55:44Speaker 4: All over the place.
- 55:46Speaker 9: We really need a different way in which we're taking
- 55:48Speaker 9: these decisions on an ongoing basis. And these new governance
- 55:52Speaker 9: models can help break through deadlocks and give legitimacy to
- 55:56Speaker 9: the sometimes hard choices that need to be made that
- 55:58Speaker 9: require trade-offs.
- 56:02Speaker 2: New governance models that can give legitimacy when you've got
- 56:05Speaker 2: to take trade-offs and make hard decisions about things like immigration.
- 56:10Speaker 2: My goodness, this stuff is wide open to abuse, isn't it?
- 56:13Speaker 2: And let's just remind ourselves very quickly about Claudia Chalice, who...
- 56:19Speaker 2: I did a big report on back in January, actually,
- 56:22Speaker 2: and I need to expand on this. But let's just
- 56:24Speaker 2: say that she's surrounded by some rather extraordinary people and interests,
- 56:27Speaker 2: including Eric Schmidt, the former chief executive of Google, who's
- 56:31Speaker 2: part of the Bilderberg Group, and Jared Cohen from Goldman
- 56:35Speaker 2: Sachs and the International Strategy Forum.
- 56:37Speaker 1: This is all globalist policy.
- 56:39Speaker 2: And actually, DemNext is backed by the Rockefeller Foundation, the
- 56:43Speaker 2: National Endowment for Democracy, which is basically a CIA front,
- 56:46Speaker 2: the Open Society Foundations. and works in close collaboration with
- 56:50Speaker 2: the Massachusetts Institute for Technology, MIT, which you can see
- 56:54Speaker 2: down at the bottom right-hand side there next to the
- 56:56Speaker 2: UN logo.
- 56:57Speaker 1: Which is where Jeffrey.
- 56:58Speaker 2: Epstein did some funding into deception with the Gates Foundation.
- 57:05Speaker 3: Just a coincidence.
- 57:06Speaker 1: Just a coincidence.
- 57:06Speaker 2: It's got nothing to do with the work that Democracy
- 57:09Speaker 2: Next is doing with MIT.
- 57:13Speaker 1: But, you know, what do I know?
- 57:14Speaker 2: These are the people who the current Labour government have
- 57:19Speaker 2: chosen to help them develop their policy around immigration.
- 57:23Speaker 1: What could possibly go wrong?
- 57:25Speaker 2: I think that's probably enough on that for now.
- 57:29Speaker 9: It is.
- 57:30Speaker 3: Well, we'll just close the news today by coming back
- 57:33Speaker 3: on the topic of common purpose. You've mentioned Andy Burnham
- 57:38Speaker 3: using the phrase, but of course, this organisation is is
- 57:42Speaker 3: not only still working at maximum rate in the United Kingdom,
- 57:46Speaker 3: it's also overseas. What are they doing? They're choosing and
- 57:51Speaker 3: training future leaders. So nothing to do with democracy at all.
- 57:56Speaker 3: These are the leaders being put in place to control society.
- 58:00Speaker 3: And we thought at our UK conference in Plymouth that
- 58:04Speaker 3: it was appropriate to take a little look at the
- 58:07Speaker 3: then chief executive, Julia Middleton, who formed common purpose. Let's
- 58:13Speaker 3: have a look at this slightly ancient video.
- 58:20Speaker 5: My first common purpose program was in Newcastle. There's no
- 58:23Speaker 5: real major city in Britain that doesn't have a common
- 58:26Speaker 5: purpose program, so I think it's about 45 common purpose programs.
- 58:31Speaker 5: And then there's a lot of programs across most of
- 58:35Speaker 5: the cities in Germany and growing in a number of
- 58:37Speaker 5: other countries. In the UK, if you talk about adults,
- 58:41Speaker 5: because there's a lot of people who've been on the
- 58:43Speaker 5: youth programmes, if you talk about adults who've been on
- 58:45Speaker 5: the common purpose programmes in the UK, it's about 24,000.
- 58:47Speaker 3: Well, there we are now, common purpose still going. Julia
- 58:53Speaker 3: Middleton retired as chief executive, but their agenda, selecting and
- 58:59Speaker 3: training future leaders, putting them in positions of power. Where
- 59:03Speaker 3: did common purpose come from? Well, it was simply created
- 59:06Speaker 3: by Julia and her chums and funded our group. of
- 59:10Speaker 3: major banks. The details about that are not fully released
- 59:14Speaker 3: to the public. But as I said, common purpose was
- 59:18Speaker 3: working at the heart of the Labour government through the
- 59:20Speaker 3: office of the Deputy Prime Minister. And it's still a very,
- 59:23Speaker 3: very powerful force in helping to break down our existing
- 59:28Speaker 3: constitution and lifestyle in order to bring in the lifestyle
- 59:33Speaker 3: that they want. Now, if that's a political charity, common
- 59:37Speaker 3: purpose operating, of course, we can go up a level
- 59:40Speaker 3: to the deep state as we did during the UK conference.
- 59:44Speaker 3: And this organization, Integrity Initiative, working not to counter misinformation,
- 59:54Speaker 3: to withhold truth so that the state propaganda can get
- 59:57Speaker 3: through integrity initiative was taken apart by some really excellent
- 1:00:03Speaker 3: UK column research by Mike Robinson and David Scott many
- 1:00:10Speaker 3: years ago. You can find the details on our website.
- 1:00:13Speaker 3: But let's have a look at the main man of
- 1:00:15Speaker 3: influence with integrity initiative, Chris Donnelly. Let's look at what
- 1:00:22Speaker 3: he had to say.
- 1:00:22Speaker 4: The Institute for Statecraft, is an organisation which looks at
- 1:00:28Speaker 4: issues of governance, of how to improve governance in modern
- 1:00:33Speaker 4: societies so that they can keep pace with the changing world.
- 1:00:38Speaker 4: And recently we've been looking particularly at the issues of
- 1:00:42Speaker 4: disinformation and malign influence because this is one of the
- 1:00:45Speaker 4: biggest threats to democracy at the current time. We seek
- 1:00:49Speaker 4: to educate and inform policy makers and decision makers so
- 1:00:54Speaker 4: that they understand the nature of the problem and can
- 1:00:57Speaker 4: better track, expose and counter this disinformation wherever it comes from.
- 1:01:03Speaker 4: The Integrity Initiative programme actually addresses the problem in all
- 1:01:09Speaker 4: European countries. We have across Europe networks, we call them clusters,
- 1:01:18Speaker 4: and that's why institutes like the Institute for Statecrafts, Non-governmental
- 1:01:24Speaker 4: organisations run by specialists without governmental direction are so important
- 1:01:31Speaker 4: because they can generate from the grassroots a movement of people.
- 1:01:37Speaker 4: They can educate people more effectively. They can respond more
- 1:01:41Speaker 4: rapidly to the kind of informational, disinformational threat we're now facing.
- 1:01:48Speaker 3: That's a tiny segment of what he actually said. And
- 1:01:51Speaker 3: don't be fooled by this rather innocent looking elderly gentleman
- 1:01:55Speaker 3: in his nice kitchen with the agar and the fresh
- 1:01:58Speaker 3: bread and the cups of tea, because he's saying the
- 1:02:01Speaker 3: government doesn't know what to do. Not to worry, we,
- 1:02:06Speaker 3: Unelected Integrity Initiative, we are going to create the clusters
- 1:02:10Speaker 3: and we are going to control the information across the
- 1:02:14Speaker 3: European Union. extremely dangerous stuff uk column worked very hard
- 1:02:19Speaker 3: we bring this on screen to expose this really uh
- 1:02:23Speaker 3: exceptional exposure by mike robinson and david scott and if
- 1:02:27Speaker 3: you want to understand more go and search for integrity
- 1:02:32Speaker 3: initiative on the uk column website now i'm just going
- 1:02:35Speaker 3: to end really with a little a little bit a
- 1:02:38Speaker 3: major theme of the event at the weekend which is
- 1:02:42Speaker 3: the UK column and really what we have achieved, what
- 1:02:45Speaker 3: we've done over the years. So, of course, you get
- 1:02:48Speaker 3: a feel for it by having a look at our
- 1:02:50Speaker 3: fantastic website, just packed full of information. But if we
- 1:02:55Speaker 3: have a look at what we've reported and exposed over
- 1:02:58Speaker 3: the years, this is just a tiny proportion of it.
- 1:03:03Speaker 3: And a lot of this absolutely unique reporting. And you'll
- 1:03:07Speaker 3: notice that we end on press freedoms because we, as
- 1:03:11Speaker 3: free press are being attacked, but so is the mainstream media.
- 1:03:15Speaker 3: And without free press and free media, we cannot expose
- 1:03:20Speaker 3: the attack on us. So I'll leave the audience to
- 1:03:23Speaker 3: think about that. And I'd like to close by saying
- 1:03:26Speaker 3: that we've had some guests with us in the UK
- 1:03:30Speaker 3: Column Studios this morning. That was part of a prize
- 1:03:33Speaker 3: that we gave at the weekend. So welcome to our guests.
- 1:03:37Speaker 3: And I'd also like to give a huge thank you
- 1:03:40Speaker 3: to the people at the UK Column Conference that held
- 1:03:44Speaker 3: the prayer group, which was such a wonderful experience on
- 1:03:51Speaker 3: Sunday morning. So I'd just like to end giving recognition
- 1:03:55Speaker 3: to those people who came together to make a very
- 1:03:58Speaker 3: quiet and measured difference to our event. Amazing event, incredible news, Ben.
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: It certainly was, Brian. Thanks for that.
- 1:04:10Speaker 2: 20 years at the UK column, but the work doesn't stop.
- 1:04:13Speaker 2: We're out of time today. If you remember, join us
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: for Extra. We're going to have some guests in the studio.
- 1:04:18Speaker 2: It should be quite fun. And the team will be
- 1:04:22Speaker 2: back for the news on Wednesday at 1pm.
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: Until then, take care. Goodbye.
- 1:04:28Speaker 9: Bye-bye.