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- 0:05Welcome to the boys. Listen to the Passion and Hunger
- 0:08Park. It's John.
- 0:13Again, it's Johnny's. It's great.
- 0:16Done by the fish Chance, The one for Scotland.
- 0:27Scott And we're back for another episode talking about league
- 0:31action, domestic football once again starting in Scotland after
- 0:35our international break and our couple of chats we had on
- 0:39Scotland and it's been an exciting week.
- 0:42Lots of big results, some disappointing for some members
- 0:47who are joining us to talk today and others have led to elation.
- 0:51One of the guys joining us is Adam Mccorky.
- 0:53Talk, Adam. I think we all know you're
- 0:55wanting to like be awaited of. The party trying to stay, trying
- 0:59to stay humble as best I can for this podcast.
- 1:04Yeah, a good call because also on the mic is George was a
- 1:08Celtic fan. Joe, how you feeling?
- 1:12I've been better, James, but I'm still waiting that there's a
- 1:17long way to go, so I'm just trying to look on the bright
- 1:19side. The life is this.
- 1:21Certainly early days. Early days like so, yeah, Quick
- 1:25scan through of the results before we get talking.
- 1:28Aberdeen 11 nil away to Saint Man.
- 1:31That was their second one in the season.
- 1:33Back to that one's for them. Dundee night.
- 1:36I draw eyebrows against Rangers. Motherwell lost 21 owned folk.
- 1:41Our decision there we'll probably talk about.
- 1:43I was at Easter Rd. for a four nil win for the High Bees, their
- 1:47first win since the league, first league game of the season
- 1:49so good for them. And then of course to the
- 1:53biggest talking points parts running out three nil winners at
- 1:57Rock the Park in the Del Classico which has been dubbed
- 2:01and Dundee. 2 nil win for a team that was right, that fit the
- 2:07table nearly against Celtic. So we'll start we'll start on a
- 2:13on a on a more happy tour. We'll go to the maroon corner of
- 2:17Edinburgh for this one. See now in Kilmarnock.
- 2:21Adam talked to us about it. Were you the game?
- 2:23How did you see it? Yeah, I was at the game that
- 2:26managed to get a ticket for it, but there are plenty was plenty
- 2:29of us there, that's for sure. So I think it was just under
- 2:314000 there, which was obviously good to see.
- 2:35I think obviously you naturally expect and the good times are
- 2:38going, you start to see more fans and not that obviously
- 2:41touch of terrible away athenses or anything like that.
- 2:44But I think people were quick to know about maybe like our
- 2:46attendance there in May and whatever.
- 2:47But circumstances change. And I suppose five months on
- 2:51things are very different from when we went to Calais in a
- 2:54bottom 6 match, which was effectively nothing for us other
- 2:58than them being upset by the fact that they'll was on the way
- 3:00out. But yeah, I think the game, I
- 3:03think they came to hit the nail on the head.
- 3:04A lot of the pundits and everything in the media, Kelly
- 3:08came out the traps really good for sort of 1015 minutes.
- 3:13Think it was more just like weather in the storm a little
- 3:15bit with them. They tried to obviously beat us
- 3:18at our own game a little bit in the sense of like high press and
- 3:21putting us under a lot of pressure.
- 3:22And I think it was just about maybe trying to get through
- 3:25that. And then we obviously managed to
- 3:28go up the pitch and get a corner.
- 3:31And as by no surprise, which seems to be a theme for the
- 3:34season for us so far anyways, that we scored for that corner
- 3:38and Halket three goals in in three games.
- 3:40I think between having Finley and all comps, they've got nine
- 3:43goals between them. So it's probably more than more
- 3:46than more than strike parents have, never mind centre back
- 3:49parents. And at this stage in the season
- 3:51anyway. So yeah, is it really, really
- 3:53good to get that goal from from a game, like I said, that
- 3:55started we weren't really in control of.
- 3:58And then I think really from there, like Kilmarnock, I think
- 4:01Kettle will touch and I think they were, they were kind of
- 4:03masters of their own downfall a little bit and a lot of like
- 4:06loose passes. Yeah, just a lot of mistakes
- 4:09going on in the middle of the park and then didn't really look
- 4:13to have a lot of ideas to answer us once we did get that goal in
- 4:16front. And then obviously the game
- 4:18starts to open up a little bit. second-half gives the Lexi Kizri
- 4:21this in Braga, the space they're looking for.
- 4:24And then obviously the two of them were pretty devastating
- 4:27between the two goals that happened in fairly quick
- 4:29succession. And then it was pretty much, I
- 4:32would say after, but I think it was roughly just over the hour
- 4:35mark, last 30 minutes, just Hearts sort of see me enjoy
- 4:39themselves in terms of be a bit more free flowing in their play.
- 4:43And yeah, just like I said, enjoying the moment.
- 4:45And I think that you could see that obviously the fans and
- 4:47again, everything that's going on media wise with Hearts as
- 4:49well. So they're kinda right in the
- 4:51Crest of the wave and rightly so.
- 4:55So just as long as we can, for however long it is.
- 4:58Yeah, I mean, I mean, he said about the their first 15 minutes
- 5:04was just about like sort of containing Kelly about.
- 5:08They really gave him something to think about.
- 5:10He said he didn't think there was much in the first half but
- 5:15when the press came on. But when their press came on, we
- 5:18started to engage with our strikers and scored a couple of
- 5:21good goals. It looked straightforward in the
- 5:23end, but until the third goal went and it wasn't.
- 5:26So yeah, he's acknowledging Kelly.
- 5:28So I'd given a good fight, but and then Hearts did put together
- 5:32a really good performance. Couple of good goals.
- 5:34Baraga, obviously, I saw one of his ones, the one that shifted
- 5:38around the keeper was very neat, did well with that.
- 5:40I mean, what a coupe. He continues to look for Hearts
- 5:43coming from the Norwegian second tier and I'm right and same as
- 5:46that, just over half 1,000,000 lbs.
- 5:49So I mean brilliant signing like you said, right in the Crest of
- 5:54the wave. Are you starting to dream
- 5:56already? Do you think there could be a
- 5:58title challenge on or is it still too early and you don't
- 6:00want to fall into the same trap as Aberdeen fans did last
- 6:03season? I think like to be honest, like
- 6:05if I, if I'm heart to heart, like the heart of me would say
- 6:08like, yeah, I'm dreaming. So obviously we for any Hearts
- 6:11fan, I'd be dreaming about it, just like Aberdeen fans would be
- 6:15dreaming last season. And then obviously the numerous
- 6:17times Aberdeen were up there when obviously Rangers weren't
- 6:20there and whatever. Like you'd be kind of foolish
- 6:23like not to dream like and have that sort of your heart and you
- 6:25want into win it. And I'm always thinking of like
- 6:29it's maybe not of us the same circumstances somewhat, though,
- 6:31I would say in terms like the Leicester situation just for
- 6:34like golfing and whatever. Obviously I know the leagues are
- 6:36very different, but like it's still got that that Leicester
- 6:40kind of feel, albeit Hearts position and Scottish foot was
- 6:42higher than I suppose Leicester's would be at that
- 6:44time. But but yeah, in terms of like
- 6:49in my head, I would say what everyone else is saying like
- 6:53it's eight games and Aberdeen were however many games and
- 6:56roughly this stage as well. Same kind of scenario.
- 6:59I think this, I think even though that people keep banging
- 7:02on about being the same type of scenario as Aberdeen, I do think
- 7:05the circumstances are very different.
- 7:06Like the points you get are the points you get regardless
- 7:08because it's eight games. And so obviously it's natural
- 7:11that we may have roughly the same points.
- 7:13But I mean, it was a better Celtic last season.
- 7:16The stuff that's going on with Celtic and Rangers is very
- 7:19different from the last season for both of them.
- 7:22There's a lot of bunching up going on with everybody else in
- 7:24the league, which means there's a lot more draws.
- 7:26So it's given Hart's more than early advantage on a lot of
- 7:29other teams, which Aberdeen didn't quite have as fortunate
- 7:34circumstances as well when they had their form.
- 7:36So and I just think overall the set up with hearts as well as
- 7:41clicked in a lot of places on and off the park.
- 7:43So I'm hopeful that it lasts. Whether that lasts like to get
- 7:47like a league title, I don't know.
- 7:48But certainly you'd be looking for certainly with an injured
- 7:52situation that to aim for second, but you'll never hear
- 7:55that chat obviously for Mckennis for anybody.
- 7:57I think he has been already stating about, you know, we need
- 8:00to see like 2 full rounds of games.
- 8:02So obviously best been eight games and you'll not not see
- 8:04that till around about 22 games. So still we to go for that and
- 8:09then they'll maybe start talking about it then.
- 8:11But obviously in house, like they'll have their own goals and
- 8:14targets and everyone will be aiming for it.
- 8:16You know, to everybody should be aiming to be as high as they can
- 8:18be. So as long as they can keep
- 8:20challenging themselves, then yeah, they should be in a good
- 8:24place this season, regardless of where that end position is.
- 8:28Yeah, no, I agree with that. They are looking good.
- 8:31Does that 'cause you to be a little bit concerned, Joe?
- 8:35Obviously Celtic now five points a draft like early days, but do
- 8:40you like ours and say no, they're playing well, that's
- 8:42good football, you know, that's going to give us something to
- 8:44think about. Be honest, I don't know.
- 8:47I mean obviously hearts add to the concern, but most of my
- 8:51concern comes from within the club and I'd be concerned
- 8:57regardless. Obviously the table position
- 8:59adds a lot of concern to that and appreciate it.
- 9:01But regardless of where we would be, obviously be different if
- 9:06we're five points clear. But the fall off and performance
- 9:09is alarming enough. And fair play to Hearts.
- 9:12They've just capitalised on that and not to I, I sound like I'm
- 9:17getting them a high horse here and I don't mean it, but I
- 9:19genuinely do welcome, welcome the competition and because I
- 9:24think it's good for Scottish football and it's good for
- 9:26Celtic because most years of her being honest self probably get
- 9:31away with the sub pubs that they've had so far with the
- 9:36quality of the other teams, including Rangers.
- 9:40The competition's not really been there without exceptions in
- 9:45recent years, so I'm not getting overly worried.
- 9:50I've seen Celtic have tourist starts before.
- 9:53This may be the worst, but I do think it's entirely possible
- 9:57that Celtic steady the ship enough.
- 10:00I don't think we're going to reach the heights that we did
- 10:02last year and I also think it is quite unlikely that Hearts
- 10:05maintain this level throughout the whole season.
- 10:08Come back to me next week though and it could be completely
- 10:11different because the result on Sunday could change my complete
- 10:15outlook. If Hearts play us off the park,
- 10:18which wouldn't surprise me, and when to not at Tynecastle, there
- 10:22it clear I might have a different outlook on things.
- 10:25Or if Celtic score and a really tight game, a late goal snatch
- 10:32at one nil and bring it back to two points, I would use that as
- 10:35I'd hope that Celtic reduce that as a platform to build off of.
- 10:40Yeah, I mean, I don't know, it's a, it is a massive 1 next Sunday
- 10:4512:00 at Tynecastle and kicks off.
- 10:49I mean we'll, we'll discuss the Celtic game at the weekend.
- 10:52First two nil to Dundee obviously rotates at the game
- 10:58and stuff. There was in the golf balls and
- 11:01all the bouncy balls getting thrown on by the Celtic fan.
- 11:03I thought the bouncy balls were quite funny to be honest.
- 11:06I took ages to clean them off, so 3 minutes, 3 minutes and then
- 11:10what? Someone said that's the stoppage
- 11:12time, that part of that. There was, there was 4, there
- 11:16was, there was 4 added to be honest.
- 11:19Like Dundee were going to score regardless.
- 11:21It does. I mean, it just meant that they
- 11:24scored an added time instead of the third three last minutes of
- 11:27normal time. And I'm glad they did that at
- 11:30the start of game instead of at the 20th minute when the team
- 11:33were in their flow. And you can see, you can see by
- 11:38where Celtic are and in the league that things aren't right.
- 11:43I know and I understand it's an extent that other Scottish
- 11:47football fans around us look at us saying, oh, what have you got
- 11:50to complain about? But for so long Celtic have been
- 11:55held back out with out with Scottish football.
- 11:58When you look around us at the potential that the club has.
- 12:02So I actually think that the people on the board are lucky
- 12:05that they've got this far, and they're lucky that Rodgers is
- 12:10actually still there as well. No, I mean across the game.
- 12:15I mean well in terms of what the manager said, Dundee just even
- 12:18previously obviously very proud that we worked in exceptionally
- 12:22hard over the last couple of weeks.
- 12:24You can work on certain aspects but the execution of that is
- 12:27down to the players. I thought to a man they were
- 12:30brilliant today. Rogers assessment was the
- 12:34resultant performances. Performance are bitterly
- 12:37disappointing. Give credit to Dundee, the
- 12:39defended well when they got in front.
- 12:44All the statistics in the game show We dominated the ball but
- 12:46we didn't do enough with it. It was a disappointing day for
- 12:50us. Agree with that.
- 12:53Yes, I mean, I probably could have written a script for that
- 12:55to be honest. I mean I feel like half these
- 12:58interviews were the big media outlets are pretty PR trained,
- 13:03but no, it's. It's the whole thing I don't
- 13:06need. It's fun with what he's saying
- 13:08and it does smell a lot of how football was looking at Celtic
- 13:15and Rogers third season, his first and before he went to
- 13:17Leicester. The football's predictable.
- 13:20The only difference was that the teams around us weren't as good.
- 13:25But even then the poor results were were were showing,
- 13:30especially in the first half of that season.
- 13:32But it's it's up to Rogers and the team to find a way around
- 13:38it. It's not controversial to say
- 13:40that player for player Celtic is the best squad in the league.
- 13:42It's just finding the best ways around it.
- 13:45I mean, I saw someone stating the financial gulf between
- 13:50Dundee and Celtic and it was astronomical.
- 13:54And so everyone will say, oh, Dundee played dire football.
- 13:59They they beat a team that was in the Champions League last
- 14:02year and and nearly took Bayern Munich extra time and all that
- 14:07stuff. I mean, for any Dundee team to
- 14:10do that in the state that they're in is mighty impressive.
- 14:14And you can try and take away all that they want with how bad
- 14:17Celtic were. It's an incredible achievement
- 14:19that they should be very proud of.
- 14:21But to allow that to happen at Celtic and also the fact that
- 14:24nobody was surprised, I think says a lot because, well, I'm
- 14:29not saying I wasn't surprised because I literally said in the
- 14:31sub stack for Scott's with a mic that everyone would be shocked.
- 14:36But the performance from Celtic didn't surprise me.
- 14:40Dundee's going to maybe that just because of how Dundee had
- 14:42been this season. And but I there was no pointers.
- 14:47I was thinking this is unbelievable because it's
- 14:49nothing that we've not seen before from Celtic this season.
- 14:52Yeah, and as I mean, as I've been talking with Dundee, as
- 14:54well as an interesting journey to watch since Chrysler's
- 14:58appointment in the summer, there was a, you know, a level of, you
- 15:03know, the criticism I guess leveled that the appointment and
- 15:08people not been too enamoured with Presley coming in.
- 15:11League Cup campaign didn't go amazingly dropping points
- 15:14against lower league teams. You'll be chuffed with that.
- 15:17It feels like that he's got them playing a little bit more how
- 15:19he's wanting. I'll come back to Adam begging
- 15:23on Sunday and Joe's getting his thoughts there.
- 15:26Are you looking forward to it? Definitely, definitely.
- 15:31I think you cannot look forward to it, right.
- 15:32It's the first time, probably going to a game against Celtic,
- 15:36well first time and God knows how long we got a game in Celtic
- 15:39above them. And then also again the
- 15:41situation with Celtic versus us, it's like polar opposite.
- 15:45So there's a lot in our favour. I did not foresee Celtic getting
- 15:49beat yesterday. I did watch it, most of it to be
- 15:52honest, and I've not spent an enormous amount of time watching
- 15:56Celtic this season. But I've obviously heard murmurs
- 15:59about like, you know, not replacing people.
- 16:02And to be honest, I came to agree with what Joe's saying.
- 16:05Like I'm not like whilst there is a financial goal from Walsh,
- 16:09I probably would say at the moment in most positions Celtic,
- 16:12man for man with every other team is better.
- 16:15Overall. Do think there is significant
- 16:18weaknesses and I do think a lot it all comes from the fact that
- 16:20it's just poor, poor recruitment or you know, over time it's
- 16:26either been not spending enough money or where they are spending
- 16:30it, it could be spent better places.
- 16:32And I think like from watching the game, certainly in like
- 16:36forward areas and full back areas, they did look
- 16:39significantly weaker. They did look very predictable.
- 16:43They just looked so passive that ideas looked like they were
- 16:45one-dimensional. And then also the fact as well
- 16:49that like they just seem to still be relying on, at the
- 16:53moment anyway, because I obviously got injured and stuff,
- 16:55but relying on like the same people.
- 16:56So like relying on McGregor, relying on a returning Kieran
- 17:00Tierney and James Forrest, again, hoping he does something
- 17:04because nobody else is. And then obviously the other key
- 17:07point as well that I was thinking about the other day was
- 17:10the fact that I've got AFCON coming up as well.
- 17:13And I find there is like 3, at least a couple of attacking
- 17:16players, maybe 3 attacking players for Celtic that are
- 17:19going or potentially going or likely going to AFCON, which
- 17:22again, further weakens them in an idea where they're already
- 17:24weaker than they were last season.
- 17:26So yeah, I do echo like Joe's points.
- 17:28Really, they shouldn't have really got to this position.
- 17:30But obviously it's up to Rogers to find a way.
- 17:34And ultimately, when you look at the league table, you know it's
- 17:37not like it's even if Harsh were to win on Sunday, eight points
- 17:41ahead of them but only nine games in, still 29 games to go,
- 17:44still to play Hearts three times, twice at Parkhead more
- 17:49likely. So yes, by no means not
- 17:52something they can overcome and I am fully expecting Hearts to
- 17:56have a dip at some point because it's not a normal position for
- 18:00us to be in. But I would say something for
- 18:02our favour would be the fact that we've still got a large
- 18:04quad squad, full equality and literally no distractions.
- 18:08And so again, Celtic got a game first Thursday night for Celtic.
- 18:12Hearts got obviously bombed on penalties by Saint Mirren.
- 18:15So we've got no other focus than the league all week, every week.
- 18:21Our focus is just one game a week and then stay as high as we
- 18:24can with our squad, the players. It was built technically for
- 18:27European football, like in my mind, like we should be probably
- 18:30have less players given the fact that we've not got any Europe.
- 18:33But I think it was just because, you know, maybe the right offer
- 18:37didn't come up or you think because obviously a lot of them
- 18:39are still under contract. So again, you're stuck with
- 18:41players, but with players that are still in the mean of
- 18:43quality. And then you've added to that
- 18:44by, you know, the number of settings we did make through
- 18:48analytics and obviously what Dell and Graham Jones were
- 18:50looking for. So yeah, I think it sets off for
- 18:53a tasty one on Sunday. Like if I was to think about
- 18:56what the outcome would be, I'd say it'll be a draw in my
- 18:59opinion. Like I think that Celtic do have
- 19:02frets and around the pitch that I think it's Taneki or Taneki, I
- 19:06can't remember his name. Henach obviously brings the
- 19:10obvious threat and then they've still got stability in the
- 19:12midfield, still got man for man good quality midfield that will
- 19:15definitely find a foothold in the game.
- 19:19Harsh will be on the back foot at certain points in the game.
- 19:21And then I still think the centre back pain in the car of
- 19:24records and scales, albeit they maybe don't have the same
- 19:27fullbacks they've had and certainly missing Johnston, I
- 19:29still think they bring a lot of stability along with Michael.
- 19:31So it'll be a really good game, I think.
- 19:35No, certainly I think all eyes will be on that on Sunday.
- 19:40Looking elsewhere in the league in terms of results, like you
- 19:43said, we have a two 2 draw Ibrox, Dundee United getting a
- 19:48point on the road. Good win.
- 19:52Said it was going 2 halves. Rangers dominated more than the
- 19:54first, Dundee United dominated more than the second They went.
- 19:57There was 4 good goals in that game actually.
- 20:00Dundee United went one nil down rock.
- 20:02To me that was the reaction and I draw, you know, as much as
- 20:05they deserve. But yeah, Rangers now appointed
- 20:08new manager Danny Roll. He was in the frame for the job
- 20:14initially and then pulled out, am I right?
- 20:16Insane. Then they're looking at Kevin
- 20:18Muscat that talks there, got to the advance stage but then broke
- 20:22down. He pulled out.
- 20:25What's your guys thoughts on that appointment?
- 20:27It seems, again, it's just not ideal for the Rangers support.
- 20:30I think a guy that didn't seem feeling it and then you know,
- 20:33it's not just the case. I'm going and getting them on.
- 20:36To be honest, I think it's actually, I think it could be
- 20:39quite a similar appointment to Russell Martin and not, not
- 20:44heaps of management experience actually lesson Russell Martin
- 20:48as a first team manager. Personally, I should.
- 20:51I actually think it could be good, but I thought that about
- 20:53Russell Martin as well. Yes.
- 20:56When they brought him in. As he's been assistant at Bayern
- 20:59Munich and Germany hasn't. He and Germany.
- 21:01He's also vegan. Drawing similarities, yeah.
- 21:06What was the Russell BC? Vegetarian and a vegan.
- 21:08No, he's vegan that. Was something that rubbed up
- 21:10that I mean, to me, that doesn't bother me.
- 21:11I know. No, no, that's not that doesn't
- 21:14define someone. But the Rangers fans, that was
- 21:17just the chair on top of yeah, I got it was.
- 21:20Woman and and fairness has actually not got a bad record at
- 21:24all, it's just very limited. He's 36.
- 21:28Off the top of my head. I'm assuming there will be
- 21:30someone in the Rangers squad that's actually older than that.
- 21:32If not, won't be far off it he must.
- 21:36Be like 33 or something surely? Yeah, but he'll be on, so not
- 21:39not far off it. So that's the challenge that
- 21:42comes with management and he actually did a really good job.
- 21:44But Sheffield Wednesday, the circumstances that surround
- 21:47that, I think people could really underestimate.
- 21:50Turn to 12 and at one point we're in a playoff hunt.
- 21:53So to have done that with Sheffield Wednesday would have
- 21:55been spectacular. I think the potential is there
- 22:00but the problem that he's got and he'll have known that and
- 22:02it's maybe part of the reason why he turned it down the first
- 22:04time. Rangers friends expect results
- 22:07and success straight away and I actually don't know how viable
- 22:13that is right now with the state of Scottish football, with the
- 22:15state of the Rangers squad. And I think when he goes in
- 22:18there like Russell Martin did, he'll realise that there's much
- 22:21bigger issues at play than the quality of footballers.
- 22:25I think there's a main set issue throughout the whole club and
- 22:29these players are not used to success.
- 22:31I know that sounds brutal, it sounds like I'm rubbing it in,
- 22:35but the most successful player in that team at Rangers is James
- 22:39Tavernier, who has won four trophies in about 10 years, and
- 22:46Rangers fans expect and want much, much more than that.
- 22:50And what might play into Daniel Grill's hands is that Celtic are
- 22:55doing badly right now and one of his first games is going to be
- 22:59the semi final against us and the League Cup semi final next
- 23:03week. So if he wins that, which
- 23:06genuinely wouldn't surprise me with how Steltz kept playing,
- 23:08right now, the whole thing changes.
- 23:12But if it goes the other way, he's got an uphill battle from
- 23:16pretty early on. Yeah, yeah.
- 23:22I don't know what you got. That's all right.
- 23:24I do echo like a few Joe's points there.
- 23:27Like I did manage to see some of the Rangers done that game.
- 23:31Yeah, there was good goals in it.
- 23:32It's good to see regular limbs happening in the corner.
- 23:36Ibrox as well. So show it to Dundee United fans
- 23:39for that. That was that was a good watch.
- 23:42But yeah, I think it's the same old can't be a.
- 23:45Rangers fan on the podcast at some point because we can't just
- 23:47have a new guys just taking cheap shots every time they drop
- 23:50points at home. Do you know what though?
- 23:53It's all give and take. I'll happily take abuse of any
- 23:55Rangers or Hips or Jewel, whoever, doesn't matter.
- 23:58You've got if you're going to give it out, you have to.
- 24:00You want it to take some as well.
- 24:01So I think I was kind of the same old feelings for Rangers a
- 24:06wee, but I felt like they obviously the quality of the
- 24:08team is not anywhere near what Rangers fans expect or anybody
- 24:12would expect to suppose for the size of club Rangers are.
- 24:14But I think like they did suffer a little bit from having like
- 24:17just some some some sort of coaching contingent and there
- 24:19are not really anyone that was like a leader in the dugout.
- 24:22Obviously it's chucked together because they're still trying to
- 24:24sort out recruiting a manager, which has been again, a sort of
- 24:28shambolic feeling of the board anyway.
- 24:30But I. Do.
- 24:33I think like Danny Rule will actually be all right.
- 24:37I actually think you'll do fine. I had a look at their games,
- 24:41right? The next five games is not, not
- 24:44what you think, what you'd want. And it probably makes you think
- 24:46like why the hell would you have faith from base in the next 5
- 24:48games? Because they've got Bran away on
- 24:51Thursday, they've got Kelly at home, Hibs away, Celtic of us in
- 24:56the cup and then Roma at home. And that's all in three weeks as
- 24:58well. So five games in three weeks.
- 25:00So obviously they would, like you said that we want them to
- 25:02get good results. Obviously try to get the table,
- 25:06they'll be expecting them to deliver in that cup semi final
- 25:08regardless of form, regardless of where they are in the league
- 25:11positions. Do have the opinion that I think
- 25:16Rangers I didn't. I wasn't sure who would win
- 25:19itself that Rangers the cup, but I am actually thinking that
- 25:21Rangers will win it. So I'll probably be wrong.
- 25:25But it's just because I do think there'll be a manager basis.
- 25:29I think there'll be a manager bounce of some kind.
- 25:31Sorry, Joe. And do you know what as well,
- 25:35right. The reason I'm a wee bit more
- 25:36confident about role when I don't want to be obviously as a
- 25:38heart fan, but I just think that like he seems a bit more
- 25:42adaptable than Martin and I think his personality is
- 25:45different from Martin as well. Not that you know, I do feel
- 25:49like Martin kind of got chucked under the bus a little bit with
- 25:51the pressures, but I just feel like as a little bit more suited
- 25:55to role and they've got a lot of similarities in Martin
- 25:58background, age, all that kind of thing.
- 26:00But I think, like I said, the style and the personality and
- 26:03adaptability role, I think that will help Rangers and I think he
- 26:07will get positive results in those five games.
- 26:10And I do think we will start to see them stead the ship a bit.
- 26:14And then obviously not sure where they'll be come January in
- 26:17terms of league position, but I'd imagine they'll be at least
- 26:22in the top three. I would say so, yeah.
- 26:26And then January, obviously it's about, well, no, Rangers love to
- 26:29spend money so and there'll be more money chucked there.
- 26:32And then I suppose that will be a test of of role as well where
- 26:36how he works for that recruitment team.
- 26:37Can the recruitment team get it right?
- 26:38Because they have appeared to have failed so far in terms of
- 26:43like their signings. But yeah, I'm a bit more
- 26:45confident about rolling than what others are.
- 26:49Yeah. I mean, we just just have to see
- 26:51it gets on, like you said, next five games, couple of big
- 26:54fixtures in there, so a chance to really endear himself to the
- 26:58Rangers support if if he manages to get them playing and winning
- 27:02more games. Dundee United though as well,
- 27:04like I make a point in Dundee United just quickly, James, if
- 27:07that's all right. Like I just like, what did you
- 27:09say? Their 4th.
- 27:12Yeah, it's not the 4th. I think it's, yeah, just like
- 27:14joint at the Kelly, they're joint Mifflin.
- 27:16I just, I just think like they're living off other
- 27:19people's feelings at the moment. Like like I do like they've made
- 27:23a lot of signings and they do have like good players, like
- 27:26saps for dole check players like that that have came in done
- 27:29well. But like for me, like with
- 27:32Emily, I do not have faith in good one like at all.
- 27:34Like I've seen his feelings, Aberdeen, Sitman and all that I
- 27:37could. I can see that when other teams
- 27:40get their act together, like so for example, say maybe like a
- 27:42Motherwell or something like that.
- 27:45Rangers, obviously you would expect to me that I can just see
- 27:48Dundee net being the team that just starts to go down that
- 27:49table. Like I was looking at their
- 27:52stats for the season. They've only won two games all
- 27:55season and all and then they're out the Europe that Europe they
- 27:59got beat for kill in the League Cup.
- 28:01But yeah, there's I don't I still think Goodwin again
- 28:05provides like that sort of consistency you'd want and
- 28:10they've had a lot of changes. So I'm be keen to watch them the
- 28:13next few weeks like because they if somebody who's asked me who
- 28:15different is going to go up and down that table because there is
- 28:17only five points between 3rd and bottom, like I'd be having
- 28:20Dundee now going down the table. Yeah, I mean, you've got them in
- 28:25three games time, They've got St.
- 28:28Martin at home and Motherwell away in between.
- 28:30So yeah, I mean, it's hard to tell.
- 28:35I mean, as a Ray fan, obviously we played them two seasons back
- 28:39when we're both going for the title.
- 28:40And again, I did really feel more forceful trying to throw
- 28:43the title away. Dundee United went up by, you
- 28:48know, we felt like we're trying to put on a plate for each other
- 28:52and then last season and it's quite well at the table.
- 28:54But again, Aberdeen last game of seasons and not they leapfrogged
- 28:58them in that position so. I just don't think I just don't
- 29:00think Goodwin brings that dependable factor that you would
- 29:03want. I just that's something it may
- 29:05just be me like, you know, end of the day, I'm no coach.
- 29:08Goodwin knows better than me about how he coached.
- 29:09But I just think as an outsider and given a sort of opinion on
- 29:12it. If you're just watching football
- 29:14and have seen as teams like I just feel like it's always like
- 29:17a matter of time. We're good when we're just like
- 29:19goes downhill and I just don't see that stability then I think
- 29:21they are living off like individual performances and like
- 29:24a lot of teams living off like just teams letting themselves
- 29:27down. So like Rangers and stability.
- 29:29They lived off, like you said, a couple of really good goals that
- 29:32they scored. And yeah, I just think like they
- 29:35will eventually end up on the slide now.
- 29:39We'll hold you to that. Looking elsewhere, I was at
- 29:45Easter Rd. as Hibs won four nil against Livingston.
- 29:49Really strong game from Hibs. David Gray saying he hoped they
- 29:53could have had a couple more goals.
- 29:55He said that Evan I asked Evan asked for we saw the big thing
- 30:00was the reaction to losing our game first game of the season,
- 30:03which was a defeat at Hearts just before the international
- 30:06break and they did it in a perfect way.
- 30:09Four goals, a clean sheet and he said again, we could have got
- 30:13more but the biggest fan as follows the intensity and we got
- 30:16that from the start. I mean, I'd agree with what I
- 30:17saw and correlating with what he said there.
- 30:21I definitely think they could have a couple more think Karen
- 30:23Berry and collegiate who got his first league goal of the season
- 30:27record signing for him. So finally and a value that's
- 30:32starting to live up to what he paid with the goal.
- 30:35But I think they could be a little bit disappointed with not
- 30:38going in with more goals and they had 1/2 time and then they
- 30:42run out for now winners with junior Hoyle grabbed too late
- 30:47on. That's Hibs first one since the
- 30:51first league came the season. So two wins the season smart and
- 30:54draws and the defeat against Hearts obviously come in last
- 30:58week. Your last last match day before
- 31:04that it drew now now with Celtic losing 1 nil to Hearts is never
- 31:07great, but in the context of been a tight game between 1st
- 31:12and either further whatever place it was at that point, do
- 31:17you think we're starting to see a bit more of the hips team we
- 31:19saw last season? I think yes and no.
- 31:24I think it's definitely more positive than it was a wee while
- 31:28ago. I saw them get a point at
- 31:33Parkhead and I'm used to a hips team that would come out and
- 31:37attack a wee bit more and they really didn't do that but make
- 31:41that point was still a positive for them.
- 31:44But I wasn't impressed by them to be honest.
- 31:47And they went, I think that Livingston game that they just
- 31:51won was a first win since last beat Livingston in the League
- 31:55Cup, which was before they'd even lost out in Warsaw.
- 31:59So I mean, it could be, it could be one of one of those games
- 32:05like Aberdeen beating Dundee that just starts then turning it
- 32:09around a wee bit. Obviously Hibs is low was
- 32:11nowhere near what Aberdeen's has been this season.
- 32:14Only one league defeat. It's been draws.
- 32:17Draw after draw, it's just draw. Exactly, it's just been an
- 32:20insane amount of draws and it probably sums up the league to
- 32:22be honest. Yeah, but no, I mean, I, I stand
- 32:28by that. If Aberdeen hadn't been so poor,
- 32:30more attention would have been on David Gray because obviously
- 32:34so much was being said. Jimmy Tully may be going because
- 32:38of where Aberdeen were a few weeks ago.
- 32:41But you know, the overall job that David Gray's done has been
- 32:46so positive. Any, any talk I'm good would
- 32:49have been insane. And I, I do think they'll be OK
- 32:54this season. What OK as the Hibs?
- 32:56I don't know, because I think Celtic, Rangers and the Hearts
- 32:59will occupy the top three spots. And at the start of the season,
- 33:03the Hibs fans probably would have said that third was what
- 33:06they're aiming for. So I don't know if they would
- 33:09change that now or not. It's a very competitive league
- 33:11this season. They're shaping up because, you
- 33:13know, you know, you know, Rangers are probably going to
- 33:16get that turned out at some point, you know, with a new
- 33:18magic man defined form again, it'll be it won't be a case
- 33:21similar to what we've seen through the opening fixtures of
- 33:26the season, or at least I mean, that's not what you expect.
- 33:28I'm not going to say whether or not that's the case or not, but
- 33:31yeah. And obviously Aberdeen, you
- 33:33touched on them, they're feeling really struggled with them
- 33:37throughout the start of the season.
- 33:38We struggled throughout the whole latter end of the, you
- 33:41know, last season getting the Scottish Cup one doing a lot
- 33:44from and you know, like a credit he's got in the bank with Don
- 33:47support and the board beat some man one nil at the weekend.
- 33:51That's their second one of the season back-to-back wins.
- 33:56Felon said he's proud of the team.
- 33:59They managed game in different areas and they were resilient at
- 34:02the end to them at shots they had where a lot.
- 34:05We just have to be a little bit better when we're creating
- 34:07chances. Sometimes you just need to
- 34:08someone to step up and Marco's goal was incredibly good.
- 34:11That was magnificent and I'd agree with him there.
- 34:13It was a not a Croy turn, but a ton of sorts.
- 34:17He lures who defended and the the touchline and then just flex
- 34:21it around and then shot as I mean, it's a lovely goal to go
- 34:24and see if you've not seen it. Definitely going to catch the
- 34:27highlights is well worth the watch.
- 34:30There was a questionable via decision, but it wasn't
- 34:34questionable in the sense it wasn't offside.
- 34:36It was definitely offside interference, but it's taken a
- 34:39long time. You know, the balls come out the
- 34:41boxes could arguably be a different phase of play, which I
- 34:45think some man fans would probably argue it was feeling,
- 34:52like you said, being a lot of heat at the start of the season.
- 34:54I mean, I don't know, drop this to you as well.
- 34:56Do we feel like he's got them playing again or is it too early
- 34:58to tell? I think I'll just touch on Hibs,
- 35:03just to go back to the point, just on their game now, I'll
- 35:05quit lie. I think so.
- 35:07With Hibs, I think they're the opposite to Dundee.
- 35:10I think they are in a more stable spot under Grey, but I
- 35:14think that my faults on Grey are somewhat a good one where I
- 35:19think like he doesn't have obviously that the natural
- 35:23experience because not being in a coaching role long enough.
- 35:25So it's not to say we'd never get to, you know, improving, but
- 35:28I do feel like they're starting to show signs of, yeah, like
- 35:34just being tactically sort of inept at some points.
- 35:37Like obviously Joe touched on the Celtic game, right?
- 35:39So obviously they got a good point at Celtic, but the key
- 35:43point for me was how he said they played.
- 35:45So they went to Celtic to get a point effectively and hope maybe
- 35:48to sneak a goal, but didn't really try and entertain and
- 35:52play free form football, which Hibs fans always would refer the
- 35:56Hibs teams play like. So David, they changed that sort
- 35:59of approach when he went to Celtic and OK got that positive
- 36:02result. They played the exact same game
- 36:05in the Derby as well. They just sat with a back five
- 36:08and two holding midfielders and didn't come out didn't really
- 36:11play well midfield at all. So I think like they'll be OK as
- 36:16getting late July. Not don't really know where
- 36:18they're going to finish. I'd like to think they would.
- 36:21Well, I hope they don't, but I'd like to think they'll finish in
- 36:22the top 6. I just feel like unless they
- 36:27start attacking teams and playing like like more freely as
- 36:32a team, like, you know, using the wing backs better than teams
- 36:35where they you'd expect to dominate like that against
- 36:38obviously Levy. But again, I don't know how much
- 36:40to eat into that. I did feel like a lot of the
- 36:44game, I did feel the game was a lot more about like how good the
- 36:48new like how good clutch was. Like I really thought clutch was
- 36:51played really well. I actually shocked that and
- 36:53happy that he's not played and Boyle's been playing stadium for
- 36:55the first few weeks because I think if it had been clutch and
- 36:59Berry upfront there again, like Barry and Boyle, very opposite
- 37:01players, but clutch is obviously a lot younger.
- 37:04How's that potentially? Whereas Boyle obviously he can
- 37:07provide moments, but as everybody knows, he's sort of
- 37:10again at the other side his career.
- 37:12So like that was the main positively Hibs.
- 37:15But that's feel like obviously the man for man have a lot more
- 37:18quality than living. It's hard to tell like how good
- 37:22I went to the goals. Well, that was the second-half.
- 37:25They ran away winners, but Martindale obviously I did as
- 37:28well. But how like performance wise,
- 37:29there's ways to lose a game and it felt like his players didn't
- 37:31really turn up. So the Hibs get the same
- 37:35positive performance and it's a team that does play well.
- 37:37Like if they play like again, a Motherwell or Kilmarnock,
- 37:40whoever, whoever all those teams are that in about Hibs, like are
- 37:43they going to get the same result or outcome?
- 37:46Because if they don't play, they're still playing with that
- 37:48same backfield that Gray never moves from still playing, you
- 37:52know, with the one backs, are they going to be defensive or
- 37:54are they going to actually play with any freedom in the
- 37:56midfield? I just feel like is like non
- 37:58existent like so I don't like if I was to put that Hibs midfield
- 38:02against that Motherwell Field midfield right now, I know what
- 38:04one I'd want and it isn't have just midfield.
- 38:07So yeah, I do wonder where they'll they'll end up under
- 38:09grief if he is again, won't make changes and tweak how he plays
- 38:13games. But again, it comes with
- 38:14experience. It makes sense and recognize it
- 38:16because obviously did get a turn around last time for them.
- 38:18And and generally speaking, like you've said, James, I don't
- 38:21think like, you know, there's not certainly not racked up a
- 38:23lot of losses. But here they are the two
- 38:26European Cups and League Cups. So they've only got the league
- 38:29to focus on. So yeah, it'd be interesting to
- 38:32see Aberdeen short and sweet with them.
- 38:35To be honest. They don't trust to lean.
- 38:36I give the on the Scottish Cup. He'd be bent him.
- 38:39I don't I don't I don't buy into whatever you fancy.
- 38:42But to lean like it's his record as shocking it so like.
- 38:47I mean, Finn obviously not on the podcast today, he's away.
- 38:50He's actually travelling to Athens for Aberdeen's Conference
- 38:53League fixture. He, I mean, when I speak, when I
- 38:56spoke to him about personally the Scotland game and he
- 38:59references the Scottish Cup game is like a big thing like that.
- 39:02You know, he brought such a good night.
- 39:04You know, that seemed down a lot of like I said, credit in the
- 39:09bank with the guys and they don't support and.
- 39:11But for me it's like, it's like it feels like a 90 minute man to
- 39:14be honest. For me, like 90 minute man won a
- 39:17Scottish Cup. It's obviously some massive,
- 39:19actually one in that trophy is a massive achievement, no doubt.
- 39:21There's no doubt with that. Nobody would.
- 39:23They thought that we're going to do it, especially with the form
- 39:25they'd been in. But that form has never changed
- 39:28after it, before it. It's been like a slide for like
- 39:31what we're like nearly a year now had bad results.
- 39:33But the 90, the 90 minute man carries on because he's got in
- 39:37the bank if we played. Like winter football, for
- 39:40example, in the season started in January.
- 39:42It'd be a very grim tale for the Don.
- 39:45So I don't think, you know, I know that's not the table we're
- 39:47looking at. And there's all lifts and buts
- 39:49in that respect. But yeah, I mean real, meant to
- 39:53be seen. Like I think.
- 39:54I think like obviously very, very unlikely to happen or touch
- 39:58any kind of like with their enemy.
- 40:00But like if Macinnis had the drop off that he has, he will
- 40:03not get to the Scottish Cup final.
- 40:04He would be sacked. So I think like it's just a mad,
- 40:11it's a really mad scenario. But the longer from from my
- 40:14perspective, longer twins are the better to be honest.
- 40:16So I just think like they do have players and they do have
- 40:19quality. They've made loads of sign and
- 40:20spent loads of money as well. And I add for a normal forum
- 40:23team, so like. Again, to echo the point,
- 40:27they've spent all that money and if you think about what they've
- 40:29had as an outcome from leaks, which is your bread and bar,
- 40:33like the drop off is huge when you consider what they've spent.
- 40:37I mean, look at if you put them in and like compact compare to
- 40:40like say St. Mirren, right?
- 40:43If you just look at pure leak results and we've got something
- 40:46from like the start of the drop off till now and look at Saint
- 40:48Mirren's points versus Aberdeen. And again, look at the budget
- 40:51side, like they're miles apart. So like, I just, I don't know,
- 40:56like they've got good players there, but I don't think T1 will
- 40:59get the tune out of them like. I just, I disagree with you, but
- 41:03I mean, I was at the game again, shark to the Nets, and you can
- 41:07see from there the confidence it was brewing.
- 41:10I think there's a special player in Carlson and maybe Tilling's
- 41:15not the best guy to do it, but I think he's good enough to get
- 41:19enough of a team to do relatively well.
- 41:23But at this point, I actually don't know what relative success
- 41:26is for Aberdeen. I don't know what they want from
- 41:29this season. When they were I, I was always
- 41:33confident they turn around enough to not go down.
- 41:37I know that sounds tough, but after they hadn't scored in the
- 41:39first six or seven games, it was genuinely on my mind at one
- 41:42point. For a while I said I still don't
- 41:46think they'll make top 6. The league is so tight now.
- 41:48It's actually not it's not out of their out of their realms at
- 41:55all. So it wouldn't surprise me.
- 41:57I think they've got a better squad than a lot of the teams
- 42:02that are performing above expectations that you're
- 42:07Kilmarnock's and sit Byrons and some are doesn't notoriously
- 42:11hard going to go to. So for Aberdeen to go there
- 42:15don't they've got result there in a long time as well and I
- 42:18think that does show the confidence growing and the
- 42:22confidence plays such a big part in football if the confidence is
- 42:24there. And you can see the lack of
- 42:26confidence in the games that I went as well when they were
- 42:29doing Bradley I saw against Livingston when they drew Not
- 42:32Now and I saw great with the League Cup to Motherwell and you
- 42:36can see what they were trying but there was no belief there.
- 42:39I think Shakhtar really helped them in that respect and I can't
- 42:43see them growing enough. I don't think it'll be a
- 42:46spectacular season by their standards, but just like I said
- 42:49about your Hibs, I think they'll be OK.
- 42:51Either of you know, like what the the European spots are for
- 42:54the end of the season because I know they're getting gradually
- 42:56worse. But like I'm just like you just
- 42:58said there, Joe, a bit like if we think that Celtic, Rangers,
- 43:02Hearts take top three, Aberdeen and Hibs will both be definitely
- 43:04aiming for four. There are.
- 43:06Five there are five spots 5 but they're they're worse than they
- 43:10were this. Year.
- 43:10There's just more, like more qualifiers.
- 43:13Yeah, yeah. OK, cool.
- 43:15I think the main difference is 4th place well had like Hibs had
- 43:20the season. I think they were starting the
- 43:22conferences of Europa League. As the best as the next best
- 43:25spot, though still the Scottish Cup, right?
- 43:27Yes, yeah, that's why like Hibs would normally have got it
- 43:30because I believe won the cup. It's going to be some Scottish
- 43:32Cup then. The only other fixture in the
- 43:36Premier League was Scottish Premiership even was Motherwell
- 43:421 Fokker 2. So Fokker now only one lost in
- 43:46the last four. Quite good going first side
- 43:48that's came up. There was a VAR decision though
- 43:53when the game was at Nell. Nell Motherwell having a goal
- 43:57chopped off. Yeah.
- 43:58And ask you had to say on that. He said we should have had.
- 44:01We should have scored another. And I don't think I'm ever going
- 44:03to understand how they disliked that goal.
- 44:06That's one of the worst of the year decisions I've ever seen in
- 44:08my career. I've been for me, Brad Spencer,
- 44:13that player who's failed, doesn't even appeal for it.
- 44:16There's no, you know, outcry for a foul.
- 44:19Very soft. Yeah.
- 44:23Strange one there, but I was given nonetheless.
- 44:27Coming down into the Championship, two big results.
- 44:30One was the 5th Derby mean I was at the game at least.
- 44:35Joe, obviously you're from the Bell and you said you've got a
- 44:37slight stake in that. Yeah, I'm actually from
- 44:40Kirkcaldy I. Didn't realise there's so many
- 44:43Kirkcaldy but he's in this I. Know So another another big
- 44:46grief fan then. No, no, far from it.
- 44:49All right, growing growing up, if I wasn't a park head, Eastend
- 44:56was the granddad go to. So I'm saying I'm from Kirkland.
- 45:01I was born there. I've never lived in the in the
- 45:04town park. Nearest maternity ward seems to
- 45:06have taken a lot of names. But no, my heart's always
- 45:12belonged to the only city in Fife, you see.
- 45:16And say when you lived there, journalist.
- 45:21But no I and with Neil Lennon being the manager there now as
- 45:25as well, been been keeping an even closer eye on them and I'm.
- 45:31Proud to dislike them, I guess. And oh.
- 45:33There you go. So, and I was, I was happy.
- 45:36I, I, I never expected a good game between these two sides,
- 45:40especially when it's been shown on television for like every
- 45:43championship game that's shown on the tail is an absolute
- 45:45stinker. But I I was happy that the
- 45:50Furman got over the line because they've had a really bad record
- 45:53than that fixture recently. And the Forman's problem I
- 45:58actually stand by since Kevin went to Hibs from them, they've
- 46:03never found a proper replacement.
- 46:05I still don't think Chris is that.
- 46:08But the problem has been scoring goals and they managed to do
- 46:11that twice on Friday night. And to be honest, once the
- 46:15Herman got one, I couldn't really see Race threatening too
- 46:19much. And James, sorry to say, but
- 46:22they never did. And look at before the game
- 46:26people going to me. Well, how do you finger one
- 46:28tonight? Do you think going tonight like,
- 46:29well, you know, Rovers and I went throwers.
- 46:31I was going to be honest. I think it'll be a game where
- 46:35two teams play quite bad. I know the Rovers haven't been
- 46:38in great form. I couldn't I didn't see that
- 46:40change coming. I welcomed that.
- 46:42But then and I'd spent, you know, if Dunfermline place
- 46:45slightly less worse than us, they'll get the one.
- 46:48And if they don't lose. And I felt honestly, I felt that
- 46:50was the case. It was a game lacking in
- 46:52quality. Rovers come off the back.
- 46:56Our game against air which was sandwiched between the Greece
- 46:59and Bellus games for Scotland. One of the worst performances
- 47:02I've seen for us in a very long times.
- 47:06The lack of creativity when he's once brothers begging for
- 47:08thefted bullet because didn't see a scorn and then, like he
- 47:12says, the game went on at East End.
- 47:13I didn't. I was lacking any faith that
- 47:15we're going to get a goal and I hate being so critical on my
- 47:17team, but it just. Seems honest to you don't want
- 47:20to be deluded and say things are fair when they're not.
- 47:22The game plan just seemed to be they seem to bear a key in trend
- 47:29and chatter into the channels and trying to get runners going
- 47:32and the family just mopped up that we didn't have to work hard
- 47:36to keep us out. And you know, the goal is scored
- 47:39by the Stewart opener was a moment of real quality.
- 47:42But. What does he keep her playing up
- 47:44by the way? I.
- 47:45Don't know, it's just it was just no, that was on real moment
- 47:48of quality in the game. I think Stevens is kind of
- 47:50culprit for their second and Chris and Kane get gold side.
- 47:54They probably expected more of my guy who has experience, but
- 47:57it happens. Yeah, like you know, that's one
- 48:01one win, one draw on our last six.
- 48:03So partick vessel for the Rovers of the Saturday.
- 48:07A bit big game for Robson to try and get a tune I think.
- 48:10He's in trouble already, James. I didn't until Friday night.
- 48:15I'd kind of I'd been up and down wall seen us play for.
- 48:18We were hard done by. You know, Ross County didn't
- 48:21really offer much often the goals he scored different.
- 48:24We controlled the game, but we ran up there knowing they hadn't
- 48:27won a game all season. It was probably just going to be
- 48:28one of these things where they got the win.
- 48:30They were finally, you know, due it whether or not there and on
- 48:33the patch sort of thing. Yeah.
- 48:36And I think being losing the Derby, losing the game against
- 48:39the air was hard because it's it was nice to lose that fashion
- 48:43just, you know, no hope. And the performance coming into
- 48:46this one, it's got the extra but a needle with a Darby, you know,
- 48:49that puts the pressure on a more.
- 48:52So, yeah, see what comes on Saturday with that.
- 48:55Elsewhere in the championship, Smokey's Smoke show up at a Gay
- 49:01Field St. Johnstone, their first first
- 49:05league defeat of the season. But and it's now only one
- 49:08winning the last four for them. So they're starting to, you
- 49:12know, find the championships not going to be a walk in the park
- 49:14in that respect. Yeah.
- 49:17Are both three one winners there?
- 49:19Don's Lonnie Finley Marshall grabbed a double there.
- 49:23It was one of my mates in the chat actually said when we saw
- 49:26that result, he said well, that's a proper.
- 49:28That's welcome to the championships.
- 49:29And Johnson. Yeah, because that's the sort of
- 49:32is is a very competitive league and I think on anyone's day,
- 49:35anyone could be anyone else. And that kind of that that
- 49:37result for me just screamed out, you know, that's just the
- 49:42championship all over really. And I've always found it to be
- 49:46the more competitive league in Scotland.
- 49:48Maybe the season, not so much for the what's going on in the
- 49:52top flight, but yeah. And then and then dipping down
- 49:57into League One and two of it's the League 1.
- 50:00Hamilton and Stenoschmir keep up the pace at the top of the
- 50:03table. They're both on 20 points after
- 50:05Hamilton won four nil against Montrose and Stanley B Cove one
- 50:10nil. Not looking too good for Cove.
- 50:12They're at the foot of the table after 10 games with only two
- 50:14points, only one goal in their last six games.
- 50:18That's pretty hard going. Over in a really bad way.
- 50:20Yeah, it's not looking good. You just look at the table.
- 50:24After coming second last year, a lot of their fans really would
- 50:27have wanted them to take on after they weren't even that far
- 50:30behind our growth. They got the other playoff final
- 50:32and lost to Airdrie, but you could kind of see early on it
- 50:37wasn't going to be that kind of season for them this year.
- 50:40After the financial issues came out, I didn't expect it to be
- 50:44this bad and Montrose are probably thanking their lucky
- 50:47stars because before the financial issues came out,
- 50:50Montrose probably would have been the favourites to go down
- 50:52and they're still not doing great, but it's looking like
- 50:56Cover gonna be the ones that are fighting for their lives.
- 50:59Yeah, it's not looking good for them.
- 51:00And then League 2 Spartans still clear three points at the top of
- 51:05the league. He's cool, bright.
- 51:07Obviously the new boys in the league continue their good start
- 51:11to life in the 4th tier. So yeah, a lot going on over all
- 51:15the leagues. I think that kind of draws our
- 51:18discussion to an end because we have been on for a wee bit and
- 51:21unconscious. We've we've snapped this one in
- 51:23on a work break, some of us. So we're needing to get back to
- 51:26that. Anyway, yeah, good discussion
- 51:29guys. Glad to have me both on.
- 51:31Any leaving thoughts before we end this one?
- 51:36Not from me. Just on just on Spartans like
- 51:40they deserve a lot of credit because East Kilbride came into
- 51:43this. Everyone knew they had decent
- 51:45financial backing. Obviously a lot of publicity
- 51:48around, but Kennedy inside Ferry being involved as well.
- 51:52But Spartans have been the ones that have really been had their
- 51:56foot on the gas this year and the vote they were I've seen
- 51:59that's they were doubt they were very mid table last year.
- 52:02No wondering really knew what to expect from them and their away
- 52:06form has just been spectacular. And so that Elgin a few a few
- 52:11weeks ago and it's Senator, It's a hard place to go to.
- 52:14And then Elgin will be really worried this season as well.
- 52:19Yeah, well, like I said, exciting, exciting weekend.
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- 52:58It's great talking to you all. Sure, next time we discuss in
- 53:04the Premiership there'll be a big game all taking place and
- 53:08there'll be plenty to talk about with that one.
- 53:10Arts and Celtic at Tynecastle. It's Sunday like we discussed,
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