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The Late Debate | 2 October · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Late Debase. Good evening and welcome to
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  Speaker 1: the program.
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  Speaker 2: I'm back.
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  Speaker 1: If you are watching an.
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  Speaker 3: APM, You've got another hour of midnight. I am, of
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  Speaker 3: course Cayler Bond, joined by Liz Storer and filling in
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  Speaker 3: for James mcway.
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  Speaker 1: Too much, too much.
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  Speaker 4: Carlub Bond is barely.
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  Speaker 3: Enough, exactly exactly the great Kel Richards. That's why we
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  Speaker 3: pay him the big market so he can pump the
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  Speaker 3: steam up me like that now. The Democrats are so
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  Speaker 3: desperate for people to vote early and vote often that
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  Speaker 3: in one state they've actually banned voter. ID will tell
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  Speaker 3: you about that later in the program. In the papers,
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  Speaker 3: one council is going after aggressive dogs halleluliah, I say
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  Speaker 3: after dog attacks sword to two a day last year.
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  Speaker 3: And the Merriam Whibster Dictionary. What am I saying, Miriam
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  Speaker 3: Wibster Dictionary.
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  Speaker 1: Kel is going to give me a real word.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry, sorry, I've said to much tonight You're going to
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  Speaker 3: get a lot more. The Mirriam Webster Dictionary has added
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  Speaker 3: a whole bunch of words. Merriam Webster Dictionary is not
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  Speaker 3: one of those words. Donald Trump gets to mention and
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  Speaker 3: our wordsmith mister Richards will run us through it later
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  Speaker 3: in the show.
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  Speaker 1: Now look for all my faults.
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  Speaker 3: I am a member of gen Z, or as Liz
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  Speaker 3: likes to say, gen Z. I know mister Richards takes
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  Speaker 3: issue with that, and we'll get into that a little
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  Speaker 3: further in the program. But a recruiter by the name
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  Speaker 3: of Tammy Christophus Bayless has talked to The Daily Mail
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  Speaker 3: about the problem with gen Z people trying to get
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  Speaker 3: into the workforce.
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  Speaker 1: And I've got to say, I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Not surprised by this because as far as I can see,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, I am one, I have worked with
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  Speaker 3: these people and I see them in everyday life. They
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  Speaker 3: were raised in a generation where everyone got a participation
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  Speaker 3: middle It didn't matter how well you did in the
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  Speaker 3: running race at school, whether you came first or you
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  Speaker 3: came tenth, everyone got a pat on the back, and
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  Speaker 3: we're it's told they were special and that you were
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  Speaker 3: just as good as the other children. Now, when they
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  Speaker 3: play in local sports at a young level, there's no scoring.
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  Speaker 3: They don't even have ladders or grand finals. They're told
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  Speaker 3: that there is no importance in winning or succeeding. And
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  Speaker 3: so we are starting to see the results of that,
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  Speaker 3: Chrisophus Bayless says, there's a new thing I've got, interview anxiety.
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  Speaker 3: The gen Z people say you have to be uncomfortable,
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  Speaker 3: she says, to get somewhere, and there's.
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  Speaker 1: No concept of that.
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  Speaker 3: They say this isn't my safe space, therefore I'm not
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  Speaker 3: going to do it.
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  Speaker 1: Then they're upset that they don't have a job.
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  Speaker 3: She goes on to say that young employees are too
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  Speaker 3: scared to pick up the phone, first to a potential
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  Speaker 3: employer and then to other people once and if they
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  Speaker 3: get a job somewhere, I mean, for heaven's say, it's
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  Speaker 3: the most efficient way to get anything done. But you
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  Speaker 3: might have noticed no one actually picks up the phone
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  Speaker 3: these days. She even says that young people are so
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  Speaker 3: scared going into job interviews that she, as a recruiter,
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  Speaker 3: has seen them bring their parents in with them. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I cannot get over that list. Imagine being so scared
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  Speaker 3: to go for a job that you take your parents.
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  Speaker 1: Into to hold your hand.
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  Speaker 3: It's a bit like Kamala Harris taking Tim Walsons to
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  Speaker 3: hold her hand.
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  Speaker 1: In that verse interview, she.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean imagine walking in and thinking that you're
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  Speaker 3: going to get a job. If you have to take
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  Speaker 3: your bloody parents with you in an old your hand.
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  Speaker 2: It's a sorry state of affairs, which seems to be
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  Speaker 2: the state of play whenever we're talking about gen Z.
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  Speaker 2: This is a generation that has been labeled the loneliest generation,
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  Speaker 2: the most anxious generation, and here they are just struggling
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  Speaker 2: to do simple things.
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  Speaker 5: Like get a job.
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  Speaker 2: It's very sad, indeed, but as easy as it is
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  Speaker 2: to pay out on them and be like, yeah, there's
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  Speaker 2: no flakes and they've been raised, everyone's getting participation awards.
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  Speaker 2: There's no real credit for merit nowadays. We've also got
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  Speaker 2: to take into account the fact that the kids aren't okay.
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  Speaker 4: Check out this headline from.
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  Speaker 2: February in which a report by the Resolution Foundation found
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  Speaker 2: that people in their twenties are more likely to be out.
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  Speaker 1: Of work because of the poor mental health ravaging gen Z.
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  Speaker 2: It found that, according to this official data, thirty four
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  Speaker 2: percent of people aged eighteen to twenty four reported symptoms
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  Speaker 2: of mental disorder such as depression, anxiety, m bi polar
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  Speaker 2: And we know that this is something that is very
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  Speaker 2: prevalent in this particular generation. And I crunched the numbers
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  Speaker 2: because this is actually UK data, but it's exactly the
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  Speaker 2: same In Australia. One in three gen z report the
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  Speaker 2: same experiencing depression, experiencing anxiety, and so something like applying
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  Speaker 2: for a job that we would just go, oh, well,
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  Speaker 2: that's a rite of passage. Everyone's got to do that. Heck,
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  Speaker 2: at fourteen years of age, I was a checkout chick,
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  Speaker 2: Like I was front facing, talking to people every day,
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  Speaker 2: did all the training, didn't think twice about it. But
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  Speaker 2: I'm part of a very blessed generation. I think, the
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  Speaker 2: last that grew up without social media, that grew up
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  Speaker 2: without these devices attached to us, and this immediacy, immediacy,
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  Speaker 2: this competition of constantly competing with our peers and trying
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  Speaker 2: to look the coolest and best in every stage of life.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that has caught up with this generation.
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  Speaker 2: Something chronic and we are we're seeing it manifest, even
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to something as basic as a teenager
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  Speaker 2: just applying for a job, or early twenties out of
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  Speaker 2: UNI just not having the confidence to go for this
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  Speaker 2: kind of thing.
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  Speaker 4: But it's not normal for human beings to be like that.
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  Speaker 6: Something has happened along the way, because we start off
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  Speaker 6: more confident. I was playing table tennis with my four
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  Speaker 6: year old grandson today. The rules for four year old
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  Speaker 6: table tennessee you take the net away and the ball
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  Speaker 6: rolls across the table, and the scoring system is really simple.
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  Speaker 6: About every thirty seconds. He shouts hi when and then
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  Speaker 6: he was going around. That's the four year old, so
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  Speaker 6: I'm the boss. So that's how they start. So what
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  Speaker 6: has gone wrong with this? That's just a normal kid.
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  Speaker 6: They start off with that sort of confidence. They start
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  Speaker 6: off being happy kids. I find it really hard to
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  Speaker 6: understand what's gone wrong. Jordan Peterson I think touched a
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  Speaker 6: nerve with this generation when he wrote his book International
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  Speaker 6: Best Set of twelve Rules for Life, and at the
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  Speaker 6: heart of the book he's saying take responsibility. And my
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  Speaker 6: concern I've had I had a furious discussion with somewhere
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  Speaker 6: on talkback once about this, and I said, you know,
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  Speaker 6: you don't need trigger warnings, you don't need safe spaces.
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  Speaker 6: All do you need to do is grow up your
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  Speaker 6: adults and just take And the key that Jordan Peterson
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  Speaker 6: keeps pushing is take responsibility. If you know someone in
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  Speaker 6: that age group, they just need to give them a
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  Speaker 6: copy of Jordan pages and books for stuff, which is
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  Speaker 6: a really good idea.
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  Speaker 2: It is.
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  Speaker 6: But this g z, as we say in Australian English,
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  Speaker 6: this gen z it was born in from nineteen ninety
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  Speaker 6: seven to twenty twelve.
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  Speaker 4: So it's not a big age group.
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  Speaker 6: If they're unusually distressed, if something has gone wrong, I'm baffled.
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  Speaker 3: I think they've had responsibility taken away from them. So
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  Speaker 3: part of it goes back to what I was saying before.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone gets a participation medal, So there's there is nothing
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  Speaker 3: special about anyone. There's no reason to strive for success
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  Speaker 3: because success or winning or whatever you want to call
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  Speaker 3: it is frowned upon because you know it might hurt someone.
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  Speaker 4: If they lose.
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  Speaker 3: Well, losing and learning how to cope with losing is
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  Speaker 3: just as important as learning how to win, because out
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  Speaker 3: there in the real world you have to deal with
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  Speaker 3: losing and difficulty all the time. Other thing is that
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  Speaker 3: generationally things have changed. When you were a child, kel
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  Speaker 3: it was not unusual for someone to leave school at thirteen, fourteen,
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  Speaker 3: fifteen and go off and get a job because they
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  Speaker 3: had to put food and money and whatever on the
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  Speaker 3: table to support the family. Of course, no one does
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  Speaker 3: that anymore because you have to stay in school, which
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  Speaker 3: in some ways is a good thing, but it taught
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  Speaker 3: people responsibility from a very young age. They had to
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  Speaker 3: step up and do something with their lives. And I
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  Speaker 3: don't think that exists to the same level anymore. They
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  Speaker 3: get molly coddled. Kids don't leave home and go out
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  Speaker 3: and fend for themselves until well into their twenties. Now.
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  Speaker 3: Part of that is the economic conditions and the fact
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  Speaker 3: they can't afford a house and they can't afford a family,
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  Speaker 3: et cetera.
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  Speaker 1: But we are essentially retarding.
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  Speaker 3: The growth of children to the point where they don't
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  Speaker 3: actually grow up until they're nearly thirty.
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  Speaker 6: So no wonder, no responsibile correct don't give them a correct.
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  Speaker 3: So no wonder they can't go and get a job
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  Speaker 3: because you know, you might have that at fifteen because
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  Speaker 3: that was the expected thing to do. But when you
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  Speaker 3: stop the growth of a child, well they can't do
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  Speaker 3: it until at twenty five now.
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  Speaker 2: And also let's couple that with the poor educational outcomes
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  Speaker 2: that we've also seen across the Western world. Whether it's
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  Speaker 2: what do they call them these days, it keeps changing.
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  Speaker 2: It's not tee anymore. What's it called now ata ata,
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  Speaker 2: the atar scores, etctera and so on. We know that
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  Speaker 2: we're doing very badly, thank you. We're failing kids on
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  Speaker 2: that score as well. So is it any wonder that
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  Speaker 2: even after leaving school, their levels of confidence probably aren't
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  Speaker 2: that high in the world of adults. So mix that
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  Speaker 2: together with this mental disorder pandemic that we're seeing in
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  Speaker 2: gen Z as well as these poor educational outcomes, which
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  Speaker 2: we recognize, they're being very poorly equipped for the next phase.
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  Speaker 3: Of their lives.
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  Speaker 2: Is it any wonder that they're genuinely too anxious to
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  Speaker 2: do some thing that previous generations have thought. We're extremely
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  Speaker 2: basic indeed to the US now where on Monday we
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  Speaker 2: brought you the extraordinary story of the Biden administration Department
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  Speaker 2: of Justice, the Jokes in the name, pursuing the state
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  Speaker 2: of Alabama for taking over three thy two hundred illegals
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  Speaker 2: off their voter rolls. They don't want them voting in
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  Speaker 2: the upcoming election. No illegals should be, but the DOJ
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  Speaker 2: is suing Alabama for cleaning up.
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  Speaker 1: Their voter rolls.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Governor Newsom in California has decided to take a
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  Speaker 2: different tactic today signing into law a ban on asking
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  Speaker 2: people for ID to vote. California is one of the
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  Speaker 2: fourteen states in America which doesn't require voter ID. He's
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  Speaker 2: now banned local governments from requiring it. This was after
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  Speaker 2: a vote earlier this year. One council in California took
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  Speaker 2: it upon themselves to.
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  Speaker 1: Take it to a vote.
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  Speaker 2: What do the people want? Do you want voter ID?
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  Speaker 2: Over fifty percent said yes, we do in our patch.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you very much. So Governor Newsom, tell me you're
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  Speaker 2: not cheating, buddy. Seriously, tell me you're not cheating Democrats.
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  Speaker 2: He's now signed into law. Nobody can ask for voter
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  Speaker 2: ID now. Of course, this is to cement Democrat control
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  Speaker 2: in Democrat run states. This is not the first bill
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  Speaker 2: that we've seen of this nature. But no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: they say, this is all in the name of making
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  Speaker 2: sure that poorly disenfranchised citizens who clearly don't have the
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  Speaker 2: means or brain power to obtain ID but still want
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  Speaker 2: to participate in the elections.
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  Speaker 1: We want to make sure that they're still able to participate.
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  Speaker 2: This is the argument that we have every time it
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  Speaker 2: comes up in Australia, and everyone gets out the smallest
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  Speaker 2: violin to say no, no, this is for the disenfranchise.
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  Speaker 2: A voter idea would mean that they're not able to vote,
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  Speaker 2: but in this instance, it's clearly to make sure that
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  Speaker 2: illegals can vote back. In twenty twenty two, California had
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  Speaker 2: the most illegal aliens of any other state at one
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  Speaker 2: point eight million, So you can imagine how many more
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  Speaker 2: they have now after two years, on top of that
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  Speaker 2: of a Biden administration that has allowed over ten million
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  Speaker 2: illegals across the border.
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  Speaker 4: There should be voter idea everywhere.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, even if you don't have a lot of
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  Speaker 6: illegals in your state, I'll explain it because you'll probably
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  Speaker 6: a bit innocent, don't know how it works.
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  Speaker 4: I'll explain the how it works.
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  Speaker 6: What happens is when the electoral role closes, then what
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  Speaker 6: they do is no, no, it's what you do.
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  Speaker 4: You see if you go through.
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  Speaker 6: All the columns of recent deaths, because they've died after
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  Speaker 6: the electoral role closed, so they're not off the roll.
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  Speaker 4: They're still there. Their name is on them.
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  Speaker 1: You speak from experience, it sounds like.
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  Speaker 6: And then you go from booth to booth and you
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  Speaker 6: vote under one name and another name and another and
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  Speaker 6: there's really no way that can catch you. And you
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  Speaker 6: can cast a dozen votes that vote. If you've got
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  Speaker 6: a team of organized people who are going around doing that,
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  Speaker 6: you'll end up with enough votes to tip some seats.
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  Speaker 4: So that's the principle that you were talking about.
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  Speaker 6: Caleb mentioned vote early, vote off, and that is how
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  Speaker 6: it actually works. Voter ID is essential in America. They
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  Speaker 6: don't have a centralized voting authority like our Australian Electoral Commission.
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  Speaker 6: It's done by every say so, there's fifty states, fifty systems.
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  Speaker 6: Now there's only fourteen that don't require voter ID, and
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  Speaker 6: the fact that Australia doesn't require voter ID is shameful.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I can't get over that.
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  Speaker 3: The argument from the Californian Attorney general, his name is
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  Speaker 3: Rob Bonter, and he is driving me bunta with what
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  Speaker 3: he has to say.
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  Speaker 1: There's another word for anity your.
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  Speaker 3: List he but he says the right to freely cast
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  Speaker 3: your vote is the foundation of our democracy. And Huntington
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  Speaker 3: Beach's voter ID policy, this is a jurisdiction in California.
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  Speaker 2: They're the ones where the residents vote.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, lies in the face of this principle.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so you are able to freely cast your vote
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  Speaker 3: once you prove who you are and that you are
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  Speaker 3: on the electoral role. I mean, I didn't know that
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  Speaker 3: the rules included that you must be able to freely
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  Speaker 3: cast your vote, which isn't actually your vote, it's someone
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  Speaker 3: else's vote because it's done in someone else's name.
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  Speaker 1: How can anyone argue.
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  Speaker 3: Against voter ID unless they want people who shouldn't be
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  Speaker 3: able to vote to be able to vote. And this
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  Speaker 3: argument that's often run about, oh well, you know it'll
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  Speaker 3: disenfranchise particularly black people or homeless people, or whatever other
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  Speaker 3: minority you want to come up with. Let's take the
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  Speaker 3: homeless one as an argument. For instance, most people anywhere
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  Speaker 3: in the Western world, even if they are homeless, still
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  Speaker 3: get some sort of government benefit, whether that is in
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  Speaker 3: the US food stamps or here at some kind of
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  Speaker 3: scentillic payment. They're not entirely institute. They just don't have
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  Speaker 3: enough money to put a roof over their head, so
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  Speaker 3: they come in contact with a system somewhere. And in
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  Speaker 3: order to come in contact with a government system somewhere,
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  Speaker 3: you need a way to identify yourself so they can
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  Speaker 3: give you that money or benefit. So if you're getting
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  Speaker 3: a government benefit in some way, you have a form
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  Speaker 3: of ID, which is almost every single person on the
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  Speaker 3: face of Australia, the US, Great Britain.
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  Speaker 1: Et cetera.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how you can possibly argue against it.
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  Speaker 3: I do know how, because you want people to vote
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  Speaker 3: who shouldn't vote.
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  Speaker 1: But like, there's no.
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  Speaker 4: Liniments and I've persuaded, we're on. We don't need persuade.
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  Speaker 2: We're on a unity ticket and.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure they are at home as I'm glad someone's
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  Speaker 3: on a unity ticket with a date now. The vice
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  Speaker 3: presidential debate today, what a ripper it was. Jabban wiped
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  Speaker 3: the floor with Tim Waltz. He was cool, he was calm,
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  Speaker 3: he was collected. He was able to meet every attack
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  Speaker 3: that Waltz leveled at him. He was able to meet
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  Speaker 3: every attack that the moderators leveled at him, and there
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  Speaker 3: were a few of them. I think it really shone
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  Speaker 3: through that JD. Evans is not only a great orator,
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  Speaker 3: but he's put in the work to front up to
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  Speaker 3: the media.
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  Speaker 1: Particularly the lefty media.
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  Speaker 3: He knows how to deal with them because he's unafraid
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  Speaker 3: to talk to the voters, even those who might disagree
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  Speaker 3: with him.
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  Speaker 1: Unlike Tim Waltz.
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  Speaker 3: Who's barely done any interviews. He only shows up at
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  Speaker 3: occasional rallies. Of course, that interview with Kamala Harris on CNN,
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  Speaker 3: he had to be there to hold her hand. You
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  Speaker 3: hide them away and you put them in this situation
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  Speaker 3: and it doesn't always go well. So Tim Waltz seemed
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  Speaker 3: a bit nervous, to the point where he started telling
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  Speaker 3: us he was a knucklehead.
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  Speaker 5: My community knows who I am. They saw where I
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  Speaker 5: was at they look. I will be the first to
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  Speaker 5: tell you I have poured my heart into my community.
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  Speaker 5: I've tried to do the best I can, but I've
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  Speaker 5: not been perfect, and I'm a knucklehead at times. My
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  Speaker 5: commitment has been from the big to make sure that
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  Speaker 5: I'm there for the people, to make sure that I
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  Speaker 5: get this right. I will say more than anything. Many times,
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  Speaker 5: I will talk a lot. I will get caught up
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  Speaker 5: in the rhetoric.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a knucklehead, I'm from Minnesota, and I am here
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  Speaker 3: to help. What a way to sell yourself to the people.
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  Speaker 3: And then, of course he's been saying for a long
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  Speaker 3: time that he was in China when the Tianamen Square
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  Speaker 3: attacks happened, and this formed his view about how important
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  Speaker 3: democracy was and how governance should be run. Well, we
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: found out today that he wasn't actually in China when
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: Tianaman Square happened, So of course he was asked about this,
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: and take a listen to the answer. I don't think
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: he quite hits the point.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Here, Governor.
• 17:43
  Speaker 7: Just to follow up on that, the question was can
• 17:46
  Speaker 7: you explain the notrepancy?
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: All I said on this was is I got there
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: that summer and misspoke on this, So I will just
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: that's what I've said. So I was in Hong Kong
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: and China during the democracy protest went in and from
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: that I learned a lot of what needed to be
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: in governance.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: He learnt a lot and rich.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: For those of us who actually watched this debate, it
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: was eyewatering bad watching Tim Waltz and the split screen
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: difference that you see between Vance just calls the cucumber.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: He's got his facts on his side. He's been doing
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: his murder boards, as Kel explained to you last night,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: prepping for this.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: He is a well oiled machine.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Didn't once falter and compare that to Waltz, who looked
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: fifty percent terrified, fifty percent confused the entire time, whereas Waltz,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: sorry not Waltz, Vance took it upon himself to fact
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: check the fact checkers when they.
• 18:52
  Speaker 8: Tried it on with him.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Check out this interaction between himself and the moderators.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: He wasn't letting them get away.
• 18:59
  Speaker 9: With any.
• 19:01
  Speaker 7: Nice for our viewers. Springfield, Ohio does have a large
• 19:05
  Speaker 7: number of Haitian migrants who have legal status temporary protective Well,
• 19:11
  Speaker 7: thank you, senator.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: We have so much to.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Get to, Margaret. I think it's important to turn out
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: of the economy. Thanks Margaret.
• 19:17
  Speaker 10: The rules were that you got we're going to fact check,
• 19:19
  Speaker 10: and since you're fact checking me, I think it's important
• 19:22
  Speaker 10: to say what's actually going on.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Vans quite literally gave a masterclass in how to debate.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Check Out this point he made on illegal immigrants and
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: the impact that's having on housing in America, where he
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: starts out supposedly agreeing with his opposition, only to flip
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: the tables spectacularly.
• 19:46
  Speaker 10: Well, first of all, Tim just said something that I
• 19:49
  Speaker 10: agree with. We don't want to blame immigrants for higher
• 19:51
  Speaker 10: housing prices, but we do want to blame Kamala Harris
• 19:54
  Speaker 10: for letting in millions of illegal aliens into this country,
• 19:57
  Speaker 10: which does drive up costs him twenty five million legal
• 20:02
  Speaker 10: aliens competing with Americans for scarce Holmes is one of
• 20:05
  Speaker 10: the most significant drivers of home prices in the country.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Is he was just hanging his head at that point, Michael,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, how do I handle this guy? He
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: is steamrolling me. This was a night of redemption for Vance,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: who has been slammed by the mainstream media, the regime
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: media in America. The charade is over at this point.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Anyone who's seen even the smallest clip of this debate
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: knows it was a bloodbath.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: I reckon, I reckon.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Jd Vance walked out of there tonight singing kill and
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: you know what he was seeing.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: I was dancing with Ma.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Baby to the tim tim Timothy Wold, because he danced
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: all over him at all level hits.
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: In fact, he's contributed to Woods to Worth for saurus
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: three new words for lying.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: If you're a liar, you're not a liar, you're a knucklehead.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: And you didn't lie, you misspoke, that's it.
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: And you just got carried away with the rhetoric, is
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: what he did there. Are two memes that I found
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: on the web today which I found interesting. One meme
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: was describing Vance's displaying blazing intelligence, and.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: I thought that nailed what he did.
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: What he is is very well prepared, He's good at
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: debating and that kind of thing. But the man is
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: super smart. He's got to brain the size of a planet.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: That was obviously. The other meme was this.
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: Meme that said Barack Obama wanted a vice president more
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: stupid than him, so he chose Joe Biden. Joe Biden
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: wanted a vice president more stupid than him, so he
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: chose Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris wanted a vice presidential hand
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: that more stupid than her, so she chose Tim Waltz.
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: Now I saw that movement, I thought that's really nice
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: and it sums up with.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: It?
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: Does?
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: I have to say, though, as bad And I said
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: this earlier when I was hosting Charry of It as Banners.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Waltz was in that he was nervous and Advance kept
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: landing very easy attacks on him. I couldn't help watching
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: that debate and thinking, imagine if these two were the
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: presidential candidates instead of Trump and Harris, Because that debate
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: focused on policy. There was none of this personality clash.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: It was all about policy, and it felt to me like,
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: you know, American politics for a small moment, was going
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: back to where it should be, which is we're actually
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: talking about the issues in front of us here instead
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: of well, you know, Orange man bad and Carmala's mentally
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: not all there and whatever. They actually got down to
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: brass tacks, which would have been so good to see
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: in the previous debates, but you just didn't get it.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: It felt really civil.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: It did, and it was the moderators had a far
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: easier time with this one than they did with Trump
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: and Kamala's. And it's so simple for Americans to just go,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: which one of these guys would I want in the
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: situation room at the White House next time a disaster's unfolding.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Do you really want that bumbling fall of a Tim
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Waltz sitting there. I don't even know what he'd be
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: doing with himself, but he certainly wouldn't be calling any shots.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: Can I offer a thought on this?
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: People keep saying we won't make any difference, mon't have
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: an impact. I actually think it might. The reason is,
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: as I said last night, he vancied to show himself
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: as presidential forty years old. But if something happened to Trump,
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: he could step behind the resolute desk and he could
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: do the job. And when you saw that in that debate,
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: you thought he's presidential. If he's behind the resolute desk.
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: I'm not going to be worried. What that will do
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: is it won't change people's minds, But I think it
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: might get people out to vote. Those people who thought, well,
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: we quite like Trump to win. We think he's okay,
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: now think this is a great team. And because voting
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: is optional in America, you don't have to vote, it
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: motivates them to leave the House and actually go to vote.
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: So I think by motivating the people who are on
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: site to really vote, not just think about it, it
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: actually might make a difference.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Well hopefully it will also make a difference in the regime.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Low info bot.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Means the three media in America who has been paying
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: out on Vance NonStop since Trump named him as his
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: VP pick.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Check this out.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: More than seventy percent of Washington.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Post's coverage of JD.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Vance has been negative, just one percent is positive. The
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: article goes on to say from August sixth to September thirty,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: a whopping seventy one percent of the post's content was negative.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: According to its online search results, just one point four
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: percent was positive, while roughly twenty eight percent was neutral.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: The search results included news reports, opinion pieces, political cartoons, videos,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: and podcast links spanning from when his Democratic rival, Minnesota
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Governor Tim Waltz was tapped by Vice President Kamanala Harris
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: as her running mate. Negative results include unflattering reports about
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: the candidate. They have been absolutely scathing advance since day one.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Anyone who was going to be Trump's pick was of
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: course going to be raked over the calls in every
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: direction possible by the regime media. I'm wondering what we're
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: going to see now after such a blatant display of
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: whose superior intellectually, countenance wise ticked all the boxes while
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Waltz was all over the place. This is what we
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: saw after the Trump Kamala debate, only they still opted
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: with Kamala. Trump gave them a few good reasons to
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: do so this one. There's no reasons to now wax
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: lyrical about how incredible a VP Tim Waltz would make.
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: Yep, can I I've been trying to work through this
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: because I think I struggling with this. They publish in Washington.
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: Washington is a public service town. That means it's left wing.
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: They vote for left wing governments because left wing governments
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: employ more public servants. Canberra is the same. It's desperately
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: left wing, always will be out of step with the
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: rest of Australia because they want to vote for governments
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: will employ more public servants. So that's where the population
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: of Washington is. And these people have to sell newspapers
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: and that's who There is another newspaper and it's more
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: right wing and it sells fore your copies. So I'm
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: trying to work through if a paper takes a particular
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: editorial stance and so we're going to bash this person,
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: we're going to support this candidate. Can they do it
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: as long as they're upfront about it, saying this is
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: our position.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Well, you do generally know, I mean, most newspapers have
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: a particular editorial bent and you sort of know what
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: you're in for. But I think it was pretty broad
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: across the US media that when Vance was chosen, they
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: kind of went after him, certainly tried to attack him
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: on his previous comedy he'd made about Donald Trump, which
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: I think he's quite eloquently explained and well married lady,
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: but I mean unmarried for even say, who cares?
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: He's bloody right about that? I say that as an
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: unmarried man who owns cats.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: But anyway, but.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: You know, they went after him on that, and he
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: batted all that away and said, well, the man's allowed
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: to change his mind, and he has. It is extraordinary
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: though that the with how will he did today, they
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: will have to dig their heels in even further if
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: they want to hope that they can bring jd. Vance down,
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: because I don't think it's so much now about whether
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: jd Vance ends up as vice president, because that's much
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: more about Donald Trump.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Right, It's just a foregone conclusion.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: If Trump is elected, will of course Jade Vance is
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: going to be the vice president. What they'll really be
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: worried about, the Democrats is in twenty twenty eight, when
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: the Republicans are looking for a candidate JD. Vance, after
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: today's performance, you'd have to think would be a war
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: cup chance of getting it.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: And that's what they'll have to do.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: That's what the media will now have to start fighting against.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Because I reckon he would be unassailable if you put
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: him up against most people in the Democratic Party, and
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: even the lefty media in the US today was all
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: saying CNNMSNBC lost their mind over it.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: I mean they were all saying that that Vance.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: Won Advance as a South Australia to say Vance, but
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: his name is Vance.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: So I will accede to that.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: I will a seed to that.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: But they were all saying he won it. There's nowhere
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: for them to hide from it anywhere.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Indeed, well, staying in the States, Elon Musk is coming
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: to the rescue. After Hurricane Helene has ravaged six states
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: across the southeast of America. It has taken out a
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: lot of the communications. The cellular networks have been damaged,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: leaving thousands without a means of communicating with each other,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: which is why we understand over six hundred people are
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: still unaccounted for. They simply can't make contact. There's no
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: way to do it without a cellular network. So Elon
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Musk is coming to the rescue, sending thirty of his starlinks,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: which essentially use orbiting satellites instead of brown based networks,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: to give these people broadband connection so that they can
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: get in touch with their loved ones, let them know
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: they're okay, let them know where they are if they
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: need help, how they can be contacted. Elon Musk has
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: tweeted since the Hurricane Helene disaster, SpaceX has sent as
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: many Starlink terminals as possible to help areas in need.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Earlier today, Donald Trump alerted me to additional people who
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: need Starlik internet in North Carolina. We are sending them
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: terminals right away. Now. The Biden administration is trying to
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: take credit for this, saying but this was their doing,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: and they're helping out those people, particularly in North Carolina,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: as soon as possible by these Stylink connections.
• 30:11
  Speaker 8: We're also very focused on restoring communications capabilities. FEMA, the FCC,
• 30:17
  Speaker 8: and private telecommunications providers are working together to help restore
• 30:22
  Speaker 8: temporary communications as quickly as possible by establishing temporary cell
• 30:27
  Speaker 8: sites and allowing for roaming where possible, where a resident
• 30:30
  Speaker 8: can connect to any network available, even if they aren't
• 30:33
  Speaker 8: subscribed to that network. Today, FEMA will install thirty Starlink
• 30:39
  Speaker 8: receivers in western North Carolina to provide immediate connectivity for
• 30:43
  Speaker 8: those in greatest need, but the.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Good public on Elon Musk's platform, X were making it
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: very clear to everyone that had the FCC not scuppered
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: plans back in twenty twenty two for Elon to roll
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: out these Starlink connections, this would never have happened. Alex
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: tweets for your information, North Carolina, which has been hit
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: especially the hardest by this hurricane, would have nineteen thousand,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: five hundred and twenty two working Starlink kits available today
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: after Hurricane Helene. Had the FCC not revoked in bad
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: faith the grant that was awarded to SpaceX as the
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: winning bidder, Alex attached this graphic as proof that yes, indeed,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: the FCC had awarded this to Starlink and then changed
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: their minds. Now they were accused at the time of
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: doing this for political reasons. Elon Musk himself called it
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: quote contemptible political law.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Fare end quote.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: The FCC deny this, of course, but then they've recently
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: shown themselves to play favorites, ignoring the.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Law in their own rules.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: To let George Soros snaffle up two hundred and twenty
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: radio stations before this election wasn't really legal by any standards,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: but because he's the biggest Democrat donor. You're not going
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: to say no to George Soris when he comes knocking,
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: are UFCC.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: So they've got egg all over.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Their face now, especially given they denied this to an
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: area that is prone to natural disasters like what we've
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: just seen ravage these.
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: The FCC, for people who don't know, is the Federal
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: Communications Commission. The equivalent in Austrolia is called AKMA, Australian
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: Communications and Media Authority, and both of them are meant
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: to be independent, and that's their defense.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: We're an independent body.
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: We're set up by the government, we're funded by the government,
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: but we're an independent body, which is why you worry
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: about all these independent bodies and what they might do.
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: This independent body, somehow or other favors someone who supports
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: the government and carefully knocks the stuffing out of someone
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: who doesn't support the government. And our AKMA, which is
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: also independent, will end up running the misinformation laws.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: If they get them through the parliament.
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: So that's the really good thing about these independent government authorities.
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: They don't listen to the government at all. They just
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: act independently, don't they All the time?
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: You're looking a bit suspicious.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: They are.
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: You're looking spectacle. You might think that's not true, when
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: you might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: I wonder why that would be kel.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, it was eight hundred and eighty six million
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: dollars in subsidies that was knocked back in the end
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: by the FCC that would have allowed them to get
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: high speed broadband into rural areas where they otherwise wouldn't
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: have it. And the reasoning that the FCC used to
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: knock it back is that they had doubts that Starlink
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: could supply fast enough speed with supply constraints. Okay, so
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: why you going to them now and tanks startling We need.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: To we need we need to get the Internet in there.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, you could have done it back in twenty
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: twenty two if you hadn't knocked them back for the
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: funding that you told them you could give them because
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: you didn't think it was up to scratch. But when
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: you finally needed them, it was up to scratch, wasn't it.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: That has this for a funny one. Just sticking to
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: the US for a moment, they've got massive port strikes
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: that have just started over there.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: The dock workers are.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Going off chops because they want seventy seven percent pay
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: rise over six years. Now, that is an extraordinary amount
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: of money to ask for. But the ila that is
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: their union, the long shawmen, are walking off the job
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: all over the coast of the US asking for this money. Now,
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: of course that means that anything that comes in and
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: out of the US on a boat is essentially stopped. Cars, fridges, televisions,
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: on and on it goes, and the union is completely
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: unapologetic for it. Now, I don't agree with their this blog,
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: says the union leader. But I'll tell you what he
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: is in to tidy.
• 35:05
  Speaker 9: These people today don't know what the shrike is. Right
• 35:09
  Speaker 9: when my men hit the streets from Maine to Texas,
• 35:12
  Speaker 9: every single port or locked down, you know what's gonna happen.
• 35:17
  Speaker 9: I'll tell you. First week be all over the news,
• 35:23
  Speaker 9: every nine boom boom. The second week, guys who sell
• 35:27
  Speaker 9: costs can't sell costs because the cars ain't coming in
• 35:29
  Speaker 9: off the ships. They get laid off. Third week, malls
• 35:35
  Speaker 9: are closing down. They can't get the goods from China,
• 35:38
  Speaker 9: they can't sell clothes, they can't do this. Everything in
• 35:42
  Speaker 9: the United States comes.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: On a ship.
• 35:44
  Speaker 9: They go out of business. Construction workers get laid off
• 35:48
  Speaker 9: because the materials aren't coming in, the steel's not coming in,
• 35:53
  Speaker 9: the lumber's not coming in.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: They lose their job.
• 35:56
  Speaker 9: Everybody's hating the long showman now because now they realize
• 36:01
  Speaker 9: how important our jobs are in today's world.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: I'll cripple you.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: I will cripple you.
• 36:07
  Speaker 9: And you have no idea what that means.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: A let's talk, I want my money or I'm going
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: to cripple you. I mean, how good is that?
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Now?
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: The interesting thing, Kell is that Biden could.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Actually force the dock workers to go back to work.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: He has already correct.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: He can invoke what they call a cooling off period,
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: which is essentially an eighty day period where they're forced
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: to go back to the table and negotiate again.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: He said he won't do it because he's.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: Going to respect their right to negotiate it themselves.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: And the Teensters, which is another massive union in the US.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: They've got one point three million supporters and they've actually
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: been supporting Donald Trump in the federal election over there.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: But they have said, quote that Biden should stay the f.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Out of this fight.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we've got the CFMU was a
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: bit bullish here. They don't bugger around over in the US.
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: And the strange thing is these people have been since
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: about nineteen thirty six, since the time of FDR. These
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: people have actually been in bed with the Democrats. So
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: I've got no idea what they think they're doing politically.
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: Do they not like Karmela or don't they care anymore?
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: I just find that the politics of what they're doing,
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: I mean, I understand the economics of it. They're just
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: being bullies and knocking people around until they make a
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: lot of money, But I don't understand the policy crop.
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: It's quite weird for people who are supposed to be
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: on side with the Democrats to be behaving like this.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: It'll be so interesting to see how this plays out,
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: because overnight billions of dollars in trade have been brought
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: to a screeching Holt. He's not wrong in saying they
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: may just be dog workers, but they've got a hell
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: of a lot of power. They've knocked back a fifty
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: percent pay rise over the course of six years, they're
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: holding out for their seventy seven and it doesn't look
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: like that guy's going to budge anytime soon.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: I wonder how it will go when I ask my
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: bosses for a We'll talk about that one after the
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: pro And.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: That's the last you saw of Calee.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: If it's the last you see, I've just been told
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: in my ear it's not happening.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: If it's the last you see of.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Me, well, at least you got two hours of me Tonight.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: After the break, we'll get into the papers, including the
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: curious story of a police commissioner and her Gin bottle.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: You might remember this from a couple of months ago.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: We've got an update all that more coming up. Let's
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: get into tomorrow's papers, starting Liz with The Daily Telegraph.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: The Daily Telegraph to Everyone's least favorite police commissioner, and
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: by everyone's, I mean me Gin bombshell emails cast doubt
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: on top cops story tangled Web the splash reads Police
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Commissioner Karen Webb's office told a distillery she wanted dozens
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: of bottles of its blue labeled Gin in time to
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: give out as Christmas gifts, casting doubt on her claim
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: she only knew the booze was brought from her friend's
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: company after it was purchase. The Daily Telegraph can also
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: reveal the full list of people she gave the gin two. Now,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: first this was a story because the question was it
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: is it really appropriate for a police commissioner to be
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: handing out hard liquor for Christmas.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Now it's another story because it.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Turns out she was just upping up the sales of
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: a friend's company.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: Well, see, I don't mind them handing out the bottle
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: of gin to foreign dignitaries or whatever. I couldn't particularly
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: give a stuff. It was called commissioner's gin. The previous
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: police commissioner had done it from.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: The same mob with wine, but.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: The difference was that this time she is actually mates
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: with the people who owned the distillery slash winery, and
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: she had maintained when all of this originally came to
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: light that she wasn't involved in the purchasing process, that
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: it was done by someone else in her office. She
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: only became aware of it afterwards.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Nothing to see here.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: Clearly, the emails that the Telegraph has obtained show that
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: she basically instructed them to go away and do it on.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: The people who was given a bottle of gin was
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Alan Joyce, so I'm sure he's been tucking into that
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: since he left Quantus. But The bit that amused me
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: the most was that there was an email sent by
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: another police employee to miss Webb's chief of staff on
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: December fourteenth, twenty twenty two, that said, although the purchase
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: above might have progressed in the past, when the question
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: is asked, Sorry, the question I asked myself is will
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: I be comfortable if this purchase was released.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: To the media. The employee said, well, it ended up
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: being released to the.
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: Media, and a good deal of discomfort followed. I'm a
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: bit impressed at all of these people of G and
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: T people, which which strikes me as being very raffles
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: hotel in colonial Singapore.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: That's anyway, have a sling while you're there too.
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: Indeed, in queens Land, of course they have an election
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: on and the is Roman Electric Commission, as always is
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: running it and they're saying that they in fact have
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: no powers to control dishonest or misrepresenting material is in
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: the Courier mail. So take a look at tomorrow's Courier mail.
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: The story tells us that the Electoral Commission has conceded
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: it's powerless to stop a scare campaign in ten electorates
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: being run by powerful union boss Gary Bullock that falsely
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: claim public hospitals will be sold off by an LNP government.
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: Now the LMP is not going to sell off hospital,
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: so it's a false claim. The thing that surprised me
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: maybe you took an explainer to me. I'm surprised the
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: Electoral Commission can't stop it. I know there's been electoral
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: material in the past that they've been able to stop
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: that they've been able to take off the streets, So
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: why are their hands tied in this case? I just thought,
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: if it's a completely false claim, how can they get
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: the Electoral Commission throw their hands up and say sorry,
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: can't any I.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Think they know is because if they start that labor
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: in Queensland won't.
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: Have any campaigns left.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: They've already claimed that Chris A. Fooley is going to
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: change all the abortion laws in Queensland. Now they've got
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: this metascare nonsense happening. What was the other one that
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: they were claiming? Skipping my mind right now. But these
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: guys have been shown quite a few times now in
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: the career mail to be just telling outright lies.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: In order to trump up polls.
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: At their desperation, the polls they know they're losing But.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: The funniest thing is right that we're continually been told
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: by politicians, particularly labor politicians at the moment, that we
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: must have laws to stop misinformations and misinformation. Well, I mean,
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: this is the very definition of misinformation and disinformation. And
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: although I am not generally in support of speech being
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: police stoor or controlled by government or its outfits, I
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: think it's entirely right in the middle of an election
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: campaign for the electoral Commission to have the ability to
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: stop the spreading of electoral material that is provably false,
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: because that then could influence the election, and that that
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: influences four years worth of policy that is implemented in
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: a state. How you can get away with that, I
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: don't know, because you know you're basically elected on false
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: pretenses if you get over the line.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: As far as I'm concerned, on.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: The basis of such blatant lies, let's stick in Coensland
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: and go to the Gold Coast bulletin where it says
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: the dogs of war city prepares to battle. Prepare for
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: battle to combat rising number of canine attacks. The Gold
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: Coast City Council is going to war on pet dog attacks.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: After almost two attacks a day, In twenty twenty three,
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: council is warning owners of a crackdown and plans hosting
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: free etiquette and behavior classes now that the acting Mayor,
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: Donnagates said that dog attacks on people and pets once she.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Wants it wiped out.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: There were seven hundred and six reported attacks last year,
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: which was fifty five more than they had the year before.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: There are so many breeds of doglis that are just
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: abundantly aggressive. We know they are aggressive, they are bread
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: to be aggressive, pit bulls, etc.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: Why people are still allowed to have them, Get them
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: off the streets.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: These can't all be pit bulls.
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: No, no, they won't all be pitbull There are other
• 44:19
  Speaker 6: breeds too, But the breeds which are dangerous and likely
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: to attack people, absolutely true, they know what they are.
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: Our little miniature poodle didn't attack anyone.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Right, not yet, not yet.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: But no.
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: There are breeds that it's safe to have as pets,
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: and there are breeds that's unsafe to have as pets.
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: And every time I raise this on talkback programs, I
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: get held down by people saying, oh no, no, no, no,
• 44:47
  Speaker 6: we can look after ours, we can train them properly,
• 44:49
  Speaker 6: perfectly Okay, no, it's not. There are breeds that should
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: be canceled. Do you agree wholeheartedly?
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: They tell you cat own you have so speak to them.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: Five cats don't go around nature taking and killing people
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: through the others.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: To a dog down to nur.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: They're not born criminal dogs.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: I'm sorrys. Pit bulls descend from.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: Bulls in the bulls bull terriers in the UK that
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: were bred for dog fight hit.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Bulls that are absolute land No, it's.
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: It's bred into them.
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: My late father in law used to run sheep dogs
• 45:30
  Speaker 6: and I said, how do you train them? You see,
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: you don't train them. They get to a certain age
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: and they just take to it. It's in their genes.
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: So the behavior of dogs is in their genes. Can
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: I just say about cats? Little dogs are terrified of cats.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Well there you go.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: At least I've got one up on the little dogs
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: very quickly before we go to break the Australia you have.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: The Australian biggest native title in turmoil tell us more.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: The nation's biggest native title deal, called Australia's First Treaty,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: is in turmoil as the land count that struck the
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: agreement reels from explosive revelations that it secretly access the
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: emails of usurping aboriginal organizations established to take charge of
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: the one point three billion settlement.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: The story goes on.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: To say that this is basically a power struggle with
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: six new regional Aboriginal corporations set up to realize the
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: biggest and most comprehensive Indigenous settlement in Australian history. But
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: it looks like a little bit of a civil war
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: is breaking out amongst those groups.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: So now, why wouldn't you when there's so much money involved?
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: As they say, all power corrupts, absolute, power corrupts absolutely.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: After the break, we're going to get into the dictionary.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: We've got the word smith Kel Richards with us here.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: He's going to tell us the new words that you
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: are officially.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Allowed to use. Don't go away now, no doubt.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: You religiously watch Words with Kel on Kredline every week
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: on a Wednesday. And of course we've got kel on
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: a Wednesday here again on the late debate, so we thought, hell,
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: why don't we do words with Kell again? The Merriam
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: Webster Dictionary in the US has added a whole bunch
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: of new words. You've picked out some of your favorites.
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: They've added two hundred the dictionaries. Dictionaries don't tell you
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: what the language should be. They record what the language is.
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: So they're constantly collecting what they call citations, and they
• 47:27
  Speaker 6: put them into a bank of language, which is now
• 47:30
  Speaker 6: in a computer. The Colins Dictionary calls there is very
• 47:33
  Speaker 6: cleverly the Bank of English, which I think is very nice.
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: But they all do this kind of thing, and every
• 47:38
  Speaker 6: self and the updated, and they've got two hundred new
• 47:40
  Speaker 6: words and two hundred new definitions. Some of the ones
• 47:43
  Speaker 6: they put in the things that we already know and
• 47:44
  Speaker 6: are fairly familiar, but just weren't in the dictionary before.
• 47:47
  Speaker 6: So cash grab has gone in, Creepy Crawley has gone in,
• 47:50
  Speaker 6: and they're just there because this is the point at
• 47:52
  Speaker 6: which the dictionaries noticed them. By the way, can I
• 47:54
  Speaker 6: very quickly say people sometimes say to me, how can
• 47:56
  Speaker 6: I get a word into the dictionary? The answer is,
• 47:59
  Speaker 6: get thousands of people to use it, preferably in print,
• 48:03
  Speaker 6: then it will end up.
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 48:04
  Speaker 6: A couple of the new words that are in, for example,
• 48:07
  Speaker 6: touch grass. Now this reflects the society that we're in.
• 48:11
  Speaker 6: Touch grasses and put down the phone, get away from
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: the screen, get in touch with the reality. And I
• 48:17
  Speaker 6: thought this is brand new, and Liz said to me, no, no, no,
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: she uses this often.
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: So it's around, isn't it. I love it.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: This is something that you tell to people when they're
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: kind of wrapped up in their own world. Is a
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: way of being like, go outside, touch grass, breathe some
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: fresh air, eat a banana, Everything's going to be okay.
• 48:36
  Speaker 6: Or as we used to say, wake up, wake up,
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: and spell the coffee is what we used to say.
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: Another one is Nepo baby, and Nepo baby is the
• 48:43
  Speaker 6: son of a very famous people or family or one person,
• 48:47
  Speaker 6: and because of their fame and their family connections, they
• 48:50
  Speaker 6: get good jobs and they get starring roles. Comes from nepotism,
• 48:53
  Speaker 6: which comes from a Greek source word meaning nephews employing nephews.
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: So that's in oh and naga is he? So Donald
• 49:01
  Speaker 6: Trump has made it into the dictionary. I think it's
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: really it's a big deal when a word that you've
• 49:06
  Speaker 6: coined actually gets into the dictionary.
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: Trump has done it.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: He knows words, He does words better than anyone else,
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: and he is now in the dictory that's it from us,
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: tod I thank you so much for watching up next
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: to the reader Penny. He showed that