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Talks to Mike Honour about his choice of The Woman Who Fell to Earth · A Hamster With a Blunt Penknife - a Doctor Who Commentary podcast

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  Welcome back to hamster with run penknife.
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  The Doctor Who come a few podcast.
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  Thrilled is what I am to introduce my guest today.
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  It's my Connor. Say hello Mike.
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  Oh, it is an honor to have you here today.
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  Like that's so obvious. A joke, isn't it?
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  Well, I've never heard it before laughter.
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  Yeah, Like, before we start before we even talk about the
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  episode that we're going to talk about, would you do me a massive
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  favour, please and talk about your YouTube channel, which I
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  have discovered very recently and gobbled up much content.
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  Yeah, sure. So it's called bookish money
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  like to combine on that. And basically, I film videos
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  about the books that I read, lots of them are Doctor, Who
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  lots of the month. I Center is to review.
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  I don't make videos very often at the moment, but I was
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  vlogging. I was baking.
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  I was watching TV and talking about what I've been watching.
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  It was quite a hectic, like me. And basically, it was it was, it
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  was what I like on a I mean I was like my God, this guy like
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  talked about everything. There was one video where you
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  are, you are moving house and I was having a tour of your new
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  house and then I was when I was seeing you talk about a Nigella
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  Lawson recipe and then you were talking about some fantastic
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  book. Like it's quite very it was me
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  and I think it was it was a my kind of favorite Outlet at that
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  time. Like I said I'm not making them
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  at the minute but I do plan 1 Way to go back.
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  There was planning. Always a part two to that house
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  video to give you a tour of it as it's finished.
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  But I forgot how long it takes to actually finish things in a
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  house. Some get put things where you
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  want the land, you're moving your furniture, doesn't fit in
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  that room anymore. So you need new furniture, it
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  just takes time. So the plan is to eventually get
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  back and make some more videos, but at the moment, my kind of
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  platform of choices Instagram. So they're actually not that.
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  I'm obsessed. And they've all feel like the
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  emphasis That's kind of where it's at.
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  And you can do a lot with an edit button.
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  So like thing, will you give me a tutorial that because as the
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  list has no on this podcast there's very little editing.
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  A what there is is terrible that has its strong too.
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  Because I would love to, I don't think the world is ready for an
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  edited and filtered video of me. I'm not perfect, I'll tell you
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  are actually doing this and you'll see this as we go in
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  there is a lot of skill to rambling on for an hour without
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  Doubt it because you can't edit on a commentary.
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  It's all. And if it's someone's listening
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  to this, you can't take anything out because then you'll be out
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  of time with what they're watching.
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  Absolutely. That's the skill of its own.
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  But then, when you put the luxury of any, so you can be
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  like, on isil again, I'll stop, and I'll do it again.
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  Well, I'll get over to you now because you look terrific on
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  your videos, but you actually look terrific in person as well.
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  So there's no fillers going on there.
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  You know what, I have had a good haircut recent.
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  Oh no, Jesus. Yeah.
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  I was starting to look like the Abominable Snowman from the
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  Patrick troughton story. It was horrendous.
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  I ain't a hundred a being allegedly, found my other half
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  got very good with the Clippers and giving me a little homely
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  face. Fair play to him but we're not
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  here to talk about Twitter or Instagram or YouTube.
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  Today, we are here to talk about a what I think is a phenomenal
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  introductory episode for a doctor.
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  Why don't you tell us what we're going to be watching?
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  Going to watch the woman who fell to Earth?
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  Jogi number one, but I'm going to ask you a question now that
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  may gain or lose us listeners. Where did you forward the Jodie?
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  Whittaker era? Am I allowed to swear?
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  Of course, in fact, I encourage it.
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  Okay. I fucking love it.
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  I really do. And I completely like I said, I
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  completely understand that it is not perfect, but you tell me
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  what season of Doctor Who is Okay, hang on there.
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  You just write a goal it down there.
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  These are one. Is there a perfect season?
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  Probably know. I see because, my favorite
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  series is series for the new series and that that still
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  hangs, the doctor's daughter in there.
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  So, exactly. And I mean, that is a close to
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  perfect season. That is a very, very good
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  season. And he did that.
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  Just such an impressive and epic thing at the end where broad all
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  those characters together that crossover event, that didn't
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  exist. On telly.
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  It's The Buffy crossover. Leandra's world is it's
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  basically like a Avengers endgame, Ultimate Alliance early
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  years ahead. We always wanted.
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  I mean, if we thought that having Daleks and Cybermen
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  fighting each other was thing we've seen ever, it wasn't
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  totally accepted since he was 4. I love series for children.
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  It's not perfect season, skipping forward.
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  Then to Jody's time, Just name me.
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  Two strengths of this era. Don't be particular update.
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  Thank you. Yeah.
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  Okay, I'm sorry but she has she's such a good doctor.
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  She's such a good doctor and she is she's beautiful.
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  And she's such a good actress. I mean I'm almost I don't want
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  to gush because I feel like there's always, you know, she's
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  fantastic. She isn't being given everything
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  that David Tennant was given to do or even keep the deposit was
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  given to do. But you know what, I think, I
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  think that's a deliberate. Creative choice, that they save
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  and come away from that whole. Like you look at Rusty dates
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  time. You look at Steven Moffat style
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  and a lot of the stories are about the doctor that they are.
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  The doctor, the night of the doctor, the time of the doctor
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  that you know, where as here the doctors gone back to basically
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  being elevated, it's certainly a series of level.
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  Maybe instead of 12, it's more about the Timeless child and the
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  doctor again, and they've gone back in that direction.
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  Ashley because, you know, I'm seeing I think that's probably
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  quite evident in their relationships as well and they
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  all got together near a group of friends, and I think that's
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  being promoted as, probably something she wanted, you know,
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  as we've probably bled into the character and his blade into her
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  as well. I love her, I could watch her.
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  Be the doctor for several more seasons.
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  I enjoy to last season, I'm not ready for An assistant to be
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  last one. I'm not there.
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  I think with this is, this is, this is how I know that.
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  I love Jodie and she's up there. One of my favorite doctors, I
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  realize that I love Jodie Whittaker as the doctor, whilst
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  I'm watching her. Be the doctor.
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  Okay? Hey, because I love David
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  Tennant. Was watching him being doctor.
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  I didn't love Matt. What he that's on, I've grown to
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  love him, always see what you're saying.
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  Was, it was live on TV, we don't peek.
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  I didn't I didn't hate him just like him.
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  He was fine. I just didn't love him but like
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  I was like I love him less and less the more I watch you.
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  Unfortunately, I've got the other way but there we go.
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  Back to be fair. I think Matt Smith, he's
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  fantastic in the crown away from Doctor Who
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  Watched and re-watched, and I just really loved him as a
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  doctor but whilst watching Josie, I immediately was like,
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  yeah, I love her. The challenge is, you know, what
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  you mentioned earlier about Twitter and toxicity and I think
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  there is a lot of talk, there's a lot of anger out there at the
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  moment. They got their shit things
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  happening in the world and there's a lot of reaction to it.
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  And I really love the fact that especially in series 11, Jodie
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  Whittaker is like a ray of freaking Sunshine, Has Smiled
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  beams out of my screen. He's off on an adventure with
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  her friends. Like I wouldn't want every
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  doctors to be like this. This kind of like KFI, you know,
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  embracing science, all the wonderful things of the universe
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  that bit. At the end of it, it takes you
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  away where she kisses to that frog.
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  Oh my God, I couldn't love her more in that moment.
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  Absolutely. And I don't really understand
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  the jogi haters, I don't get it. Well, that's because then they
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  don't enjoy life. Enjoy life.
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  Fun current. All nice thing is they don't
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  like the fact that the doctors really happy they want.
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  They basically wanted more man. Pain.
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  Yeah. Which has its place I get it.
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  But they are slowly making her have that kind of slightly
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  darker Edge and dealing with some type of material which
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  probably brings me on to my second point there.
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  My second straight loss of the Joe Veera, which I think is the,
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  I'm going to say a strength and that is the blowing up of the
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  cannon. I'm going to put it out there.
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  Okay. Thanks.
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  I love you. Yeah, but if it comes with the
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  secrets, the twists, the stuff we don't know about ever seeing
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  on screen. I think the actual enjoyment of
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  watching a new doctor be revealed and not realizing what
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  was happening. I mean, that there are there are
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  several episodes in the new era that I have had to go back and
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  re-watch immediately like a promising life but the next day
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  I have to put it on. Watch it again.
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  The woman who fell to Earth was one The Fugitive of the juju
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  doing was another I have to watch it straight away.
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  I was like oh Jack's back. That's called the June's back,
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  but that's cool. What the fuck just happened if
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  the ground, what? Yeah, that's, that's sequence.
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  That's extraordinary. I mean, it's gold.
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  Yeah. I mean, I love the master.
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  Yeah. Fantastic as well as you know
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  what he's done, after what if we had wanted to?
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  Ten seasons of basically explaining Who Doctor Who is and
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  dealing with his emotions and looking into his past and blah
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  blah, blah Chuckles come along and blown a hole in all of that.
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  And he's put the who back in Doctor Who because we do really
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  know who the doctor is anymore. I don't think we should just, I
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  mean I feel like we watching season 12 was the first time in
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  a long time being like I don't know what's going on but not in
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  a complicated plot way. You know, I'm really intrigued.
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  Where are they going now? I think that is really exciting
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  and you have to make, keep making it exciting, otherwise
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  it's going to go stay on this, going to die that and we don't
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  worry about it. They do it time.
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  And again as you Explore More of classic who they blow holes in
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  continuity all the time, just to get the story moving along and
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  going in a different direction. First, doctor was never planning
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  to regenerate. That wasn't part of what we do
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  the same Lord until the actor had to step down and then you
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  had the toy laws introduced. And they were like gods and then
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  skip forward to the Deadly Assassin and they're just
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  basically like you know, American politics politicians,
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  you know that changed it happens all the time and you have to
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  just write it I a completely happy to ride.
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  Jodie Whittaker Sera. I hear.
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  It's a good ride. Yeah, on that note.
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  Should we skip into the woman who fell to Earth?
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  Because you'll be pleased to know.
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  This is already the longest in Road I've ever done before an
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  episode. Oh no, I'm telling a lie.
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  Mark Rowley zarcero to from to wha show that went on that.
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  Maybe about 25 minutes before we started the episode, but there
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  we go. Uncle, do you know?
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  They did the keys of marinus of course, every person's turn to
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  watch her a lot. And I understand their love for
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  that episode, but I haven't listened to your podcast with
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  them yet. So I feel like I need to to
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  watch the episode first and then afterwards I have not done that
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  yet. It's a huge loving.
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  Like the case of ours gets ripped apart by a lot of fans.
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  It's a massive love in place with some, like massive
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  diversions about Mark being under a duty for like, an entire
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  episode and I know. Yeah, bring it on.
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  Okay. Well, get your finger poised on
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  the bottom. We're going in.
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  Okay. 54 Three, two one. Let's go.
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  Some no titles. Well, I I think when they come,
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  they're amazing. I really like the do.
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  These holes and the music. Yeah, I'm not sure.
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  What is this? The only story ever?
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  So don't have titles. I think it is a couple.
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  Does that not the one about sleep dust in season 9?
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  Which I found the name of Justin have Cycles.
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  There's a reason you can't remember the labor that I just I
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  feel like I feel like I'm happy waiting for the next episode to
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  see that the interior of the TARDIS.
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  I feel like that's a really lovely kind of builds up to get
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  to. I think we would I would have
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  enjoyed see this. That's all I'll say yeah as long
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  as it's not something I missed. So now we had a little sweet,
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  little tiny little chat off like about Ryan.
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  I know you say you said you had a few issues with Ryan.
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  See them, this is the thing I've this episode, I think is really,
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  really good. I think all the characters and
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  specifically the companions of a function.
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  Yes. And it's really important, I
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  think for the Companions and all who stories to have a function
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  and not just be an audience for doctor and orders what was
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  happening. And I think that's one of the
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  main issues they have in general of see series 11 when there's
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  his three companions. You know, there's a lot of
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  people and then the writers bring in a lot of additional
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  characters, there's so much going on.
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  I think they sometimes get a bit lost.
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  I mean, who I Graham in, in Revolution of the Daleks it is
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  get it. Well, I mean, you get that
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  wonderful moment where Ryan's dad comes to the door and inhale
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  notes. Are you talking about?
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  Yeah, that's that. That was a mistake.
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  This is really good because they do all have a function and they
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  have a really their relationships come to live.
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  The character comes through and I like Cryin ish because I just
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  feel like he's, I don't know, he's underused, but just what
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  does I just didn't fuck him. He is a very handsome, man is
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  beautiful. If I was King James in the,
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  which finders are not be taking no, for an answer.
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  That's so funny, the target of that thoroughly enjoying it, who
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  really, really enjoying it. I Of the expand on the episodes,
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  things, penumbral umbrella. When it comes to Ryan, right?
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  So I lost my mom a couple of years ago and obviously, he
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  loses his mother figure in this. And I have a terrible
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  relationship with my dad, who's a very disappointing man, and he
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  has a terrible. And so a lot of what he goes
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  through and serious 11, I can really relate to promoting with
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  him. I mean, yeah, this is fantastic.
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  I think that he's got a really, like I said, Godfrey the
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  function in this and I really like his ark.
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  In this his story and, you know, it was his grace and his
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  relationship with graham is what we're all watching, really,
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  isn't it? There's just almost like two
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  different relationships. Do you think there's a
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  deliberate attempt to pull back from like the impossible girl
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  and the whole sort of Amy and her childhood hero?
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  Like there's a lot of sort of Mythology and science fiction
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  twist with the mafia Vegas here. They're just normal people.
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  Are they, they're just regular people.
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  They are regular people and they get swept along into this man's
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  mad episode. I love this blue pod thing in
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  the woods. I think that looks stunning.
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  It looks very classic who that you know but I just feel like
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  this more than any other episode before this really really feels
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  like Watching Doctor, Who here absolutely.
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  Yes, non-fan. This could be the beginning of
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  your journey. As you think there's four places
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  you know Rose I think you can start watching their Smith and
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  Jones. I think you could start watching
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  their the 11th Hour definitely and then here.
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  Hi. Alone.
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  I was just passed the bechdel test.
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  It's three women talking. Not about a man.
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  Now I've gone on about this till I'm blue in the face, but the
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  mafia era did not score well with the bell tower test and I
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  feel like Chippendales got an unfair advantage in though.
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  He's got a female doctor and then more fun.
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  You know, he is the king of the sexual innuendo.
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  He's very This is what he likes us, this where you came from,
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  you know, I think that should be deductible bit the show's less
• 19:02
  about sort of gender here and I'm pleased because I'm sick of
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  the conversation, you know. Oh you man.
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  Oh you woman you know, that happened quite a lot.
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  It's interesting though, isn't it?
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  Because I'm surprised they didn't go down the romance route
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  with yeas and grow with the as of right?
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  Yes, yes, I think in this step so that's what you expect to
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  happen. Isn't it?
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  Specially for this? Like, we meeting of them.
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  But I'm really glad I didn't play too.
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  As well, somebody didn't. It's like, it's like saying that
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  a man, and a woman, actually, can be very good friends, you
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  know? That's no excuse.
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  But I actually could feel that they were trying to give her
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  much more to do in serious about when you got to.
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  Can you hear me where we explored her past?
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  I think they're going to do. With eyes serious, do saying
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  that she had like mental health issues and was potentially
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  suicidal when the past is what interesting?
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  And that's a fantastic area of depth who character, but to be
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  fair to the actors and they probably know that already about
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  her here but they don't show it until the second half of season
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  six the next season. Okay, it's great to she's
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  introduces a copper. Isn't she?
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  And in that episode they then show you why she was inspired to
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  be accomplished by meeting that woman.
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  Fantastic. But look how long to get there.
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  I don't know how long it took to are.
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  There was a big gap between season 11 and 12 and Graham get.
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  I feel like you're sucked into their family Dynamic and you
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  understand it? And it's very strong.
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  Actually, Graham was a big surprise to me in this in the
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  season. I think, I don't think we
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  expected much did we? And I don't know what he
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  basically God, and its really, really nice because in the past,
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  I've found that a lot of the really emotional material has
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  been handed to the female actors in this season.
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  Not really the doctor that gets those moments.
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  It's Ryan and Graham. So you've got two men to two
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  straight men who are one who's terrible, his feelings and
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  another one, Graham who's quite good at expressing himself.
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  I think those moments are lovely.
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  They are not me. And I just love is what, how
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  long it takes for us to see the doctor?
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  I think this was a really brief choice, and it was the right
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  choice and keep us wanting to See her where she's falling from
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  the darkness, but hopefully that entrance where she just crashes
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  through the roof is amazing. Amazing to know when she was
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  revealed to be a doctor. I remember exactly where I was.
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  I remember talking to my mum because she was seeing all then
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  review the new doctor today and I was doing Wimbledon wasn't it.
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  That's right. Yeah and she's just mean as you
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  think they can, they're cast a woman and I said to them is the
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  BBC then ever going to cast a I was just like, it's never going
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  to happen. I'm never going to see it.
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  So when I did see it I was excited like I'm just home.
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  Why was it work? It was a Sunday was the I was at
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  work, maybe it's hiding. But I was a definitely work and
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  and the thing came through. I have just been.
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  Yes. Yes.
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  And the next day, right? I was putting out the papers at
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  work. I'm not kidding.
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  You. I took a photograph of still got
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  it. She was on the front cover of
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  every freaking newspaper. Amazing Doctor.
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  Who should be front page news? Now, from right reasons, can we
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  take a moment to talk about Sharon Clark?
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  Who is really, really good? She is and I'm pleased.
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  She gets to come back a couple of times.
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  Yes, I think what would have been really effective?
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  And I really have a piece of marketing as if they'd have
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  included her in the sort of press for companions, the
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  companions first season. And well interestingly when they
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  did the press release of the woman who fell to Earth, there
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  she is. Come to the doctor.
• 23:16
  She's in that photograph. There's a picture of all of them
• 23:18
  with her. Okay?
• 23:21
  Okay. Hey you said you wanted the
• 23:24
  title music. It just here there.
• 23:27
  Brother say that when that happened on first airing, I got
• 23:30
  complete Shivers, I was like oh there it is that that that that
• 23:34
  felt good to. We've never heard it as like
• 23:35
  incidental music before. Even say right this she never
• 23:39
  does anything. She literally just fell for a
• 23:40
  roof grabbed, an electric cable and just feel stuck it in that
• 23:44
  creature. Who says she doesn't do
• 23:46
  anything? Oh no, not my doctor people.
• 23:54
  Can I just say she looks huge? Rocks Capaldi's costume.
• 23:58
  She does she does. And I kind of wish I do.
• 24:02
  I don't mind her costume. Actually, I think he's a little
• 24:05
  tailored, but I don't mind it. But I do kind of wish we'd had a
• 24:08
  season of her wearing this because she just looks so good.
• 24:12
  She does a good. She does look good.
• 24:14
  I love her. I think she is.
• 24:16
  So inviting actually what this system does do well, and this
• 24:19
  episode as well. Is it really gives Jonesy?
• 24:22
  How's that? Dr. So much time.
• 24:25
  I think that was quite deliberate, as well.
• 24:27
  I think, obviously to the, perhaps this, like detriment of
• 24:29
  the companion, sometimes, or, but Jodi gets it, or just
• 24:33
  getting the word. She's getting the chicken at
• 24:36
  all. I can always see her like,
• 24:37
  feeling her way into the role as well.
• 24:40
  Yeah, like I love always loved the first episode with the
• 24:42
  doctor because they're not quite sure how they're going to play
• 24:46
  it. I don't think there's any nerves
• 24:50
  in her performance at all because she just comes in
• 24:53
  Charismatic and just great to watch.
• 24:56
  I have exciting. Was it to find out that she was
• 24:59
  going to the doctor? I mean.
• 25:00
  How how if it's hard when you're a long-standing doctor who fan
• 25:05
  to remain excited? This is the yeah, how they keep
• 25:08
  you excited? Yeah, I think for this episode
• 25:12
  to come on, I remember being genuinely excited like, no, no.
• 25:15
  I like my other half, couldn't speak what it was on.
• 25:18
  I was like, no way. You save everything until it's
• 25:20
  done. I want to be completely
• 25:22
  immersed. Just in this and I was like, I'm
• 25:25
  not working the late shift that night.
• 25:26
  I'm coming home to watch it live is not happening, so exciting.
• 25:30
  This was actually only was, it was powerful.
• 25:34
  So I've been one of our for two and a half years now and when we
• 25:37
  first started going out, he binged watched because he knew
• 25:40
  how obsessed I was with the show.
• 25:42
  He business Watch series 1 to 11 in like two months, like he flew
• 25:47
  through it and he liked science fiction.
• 25:49
  So he he just kind of passing dogs.
• 25:55
  And when he got to joke because of the reactions of this season,
• 25:59
  but I've how is he going to? He freaking loved her.
• 26:03
  Oh, good, I think gobbled up series elevens like he really
• 26:07
  enjoyed it. Yeah.
• 26:10
  I love this. I love how to confrontational
• 26:14
  yaz's. I like that element 0 character.
• 26:16
  You know, she got a slight Edge and I enjoy that badge with
• 26:19
  heart. I think that's really important.
• 26:22
  The doctors trying to provoke them to life.
• 26:23
  Think about the situation as well as if she's not doing all
• 26:26
  the work for them. No, no.
• 26:30
  I know I keep saying this, but it was genuinely standing there
• 26:33
  on a train. It's lit.
• 27:20
  I just, there's something about a doctor performance, that makes
• 27:27
  you just want to watch them when they're on the screen and Jody
• 27:29
  has that. Like, not all of them have that.
• 27:32
  I think Jon Pertwee has that. I'm always drawn to him.
• 27:36
  I think David Tennant has that. I'm always drawn to him when
• 27:39
  he's on the screen to see what crazy she is up to Capaldi.
• 27:44
  Actually, do you know can blend into the background, but But
• 27:48
  wait, wait, but he will always pull focus in a brilliant way.
• 27:52
  Oh he does. I do know what I mean.
• 27:54
  You and I have chatted before about how I mean, see this is.
• 27:58
  This is where I am, okay, topology and Whitaker and
• 28:01
  jostling for first place of my favorite doctors right now and I
• 28:06
  know that's quite a controversial opinion.
• 28:08
  Oh, well, I'm so unpredictable. I Go Tellin one Whitaker to
• 28:13
  Capaldi, three. So, but even having Whitaker it
• 28:16
  to is quite controversial. No, true sense.
• 28:20
  I mean, I know, I can't, I mean, I recently finished a real
• 28:24
  options because to Pakistani, right?
• 28:26
  Just just randomly was watching it again and then we should be
• 28:28
  enjoying myself and when he is regenerating in parting of the
• 28:32
  ways, I get really sad because I really liked him.
• 28:35
  I thought it was really good and his era was was, was just what
• 28:39
  introduced me to who. And then, of course, didn't
• 28:44
  didn't give it a come and serve steal, the shiny bit does me.
• 28:47
  He does. This kind of eclipse Echoes
• 28:49
  turning understand why. And I was thinking of the day,
• 28:52
  how, how amazing would have been to have seen Eccleston doing
• 28:57
  David Tennant's Arc, because there's incubator, he would have
• 29:01
  been in for that story. The crisper axle is an
• 29:05
  extraordinary actor and he would have done something completely
• 29:08
  different and amazing with it. Yeah, I would be really
• 29:12
  interesting. I find, I mean, okay, so
• 29:15
  controversial opinion time Um, I love a first doctor story like a
• 29:21
  first episode for doctor. I think they're all really
• 29:24
  interesting to you, you're dying.
• 29:25
  See within the doctors went to do, I think I think I didn't
• 29:30
  think that's what you were going to say that.
• 29:32
  I for you. Going to say something else.
• 29:33
  I love it. I think this is a very big
• 29:35
  internet when you doctor. I think this is the
• 29:37
  controversial bit as well as part to my least favorite is the
• 29:41
  11th hour. That's why I thought you were
• 29:42
  gonna say. I think it's important.
• 30:41
  Since we are CD B, ra there has been quite a lack of Welsh
• 30:47
  accents voices. In Doctor Who there was a lot of
• 30:51
  it at the beginning, I even understand it was being filmed
• 30:54
  in Wheels, you know, he he is the showrunner.
• 30:56
  He's Welsh. I think that there's not enough
• 31:00
  Welsh accents, across talion, generally, I agree and it was so
• 31:05
  refreshing. In those first four years, it
• 31:08
  was so refreshing because Basically, the well, should we
• 31:10
  hear in doctor before? That is, you know, the green
• 31:13
  death would like all your right boil.
• 31:15
  And, you know, bollocks, exactly.
• 31:18
  I think that there's room for and I love seeing that and
• 31:21
  obviously highlighting things like torture words where we had
• 31:25
  satin Wheels, you know, full, well, she is Supporting Cast and
• 31:29
  that was, that was so refreshing and I just, I am, I am actually
• 31:35
  actually praying at. We do actually get a torch with
• 31:38
  me boobs. With that video and alone should
• 31:41
  be bc3 coming back to terrestrial TV.
• 31:43
  I feel like I feel like everyone wants it and I feel like there's
• 31:48
  certainly been a big buzz online about it.
• 31:50
  I think that have to be some tweaks.
• 31:52
  But yeah. Oh yeah, that's not coffee what
• 31:54
  it was but it's just content with Miracle day.
• 31:58
  Beautiful day, I didn't lie. I just re-watched it.
• 32:02
  I thoroughly enjoyed working. Quite sure about that enormous.
• 32:04
  Like death-defying vagina that was sucking everything in at the
• 32:08
  end but what a Grace description, I agree.
• 32:11
  But yeah, I yeah, it's odd. But But the story was fine.
• 32:16
  I feel like it was too long. Take us on a path towards.
• 32:19
  I think it would be a much more streamlined experience.
• 32:22
  You can really have some fun because they brought obviously
• 32:25
  Jack back into the Doctor Who in the series 12.
• 32:28
  And I've hearing Rumblings that he might be in 13th as well
• 32:32
  because he has been in England, dying his hair.
• 32:36
  So, yes, saying he needs a doctor.
• 32:39
  I think it'd make it absolutely. Like, have the two serious.
• 32:42
  Concurrent with a few sort of crossovers I hope because I feel
• 32:46
  like as well, if this is another thing, I think that yeah, as if
• 32:50
  this is going to be this is this is this is Jody's last season,
• 32:54
  right? We're pretty sure that John
• 32:55
  Bishop, isn't it? The one season?
• 32:57
  Yes, because we've got cha commitments to etcetera.
• 33:00
  I don't know whether you guys would stay past.
• 33:03
  No. I think, I think four years
• 33:05
  might be too long. Yeah.
• 33:07
  So I feel like, yeah, there's could slip to Torchwood very
• 33:11
  easily and bring the new audience of who Back onto your
• 33:16
  children on the side. You know I just want more Gwen
• 33:19
  Cooper. I just want Ben Cooper back on
• 33:20
  our screens all the time. You know what series wallet or
• 33:23
  should? I had a real issues with her
• 33:25
  where she was fucking knowing? I really shoes with that.
• 33:28
  But then from Series 2 onwards where she was just in love with
• 33:31
  her other half had the baby. I just yeah, she was terrific
• 33:35
  but then children of Earth. She is just a queen.
• 33:40
  A jumping-off. Ambulances were two guns.
• 33:42
  This is very the Christmas Eve. In here is that the doctor, the
• 33:47
  Regeneration energy and I do think there is a is a criticism
• 33:51
  but there is a comment that chibnall leans into a lot of our
• 33:55
  CD stuff. And I think that is true, the
• 33:58
  kind I think. Rusty Davis did relatable
• 34:00
  companions. I think chip will brings back
• 34:04
  like the family thing with you as his family worked and it
• 34:09
  works here as well. You know, that's right here.
• 34:12
  I don't think we see, we don't see enough of you as his family.
• 34:14
  I think they're really fun hundred percent they they needed
• 34:18
  to be a bit more you know we're getting Ryan's whole family kind
• 34:21
  of at all times. I think that we needed more of
• 34:24
  you as family. Oh my word.
• 34:27
  What the hell is coming out of that?
• 34:30
  I love it. So like a monster movie.
• 34:32
  It's amazing. Oh God.
• 34:34
  This this has one of my favorite like unintentionally funny by
• 34:38
  words. With that Kebab man is like, eat
• 34:41
  more salad. Fantastic.
• 34:45
  Look at this but the POV shot. That's incredible.
• 34:50
  As they spent a fortune on. There's something, I mean, I've
• 34:53
  heard some people say that. Oh, that's good about the chip
• 34:57
  away, right? Is the visuals that's bollocks
• 35:00
  bars. The visuals are stunning.
• 35:06
  It's hard to compete with a completely different TV
• 35:08
  landscape. Now, we're talking sort of Game
• 35:10
  of Thrones are where you've got a compete on that level.
• 35:13
  Now, you couldn't show David Tennant's Doctor Who was
• 35:16
  straight after an episode of Game of Thrones if it would look
• 35:21
  and it's not cheap. This is so fun.
• 35:24
  There's this whole interaction with the four of them where she
• 35:27
  takes the phone in a minute and deletes all the information on
• 35:31
  it, you don't need that. I'll tell you what why?
• 35:36
  We need better off of them. Sometimes I'm convinced of that.
• 35:42
  See this is good because they're introducing the DNA bomb.
• 35:46
  So, this is like a, check off DNA bomb.
• 35:49
  It's in them, but this is what she uses at the end to defeat.
• 35:54
  Tim sure. Yeah, pockets Oh, there's lots
• 36:01
  of lovely dialogue as well around her regenerating and
• 36:05
  being a new person and being reborn that people say all of
• 36:09
  cheapens dialogues really clunky.
• 36:11
  But there's a bit later on, which I'm going to say as she
• 36:14
  says it, which is really proud poetic, okay?
• 36:19
  Did you go? And she's kind of got quirky.
• 36:28
  I think they don't ask me naturally quirky, you know.
• 36:30
  Oh yeah. Yeah I agree.
• 36:32
  She's actually quite like, I mean, Matt Smith was super
• 36:35
  creepy and I think that she's got there was a lot of armor
• 36:42
  because I knew him. If I knew him in real life, I'd
• 36:45
  be like, oh God, is he coming to the party?
• 36:47
  I'm not going. Oh my God, here's temperature.
• 36:52
  If I can I just say this he is a fantastic than this episode's.
• 36:57
  I thought he was very very scary.
• 37:00
  I was like a predator. Yeah.
• 37:05
  And and and the whole idea of like the teeth in the face.
• 37:08
  That is hot. Yeah, actually it's Grim.
• 37:12
  The only thing I think is a bit disappointed.
• 37:13
  Tim sure, is that he's back in the finale, which is a pretty
• 37:18
  dreary episode. And so like the Arc of this
• 37:22
  season becomes well Tim Shaw just bookmarking both ends.
• 37:27
  I know, I'm not even be problem. I think that they should if we
• 37:29
  should ignore that absorbs and we should bring the stems of
• 37:32
  back in force and I mean, that would be quite gripping.
• 37:37
  I think. Plus, I mean, I said you before,
• 37:40
  I think that I think about resolution as the season finale
• 37:45
  of this season, as I just think that all I do.
• 37:49
  Hello, as I said to you like, it's absolutely that's where the
• 37:57
  season ends and that's a hell of an ending.
• 38:01
  I I like the idea as well. There Chris chibnall returns
• 38:08
  people, dying and staying dead. Now I think it's really sad the
• 38:13
  grace ties in this. I think she's a terrific
• 38:15
  character and I would have loved to have seen more her, but there
• 38:19
  is something Said about killing of somebody and you're a let you
• 38:23
  know it its life and it happens. Part of it is I think that you
• 38:28
  know she's really engaging in this.
• 38:29
  I actually loved her in this and I think that that is a massive
• 38:34
  Vault with the kind of not fat Yura.
• 38:37
  It is, it is I love a lot about it but I feel like klara's end
• 38:41
  was in the repeater even that was where she tightened but you
• 38:45
  know, when it got to that point when he got that point I was
• 38:47
  like, she'll be back. Well, I Knew by that point.
• 38:51
  I just think she's having said that I am going to contradict
• 38:55
  myself and I'm just really happy that bill pots did not stay
• 39:00
  well. Okay.
• 39:02
  Okay, there's something to be said about girl ports.
• 39:05
  Okay. So who was like groundbreaking
• 39:08
  in daughter who? Yeah.
• 39:10
  A an ethnic lesbian character who was just Adlai.
• 39:19
  Why the hell do they have to blow a hole in her?
• 39:23
  Because it was heartbreaking, is it horrible?
• 39:26
  It was horrible, though. He doesn't like torturing his
• 39:28
  companions. How interesting that the
• 39:31
  audience that like Russell T Davies wouldn't have done that
• 39:34
  to any companion because he would have been like going over.
• 39:36
  There are children watching. They love Rose, Tyler, they love
• 39:38
  Martha. They don't want to see you in
• 39:40
  the hole in the chassis mostly though, like I wouldn't have
• 39:42
  done that. because I think if I were a
• 40:22
  human being, So that's always had Adventures.
• 40:25
  I might get to a point where I say, okay to know what I'm done.
• 40:28
  Now, I want to go back to my one Roots.
• 40:30
  Whereas I don't know, I can't see myself.
• 40:33
  Flying around the university. Now an American Diner, I can't
• 40:37
  see myself, you know, having a relationship with a puddle or
• 40:40
  whatever happens with be or the ends of that, you know.
• 40:43
  Like like I quite like how its underplayed and it's more
• 40:48
  normal. It doesn't all have to be one
• 40:50
  big happy ending when epic leaving the Superhuman.
• 40:53
  I completely agree. They say, I've got my, I can't
• 40:55
  see myself, you know, having a relationship with a closer, the
• 40:57
  doctor, I taught you. Well, well, all right.
• 41:04
  Get him out the covered once a week.
• 41:06
  There we go. I will say though, that my only
• 41:13
  problem is my only problem with that is we did have the seeds
• 41:17
  Ryan wanting to leave throughout series 12.
• 41:19
  There was lots of doubts and he was thinking about his friends
• 41:22
  and what he's missing out on. But I feel like because it was
• 41:25
  that wasn't really in the special in in memory of Alex, I
• 41:30
  think it was it did Count blue little bit.
• 41:32
  I'd have been a little while since we've seen them as well
• 41:35
  from from the Airing of that Seasons, who haven't read, Watch
• 41:37
  That season before watching the special.
• 41:39
  I feel like that that knowledge wasn't there.
• 41:42
  I mean, if you'd seen you in any way, you could have had a safe
• 41:47
  between Graham Mariah, where Ryan is saying, you know what, I
• 41:51
  want to go home, because I think my friends are suffering.
• 41:53
  Because I'm not there and you could have had Graham saying, I
• 41:56
  want to go home because I want to focus on my health because he
• 41:59
  talks about his cancer in. Can you hear me and just laugh
• 42:02
  would have been enough for us to understand why they're both
• 42:05
  going. I just wasn't that at all, and I
• 42:08
  just feel like that was a missed opportunity, you know, but the
• 42:10
  bit where all their heads come together, I was still sad.
• 42:13
  I know, I know it's just nice. It's really nice.
• 42:15
  I do people think I don't know whether I'm is, sloppy people
• 42:18
  think that that it was too emotional?
• 42:21
  I was like, now you need that emotion.
• 42:23
  They are people choosing to real emotional.
• 42:25
  What does that even mean? I all right.
• 42:28
  Well it's like I know I'm old I was okay with them with the
• 42:31
  leaving. I'm a sound the Grimsby thing.
• 42:33
  I think that. Yeah and the same time he was
• 42:36
  under It's not episode. He was he was there was a lot
• 42:39
  going on in there. I don't think that was a
• 42:40
  terrible episode that I quite enjoy recreational though.
• 42:43
  I really enjoyed. I thoroughly enjoyed myself and
• 42:45
  I put it up online and on the instant after worshipping, they
• 42:49
  can fulfill their guys, I thought you loved that and
• 42:52
  people were like, really how dare you enjoy Doctor Who Mike
• 42:59
  is everybody else watching? You had Jack back Jack.
• 43:02
  And yeas together was just Lush a sailor. /, thank you.
• 43:08
  Yes. Yes, you can lash me.
• 43:10
  Anytime you like, This here, look right now, this change it
• 43:14
  stranger to who I am. There's Echoes of who I was a
• 43:17
  sort of call towards who I am at the whole by nerve and Trust.
• 43:21
  All these new instincts, describe a dialogue, you to call
• 43:25
  and then if they top that off with the Sonic Screwdriver would
• 43:28
  say, which is just phenomenal. And it's a barking man.
• 43:33
  That Brilliance, but I love the fact that they parallel her
• 43:37
  making the Sonic Screwdriver with Sheffield steel with.
• 43:40
  The Dalek thay are made like a year later.
• 43:42
  Huh. Yeah, the music here is always
• 43:46
  beautiful this beautiful. I watched there's a DBT extra a
• 43:52
  closer look at this episode where they, it's basically 10
• 43:55
  minutes and I've been making the scene in the doctor, making the
• 43:58
  Sonic Screwdriver and the director was talking about it.
• 44:01
  And I mean, he was very handsome.
• 44:05
  Have we seen the director of this episode of, however, his
• 44:08
  name. Those if you should be sending
• 44:11
  me pictures of for this though, he is a dish and they were
• 44:17
  talking with this and it was just Ali, I realized we've never
• 44:19
  seen this. You've never seen the doctor
• 44:21
  Mica sonic screwdriver, and this is not the train to make this
• 44:24
  Jody doctor this point. This is doctors hands on getting
• 44:27
  stuck in there. Will doing what she goes.
• 44:32
  Should be fine. Yeah, I love it.
• 44:36
  That is the doctor. They're like, why did anyone
• 44:38
  else need more? Convincing than that?
• 44:41
  That that point of that, where she looked at this food and she
• 44:46
  smiled Did he do smiles when she smiles?
• 44:52
  She's so engaging. From the beginning, we were
• 44:56
  talking about other things. Now, we open with Ryan on
• 44:59
  YouTube and I think how kinds of marvelous that this show is
• 45:04
  embracing what's happening currently in the world and not
• 45:08
  just kind of alluding to know when they decide men had those
• 45:13
  new pod things, you know, like in the day in the recycling,
• 45:17
  this was YouTube, front-and-center Ryan's making a
• 45:20
  video because that's what the Youth of today.
• 45:22
  Do I think if you watch the news, Series, you can chart it
• 45:26
  because you've got those dreadfully old Motorola phones
• 45:29
  from series one, then skip forward to like Courtney in Kill
• 45:33
  the moon and she's on Pinterest when that was like bitch.
• 45:37
  And now we're into like YouTube. While I bet in Series 13,
• 45:40
  someone will be doing our bloody podcast.
• 45:43
  Yeah, well, we'll see some tick-tocking, which is my new
• 45:47
  favorite way to spend an evening watching.
• 45:49
  Tic toc like he keeps sending me Bloody videos of cats.
• 45:56
  And I'm like, yes, it's what you want me to do.
• 46:00
  I have friends or so into it. And they were like, you have to
• 46:03
  go and take a fantastic those recipes.
• 46:05
  There's some really funny stuff. That's okay, I'll get one, I got
• 46:07
  it. And I was, like, I'll
• 46:08
  understand. I feel like you have to be young
• 46:10
  to understand this until I just didn't get it.
• 46:13
  But the more you watch, the more it shows you what you like and
• 46:18
  very clever if you like in the cooking stuff, it will show you
• 46:21
  more of a concern for the humor and now I Insidiously Tick Tock
• 46:27
  is wrapping his fingers around your brain is sign right next to
• 46:32
  it. What's occurring?
• 46:39
  Now, I'm lost, right? You have got Jodi be fantastic.
• 46:45
  The fam. Oh, you know what?
• 46:47
  She does here. So she leads us up a blind alley
• 46:50
  because she suggests that the creature, that's all kind of
• 46:55
  tentacles and Tim. Sure.
• 46:57
  I like at war with each other and that's not the case at all,
• 47:00
  was it? That's like a beacon.
• 47:02
  I think he has sent that ahead to find the person.
• 47:08
  He's have ding so he can get his crown.
• 47:11
  Why did I choose that? Manu, who's running the cranes
• 47:16
  then? Was that just because that's the
• 47:18
  first human, it may Probably, yeah, for the first hit in front
• 47:22
  of that, little things tracker in look who it is.
• 47:24
  Here it is. It's like a bad man.
• 47:29
  Eat more salad, Halloween. Yeah, basically, it wasn't this
• 47:34
  around that time as well, wasn't it aired around the time of my
• 47:37
  guidebooks and Halloween? I think it was, it was towards
• 47:39
  the end of October. So I thought it was clever.
• 47:42
  We are for you were going to say it was aired around the time.
• 47:44
  When kebabs are popular, they are always popular in my house.
• 47:46
  I'll tell you, I know, right? I don't even want one when I'm
• 47:51
  pissed though, only ever want a kebab meat.
• 47:53
  When I'm pissed and I understand our love our wonderful thing
• 47:58
  called crispy potatoes, which is basically whole potatoes have
• 48:01
  been deep fried foods and you can get an Apple, it will change
• 48:05
  your life but I'm nowhere near. How's it going to change my
• 48:08
  life? I'll have to come, visit to come
• 48:11
  down, come down. Here we go, she's confronting
• 48:24
  the weird thing again. I mean, she couldn't be more
• 48:28
  doctor. Actually do you know when I
• 48:32
  after this episode aired, I think talking to people online
• 48:34
  about this episode. There was a general consensus of
• 48:36
  all. That was actually really good.
• 48:38
  Yeah. I well remember lot people
• 48:40
  saying, like he achieved a lot like he managed to because
• 48:43
  basically, like you look at Ryan, Graham and Yaz.
• 48:46
  Yeah, they kind of fully formed on they.
• 48:49
  This is what actually, much much for them to kind of go on a
• 48:53
  journey because coming out of this episode, we kind of get who
• 48:57
  they are. Yes, I understand that.
• 49:00
  I just wish we had a bit more of them personally throughout
• 49:05
  series 11. This is what RTD did do really.
• 49:10
  Well. You know, the family aspect that
• 49:13
  kind of around the kitchen table.
• 49:15
  I think I do miss that, but it's certainly went away from the
• 49:18
  mall for the romance and why it did.
• 49:20
  And then he tries to do things like have Clara's family around,
• 49:23
  for Christmas dinner and it didn't quite work.
• 49:25
  Well, they're firmly, I don't even remember who I was.
• 49:30
  You lack the others didn't fit in.
• 49:32
  Well, as this, you know, they calling them say, she's calling
• 49:34
  them her farm and they are actually a fam and then if
• 49:38
  people object to that, as well. But like, I, so a friend of mine
• 49:42
  makes a great reading of that, that the doctors trying to be
• 49:44
  hip and is trying to use like the language of the youth, but
• 49:48
  it doesn't quite get it. Right.
• 49:49
  And that's really lovely, that that is completely private
• 49:53
  credit as well. No, she's trying to be cool.
• 49:56
  And she's not, and that's why I identify with her.
• 50:00
  He's why, I guess, you try and use the language of the.
• 50:02
  You think you're not cool in any way, shape, or form?
• 50:05
  I think you're very cool. Thanks.
• 50:09
  I appreciate that right then. But then I'm not call.
• 50:11
  So, and that's why I think she's awkward.
• 50:15
  I mean, I love that she's awkward.
• 50:17
  I think I'm very awkward person. I just I really identify with
• 50:21
  this doctor perhaps as well, and so much.
• 50:24
  But I will say one thing that, that, that scene later on the
• 50:27
  Graham does confide in her about he, how he's been here.
• 50:30
  Come surgery, brushes it off. Okay, I'm I was a bit like, no,
• 50:36
  I think that was all the god teeth on faced, our chief don't
• 50:39
  want to face this. That's fantastic.
• 50:42
  Those so scary as well. Be watching that 7:00 on bbc1.
• 50:46
  T stuck in people's face I don't want to send him something that
• 50:49
  you normally have country followed instead we're watching
• 50:57
  and then this it is lovely though because the idea that he
• 51:00
  X 12 through each victim. Look how many teeth on his face.
• 51:04
  I know, right? And who knows what his whole
• 51:06
  body. Looks like you've lost a tooth
• 51:10
  or some point in your life. Yes, absolutely.
• 51:13
  Stink like teeth with face mask from week as a whole nother
• 51:20
  level. But yeah, I did have an issue
• 51:24
  with the way. The doctor reacted when Korea
• 51:26
  was talking about his cancer. And she, and she was just like,
• 51:29
  I'm supposed to be reading. I do now by security Oakwood.
• 51:32
  Some that will glaive. I was like no, no that wasn't.
• 51:35
  That wasn't. Okay.
• 51:35
  Who's like that? Okay.
• 51:37
  So I so I get what you're saying.
• 51:41
  I think - I think why I think perhaps people don't want the
• 51:45
  doctor to be that person. They want to be if they wanted
• 51:47
  us to be the person that is able to comfort people.
• 51:52
  When my mom died, I had that conversation with a lot of
• 51:58
  people and I saw I saw that reaction a lot of times because
• 52:03
  some people just don't know how to respond to somebody grieving.
• 52:07
  So I think it is, it's realistic in how its depicted, but I
• 52:13
  understand the objection that people just wish the doctor
• 52:15
  wasn't that person. I know.
• 52:17
  And that was the end be to that episode, you know?
• 52:20
  And I just, I just to me. It almost felt like it came from
• 52:23
  nowhere. I feel like if she said
• 52:25
  something else after that, just been like, I'm supposed to
• 52:27
  something really encouraging by fear.
• 52:30
  Awkward, but you'll get there. That's all I would it be good?
• 52:34
  You know, that little extra couple of lines but it was
• 52:37
  deliver it. Well, that was a deliberate
• 52:39
  character and creative choice but I think maybe it backfire
• 52:43
  because a lot of people object to it.
• 52:44
  But yeah. No, I'm okay.
• 52:47
  A lot of people as well say that she doesn't have confrontations
• 52:50
  with Villas. Hello.
• 52:52
  Oh no, it's happening. Her like full-on anger there at
• 52:55
  him and you can see it. Look at that serious face.
• 52:59
  She's got to love it. There.
• 53:02
  I liked the bit where she runs up the alleyway and just goes,
• 53:05
  oh boy. That's how I'd confront a
• 53:10
  villain. Recently I've been copied on a
• 53:15
  date with someone goes a bit like how can we all this is a
• 53:24
  complete site track right? But you know what?
• 53:26
  The worst date I ever went on was I'm gone tell you this.
• 53:29
  All right just in this part because they were only did
• 53:32
  There's the Man talking about him being valued and we do next
• 53:36
  so he was a doctor and he was so pretentious right?
• 53:43
  Reached over the table at one point, took my hand and when Joe
• 53:47
  I save lives, you know, I don't know.
• 53:52
  So I responded. I put bread on the Shelf.
• 54:01
  There are some very arrogant gay men out there, are there there
• 54:07
  are, but thankfully, it's not all of us.
• 54:09
  Thank god. Well, I sure what?
• 54:11
  This fellow here, right, in dies in a minute, he gets just this
• 54:15
  little moment where he talks to his granddaughter and he's the
• 54:17
  person, he's not just a victim, didn't expect this because it
• 54:24
  giving him so much resolution where Are you know the cute gay
• 54:32
  guy says all my hands are the most important digits and then
• 54:36
  he dies. Yeah, everybody complains about
• 54:39
  that because he's gay, right? No one complains about the old
• 54:42
  getting this? I know, I know and that right
• 54:45
  there is the problem with Twitter, right?
• 54:47
  What you just said that, that is my problem.
• 54:49
  I don't understand this, you know, they were trying to give
• 54:52
  him a bit more character than just a throwaway person even
• 54:54
  though it is a bit of the throwaway person.
• 54:59
  And you can't say, right that Chippewa does not write in or in
• 55:04
  his heroic decent gay characters.
• 55:06
  What about practice, that fantastic relationship between
• 55:09
  those two men. I've Heard lots of problems with
• 55:12
  people with that, as well. Honestly, you cannot beat
• 55:17
  everybody. And I think that to be the show
• 55:19
  and of Doctor Who you have to know that in spades, You see her
• 55:24
  up at the up at the fence there. Did you see that?
• 55:27
  That was the publicity picture with all of them around her.
• 55:31
  I got you. So make it look as if Grace was
• 55:34
  going to be like, because I think to myself, is it going to
• 55:36
  be for companions? Yeah, but see, that's the thing.
• 55:39
  I felt like that with. So tortured series one, Susie in
• 55:44
  the first episode. Spoiler on the end, over a
• 55:48
  decade. And I do like when the title of
• 56:03
  anything has a couple of different meanings.
• 56:06
  I love that. Yeah.
• 56:08
  No. You think it's about the doctor
• 56:10
  falling from the sky but it's not, it's about Grace falling
• 56:14
  from this crane. And also I love the fact that
• 56:18
  the first senior convinced that Ryan's talking Off the docks are
• 56:23
  on YouTube. The most important woman and
• 56:26
  he's not assault and it really is bringing that emphasis back
• 56:30
  on the characters, which I think we've lost in the last or six
• 56:34
  years. Yeah, no. 100% is a lot of heart
• 56:38
  in this and what's really sad is, she's got all this agency
• 56:42
  and she's like, oh, I really loving this and he's like, no,
• 56:45
  don't go. Don't go.
• 56:46
  She's like, no, no, I'm gonna do it.
• 56:48
  Yeah, you forget. It's like that.
• 56:52
  You get caught up in the doctor. You forget.
• 56:54
  It's like for that. Oh, my fuck this.
• 56:56
  If I was told to climb out on that crane.
• 57:00
  No, I I know I don't know though.
• 57:03
  If a man with like teeth all over his face was coming after
• 57:06
  me. Yeah.
• 57:09
  I'd consider it I'd be like shit is that man I went on a date
• 57:15
  with quick. I'm gonna pop I'm out on the
• 57:17
  crane. This whole sequence of her,
• 57:23
  though, off on the crane, where she says, I am the doctor.
• 57:27
  This is huge. This is my step again, this is
• 57:30
  Cinematic look that what you're you're a big fan of Buffy and,
• 57:34
  you know, there's a very important episode that ends up
• 57:37
  on the crane. I think there are some parallels
• 57:39
  here. Oh yeah.
• 57:41
  And represent and actually funding, that's true of know.
• 57:43
  Obviously. He shall run season 2 of
• 57:45
  Torchwood. There's a lot of Buffy and Angel
• 57:48
  James Marsters. But that might not even be
• 57:52
  standing, there's a lot of things, there's that scene where
• 57:55
  Jack is in a church, sneaking through a nest of Weevil, trying
• 57:59
  to get the other gloves. And and just the way that it's
• 58:03
  written in the beats and how its silent, then he makes a noise,
• 58:05
  he looks up and he kind of cut to something else, that's very
• 58:08
  Buffy. Well, there's a glorious bit of
• 58:10
  the video where she runs off that Crane and and that is
• 58:14
  literally taken from the gift. You can see the influence And
• 58:20
  what we got in the gift. You've got a strong impressive
• 58:24
  female character in the woman who fell to work.
• 58:26
  You've got a strong impressive female character.
• 58:30
  Yeah, we've just got a slightly less troubling show Runner
• 58:34
  behind you. Yeah I know.
• 58:37
  And I was I was thinking no should we bring up a fee?
• 58:40
  But I think it's okay. I think it's okay to still enjoy
• 58:43
  it. Acknowledge that terrible.
• 58:45
  Things may have happened behind the scenes.
• 58:47
  Yeah, I know. That is so sad.
• 58:50
  Oh, She has a Lloyd here. I'm going to figure out why I
• 58:53
  plan on the way up, that is so in the doctor.
• 58:56
  Yes. Oh yeah, 100% and it just like,
• 58:58
  really, we're going to know. We're gonna be fantastic.
• 59:03
  Like this, this door. Fantastic viewing figures as
• 59:06
  well. Didn't it?
• 59:07
  Didn't this like yeah. It's just really close.
• 59:18
  So, I am sad that those those raised to die for our series of
• 59:22
  Evan. Yeah.
• 59:26
  But I think that's always the way you're always going to get
• 59:27
  them in at the beginning, like local Capaldi's.
• 59:30
  First episode got like 8 million, or something like that.
• 59:32
  And then it went straight down to like four or five.
• 59:35
  I think in the end. Yeah, I think
• 59:48
  there was such a massive press chip.
• 59:53
  The one thing that guaranteed publicity And that was he made
• 59:56
  the doctor a woman? Yeah.
• 1:00:00
  And you know what? It's the right call and how do
• 1:00:03
  you feel about Missy, Michelle. Gomez of messy why I actually
• 1:00:07
  think that was? That was a very carefully done.
• 1:00:10
  Try wrong for this. Was, it was and I would love to
• 1:00:14
  see Jodie Whittaker and Missy. Yeah, I am all about that life.
• 1:00:20
  I want that to happen but I do love a with Sacha to all as
• 1:00:23
  well. So it's Hold on, prevent bring
• 1:00:26
  it back. I Think I Love Lucy.
• 1:00:31
  Well I'm still waiting for the crossover video featuring Ryan
• 1:00:37
  Sinclair and the Sacha to one master where they're just at it
• 1:00:40
  all the time because my God, I'm there for that.
• 1:00:46
  Now, I better give you some clues of the pornography that I
• 1:00:49
  peruse. I'm tired.
• 1:00:52
  I was Googling and I was doing some in stories in the day
• 1:00:56
  about. It was David Tennant, 50th
• 1:00:59
  birthday and I wanted to do a little host with him, and I will
• 1:01:02
  try to find a picture of the Tenth Doctor and Jack Harkness.
• 1:01:05
  So I Googled Tenth Doctor and Jack Harkness.
• 1:01:07
  And let me tell you, oh my god, really my browser is open to any
• 1:01:14
  sort of image that point because There was a lot of fan art
• 1:01:18
  happening but it works well that that just tells us all that you
• 1:01:22
  have the non-explicit part taking off your search engine is
• 1:01:28
  a clearly clearly do because it was shocking.
• 1:01:40
  Like like in terms of like a hero moment.
• 1:01:43
  Yeah but Capaldi didn't have one.
• 1:01:45
  I don't think in deep breath. I know that I can remember.
• 1:01:51
  He has the the confrontation with the villain and then the
• 1:01:53
  villain falls out but that's kind of know what the deep
• 1:01:56
  breath. I feel like I'm actually
• 1:02:00
  watching again soon. I think I fancy the re-watched
• 1:02:02
  been a while. I feel like they were contending
• 1:02:04
  with a bunch of stuff in that episode obviously compiled.
• 1:02:07
  You'd been in Doctor Who before some of that situation about,
• 1:02:11
  recognizing the face, I always feel like it's like, is that a
• 1:02:15
  hangover from that Miss time? Because you've got the
• 1:02:17
  paternoster gang, and then they never appear again, and I love
• 1:02:21
  them. And I just finished reading a
• 1:02:23
  book. I know, I do, I - Lee, I love
• 1:02:25
  them. I just finished reading the book
• 1:02:26
  a call at these concerts silhouette which is The doctor
• 1:02:29
  and Clara and topped off and Cara investigating a carnival of
• 1:02:34
  Curiosities. In a frost fair.
• 1:02:37
  Oh well, I'm such a good book. I thoroughly enjoyed myself.
• 1:02:41
  And there in that, I want more of them, I do enjoy sometimes
• 1:02:45
  with the first episode of a new doctor does half back and remind
• 1:02:51
  you that the same corrupt. And I know you've got if you got
• 1:02:55
  season 12, I blew right. Well then robot Very much a
• 1:02:59
  hangover from pertwee's time 100% if I know that having not
• 1:03:04
  seen any good sweet. But I like, I mean, you know,
• 1:03:07
  you had like Cassandra didn't you in New Earth which was like
• 1:03:10
  it was just going to remind you where you were.
• 1:03:13
  And I think that's what they that's what the person after
• 1:03:15
  going did for compelte. Just to make you all seized with
• 1:03:19
  jealousy. Like is currently slowly
• 1:03:22
  exploring classic Who for the first time one of them lasted
• 1:03:27
  and now I am I would call myself a doctor who obsessive.
• 1:03:33
  But I became to who in 2005 and re-watch the new hukill time,
• 1:03:38
  but you know what? I've see, I've heard people
• 1:03:39
  criticized as not true fans, whatever the fuck that means
• 1:03:44
  because they've only come to Doctor Who via the new series.
• 1:03:48
  Oh, get over yourselves. You can come to Doctor Who now
• 1:03:52
  in the woman who fell to Earth and still be a doctor who fan.
• 1:03:55
  Yeah. And think what it would be like
• 1:03:56
  to watch those different ones for the first time.
• 1:03:59
  Yeah. Jesus.
• 1:04:00
  No. Oh no.
• 1:04:09
  These were fantastic. I don't like to see more of
• 1:04:11
  these two together. I kind of jet go to to the idea
• 1:04:15
  of them exploring gree throughout this season, by a
• 1:04:17
  Graham because I think that's really well done.
• 1:04:20
  The bit where he goes home and sees her.
• 1:04:24
  Okay, after my mom passed I had to clear out flat and I
• 1:04:30
  absolutely went through those moments.
• 1:04:32
  It's hot very real. Yeah I remember This is great
• 1:04:39
  dialogue as well. We can choose who we want to be,
• 1:04:42
  and that's a really good thing to say to kids as well.
• 1:04:45
  You can choose to be a good person kids or to be a couple of
• 1:04:48
  yourself. Yes.
• 1:05:01
  So in our fair play, throughout the universe, come on.
• 1:05:09
  And that's a great line back. There is a weird bit in a
• 1:05:13
  minute, though. We're Where this guy chooses to
• 1:05:19
  kill him or we thinking him and she's really angry about it as a
• 1:05:22
  shame. Yeah.
• 1:05:24
  The similar to, when they Harrier Jones, fires on the
• 1:05:30
  sycorax, in the Christmas Invasion, think of was a half
• 1:05:33
  back to that, you know, humans can be monsters to not just
• 1:05:36
  people with teeth in their face. I think Russell Davis pulls
• 1:05:39
  those reversals a bit better, though, you know, that kind of,
• 1:05:42
  you know, we're in the Christmas invasion.
• 1:05:43
  They were like, yeah, woo, they going Going.
• 1:05:46
  And then it's like, oh shit. They've been destroyed.
• 1:05:50
  We're going to twist the immediate risk of like the your
• 1:05:52
  relation to the yeah. Do you remember in the end of
• 1:05:56
  time? We're at the David.
• 1:05:58
  Tell us like yeah, I'm alive. I'm alive and it's like knock,
• 1:06:01
  knock, knock knock. Oh, Erin ends.
• 1:06:06
  Oh, come on Grace. Just just climb down.
• 1:06:08
  One down for step away. We think it's a bit too busy
• 1:06:13
  with four people but we're willing to let a 5.
• 1:06:16
  We'll be in the Tardis if you survive, isn't that strange but
• 1:06:20
  it's a cuz it's a real relationship and this episode.
• 1:06:23
  They were you doing you just come across as that?
• 1:06:25
  Yeah, Yasin and Ryan's relationship in.
• 1:06:28
  This is really interesting real. And I'm, oh, and it's just
• 1:06:33
  that's what you want to see. And I feel like, you know, that
• 1:06:37
  the kind of it's a double-edged sword, season 11, you get so
• 1:06:40
  much of Jody getting being given so much dialogue and so much to
• 1:06:45
  do and see Say, and then they become a bit of The Spectator to
• 1:06:49
  round her and it's a double-edged sword, because
• 1:06:52
  you're missing what the companions can bring, because
• 1:06:54
  there's a lot of them. So you'll feel different.
• 1:07:00
  If there were quite a lot of areas where the action sort of
• 1:07:03
  stopped. And so there's that bitten Rosa
• 1:07:05
  between Ryan and Yaz, we're talking about racism.
• 1:07:08
  But that Brilliance oranga conundrum where the plot stops
• 1:07:12
  and Yaz and Ryan talk about Ryan's dad's.
• 1:07:16
  There's the bit is Demons of the Punjab where Graham and yeas
• 1:07:21
  talk about traveling with the doctor.
• 1:07:23
  And the really nice sort of moments.
• 1:07:27
  It is there. Maybe series 11 needs to be
• 1:07:31
  rewashed by both of us. Maybe.
• 1:07:34
  I mean again it's been a little while for me.
• 1:07:39
  As well as he found himself as well.
• 1:07:43
  That video, he looks something I need to learn from him.
• 1:07:47
  Me too. This is what I knew as well.
• 1:07:51
  This was something quite different because they do the
• 1:07:54
  code of of the funeral. Yes, Moffitt would not do that.
• 1:07:58
  No, No. So we're dealing with the
• 1:08:02
  emotional consequences of losing.
• 1:08:04
  Somebody really this? Absolute has it all?
• 1:08:08
  Yeah. Yeah, and I know some people
• 1:08:12
  that have certain my friend Jack thinks.
• 1:08:15
  This is the strongest episode of the chip molera, very strong.
• 1:08:19
  It is very strong. I think there are better ones
• 1:08:22
  but I think this is a terrific open.
• 1:08:26
  This is my favorite of Legacy, introducing a new doctor hundred
• 1:08:30
  percent. I really enjoy it.
• 1:08:34
  Oh, bless him. I mean this this scenery as
• 1:08:37
  well, let's just hope this. This spotlights like a British
• 1:08:41
  landscape. Beautiful?
• 1:08:42
  Yeah, that's refreshing to see a sub 2.
• 1:08:47
  That we saw so many of the shots of the London Skyline.
• 1:08:52
  Think I'm intrigued to see what the new seasons for to look like
• 1:08:54
  because they're obviously only filming in and around Cardiff
• 1:08:58
  was shot there of her watching him.
• 1:09:01
  That's a lovely image reasonably damage and she's understanding
• 1:09:07
  him and she's seeing who he is, he's determined, I do like that
• 1:09:11
  about him. Oh, look at him.
• 1:09:15
  Lone Wolf. They're waiting for his dad.
• 1:09:17
  She don't my favorite writers, although it's where they try and
• 1:09:20
  make him really masculine River in the ghost of on.
• 1:09:22
  Um, where's like? I've got my God, I'm gonna go
• 1:09:25
  and get her and then they all start shooting them, he's like,
• 1:09:32
  Approaching a really awkward conversation and I think that's
• 1:09:37
  the problem with that saying is she's already shown to be kind
• 1:09:42
  of very emotionally mature and able to deal with that stuff.
• 1:09:46
  Yeah. So, maybe she's just for old,
• 1:09:50
  you know, where I can't, I just can't deal with you today gray
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  eyebrows. I'm going to say, I'm really
• 1:09:53
  awkward. Yeah, lady, maybe, I don't know.
• 1:09:58
  Oh, this is beautiful. So I'm going to tell you, okay,
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  cuz I've been through this a few times but I had to give the
• 1:10:07
  eulogy at my mom's funeral. I wish I could have been as
• 1:10:13
  eloquent as he is there. I was a fucking mess.
• 1:10:18
  There was like, Snot, bubbles coming out of my nose.
• 1:10:21
  I think anybody would be in this.
• 1:10:24
  This is, this is This is really unique, actually, another way he
• 1:10:29
  plays it. Look at it.
• 1:10:30
  Look at his he's sort of smiling, but sad and it's very
• 1:10:35
  nuanced, actually. I think I think he really won us
• 1:10:40
  all over in this episode. We were like, yeah, we're here
• 1:10:43
  for Graham rehearsing if a Graham, but what we learned the
• 1:10:46
  lesson, what have we learned the lesson of people going?
• 1:10:49
  Oh my God. It's, you know, it's him from
• 1:10:51
  the chase. What's he gonna bring?
• 1:10:53
  Like he has done a ton of acting before?
• 1:10:57
  Actually, I think that the, if you can be funny, if you can be
• 1:11:00
  scripted and be funny like comedians on our, I think they
• 1:11:04
  probably the best kind of actors to play the other heightened
• 1:11:08
  emotions as well. I think that you have you
• 1:11:10
  talking about Catherine, Tate, you know, I have quite a high
• 1:11:12
  hopes for John Bishop now after this, at his announcement but
• 1:11:17
  Donna just just knocked it out of the park dingy all.
• 1:11:23
  Yeah, she absolutely did. And I think probably the
• 1:11:25
  emotional highs the Absolute emotional highs, a doctor who
• 1:11:29
  are in series for its her. When she's in Pompeii at the
• 1:11:33
  end, it's her when she loses her kids, in the forest of the Dead,
• 1:11:37
  is her in the whole of turn left, right?
• 1:11:40
  And then and then when she has her memories taken away like
• 1:11:43
  that extraordinary, I think. So think about that.
• 1:11:46
  Think about all the other Donna went through.
• 1:11:48
  That's what. That's what them the doctor and
• 1:11:50
  Donna was all about. Like we didn't see that with you
• 1:11:54
  as really yummy seen that yet. I think the emotion is as it is
• 1:11:58
  a lot more subtle. Wasn't it is is but you know
• 1:12:03
  what? Like it's a tough one because I
• 1:12:05
  think this is more realistic. I don't think life is
• 1:12:08
  hysterical, like it was with Donna, but that's more, that's
• 1:12:11
  more interesting to watch and it's more of a challenge for an
• 1:12:13
  actress. And represent, that's why I
• 1:12:17
  think when we can win, we from dopes dogs, to be kind of the
• 1:12:19
  green. And when we're leaving pre
• 1:12:22
  steaiing revolution of the Daleks, and then we have those
• 1:12:24
  extra scenes that Yaz was like, front and center and doing more.
• 1:12:28
  And I was like, this is intentional.
• 1:12:29
  Obviously this guy's to seem like they're giving her more now
• 1:12:32
  and she could have had that throughout this whole thing.
• 1:12:34
  Yeah, although that bit in this room conundrum, where she keeps
• 1:12:38
  the pting down, the corridor Italy?
• 1:12:40
  Yeah, it is hilarious. It is hilarious.
• 1:12:42
  Sure. Don't mind that episodes.
• 1:12:44
  No, I don't know. Find there.
• 1:12:47
  You know, I think it's very responsible, welcome back to
• 1:12:49
  Ryan very quickly to show a young man, struggling with
• 1:12:54
  grief. You don't often see like young
• 1:12:58
  hip been dealing with that sort of stuff on TV.
• 1:13:02
  I love the fact. She gets it from a charity shop
• 1:13:04
  as well. I know, I've been using, I gotta
• 1:13:06
  say that. I do love a charity shop.
• 1:13:08
  And right, I do too. On this board, there she is.
• 1:13:18
  Him doing that. That's essentially what I do in
• 1:13:20
  my oven, while the heart all about design and stuff.
• 1:13:22
  So we going these designer shops and I'm just reading the
• 1:13:24
  incredible views. Yeah, yeah, I'm watching your
• 1:13:27
  YouTube channel, whilst you know, he's here.
• 1:13:32
  Although this whole sequence as well, leading to a cliffhanger.
• 1:13:35
  Yeah. And I didn't expect, I don't
• 1:13:37
  know why I expected but I welcomed it.
• 1:13:41
  Look at the lighting in this scene.
• 1:13:43
  How beautiful she looks like how these delicious, but even if
• 1:13:49
  it's not a set, that's an actual location.
• 1:13:51
  That, you know, that the thing it looks looks real and grimy
• 1:13:54
  and dirty. And it's just, it's stunning
• 1:13:56
  stunning on screen and whilst I do really like Peter Capaldi.
• 1:14:01
  Yeah. Like I'm not going to be ageist
• 1:14:03
  but there was a kind of a sense that, you know, this is a grumpy
• 1:14:07
  old man. Traveling around the universe,
• 1:14:09
  suddenly the doctors young and fresh, and like ready to go on
• 1:14:14
  adventures. And I feel like, that's a good
• 1:14:16
  stepping on point 100%. You needed to be, could be
• 1:14:19
  different because it was so sort of towards the end of capacities
• 1:14:23
  when he got to that really dark face and you needed some light
• 1:14:26
  and it had to be late because you're not quite often for the
• 1:14:28
  doctor is kind of a opposite or to what it was he was So she was
• 1:14:32
  before. See that insane.
• 1:14:34
  Lash-up she's made that as very doctorate as well like part
• 1:14:38
  microwave parte Ariel but yeah. Gosh the lion is extraordinary
• 1:14:44
  the same. This whole season is like this
• 1:14:48
  time. I love it.
• 1:14:49
  I think it's, you know, it's beautiful.
• 1:14:51
  Yeah. She doesn't know and it's the
• 1:15:00
  microwave going. And then there's the Cliffhanger
• 1:15:07
  because I remember thinking, what the fuck are they gonna get
• 1:15:10
  out of this? Yeah, Look at right here.
• 1:15:20
  He's like what? And you know what Mesa is that
• 1:15:27
  last scene where we're really far away and there's nothing to
• 1:15:31
  save them, you know. Yeah, I genuinely couldn't wait
• 1:15:35
  until next week. I was like, yes, oh I'm sorry.
• 1:15:38
  I'm going to let this play into the ending because you know
• 1:15:40
  what's coming up on you. The fabulous guest actors of
• 1:15:43
  series 11? Yes I do.
• 1:15:47
  I do like a trailer. It wasn't it was a new way of
• 1:15:50
  doing it. Wasn't it was it was I enjoy
• 1:15:52
  your trailer. Let's just say hello.
• 1:15:55
  Highlight now. From kablam.
• 1:16:08
  Oh, I love that man, from Punjab has gorgeous handsome and I was
• 1:16:15
  so I was the guy from Sarang go as well.
• 1:16:18
  Yeah. I'll Siobhan finneran in the
• 1:16:22
  which binders. You know what?
• 1:16:25
  I think that's another underrated episodes.
• 1:16:28
  All right. Malik.
• 1:16:35
  He didn't really do much today but he was there.
• 1:16:39
  No, but they saved the net Robinson for last on Earth.
• 1:16:51
  Alan, Cumming. All right.
• 1:16:58
  I like him. He says the, which Fighters.
• 1:17:06
  What is it? I don't need the mask, I just do
• 1:17:09
  it for the drama. I like my God, that man is
• 1:17:13
  practically me. Really cynical, but more on that
• 1:18:04
  later. I'm going to ask you a question
• 1:18:06
  now, which I ask at the end of all these on the back of that
• 1:18:09
  wonderful country, why should people now go and grab the woman
• 1:18:14
  who fell to Earth from their shelves and put it on
• 1:18:17
  immediately is epic. It is such a big starting point
• 1:18:26
  for what does tuned in. I think to be quite a dynamic.
• 1:18:31
  Akira, I think it really is a very interesting time.
• 1:18:34
  I think it's a really nice refresher to cool Jody, who job
• 1:18:40
  is. Doctor is a really great
• 1:18:41
  introduction, that there's a lot of heart, there's action, it's
• 1:18:45
  stunning music, everything to do with this episode is a Cocker
• 1:18:49
  especifically. It's got a lot going for it.
• 1:18:53
  This little flap, like, most Doctor Who episode Not without
• 1:19:01
  not really did. I think it's got everything and
• 1:19:03
  I just think that it would, it's, you would benefit your
• 1:19:06
  life to watch it. So, you think, you know, I
• 1:19:10
  usually I add something to what the person says, but I can't not
• 1:19:14
  really sure what I can add to. Okay, Jody whisker is absolutely
• 1:19:17
  beautiful. And here, what?
• 1:19:19
  Excuse do you need more than that?
• 1:19:21
  And a terrific actress and, you know, I want to say one more
• 1:19:24
  time. I just compelling choice to play
• 1:19:28
  the Dozer. Like, if we're talking about
• 1:19:30
  That contrast from Doctor to doctor from Capaldi to Whitaker.
• 1:19:34
  Yeah, it's very important. I think you need it.
• 1:19:38
  It's lifted the whole series again and it's made you as meet
• 1:19:41
  me and we don't just want to watch more.
• 1:19:44
  And when last question I'm going to ask you is, should I be able
• 1:19:49
  to entice you back to do? Another one of these?
• 1:19:53
  I kind of know that I might be able to do that because we
• 1:19:55
  talked about this beforehand. What would you imagine?
• 1:19:59
  We would watch Why back right? Well I obviously I'm interested
• 1:20:05
  in watching more Classics. That would be really fun and
• 1:20:10
  classy. I think I think it'd be quite an
• 1:20:12
  interesting perspective to have to talk about the classic
• 1:20:16
  episode. There's somebody who is new to
• 1:20:19
  watching it, that makes sense and yet still a complete
• 1:20:22
  obsessive completely obsessed. I am completely obsessed but I
• 1:20:26
  would also like to I am I think I feel myself Stuff about to
• 1:20:31
  embark on a Capaldi Marathon, okay, I feel like I've got to
• 1:20:34
  jump back in and so I feel like with those fresh in my mind,
• 1:20:38
  they would be a treat. Okay.
• 1:20:41
  Oh I, so let's do this live on air.
• 1:20:44
  Put a pillow Capaldi episode and it's yours.
• 1:20:46
  Go for it. Okay.
• 1:20:48
  Oh no, just one maybe pressure, no pressure, If it's not been
• 1:20:53
  done yet, World enough and time. Thank you very much for your
• 1:21:13
  time. It has been off and on like it's
• 1:21:16
  been a complete pleasure and thanks until next time,
• 1:21:22
  absolutely.