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Oh Virginia, what have you done? · The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

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  Speaker 2: I'm Hugh Hewitt.
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  Speaker 1: As predicted, Virginia did what it did, and I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to talk with my guest, Mary Katherine ham of getting
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  Speaker 1: hammered fame about that before we do that, Mary Katherine,
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  Speaker 1: where your ears burning in the last half hour, because
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  Speaker 1: I was talking about you with a pretty interesting guy,
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  Speaker 1: Justice Neil Gorsich.
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  Speaker 2: Where your ears burning?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: Nice?
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  Speaker 5: They were not.
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  Speaker 6: That's exciting though.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 1: The reason is he's written this brand new book, Heroes
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  Speaker 1: of seventeen seventy six, and it's for I would guess.
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  Speaker 2: Fourth graders through tenth graders.
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  Speaker 1: But I mentioned in there that Genghis Kate might enjoy
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  Speaker 1: some of the mayhem. There's a lot of mayhem in
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  Speaker 1: this book. A lot of people die and get killed
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  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But in there is the story
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  Speaker 1: of Mary Catherine Goddard who was the printer of the
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  Speaker 1: Declaration of Independence?
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  Speaker 2: Did you know that?
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  Speaker 7: I did know that she was very brave. She put
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  Speaker 7: her name on it so that everyone knew she was
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  Speaker 7: on it. She spelled Mary Catherine like I do. She
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  Speaker 7: was a journalist also, and her skoflaw brother ran off
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  Speaker 7: from the businesses that they started over and over again,
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  Speaker 7: and she kept them running and she was a great patriot.
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  Speaker 8: Well he left that out of the book, the fact
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  Speaker 8: that her brother ran off with the money, but he
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  Speaker 8: put the fact that she bravely signed her name and
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  Speaker 8: I saw that it was spelled the same asinery that justice.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how you're going to promote this, but
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  Speaker 1: you got to do a bit with Mary Katherine Ham.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm going to have our mutual friend who bookshon
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  Speaker 1: to the show.
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  Speaker 2: Puts you in touch with the justices people, because.
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  Speaker 1: You'll love this book and you'll love the fact that
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the brassiest people are the women who
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  Speaker 1: run the revolution and no one's ever heard of them before,
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  Speaker 1: like Mary Katherine Goddard.
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  Speaker 2: Don't you had Let's go to the bad news.
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  Speaker 1: I predicted on Fox News yesterday on the show, We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna lose this we're gonna lose this because it's really
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  Speaker 1: a blue state and Unlessier Glenn Younk and we can't win.
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  Speaker 2: And then last night.
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  Speaker 1: They teased me into staying up late because of course
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  Speaker 1: Fair Fact for some reason came in late and we
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  Speaker 1: were at ten points up with forty five percent. Menovo
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  Speaker 1: was up by ten point and then it just crashed
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  Speaker 1: and burned and we are now stuck with a ten
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  Speaker 1: to one map that hopefully will be thrown out by
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  Speaker 1: the court. But I'm not an optimist about that either.
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  Speaker 7: I am not an optimist about that either. I hate
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  Speaker 7: to report to you from the newly Maryland California eized Virginia.
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  Speaker 7: I did predict that we would lose, that the No
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  Speaker 7: side would lose this by an annoyingly small margin, which
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  Speaker 7: seems to be what happened, because people did get a
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  Speaker 7: little riled up. I do think a more consistent and
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  Speaker 7: funded early persuasion campaign probably could have done a lot
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  Speaker 7: of good. But honestly, in the state, I encountered almost
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  Speaker 7: nothing on the NO side. I know money was spent,
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  Speaker 7: but I'm talking two YouTube ads and a handful of
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  Speaker 7: mailers is what I saw and I heard Barack Obama
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  Speaker 7: on the.
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  Speaker 4: Yes side four times daily.
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  Speaker 2: Every day, every podcast. He was on your podcast, he
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  Speaker 2: was on my podcast. They bought trying to get him
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  Speaker 2: off of there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Glenn Youngkin did Yeoman's work. Glenn Younkin came here,
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  Speaker 1: he went there, he did everywhere that he was asked
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  Speaker 1: to go. But there's only one Glen Youngkin, and there
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  Speaker 1: aren't any other Republicans left after the wipeout last year,
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  Speaker 1: So now we have a ten to one thing. I
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  Speaker 1: made the argument, Mary Coat, it's just so stupid to
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  Speaker 1: have done. Because the state needs Republicans for the military,
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  Speaker 1: it needs Republican for funding at Newport News, it needs
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  Speaker 1: Republican for business. What's the message this sends to every
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  Speaker 1: business thinking about locating to Virginia.
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  Speaker 7: Don't look I think we're on a downward spiral. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: if you look around at Fairfax County. Fairfax County was
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  Speaker 7: a gem of the nation when it came to public schools,
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  Speaker 7: when it came to quality of life, when it came
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  Speaker 7: to public facilities and services, and yes, the cost of
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  Speaker 7: living was medium high, but it has skyrocketed while all
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  Speaker 7: of those services have gone down, as has safety. Because
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  Speaker 7: of course, our county won't prosecute criminals, and it won't
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  Speaker 7: deal with illegal immigrants. And when you combine the two,
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  Speaker 7: they really love to keep those guys around. So we've
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  Speaker 7: got a lot of people committing murders and committing rapes
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  Speaker 7: and sexual assault and various violent crimes that do not.
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  Speaker 4: Get dealt with.
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  Speaker 7: And I just think the enrollments going down in public
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  Speaker 7: schools precipitously and eventually you people will just begin to
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  Speaker 7: go elsewhere they can do that, and they have done
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  Speaker 7: that in the past. The federal workforce has gotten somewhat
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  Speaker 7: smaller under Trump, and frankly.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's why a lot of Northern Virginia.
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  Speaker 7: Went really hard left on this one, is because they
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  Speaker 7: are mad about that, and they were mad about it
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  Speaker 7: before the twenty twenty five election, which is part of
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  Speaker 7: why Spamberger was elected by such a large margin. I
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  Speaker 7: do think she's done her reputation a lot of damage.
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  Speaker 7: Not I'm not sure she cares. Perhaps it was worth
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  Speaker 7: it for this win, this squeaker, But we're in not
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  Speaker 7: a great way because you can't trust these folks to keep.
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  Speaker 2: The Virginia Way, which used to be everywhere. It's a
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  Speaker 2: liar and.
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  Speaker 7: The Virginia Way used to be moderate business friendly Democrat
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  Speaker 7: because they used to exist and moderate business friendly Republican
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  Speaker 7: and they would just switch off. And now you can't
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  Speaker 7: come here and assure that that's going to be the environment,
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  Speaker 7: or assure that you have safety or good or good schools,
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  Speaker 7: even in affluent areas like this one.
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  Speaker 1: And Tennessee has no aid come tax. In North Carolina
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  Speaker 1: has two point five percent income tax. If you're in
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  Speaker 1: the Beltway, you're in the Beltway. You can't run away.
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  Speaker 1: There's only Maryland. And nobody wants to drive all the
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  Speaker 1: way from West Virginia. A few people do, but not
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  Speaker 1: many people do. You're kind of but I'm already I'm
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  Speaker 1: already looking around because I can do this from anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: And if that legislature.
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  Speaker 1: Goes nuts, it goes nuts. Let me ask you about
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  Speaker 1: what follows next. Florida is going to hold a special
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  Speaker 1: section session. First, we got to get the Supreme Court
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  Speaker 1: to answer the constitutional question about whether Section five.
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  Speaker 2: With the voting rights. I did not ask the Justice
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  Speaker 2: about that.
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  Speaker 1: That would get me disqualified from interviewing justices forever. But
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  Speaker 1: they've got this big case about whether or not to
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  Speaker 1: strike down Section five. If they do we got to
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  Speaker 1: redistrict all over the South. Then we got to do
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  Speaker 1: some in a hurry. So the buzz is maybe the
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  Speaker 1: lefties are slow walking this, so we get it on
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  Speaker 1: July one. I still think people will redistrict. I think
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  Speaker 1: they will because of this. And Florida has a choice
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  Speaker 1: from do you want Florida to go ahead or do
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  Speaker 1: you want the redistricting wards to end for a while?
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  Speaker 7: Well, look, Indiana already tried in alive branch, right they
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  Speaker 7: Republicans Indiana de escalated and the answer was Virginia right.
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  Speaker 7: So I am very sympathetic to people who look to
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  Speaker 7: Florida and go, well, why don't you guys go ahead?
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  Speaker 7: By the way, Mark Caputo notes, Florida has a surprisingly
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  Speaker 7: clear constitutional amendment passed in twenty ten by sixty three percent,
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  Speaker 7: prohibits redistricting with the intent to favor or disfavor incumbents
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  Speaker 7: or political party. It's hard to get around that. Well, Mark,
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  Speaker 7: wait till you hear what happened in Virginia.
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  Speaker 4: We passive.
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  Speaker 7: We passed an amendment in twenty twenty to deal with this,
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  Speaker 7: which is another reason why unilaterally disarming as a Republican
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  Speaker 7: on redistricting is a bad idea because in California, where
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  Speaker 7: they had an independent commission, they worked the thing and
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  Speaker 7: works the refs until it wasn't an independent commission anymore.
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  Speaker 7: In New York, they've been trying to get all their
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  Speaker 7: advantages out of that for Democrats, despite the fact that
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  Speaker 7: voters wanted to bipartisan commission in Virginia. As soon as
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  Speaker 7: Democrats get a trifecta, what do they do. They knock
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  Speaker 7: out the jerrymandering ban. So do I trust you guys
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  Speaker 7: if you told me there's a national jerrymandering ban, I
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  Speaker 7: don't even know if that's constitutional, but you're going to
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  Speaker 7: knock it out the second it's convenient for you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, this is why I got a column coming out
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  Speaker 1: in Fox tomorrow. Why are the Republicans have to stand
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  Speaker 1: by the philibuster Because it's the first hurdle to expanding
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  Speaker 1: the Supreme Court to fourteen and destroying the rule of
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  Speaker 1: wan in America, And whatever one party does, the other
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  Speaker 1: party does. So I'm hoping Florida goes forward now. It is,
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  Speaker 1: in fact useful if the Court strikes down Section five
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  Speaker 1: of the Voting Rights Act as a prod to moving
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  Speaker 1: that forward with the Gary mandering. But all I've been
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  Speaker 1: very consistent from the beginning. Constitution says nothing about gary mandering.
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  Speaker 1: It's up to the states to gary mander. They rolled
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  Speaker 1: over provisions in the Virginia state law about when to
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  Speaker 1: schedule the election, but the Virginia Supreme Portant, primarily Democrats,
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  Speaker 1: are going to take a look at this and say
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  Speaker 1: we're not going to disturb the will of the people
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  Speaker 1: and what they wanted. I think you said it on
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  Speaker 1: getting hammered today. They were really hoping it would be mooted.
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  Speaker 1: They were really hoping to lose and they wouldn't have
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  Speaker 1: to decide. Now they have to decide, and they have
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  Speaker 1: to destroy the reputation to the justices.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it was a bad move on their
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  Speaker 7: part not to take this and fast track it before
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  Speaker 7: the election, because all this money was spent, all these
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  Speaker 7: people used their energy and time, and frankly, the Democrats
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  Speaker 7: violated about three different kinds of statutes and constitutional requirements
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  Speaker 7: to get the thing on the ballot. The law reflects
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  Speaker 7: that it was done illegally, but I'm not sure they're
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  Speaker 7: willing to strike that down post voting.
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  Speaker 1: This is just to the bigger question we're in doing
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  Speaker 1: an era of hardball politics, but politics has never been
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  Speaker 1: bean bag. John Thune said this on Fox News Today.
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  Speaker 1: Cut number thirteen.
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  Speaker 9: Ensure that through the end of the Trump presidency if
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  Speaker 9: they're funded, because I don't see any scenario where Democrats
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  Speaker 9: ultimately are going to say we are going to fund
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  Speaker 9: these agencies. They can't do it. And it's the same
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  Speaker 9: thing I mentioned earlier. It's their far left base that
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  Speaker 9: is running the show around here and forcing these Democrats
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  Speaker 9: into positions where they can't even do basic things like
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  Speaker 9: fund government.
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  Speaker 1: So Mary Catherine thirty second, far left base is running
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  Speaker 1: the Democrats. They're running the party. The party has gone
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  Speaker 1: over the edge. And I don't think anyone doesn't know that.
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  Speaker 1: I am I being optimistic about that. I think everybody
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  Speaker 1: knows they've lost their collective mind and gone to the left.
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  Speaker 7: I think most people know that the problem is are
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  Speaker 7: they going to just be like, well, I'd like an
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  Speaker 7: alternative even if they're a little crazy right, But I
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  Speaker 7: do think I don't know, like promoting HESBLA fans is
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  Speaker 7: not the way to go, and people have experienced for
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  Speaker 7: them going crazy in the past, so they've seen this before.
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  Speaker 4: But you got to get the word out.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we will continue to do that as you did
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  Speaker 1: so admirably with Vick Mattis today on Getting Hammered. We Virginians,
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  Speaker 1: we do. We happy to who got screwed. We'll stick
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  Speaker 1: together Americ Katherineham thank you. Follow on exit MK Hammer,
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  Speaker 1: listen to Getting Hammered and come right back to today as
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  Speaker 1: you do a show.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to America.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Cue Hewett on this Wednesday, joined by Bethany Mandel.
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  Speaker 1: Bethany is one of the founders of the mom Wars
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  Speaker 1: dot substack dot com, the Moomwars dot substack dot com
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  Speaker 1: and Bethanie Welcome.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if you read.
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  Speaker 1: Rachel Goldberg and pollin this new book yet when we
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  Speaker 1: see you again, have you had a chance.
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  Speaker 4: I haven't.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, after our last conversation, I pre ordered it and
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  Speaker 3: it's running late, so as soon as it comes, I'm here.
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  Speaker 3: But I've watched every single one of the interviews that
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  Speaker 3: she's done.
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  Speaker 4: They've been a lot of them.
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  Speaker 3: It seems like it must be an excruciating book tour,
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  Speaker 3: but it's been really captivating to watch you.
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  Speaker 1: I got to pre tape mine with her and it
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  Speaker 1: dropped yesterday, but it was the first one, and she
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  Speaker 1: wasn't worn down, but I said, it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: just awful doing this, and I salute you for it.
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  Speaker 1: And she's really a profile and courage for doing it.
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  Speaker 1: But it's a magnificent study. So I will come back
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  Speaker 1: and ask you the next time. Now, did you listen
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  Speaker 1: to the commentary podcast yesterday?
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  Speaker 4: Part of it?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So Seth did the reporting. Your husband set did
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  Speaker 1: the reporting on the Mission convention that turned virulently anti submittic,
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  Speaker 1: and the commentary gang have decided to call the Democrats
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  Speaker 1: anti Zionist or anti Israel. In fact, the Democratic Party
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  Speaker 1: is anti Semitic. It's just factual. It is not debatable.
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  Speaker 1: It is anti Submitic. Do you agree with me?
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  Speaker 4: I do, yeah, And I wish I wish I didn't.
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  Speaker 3: I wish I could push back on you and say, no,
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  Speaker 3: you know, there's a few bad actors.
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  Speaker 4: I wish I could say that.
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  Speaker 3: I think that would be better for me as an
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  Speaker 3: American Jew, to have two parties that, you know, imperfect,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, friendly to friendly to the Jewish people
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  Speaker 3: and to the State of Israel. But I don't think
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  Speaker 3: we have that anymore. I don't think that we have
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  Speaker 3: that from Democrats.
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  Speaker 1: And we had a handful of Republican or Republican identified
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  Speaker 1: podcasters like Candace Owen and a few others who were
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  Speaker 1: anti Semitic.
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  Speaker 2: And they're out.
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  Speaker 1: And they were never that big to begin with, but
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  Speaker 1: they're out. The Republican Party is now whether or not
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  Speaker 1: American Jews want to be Republicans, it's really their only choice.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think that message is getting through?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if I disagree. I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: I agree with you on that one.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, if you look at sort of the popularity and
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  Speaker 3: the listenership numbers Candice Owens and Tucker Carlson, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: at the point where I'm putting Megan Kelly in the
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  Speaker 3: same list, their listener numbers are huge. They're not inconsequential representatively.
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  Speaker 3: Staphonic went on the Free Press podcast a few days
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  Speaker 3: ago and she said, basically, like, these people are not elected,
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  Speaker 3: they're not they're not, you know, terribly consequential, But that
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  Speaker 3: doesn't mean they're not influential.
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  Speaker 4: So, you know, while it's.
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  Speaker 3: Not the Republican Party platform to have these people be
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  Speaker 3: sort of the spokespeople for it, they are incredibly, incredibly influential.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I would contrast that with people.
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  Speaker 1: We do have some anti Semitic, in my opinion, legislators
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  Speaker 1: in the form of Tom I just think he's anti Semitic. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but he would say no, I'm just again spending money
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  Speaker 1: on Israel. But it just comes down to being ani
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  Speaker 1: Semitic and being a pin in the neck. And hopefully
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  Speaker 1: he's defeated. But I read right before the show from
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  Speaker 1: The New Republic the Breakfast Club host an armchair political analyst,
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  Speaker 1: Charlemagne the God has a new nickname for Democratic Minority
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  Speaker 1: Leader Hakim Jeffries Apac Shakur. Now that's just anti Semitic,
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  Speaker 1: isn't it. It might be funny, yeah, and it's animitic.
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  Speaker 3: It's funny because from everyone I've spoken to off the record,
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  Speaker 3: left and right, no one likes say Pek. No one
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  Speaker 3: thinks they're particularly effective. But they've become this boogeyman because
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  Speaker 3: they represent Israel and.
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  Speaker 4: The Jews to these people who don't know any better.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, so, with seventy seven million people having voted for
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump, I think the vast majority of them are
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  Speaker 1: serious about national security. Don't listen to Tucker, don't listen
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  Speaker 1: to candas don't listen Fante. I don't think Megan's in
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  Speaker 1: the same grouping. I don't listen enough to know, But
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  Speaker 1: I just don't think podcasters represent political.
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  Speaker 2: Party, but elected people do.
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  Speaker 1: And the Democrats with nominations and the Democrats who voted
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  Speaker 1: for Bernie Sanders cutting off aid to Israel, those people
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  Speaker 1: are just anti jew And it seems to me I
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  Speaker 1: want the commentary people to step up to the plate
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  Speaker 1: and say they're anti Semitic, non anti Zionists.
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  Speaker 4: They're always very careful.
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  Speaker 3: This is what I used to work at commentary, and
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  Speaker 3: I didn't quite fit in there because they're very formal,
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  Speaker 3: and they're very careful, and they're very guarded. That's never
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  Speaker 3: how I've been, so I understand that that's sort of
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  Speaker 3: they're being very cautious in that regard.
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  Speaker 10: I'm not.
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  Speaker 3: I think one of the more disturbing things that I've
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  Speaker 3: seen recently with Senator Chris Murphy's tweet, I think it
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  Speaker 3: was yesterday basically cheering on the Iranians against our government.
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  Speaker 4: That was one of the most disturbing things that I've
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  Speaker 4: ever seen.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't think you can really argue the fact
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  Speaker 3: that they are anti Semitic they are anti Zionists. They
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  Speaker 3: want the state of Israel to cease to exist. That's
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  Speaker 3: why so many of them have voted against defensive weaponry
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  Speaker 3: for Israel, because they don't care if Israel is able
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  Speaker 3: to defend itself, which, by the way, there are tens
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  Speaker 3: of millions of American citizens who live and visit Israel
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  Speaker 3: every single year.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I just think, if you're an American Jew, you've
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: got to wake up. The Democratic Party is not your friend.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: They're never going to be your friends. Chris Murphy Afterday
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: got he wrote awesome on a tweet about the number
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: of ranning ships that had it alluded the blockade. He
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: was caught up within the hall, by the way, I
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: invited it, and beyond the show today we heard nothing
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: back cut number five Shock.
• 16:43
  Speaker 11: Twitter has become kind of assesspool. I probably should give
• 16:46
  Speaker 11: up on sarcathric on Twitter.
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: Obviously.
• 16:48
  Speaker 11: Anybody that's seen anything that I have said about Trump's
• 16:52
  Speaker 11: war knows that I think it's bungled, mismanaged. You should
• 16:55
  Speaker 11: end it as quickly as possible. But sarcasm is not something.
• 16:59
  Speaker 11: I guess it's allowed on Twitter any longer.
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: Do you regret the posts?
• 17:02
  Speaker 11: Are you planning on taking it down or you can
• 17:04
  Speaker 11: keep that out. I mean, I guess I just have
• 17:05
  Speaker 11: to be more careful about sarcasm on Twitter.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Do you think it was sarcasm, beth Any when he
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: wrote awesome that Iranian ships were getting past the blockade.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: I don't think that they have, but that's what he said.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: The problem for Twitter with a lot of these public
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: figures and politicians is that they don't have their staff
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: mitigating their mouths, and so he meant what he said,
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: and I think now he regrets it because it was
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: anti American and he's basically rooting against our country because
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: he's decided that that's the best way to get you
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: to gotcha, Donald Trump. But this, I mean, this was
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: a problem for Jim Comey. Also, there's so many people
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: in the public eye that we've really gotten disturbing look
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: into the insides under the hood when they've had Twitter
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: in their pockets because they can open their phone and
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: just say what they think without a filter. And Chris
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Murphy is apparently one of those people that deeply he's
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: a filter.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: He used to be the kind of guy thought who
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: might be a good majority leader minority leader someday. Now
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: I think he's just got Israel on the brain. Let
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: me close by asking you, what is your opinion that
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: President Trump's extending the seas fire for a period of
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: time to see if the Iranians can get an offer together.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: I'm a little confused by it, honestly. I there's no
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: real endgame insight. I'm sort of like in Trump I trust.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: There's been so many instances when it comes to foreign
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: policy where what he's done didn't make sense, and then
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: afterwards when something happens, when he does something, you're like, ah,
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: now it all does.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: I'm hoping this is one of those moments.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: But to me, it feels like he's allowing the Iranians
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: to do what they do best, which is run out
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: the clock and keep the accountability at bay.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Well, yesterday the United States Navy did grab a tanker
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: that the Iranians had in their shadow fleet with two
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: million barrels of oil on it. Moreover, no oil is
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: getting out, and they're about to top off their tanks
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: and their their whole system gets screwed up. I think
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: he's counting on the economics of the situation and become unendurable.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: At least that's what I hope for Bethane Bandal.
• 19:13
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• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Back, Thank you, Hewittt.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Sarah Bedford is with The Washington Examiner where she hits
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: up their investigations and as their senior editor, Sarah, what
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: is going on in the House and the Senate about
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: the reconciliation process?
• 19:40
  Speaker 12: Well, right now things are getting started. In the Senate.
• 19:43
  Speaker 12: Leader John Soon wants to do what Republicans are calling
• 19:46
  Speaker 12: a skinny reconciliation bill. Right they just want a long
• 19:50
  Speaker 12: term funding deal for the parts of ion CBP that
• 19:53
  Speaker 12: do immigration enforcement. That's the part of DHS that's still
• 19:58
  Speaker 12: shut down. That is the sticking point in the back
• 20:01
  Speaker 12: and forth with Democrats. The problem for Thune is that
• 20:04
  Speaker 12: he has Republican members of his conference who want to
• 20:09
  Speaker 12: add stuff to that reconciliation bill, I think correctly sensing
• 20:13
  Speaker 12: that this is potentially the only vehicle that is guaranteed
• 20:17
  Speaker 12: to get through.
• 20:17
  Speaker 13: Both chambers of Congress.
• 20:19
  Speaker 12: There is no guarantee that a second or third reconciliation
• 20:21
  Speaker 12: bill will come down the line. So you have Ted Cruz,
• 20:24
  Speaker 12: for example, wanting things like potentially tax cuts included in
• 20:28
  Speaker 12: the vehicle. You have Senator Tommy Tuberville who wants to
• 20:31
  Speaker 12: see supplemental funding for the Iran war.
• 20:34
  Speaker 13: In that vehicle. You have other members who want.
• 20:36
  Speaker 12: To see parts of the Save Act stuck onto it.
• 20:39
  Speaker 12: And so for Thune, the challenge will be to just
• 20:42
  Speaker 12: unify the conference around this idea that getting ICE funded
• 20:47
  Speaker 12: right now is the most important thing, and assuring them
• 20:51
  Speaker 12: and having people trust him that another reconciliation vehicle will
• 20:54
  Speaker 12: be coming now.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I'm of the opinion we're not going to get a
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: second bite at the apple, and that they want to
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: get anything done, especially on military spending. They got to
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: do it now. Who I mean, where is the balance
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: of power lay on this? They've got to get every
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: vote in the House. Basically they've got a momentarily a
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: passing extra vote because of the resignation yesterday. But they
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: got to get everyone. They lose Massy, so they got
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: to keep everyone. Would everyone support defense spending?
• 21:25
  Speaker 12: I think defense spending is not what's going to be
• 21:27
  Speaker 12: controversial here. What's going to be controversial I think is
• 21:30
  Speaker 12: what's not going to end up in the Reconciliation bill,
• 21:33
  Speaker 12: which is parts of the Save Act, which is trying
• 21:36
  Speaker 12: to get more legislative wins for conservatives into that reconciliation bill,
• 21:41
  Speaker 12: with the recognition that this could be the only chance
• 21:44
  Speaker 12: to notch legislative wins before the midterms for Republicans, and
• 21:48
  Speaker 12: given everything that went down in Virginia last night with
• 21:50
  Speaker 12: the redistricting, the writing is on the wall. The Houses
• 21:54
  Speaker 12: is gone for Republicans come November, and so they are
• 21:57
  Speaker 12: running out of chances to do something. So you're going
• 21:59
  Speaker 12: to see the press sure turned up, especially for conservatives
• 22:03
  Speaker 12: who want to see some of those wins.
• 22:04
  Speaker 13: And you ask where the balance of power is.
• 22:06
  Speaker 12: I do think it's with some of those hardline conservative
• 22:09
  Speaker 12: members who want to see stuff added to the reconciliation bill.
• 22:12
  Speaker 12: The White House wants to see a so called skinny
• 22:15
  Speaker 12: reconciliation bill.
• 22:16
  Speaker 13: Leadership wants to see that.
• 22:18
  Speaker 12: But with the margin so small, those conservative lawmakers do
• 22:21
  Speaker 12: have more leverage to push to try to get things
• 22:24
  Speaker 12: added to the bill.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: At the end of the day, though, they either get
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: something or they get nothing, and I hope they will
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: go for the Defense spending. Let me turn the redistricting
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at the hill right now. Funny headline. Republicans
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: warned Desantus Florida redistricting push fought with peril. I actually
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: don't know any Republican who is warning about that. I
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: know every Republican, actually every Republican I talked to wants
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Florida to go ahead. After last night's vote in Virginia.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: What are you hearing, Yeah, the.
• 22:55
  Speaker 13: Same as you.
• 22:55
  Speaker 12: There's not a lot of reluctance now for Florida to
• 22:58
  Speaker 12: go ahead.
• 22:59
  Speaker 13: There's a reason that.
• 23:00
  Speaker 12: DeSantis delayed this, you know. It was said that it
• 23:03
  Speaker 12: was to give his team more time to draw maps.
• 23:05
  Speaker 12: I think it was probably because the Florida Republicans wanted
• 23:09
  Speaker 12: to just hold out and see how Virginia went before
• 23:11
  Speaker 12: they pulled the trigger on this. But seeing what happened
• 23:14
  Speaker 12: in Virginia, what happened in California, and how easy it
• 23:17
  Speaker 12: has been for Democrats to escalate the redistricting war, it
• 23:21
  Speaker 12: should be politically more palatable for Republicans in Florida to
• 23:25
  Speaker 12: move ahead with this. You saw some hesitation last year
• 23:28
  Speaker 12: when it was Indiana's turn, and the Indiana State Legislature
• 23:31
  Speaker 12: bulked at doing.
• 23:32
  Speaker 13: It, But that was a different time. The stakes were lower.
• 23:35
  Speaker 12: The Virginia redistricting situation, which now makes Virginia one of
• 23:38
  Speaker 12: the most heavily jerrymandered states in the country, that hadn't
• 23:43
  Speaker 12: happened yet, and so now the calculus has probably changed
• 23:46
  Speaker 12: for Republicans. What's left to lose for Republicans in redistricting Florida.
• 23:50
  Speaker 13: I don't think.
• 23:51
  Speaker 12: There's a lot of risk there, but there's a lot
• 23:54
  Speaker 12: of upshot for sure for Republicans.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Now that's a complicated question. If I were the governor,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I would want to wake to see what the Supreme
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Court says about the Voting Rights Act Section five case
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: out of Louisiana Calais. I believe it's called if they
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: strike down Section five, there's a good reason to have
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: to redistrict every single state that has a max black
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: district that is put in there by virtue of the
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: operation of Section five. I think Section five on constitutional
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: has been since it was passed. But maybe they'll get
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: around to that. Do you think they'll wait for the
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: court because the Court's got liberal justices are dragging their
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: feet on their descents because they don't want the decision
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: to get out there, just like Dobbs.
• 24:36
  Speaker 13: Right, and time is running out.
• 24:37
  Speaker 12: I mean they have till at the latest, till the
• 24:40
  Speaker 12: end of June, but that is really cutting it close
• 24:42
  Speaker 12: for drawing these districts that members would then have five
• 24:46
  Speaker 12: months to run in and without knowing the boundaries, that's
• 24:48
  Speaker 12: just not really workable. There's partisan redistricting that can still
• 24:52
  Speaker 12: be done regardless of weather Section two of the Voting
• 24:55
  Speaker 12: Rights Act gets struck down. Then you might be able
• 24:58
  Speaker 12: to go even further in states like Georgia and Florida
• 25:01
  Speaker 12: because of the racial redistricting requirements being lifted. But even
• 25:06
  Speaker 12: without the favorable outcome in that case, there is still
• 25:10
  Speaker 12: room in Florida and other Republican led states to draw
• 25:14
  Speaker 12: maps just based on partisanship, and they could go even
• 25:18
  Speaker 12: further if they do get that favorable VRA Act, but
• 25:21
  Speaker 12: there's really no incentive to wait at.
• 25:22
  Speaker 13: This point now.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: It is also my belief that the title charts of
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: American politics flow heavily against the in Party in the
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: sixth year of a presidency. The sixth year of Donald
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Trump's presidency, almost inevitably, in the sixth year, you lose
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: seats if you lose any seats the House flips over
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: to the Democrats. Is that what you see happening? And
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: if that happens, how certain is an impeachment two or
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: three likely to occur?
• 25:48
  Speaker 12: It was likely that the House was going to flip
• 25:51
  Speaker 12: to Democrats before any of the redistricting wars happened, just
• 25:55
  Speaker 12: because historically the party in power does tend to suffer
• 25:59
  Speaker 12: in the and because there was almost no padding for Republicans.
• 26:03
  Speaker 12: I mean, their majority was just so small that even
• 26:05
  Speaker 12: the slightest political breeze would have tipped it to Democrats.
• 26:08
  Speaker 12: And it's not shaping up to be a favorable year
• 26:10
  Speaker 12: for Republicans, so you were probably going to have headwinds
• 26:13
  Speaker 12: that were stronger than a breeze. That being said, it
• 26:16
  Speaker 12: still looks likely or at least possible, that Republicans could
• 26:20
  Speaker 12: retain the Senate, but impeachments are absolutely.
• 26:22
  Speaker 13: On the table.
• 26:23
  Speaker 12: You already have Democrats like Graham Plattner, who is going
• 26:26
  Speaker 12: to be the likely Democratic nominee for Senate in Maine,
• 26:29
  Speaker 12: saying that's one of his top priorities if he gets
• 26:32
  Speaker 12: to Washington is to investigate potentially impeach Trump, and even.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Conservative quick question Grand Platner's nuts. I mean he's crazy.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Do you think you can actually win? I don't mean
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: that he's a left winger, I mean he's nuts. Do
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: you think he can win.
• 26:50
  Speaker 13: In a favorable year for Democrats? Yeah, I think he's
• 26:52
  Speaker 13: got a shot.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: All Right, You and I to operate on that.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: I think Saint Susan Collins, I'm sure run a good.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Ray Shelley does she raise a lot of money. But Platner,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: it's just nuts.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: And Maine cares about lobster regulations and appropriations.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: They're not going to shoot themselves in the foot. Stay tuned, America.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Sarah Bedford follow her on Extra Charity.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Bedford will be right back on the excuse you as
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: show At this time we normally just talk Warren peace,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: but I want to ask you a political question before
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: we go to IRAW. Jim Tallan Virginia screwed Republicans last night.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: We're going to go from six D and five R
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: to ten D and one R under the new maps.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: And now Florida asked to decide what to do. There
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: are twenty Republicans, eight Democrats. Why not just put all
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: your chips in the middle and get for twenty eight
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Republicans because if we lose the House, you know, we
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: lost the housand until twenty thirty, why not go about
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: trying to win.
• 27:48
  Speaker 14: Well, I don't see any reason not to, especially since
• 27:50
  Speaker 14: redisserting is an inherently political and partisan process. And anybody
• 27:56
  Speaker 14: who's who's pretended it was anything but that doesn't know
• 28:00
  Speaker 14: what they're talking about. Now, what I would say you is,
• 28:03
  Speaker 14: for the sake of good government, I would not draw
• 28:08
  Speaker 14: district lines that make it impossible to represent a district.
• 28:11
  Speaker 14: I mean, I looked at the Virginia map. You're driving
• 28:15
  Speaker 14: all the way across the state of Virginia to get
• 28:17
  Speaker 14: from one end to the district to another, with twenty
• 28:21
  Speaker 14: or thirty different counties, forty or fifty different municipalities. I
• 28:24
  Speaker 14: wouldn't go that far. But I go ahead and for
• 28:29
  Speaker 14: I do for brower seats.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I don't care if they have to drive on the
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: ninety five or the five or whatever that is. I
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: would make them drive a thousand miles if they had
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: doing Florida to connect up a Democrat.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Well, I uh, I want to win my biggest the view.
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: Of a guy who had to do it for eight years.
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: So maybe That's where I'm coming from. That's why I
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: never ever wanted to run.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: That's why John Campbell got out. Now, Congressman Senator talent.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Iran is either run by five guys or one guy
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: or twenty guys.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: We don't know our intelligence agents. You might know something.
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: We're grabbing their ships on the ocean. We picked up
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: two one by, We captured an oil tanker yesterday. They
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: got no income coming in. This is an untenable situation
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: for them. Does the president just wait or does he
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: turn the bombers back on?
• 29:20
  Speaker 14: Well, that's my read is the same as yours. I
• 29:22
  Speaker 14: was glad he extended the ceasefire. It gives the blockade
• 29:25
  Speaker 14: more time to work. Well, again, you look at the context.
• 29:29
  Speaker 14: So the out the political object of this from the
• 29:31
  Speaker 14: beginning was to force them in a position where they
• 29:34
  Speaker 14: had two options. Either they basically essentially surrender on our terms,
• 29:39
  Speaker 14: or the regime collapses. So first, we used the military
• 29:43
  Speaker 14: tool very very effectively, as the one hundred and fifty
• 29:46
  Speaker 14: ships of their navy in the bottom of the Persian
• 29:48
  Speaker 14: Gulf can testify. Now, we're squeezing economically, and they opened
• 29:52
  Speaker 14: the door to that because they threatened the strait. So
• 29:55
  Speaker 14: then we turned around, said, well, blockade, and we're combining
• 29:58
  Speaker 14: that with the dip somatic tool, not just at the
• 30:01
  Speaker 14: negotiating table, but indeed.
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: Throughout the whole region.
• 30:04
  Speaker 14: So the president wants to see if they're willing to
• 30:07
  Speaker 14: cry uncle yet. If they don't, yeah, I think we'll
• 30:11
  Speaker 14: probably go back to the military tool. And I think
• 30:14
  Speaker 14: I said to you before, I'm still waiting to see
• 30:17
  Speaker 14: cyber They've probably been doing some things, but I'm still
• 30:23
  Speaker 14: waiting to see the visible use of the cyber tools.
• 30:27
  Speaker 14: See what we can do with that.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: You know, I think we have it in our ability
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: to shut down the banking system. I think we can
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: make atm stop and at some point we don't want
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: to hurt the people of Iran, but at some point
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: chaos becomes our friend inside of Iran. I read again,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: it's the post it on X So take it for
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: what it's worth. That one hundred members of the besiege
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: were poisoned today in Tehran. One of them died. This
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: sort of stuff is going to keep going on. That
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: regime must be close to cracking wide open, don't you think.
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well I'm vr cracking.
• 31:05
  Speaker 14: You remember you when the protesters were out in January.
• 31:08
  Speaker 14: You had some great interviews and people said, well, there's
• 31:12
  Speaker 14: a lot of the factors that lead to regime overthrow there,
• 31:16
  Speaker 14: But what did they say was missing?
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: They said regime fracture.
• 31:20
  Speaker 14: Right, so we obviously have regime fracture. And I listen
• 31:25
  Speaker 14: to people I respect, but like Neil Ferguson and others
• 31:29
  Speaker 14: say well, now we have this hardliner in charge of
• 31:32
  Speaker 14: and he's in charge of the iERG. How do we
• 31:34
  Speaker 14: know he's in charge of the whole IRG? You think
• 31:37
  Speaker 14: these civilians, like the Speaker of the Parliament and the
• 31:40
  Speaker 14: finance minister, you think they don't have contacts with local
• 31:43
  Speaker 14: iergy leaders you know, captains, majors and the rest of it.
• 31:47
  Speaker 14: Do you think they aren't offering deals?
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: You know, I hear Sir Ferguson, I'm the good fellas.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: I listened to him, and I just want to reach
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: through the microphon say what do you call a group
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: of people that got down thirty five thousand people in January?
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Are they soft or are they hardliners?
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: How much more hardline could the regime be than it
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: was in January?
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 32:10
  Speaker 14: I thought Mark Dubowitz had a good response on Twitter.
• 32:14
  Speaker 14: It's amazing how you read columns on Twitter now. But
• 32:16
  Speaker 14: that's that's me. I'm an old guy yelling at.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: The clean to know that too.
• 32:22
  Speaker 14: Yeah, this is this is moving through the very What
• 32:26
  Speaker 14: you are seeing is the coordinated use of different tools
• 32:30
  Speaker 14: of power, military, economic. You know, we're also tightening the sanctions.
• 32:34
  Speaker 14: You've heard what Scott Pascenta said. And by the way,
• 32:38
  Speaker 14: I don't think they're processing their financial transactions through the
• 32:41
  Speaker 14: banks in Dubai as well as they were before they
• 32:46
  Speaker 14: bombed all their neighbors.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: So what the president is doing is.
• 32:50
  Speaker 14: He's squeezing and seeing what happens, and he knows me.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Ask you about next you went?
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: You did not serve with Chris Murphy from Connecticut to
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: New uh two days ago, somebody had posted twenty ships
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: got through the blockade, And on top of that, Chris
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Murphy wrote awesome exclamation point, which was interpreted broadly as
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: being rooting for the enemy, and he explained today that
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: it was sarcasm.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Do you believe him?
• 33:22
  Speaker 14: Well, it did sound a little bit like something a
• 33:26
  Speaker 14: desperate comms person might tell you. You could say, to
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  Speaker 14: pivot away from the question, I bet he regrets having
• 33:32
  Speaker 14: sent it. I think he's been bit by the presidential bugs,
• 33:36
  Speaker 14: so I tend to give him a little bit of
• 33:38
  Speaker 14: a pass and all that. But look, and you've been
• 33:41
  Speaker 14: talking a lot today about the elections.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: This is just an example.
• 33:45
  Speaker 14: I mean, there's Democrats are taking a lot of positions
• 33:48
  Speaker 14: publicly that I.
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: Myself would not want to run on.
• 33:52
  Speaker 14: You know, one of them is sounding sympathetic to I
• 33:54
  Speaker 14: run you bad.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: But there's others as well.
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad you noticed that. It's I've noticed that.
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  Speaker 1: Did you ever run against the Democratic for the good
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  Speaker 1: things about terrorists?
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  Speaker 13: No?
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  Speaker 14: No, I wish I wish I had had an opponent
• 34:08
  Speaker 14: like that. I might still be in the Senate. I mean, look,
• 34:12
  Speaker 14: and thenbody's talking about the elections. There's a target rich
• 34:15
  Speaker 14: environment out there, especially I mean for Republicans. And you know,
• 34:20
  Speaker 14: I'm cautioning everybody, let's wait to see till we actually
• 34:23
  Speaker 14: get in the campaign. Okay, now, yeah, I want to
• 34:25
  Speaker 14: get the oil. I want to get the gas prices
• 34:27
  Speaker 14: back to what they were. I'm not an oil man.
• 34:30
  Speaker 14: I got to believe when this is resolved, and it's
• 34:33
  Speaker 14: going to be resolved one way or another, pretty soon,
• 34:35
  Speaker 14: they'll settle back down and then we can run on
• 34:38
  Speaker 14: the things that have been accomplished over the last fifteen months.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: And I think you can run on defeating the leading
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: state sponsor of terror in the world as well. I
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: think that's a Colin card Reagan would have liked. Mike Summons,
• 34:50
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  Speaker 1: Grace America. As promised. Dana Prino is in the house. Dana,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: of course, you see her every morning on Fox News.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: And now you can read not her great new book,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: but her great new.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Novel, Purple State. Now Purple State is fabulous.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: And this is not got Hugh Hewitt's demographic written all
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: over it. But I'm here to tell you it is
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: entertaining as can be, even for an old guy. And
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Dana welcome congratulations, your first novel, right.
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: Yes, yes, my first. I loved it. I love how
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: it turned out, and I'm really grateful to be on
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: your show because it might not be your demographic when
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: you look at it, but I do think people from
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: all walks of life seem.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: To like it.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, I tell everyone, it's a rom com that meets
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: the books of My youth, Dark Horse by Fletcher Nebel
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: or Advise and Consent by Alan Drury.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: You're too young to remember those, but there's enough.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's enough real politics in here along with the
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: fun stuff that and I'll come to that in a moment.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: But my very first question, this has got to be
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: a major motion picture. This has got to be option
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: because you've got three young women roles, you've got three
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: young men roles.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: You've got some great older character actors who would want
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: to be in this. Has it already been picked up?
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: No? No, I mean that's a dream. Maybe it happens.
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: I don't know. But when somebody asked me, like, who
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: would play these young characters in the movie, Hugh, I
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: don't know the young actresses and actors anymore, but I
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: did think that Rob Lowe could play the farmer mister Taylor.
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: I think he'd be perfect.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Just one explain to people. We have three New York
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: City girls. They are the Blue Girls, and we have
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: got three potential Wisconsin men. They're the Red Men, and
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: a cop, a bartender, and Danny, who is going to
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: be the hero.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Of the movie.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: I think now, Dan, I should tell you I did
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: not finish the book, because I never finished a novel,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: whether it's Danny Silva or Brad Thorpe, because I don't
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: want to give it away. But I did get far
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: enough into it to take the Wisconsin quiz with the
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: fetching missus Hewett who's been trying to grab it from
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: me for two weeks that I've had it. And before
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: I go to the Wisconsin quiz, how in the world
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: you're a Wyoming girl, New York girl, do you see girl?
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: And you've been all over the world. How did you
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: learn about Wisconsin?
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: So it's a great question. In twenty twenty four, you
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: were at the RNC convention, right, yep. So we were
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: in Milwaukee, and I asked. I paid this young woman
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: who used to work for Mike Gallagher to take me
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: around the state for forty eight hours. After the convention finished.
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: So we went from Milwaukee to Economa, walk up to
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: Green Bay, down back through Lake Winnebago. We went to
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: Pulaski Day's Polka thing and the last place we went
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: we arrived and she said, I think this is going
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: to be the place that you set the book in.
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: And it was called Cedarburg, Wisconsin. It's a northwestern not
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: at quite a suburb, but just northwest of Milwaukee. So
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: I spent forty eight hours there. That was the place
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: Cedar Falls is. The name of the town is really
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: based on Cedarburgh. And then I went back in September,
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: and I went back one more time at Christmas time
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: so I could get a feel for the place, and
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: it's idyllic. I really love the town and I've always
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: I've always loved the people that I meet from Wisconsin.
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: They're wonderful people.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: Oh except for Gallagher. I saw Gallagher last week.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: He's very obnoxious about the packers, as is everyone is
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: from Wisconsin is obnoxious about the packer. So I will
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: tell Gallagher his staffer is responsible for a fat be
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: a List book.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: All right now.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: I asked my producer Dwayne to be standing by because
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: I wanted to take the Wisconsin quiz. I gave this
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: to the fetching missus Hewett as I was reading your book.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: It's on page one oh seven, and she failed miserably.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: She was over four.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: So I thought we would use Dwayne on the Wisconsin
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: quick Dwayne named the cheese that was invented in Wisconsin,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: but sounds like a European country.
• 40:25
  Speaker 10: That sounds like European country.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Guda too eight Swiss number two. That was the easy one.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: By the way, in what Wisconsin city was Splinter free
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: toilet paper first?
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Made you no wrong? Green Bay?
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, these dolls became collectibles and they have nothing to
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: do with cabbage patches.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Too late American girl dolls.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: And then finally, the final question named the circus that
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: launched in the Badger State.
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  Speaker 2: Ooh, it's not to lay.
• 41:03
  Speaker 10: Maybe its lay.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: No, it's not.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: You're over four, like the vetching missus Sewett Wringling Brothers.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Has anyone passed the quiz yet, Dana Perno.
• 41:12
  Speaker 10: I don't think Wisconsin.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: It's kind of a tough quiz, especially if you're not
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: from Wisconsin. Butt the splinter free toilet paper. That one
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: caught my attention. I was like, wow, that's a great invention.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Actually, well, everybody knows stuff about their home state, and
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: you got me thinking, in fact, that someone's got to
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: do a podcast on hometowns because everybody knows their hometown
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: better than anything. Let's go with the premise so that
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: people understand what the hook is. We have three young
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: ladies who are all working in New York.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: We've got Mary.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: The lawyer, Harper's the lawyer, Mary is the teacher, and
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Dot is in advertising.
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: You want to give a little you had it right
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: the first time. Mary's a lawyer, Harper.
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: Marry is the lawyer.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, give them a little bit of a run of
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: each of the characters. Dot's the big Okay.
• 42:01
  Speaker 6: I think of Dot Clark probably the most like me.
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: She starts off her career in public relations, and she
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: chose high tech PR because she thought she could shoot
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: up the ladder that way, that's where all the money was,
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: and she wanted to be a part of a big
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: PR firm. She starts working there and it's not great,
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: and she's also in a relationship that she doesn't really
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: want to be in and he's about to propose. Then
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: her good friend Mary Russo. She's from Staten Island, surprised everyone.
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: She went to law school and now she's working in
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: corporate law and she's thinking, is this all there is?
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: I'm just like working here to make money, to help
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: other people make money. And then Harper is very much
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: a reader, a dreamer, and she follows an influencer to Africa.
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: She thought she would live this amazing international life. She
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: gets dumped and now they're all in this quarter life crisis.
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: And Dot gets an opportunity to do something she thought
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: she might want to do all along, which is politics,
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: and she convinces that two to go with her. Where
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: a super pack is paying for Democrats to go to
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: all of these purple states to try to flip them
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: so that they could finally win the electoral College, and
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: that's when romance ensues.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: By the way, it is a completely believable premise.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: That's what I thought.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: The book makes so much sense. Because the superpacks are growing.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: They do try and plant volunteers in the seven swing states.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Wisconsin is among the swingiest and getting people to go
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: to Wisconsin may be the most difficult. Michigan might be harder,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: but I mean they got to go to the far North.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: They got to get acclimated. The good news about this book.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: They're main characters the trio of girls. They're way too.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Young to be my daughter, and they're way too old
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: to be my granddaughter.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: So I'm not emotionally invested in this and the lifestyle
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: that they leave. How did you investigate the lifestyle of
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: the twenty five year old New York Manhattan girl although
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: they're Staten Island and queens thrown in the air, but
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: they're Manhattan girl.
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: Well, so, I've lived in New York for fifteen years,
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: I was in DC before that. I grew up in
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: Wyoming and Colorado. So the subplot about saving the family
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: farms that meant a lot to me. But Hugh, if
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: I didn't have my two shows, I could literally spend
• 44:16
  Speaker 6: my entire day mentoring young women of this age, either
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: ones that work here at Fox News or around News
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: Court or my friend's daughters hurt, their nieces, their granddaughters
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: all day long. I could do it. So when I
• 44:29
  Speaker 6: wrote Everything Will Be Okay, which you were generous enough
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: to have me on to talk about, that was all
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: my mentoring advice in one place. When I told my
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: editor about Purple State, I said, think of everything will
• 44:40
  Speaker 6: be okay, and a fictionalized version, And that's where I'm
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: trying to show young women. First of all, you're born
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: in America. You won life's great lottery. Everybody would want
• 44:49
  Speaker 6: to trade places with you if they weren't born in America.
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: Number two, you're educated, you're loved by your families. So
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: all you have to decide is what do you want
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: to do? And you can't afford to take risks. But
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: the the most important thing is to realize that you
• 45:02
  Speaker 6: wrote out a plan for your life. If it's not happening,
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: that means that you have to let go, not hold
• 45:09
  Speaker 6: on to it tighter. Trust in God, trust in yourself,
• 45:14
  Speaker 6: and open your eyes and your ears and your heart.
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: Because the ultimate lesson in this book to me is
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: a lesson in good decision making, and that choosing to
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: be loved is not a career limiting decision. It can
• 45:29
  Speaker 6: make all the difference about for your happiness as it
• 45:32
  Speaker 6: is for me.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Well, there's a life lesson right at the beginning, which
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: is if you have doubts and you see the guy
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: go into Tiffany's run and it's not going to work
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: out well, and good to have girls like that. By
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: the way, Harper, the teacher at the elite school who
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: gets propositioned by the that's really the only one who's
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: kind of a mess up. The other two have got
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: it together, but Harper's kind of betwixt in between.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Right. How many young ladies do you run into like
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: that in Manhattan?
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: That not that many. I'll be obviously here working at Fox,
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: and not that many. But I have a lot of friends.
• 46:08
  Speaker 6: They have friends, and also it is fiction. I kind
• 46:10
  Speaker 6: of make them up. But the stories about private schools
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: here in New York and the things that go on there,
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: that's very realistic. Oh like when the parents are complaining
• 46:21
  Speaker 6: to her because their son got to be and they say, well,
• 46:24
  Speaker 6: the helicopter got stuck in the Hamptons. But you actually
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: hear things like that in this crazy place.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: There are also things in the book about debates. There's
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: a candidate debate early on, maybe about Paige one hundred,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: which is just on the nose. I will come back
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: and talk to you about Kitty, who's also on the nose.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: It's a wonderful read. Purple State by Dana Prino. I'll
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: be right back with Dana. Don't go anywhere in America.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to America. That's Sabrina Carpenter, who's in.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: The Purple State book by my guest Dana Prino, which
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: is really a fun read. Let's get the Kitty Kitty
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: runs for the Win, which by the way, is a
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: great name for a super pack. If it isn't taken
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: out there for the win, she will get a bonus
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: if they win with short of Shocks dot And I
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: thought to myself at that point, Dan's lived in the
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: curtain a little bit here on politics.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Do you think many people know about that?
• 47:24
  Speaker 7: I don't.
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: And actually you mentioned purple sas dark money and everything.
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: Think of what just happened in Virginia yesterday where the
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: Democrats were able to pull off the big redistricting caper.
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: Ninety nine of the one hundred million dollars that was
• 47:40
  Speaker 6: spent was from dark money. That means that you don't
• 47:43
  Speaker 6: have to disclose where it's from. And these win bonuses
• 47:46
  Speaker 6: are very real, and I don't think a lot of
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: people realize that. So when's you wonder why there's a
• 47:52
  Speaker 6: super pac for everything?
• 47:54
  Speaker 13: Now?
• 47:55
  Speaker 6: One is dark money, and two there's a financial incentive if.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: You win, and there's a lot of money slashing around.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Let me quickly run through it's a presidential cycle.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: There's a debate.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: One of the first debates is being held in Cedar Falls.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: We've got Virgil Penfield is good for comic relief, cal Ashby,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: it's Gavin Newsom.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: We've got the vegan mayor from Newark.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Isaiah Grant. That's actually going to be Pete Pootage. I
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: guess senator to test Dan for a front week.
• 48:20
  Speaker 6: Corey Booker, Oh.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: Corey Booker.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, well it was the vegan mayor, so I was
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: thinking maybe South Bend. Oh okay, Okay, I didn't know
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Corey was. Began test Dan for. Is that Elizabeth Warren
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: stuck in? The team's not going anywhere? The Rocket guy the.
• 48:35
  Speaker 6: About it a shot of them.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: Tina Smith, Okay, she's so boring.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: And then we got Lucy Lopez who is AOC but
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: from Texas and dressed up a little bit AOC ish.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: When Kitty stands up, this is the best part of
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: the book in my opinion. Kitty stands up to give
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: the bus which has been organized for volunteers, and there's
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: a there's a summer about real Campbnson here that if
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: you don't know anything about campaigns, you'll learn in Purple State.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: She's going to give everyone insider knowledge.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: And I quote Dana Prina, everyone loves to feel like
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: they know something more than their friends and their neighbors. Now,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever read The Inner Ring
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: by CS Lewis, Dana or That Hideous Strength by C. S.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Lewis.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: It's all about the fact that there is no secret knowledge,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: but everybody likes to think they're on the inside, right,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: So that's what Kitty's selling.
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: Right, And if you think of if you think of
• 49:32
  Speaker 6: some of the podcasts on the left and on the
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: far left and the far right, that is what they're
• 49:38
  Speaker 6: trying to do, like they know something nobody else knows.
• 49:40
  Speaker 6: So yeah, there's currency and information. And I do love
• 49:44
  Speaker 6: that bus ride, especially when they say, you know, I
• 49:48
  Speaker 6: really liked the aging senator from Vermont. I vote for
• 49:51
  Speaker 6: him every time, and someone at the front of the
• 49:53
  Speaker 6: bus says, oh, you're the one. But in a way,
• 49:56
  Speaker 6: what I'm also trying to show people is you can
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: wear your politics a little bit lightly, still enjoy it,
• 50:02
  Speaker 6: be involved, participate, but it doesn't have to become your life.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: But the bus ride is fabulous.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: In fact, it might be my favorite Saint because it
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: is something that the campaign would do. I don't know
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: if you remember Iowa in two thousand and eight, John
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: McCain Mitt Romney. Mett Romney rented all the buses in Iowa.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: There were no buses in Iowa to rent, and it
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: was a pretty good trick, but it didn't work in
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: the final analysis. Let's talk about Danny Dawson, though you
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: really set this up. He walks into a bookstore. He
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: had sad but beautiful, dark brown eyes. A spark ran
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: up Dot's spine when she smiled at him. Sunglasses on
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: the top of his black hair, carhaut coat, workman's boots, jeans.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: He buys a book of poetry for the nurse who
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: took care of his mom, who died of breast cancer.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: When he was a junior in college, he was a
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Badger football player. His girlfriend, who was pregnant at the
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: time they're going to get married, was.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: Killed by a drunk driver. I mean, come on, Dana,
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: We're going to root for this guy all through the book,
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: aren't we.
• 51:03
  Speaker 6: And you know the other thing I did in the book,
• 51:05
  Speaker 6: that is it's a little subtle. But when Dot asks
• 51:10
  Speaker 6: about the person who was in the cause of the
• 51:13
  Speaker 6: car accident, the drunk driver, if he's in jail for murder,
• 51:16
  Speaker 6: and they say for two life sentences, Why because she
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: was pregnant and that was two lives. Yeah, that's not
• 51:23
  Speaker 6: the case in every state, but in Wisconsin it is true,
• 51:26
  Speaker 6: and I think it should be true everywhere. That would
• 51:28
  Speaker 6: be like there's a little bit of politics and my
• 51:30
  Speaker 6: point of view sprinkled in here and there.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: Well, I thought of the movie Welcome the Mooseport, which
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: I doubt you've ever seen.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: It's an old Gene Hackman. No, it sounds good, though,
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: Oh it's wonderful.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Gene Hackman's a former president who runs for mayor in
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: moose Boat. In Mooseport, and Harper at one point asks, well,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: let me ask you about the terrible hotels they stay in.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: Not terrible.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: I went and looked up in Cedar Falls whether there
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: was actually or in Madison, whether there was actually a
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: hotel by the name of mapland Maine, and there isn't.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: There is the Madike Madison Concourse and Governor's Club.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Though, uh were you? Did you make up? Maple and
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Maine is that just out of Nowork.
• 52:12
  Speaker 6: I did, and in fact, throughout the book, all through Cedarburgh.
• 52:15
  Speaker 6: One of my favorite things was coming up with the
• 52:17
  Speaker 6: great small business names. For example, Mimi's Bakery is called
• 52:23
  Speaker 6: flower Power. I think of the Thai restaurant, the Titanic.
• 52:30
  Speaker 6: I can't remember off the top of my head what
• 52:32
  Speaker 6: I called the nail salon and the hair salon, but
• 52:35
  Speaker 6: all of those types of small businesses. At in Cedarburgh, Wisconsin,
• 52:41
  Speaker 6: there is a beautiful main stre It's not main Street.
• 52:43
  Speaker 6: It's called Washington Avenue, but there are no national chains
• 52:47
  Speaker 6: on that street. And it's just a little bit of Americana,
• 52:50
  Speaker 6: a little bit Mayberry, but in a modern way. And
• 52:53
  Speaker 6: I love this town. In fact, I'll be going there
• 52:56
  Speaker 6: and throwing the town a party as we celebrate the
• 52:59
  Speaker 6: debut of Purple.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: I was wondering, if you're going to go do the
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: book launch there, I got I gotta tell the audience
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: that I gotta beware. On page one oh eight for
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: the one insider Wink Wink Bill Hammer from Fox. He's
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: my mom's favorite. Page one Oa did Hammer know that
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: was in there?
• 53:15
  Speaker 15: No?
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: No. I waited to see if he would find his
• 53:17
  Speaker 6: little Easter egg shout out. You know, I had a
• 53:19
  Speaker 6: reporter the other day ask me, because well, the next
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: line is your parents still watch Fox News, says twenty
• 53:26
  Speaker 6: four to seven. And a reporter said, did you write
• 53:30
  Speaker 6: that as a little dig at Fox News? And I said, no,
• 53:33
  Speaker 6: it's just reality. We hear it all the time. My
• 53:36
  Speaker 6: dad's your biggest fan. My grandmother never turns it off.
• 53:39
  Speaker 6: It's not like my nephew's your biggest fan. Like that
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: never happens.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: Right, So I want to.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: Ask you the hardest question. I'm not a novelist. I've
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: never even tried. Dialogue would defeat me. But I've written
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: fourteen books. You're a very good book writer. You write
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: these books, So why in the world do something completely
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: new and radical. It's gonna work, It's gonna be a
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: best seller because it's fun, and it appeals to a
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: lot of different demographics. And like I said, the miss
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: she was dying to read it. Now I'm done talking
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: to you. Why did you decide to do.
• 54:09
  Speaker 6: This lifelong dream? I never really thought that I could.
• 54:16
  Speaker 6: I never you know, you know when people think that
• 54:19
  Speaker 6: you have to take go to the Iowa and Iowa
• 54:24
  Speaker 6: was Iowa University yeah, and I've never done any of that.
• 54:31
  Speaker 6: I read novels voraciously. I love them, and I just
• 54:35
  Speaker 6: admire the craft so much. And it was a young
• 54:38
  Speaker 6: man named Andrew Graff. He's a wonderful author. He wrote
• 54:41
  Speaker 6: a book called Raft of Stars that I adored, and
• 54:44
  Speaker 6: when his second book came out, called True North, I
• 54:46
  Speaker 6: invited him to come to the independent bookstore that I
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: support in Point Pleasant Beach, New Jersey. And he said,
• 54:53
  Speaker 6: you said you had an idea for a book and
• 54:55
  Speaker 6: I said, I'm sure everyone.
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: Tells you that.
• 54:57
  Speaker 6: Let's not talk about that. Let's talk about something else.
• 55:00
  Speaker 6: He said, well, how long is this walk we're going on.
• 55:02
  Speaker 6: I said it's about three miles. He said, start talking.
• 55:05
  Speaker 6: And I told him my big grand idea was that
• 55:07
  Speaker 6: it was like a show where you had the DNC
• 55:10
  Speaker 6: put volunteers all over the country and it was just
• 55:14
  Speaker 6: too big of a story. And he said, wait, what
• 55:17
  Speaker 6: if it all came down to this one Jerrymander district
• 55:19
  Speaker 6: in Wisconsin? And for some reason I felt doable and
• 55:23
  Speaker 6: I loved it. Thank you so much, Thank you.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Herple State is for everyone who enjoys a good read,
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: a lot of laughs, some great characters, old young and
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: in between. Dana Prino, Congratulations on Deep Purple, Thanks good
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  Speaker 1: luck on the book tour. Be right back in the
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  Speaker 1: goods say too. Thank you for listening to highly concentrated Hugh.
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• 57:03
  Speaker 1: I'm you you at Crude Oil is at ninety three
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• 57:09
  Speaker 1: President of the American Petroleum Institute.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: API is where you go CEO.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: And President, i should say, of the American Petroleum Institute,
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: which is where you go when you want to find
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: out about oil in the future. Mike, thank you for
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: joining me with fun meeting him in the grain room
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: last week. I'm a lot easier interview than anybody else
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: that you spoke to. I really just want to know
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: what America should do right now to increase production and
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: move it faster to market.
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: Hugh.
• 57:37
  Speaker 15: Great to be with you, and I do think it's
• 57:40
  Speaker 15: important to remember how influential the President's energy dominance agenda
• 57:45
  Speaker 15: has been over the course of the last year.
• 57:48
  Speaker 10: This president came in as a.
• 57:50
  Speaker 15: Key supporter of oil and gas, and he immediately put
• 57:53
  Speaker 15: into place policies to increase production here in the United States.
• 57:58
  Speaker 15: That has meant more leasing on federal lands and in
• 58:02
  Speaker 15: federal waters, in particular the Gulf of America. It has
• 58:05
  Speaker 15: meant a regulatory agenda that has actually enhanced production here.
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: In the United States.
• 58:10
  Speaker 15: And it has meant a tax agenda that makes sense
• 58:13
  Speaker 15: for American consumers and the American oil and gas industry.
• 58:17
  Speaker 15: So the President really has put in a foundation of
• 58:21
  Speaker 15: energy dominance with his agenda that he has pursued since
• 58:25
  Speaker 15: he came back into office for the second time, and
• 58:27
  Speaker 15: that has provided this country an incredible insurance of policy.
• 58:31
  Speaker 10: When we went into.
• 58:32
  Speaker 15: Venezuela, when we went into Iran, prices here in the
• 58:35
  Speaker 15: United States haven't gone up nearly as much as they
• 58:38
  Speaker 15: have had as they have in the rest of the world.
• 58:41
  Speaker 15: And that is good news for American consumers. But of
• 58:44
  Speaker 15: course there's more to do.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: Let's focus on the more to do for a moment,
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: although there's the stuff we would have done anyway, and
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: then there's step on top of it. If we look
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: out twelve months, do you expect American production, both the
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: onshore and offshore to increase over the next twelve months.
• 59:03
  Speaker 10: Absolutely.
• 59:04
  Speaker 15: In fact, what you've seen already is when We've had
• 59:08
  Speaker 15: these lease sales, particularly in the state of Alaska, which
• 59:12
  Speaker 15: really became a wasteland during the Biden.
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: Administration, where there were no lease sales.
• 59:17
  Speaker 15: They actually canceled our ability to produce in the in
• 59:20
  Speaker 15: anwar the Alaska National Wildlife Refuge, and they fought the
• 59:24
  Speaker 15: Connaco Phillips company who wanted to produce in the National
• 59:28
  Speaker 15: Petroleum Reserve.
• 59:29
  Speaker 10: I mean, think about that for a minute.
• 59:31
  Speaker 15: It was called it's called the National Petroleum Reserve in Alaska,
• 59:34
  Speaker 15: and they fought the Willow Project from Conco Phillips tooth
• 59:38
  Speaker 15: and nail, and finally Conico was able to get this
• 59:42
  Speaker 15: done and they're working on getting oil produced there right now.
• 59:46
  Speaker 15: We're seeing increased lease sales in the Gulf of America
• 59:49
  Speaker 15: where under the Biden administration there wasn't one lease sale
• 59:53
  Speaker 15: in the Gulf of America in four years under the
• 59:56
  Speaker 15: Biden administration. So we are seeing increased productuction already. In
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 15: addition to that, the CEO of Halliburton just yesterday on
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 15: his earnings call said that they are starting to see
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 15: more production coming online. So I do think from where
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 15: we are today to compared to where we will be
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 15: a year from now, you're going to see increased production
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 15: in the United States.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 10: It certainly hasn't hurt.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 15: Also that prices are going up, and when you have
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 15: prices going up, you're going to have you see more
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 15: of an incentive to produce here at home.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: I asked your number two last week a couple of questions.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: I want to see if it's changed much. It's been
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: two weeks now. When the oil goes up from sixty
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: to ninety, like it has and hovers somewhere sometimes in
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: the eighties, sometimes in the ninety, briefly over one hundred,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: are there wells that suddenly become uncapped?
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, or is that a myth? They say?
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Other oil comes online? But I don't know how quickly
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: you can actually do that, even if you expect the
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: prices to stay high for three, four or six months.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 15: Yeah, so right now there are what we call drilled
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 15: but uncompleted wells.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 10: In the industry parlance, they're called ducks.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 15: So the truth is is that right now we don't
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 15: have a lot of drilled but uncompleted wells. That means
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 15: when they're completed, that's when they're actually producing.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 10: Oil and natural gas.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 15: So right now we don't have a huge inventory of
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 15: these ducks in the United States, So it is going
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 15: to require us a little bit more time to actually
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 15: get back into production mode, but there is significant incentive
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 15: to do that now. Better tax rates, better regulatory environment,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 15: and of course higher prices are going to induce producers
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 15: to produce more here in the United States at this time.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 15: And I do think, you know, we have to remember
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 15: that we're going to be dealing with elevated prices for
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 15: a while. You've essentially taken off about fifteen percent of
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 15: world demand right now because of what's going on in
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 15: the Strait of horror moves. And when you take off
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 15: that much production in that much supply, you're going to
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 15: have elevated price is for a short while. And I
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 15: do think that that is going to induce more production
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 15: here in the United States of America.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: Well, don't go anywhere America. I'm coming right back with
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: Mike Summers. You want to know what it's going to
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: cost to take the family across the country and the
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: station wagon. If families actually do that anymore, I don't know.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: But we all go driving in the summer, and I'm
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: going to ask them about the summer gas prediction.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: I also want to know about the Venezuela oil.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: I want about to know about the oil that the
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: United States caeses at sea. And I want to know
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: are we building the pipelines we need to build, and
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: is the permitting building to get through. Don't go anywhere,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: Mike Summers will be right.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: Back with me. You hew it on the Hugh Hewitt Show,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: Welcome Back in America. I'm Hugh Hewett.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: Mike Summers is the president and CEO of the American
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: Petroleum Institute, and API really is the go to source
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: for information on the entire American oil industry. But I
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: also wonder, Mike, about what we're doing in Venezuela and
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: whether any American companies are investing down there or is
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: it still too unstable to say, yeah, we're going.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: To make big bets in Venezuela. What do you know?
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 15: So when we went in to get Maduro on January third,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 15: the United States was only importing about one hundred and
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 15: fifty thousand barrels a day of Venezuelan crude. We're happy
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 15: to report that that number has gone up to over
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 15: four hundred thousand barrels of import into the United States.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 10: That is good news, and it's.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 15: Also evidence that the work that the President has done,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 15: from tax to regulatory to even these foreign actions are
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 15: benefiting American consumers at the pump. So imagine if we
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 15: didn't have that kind of oil coming in today, you
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 15: would be dealing with higher prices at the pump that
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 15: would be affecting the summer driving season. Prices are still
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 15: too darn high, but the fact that we're importing more
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 15: from Venezuela is good news. You put on top of
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 15: that increased American production that we can see in the
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 15: next few months or a year, I think that will
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 15: eventually work its way to American consumers and lower those
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 15: prices as we enter into the summer driving season.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: So, Mike, I lived in California from nineteen eighty nine
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: to twenty sixteen when I moved back to the Beltway,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: and I was always used to higher prices out there
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: because of the grewat things we've done. Now the Valaios
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: refinery is closing. What is California going to be like
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: this summer? They've lost another refinery, and I don't think
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: anyone wants to build a refinery in California anytime soon,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 15: Hugh, this is an absolute disaster for California consumers. The
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 15: truth of the matter is that the United States only
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 15: imports about eight percent of the oil that we use
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 15: from the Middle East, but in California it's thirty percent,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 15: So they're highly dependent on Middle Eastern oil for their
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 15: supply to those refineries that continue to operate in the state.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 15: In the last three years, they've already lost free refineries,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 15: with the Valerio refinery going offline sometime at the end
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 15: of April. And why are those refineries going out of business.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 15: It's not because there's not the demand for gasoline or
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 15: jet fuel in the state of California. It's because of
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 15: a regulatory environment in California that is making it impossible
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 15: for those refineries to make any money. So this is
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 15: a real concern, I think for California consumers. But a
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 15: bigger concern I think that all of America should have
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 15: is that it's a huge national security concern. We have
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 15: a lot of bases military bases in the state of California,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 15: and imagine a scenario where there was a disruption in
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 15: Asia and we weren't able to get the fuel that
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 15: we need in the Western United States because of these
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 15: refineries going offline.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 10: This has the potential to be a national.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 15: Security disaster for the United States in addition to being
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 15: an economic disaster for California consumers. So we have to
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 15: do something about refining capacity in California and fast.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: So before I get the price, I want to talk
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: to you about pipelines and permitting. We could sell a
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: lot more natural gas if we had a lot more permits,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: and to get those permits to build the pipelines require
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: some congressional action.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 15: Where are we on that, Well, let's go back just
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 15: fifteen years ago, when the United States was actually a
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 15: net importer of natural gas.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 10: We thought we'd run out of natural gas in this country.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 10: But what happened in.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 15: Two thousand and eight, hydraulic fracturing so called fracking, really
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 15: took place in this country, is really took hold within
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 15: this industry, and as a consequence of that, we discovered
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  Speaker 15: more natural gas than we even know what to do with.
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  Speaker 15: I mean, the liquified natural gas industry basically created here
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  Speaker 15: in the United States. We've expanded it significantly so that
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  Speaker 15: we can support our trade partners and our allies overseas,
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  Speaker 15: supplying them with the natural gas that they need to
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  Speaker 15: power their economies. We virtually replaced all of the natural
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  Speaker 15: gas that Europe was getting through pipes from Russia with
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  Speaker 15: liquefied natural gas from the United States when Russia invaded Ukraine.
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  Speaker 10: This is an American success.
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  Speaker 15: Story, and we have more and more natural gas that
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  Speaker 15: we find every single day.
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  Speaker 5: It can support the.
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  Speaker 15: American economy, it can support the world economy as well.
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  Speaker 15: You think about just from a price perspective, Hue. In
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  Speaker 15: other countries, other international countries, the price of natural gas has.
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  Speaker 10: Gone up, rocketed up almost ten dollars.
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  Speaker 15: In the United States, it's gone up ten cents because
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  Speaker 15: of the conflict in the Middle East. That is because
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  Speaker 15: of American ingenuity and something that we should be proud of.
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  Speaker 15: The only thing holding back natural gas in this country,
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  Speaker 15: the only thing is that we can't build pipelines in
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  Speaker 15: this country because of a anachronistic permit system that needs
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  Speaker 15: to be reformed at the federal level.
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  Speaker 5: So we're working on that now.
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  Speaker 15: We're hoping we can get a bill done in the
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  Speaker 15: next couple of months so that we can actually unlock
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  Speaker 15: this energy potential. And as you know, energy demand is
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  Speaker 15: going up rapidly and if we don't have that natural
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  Speaker 15: gas to supply American consumers and American manufacturers. We're going
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 15: to be left behind in the race against China for
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 15: AI dominance.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all, my LETI friends in Connecticut and Massachusetts and Maine,
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  Speaker 1: and my conservative friends in New Hampshire, they pay ridiculous
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: amounts for their natural gas because they can't get there.
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  Speaker 1: Why don't we have permitting from Pennsylvania to Maine with
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: you side stops wherever they need natural gas.
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  Speaker 2: It's absurd for them to pay this much.
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  Speaker 5: It is absurd.
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  Speaker 15: And the simple fact is you can't get a pipeline
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  Speaker 15: built in New York State to connect the most prolific
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  Speaker 15: gas field in the world, the Marcellus Shale in Pennsylvany,
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  Speaker 15: which by the way, doesn't end in Pennsylvania, it extends
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  Speaker 15: into New York. But they have a fracking band in
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 15: the state of New York. So you can't build a pipeline.
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  Speaker 15: You can't drill for natural gas in New York State,
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  Speaker 15: and thus the people in the Northeast have are stranded.
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  Speaker 15: They're really in an energy desert. As a consequence, you
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 15: have to import natural gas into New England because of this,
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  Speaker 15: or you have to stick with heating oil, which as
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  Speaker 15: you know is it does not have the same environmental benefits.
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  Speaker 15: So the fact that they are standing in the way
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  Speaker 15: of this pipeline is actually doing worse things for the
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  Speaker 15: environment if they just built a pipeline through New York
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  Speaker 15: State to serve New England consumers.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, in the last question, last question, Mike, we're
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  Speaker 1: almoked out of time. In the middle of June, when
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  Speaker 1: people start taking their vacations, what's the average price of
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: gas going to be, not counting California, which is.
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  Speaker 5: Nuts, you know it is.
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  Speaker 10: That's a hard thing to predict right now because you
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  Speaker 10: just don't know how long this situation in the Strait
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  Speaker 10: is going to go on. Remember, we're about seven hundred
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 10: million barrels.
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  Speaker 15: Of oil short right now in the world because of
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 15: this conflict.
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  Speaker 5: We got to get this straight opened up and passed.
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  Speaker 2: I look forward to talking to you again API.
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  Speaker 1: American Petroleum Institute is where you go to get the
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: actual facts about oil and gas and America, and Mike
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  Speaker 1: Summers is the guy to ask.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you