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MY BFF "Cammy" · WDYM What Do You Mean?

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  SPEAKER_00: And this is yet another episode of the WD Wham, the What He Mean podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm your host, Michael Gillespie, and hope everybody is doing well.
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• 1:46
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  SPEAKER_00: Now all of a sudden he cares.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_00: Whatever.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm done with the bangles.
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  SPEAKER_00: Again, divorced fan.
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  SPEAKER_00: We are on our way to ending the season.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're going to be doing a whole bunch of Reddit on Reddit if we have to.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but speaking of that, I got one coming out this week as um, and then I got three episodes planned this week.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_00: And speaking of the third episode, we are titling this My BFF Cami.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_00: Uh my BFF Cammy, um, if you don't know the Street Fighter reference, uh, Cammy's a female.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um I have considered my considered to have two BFFs, two best friends.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_00: One's a male in New Hampshire, and this one's here in good old Hamilton, Ohio.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_00: So we're going to discuss a little backstory of how we met, how we dialogued, uh, all the situations.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_00: Without further ado, let's get right into it.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_00: So um I've known Cammy since elementary.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_00: But we went to the same elementary, junior high, high school, all that together.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, like I said, we knew each other since elementary, junior high with her big old puffy 80s hair and all that stuff.
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then high school, you know, we started having classes together.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_00: And I would always badger her for a pencil.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_00: Always, hey, you got a pencil.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_00: She's like, Mike, why are you not prepared for class?
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_00: Like I said, I am Kami.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_00: I just don't have a thing to write things down, but I'm mentally prepared.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_00: I love math.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_00: I love math so much.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_00: It's so much fun.
• 3:48
  SPEAKER_00: And it's funny that while I like math, my daughters hate math.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_00: It's really funny how how uh things work.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_00: So again, I was here in in in uh math class, and we would talk all the time and get to know each other better, right?
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_00: And so this was like my senior year in high school, long, long, long time ago.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_00: And uh it's getting towards prom season.
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_00: And at this time, I just recently broke up with one of my first girlfriends and all that stuff, and uh, you know, I was like, hey, it's prom season.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to, you know, figure out what I'm gonna do.
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_00: There's only two options on the on the on the court right now.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_00: It's either A, take Cammy to prom or ask her out if she wants to go to prom, or B, uh, yeah, get high.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_00: Just say it is it is what it is.
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_00: This is 20, 20 plus years ago.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, just get high.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_00: So um, I didn't know how to ask her, you know.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't uh if anything, my game was super whack.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_00: If I'm gonna be honest with you, I was super whack.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_00: I just didn't know how to ask females out, whatever.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_00: The first girlfriend was, you know, an accident kind of.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_00: It is what it is.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so we were got it's prom season, and they always had this, but I don't know, back in the day they used to have this little um display on where they would mock a car accident crash and then tell us um about, you know, this many kids go underage drinking and neg in an accident, not wear their seatbelt and just have some tragic fake event that you know we all had to attend.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_00: And at this moment, I'm looking at her like this is my opportunity to because we walked together to the display.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, this is my opportunity to ask her out.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_00: This is my chance to say, you know, do you want to go to prom?
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_00: And uh I didn't do it.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't do it.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, decisions that, you know, decisions that day basically cemented our friendship because I didn't pursue it, right?
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_00: And so, you know, after that, talking to my friends and you know, going Osky, the Osky Wolski friends from that drive lay, you know, you going to prom?
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_00: I said, nah, I ain't going to prom.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_00: I was gonna ask Cammy out, but I was like, nah, I'm not gonna do it.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_00: So, okay, so what are you gonna do?
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, yeah, I'm probably gonna get high as a kite back in the day.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_00: This is 99, 2000, and it's 2022, so do the math.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, you know what, I'm just gonna chill out, do this, you know, it is what it is.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm like, okay, so that's what happened, right?
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_00: She and then I come to find out she goes on, she goes to prom with this guy that I'm calling Majin Boo.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_00: Now, Majin Boo was about 6'2, 240 pounds.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, dude, this dude is really tall and big, you know, and then Cammy was five foot, buck twenty, and you know, I just didn't the math didn't add up.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like, why this big dude dating this small?
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, hey, none of my business.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't ask her.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_00: They go on the prom.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_00: Have a good day, right?
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_00: So that happens.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_00: Uh shortly after that, I go to the military.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_00: I I leave, and then come to find out, Majin Boo and Cammy got married.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, okay, no, I'm not hating.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_00: I like Majin Boo.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_00: And me, Boo, we have mutual friends, so it's like, you know, there's no beef.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_00: It's it, you know, I'm cool with that, right?
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_00: So I go in the military.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_00: We still stay, me and Cammy still stay in contact through MySpace.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_00: Shut up.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_00: I know I'm aging myself, but shut up.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_00: MySpace was the was the heat back then.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you're top five and you got music on the page, and it was shut up.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_00: That was our thing back then, right?
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_00: So uh occasionally talking, and the thing that that I think what makes us good friends, best friends, is that we're competitive, we're ultra competitive to each other.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like anything, and I mean, anything.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_00: So she's talking about playing softball, and she's hitting home runs, averaging 315 ERA.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_00: I said, for softball, you should be averaging 500.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_00: Quit playing.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_00: You should hit that big ass ball, and not, you know, you should be hitting the ball better than three something.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_00: And he's like, Yeah, I'm hitting that and homers.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_00: I said, bull crap.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, we're talking smack, stand in contact, and all that.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_00: So fast forward eight years, I get out the military from that point, eight years after, I get out the military and I'm like, hey, you know, I'm back home.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_00: Let's let's meet up.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, yeah, let's meet up.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_00: So, okay, where are you gonna meet up?
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, well, come to my work.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, cool, where do you work at?
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_00: It's like I work at the bank.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_00: I said, all right.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_00: Say less.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_00: I'll be there in about 15 minutes.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_00: Get my children a savings account.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm there, chilling, you know, talking.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_00: You know, she's introducing me to all our bank friends.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_00: We're catching up, and we're all sitting there chick-chatting, having like a genuinely good, like she's smiling, I'm smiling, having a good time talking.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_00: All of a sudden she picks up, she perks up, oh, oh Schnap.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, oh Schnap.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what's old Schnap?
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_00: She's like, oh, Boo's here.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_00: I said, Boo.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_00: You mean like Majin Boo?
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_00: I turn around and there he is.
• 9:28
  unknown: Boo.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_00: Boo.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_00: Ooh.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_00: Mean mugging me.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_00: The whole time he's walking towards us.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, what?
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_00: Now remind you, I said he's about 6'2, 240, looking down at me in my 5'5 and a half self.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, hold on now.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, oh, look, I ain't no punk.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_00: But um, you kind of tall.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_00: He's mean mugging me.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, hey, what's up, Mike?
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_00: I said, what's up?
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_00: Well, what's up, boo?
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, how you doing?
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, oh, I'm good, man.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_00: I'm good.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_00: Mean mugging me still.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, hey, uh, Cammy, can I talk to you outside?
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_00: She scurries off.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sitting there at the desk by myself.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_00: I turn back and look at them, and they like aug in, but not egging in public.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's an intense conversation.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_00: I'm looking at myself like, did I do something wrong?
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, he should he does know that we're friends, right?
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we've been talking this whole time.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_00: I'm confused right now.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm literally like confused what's going on.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_00: Because this I'm a couple months being back.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just a couple months being back.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_00: And I would assume she would tell him that I reached out and okay, so they come back in and or she comes back in, he leaves.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I'm like, yo, Cammy, what was that about?
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_00: She's like, oh, he's pissed.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, he's pissed.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_00: What he said, yeah, he's pissed at you.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_00: I said, he's pissed at me.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_00: What what what what what what I'm stuttering because they're like, he's he said he's 668.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_00: It's 300 pounds.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, what?
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_00: Why is he mad?
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_00: Why is he mad at me for?
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_00: What did I do?
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_00: He said, you shouldn't be here talking to you.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_00: I said, I'm here on on bank business.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to set up my girls' account.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, yeah, I'm here to talk to you, but you know, it it ain't nothing like that.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_00: He said, he he said, Oh, you didn't know?
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_00: I said, I didn't know what.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_00: He's never liked you.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_00: And I was generally, I was generally surprised at that.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, like, what?
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, he gener he doesn't like me.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_00: I'm the class clown of 1997.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't, I just, I don't, I didn't do nothing to him.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_00: We have a mutual friend.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_00: His mutual, our mutual friend is one of the dudes from my neighborhood.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_00: We are tight.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like, why, why doesn't he like me?
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_00: He said, Well, he knew you were gonna ask me out at prom.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_00: I said, Uh-oh, oh.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_00: But I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't do that.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_00: I said, How'd you know?
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_00: But anyway, that's beyond the point.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_00: I said, I didn't ask you.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_00: So why are you mad at me?
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_00: Why is he mad at me?
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_00: And that's what he said.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, and then she added another thing.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, by the way, we're getting a divorce.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, What?
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I can't I cannot believe, I cannot believe you didn't tell me.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_00: You didn't, you didn't have the time, the audacity to tell like why didn't you say something?
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, well, you know, I didn't want to tell you.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, well, I don't understand that.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_00: But now I see why he didn't like me, but then I really don't see why he didn't like me back then, because I didn't do anything, right?
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_00: I was had the opportunity to, but she she still would have said probably no.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_00: You date him, you probably would have said no to prom me to prom anyway.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_00: So it would this was cemented.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_00: This was supposed, this is what it was supposed to be.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_00: We were supposed to be friends, right?
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_00: That's how I take it.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_00: If things didn't happen that way, we're supposed to be friends.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_00: And then you not telling me y'all getting a divorce just made it look worse.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I had to measure this thing up.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, dude, if this dude like he's like eight feet tall, five hundred pounds, like, dude, uh I'm militant.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I gotta think, I gotta find a way to put and capacitate him.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, man, I don't know what to do.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_00: I had to choke and fear, choke, kick the knee in.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe a a punch in the I don't know the diaphragm of this big husky boo guy, boo character.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_00: I said, I can't.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_00: I said, I gotta figure this out.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_00: I'm kidding, of course.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_00: I'm kidding.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_00: I keep making them bigger.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_00: I'm kidding.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_00: So I didn't know.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_00: I did not know they were getting divorced.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_00: She didn't she didn't tell me this information, but we continued our friendship, and I I I'm pretty sure that pissed him off the whole time.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_00: Again, I didn't know.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_00: So we would hang out outside of that, do things like best friends.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_00: We would work again, two Aquariuses, we are competitive to each other.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_00: She's like, yo, I bet I could beat you in tennis.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_00: I said, you bring the balls, I got the racket.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_00: That don't sound right, but whatever.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_00: Let's play some tennis, right?
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_00: And to this day, to this day, I'm the tennis champ.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_00: I am the tennis champ.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_00: I don't play.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_00: I beat her because it's physical, right?
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_00: It's physical.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_00: If it's something basketball, uh, she wants to she challenged me.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_00: Let's just play horse.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_00: I said, let's play basketball.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_00: I ain't down with all that running around stuff, but we play tennis.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, as of this day, I'm the tennis champ.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_00: And I've been the tennis champ for years now.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_00: She hasn't beat me in years, right?
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_00: So we play tennis, summertime.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_00: We're both hot and sweaty.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_00: We go back, because this is her balls and her racket.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_00: We go back to her house, and there's a dude there.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, oh shoot.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what's what's going on?
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like, why is this dude there?
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_00: And he's sitting there in this in this in the lounch chair looking mad.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like, oh, ooh, wee, this dude look mad.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_00: Now he's not Major and Boo level.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I ain't scared.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_00: Boo.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_00: Boo is near indestructible.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_00: This dude, he spoke of it.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_00: He ain't scared of you.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_00: He's looking at me, me, my dude, come on.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_00: You ain't got no shot at this boy.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_00: I said, you know, I said, hey man, what's up?
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, what's up, man?
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_00: You Mike?
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_00: I said, yeah, Mike.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_00: Who are you?
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_00: And he goes, Timmy! He said, Hey, Timmy, you said, How you doing, buddy?
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_00: I'm doing good.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_00: I said, okay.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_00: So, where y'all coming from?
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_00: I said, We just got done playing tennis.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, I'm still sweating.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_00: I'm wiping my face with my car and everything.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, hey, you know.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, Did you know we had a date?
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_00: I said, no.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't know y'all had a date.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm looking at Cammy, I'm like, hey, you guys had a date?
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, we had a date.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, oh, this is very awkward.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_00: This is an awkward position you don't put me in.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_00: So I go in the room, go in the house, use the restroom.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, Cammy was like, why didn't you tell me you had a date with Kenner?
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, okay, why didn't you tell me?
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I'm like, hey, you know, I mean, you know, you just say something.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, well, you know, I didn't feel like telling them, you know, blah, blah, blah.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, I'm like, okay.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you don't put me in another bad situation.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, huh, this is like, this is twice now you've done this, but I mean, I ain't scared of you.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_00: I ain't scared of I ain't scared of Kenneth! I ain't scared of him.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like, kiss the grits.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_00: I ain't scared of you.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: So that's the second time that she didn't tell me that she had some extracurricular activities.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_00: And again, I'm the B I'm the BFF.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_00: I don't care.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you just tell me and I I won't I will not be in a way.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_00: I kick your butt in tennis, but that's it.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_00: And that was the general pattern of our of our friendship.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_00: We would hang out, hang out with a mutual friend, hang out together, go back to her place and drink, right?
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_00: And play boggle.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_00: Plays you know, play games, play m uh word games that she would kick my ass in every time.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_00: Scrabble, boggle, scatteries, whatever, whatever the game was, most of the time she would beat me.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_00: I know there's a couple games I won, but boggle, I can't stand like how you link all these words.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, so that was always the pattern.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: We hang out with mutual friends, go back to her place, watch a movie, drink some wine, play a game, talk.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_00: We did that for years.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_00: Years.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_00: And you might be like, Well, Mike, you married.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_00: How did this happen?
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_00: Well, the first time we hung out, we did a winery, it was a little concerned.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: She's like, hey, you know, you guys drinking, you know, something might happen.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, I said, wifey, so we in public, and it's tasting.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_00: Tastings is this this big, this this big, from thumbnail to index finger.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's very small, like you're trying to pin something.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_00: You ain't gonna get drunk off that.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you got nothing to worry about.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_00: Come on now.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_00: Like, come on now.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_00: You ain't got nothing to worry about.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_00: So that was the initial test.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_00: And after that, we was cool.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_00: After that, and didn't have no problem.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_00: Best friends that don't mix.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_00: Like I said, she's Republican, I'm a Democrat.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_00: Those things don't mix, you know what I'm saying?
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_00: Cat person, not a cat person.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_00: Those things just don't mix, you know.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_00: That's what it is.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_00: And she would say things, she would say things I was like, man, this this lady, this lady's crazy.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_00: She would say, you know, Mike, you're my only brown friend.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, brown friend?
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: What the is this back in the 1950s?
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_00: What the you know, like you, I'm black, African American?
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_00: She'll call me your brown, she said, you my brown friend.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_00: I said, boy.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_00: I said, okay, this is why we are best friends.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_00: So that was the thing, right?
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_00: So eventually it would come to a point where whoever she was seeing, they didn't want us hanging around, right?
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: So I was always thinking to myself, like, why is that the situation?
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_00: Why do they they do not want me around?
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I get it, and it like, you know, understand that men, like dudes, you know, don't want me around because I'm a guy, they think something's going on, but again, like I said, I like to drink tea, she likes Kool-Aid, it just don't mix, right?
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I'm saying.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_00: We didn't mix like that.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_00: It never was like that.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_00: Never was like that.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_00: So the the latest, the last dude that she was with, uh we didn't see each other for like it was a whole year plus.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like she moved out, she moved in with him.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, yo, you ain't seeing Mike at all.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, you know what?
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_00: I respect that decision.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_00: I'm cool with that.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it is what it is.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_00: We can still contact with still text each other, say, Hey, how you doing?
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_00: That cut off too.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_00: That eventually slowed, declined.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_00: It's not the biggest texture.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_00: I get that, you know, whatever.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_00: So they break up and then we start hanging out, start talking again, start talking again, text message.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, yo, who's this?
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_00: New phone, who's this?
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_00: Like, oh, quit playing.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's me, Cammy.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_00: I said, okay, cool, cool.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_00: Say, what do you want to do?
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_00: Let's hang out.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_00: I said, You want to hang out?
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_00: She's like, Yeah.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_00: You want to hang out?
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, all right, all right, so be it.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_00: So be it.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna hang out.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_00: So we go to this festival, and it's me and her.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, you getting a nostalgia, you know.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, we we ain't hang out in about over a year.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_00: We meet up with a mutual, we meet up with Chun Lee, we get in, we drinking, and at the point I stopped drinking.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_00: I said, I ain't drinking no more.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: I said, you know, I don't drink no more.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_00: I I I have a drink like once every six months, you know what I'm saying?
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, I quit drinking, she's drinking, drinking these little daiquiries and everything.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_00: And then all of a sudden, I hear I heard this guy.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, hey, so hey, Kami, what's up?
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_00: I said, who's that?
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_00: And he looked, and I turn around, he's like, hey, I didn't think you were real.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_00: I said, What?
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: He said, I didn't think you were real.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_00: I said, Well, who are you?
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: And he goes, Jinnai! He said I love these.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_00: He says, My name is Jack! Jimmy.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: I said, Jimmy.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_00: Why don't I recognize your name?
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_00: He said, Jimmy.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_00: I said, I'm thinking to myself, who's Jimmy?
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_00: Who's Jimmy?
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_00: Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, thank you, thank you, thank you, who's Jimmy?
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_00: Who's Jimmy?
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, uh, oh Jimmy.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_00: Jimmy is a past friend that she used to see back in the day.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm looking at her, looking at Jimmy, I'm like, uh, okay.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's cool.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_00: And the thing is that me and Jimmy, we actually get along.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, yo, man, I can't believe you let her beat you in tennis.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_00: I said, oh.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: I said, Cammy, you you beat me in tennis.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_00: And she does this little tee hee ha ha.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yo, you know that's never happened, right?
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_00: He said, Word, she's lying.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_00: I said, get out of here.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_00: I said, Yes, we ain't they never beat me.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like, she beat me in tennis, but she ain't beat.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_00: I'm the tennis champion right now.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, yo, you she did not.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_00: There's no, no, she didn't beat me.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_00: She didn't beat me in tennis.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_00: I'll tell you that much.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_00: I'm the tennis champion right now.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_00: And so we get along, we're talking the whole time, have no problem, right?
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_00: Just that awkward third wheel feeling.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yo, I'm like, I don't think.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_00: It might be time for me to bounce.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I ain't just, this is weird.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_00: Because I know their history.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_00: So what am I doing here?
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_00: And it and it dawns on me that I might have been cover this whole time.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_00: This whole time, I might have been covered for other things that I didn't even know about.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_00: You know, hey, I was hanging out with Mike, but I was really hanging out with Jimmy.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like I'm really hanging out, might have been hanging with somebody else.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: So uh might have been covered for this whole time, and that's why most of the dudes didn't like me.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_00: So as time goes by, I say, hey, Cammy, do you mind if I use this story?
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_00: It's part of my podcast.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_00: Might as well tell.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_00: She's like, sure, I don't care.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, okay, that's really weird.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like, whatever.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_00: But she don't care.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, all right, cool, cool.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_00: Like, all right, I'm gonna use it then.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_00: But tell me, did you use me for cover?
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_00: She's like, Well, what do you mean?
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_00: I said, we went to that festival last.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_00: Did you know that Jimmy was gonna be there?
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_00: She's like, Yeah.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_00: Did that bother you?
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_00: I said, a little bit.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_00: So because we had a pattern.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_00: We had a pattern.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_00: Hang out, mutual friends, and you know, us.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_00: BFS.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_00: Hang out, chill.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_00: I said, Yeah, well, you know, I didn't feel like I'd tell you.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_00: And that was the whole thing.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_00: She kept her stuff together and didn't tell me about things.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_00: Because if you would have told me, I probably wouldn't have showed up because again, we ain't hung out in over a year.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_00: So I thought, I thought, I thought that'd be special time.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_00: But that's my friend Cammy.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_00: Still love her to this day, always will.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_00: That's my BFF, and I'm stuck with it.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_00: And it's cool.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_00: As long as she's happy, I'm happy too.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_00: That's the bottom line.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_00: So we're gonna end the episode right here.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_00: Special shout out goes to and Mazin Boo, of course.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_00: I'm your host of the WDYM, my name is Michael Michael Gillespie, and I'm out boy scout.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_00: Peace.