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- 0:18Speaker 2: Welcome to the Hugh Hewitt Show.
- 0:19Speaker 3: I'm not Hugh, I'm Kurt Schlichter, senior columnist at townhall.com,
- 0:24Speaker 3: retired United States.
- 0:25Speaker 2: Army Colonel, and.
- 0:27Speaker 3: recovering Los Angeles trial lawyer. I'm going to get right
- 0:30Speaker 3: into it because I know you guys have questions. You
- 0:34Speaker 3: guys have questions about what's happening in the midterms, and
- 0:37Speaker 3: over the next four days, as I guest host for you,
- 0:39Speaker 3: I'm going to try and answer them. Where do you
- 0:43Speaker 3: go when you want an answer? You go to the source.
- 0:46Speaker 3: I've got Attorney General of the great state of Texas,
- 0:49Speaker 3: Ken Paxton, on the line. General Paxton, welcome to the
- 0:52Speaker 3: Hugh Hewitt Show.
- 0:53Speaker 4: Hey, thanks for having me on. It's good to be
- 0:56Speaker 4: with you today.
- 0:57Speaker 2: Well, I'm with you.
- 0:58Speaker 3: I'm here at my Houston house, and I've got to
- 1:00Speaker 3: ask a question that's on everybody's mind.
- 1:04Speaker 2: Who's your favorite drag queen?
- 1:08Speaker 4: That is a question that I would have no answer to.
- 1:10Speaker 4: I'd never even heard of any names until James Tallarico
- 1:14Speaker 4: brought up the name Alyssa Edwards, who apparently, I've discovered
- 1:17Speaker 4: since he said it was his favorite drag queen, he
- 1:20Speaker 4: or she, whatever promotes... child drag shows and has groomed
- 1:25Speaker 4: other children. So it's kind of interesting that he had
- 1:27Speaker 4: his favorite and that's who he chose.
- 1:30Speaker 3: Well, look, Attorney General Paxton, I'm a, look, I am
- 1:35Speaker 3: a Californian. I'm coming back here to Houston. I lived
- 1:37Speaker 3: here for four months while I was an infant. I
- 1:39Speaker 3: guess it took hold of me. And, um, I don't
- 1:44Speaker 3: put myself out as a true Texan like you are,
- 1:48Speaker 3: but I don't think that Texans are particularly enamored of
- 1:52Speaker 3: somebody who has a favorite drag queen, somebody who wants
- 1:56Speaker 3: to take our guns, somebody who doesn't like meat, except
- 1:59Speaker 3: when he does, someone who wants to raise taxes.
- 2:04Speaker 2: Someone who, well.
- 2:07Speaker 3: He's got some weird ideas about religion. And frankly, I
- 2:11Speaker 3: don't think Texans are buying that.
- 2:13Speaker 2: Am I off base?
- 2:15Speaker 4: No, no, this is the guy also who voted against
- 2:17Speaker 4: every single bill that was put in front of him
- 2:19Speaker 4: over eight years to secure our border, whether it's to
- 2:22Speaker 4: help law enforcement work with the federal government, whether it
- 2:25Speaker 4: was to help law enforcement work locally, whether it was
- 2:27Speaker 4: to protect citizens. As states work together, he voted against
- 2:32Speaker 4: every ounce of money that would have helped secure our
- 2:35Speaker 4: border and keep our people safe. So, no, Texans just
- 2:38Speaker 4: don't know what he believes. He was in the Texas
- 2:40Speaker 4: House for eight years. No one knew what he accomplished
- 2:43Speaker 4: because he didn't accomplish anything good. He had a lot
- 2:45Speaker 4: of really bad, bad votes that were really antithetical to
- 2:49Speaker 4: what Texans want. But because he made his name on
- 2:52Speaker 4: the Joe Rogan show, no one knows actually what his
- 2:55Speaker 4: views are, so he's running as a moderate Democrat. When
- 2:58Speaker 4: in reality, he's a socialist Democrat and maybe a communist.
- 3:01Speaker 4: I mean we're talking.
- 3:02Speaker 5: About really, really radical.
- 3:04Speaker 4: Nobody has ever run in Texas that fits his description,
- 3:08Speaker 4: that radical, that left, that socialist.
- 3:12Speaker 3: Well, General Paxton, the Hugh Hewitt audience is a pretty
- 3:16Speaker 3: sophisticated one, and they want to know the answer to
- 3:20Speaker 3: the big question.
- 3:21Speaker 2: How are you going to win? Are you going to
- 3:23Speaker 2: have the money to.
- 3:25Speaker 3: Tell the people of Texas exactly who this blasphemous.
- 3:28Speaker 2: Little imp is?
- 3:30Speaker 4: Well, look, we started out behind the eight ball because
- 3:32Speaker 4: I had a runoff for three months where I had
- 3:34Speaker 4: to spend money, a lot of money, and that went
- 3:36Speaker 4: from March 3rd until May 26th. He was able not
- 3:39Speaker 4: to spend money during those three months because he did
- 3:41Speaker 4: not have a runoff. Unfortunately, Texas has a really long runoff.
- 3:44Speaker 4: It's ridiculous, but that's what we have. And so he
- 3:47Speaker 4: was able to go to California and raise half of
- 3:50Speaker 4: his money. I think he raised about $ 30 million total.
- 3:53Speaker 4: Most of his money, more than any other state, came
- 3:56Speaker 4: from the state of California because they're trying to influence
- 3:58Speaker 4: our elections in Texas. So his funding is coming from
- 4:01Speaker 4: mostly out of state. And it's designed to elect a
- 4:04Speaker 4: very liberal senator. So the key here for us is
- 4:07Speaker 4: we're finally– it took us a couple months to start
- 4:11Speaker 4: accumulating enough where we could run ads. He started in July,
- 4:15Speaker 4: like the beginning of July. We just started eight, nine,
- 4:18Speaker 4: ten days ago, and we're already making up ground. We
- 4:20Speaker 4: went from a few points up to a few point downs,
- 4:22Speaker 4: and I think now we're at least even, maybe even
- 4:25Speaker 4: a little better than that.
- 4:25Speaker 5: We're moving in the.
- 4:26Speaker 4: Right direction now that people are actually getting to see,
- 4:29Speaker 4: in his own words, what he actually believes, not what
- 4:33Speaker 4: he's lying to us about, not what he's trying to
- 4:35Speaker 4: cover up, but actually what James Tallarico believes. And I
- 4:39Speaker 4: think the ads I've seen are talking about him pushing
- 4:43Speaker 4: the transgender movement for all Texans and believing that it
- 4:45Speaker 4: was abusive if parents didn't help their kids go in
- 4:49Speaker 4: that direction.
- 4:52Speaker 3: Well, that's super creepy. Look, let's put our cards on
- 4:59Speaker 3: the table. You are an anti-establishment candidate. You took out
- 5:02Speaker 3: an incumbent senator, and he got pretty upset about it.
- 5:06Speaker 3: Are you going to be able to count on GOP
- 5:09Speaker 3: establishment money and get out the vote support to do
- 5:13Speaker 3: what you have to do and win the state of
- 5:15Speaker 3: Texas and thereby keep the.
- 5:16Speaker 2: United States Senate?
- 5:18Speaker 4: Look, they spent $ 225 million over the course of a
- 5:22Speaker 4: little over a year. And much of that was negative advertising,
- 5:25Speaker 4: maybe $ 180 million or so. And despite that, I ended
- 5:29Speaker 4: up winning by 28 points. So I would love, we've
- 5:32Speaker 4: tried to reach out to every supporter. John Cornyn, because
- 5:36Speaker 4: we have to unite. Whether John Cornyn makes that decision,
- 5:39Speaker 4: he certainly hasn't so far, but we'd certainly welcome it.
- 5:43Speaker 4: Had I lost the primary, I'd said many times that
- 5:46Speaker 4: I would have been supporting him or anybody else, and
- 5:49Speaker 4: it turned out it would have been him in the runoff.
- 5:51Speaker 4: So I think it's pretty important that we pull every
- 5:55Speaker 4: single Republican vote in, or we're going to end up
- 5:58Speaker 4: with somebody so radical. I get being upset about a primary,
- 6:01Speaker 4: but Look at the overall what's going to happen to
- 6:03Speaker 4: this country if we lose Texas. We will not have
- 6:06Speaker 4: much hope.
- 6:08Speaker 3: Well, look, my feelings about John Cornyn are no secret.
- 6:11Speaker 3: And if you want to know them, you can go
- 6:13Speaker 3: read my town hall column today. It's it's rather critical.
- 6:18Speaker 3: But look, this guy has served as a Republican senator for, what,
- 6:24Speaker 3: 30 years, almost 25.
- 6:26Speaker 2: And, you know, he hasn't he.
- 6:29Speaker 3: Hasn't come and rallied around the flag after the voters
- 6:33Speaker 3: made a decision.
- 6:34Speaker 2: Have you had a personal.
- 6:35Speaker 3: Phone call with John Cornyn since defeating him in the
- 6:39Speaker 3: primary to talk about him coming and supporting you?
- 6:43Speaker 4: No, I've tried. I've sent text messages. I tried to
- 6:47Speaker 4: call the night of the election after I was told
- 6:50Speaker 4: he would try to call me, although I didn't actually
- 6:52Speaker 4: see the call. So, no, I've not had that opportunity.
- 6:56Speaker 4: I'd certainly welcome it. And I've made efforts to meet
- 7:00Speaker 4: with him in D.C. or here, wherever he chose.
- 7:07Speaker 3: Like all Republican parties, there's an establishment wing and there's
- 7:11Speaker 3: a kind of an insurgent America first kind of Tea
- 7:14Speaker 3: Party wing that I'm now dating myself here in Texas.
- 7:21Speaker 3: Are there other folks in the establishment that maybe can
- 7:25Speaker 3: be prevailed upon to talk a little sense to John Cornyn?
- 7:29Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 7:29Speaker 4: And I think some have tried to talk to him
- 7:31Speaker 4: and I think that, um, you know, I'm not saying
- 7:33Speaker 4: it's impossible to, to, to get his help, but we
- 7:36Speaker 4: are down to four weeks from today is early voting. So, um,
- 7:40Speaker 4: if he's going to help us, obviously, you know, now
- 7:44Speaker 4: is a good time. So I, all I can say is,
- 7:46Speaker 4: you know, I'm hopeful. I hope he does. I hope
- 7:48Speaker 4: that we can mend senses and, and, and, and move
- 7:52Speaker 4: in a good direction away from this radical socialism, communism,
- 7:56Speaker 4: whatever you want to call it, uh, obviously John and
- 8:00Speaker 4: I are a lot more alike than we are like,
- 8:02Speaker 4: like James Tallarico. So there should be some commonality here
- 8:05Speaker 4: and we should be able to work together. And I
- 8:06Speaker 4: hope that turns out to be true.
- 8:09Speaker 2: Well, I think all the voters do, too.
- 8:11Speaker 3: And I think that would do a lot for John
- 8:12Speaker 3: Cornyn's legacy if he stood up and stuck with the team.
- 8:16Speaker 2: Let me ask you, the Republicans.
- 8:19Speaker 3: In Texas have a pretty have had a pretty strong
- 8:22Speaker 3: Republican machine. Greg Abbott, the governor, is running for reelection.
- 8:26Speaker 3: Are you working with Greg Abbott? Are you guys within
- 8:29Speaker 3: the bounds of the law coordinating so to maximize the
- 8:34Speaker 3: output for Republicans in Texas? How's that relationship going?
- 8:38Speaker 6: No, I think he and other statewide leaders, this is
- 8:44Speaker 6: probably the closest we've all been in probably talking about
- 8:49Speaker 6: overall strategy and where things are going.
- 8:52Speaker 4: I think it's probably the best I've ever seen it.
- 8:56Speaker 4: You know, I give the governor a lot of credit
- 8:57Speaker 4: because he's definitely been pushing that direction and leading in
- 9:01Speaker 4: that direction. So I feel like this is the best
- 9:04Speaker 4: team effort we've ever had since I've run statewide. But
- 9:08Speaker 4: this is my fourth statewide run. So I've done it
- 9:11Speaker 4: for a while.
- 9:12Speaker 3: Well, look, James, how are you saying some pretty nasty
- 9:16Speaker 3: things about you? Do you do you think you're going
- 9:20Speaker 3: to beat this guy? We got about 15 seconds.
- 9:24Speaker 5: I have no doubt.
- 9:25Speaker 4: Once we tell people the truth about this radical socialist
- 9:27Speaker 4: and his actual views, and we show how dishonest he
- 9:32Speaker 4: has been, we're going to win the state of Texas.
- 9:34Speaker 4: We're not going to let it go.
- 9:35Speaker 2: What's your website so people can help?
- 9:38Speaker 4: KenPaxson.com. We definitely need people's help, so please go there
- 9:41Speaker 4: and give if you can.
- 9:43Speaker 3: Thank you, Attorney General Ken Paxton. I'm guest host Kurt Schlichter.
- 9:46Speaker 3: This is The Hugh Hewitt Show.
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- 10:49Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Hugh Hewitt Show. I'm Curt Schlenker.
- 10:54Speaker 3: You can tell by the awesome bumper music. That's the
- 10:56Speaker 3: Clash's cover of the old Sonny Curtis song, I Fought
- 11:01Speaker 3: the Law.
- 11:02Speaker 2: I think it's Sonny Curtis. Bobby Curtis? Somebody. Anyway, it rocks.
- 11:06Speaker 3: And you know who else rocks? Well, he's the head
- 11:08Speaker 3: of the— well, he's counsel for the Article III project.
- 11:12Speaker 2: He's got the Counterweight podcast.
- 11:13Speaker 3: He's my pal, Will Chamberlain, the most bitter and sarcastic
- 11:17Speaker 3: guy on X.
- 11:18Speaker 2: Will, how are you doing?
- 11:19Speaker 7: Thank you. That's quite an honor.
- 11:23Speaker 3: Well, you know, you're carrying a lot of weight out
- 11:27Speaker 3: there for those of us who get tired of engaging
- 11:30Speaker 3: with idiots all the time because you seem— You seem
- 11:34Speaker 3: unperturbed by dealing with and disposing of Nimrod Knucklehead and
- 11:41Speaker 3: nerds of all shapes, manners, and political persuasions.
- 11:47Speaker 2: How do you find the.
- 11:49Speaker 3: Wherewithal to deal with such numbskulls day.
- 11:54Speaker 2: After day after day?
- 11:57Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 11:58Speaker 7: I just find it fun.
- 12:00Speaker 8: Particularly, it's deeply satisfying to get something over on somebody
- 12:03Speaker 8: like Mehdi Hassan. If I can get one over on him,
- 12:05Speaker 8: that's a really good day.
- 12:07Speaker 3: Well, that's like tripping a fat kid at a breakdance competition.
- 12:11Speaker 2: I mean, it's Mehdi Hassan.
- 12:14Speaker 7: It's not too hard, but it is still very fun.
- 12:17Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's something.
- 12:18Speaker 3: I mean, sure, it's fun, but it's not exactly particle physics.
- 12:23Speaker 3: Speaking of not exactly particle physics, I've.
- 12:26Speaker 2: Heard a lot of.
- 12:28Speaker 3: people who are journalismists informing me that it is in
- 12:35Speaker 3: violation of the First Amendment for Donald Trump not to
- 12:38Speaker 3: provide accommodations for CNN, Politico, and what was the other one?
- 12:44Speaker 2: MS Now at the White House anymore.
- 12:49Speaker 3: What's your assessment of the First Amendment implications of Donald
- 12:52Speaker 3: Trump having it up to here with these fake news nimrods?
- 12:58Speaker 7: So there is a line of D.C.
- 12:59Speaker 8: Circuit cases that says that they have a right to
- 13:01Speaker 8: go to the press briefings.
- 13:02Speaker 7: Right.
- 13:03Speaker 8: Basically, that singling out a single reporter to not be
- 13:07Speaker 8: allowed into the press briefing room if they're like that's
- 13:09Speaker 8: literally their job. If they're the White House correspondent, that's
- 13:11Speaker 8: a violation of their freedom of their First Amendment rights.
- 13:14Speaker 8: But I don't think that covers the right to have
- 13:17Speaker 8: like a permanent station at the White House to do
- 13:20Speaker 8: broadcasting from. And I don't I doubt that those cases
- 13:24Speaker 8: will be extended that far.
- 13:25Speaker 1: Right.
- 13:25Speaker 8: That's a you know, that's a convenience provided by the
- 13:27Speaker 8: grace of the White House. And there are only a
- 13:28Speaker 8: scarce number of those sorts of places. And there are
- 13:31Speaker 8: other outlets that would want them. So, you know, not
- 13:35Speaker 8: every outlet gets one of those spots and there's no
- 13:36Speaker 8: entitlement to that.
- 13:38Speaker 3: Well, you know, Will Chamberlain, you know, certainly there are
- 13:43Speaker 3: potential questions that could be raised about the First Amendment
- 13:47Speaker 3: implications of Donald Trump's actions. But my question is, as conservatives,
- 13:53Speaker 3: why the hell.
- 13:54Speaker 2: Would we raise them?
- 13:56Speaker 3: I mean, aren't there about five million other things more
- 13:59Speaker 3: important to us with, oh, I don't know, a midterm
- 14:02Speaker 3: against communists coming up?
- 14:04Speaker 2: That instead of jumping to the defense of our enemies.
- 14:10Speaker 2: Shouldn't we be out there?
- 14:11Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know. Defending our friends and our own interests.
- 14:14Speaker 3: I'm just saying.
- 14:16Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't really get why Fox News is doing this.
- 14:18Speaker 8: I don't think much of their decision making here. It's
- 14:21Speaker 8: not like the left has any love for Fox News
- 14:23Speaker 8: or has any habit of standing up for Fox News
- 14:25Speaker 8: when Democrat presidents play stunts with them. So I don't
- 14:29Speaker 8: really think much of, you know, our attempt, anybody's attempt
- 14:32Speaker 8: to come to the rescue, be the knight in shining
- 14:34Speaker 8: armor for Politico. And and that's now of all places.
- 14:39Speaker 3: Well, look, I think there are– here's my beef. There
- 14:44Speaker 3: are a lot of knights in pastel armor out there
- 14:49Speaker 3: on the conservative– allegedly conservative side.
- 14:52Speaker 2: Let me throw the air quotes up.
- 14:54Speaker 3: Who get an almost erotic delight– out of informing conservatives
- 15:00Speaker 3: that we're bad and not living up to our principles anymore.
- 15:03Speaker 2: And this is the most important thing there is.
- 15:05Speaker 3: Let's put aside all the stuff about castrating kids and
- 15:10Speaker 3: redistributing the wealth and, you know, keeping America from coming
- 15:14Speaker 3: under Chinese domination. There's an aesthetically displeasing, obscure Republican candidate
- 15:21Speaker 3: for some state office candidate in East Dakota, and we've
- 15:26Speaker 3: all got to focus on that for four days.
- 15:29Speaker 2: I'm tired of it. How about you?
- 15:32Speaker 8: Yeah, me too. I don't have much time for this.
- 15:35Speaker 8: It seems like it's not just them. There's a broader
- 15:38Speaker 8: operation going on among conservatives who lost the debate about
- 15:43Speaker 8: the value of a purist libertarian conservatism six or seven
- 15:47Speaker 8: years ago, and they're now trying to wield old clips
- 15:50Speaker 8: against J.D.
- 15:51Speaker 7: Vance and associates to.
- 15:53Speaker 8: Try and prove that like actually he's a fascist or something.
- 15:55Speaker 8: These are these are incredibly silly people, most of whom
- 15:59Speaker 8: probably didn't vote for Trump. And they're just running a
- 16:01Speaker 8: never Trump playbook without calling it that.
- 16:04Speaker 3: Is there any chance these people are going to come in? Look,
- 16:08Speaker 3: Trump's going away. I mean, he'll still be out there
- 16:10Speaker 3: for a few years, but he's going to leave power
- 16:14Speaker 3: and there's going to be a fight for it. Do
- 16:16Speaker 3: you see any chance that these kind of old school
- 16:19Speaker 3: gentlemanly decline Republicans, the submissive Republicans, the Fredo cons, if
- 16:26Speaker 3: you will, will ever take power again?
- 16:30Speaker 7: It's going to be a while.
- 16:30Speaker 8: I mean, people need to understand that even if Trump's
- 16:32Speaker 8: not the president, he still is going to be a
- 16:34Speaker 8: Reagan like figure in our party. He's just so popular
- 16:37Speaker 8: even now. And, you know, with with not like forever
- 16:40Speaker 8: left in his presidency, he's going to be a Reagan
- 16:43Speaker 8: like figure in our party. And so the specter of
- 16:45Speaker 8: Trump will linger over even after he's gone, like literally,
- 16:48Speaker 8: like even after he passes away, the specter of Trump
- 16:50Speaker 8: will linger over the party and people will be proclaiming
- 16:52Speaker 8: themselves as honoring Trump's tradition or Trump's legacy forever. So, no,
- 16:58Speaker 8: I mean, this whole Fredo Khan stuff is not going
- 17:00Speaker 8: to work. It's not going to fly, like especially not
- 17:02Speaker 8: in 2028. I mean, honestly, it's very easy for me
- 17:04Speaker 8: to tell you who's going to be the 2028 presidential nominee.
- 17:07Speaker 8: It's going to be whoever for the Republican Party. It's
- 17:08Speaker 8: whoever Donald Trump endorses.
- 17:10Speaker 4: Yes.
- 17:10Speaker 2: I mean, that's what.
- 17:13Speaker 3: To play. Even even Nicole Hannah Jones's kid could do
- 17:18Speaker 3: that math.
- 17:20Speaker 7: Yeah, right.
- 17:22Speaker 8: Nicole Hannah Jones's kid could do it. Even even Nicole
- 17:24Speaker 8: Hannah Jones herself could do it.
- 17:25Speaker 3: Well, maybe. Maybe.
- 17:27Speaker 7: Maybe.
- 17:28Speaker 3: Let's talk about the midterms. They're coming up. We've got
- 17:31Speaker 3: about two minutes left. I've been told that history and
- 17:37Speaker 3: the weight of moral judgment are against the Republicans and
- 17:41Speaker 3: that we're going to get destroyed in a blue tsunami.
- 17:43Speaker 2: I don't think so.
- 17:46Speaker 3: I think the Democrats are likely to do OK.
- 17:49Speaker 2: I don't see them taking the Senate. I think we
- 17:51Speaker 2: could keep the House. What do you think?
- 17:54Speaker 8: I have a similar view. We're in better shape than
- 17:57Speaker 8: we were in 2018. You got to remember, 2018 was
- 17:59Speaker 8: like the heart of the Mueller investigation. and the heart of,
- 18:03Speaker 8: you know, we were in a much worse position electorally
- 18:06Speaker 8: because of how much crud Donald Trump was having to
- 18:09Speaker 8: deal with in that first term. Everybody, you know, has
- 18:11Speaker 8: memory hold that now, but you got to remember all
- 18:13Speaker 8: the way back then. Now, I mean, people are mad
- 18:16Speaker 8: about Iran, I guess, but it's hard for me. If
- 18:18Speaker 8: you actually, here's a really interesting question that I don't
- 18:20Speaker 8: see asked, like, what exactly are people mad about right
- 18:22Speaker 8: now that's happening vis-a-vis Iran? It's a naval blockade with
- 18:25Speaker 8: some airstrikes. Americans aren't dying. What are you so angry about?
- 18:29Speaker 3: Yeah, we're we're we're eliminating a generational enemy that's killed
- 18:34Speaker 3: thousands of Americans.
- 18:36Speaker 7: I don't know.
- 18:36Speaker 2: I'm for that.
- 18:38Speaker 8: And even if I have to pay a little more gas,
- 18:40Speaker 8: I mean, we're losing. We've lost 16 troops. That's I mean, obviously,
- 18:43Speaker 8: extraordinary tragedy, each troop that we lose. But that's roughly
- 18:46Speaker 8: the number of troops we would lose during peacetime operations.
- 18:49Speaker 3: Well, look, there are 10-yard patches of beach in the
- 18:53Speaker 3: Pacific and in Europe where we lost more Americans than that.
- 18:58Speaker 2: And I'm an infantry officer.
- 19:00Speaker 3: I will never downplay the death of an American, but
- 19:04Speaker 3: we don't have to be stupid. And, Will, you're doing
- 19:08Speaker 3: a lot to tell people you don't have to be stupid.
- 19:10Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 19:10Speaker 3: Article 3 Project, listen to the Counterweight podcast, which he
- 19:14Speaker 3: needs to have me on.
- 19:16Speaker 2: I'm Kurt Schlichter. We'll be right back. We're back on
- 19:20Speaker 2: The Hugh Hewitt Show. I'm Guesser's Kurt Schlichter.
- 19:22Speaker 3: A little psychedelic first for you folks out there. Getting
- 19:27Speaker 3: into the 80s, my favorite of decades, the.
- 19:31Speaker 2: 1980s, back when America was America. Well, I'm biased.
- 19:36Speaker 3: I live in California most of the time. California isn't America.
- 19:41Speaker 3: If you want America, you need to go to Selena Zito.
- 19:44Speaker 3: She writes for The Washington Post, The Examiner. My gosh,
- 19:47Speaker 3: she's got the book Butler out there. about the assassination
- 19:51Speaker 3: attempt on President Trump. Best political book of the last
- 19:55Speaker 3: few years. Selena, welcome to the show. Always great to
- 19:58Speaker 3: talk to you.
- 19:59Speaker 9: Oh, it's great to talk to you.
- 20:00Speaker 10: And everyone should make sure that they buy Butler because
- 20:03Speaker 10: it's being made into a movie right now.
- 20:06Speaker 2: A movie. That's cool.
- 20:08Speaker 4: A movie.
- 20:09Speaker 2: Oh, man. I know.
- 20:12Speaker 9: Right here in Pennsylvania.
- 20:14Speaker 2: Right here, Miller. Good luck, y'all.
- 20:18Speaker 3: Well, you know, Pennsylvania has a special, the Pittsburgh area
- 20:23Speaker 3: has a remarkable history of film. It was the site
- 20:27Speaker 3: of George Romero, who did Night of the Living Dead
- 20:30Speaker 3: and Dawn of the Dead, two of my favorite movies
- 20:33Speaker 3: for Halloween.
- 20:34Speaker 9: They're coming for you, Barbara.
- 20:36Speaker 2: They're coming for you, Barbara.
- 20:37Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 20:40Speaker 2: That's, uh, that's, uh, wow.
- 20:44Speaker 10: And Hoffa and the fish that saved Pittsburgh.
- 20:49Speaker 9: It was some real good classics.
- 20:50Speaker 3: The fish that saved Pittsburgh. Boy, Selena, that is a
- 20:55Speaker 3: deep cut. Wow.
- 21:00Speaker 2: Well, let's get right into things.
- 21:01Speaker 3: I've been told by all the smart people who never
- 21:04Speaker 3: leave Manhattan or the Beltway that the Republicans are due
- 21:09Speaker 3: in this election. There's a blue tsunami out there. We're
- 21:13Speaker 3: going to get destroyed. Every commie, pinko, and malcontent on
- 21:19Speaker 3: the Democratic ticket is going to be taking a Senate seat.
- 21:22Speaker 3: What say you, someone with her fingers on the pulse
- 21:26Speaker 3: of America?
- 21:27Speaker 10: Well, you know, first of all, I don't know that
- 21:30Speaker 10: we're constructed anymore to have like a huge wave tsunami.
- 21:34Speaker 9: Like you saw in 2010.
- 21:36Speaker 4: Right.
- 21:37Speaker 10: When I think it was 63 seats that the Republicans won.
- 21:40Speaker 10: If we do have a tsunami, I think it'll be
- 21:43Speaker 10: like 20 seats and under, maybe 25.
- 21:45Speaker 9: But even then, I'm very concerned.
- 21:49Speaker 10: Skittish in saying it's definitely going to happen, much in
- 21:52Speaker 10: the way that I said in 2022 that the Republicans
- 21:57Speaker 10: are going to have this massive win.
- 22:01Speaker 9: For Biden's midterm. There's a lot going on.
- 22:05Speaker 10: There's a lot that, you know, people are unwilling to
- 22:09Speaker 10: talk to pollsters in a very meaningful way.
- 22:13Speaker 9: And so I think the polls are off.
- 22:18Speaker 2: I'm particularly, you.
- 22:21Speaker 9: Know, sort of skeptical of Sherrod Brown winning Ohio.
- 22:26Speaker 10: People tend to not go with retreads in the Senate seat.
- 22:31Speaker 10: And so and he hasn't done anything to win those
- 22:36Speaker 10: voters back who felt as though they should mistrust him.
- 22:40Speaker 10: In Pennsylvania, there's four congressional seats that are basically 50-50 split. And,
- 22:46Speaker 10: you know, like in presidential elections, Pennsylvania could control who
- 22:52Speaker 10: holds the majority come January.
- 22:54Speaker 9: And I would keep an eye on those four seats.
- 22:58Speaker 10: I sat down with all eight of the candidates, the
- 23:01Speaker 10: incumbents and the Democrats, and.
- 23:06Speaker 9: I think they could go either way.
- 23:08Speaker 10: And I could even give an argument that Republicans may
- 23:11Speaker 10: hold at least two, if maybe not all four of them.
- 23:16Speaker 2: Wow.
- 23:18Speaker 3: You know, Celia Zito, I know what the polls say, but-
- 23:25Speaker 3: I also know that every time a poll comes up
- 23:28Speaker 3: on my phone, which is fairly often I send it
- 23:32Speaker 3: to voicemail.
- 23:33Speaker 2: Or I ignore the text.
- 23:35Speaker 3: And I don't know any other conservatives who are eager
- 23:38Speaker 3: to talk to pollsters. I just think we are is
- 23:43Speaker 3: kind of conservative populists are, are so alienated. We don't
- 23:48Speaker 3: want to have everything, anything to do with these folks
- 23:50Speaker 3: while the kind of, you know, Chardonnay drinking, no Kings, uh,
- 23:57Speaker 3: you know, pinko people are eager to explain how they're
- 24:01Speaker 3: going to go out there and show that darn Trump
- 24:03Speaker 3: what for?
- 24:05Speaker 2: Am I am I off base?
- 24:07Speaker 10: No, I mean, Democrats are definitely, definitely enthusiastic.
- 24:12Speaker 9: They're very, very excited online and to their friends. We'll
- 24:18Speaker 9: see who shows up.
- 24:20Speaker 10: Everyone is saying there is a malaise around Republicans and
- 24:23Speaker 10: they're not going.
- 24:24Speaker 2: To show up.
- 24:25Speaker 10: I don't think they're willing to go backwards, even if
- 24:29Speaker 10: Trump has not fulfilled everything.
- 24:31Speaker 2: On their wish list.
- 24:33Speaker 9: I don't think that they're ready to put their cars.
- 24:35Speaker 10: In reverse either because they know what's coming if they
- 24:39Speaker 10: don't show up and vote.
- 24:43Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see, you know, if somebody said it's
- 24:45Speaker 3: very important that Trump shuts down the border when you
- 24:49Speaker 3: vote two years ago.
- 24:50Speaker 2: OK, shut down the border.
- 24:52Speaker 3: I'm mad at him because gas prices are slightly higher
- 24:55Speaker 3: because we're destroying a generational enemy that's killed thousands of Americans.
- 24:59Speaker 3: I'm going to vote for the people who will.
- 25:01Speaker 2: Let the entire third world in.
- 25:03Speaker 3: I'm just not seeing that, Selena Zito.
- 25:06Speaker 9: Yeah, I struggle.
- 25:08Speaker 10: I mean, yes, people are mad about high gas prices.
- 25:12Speaker 10: As someone who drives 60,000 miles a year, sometimes I
- 25:16Speaker 10: don't really care for it. But then the answer to
- 25:22Speaker 10: the other part of that equation is Iran. And anybody
- 25:27Speaker 10: who has any sort of just minor knowledge of history
- 25:31Speaker 10: knows knows what Iran has done to our treasure, which
- 25:35Speaker 10: is our people, for four decades. And, you know, that's
- 25:41Speaker 10: something that people consider and they think about more so
- 25:44Speaker 10: than we give them credit for.
- 25:46Speaker 3: Do you think it would help if Donald Trump stays
- 25:49Speaker 3: out on the road?
- 25:50Speaker 2: We had lots of clips of J.D. in North Carolina.
- 25:56Speaker 3: Make the election about showing up? Pretend I'm on the ballot.
- 26:01Speaker 3: Show up for me. Do you think that's going to work?
- 26:03Speaker 9: I mean, nobody sells their.
- 26:06Speaker 10: What they want to do and what they accomplish better
- 26:08Speaker 10: than President Trump and Vice President Vance. There's no downside
- 26:12Speaker 10: for them showing up.
- 26:16Speaker 9: It gets people riled up. It reminds them why they
- 26:19Speaker 9: did vote for him. It reminds them of the things
- 26:21Speaker 9: that are important to them. So I think that's important
- 26:24Speaker 9: that they do that.
- 26:26Speaker 3: Well, Salina, you need to go get Butler and get
- 26:34Speaker 3: some corn. Everything she does with the Washington Post and
- 26:39Speaker 3: the Washington Examiner. I'm Kurt Schlichter.
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- 29:33Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Hugh Hewitt Show. I'm guest host
- 29:35Speaker 3: Kirk Schlichter.
- 29:36Speaker 2: And oh, how the tables have turned. Yes.
- 29:41Speaker 3: I am now welcoming to the Hugh Hewitt Show, my pal,
- 29:45Speaker 3: Chris DeGaulle. You might know him as a, oh, there
- 29:48Speaker 3: he is, as a radio host. He's had me on, gosh,
- 29:53Speaker 3: five or six iterations of his shows over 10 years.
- 29:57Speaker 2: I was always the guest. I was also Mr.
- 30:00Speaker 9: Funny.
- 30:00Speaker 2: Here I come, dancing for quarters. Now it's your turn, Mr. Congressman.
- 30:07Speaker 2: Welcome to the Hugh Hewitt Show.
- 30:08Speaker 3: I don't have anything to sell.
- 30:09Speaker 5: I don't have anything.
- 30:10Speaker 12: I got to write myself a book or something, Kurt.
- 30:12Speaker 12: I don't have anything to sell like you do.
- 30:14Speaker 3: You mean like American Warlord, available on Amazon, coming out
- 30:17Speaker 3: November 3rd?
- 30:19Speaker 5: See, some leopards never change their stripes. I knew you'd
- 30:21Speaker 5: work something in. Surely you had a sales pitch.
- 30:24Speaker 2: Hey, man, I don't have stripes. I have eagles, baby. Chris.
- 30:31Speaker 3: It is so weird that I'm going to have like
- 30:34Speaker 3: a buddy in Congress because you and I are actual friends.
- 30:38Speaker 3: We've hung out. At one point we drank together and
- 30:42Speaker 3: then you watched me drink.
- 30:44Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, we.
- 30:46Speaker 5: Like I drink. Yeah, I did very, very well with
- 30:50Speaker 5: you for a long time. I couldn't keep up. I
- 30:53Speaker 5: had to just submit and say I'm a lesser man.
- 30:56Speaker 5: You carry on.
- 30:56Speaker 2: You are not a lesser man. You're a great man.
- 30:59Speaker 3: And you are and you're stepping up for the 6th
- 31:02Speaker 3: District of Missouri.
- 31:03Speaker 2: My gosh, you're going to be a congressman.
- 31:06Speaker 12: You know, Colonel, it's one of those things that I
- 31:08Speaker 12: just you're a very, very accomplished attorney. You're a brilliant author, commentator.
- 31:13Speaker 12: Your voice is heard by millions all over the country annually,
- 31:17Speaker 12: you know, and I did my best for a long
- 31:19Speaker 12: while to do that. But my congressman, Sam Graves, who
- 31:23Speaker 12: represents the 6th Congressional District, he's been at it for
- 31:25Speaker 12: 26 years and done it very well. But I just
- 31:28Speaker 12: got to a point where I finally felt like. you know,
- 31:30Speaker 12: he's stepping down. It's time for me to step up
- 31:34Speaker 12: because I love my home. I moved back to North
- 31:36Speaker 12: Missouri because I love this place and my kids live
- 31:38Speaker 12: here and my wife lives here and my friends and
- 31:40Speaker 12: family live here. And I've talked a big game for
- 31:44Speaker 12: 25 years and I just felt like, I know, as
- 31:47Speaker 12: Rush used to say, the American left like every square
- 31:50Speaker 12: inch of my glorious naked body.
- 31:53Speaker 5: I know these people. I know how they battle.
- 31:55Speaker 12: And we know the issues because you and I have
- 31:57Speaker 12: talked about them for years. And I thought to myself, well,
- 31:59Speaker 12: if ever there were a time in my life. To
- 32:01Speaker 12: step up and serve in the small way that I can,
- 32:06Speaker 12: maybe now's the time. Donald Trump didn't need the job.
- 32:08Speaker 12: I tell people on the campaign trail, I didn't need
- 32:11Speaker 12: the job. I wasn't looking for work. But I think
- 32:14Speaker 12: I'm best equipped in 2026 to do this job.
- 32:16Speaker 5: So here we go.
- 32:18Speaker 3: See, I mean, it's so crazy that one of your
- 32:21Speaker 3: buddies is going to be a congressman. You know, a
- 32:23Speaker 3: dude that you, like, text semi-obscene things to.
- 32:27Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 32:29Speaker 12: You text them to me just to be clear. If
- 32:31Speaker 12: the FBI is monitoring you, you send them to me.
- 32:34Speaker 12: I don't send them to you.
- 32:35Speaker 3: You follow my advice as a as an attorney, which
- 32:38Speaker 3: will not disclose here. But but but in a way,
- 32:43Speaker 3: I mean, isn't it cool that like a guy, you know.
- 32:50Speaker 3: can step up and say, I think I have something
- 32:53Speaker 3: to say. I think I have some ideas. I think
- 32:56Speaker 3: I can do good things for the country. And I'd
- 32:59Speaker 3: like to throw my hat.
- 33:00Speaker 4: In the ring.
- 33:02Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, Colonel, I just feel like for too
- 33:07Speaker 12: long people have said if you haven't held elected office before,
- 33:13Speaker 12: you're disqualified from running. I've had that criticism lobbed at
- 33:17Speaker 12: me a couple of times. Well, have you ever held
- 33:19Speaker 12: an office before? What do you know about running for office?
- 33:21Speaker 5: And I remind folks.
- 33:23Speaker 12: This country wasn't founded by people who held an elected office.
- 33:26Speaker 5: That shouldn't be the qualifications.
- 33:29Speaker 12: In fact, I think, and I've met some folks who
- 33:32Speaker 12: are running around the country just like me, neurosurgeons, farmers, veterinarians.
- 33:38Speaker 12: You know, some some attorneys, very accomplished people in the
- 33:42Speaker 12: private sector who have stepped up and said, I'm going
- 33:45Speaker 12: to leave my life for a time. We're not looking
- 33:47Speaker 12: for careers. I'm certainly not. I hope someday I'll go
- 33:50Speaker 12: back to work doing this. But for a time, I
- 33:53Speaker 12: don't know. What does that look like? A decade or whatever?
- 33:55Speaker 5: I don't know. I mean, as long as the folks
- 33:57Speaker 5: will have me and I like doing the job and
- 33:58Speaker 5: do it well.
- 33:59Speaker 12: But I'm not going to be one of these people, Kurt, that,
- 34:01Speaker 12: you know, you wonder whether he's dead or alive and
- 34:03Speaker 12: is being wheeled around it.
- 34:04Speaker 5: You know, 88 or whatever the hell.
- 34:06Speaker 12: Like, I'm going to do this for a while and
- 34:08Speaker 12: do it well, and then I'm going to return to
- 34:09Speaker 12: my private sector life. And I think that's exactly– our
- 34:12Speaker 12: founders designed the system exactly that way.
- 34:15Speaker 3: There's no other country on earth, and I've lived in
- 34:19Speaker 3: several other countries on earth, where– Just a regular guy.
- 34:25Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you were on the radio. That's something.
- 34:27Speaker 3: But you are, for people who don't know Chris, he
- 34:31Speaker 3: is one of the most resolutely normal people I've ever met.
- 34:36Speaker 3: I like hanging around him because I feel like less weird.
- 34:42Speaker 3: And it is just so great that we have a
- 34:47Speaker 3: country where Regular guys who want to do regular things,
- 34:51Speaker 3: I want to be with my family, I want to
- 34:52Speaker 3: go to church, I want to, you know, just make
- 34:55Speaker 3: my community a little better, can actually get to a
- 34:58Speaker 3: place where they can exercise some power to do that.
- 35:02Speaker 12: And I think what you just said, and I really
- 35:04Speaker 12: appreciate that. I take it as a high compliment. But
- 35:06Speaker 12: the fact of the matter is the vast majority of
- 35:08Speaker 12: this country, and certainly throughout North Missouri, Kurt, are normal
- 35:12Speaker 12: people who really don't want for much. They're not running
- 35:14Speaker 12: around with their hands out. They're not crying for government assistance.
- 35:19Speaker 12: They really just want to be left alone. And every
- 35:21Speaker 12: small and large business owner and operator that I meet,
- 35:25Speaker 12: every farmer that I meet, with almost out of exception–
- 35:29Speaker 12: What they all share in common is an irritation that Washington, D.C.
- 35:33Speaker 12: has gotten too big and complicated their regular normal life
- 35:38Speaker 12: that they love and the country than the state that
- 35:40Speaker 12: they love. And so to me, we need more normal
- 35:44Speaker 12: folks who don't aspire to power. We know Democrats do.
- 35:47Speaker 12: They they run to acquire and consolidate power. A true, good,
- 35:52Speaker 12: normal person. And that's most of this country and certainly
- 35:55Speaker 12: in North Missouri. They're good, normal people who want power dispersed.
- 35:59Speaker 12: And the less they hear from Washington and the less
- 36:02Speaker 12: Washington is monkeying around in their lives, the better off
- 36:04Speaker 12: they are.
- 36:05Speaker 5: That's my goal.
- 36:07Speaker 3: Well, you know, Chris DeGaulle, I've known you for a decade.
- 36:10Speaker 3: And one of the things that I think makes you
- 36:12Speaker 3: super qualified for this job is that behind the scenes,
- 36:17Speaker 3: you're going to whine about it like a little teenage girl.
- 36:21Speaker 2: You're going to constantly complain about it. And that's good.
- 36:26Speaker 2: Because you're not going.
- 36:27Speaker 3: To like a lot of the things that go on.
- 36:29Speaker 2: It's not going to strike you as right or good.
- 36:32Speaker 3: And the fact that you could turn it into some
- 36:35Speaker 3: kind of personal aggrandizement will not appeal to you. Luckily,
- 36:38Speaker 3: you're surrounded by people like me and Larry O'Connor and,
- 36:42Speaker 3: of course, your wonderful family who will, you know, if
- 36:45Speaker 3: your head ever starts swelling, we will pierce it with
- 36:48Speaker 3: a pin.
- 36:49Speaker 2: But I'll turn Dennis Miller loose on you again. There's
- 36:52Speaker 2: a story.
- 36:54Speaker 5: Listen, I'll tell you this. You've been to D.C.
- 36:56Speaker 12: Plenty, you know, and I've said this to the team
- 36:59Speaker 12: that's helping me get there, hopefully, and we win this
- 37:01Speaker 12: election in November. I can see when you visit that
- 37:04Speaker 12: place for any amount of time, you get it quickly,
- 37:06Speaker 12: how it becomes a way of life, how people become
- 37:08Speaker 12: very accustomed to it. The trappings of it, the bubble
- 37:12Speaker 12: of it. It's not a real place. D.C. is like
- 37:15Speaker 12: its own planet. People don't they're not aware of the economy.
- 37:18Speaker 12: People are just constantly spending money, dining out, building high
- 37:22Speaker 12: rise condos, paying three and four grand a month for rent.
- 37:26Speaker 12: And it's like it doesn't faze those people. And it's
- 37:28Speaker 12: not money's not real. The economy's not real. And you
- 37:32Speaker 12: realize quickly why people make that their lifestyle there. They
- 37:36Speaker 12: buy homes there and they never return to their home
- 37:39Speaker 12: state or home district. And I have said repeatedly to
- 37:41Speaker 12: everyone I know and love, I'm coming home. I'm getting
- 37:44Speaker 12: on the plane as fast as I can every weekend.
- 37:47Speaker 12: And I'm going to come home and I'm going to
- 37:48Speaker 12: be in my church pew with my wife. I'm going
- 37:50Speaker 12: to be leading my Bible study. And I'm going to
- 37:53Speaker 12: tour and travel my district. Because as long as I'm
- 37:55Speaker 12: doing this, I'm a representative of the 6th Congressional District
- 37:58Speaker 12: of Missouri, not Washington, D.C. And I never want to
- 38:01Speaker 12: get comfortable there. Never.
- 38:03Speaker 3: Well, we're going to do our best not to let you. And,
- 38:05Speaker 3: of course, I don't know if it's in your district.
- 38:08Speaker 3: Is Parkville, Missouri in your district?
- 38:11Speaker 5: Yes, sir. Proud, fighting Platt County. Parkville is right there
- 38:15Speaker 5: in Platt County.
- 38:15Speaker 3: I lived there when I was a kid on Nottoway Drive.
- 38:18Speaker 3: I went to Graydon Elementary.
- 38:21Speaker 2: Awesome. And I know those people there.
- 38:24Speaker 1: Go ahead.
- 38:25Speaker 2: Go ahead.
- 38:27Speaker 12: Well, I was just at their Republican headquarters grand opening
- 38:31Speaker 12: over the weekend there in Platt County. They are one
- 38:34Speaker 12: of our biggest, most populated counties in the 6th Congressional District,
- 38:38Speaker 12: and we're going to keep them red in November.
- 38:41Speaker 3: Well, they are patriotic Americans, lots of veterans, and they
- 38:45Speaker 3: are exactly the kind of guy who will love– having
- 38:50Speaker 3: a congressman named Chris Stegall. Chris, congratulations. I know you'll
- 38:54Speaker 3: do great. And don't worry, Larry and I will keep
- 38:57Speaker 3: you honest. I'm Kurt Schlichter. This is the Hugh Hewitt Show.