Latest / The Body Pod / RE-RUN - Understanding Insulin Resistance: Expert Insights with Dr. Stacy Sims
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Today on the Body Pod, we are re running one
- 0:03Speaker 1: of our most popular episodes from last season with doctor
- 0:07Speaker 1: Stacy Simms. Stacy is not only my business partner, but
- 0:11Speaker 1: a dear friend, and in this short episode we cover
- 0:14Speaker 1: insulin resistance and how it really creeps up in perimenopause.
- 0:19Speaker 1: So enjoy this short session with doctor Stacy Simms. Hi everyone,
- 0:25Speaker 1: my name is Haley and this is Lara and welcome
- 0:27Speaker 1: to the Body Pod. Hi everyone, welcome back. We are
- 0:37Speaker 1: so excited. I'm so excited I have doctor Stacy Simms.
- 0:41Speaker 1: I'm actually sitting in New Zealand with her right now,
- 0:45Speaker 1: and we decided to answer some questions that have come
- 0:48Speaker 1: up since we did our Instagram life a couple of
- 0:50Speaker 1: weeks ago. So Stacy, are you ready?
- 0:53Speaker 2: Yes, let's go.
- 0:55Speaker 1: All right. So, a question that a few of you
- 0:57Speaker 1: asked had to do with insulin resistance and if this
- 1:00Speaker 1: is a piry post menopause symptom.
- 1:05Speaker 2: We do see insulin resistance coming up in perimenopause, so
- 1:09Speaker 2: this can contribute to some of that abdominal adipacity, some
- 1:13Speaker 2: of the serial fat gain. So what we need to
- 1:16Speaker 2: be very mindful of is making sure that we are
- 1:19Speaker 2: doing our high intensity work because that does help with
- 1:22Speaker 2: metabolic control as well as a type of carbohydrate we're eating.
- 1:26Speaker 2: So if we're talking about changing and having more fruit
- 1:28Speaker 2: and veg, make sure they're very fibrous for our gut,
- 1:31Speaker 2: but also to help moderate and modulate that insulin resistance.
- 1:35Speaker 1: Okay, So it really comes down to dyeing an exercise. Yeah,
- 1:40Speaker 1: like everything else exactly.
- 1:41Speaker 2: And the other thing is I know that I always
- 1:44Speaker 2: harp about strength training and the more metabolically active tissue
- 1:48Speaker 2: we have by building that lean mass, the better it
- 1:51Speaker 2: helps with our insulin and our glucose control. Because as
- 1:55Speaker 2: we are training and we are teaching our skeletal muscle
- 1:58Speaker 2: to be active by theft and doing high intensity work,
- 2:02Speaker 2: it's also telling the muscle that we don't need insulin
- 2:05Speaker 2: to pull that blood sugar in, so then we are
- 2:07Speaker 2: able to rely less on insulin to have better blood
- 2:10Speaker 2: glucose control. So this is another reason why we're always
- 2:13Speaker 2: harping on that high intensity spread interval for metabolic control
- 2:17Speaker 2: as well as that strength training to get more metabolically
- 2:21Speaker 2: active tissue to help with blood glucose control.
- 2:24Speaker 1: Okay, So anyone that is aging, say entering that perimenopause
- 2:30Speaker 1: phase somewhere in the late thirties forties. Whenever they're hitting
- 2:33Speaker 1: that do you recommend and when you're recommending that carbohydrate,
- 2:39Speaker 1: we know that plays a role. You're not saying to
- 2:43Speaker 1: eliminate carbohydrate or go very low carb but not because
- 2:46Speaker 1: of the insulin.
- 2:47Speaker 2: Resist not at all. I'm saying, instead of eating more
- 2:53Speaker 2: refined simple carbohydrates, which we tend to gravitate towards, especially
- 2:57Speaker 2: in the States, we don't want to go with ultra
- 2:59Speaker 2: pross foods. These process the better. So we're looking at bananas, pairs, peaches, carrots, apples, potatoes,
- 3:09Speaker 2: rice spilt, any ancient grains, anything that has fiber with
- 3:13Speaker 2: carbohydrate screen. Women need carbohydrate. You need it to fuel
- 3:17Speaker 2: your brain, you need to fuel your muscles. Help avoid
- 3:21Speaker 2: getting into a low energy situation because when we have
- 3:23Speaker 2: low carbohydrate intake, it can be perceived as low energy availability.
- 3:28Speaker 2: So it's not the elimination of carbohydrate, it's not dropping
- 3:31Speaker 2: it to a low point. It's being very mindful of
- 3:33Speaker 2: the kinds of carbohydrates you're eating. And you do have
- 3:37Speaker 2: the opportunity, if you are someone who loves more simple carbohydrates,
- 3:41Speaker 2: to have that before and after training because before training,
- 3:44Speaker 2: your blood glucose comes up, you use that during training,
- 3:47Speaker 2: then after you have an acute window of recovery where
- 3:51Speaker 2: glucose is up taken into the muscle without the use
- 3:55Speaker 2: of insulin. Okay, so we're still fueling for the demands
- 3:58Speaker 2: of training. We're just being art with our carbohydrates. And
- 4:02Speaker 2: is this something that people that women will figure out
- 4:06Speaker 2: or find out if they're insulin sensitive by a blood
- 4:09Speaker 2: test or can it be they just don't feel great?
- 4:12Speaker 2: Does it have to be diagnosed with a blood test?
- 4:14Speaker 2: It doesn't. But you'll find that you might be putting
- 4:18Speaker 2: on a little bit of extra body fat if you're
- 4:20Speaker 2: eating more carb than you know. You're eating pasta meal
- 4:26Speaker 2: or something, and you've always been doing that, and then
- 4:28Speaker 2: all of a sudden you're like, why am I putting
- 4:30Speaker 2: more weight on? I don't understand that. Then it's like,
- 4:32Speaker 2: let's change to pulse pasta instead of wheat pasta. So
- 4:35Speaker 2: you're just putting more protein fiber in with that carbohydrate.
- 4:39Speaker 2: And then you'll notice that, oh, Okay, I'm feeling better,
- 4:42Speaker 2: I'm not as bloated, I'm not holding on to as
- 4:45Speaker 2: much weight is coming off a little bit easier. So
- 4:49Speaker 2: you'll start seeing signs and symptoms. If you're really worried
- 4:52Speaker 2: and you have a family history of diabetes, or you
- 4:55Speaker 2: have preclamcy or anything like that, any complications during pregnancy,
- 4:59Speaker 2: and yeah, you might want to get a fascinating lucas.
- 5:03Speaker 1: Okay, and if women, So we talked a little bit
- 5:06Speaker 1: about strength training. We both talk about this a lot
- 5:10Speaker 1: for women that are postmenopausal and they're hearing the message
- 5:15Speaker 1: about strength training, but there's still a little bit timid
- 5:19Speaker 1: fearing injury. There's still a way that they can work
- 5:23Speaker 1: around that strength training without this fear. There's more than
- 5:27Speaker 1: one method to the heavy lifting.
- 5:30Speaker 2: Yeah, so I want people to realize that we're not
- 5:33Speaker 2: talking about a training block. We're talking about a lifestale change.
- 5:37Speaker 2: We're looking for the eye of resistance training the rest
- 5:39Speaker 2: of our lives. So we want to encompass a lot
- 5:42Speaker 2: of mobility work, some functional movement work. So we're looking
- 5:46Speaker 2: at how do I squat, what are my sticking points,
- 5:48Speaker 2: how are my knees, my hips, my ankle is flexibility there,
- 5:52Speaker 2: you're working on mobility through that range of motion before
- 5:55Speaker 2: you add load. If you're someone who is compromised in
- 5:59Speaker 2: their squat position instead of trying to do a deep squat,
- 6:02Speaker 2: you're squatting to a box or you're squatting to a
- 6:05Speaker 2: box with the plateon it. So you're within your own
- 6:08Speaker 2: range of motion. You're developing strength, but as you're getting
- 6:10Speaker 2: stronger in that range of motion, you also are able
- 6:13Speaker 2: to increase your range of motion. So we want to
- 6:15Speaker 2: make sure that you move well before you add load.
- 6:19Speaker 2: And when we say lifting heavy, it's all relative. So
- 6:22Speaker 2: if you don't have a history and strength training, you know,
- 6:24Speaker 2: not even go in and start trying to squat sixty
- 6:28Speaker 2: kilos or you know one hundred and fifty pounds. You
- 6:32Speaker 2: are going to go in and start with maybe some dumbells,
- 6:34Speaker 2: maybe you start with a twenty pound bar instead of
- 6:38Speaker 2: a forty five pound bar. So it's all within your
- 6:41Speaker 2: own individual capabilities, with the eye of being able to
- 6:44Speaker 2: add load as your mobility gets better, as your ligaments
- 6:48Speaker 2: and your muscles and tendons all get stronger, it's not
- 6:52Speaker 2: the eye of going in I got to do this
- 6:53Speaker 2: right now, get injured and the stuff.
- 6:56Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, And this question always gets brought up too.
- 6:59Speaker 1: I feel like answered again for someone that is doing
- 7:04Speaker 1: maybe pladus, which has multiple benefits, and what we should
- 7:10Speaker 1: be focusing on when we're doing plateus is all of
- 7:12Speaker 1: those major benefits. But say, like the cardio classes where
- 7:16Speaker 1: they're using a jump board, is that considered like could
- 7:20Speaker 1: that be considered plometrics or heavy lifting or is there
- 7:23Speaker 1: a difference.
- 7:24Speaker 2: When we look at the jump board or in plates.
- 7:27Speaker 2: It's not typical plymetrics because of what we're after with
- 7:30Speaker 2: true primetrics is the rebound effect from the grounds. You're
- 7:34Speaker 2: getting that fast explosiveness as well as that absorption through
- 7:39Speaker 2: the bone and the muscle, so that you're getting more
- 7:41Speaker 2: than just the power part of the plyometrics. We're looking
- 7:45Speaker 2: for bone mineral density increases. We're looking for the tendon
- 7:50Speaker 2: and the ligaments to respond to it. In kind. If
- 7:54Speaker 2: someone has really bad joints and they're or afraid of
- 7:57Speaker 2: some of those power moves, then maybe starting the jump
- 8:00Speaker 2: board because it's already in their PLATES class, is one
- 8:03Speaker 2: way to start to feel what it's like to jump
- 8:05Speaker 2: off something. But I'd rather people go with the eye
- 8:09Speaker 2: of doing a very low depth jump so they're understanding
- 8:12Speaker 2: what it feels like to step off something, do a
- 8:15Speaker 2: proper landing with soft knees. Absorbing through the muscles and
- 8:19Speaker 2: not necessarily the joints and then building up because there's
- 8:23Speaker 2: so many more benefits to doing true pliometric work rather
- 8:28Speaker 2: than something that is a jump board. And I don't
- 8:30Speaker 2: want people who do.
- 8:31Speaker 1: Plotis to hate me.
- 8:32Speaker 2: I'm not a hater on it. I'm just saying, like,
- 8:34Speaker 2: when we're talking about plyometric and the explosiveness, it's better
- 8:38Speaker 2: to get really comfortable doing real plyometric like the depth
- 8:44Speaker 2: jumps or the box jumpster jumping lunges or even things
- 8:47Speaker 2: like jumping rope. You want that explosive kind of movement
- 8:51Speaker 2: for bone mineral density as well as the power.
- 8:54Speaker 1: Okay, so really to some things up when we talk
- 8:58Speaker 1: about this phase of life that we're entering into our
- 9:03Speaker 1: late thirties, our early forties, whatever we want to Whether
- 9:06Speaker 1: we're in perimenopause, we're not there yet. We're getting into menopause.
- 9:10Speaker 1: The lifestyle, everything that you just touched on is a
- 9:13Speaker 1: lifestyle approach. It's not just for this time period while
- 9:18Speaker 1: you're transitioning into menopause or right when you hit menopause.
- 9:21Speaker 1: This is what we need to look forward to with
- 9:23Speaker 1: the nutrition with a carbohydrate intake as well as the
- 9:27Speaker 1: fitness of heavy lifting and going that route for the
- 9:31Speaker 1: rest of our life. This doesn't change, right.
- 9:34Speaker 2: I get a lot of questions of when do I
- 9:36Speaker 2: know I should start veering towards the peri and postmenopausal
- 9:41Speaker 2: type of training, or I'm postmenopausal, how does this apply
- 9:45Speaker 2: to me? So when I'm talking about the sprint interval
- 9:48Speaker 2: training and the resistance training and taking care of our
- 9:50Speaker 2: gut and the right kind of carbohydrate, I really want
- 9:54Speaker 2: people who or women who are in their early forties
- 9:58Speaker 2: to kind of start transitioning that way. And then definitely
- 10:01Speaker 2: in your late forties, you are definitely a perimenopausal, so
- 10:05Speaker 2: you want to incorporate more of that external stress to
- 10:09Speaker 2: cause those adaptations. If your postmental puzzle, it's not too
- 10:13Speaker 2: late to start, Like we want you to say, Oh, okay,
- 10:17Speaker 2: these are the things that are applicable for my body.
- 10:19Speaker 2: Now I don't have estrogen progesterone. I need to find
- 10:23Speaker 2: an external stress that's going to cause these adaptations the
- 10:25Speaker 2: way that my body used to respond to when I
- 10:28Speaker 2: had estrogen progesterone. I'm really concerned about the quality of
- 10:31Speaker 2: my muscle. I'm concerned about my bow mineral density. So
- 10:35Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty minutes of modern intensity activity is
- 10:37Speaker 2: not right for my body when I'm postmenopausele If I'm
- 10:41Speaker 2: already moving, great, but I need to look at doing
- 10:44Speaker 2: some spread andr wal work. I need to look at
- 10:45Speaker 2: doing resistance training into heavy lifting, but it takes time.
- 10:49Speaker 2: I want to look at my ability because I don't
- 10:51Speaker 2: want to get injured. So all of this is with
- 10:53Speaker 2: the eye to how I'm going to be ninety plus
- 10:57Speaker 2: and still be independently living. We see that as you
- 11:00Speaker 2: get older, you need smaller volume, so small doses of
- 11:06Speaker 2: intensity and resistance training in a regular time period. So
- 11:10Speaker 2: we're looking at, you know, five to six days a
- 11:12Speaker 2: week of ten to twenty minutes every day rather than
- 11:16Speaker 2: three times a week of a big session. You need
- 11:18Speaker 2: smaller doses just because the body needs that reminder of
- 11:22Speaker 2: what we're doing.
- 11:23Speaker 1: Yes, and I love how you said that it's never
- 11:27Speaker 1: too late. So there's a lot of women on here
- 11:30Speaker 1: that have been endurance athletes and they just might need
- 11:33Speaker 1: to add in more of that heavy strength training and
- 11:36Speaker 1: shift from a lot of that low intensity work. But
- 11:39Speaker 1: there's also women that I think we're both very passionate about.
- 11:43Speaker 1: It is never too late to start even if you
- 11:45Speaker 1: have walked your whole life and that's it. There is
- 11:48Speaker 1: a place for everyone with strength training, with cliometrics, with mobility,
- 11:52Speaker 1: and with this nutrition changes absolutely.
- 11:56Speaker 2: My husband sent me a link from the National News
- 11:59Speaker 2: Radio News, the equivalent of MPR. They're interviewing this guy
- 12:04Speaker 2: that started resistance training when he was seventy six. Now
- 12:07Speaker 2: he's ninety six, and he's way stronger independently living. And
- 12:11Speaker 2: then we look at someone like train with Joan On.
- 12:15Speaker 2: She started lifting and taking care of herself with high
- 12:17Speaker 2: intensity work when she's in her mid sixties, and now
- 12:20Speaker 2: she's seventy something. It's stronger and more robust now than
- 12:23Speaker 2: she was earlier. So it's never too late to start.
- 12:27Speaker 1: I love that well. Thank you so much, Dacy. This
- 12:29Speaker 1: has been such a fascinating quick little podcast to answer
- 12:33Speaker 1: some episodes, so we look forward to having one again.
- 12:37Speaker 1: Thanks for listening everyone.
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