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The Unseen Character of a Man with Brant Hansen and Dads and Daughters with Dr. Michelle Watson Canfield · Karl and Crew

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  S1: Broadcasting from Chicago, across North America and beyond. It's Carl
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  S1: and crew.
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  S2: Come as you are an experienced guide, overcome what seems
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  S2: impossible and live as you never imagined.
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  S1: Start your morning with a laugh.
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  S2: Cold spaghetti's. Great. Okay.
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  S3: Okay, I disagree. I guess not. No, certainly it is not. No. Okay. Well, man,
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  S3: I'm going back.
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  S2: To my bachelor days. I guess I thought cold spaghetti
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  S2: was universally loved.
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  S4: I've never been known for, like, high levels of coordination.
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  S4: That's just. And it feels like.
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  S2: I've never been known for high levels of coordination.
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  S1: Delivering the truth daily.
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  S4: If it were possible to have every worldly gain available.
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  S4: And you're forfeiting your soul. There's no amount of gain
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  S4: that would make it worth it.
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  S5: Our own way never ever works because it's apart from
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  S5: the life source, which is God.
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  S6: For me. Growing up, love was always conditional and can
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  S6: be taken from you. Christ. Love can't. And he went
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  S6: to the cross with my mind and my heart that night.
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  S1: Now from the call of Hope Studios, this is Carl
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  S1: and crew.
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  S3: I gotta.
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  S2: Get some fresh pictures of blaze.
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  S3: Guys.
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  S2: Boom! Crew. You gotta see this guy. What is he now?
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  S2: What's the date today? What is the.
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  S3: Date?
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  S5: It's the 17th of June.
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  S2: Boy, he's coming up on nine months old already. Isn't
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  S2: that something?
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  S3: Wow, that was quick.
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  S2: Almost seven months. Boy, I love that guy. Early this morning,
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  S2: I opened up the kennel door and he got up
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  S2: and he looked at me like I got. I got
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  S2: to go to the bathroom. But man, I was really
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  S2: loving sleeping. And he's like every teenager, right?
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  S3: Hard time getting up.
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  S2: I really gotta go. But man, it's hard to get
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  S2: off this thing and, uh, took him outside. So I've
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  S2: been obviously walking every day. Long walks. If I don't
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  S2: take him out for a 40 minute or. Now. And
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  S2: by the way, it is full tilt, I've got to
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  S2: somehow time this. I think I'm walking at about four
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  S2: and a half, close to five miles per hour.
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  S3: I mean, really?
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  S2: Oh yeah, I am close to speed walking.
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  S4: Do you wear a watch or anything to track your
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  S4: steps or anything?
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  S2: Yeah, I've got my smart ring on. So yeah, the
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  S2: amount of steps I get in one go is probably,
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  S2: I don't know, 5500 or something.
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  S4: That's that's a brisk yes. Brisk walk.
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  S2: Yeah. It is a brisk walk. And I mean we're
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  S2: going in this guy, his legs are so long. He's
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  S2: just in case you're new to the show here I've
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  S2: got Blaise Pascal. So I named him after so Blaise,
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  S2: I went to Alaska and got him from a guy
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  S2: named amidst CV who's won the Iditarod three times and
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  S2: he's the result of 19 generations of breeding for top
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  S2: flight Iditarod dog right, which is bred for, uh, good feet.
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  S2: Feet that can handle, uh, wear and tear of the
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  S2: snow mile after mile after mile. A good appetite, uh,
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  S2: big importance. Uh, dogs that can't eat under pressure, can't
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  S2: compete under pressure. They got to have a certain amount
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  S2: of calorie intake because they're burning so much off. And
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  S2: I think the third virtue, well, there's actually four virtues.
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  S2: They can drink under pressure. They, they can hydrate. Some
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  S2: dogs get really tired and they don't want to drink.
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  S2: So those dogs don't make it into the breeding pool.
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  S2: And then the fourth attribute is they don't fight. They've
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  S2: got moms and dads that are not fighters. Isn't that interesting?
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  S4: That is interesting.
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  S2: Isn't that.
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  S3: Fascinating?
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  S4: They have to have a certain. I mean, this is
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  S4: more personality than breeding, but there's. They got to have
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  S4: a certain amount of like grit to their like a
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  S4: willingness to not physically fight, but to like fight through
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  S4: a little bit of adversity. Right.
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  S3: Oh.
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  S2: Ali, that is the you, you hit it. So you're
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  S2: a dog boy. You're a you're a budding Iditarod musher.
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  S3: That's.
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  S4: Yeah. I really think I'm qualified to run that.
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  S3: I think she's.
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  S4: Running 100 mile dog race from Nome, Alaska.
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  S2: I knew she was thinking about it. Super nice. Thanks
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  S2: for popping that out.
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  S3: Sure.
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  S2: Yeah. No, they've got to be built for grit, and
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  S2: they've got to be tough and they've got to be competitive.
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  S2: And this guy blaze, he's got all of that, man.
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  S2: So here's what's funny about his physical development. He's got
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  S2: a build like a greyhound. Little slope back long legs
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  S2: not like a greyhound, but similar to a greyhound. I mean,
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  S2: greyhounds are a species of their own. I mean, they
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  S2: are a breed of their own. They're beautiful, aren't they?
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  S2: I've got a couple neighbors that have done this rescue
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  S2: thing of these retired greyhounds, and they are the coolest
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  S2: looking animal. I mean, they are just they are. Talk
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  S2: about aerodynamic.
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  S5: They look like little aliens.
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  S2: I mean, their schnozzle, their nose alone doesn't doesn't get
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  S2: any wind resistance. It pierces the wind. But it's just.
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  S2: I just love greyhounds anyway. So he's got a little
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  S2: bit of a Greyhound look, but then he's got a
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  S2: distinct look of wolf. I mean, honestly.
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  S3: I love that. Absolutely.
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  S2: You gotta come. And he's not wolf. There's no wolf
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  S2: in his breeding. I mean, you go way back. Obviously,
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  S2: there's some some kind of inbreeding going on there, but.
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  S2: Oh my goodness. So he's got and then he's got
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  S2: one other feature that's really funny. Full puppy face. Full
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  S2: happy puppy face in my bride. I came back from
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  S2: a walk. I said, oh man, there were so many
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  S2: walkers out today and I always. My act of chivalry
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  S2: for men or for women and men alike, is. I
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  S2: pull him off the path and I get into some
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  S2: grass and I hold them close to me, and I
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  S2: keep trucking. And people are like, thank you. And I'm like,
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  S2: you got it. And I always say he he's just
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  S2: a puppy and he's super friendly and I just keep trucking.
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  S2: But I'm wanting people to know around the neighborhood. He's a,
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  S2: he's a good boy and he's not going to hurt him.
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  S2: And he wouldn't he wouldn't hurt him at all. There's
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  S2: no way he's he's a licker, not a fighter or
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  S2: a biter, I'll tell you.
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  S4: But but I appreciate that you do keep him close
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  S4: to you.
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  S3: Yeah.
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  S2: Because as as I'm coming, some people will cross the
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  S2: street when they see him coming from a long ways away.
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  S3: Oh, wow.
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  S2: And I'm like, oh, no. I wish they knew Blaize and.
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  S3: Just.
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  S5: Let him go. Next time let him run at them
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  S5: and see. Then show him how nice he is.
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  S4: That is one of my pet peeves. That's one of my.
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  S3: Pet peeves.
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  S4: As someone who is not. I used to be terrified
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  S4: of dogs when I was. When I was a kid.
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  S4: I had a dog kind of jump at me or
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  S4: I don't even. He didn't hurt.
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  S3: Me.
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  S2: But.
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  S4: I had a bad experience with a dog when I
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  S4: was really little. And so for years I was terrified
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  S4: of even the smallest little dogs. And so I'm not
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  S4: obviously I'm not scared of dogs anymore, but I'm also
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  S4: not somebody who's really comfortable around dogs. So I appreciate
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  S4: when people give a little bit of space and, and
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  S4: are conscious about keeping their dog the leash kind of
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  S4: taut and keeping the dog close to them so that
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  S4: they can't run up and sniff you because that's intimidating.
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  S4: If you're not somebody who's like real familiar and comfortable
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  S4: with dogs.
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  S5: No. And of course, I just say what I said
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  S5: in joking completely. I would.
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  S3: Never admit it, but some people.
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  S4: Do it. Some people let their dog run up, sniff
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  S4: on you, and.
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  S3: They're like, oh.
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  S4: He's friendly. He wouldn't hurt a fly. I'm like, are
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  S4: you sure about that? Have you told him this?
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  S3: Yeah. What is it?
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  S2: Why is.
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  S3: That blood.
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  S2: Pouring from my.
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  S3: Calf?
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  S4: Let's not test that theory.
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  S2: So I pull him out of the way. But. And
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  S2: you know the problem for poor blase. Honestly, guys, anything
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  S2: that moves, he's just like. There's a potential friend right there. Dad.
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  S2: Let's go see him. Please, please. So it's now he's
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  S2: got the routine down. He goes. Well, I guess I
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  S2: can't lick them either, so I'm and I and I
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  S2: comfort him. I say, bro, you're just scary looking. Your
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  S2: body's just scary looking. So he. But he does have
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  S2: a puppy face. I came back and Brad said, he's
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  S2: got such a puppy face. I said, babe, have you
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  S2: seen his body? She goes, yeah, yeah. He's kind of intimidating,
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  S2: isn't he?
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  S6: That face and that nose with the heart.
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  S3: Oh, he's.
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  S6: So.
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  S3: Cute.
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  S2: Yeah, he's got a little coloration on that pink on
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  S2: the top of his schnoz. So the heart's kind of
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  S2: filling in a little bit, but it's still there. And it's.
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  S2: I love this. You can't tell. I love this guy,
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  S2: can you?
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  S3: Yeah. No no.
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  S5: No, not at.
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  S3: All.
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  S2: I love this guy. And you know what he loves
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  S2: almost more than anything else. He loves every every time
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  S2: I pull him out of the kennel because a caller,
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  S2: no matter what kind of caller you have, it kind
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  S2: of creates a little bit of an itch spot for dogs.
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  S2: So you want to get underneath the collar and I'll
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  S2: scratch his neck and I'm scratching away. And my routine is,
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  S2: I love you, buddy. You're a good friend. I love
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  S2: you so much, Blaise. And I'm scratching and he's looking
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  S2: up at me like, oh, oh, a little longer, a
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  S2: little lower, a little on the top there. I mean,
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  S2: it's amazing how a dog can tell you where to scratch.
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  S5: Oh, 100%.
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  S2: And then if he gets the full deluxe. If I
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  S2: got time for the full deluxe thing, I'll start. I'll
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  S2: start scratching between his front legs right in that, uh,
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  S2: upper chest area. And he's like, oh, oh oh, oh, yeah,
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  S2: get that one a little bit more. It's the coolest
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  S2: thing on the planet. But here's, here's the interesting thing.
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  S2: We've been talking about chivalry all week. And it is
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  S2: because chivalry has a few different components. It's kind of
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  S2: a middle aged thing. Knights of the Round Table, but
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  S2: warrior for sure. But honor was a big thing for
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  S2: all people. Um, there was justice Pursuers that that's what
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  S2: they were. And they were especially good and honorable toward women.
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  S2: And I want to tee up a fun little question here, uh,
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  S2: because it comes in a lot of different ways. What
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  S2: does one act? And I'm asking you ladies in particular
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  S2: here because you get to put on display how real
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  S2: this is. Ali did it yesterday with a cool little story.
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  S2: But what is one act of chivalry you believe men
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  S2: should never stop practicing because you've experienced it? What is
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  S2: one act of chivalry you believe men should never stop
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  S2: practicing because you've experienced. And I'm talking about. No matter
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  S2: how culture changes and your. Your vote, ladies, is don't
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  S2: stop doing this. We'd love to get your phone calls
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  S2: on this one. Ladies. What is it? What's that act
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  S2: of chivalry? It's like, keep them coming, man. And you
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  S2: got a little brief story to share with it. 805. Five. 578. 98.
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  S2: Make the world a better place.
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  S3: Love it.
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  S2: I'm kind of getting goofy here, but we really can
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  S2: make the world a better place.
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  S3: Chivalry can do.
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  S5: That. Absolutely. I think that, uh, it's it's because it's
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  S5: God's design. I think that it just goes that simple.
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  S5: It can make the world a better place because it's
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  S5: God's design. Even people who aren't believers in Christ can
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  S5: make the world a little better because they're, they're operating
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  S5: within their being created in the image of God and
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  S5: doing doing something he made to be right.
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  S2: Yeah, it's kind of cool. So open up phone lines, ladies.
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  S2: Come on in. 805. Five, five, 78, 98. I think
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  S2: we're going to get some calls on this one.
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  S4: Let's hear from you ladies. One act of chivalry. You
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  S4: believe men should never stop practicing because you've experienced it. 805.
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  S4: Five five, 78, 98.
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  S1: The gospel changes everything.
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  S4: Where else am I going to find peace, joy, eternal
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  S4: life not found in anyone else?
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  S1: You're listening to cast and crew.
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  S2: We're talking chivalry all week long, stepping in here for
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  S2: a little bit of just good old fashioned fun, making
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  S2: the world a better place. And men, we want you
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  S2: to hear this because this matters. You got to hear
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  S2: from women sometimes, man. That's chivalry.
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  S4: I'm with.
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  S3: It.
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  S2: You're. I knew you were down with it, Ali. Uh,
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  S2: taking your calls right now. 800 555 7898. What is
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  S2: one act of chivalry you believe men, ladies should never
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  S2: stop practicing because you've experienced it? 805. Five. Five, 78, 98. Now,
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  S2: there's some low hanging fruit on this one. It appears.
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  S2: So I'm going to get in. Barbara from Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
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  S2: First time caller and Kathy from Winter Haven, Florida at
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  S2: the same time. All right, Barbara, you go first. What
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  S2: is that thing for you?
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  S7: Oh, if they would just open the doors for us.
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  S7: I just think that that's so respectful of women.
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  S2: I agree. But now you got Kathy with you in
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  S2: Florida as well, Winter Haven. Kathy, you with Barbara on
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  S2: this one, huh?
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  S8: Absolutely. I think it's so nice when you a man
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  S8: has walked in a restaurant, he sees your behind him.
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  S8: He holds the door up until you get in. It's
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  S8: very nice like that.
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  S2: What is it, ladies? About that. Barbara, I'm going to
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  S2: go back to you. What is it that does it
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  S2: just warm the cockles of your heart? Is it something
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  S2: that you saw as a kid growing up? What do
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  S2: you say.
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  S7: I because there's a there's sometime a lack of respect
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  S7: for women, as there has been in the past, because
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  S7: all throughout history women have not had.
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  S2: Your.
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  S7: Right side of the story. So I feel that this
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  S7: just shows the fact that you acknowledge the fact that
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  S7: I am a woman and that I can go forward
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  S7: in front of you, unless you're in such a big hurry,
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  S7: you know? Yeah. And it's that and it's still it's
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  S7: not excusable because you can't be in that big of
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  S7: a hurry. God's not in a hurry.
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  S2: Barbara. That's that's great. You know, Kathy, the funny thing
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  S2: about Jesus is he was the most egalitarian guy to
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  S2: come along by the time he landed there in the
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  S2: Middle East, in Jerusalem. It's it's a cool picture still
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  S2: to this day, isn't it, Kathy?
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  S7: It.
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  S8: Yes it is. It is. And I was a teacher,
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  S8: a high school teacher. And the kids always waited till
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  S8: the very last millisecond to walk into the room. And
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  S8: the boys are about knocking the girls down to get
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  S8: in the door. And I made them stop and let
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  S8: the girls go first. Why? Why? Because. So you don't
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  S8: knock them over, you know. Yeah. But. Yes. And then
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  S8: following Jesus on anything is wonderful.
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  S2: Oh, that is great. That is great. Barbara. First time caller.
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  S2: Fort Lauderdale and Kathy in Winter Haven, Florida. Thank you, ladies,
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  S2: for weighing in on this very same topic.
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  S3: How precious is that, Ali?
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  S4: The good old door held open for you still has
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  S4: style points.
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  S2: Let's get another quick call before we go to break.
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  S2: We're taking your calls, by the way, ladies. Come on
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  S2: right now. What one act of chivalry do you believe
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  S2: men should never stop practicing because you've experienced it? Call
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  S2: us (800) 555-7898. Who do we have? Ali.
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  S4: Stephanie. First time caller from Logansport, Indiana. Tell us, what
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  S4: is that act of chivalry? Men should not stop doing.
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  S9: You know, let's just say it. Let's put all the
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  S9: weight on opening doors. But that includes car doors. But
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  S9: also I want to add to that, pulling out the
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  S9: chair for your lady when you take her on a date.
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  S3: Yeah.
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  S2: There's something.
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  S9: Absolutely.
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  S2: Oh, that is great, Stephanie. That is great. Thanks for
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  S2: weighing in from Logansport, Indiana. Way to go. What a
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  S2: cool thing. We're off to a hot start here, Ali.
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  S4: Yeah, we have room for you if you'd like to
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  S4: call in. Ladies, what's one act of chivalry? Men should
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  S4: never stop practicing. 805. Five. 578. 98. (800) 555-7898.
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  S1: Helping you take the next step in your walk with Jesus.
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  S2: God longs for.
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  S3: Us.
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  S2: Today to seek him and ask him to move in
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  S2: ways that we never could.
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  S1: You're listening to Carl and crew.
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  S2: Oh my goodness. Phone lines are jammed. Absolutely jammed. We'll
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  S2: get as many as we can in here. Ali, let's
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  S2: go on this one.
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  S4: Here's the question. What's one act of chivalry, ladies, that
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  S4: you believe men should never stop stopped practicing. 805 557898 Lori.
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  S4: First time caller from Indianapolis, Indiana. Tell tell me, what
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  S4: is it for you that you think men don't stop
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  S4: doing this?
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  S10: So I agree with the other women about holding the door.
• 17:38
  S10: That was my first thought. But my husband, whenever we
• 17:42
  S10: are walking, whether we're walking on a sidewalk or along
• 17:45
  S10: the side of a street, my husband has always positioned
• 17:49
  S10: himself between me and the street. He always puts me
• 17:53
  S10: on the inside and he's always on the outside, and
• 17:56
  S10: I always feel so secure and protected when he does that.
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  S2: What's your husband's name? Lori.
• 18:02
  S10: His name is Shawn, and he is the absolute best
• 18:05
  S10: husband in this world.
• 18:06
  S3: Oh.
• 18:07
  S2: You are awesome. Give him a big old hug from Carl,
• 18:10
  S2: would you? Big old bear hug.
• 18:12
  S10: I will do that.
• 18:12
  S2: All right. Way to go! Way to go, Lori. Good.
• 18:16
  S2: Thank you so much. Lucy from Ellwood City, Pennsylvania. What?
• 18:20
  S2: What do you say, Lucy?
• 18:23
  S11: Um, I would like to see men continue to give
• 18:27
  S11: up their seats for women on public transportation or in
• 18:31
  S11: a waiting room or something. I think it's just so wonderful.
• 18:36
  S11: And so because, like my husband says, that women are
• 18:41
  S11: the weaker vessel, not because they're physically more weaker. It's
• 18:46
  S11: because that just like porcelain, uh, and crockery, you know,
• 18:51
  S11: they are more precious.
• 18:53
  S3: Oh.
• 18:54
  S11: That's what the vessel. And I love that. And because women. Yeah,
• 18:58
  S11: to consider women just more precious. Yeah. Um, because God does. Yep.
• 19:03
  S11: So yeah.
• 19:05
  S2: I love it. I love it, Lucy. That's a great one.
• 19:08
  S2: And I'm a big believer in that. My dad taught
• 19:10
  S2: me early on, if you got a seat and there's
• 19:12
  S2: a woman standing up, you get your booty out of
• 19:15
  S2: that thing.
• 19:15
  S3: That's a big.
• 19:15
  S2: One. You pointer to it. Let's go to dawn in
• 19:19
  S2: New Orleans, Louisiana. What do you say, Don?
• 19:22
  S12: The pause before they get out of the elevator to
• 19:25
  S12: let you go forward. It's just so sweet and simple.
• 19:29
  S2: Yeah, that is dynamite. Don, thank you for calling in.
• 19:32
  S2: We got another one here, Ali.
• 19:34
  S4: Yeah, it looks like a beer. Get first time caller
• 19:36
  S4: from Northbrook, Illinois. I think you're echoing one of our
• 19:39
  S4: earlier calls. What do you say?
• 19:41
  S13: Yes, that's what I was going to say. Walking on
• 19:44
  S13: the street side. Yeah. Walking with a lady.
• 19:48
  S4: That's a big one. And I wasn't even aware of
• 19:50
  S4: that one until my husband's insistent on that one, too.
• 19:53
  S4: And so at first I was like, what? What are
• 19:55
  S4: you doing? Why are you moving me to the inside
• 19:56
  S4: of the sidewalk? It is a sweet, a sweet gesture.
• 20:01
  S4: What do you say? 805, five, five, 78, 98. Ladies,
• 20:05
  S4: what's one act of chivalry? Men should never stop practicing.
• 20:08
  S2: Oh. It's beautiful. Uh, these are just wonderful calls. These
• 20:13
  S2: are just wonderful. Sandra. First time caller. Tampa, Florida. What
• 20:16
  S2: do you say?
• 20:17
  S14: I say thank you. Thank you. With a smile. When
• 20:21
  S14: men smile, it's awesome. And they say thank you. Yes.
• 20:26
  S2: That's beautiful. That's beautiful. Sandra, thank you so much for
• 20:30
  S2: calling in today. Oh boy, did we get some feedback
• 20:35
  S2: on this one, Ali.
• 20:36
  S4: I know it's like they just keep coming. You think?
• 20:39
  S4: I keep hearing ones that I. Oh, yeah. That too.
• 20:42
  S4: Oh yeah that too.
• 20:43
  S2: I love it. Jane you get final word here. First
• 20:46
  S2: time caller. Miami, Florida. What do you say?
• 20:48
  S15: Hi. Um, God bless you all for your wonderful program. And, yes, uh,
• 20:53
  S15: when we're cold, uh, men should offer their jackets and
• 20:59
  S15: to us and and even place them on our shoulders.
• 21:02
  S4: Yeah.
• 21:03
  S15: If allowed. If need be.
• 21:05
  S2: Yeah. Jane! Way to go, sister. Thank you so much
• 21:08
  S2: for calling in. Great ideas here today. And these are powerhouse,
• 21:13
  S2: aren't they, Ali?
• 21:14
  S4: And I hope that you guys listening realize that these
• 21:17
  S4: little acts. And sometimes it just takes a second. How
• 21:20
  S4: long does it really take to open that door?
• 21:22
  S3: It doesn't.
• 21:22
  S4: Or to offer that seat. And it makes such a
• 21:25
  S4: big impact.
• 21:26
  S3: Yeah.
• 21:27
  S2: It's huge. Let's be chivalrous, man.
• 21:30
  S1: Your shot of hope to get you through the day.
• 21:33
  S6: You are so, so loved. God does not want you
• 21:36
  S6: to stay in your past. And I want you to
• 21:38
  S6: know and believe that today.
• 21:40
  S1: You're listening to Carl and crew.
• 21:42
  S2: Well, here we are, smack dab in the middle of chivalry.
• 21:45
  S2: And boy, have we had some discussions this week already.
• 21:48
  S4: I mean, it's been great. Just really looking at what
• 21:51
  S4: does it look like biblically to be the kind of
• 21:54
  S4: man that we need.
• 21:56
  S2: Yeah. So if you listen to the radio at all,
• 21:58
  S2: and I'm not talking our station, I'm talking any radio. Uh,
• 22:02
  S2: you've heard Medi-share and you've heard about Care International and
• 22:06
  S2: who knows what else is going on. He's a great
• 22:08
  S2: spokesperson and his name is Brandt Hanson. Brandt. I want
• 22:12
  S2: to begin with the unseen Character of a man, and
• 22:17
  S2: I know this is near and dear to your heart.
• 22:20
  S2: But at the end of the day, without a healthy
• 22:24
  S2: dose of humility that comes from really understanding the grace
• 22:29
  S2: of God, we're going to go off half cocked every time,
• 22:33
  S2: aren't we, friend?
• 22:34
  S16: Oh, totally. You can get all the right advice or like,
• 22:37
  S16: the right ideas and stuff, but if it doesn't come
• 22:39
  S16: down to faithfulness daily, we're lost. We can go to
• 22:44
  S16: a million conferences. We can know everything doctrinally. We can
• 22:47
  S16: check every box, we can be physically fit, we can blah, blah, blah.
• 22:51
  S16: But God's looking for loyalty from us. So I keep
• 22:54
  S16: showing up. It's what I keep doing every morning. I
• 22:56
  S16: didn't feel like it this morning. I'll be honest with you.
• 22:58
  S16: I was walking the dog and I. For some reason
• 23:00
  S16: I particularly didn't feel like praying. I don't know why,
• 23:03
  S16: but you know what I did? I just started talking
• 23:06
  S16: to God anyway. And I said, I don't know why.
• 23:08
  S16: I don't feel like praying, but thank you. You sustain me.
• 23:10
  S16: Without you, I got nothing, I love it. I need
• 23:12
  S16: your help today. Like this is. God is looking for loyalty.
• 23:15
  S16: I think a lot of guys can get in particular,
• 23:18
  S16: can get discouraged because they think God's looking for emotion,
• 23:21
  S16: because we make spirituality into emotion so often and the
• 23:24
  S16: emotions can come and go, but the believing loyalty to
• 23:27
  S16: just keep showing up. Well, now you're talking. That's what
• 23:30
  S16: he's looking for.
• 23:31
  S4: Brian Hansen is with us this morning. Best selling author,
• 23:34
  S4: syndicated radio host. His book, The Men We Need God's
• 23:38
  S4: Purpose for the manly man, the avid indoors men. Are
• 23:41
  S4: any man willing to show up? Love the title. Let's
• 23:45
  S4: start with the first part. The men we need. There
• 23:49
  S4: is a strong cultural push against any sort of assertion
• 23:54
  S4: that we need men. Yeah. Okay.
• 23:57
  S16: So the.
• 23:57
  S4: Culture. Right, right. I mean, it's like, what do you mean? We,
• 24:01
  S4: I don't need I don't need a man. It's very
• 24:04
  S4: common to hear people say things like that because how
• 24:07
  S4: dare you suggest that we need men for something? Go ahead.
• 24:10
  S4: Speak to that.
• 24:11
  S16: Well, people are irrational and they're also hurting. And, you know,
• 24:15
  S16: they respond from a lot of different things. Sure. But
• 24:17
  S16: my thing is, the struggle I had growing up in
• 24:20
  S16: churches was they would have men's events and stuff to,
• 24:23
  S16: to straighten that out. Right. Like, we don't want to
• 24:25
  S16: go with what the culture says. We're not just going
• 24:27
  S16: to be all about your toxic. We hate masculinity. Like
• 24:29
  S16: all that stuff. But what they would say is we
• 24:31
  S16: need men to be men. We need guys to stand
• 24:35
  S16: up and be men. I'm like, right. What are you
• 24:38
  S16: talking about? You're telling me to be a man, but
• 24:40
  S16: what's the box top picture? Like it's a jigsaw puzzle
• 24:44
  S16: of pieces. What's the box top? So I know how
• 24:46
  S16: to live. So what I tried to do in this
• 24:49
  S16: book is try to tell people like, I think if
• 24:52
  S16: you're going to boil down what real masculinity is, and
• 24:55
  S16: this is something that's accessible by people, whether they're Hunter
• 24:58
  S16: Fisher guys or Navy Seals or artists or IT guys,
• 25:02
  S16: it's all of us. I think it's the job that
• 25:05
  S16: was given to Adam to be a keeper of the garden.
• 25:08
  S16: I think that's it. And that means it's God's garden.
• 25:11
  S16: But we keep it and we protect the vulnerable species
• 25:14
  S16: within it. We want to cultivate and let the people
• 25:17
  S16: around us in our sphere of influence bloom and grow.
• 25:21
  S16: That's what we do, and we're at our best. And
• 25:23
  S16: so when you unpack that, the wild thing is instead
• 25:26
  S16: of just going be a man, like you've got to,
• 25:28
  S16: you got to tell me what that is. And younger people,
• 25:30
  S16: especially people in their 20s and 30s to like, what
• 25:33
  S16: are you talking about? Because there's a lot of tropes
• 25:35
  S16: about masculinity. We need to go, this is actually what
• 25:37
  S16: we're doing. So you use whatever talents, whatever strength, whatever
• 25:41
  S16: God's given you, and you use it to be a
• 25:43
  S16: keeper of your garden, your sphere of influence. The wild
• 25:46
  S16: thing is everybody profits from this. Everybody, the people in
• 25:49
  S16: your neighborhood, the people in your family. Once you understand that,
• 25:53
  S16: everybody wins.
• 25:54
  S4: Brian, I appreciate that you're exploring some of these different
• 25:57
  S4: pictures of what masculinity looks like, because this is my
• 26:01
  S4: opinion here. So I'm going to speak from just what
• 26:04
  S4: I think. I think unintentionally as a church in our
• 26:08
  S4: attempt to kind of push back against the culture's blending
• 26:12
  S4: of genders and acting as if biological sex doesn't matter.
• 26:15
  S4: We know that it does. We have defaulted to unbiblical
• 26:19
  S4: stereotypes that may or may not be true for individuals,
• 26:23
  S4: for instance. Kind of. I used to kind of cringe
• 26:26
  S4: when we would default to every women's event, or every
• 26:29
  S4: event for girls was about pink and princesses, and I
• 26:32
  S4: happened to be raising a girl who loved basketball and
• 26:35
  S4: hated pink. And then for men, they have to love
• 26:38
  S4: bacon and grunt. And so if you're not a guy
• 26:40
  S4: that fits into that box, then you feel like there's
• 26:44
  S4: something less manly about you. So that's a bit of
• 26:46
  S4: a hot button one for me. So speak to that
• 26:48
  S4: a little bit. Getting the clarity around like what it
• 26:51
  S4: is biblically and not just stereotypes.
• 26:54
  S16: Well, that's why I wrote the book. Like I'm a
• 26:56
  S16: musician and I have a neurological condition. Like I can't hunt,
• 26:59
  S16: I can't serve in the military. Does that make me
• 27:01
  S16: less of a man? What if I'm a source of
• 27:03
  S16: security for everybody around me. And my wife acknowledges that
• 27:07
  S16: because of my character. So I'm not I'm not manly
• 27:09
  S16: because I don't hunt. Like that's ridiculous. So you're right.
• 27:12
  S16: There are these tropes and I understand the reaction against
• 27:15
  S16: the larger cultural errors, but I'm saying this because it
• 27:19
  S16: is something that unless guys are told this is what
• 27:22
  S16: masculinity really is, you will make the mistake of thinking, okay,
• 27:25
  S16: I guess it's having awesome cars and being jacked and
• 27:28
  S16: being a UFC fighter. Well, now you're describing Andrew Tate
• 27:32
  S16: or a bunch of people online who are masculinity influencers.
• 27:35
  S16: There's a lot of young guys in Christian schools who
• 27:38
  S16: are buying this garbage.
• 27:39
  S3: Yeah.
• 27:40
  S16: It's like they're anti all that, the cultural stuff. Yeah.
• 27:43
  S16: But I want you to understand what I'm talking to
• 27:44
  S16: younger guys or whoever's reading this book, like understand a
• 27:47
  S16: guy like Andrew Tate, he might have all the outward trappings,
• 27:50
  S16: but he's actually a threat in the garden. He's not
• 27:53
  S16: a keeper of the garden. He's using the vulnerable. He's
• 27:56
  S16: a threat to them. The real masculine person would be
• 27:59
  S16: somebody who steps up and defends women from him. If
• 28:01
  S16: you don't explain that to younger guys, the great news is, guys,
• 28:04
  S16: once you do explain this, it takes about five minutes
• 28:06
  S16: and guys are like, oh, you're right, I can explain
• 28:08
  S16: this to an eight year old boy. And there's something
• 28:10
  S16: so intrinsic in a man's soul. You tell your eight
• 28:14
  S16: year old, hey, you're actually here to protect your little sister.
• 28:16
  S16: You're not supposed to scare her. You protect her like
• 28:19
  S16: he'll understand what you're talking about. Like, this is my
• 28:22
  S16: job as a man. This is something that's so deep
• 28:25
  S16: set in us. And women actually understand that, too. And
• 28:28
  S16: when a man is a source of security, they're usually
• 28:30
  S16: really attractive. Honestly.
• 28:32
  S3: I don't want to.
• 28:33
  S2: Hammer this too much, give him too much airtime. But
• 28:35
  S2: you brought it up and I'm going to go after it.
• 28:37
  S2: Why are the tape brothers popular in many circles, even inside?
• 28:42
  S2: I'm using air quotes. The church. Uh, is it because
• 28:46
  S2: they we've been giving bad information or no information to
• 28:50
  S2: our young men?
• 28:51
  S16: Okay, so it's a reaction against the errors of the
• 28:54
  S16: larger culture, like you talked about, like all masculinity is
• 28:56
  S16: toxic and all this stuff. So people are looking for
• 28:59
  S16: role models. They're looking for an example of masculinity and
• 29:01
  S16: their like, that must be it and go in this direction.
• 29:04
  S16: If you're not told by the church, if you're just
• 29:06
  S16: told to man up, if it's just about bacon and
• 29:09
  S16: grunting at the men's event, that's not an answer. Yeah,
• 29:12
  S16: that's why I'm trying to say you actually need because
• 29:15
  S16: we got these pieces to the puzzle. You actually need
• 29:17
  S16: a box top to look at like what is actually
• 29:20
  S16: deeply masculine. And I'm telling you, I really am convinced
• 29:23
  S16: it's this keeper of the garden thing, Adam's original job.
• 29:27
  S16: The vulnerable around me should feel secure because I'm there.
• 29:31
  S2: Okay, so let's build on that because I couldn't agree
• 29:33
  S2: with you more. But then even with that, you go
• 29:36
  S2: keeper of the garden, you know, you get all gobbledygook.
• 29:39
  S2: All right. What's this look like? Uh, but at the
• 29:42
  S2: end of the day, I'll be honest with you where
• 29:45
  S2: it's at for me, I did not start being the
• 29:49
  S2: kind of husband that my bride deserved or the leader
• 29:53
  S2: that I needed to be before I spent time. And
• 29:57
  S2: I'm going to be real practical. And this is not
• 29:59
  S2: super spiritual. It's just as real as real can be.
• 30:02
  S2: And I started praying David's prayer. Search me, know me,
• 30:05
  S2: try me. See if there'd be any hurtful way in
• 30:07
  S2: me and lead me in the way everlasting. And I've
• 30:09
  S2: cultivated a friendship with Jesus, realizing I don't see myself rightly,
• 30:16
  S2: I don't see myself rightly, and being honest to God
• 30:20
  S2: about that. And then shut my mouth and listening. You
• 30:23
  S2: would be. You wouldn't be. But a lot of people
• 30:26
  S2: would be astonished how I audibly hear God's voice saying,
• 30:30
  S2: change this, change that, soften that. Listen more here. It's
• 30:35
  S2: that practical. I think we got to get it right
• 30:38
  S2: down there, don't we?
• 30:39
  S16: Well, I actually hear his voice telling me what Carl
• 30:42
  S16: needs to change as well.
• 30:43
  S3: See?
• 30:44
  S2: See, so God's.
• 30:45
  S3: Working so powerfully in my life, that branch here and
• 30:48
  S3: what I need to change.
• 30:52
  S16: So you're exactly right. So in the book, the men
• 30:54
  S16: we need, I have six decisions that will help you.
• 30:57
  S16: And one of them really is about owning your spiritual life.
• 31:00
  S16: It's the most important one. It's exactly what you're talking about. See,
• 31:03
  S16: a lot of guys will slink away from God in shame.
• 31:05
  S16: This personal interaction with him, which is what life is for.
• 31:09
  S16: God created us to partner with him in life. I
• 31:12
  S16: don't want to miss that. If you lose that, you've
• 31:14
  S16: lost everything you're not. You've lost the garden at that point,
• 31:17
  S16: like everything is riding on this, but a lot of
• 31:19
  S16: guys will slink away in shame because of their addictions
• 31:21
  S16: or the sins they get caught up in. And I
• 31:23
  S16: keep trying to encourage them. Keep walking with God. Yes,
• 31:27
  S16: talk to him about the stuff you're struggling with. The
• 31:30
  S16: wind for the for the enemy is if you walk
• 31:32
  S16: away in shame, that's the win. So even when I'm
• 31:35
  S16: caught up in things and I know I need to
• 31:37
  S16: grow up, I'm still going to talk to him again.
• 31:39
  S16: It's not about feelings, it's about loyalty. I'm going to
• 31:42
  S16: be loyal to him. And you know what? Over time,
• 31:45
  S16: as you continue to walk with him in spite of
• 31:47
  S16: your stuff, he'll start to change your desires and certain
• 31:50
  S16: things will start to get squeezed out of your life
• 31:53
  S16: and you'll grow up. But you can't cut off that
• 31:55
  S16: daily interaction with him where it's a constant relationship. So
• 31:59
  S16: to your point, I do discuss that in the book. Like,
• 32:02
  S16: here's actually how to do this thing so that you
• 32:04
  S16: become someone who cultivates other people's lives and allows your wife,
• 32:08
  S16: your kids, or people around you to bloom and flourish
• 32:11
  S16: just because you're there. There's also a young men's version,
• 32:13
  S16: the young men we need, and there's discussion questions in
• 32:16
  S16: all the books. So if you want to gather with
• 32:18
  S16: younger guys or other guys and go through it, that's
• 32:20
  S16: been incredibly helpful for a lot of guys.
• 32:23
  S4: Brant Hansen with us. The book is called The Men
• 32:26
  S4: We Need. Want to make sure you know how to
• 32:28
  S4: get it. Just text Brant to (800) 555-7898. Brant BRANT 805 557898.
• 32:39
  S1: Celebrating the Unstoppable gospel.
• 32:42
  S5: It's not that I've got to fill in these check boxes,
• 32:45
  S5: so he's okay with me, but it's that I get
• 32:47
  S5: to stand close to him so that I can experience
• 32:50
  S5: the life that he has for me.
• 32:51
  S1: You're listening to Carl and crew.
• 32:54
  S3: You know.
• 32:54
  S2: Chivalry is an interesting thing. It's kind of an archaic
• 32:58
  S2: word for really a transcendent feature that's found in scripture.
• 33:03
  S2: Not a little glitch, but I mean a feature when
• 33:06
  S2: godly men begin to understand that as they humble themselves
• 33:11
  S2: under God's mighty hand, God can begin to use you
• 33:15
  S2: men in ways that are pretty astonishing. You begin to
• 33:19
  S2: get breakthrough in your prayers when you live with your
• 33:21
  S2: wife in an understanding way. When you're a leading, loving servant, sacrificing,
• 33:27
  S2: laying down your life to love your bride as Christ
• 33:29
  S2: loved the church. It's an amazing thing. But there's another
• 33:33
  S2: little wrinkle here, and it's you dads and chivalrous dads
• 33:37
  S2: or dads that shepherd their daughters hearts in a real
• 33:43
  S2: powerful way. With me right now is Doctor Michelle Watson.
• 33:48
  S2: She loves the Lord and she loves dads who really
• 33:51
  S2: care for their daughters. What gave you this vision, Michelle?
• 33:54
  S2: To really ignite in men a caring heart for their girls.
• 34:00
  S17: You know, so much of it was born out of
• 34:02
  S17: my own story. I'm the oldest of four daughters. I've
• 34:05
  S17: been mentoring and discipling women since I was 19 teenagers.
• 34:09
  S17: And even as I grew up into 20s, then I
• 34:13
  S17: ended up starting a counseling practice born out of my
• 34:16
  S17: own healing journey with Jesus. Long story short, as I
• 34:20
  S17: begin to put together the collective stories I so often
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  S17: hear from women about father wounds or father voids, that
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  S17: was the backdrop for one random day in December of 2009.
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  S17: I'm reading in Luke one, get to verse 17, where
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  S17: God tells Zechariah that his son John, who isn't even
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  S17: born yet, is going to help turn the hearts, not
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  S17: just the heads of fathers, to their children. And Carl,
• 34:44
  S17: I just heard God whisper and say, Michelle, that's what
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  S17: I want you to do. Yeah. So I invited the
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  S17: next month, January of ten, I invited 11 dads whose
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  S17: daughters were my counseling clients at the time. I've been
• 34:56
  S17: 30 years now in private practice and said, dad, how
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  S17: would you like to join me once a month, see
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  S17: if there's a change in you, your daughter, and your relationship? Carl,
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  S17: ten of the men said, we're in. We ended up
• 35:08
  S17: going a year, did that for ten years. Couple books,
• 35:10
  S17: a podcast, the dad whisper out of that. And I
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  S17: have such a passion like you do for seeing the
• 35:15
  S17: hearts of fathers engage with their daughters.
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  S2: Yeah, it is beautiful. Now, you must have had with
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  S2: the dad. Look, there's no dad that is perfect. But
• 35:24
  S2: there's principled living that you've learned. What did your dad
• 35:30
  S2: teach you that you want to pass on to other dads?
• 35:34
  S17: You know, one of the things, like I said, my
• 35:36
  S17: dad had four girls and he grew up on the
• 35:38
  S17: South Side of Chicago, was in gangs from the time
• 35:40
  S17: he was 12. Uh, you know, alcoholic dad. It was
• 35:45
  S17: not much of a template of how to be a dad.
• 35:47
  S17: And so when other dads would come to him and say, here,
• 35:50
  S17: do this, he would go, hey, we're getting up earlier
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  S17: for family devotions. We're getting up 15 minutes early. We're like, okay.
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  S3: He just did.
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  S2: It, didn't he?
• 35:58
  S17: He just did it because someone said, do it this way.
• 36:00
  S17: And so now as I get to come alongside dads
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  S17: who have a willingness to learn and to hear from
• 36:07
  S17: a woman, right? Many of them have said, well, who better,
• 36:10
  S17: you know, you you get what it's like to be
• 36:12
  S17: a daughter. And I'm like, dad, a couple takeaways are
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  S17: drop your anger. That's one of the biggies. You know,
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  S17: not only is that a biblical construct, right? God, God
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  S17: commands that, but you'll do more to crush the heart
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  S17: of your daughter through anger. So you got to make amends.
• 36:26
  S17: That's another thing. Number two, you gotta humble yourself and say,
• 36:29
  S17: tell me how I hurt you when. And I won't
• 36:31
  S17: get angry and I won't get defensive. And the last
• 36:34
  S17: thing I'd say, Carl, just practical action step is dad.
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  S17: Two ears, one mouth. Listen twice as much as you talk.
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  S17: Listen more than lecture.
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  S2: Yeah that's beautiful. Doctor Michelle Watson is my guest right now.
• 36:45
  S2: And we're going to have a link for you here
• 36:46
  S2: in just a moment. You know, I think dads underestimate
• 36:50
  S2: the impact they have on their daughters. They almost think, well,
• 36:54
  S2: you know, if my wife or the woman in her
• 36:56
  S2: life probably has more influence on her boy, nothing could
• 37:00
  S2: be further from the truth, right, Michelle?
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  S17: Yeah, absolutely. Dad, the power that you have to speak
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  S17: life or like Proverbs says, death, right through the power
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  S17: of the tongue into your daughter is more than you
• 37:13
  S17: probably are ever aware of. So, dad, I believe it
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  S17: goes back to the heart of God as a father
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  S17: who put three quarters of a million words into one
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  S17: book called Jesus, the word words matter to God as
• 37:24
  S17: a father. And so dad, just know today from Carl,
• 37:27
  S17: who's a girl, dad, who I respect. I've had him
• 37:29
  S17: on my podcast a couple times where Bible school friends
• 37:32
  S17: from way back, same Bible college we are and we
• 37:35
  S17: both love the word we. I love my husband. I
• 37:38
  S17: only got married for the first time at the age
• 37:40
  S17: of 60, right to actually. Now Michelle Watson Canfield. I've
• 37:44
  S17: added in the Canfield part. Married a guy who wrote
• 37:46
  S17: the foreword to my first book. Right. And founded the
• 37:49
  S17: National Center for fathering. His name is Ken. And so
• 37:52
  S17: together we champion dads to say you matter, regardless of
• 37:56
  S17: the message you may be receiving from culture or even
• 38:00
  S17: perhaps from your own family. We're here to say today
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  S17: you matter, and you build a bridge to God as
• 38:05
  S17: a father, so that when you're not there, your daughter,
• 38:08
  S17: even your son, can know that God is a father,
• 38:11
  S17: is a good father, and he's a present father.
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  S2: I love this. Michelle, give us a story of something
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  S2: that seemed like, oh boy, there's too much pain here
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  S2: to overcome. But you watched a dad engage with his
• 38:24
  S2: daughter in a humble, contrite, non angry way. And it
• 38:28
  S2: changed the trajectory for that girl and that dad.
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  S17: As you asked that question, I literally found myself like
• 38:35
  S17: running scenarios in my mind, like which one to pick? Yeah.
• 38:39
  S17: Because what I watch happen is when a dad comes
• 38:42
  S17: ready to learn, ready to change, ready to grow. There's
• 38:47
  S17: no telling about the change that can happen, the ripple
• 38:50
  S17: effect in his family. Because just like in a company,
• 38:53
  S17: it's top down, right? Organizationally, same in a home, dad,
• 38:56
  S17: the ripple effect from you being grounded. Less anger, more listening.
• 39:01
  S17: Watch what will happen in your family. It's amazing as
• 39:04
  S17: you learn to ask better questions rather than first make
• 39:07
  S17: a comment. But a story that comes to my mind
• 39:10
  S17: is a dad who had an eighth grade daughter, Maddie. And,
• 39:14
  S17: you know, she was, you know, Skip at school. She's
• 39:18
  S17: running away from home. She's not coming home at curfew.
• 39:21
  S17: And this dad is just, you know, at the end
• 39:23
  S17: of his rope, he doesn't know what to do. Right?
• 39:25
  S17: Because everything is bombing. So at the end of each
• 39:29
  S17: ABA project, the group that I lead for dads. But
• 39:32
  S17: he literally Carl said, okay, I'm not really a good talker.
• 39:36
  S17: And I get up at 5 a.m. so I don't
• 39:38
  S17: like staying up late. but he said, I'm going to
• 39:41
  S17: start asking her questions like you just said. He goes,
• 39:44
  S17: I'm going to try one. Like, how was your day?
• 39:47
  S17: Tell me you're high or low. You're buffalo. You know,
• 39:49
  S17: the thing that was unexpected, right? And she started telling
• 39:53
  S17: him more. He goes five minutes turned into ten minutes.
• 39:57
  S17: She turned in her keys, turned in her phone, and
• 39:59
  S17: I learned to ask better questions. And she began to
• 40:03
  S17: open up more because I asked more. Carl, can you
• 40:07
  S17: believe this? They got up a couple times to an hour,
• 40:11
  S17: so he said, okay, kind of threw off my sleep cycle,
• 40:14
  S17: but it was worth it. Yeah. And I watched the
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  S17: turnaround in their relationship. That was nothing short of miraculous.
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  S3: Yeah.
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  S2: This is beautiful. You know, it's interesting. I don't do
• 40:25
  S2: this very often, but I know that we've got a
• 40:27
  S2: guy sitting here glued to this thing because he's a girl. Dad.
• 40:31
  S2: What's this? What's this do? As you're listening to this,
• 40:33
  S2: I can see you listening with your eyes right now,
• 40:35
  S2: young thunder.
• 40:35
  S5: Yeah. It's it's inspiring because I have a two year
• 40:39
  S5: old daughter and a daughter on the way. And so
• 40:42
  S5: I am a girl dad through and through and it
• 40:46
  S5: makes me so excited.
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  S3: It does.
• 40:48
  S2: It does for you, doesn't it?
• 40:49
  S5: Yeah. Because I know that, you know, there are going
• 40:53
  S5: to be challenges and there are going to be things.
• 40:54
  S5: And I really resonate actually, I'll just, you know, be straightforward.
• 40:58
  S5: I really resonate with controlling your anger because I'm someone
• 41:03
  S5: who can get maybe a little stressed or a little
• 41:06
  S5: anxious when things are out of my control. And when
• 41:08
  S5: you have a two year old, just about everything's out
• 41:10
  S5: of your control. And, and so I'm just, I'm really
• 41:16
  S5: resonating with the conversation because, because this is so important
• 41:20
  S5: and I recognize the effect that, that I have on her.
• 41:24
  S5: Even at two years old, I recognize that when I'm
• 41:27
  S5: walking with the Lord and I come home from work,
• 41:30
  S5: at the end of the day, she runs and gives
• 41:32
  S5: me a big old hug. And even at two, I'm
• 41:34
  S5: asking her about her day and how it was. And
• 41:36
  S5: I can see how she responds and the joy she gets.
• 41:38
  S5: So I see it.
• 41:40
  S2: Yeah, he's off to a good start, right, Michelle?
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  S17: Yes, absolutely. Because you are a mirror for your daughter
• 41:46
  S17: to see herself. So when your face lights up, we
• 41:50
  S17: call that joy. And when there's a joy exchange between
• 41:53
  S17: a dad and a daughter, she'll internalize the joy you
• 41:57
  S17: have in seeing her. And that is one of the
• 42:00
  S17: best antidotes, preventative measures for your daughter and your daughters. Plural.
• 42:06
  S17: Jonathan not being drawn later to what I call the
• 42:09
  S17: dudes and the duds because she's getting what she needs
• 42:11
  S17: from dad.
• 42:12
  S3: Yeah.
• 42:13
  S2: The dudes, the.
• 42:13
  S3: Duds.
• 42:14
  S2: But rather dad. What about dads? Because we got a
• 42:17
  S2: lot of dads listening right now that their their daughters
• 42:20
  S2: are long since grown. Or maybe they're just about to
• 42:24
  S2: head out of the home. How do you reclaim time
• 42:28
  S2: that was lost? I know there's a lot of dads
• 42:30
  S2: right now going, I lost it, it's gone. What do
• 42:33
  S2: you say, Michel?
• 42:35
  S17: Well, first of all, that's a lie. Because the father
• 42:38
  S17: of lies, right, is a counterfeit father. He's against fathers,
• 42:42
  S17: and he wants to lie to you because that's what
• 42:44
  S17: he does. He lies. He has a PhD in biology
• 42:46
  S17: to tell you it's too late. There's too much time lost.
• 42:50
  S17: But as I said at the beginning, here is come
• 42:52
  S17: with humility. If if you have a daughter that is
• 42:55
  S17: launching from home or even married, she still needs you. Yes,
• 43:00
  S17: maybe in a different way, of course, in a different
• 43:02
  S17: way than before. But don't believe the lie that you
• 43:05
  S17: are unimportant as she grows up. In fact, in many ways, dad,
• 43:08
  S17: she needs you more. But I can tell you about
• 43:11
  S17: a conversation I had with a 17 year old just
• 43:14
  S17: this week who just graduated from high school, and she said,
• 43:18
  S17: I don't want my dad to know that much about
• 43:20
  S17: me because I'm tired of the lectures. I'm tired of
• 43:23
  S17: him not hearing what I'm going through, but just telling
• 43:26
  S17: me what to do. And I'm saying to her, here's
• 43:29
  S17: the research you need your dad in your life. Let's
• 43:32
  S17: work with communicating to your dad what you need. But dad,
• 43:36
  S17: if you're in that transition season with your daughter, ask her,
• 43:39
  S17: how can I be a better dad to you in
• 43:42
  S17: this next season? I want to grow. When you come
• 43:46
  S17: with that kind of openness and a teachable heart. Again,
• 43:50
  S17: miracles happen, I promise you.
• 43:52
  S3: Yeah.
• 43:53
  S2: This is beautiful. Doctor Michelle Watson Canfield now. And we've
• 43:58
  S2: got a site for you to check out. And this
• 44:02
  S2: is going to be great. Boom. I need you to
• 44:05
  S2: hear me. She's written a couple of dynamite books. One
• 44:08
  S2: is a best seller. Dad, here's what I really need
• 44:10
  S2: from you. A guide for connecting with your daughter's heart.
• 44:14
  S2: She also wrote let's talk conversation starters for dads and daughters.
• 44:18
  S2: But she's also the founder of the ABBA project, and
• 44:21
  S2: it's an educational process group forum for dads of daughters,
• 44:25
  S2: age 13 to 30 guys. So she's going to be
• 44:29
  S2: launching this again in the fall. I want to encourage
• 44:32
  S2: all you men to be bold. Be the initiating men today.
• 44:37
  S2: Text the word daughter and get hooked up with Michelle's ministry. I,
• 44:42
  S2: I know you're going to benefit from this, men. And
• 44:44
  S2: if we could have a spiritual awakening around dads shepherding
• 44:49
  S2: daughters hearts. Look out! Text daughter to 805 557898. One
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  S2: word daughter to 805 557898. This could be one of
• 45:05
  S2: the most transformational interviews you've heard in a long time.
• 45:09
  S2: Men text daughter to 805 5578, 98.
• 45:15
  S1: It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
• 45:19
  S3: Guess what, guys? Bottom of the hour. You know what
• 45:21
  S3: time it is on this Wednesday morning?
• 45:24
  S1: Making herself laugh no matter who joins her. It's time for.
• 45:28
  S1: Ali thinks it's funny.
• 45:31
  S4: Well, since we've been talking chivalry this week, one of our.
• 45:35
  S4: One of our callers mentioned earlier that it's chivalrous for
• 45:40
  S4: a man to allow the woman to exit the elevator first.
• 45:44
  S3: Yeah.
• 45:46
  S4: In Britain, they call it a lift. True. Americans call
• 45:50
  S4: it an elevator.
• 45:51
  S3: Mhm.
• 45:52
  S4: I guess we're just raised differently.
• 46:01
  S3: That's one of the best. Oh, I'm getting a stomachache. Oh.
• 46:05
  S3: That's great. The action is. I gave it.
• 46:08
  S4: My best try.
• 46:09
  S3: It was.
• 46:09
  S4: I know it was bad. It was.
• 46:11
  S3: Bad. It was, um. It was good. So it sounded Australian.
• 46:14
  S4: Jonathan did say at some point in time in recent
• 46:17
  S4: history that the accent ones really. Those really are.
• 46:21
  S3: Just the ones.
• 46:22
  S4: Those are my finest materials, finest work.
• 46:24
  S3: But wait, there's more. There's more. I'm laughing at this.
• 46:30
  S4: This is a bit of an animal joke. Not the farm.
• 46:33
  S4: Not the farm, though, unless there are elephants on the farm, which,
• 46:36
  S4: last I checked, there are not. How do. Why do
• 46:40
  S4: elephants giggle anytime someone plays the piano? Anytime a piano
• 46:44
  S4: starts playing. If there's elephants in the room, they will giggle.
• 46:48
  S5: I didn't know.
• 46:48
  S3: This.
• 46:48
  S4: Without fail.
• 46:50
  S3: I'm not going to guess. I think I got it.
• 46:52
  S4: Because it tickles their ivories.
• 46:54
  S3: Yeah, yeah, I had that.
• 46:58
  S4: Carl's getting better at anticipating the punchline.
• 47:01
  S3: Well, I thought I had one earlier today, but you didn't.
• 47:05
  S3: I didn't.
• 47:06
  S4: Yeah. Text jokes to 805 5578, 98. We'll just leave
• 47:11
  S4: it at that. Text jokes to 805 557898. Grab the
• 47:16
  S4: jokes and share them. Put the music behind. It always,
• 47:20
  S4: always adds to the fun.
• 47:22
  S3: Music behind it.