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Sean O'Connell Show - Full POD 4-21-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 2: coming up here in about twenty minutes. The Mammoth are
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  Speaker 2: on the road again tonight, Game two seven thirty puck
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  Speaker 2: Drop on UTAH sixteen and on ESPN two. Our guy
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  Speaker 2: Roxy Bernstein is on the call for ESPN and Tom
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  Speaker 2: Callahan our Mammoth Inside. One of our Mammoth insiders and
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  Speaker 2: join us now to talk about what we can expect
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  Speaker 2: from this game to matchup. Tom Callahan, welcome back, How
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  Speaker 2: are you, sir?
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  Speaker 4: Hey, great to have, great to be back on. I'm
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  Speaker 4: excited to talk playoff hockey here.
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  Speaker 2: Well, look, I want to get to the Mammoth and
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  Speaker 2: the Knights. But you're you're Buffalo born and raised, as
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  Speaker 2: indicated in your Twitter bio and your Sabers finally back
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  Speaker 2: in the win column in the playoffs after a long.
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  Speaker 4: Time, the Buffalo Sabers. The whole city's going nuts. I'm
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  Speaker 4: really excited for my friends, everybody back home. It just wow.
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  Speaker 4: It's crazy to think it's been fifteen years since they've
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  Speaker 4: won a playoff game, and you know, the city is
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  Speaker 4: just erupting and excited about it. And of course, you know,
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  Speaker 4: part of it is everybody expected it to be the
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  Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills that was gonna, you know, really be the
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  Speaker 4: torch bearer for trying to win this city a championship.
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  Speaker 4: But right now, the momentum is behind Buffalo and it's
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  Speaker 4: it's great. You know, it's really fun to see for
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  Speaker 4: Buffalo getting back in for the first time in a
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  Speaker 4: long time. The city's fired up and it's kind of
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  Speaker 4: in a way very similar to Utah with the city
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  Speaker 4: getting fired up to support this team for the first time,
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  Speaker 4: getting into the postseason, and you know what, it's there's
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  Speaker 4: nothing to energize the fan base like a playoff run.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we're hoping that this could be a deep playoff
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  Speaker 2: run for the Utah Land. First two periods they looked awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Period three, things kind of went off the rails a
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  Speaker 2: little bit. Tell me how it happened from your perspective, Well.
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  Speaker 4: I think what you saw was a Vegas team that
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  Speaker 4: has a lot more been there, done that now that
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  Speaker 4: Utah doesn't have experience, and that's why they went out
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  Speaker 4: and got you know, guys who of those Stanley Cup
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  Speaker 4: rings like your stand Lunds and your Schmidt's and even
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  Speaker 4: b Tech Banacheck won last year with the Panthers. That
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  Speaker 4: experience matters, you know, Serga, Jeb, they've been there. But
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  Speaker 4: what we saw from Vegas, I thought, and yes, there
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  Speaker 4: is a legitimate John Tortorella coaching bump for this Vegas team.
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  Speaker 4: It's a new voice in their room. They're energized, they're excited.
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  Speaker 4: They played great to end the regular season, but they
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  Speaker 4: were just a little bit harder to play against. They
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  Speaker 4: turned it up that extra notch, especially in the third period.
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  Speaker 4: Vegas did not panic. The game was played mostly five
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  Speaker 4: on five, which I actually felt favorite Utah. They really
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  Speaker 4: did a nice job staying discipline, staying out of the box.
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  Speaker 4: But Vegas was a little more physical, a little heavier
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  Speaker 4: on the puck, which I think is really important in
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  Speaker 4: the playoffs, and the mammoth just you know, kind of
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to use the word defensive shell, but
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  Speaker 4: that's kind of what it resembled. They started not taking
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  Speaker 4: the plate to Vegas. Vegas started taking the plate to them,
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  Speaker 4: and to me, once you do that, you're just giving
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  Speaker 4: the momentum to the other team. So that's a lesson
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  Speaker 4: for these guys to learn that, you know, hey, this
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  Speaker 4: sure sixty minutes is what it's going to take, maybe more,
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  Speaker 4: and to say, you know what, we've seen this team
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  Speaker 4: below leads in the regular season all year long. Hopefully
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  Speaker 4: they've been learning from those two. But the playoffs is
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  Speaker 4: a completely different animal and there's zero quit in any
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  Speaker 4: opponent and they have to finish it off with all
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  Speaker 4: sixty minutes, and they just didn't.
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  Speaker 3: Quite do it.
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  Speaker 2: That physicality, obviously, was a major topic of conversation during
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  Speaker 2: the game. After the game, you know, I imagine in
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  Speaker 2: the dressing room it was a topic of conversation. And
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  Speaker 2: Vegas has a little bit more size. Are there ways
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  Speaker 2: that you can manipulate the game so that that size
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  Speaker 2: does not, I guess represent itself so significantly, especially on
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  Speaker 2: in front of the crease, especially when you're trying to
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  Speaker 2: get bodies down there to confuse heart's vision and things
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  Speaker 2: like that.
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  Speaker 4: You know, that is really the key question. If you're
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  Speaker 4: going to play perimeter against Vegas, you're not going to
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  Speaker 4: score a ton of goals. And yes, your Gunther's and
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  Speaker 4: Coolies of the world, those guys can score from those
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  Speaker 4: those shooting angles. They do, and they're some of the
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  Speaker 4: most talented hockey players in the world. But it's not
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  Speaker 4: going to be the way you're going to make that
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  Speaker 4: happen every single time. And so really the two things
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  Speaker 4: that I think to counteract that you have to do
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  Speaker 4: is you really do have to use your speed to
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  Speaker 4: get the pucks ahead of the other team turn their
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  Speaker 4: defense around. It's the way you chip and chase. It's
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  Speaker 4: the way you get those defensemen to pivot. Because if
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  Speaker 4: Vegas defensemen keep a good gap, meaning how close they
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  Speaker 4: are to the forwards. While they're backing into the defensive zone,
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  Speaker 4: it's much harder to get around them. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: Vegas is smart enough that their d will do either
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  Speaker 4: a hit and pin on the wall and then release
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  Speaker 4: a guy because they get that little two count before
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  Speaker 4: it turns into interference, or they'll get a piece of
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  Speaker 4: a guy going wide. Vegas has to use speed coming
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  Speaker 4: from other angles, so maybe the guy who chips it
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  Speaker 4: in isn't the player going to get the puck.
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  Speaker 5: You need a.
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  Speaker 4: Secondary four checker in there. That's really how you're going
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  Speaker 4: to counteract that physical play. But then once you're in
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  Speaker 4: a battle on the wall, you just have to win
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  Speaker 4: with energy and enthusiasm and strength and being smarter by
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  Speaker 4: supporting the puck up high as opposed to cheating the
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  Speaker 4: game as they say, and trying to be down lower
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  Speaker 4: like oh I'd be in a better scoring situation. Well,
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  Speaker 4: you need to be on the defensive side of the
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  Speaker 4: puck so that if it does come out that way,
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  Speaker 4: and supporting that puck battle then you're still going to
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  Speaker 4: end up a possession and you can keep it in
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  Speaker 4: the zone. So there's a lot of those little things
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  Speaker 4: they can do and they really do need to do
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  Speaker 4: with regularity. I said it on the podcast and I'll
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  Speaker 4: sit again here at Playoff Hockey details. It is doing
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  Speaker 4: all of those things we just talk talk about, and
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  Speaker 4: more right, as often as you can, every single time,
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  Speaker 4: as impossible, but as often as you can to continue
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  Speaker 4: to make sure that you are the team that has
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  Speaker 4: the puck more than the other team and generates the
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  Speaker 4: scoring chances.
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  Speaker 2: You and I have talked all season long, and several
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  Speaker 2: times we've discussed special teams, and right now it feels
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  Speaker 2: like the penalty kill is in a bit of an awkward,
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  Speaker 2: maybe problematic spot.
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  Speaker 3: What can they do?
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  Speaker 4: Killing penalties is all effort. It is one hundred percent effort,
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  Speaker 4: and it stops, it starts. It's the most physically taxing
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  Speaker 4: thing you can do in a hockey game. You are
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  Speaker 4: constantly going back and forth your InMotion, and the discipline
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  Speaker 4: of the penalty kill is what they really need to
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  Speaker 4: focus on. It is maintaining, you know, the box.
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  Speaker 3: It is making.
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  Speaker 4: Sure that you're not getting caught chasing a guy, and
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  Speaker 4: they've been guilty of that different occasions this year, especially
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  Speaker 4: skilled players. Sometimes you'll see them almost like you know,
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  Speaker 4: they become entranced by watching whoever it is, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the iicle, the marner, whoever up and down the wall
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  Speaker 4: or carrying across, and then all of a sudden, the
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  Speaker 4: minute they cross over with someone else and they carry
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  Speaker 4: the pug deep. If you don't have the communication to
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  Speaker 4: know who's doing what, that's when the box breaks down.
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  Speaker 4: It causes an nod maned situation where there's a guy
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  Speaker 4: free somewhere. And that's that's really it. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 4: it's going to be the discipline and the hard work
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  Speaker 4: to keep your formation, to not chase and to not.
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  Speaker 3: Get caught watching.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's it's also that you know, mental acuity
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  Speaker 4: to stay sharp at that point of the game. It
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  Speaker 4: really is more than anything else. That's why you don't
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  Speaker 4: always see superstars out there killing penalties. Some do, but
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  Speaker 4: not all of them do, because they don't have the
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  Speaker 4: discipline and the focus to be able to execute that
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  Speaker 4: game plan all the time. And that's really what it is.
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  Speaker 4: It's executing the game plan. And quite frankly, look, sometimes
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  Speaker 4: on a penalty kill, you just beat some team makes
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  Speaker 4: an awesome play, there is one more guy on the
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  Speaker 4: other team. I mean that happens sometimes.
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  Speaker 2: Tom Callahan, our guest, talking Utah Mammoth as we get
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  Speaker 2: ready for Game two tonight in Vegas. Right now, Utah,
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  Speaker 2: of course trails. The Golden Knights won zero after the
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  Speaker 2: comeback victory for Vegas in Game one. All right, So
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  Speaker 2: if you're looking for a tone setter, if you're looking
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  Speaker 2: for somebody that can early in this game and consistently
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  Speaker 2: all the way through, I suppose let Vegas know that
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  Speaker 2: what happened in that third period, the bully ball that
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  Speaker 2: they were able to play, is not going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: Is there one person on this Mammoth roster who can
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  Speaker 2: do it? Is it going to have to be a
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  Speaker 2: concerted team effort. Do you have to fight to send
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  Speaker 2: that message? How do you get that done?
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  Speaker 5: All the above?
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  Speaker 4: All the above? Yes, you can fight to send that
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  Speaker 4: message some teams. Do you know? It's easy for me
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  Speaker 4: to go ahead and say, Brandon tan if you need
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  Speaker 4: to be that guy. And we've talked before about how
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  Speaker 4: you know he's really at the disappointing season and I
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  Speaker 4: wish he would be that guy, but I'm convinced at
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  Speaker 4: this point he's not. So I'm not looking for him
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  Speaker 4: to be the solution. I don't know if they're you know,
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  Speaker 4: toying with the idea of putting Tune in the lineup.
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  Speaker 4: I'd love to see Liam O'Brien out there, but the
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  Speaker 4: guys who I know are going to be out there. McBain,
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  Speaker 4: even though I know he's probably a little banged up,
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  Speaker 4: He's a guy who can be one of those players.
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  Speaker 4: But really the guy in the line that needs to
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  Speaker 4: do this is Lost and Kraus and his line with
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  Speaker 4: Schmaltz and Keller. They were minus eight in game one.
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  Speaker 4: They cannot be minus eate in game two. And Kraus
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  Speaker 4: is a big guy. He's a physical guy. He can
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  Speaker 4: create space on the ice. He absolutely he's got a
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  Speaker 4: letter on a sweater for a reason. He absolutely needs
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  Speaker 4: to be that lead by example, get in their face guy.
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  Speaker 4: He used to have the nickname the Sheriff. He used
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  Speaker 4: to call it Lost and Krause the Sheriff. I would
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  Speaker 4: love to see the Sheriff's saddle up and ride again.
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  Speaker 2: If we're grading Veggie from that first playoff appearance we've
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  Speaker 2: seen with him in a mammoth uniform, how.
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  Speaker 5: Do you do.
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  Speaker 4: He was fine. I didn't have a problem with this game,
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  Speaker 4: and I know I've been maybe one of his harsher
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  Speaker 4: critics this year. I really didn't have a problem with
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  Speaker 4: the game. I didn't think either goaltender was over the top,
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  Speaker 4: spectacular or really bad.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 4: I think he did enough that they could have won
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  Speaker 4: that game. Yeah, I think he was fine. I think
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  Speaker 4: he appeared to handle the nerves fine. For me, it
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  Speaker 4: is more in the playoffs about team defensing goaltending being
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  Speaker 4: hand in hand with one another, and so the more
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  Speaker 4: Utah does take care of their own under the front
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  Speaker 4: of their own net, veg is going to give him
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  Speaker 4: more often than not. He's going to give him the
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  Speaker 4: first save, but they have to take care of it
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  Speaker 4: from there because sometimes there are rebounds, sometimes there are leakers.
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  Speaker 4: They just have to really be aware in those situations.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't think he had a bad game.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 4: Could he have given them one more saved and maybe
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  Speaker 4: steal it now, Yeah, sure, But I wasn't I wasn't
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  Speaker 4: unhappy with the way he played.
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  Speaker 2: Logan Cooley scored the Mammoth first playoff goal. Maybe more interesting,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's more important for me, was
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  Speaker 2: the way that he was just getting under the skin
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  Speaker 2: of the Knights. I mean, even guys who are much
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  Speaker 2: older than him, veteran players that have seen playoff hockey.
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  Speaker 2: It seemed like there was a certain amount of focus
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  Speaker 2: on Cooley. And you know, we saw the face washing
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  Speaker 2: and things like that from him and from everybody really
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  Speaker 2: in this game. But how do we make sure that
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  Speaker 2: he continues to have a big impact in this series.
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  Speaker 4: Let me take Jazz fans into the way back machine
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  Speaker 4: and talk about Stockton and Malone. When those guys took
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  Speaker 4: the court in the postseason, it was different and they
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  Speaker 4: knew it. You knew it. Everyone one knew it. There
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  Speaker 4: was another level. And I think when you look at
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  Speaker 4: Logan Cooley what he showed us that even though it
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  Speaker 4: was his first playoff game, he is going to be
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  Speaker 4: one of those players. It is different and his game
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  Speaker 4: is elevated. It brings new elements. I don't think he
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  Speaker 4: could play like that for an eighty two game schedule
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  Speaker 4: and really survive to have a long and fruitful career,
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  Speaker 4: because that kind of pace burns you out. But in
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  Speaker 4: the playoffs, I think if you can maintain it for
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  Speaker 4: two months, you can win a Stanley Cup. And I
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  Speaker 4: think he's one of those guys that is going to be.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to look back when he's done and say
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  Speaker 4: that was one of the best playoff performers ever to
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  Speaker 4: wear a Utah Mammoth uniform throughout the course of his career.
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  Speaker 4: I love what we saw from Logan Cooley and I
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  Speaker 4: am excited by it, and I hope that everybody else
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  Speaker 4: on the bench is watching because that was phenomenal and
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  Speaker 4: I want to see more out of it, more out
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  Speaker 4: of him, more out of the guys on his line,
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  Speaker 4: more out of the guys on the Benchit next to
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  Speaker 4: him going wow, look at this kid. He is out
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  Speaker 4: there and giving it his all, and he has that
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  Speaker 4: extra level to keep him going, to wind him up
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  Speaker 4: and let him go. He's young, he's got energy. I
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  Speaker 4: used to know what that was like, but I don't anymore.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he can do it, and he will do
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  Speaker 4: it because he wants to. He relishes that role, and
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  Speaker 4: he's fired up to be in the postseason. I don't
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  Speaker 4: think you need to do anything except let him, let
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  Speaker 4: him keep running at it and have some fun playing,
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  Speaker 4: and I think they'll they'll have success with him in
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  Speaker 4: the series.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: I never like to overreact to any singular game, but
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  Speaker 2: obviously We're in the playoffs now, so each game becomes
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  Speaker 2: much more important. And you already addressed the fact that
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  Speaker 2: the Krouse killer Schmaltz line didn't have the night that
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  Speaker 2: they needed to. And Clayton Keller is a captain on
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  Speaker 2: this team, and he's had an up and down year.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like the tail end of the regular season
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  Speaker 2: he was really kind of rounding into a form that
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  Speaker 2: I thought would translate well to playoff hockey. Are we
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  Speaker 2: see Did we see that from him individually in Game one?
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  Speaker 2: And I don't think we did? So what does he
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  Speaker 2: need to do to step up to justify, you know,
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  Speaker 2: our expectations of him?
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  Speaker 3: Well?
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  Speaker 4: As I mentioned a moment ago to see you know,
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  Speaker 4: loss and Crows get out and helped him create room
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  Speaker 4: with help because I and the guy actually I picked
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  Speaker 4: who the series would swing on as Nick s Maltz
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  Speaker 4: out of everybody on the team, I think Nick s
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  Speaker 4: Maltz can swing the series. But Keller, obviously, being the
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  Speaker 4: third man in this unit, needs to be a captain
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  Speaker 4: and with his leadership values here and just really kind
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  Speaker 4: of make sure that he's on top of the other
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  Speaker 4: guys and saying, look, this is how we need to play.
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  Speaker 4: Our line needs to instigate this. We need to be
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  Speaker 4: the leaders out there.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 4: It shouldn't be Logan Coolly, It should be Dylan Gunther,
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  Speaker 4: who during the regular season I thought was the scrappiest
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  Speaker 4: player at times that Utah had, which is a crazy
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  Speaker 4: thought because he's your leading goal scorer. Keller has always
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  Speaker 4: been a little bit more of a quieter guy. I
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  Speaker 4: would like to see his leadership style blossom into something
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  Speaker 4: that's a little more out loud. Here in game number two,
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  Speaker 4: and to your point of you don't want to swing
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  Speaker 4: a series on a game. I look at Dallas. I
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  Speaker 4: mean look at Dallas Minnesota. Minnesota pounded them six to
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  Speaker 4: one in Game one. The starts didn't even show up.
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  Speaker 4: That was a horrible showing. Dallas went back out there
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  Speaker 4: in one Game two, so things changed night tonight. Seven
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  Speaker 4: games is an awful lot of hockey, especially against the
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  Speaker 4: same team night in night out. And look, these guys
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  Speaker 4: that we're talking about, all three of them are veterans.
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  Speaker 4: They know what happened, they understand that they did not
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  Speaker 4: play well, and there's a lot of professional pride involved here.
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  Speaker 4: They will come back with a bounce back effort. I
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  Speaker 4: can pretty much guarantee that now are they going to
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  Speaker 4: be on this course? I don't one hundred percent no,
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  Speaker 4: because they're drawing those top line defensive assignments. But I
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  Speaker 4: do think they're going to be much better in Game
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: two in Vegas. So you know what, Clayton Keller, Yeah,
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: the spotlight on them, absolutely it is. But I just
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: me personally, the only thing I would like to see
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: is probably a little more emotion and a little more
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: demonstration on the ice. I want to see him being
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: that guy as well.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Tom Callahan for another minute or two here on the
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Sean O'Connell show talking Playoff Hockey, and I want to
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: expand our viewpoint here to the rest of the Western
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Conference and even in the East. You already alluded to
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Stars Wild. That series is now tied at one apiece. Tonight,
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: you've got Colorado La Colorado leads the series one zero.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: What do you expect to happen tonight and in the
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: rest of that series?
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: You know, oc out of all the series, this is interesting.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: I forget where it was. It might have been NHL
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: Network or one of those, or maybe it was the
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: satellite version, but that is the only series where not
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: a single host picked the Kings. Every other series there
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: was at least one, if not more votes for a
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: split amongst who they thought would win. Nobody's picking the Kings.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: And it's not that LA is a bad team. I
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: think they can hang out Colorado. I just don't think
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: they can win a seven gamer against them. So I
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: think Colorado is going to get past LA probably in
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: four or five. You know, maybe LA can can get
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: a couple out of them and extend that one. Dallas
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: and Minnesota, I from the beginning I thought was going
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: the distance because these two teams are really really well matched.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: And then you know Edmonton and Anaheim looking at the
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: West there, I'd love to see the Ducks, you know,
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: kind of show up a little bit more. But kingrats
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: by the way to Connor Ingram his first playoff win
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: former Mammoth, and that for Edmonton, I just think Anaheim
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: has the weapons. I just worry that there are a
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: little out of gas and maybe the Oilers. Are you
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: going to get through that one a little bit easier
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: than we all hope?
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: The Penguins Flyers the All Pennsylvania series, you got Philadelphia
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: on top to nothing and the Penguins fans were booing
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: their own team off the ice before this thing was
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: even over last night. I mean, I know, East Coast
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Hockey and Pittsburgh Hockey's built different in their expectations are
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: different than a lot of us out here. Was just,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: you know, happy to be at the party right now.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: But man, harsh, harsh reality for a team with a
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: lot of aging stars.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: Well, that's exactly it. Penguins fans know this is probably
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: the last kick of the camp and the number one
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: they don't want to lose because they don't want that
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: for Sidney Crosby or Mulkan or any of those guys.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: But they sure don't want to lose to Philly, you know.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: And that's that desperation is born as much of the
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: fact that this is the Flyers that are up to
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: zero in the series as anything else, which I mean,
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: you know what, Philly's playing pretty good right now. They
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: played well going into the playoffs. Pittsburgh quite frankly shocked everybody.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: I keep thinking Pittsburgh's window closed four years ago, but
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: yet here they are second in the division. So the
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: Penguins aren't out of this series, but they better wake
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: up in a hurry because going on the road to
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Philly Game three. There's not a whole lot of must
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: wins here, but Game three for Pittsburgh is a must win.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: We've got a couple more days before Delta Center hosts
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: the very first playoff hockey game, NHL playoff hockey game
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: in our state's history.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: What's that going to be like?
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: In nuts, It's going to be crazy. It's going to
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: be so much fun. It's the energy is incredible, and
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: you know, it was funny. I was reading the anecdote
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: somebody was referencing online about you know, that's the only
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: building where Phil Jackson ever needed earplugs. You know, I
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: thought to myself, Man, that just that multiplied by the
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: enthusiasm and the energy behind hockey, and just like what
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: modern fandom has become in sports, I think that it's
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: going to be exciting. The energy is going to be amazing.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: It will be a party like atmosphere. I think everybody
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: is pretty darn happy to be in the postseason. Eventually,
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: believe me, we're all going to get to a point
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: where you want to win every single time out in
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: every single playoff series, and anything less than a couple
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: won't be good enough. But this year is something special
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: because it is the first time and it is against
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: the team that's easy to hate in Vegas, and I
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: think it's just going to be probably the best party
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: that Downtown is seen in an awful long time. And
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: it's going to be so loud in that building. It's
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: already loud in the regular season. Bring your earplugs. It's
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: going to be crazy.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: I don't like to be the sports media guy who
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: tries to force anything, to force feed rivalries or things
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: like that, but it feels like Utah and Vegas, there's
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: a lot of natural ingredients for an authentic rivalry to
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: develop between these two teams, and playoff hockey can accelerate
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: that significantly. Is this you see the makings of something here?
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely I do. When I was with Nashville, when
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: I was doing play by play with them, mostly we
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: came into a series against the Anhim Ducks. Neither team
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: cared about the other team before that series, and then
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: in that six game playoff series, which Nashville won, an
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: instant rivalry was born. And for the next like five
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: or six seasons pretty much until Corey Perry left the Ducks,
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: Nashville and Anaheim was one of the biggest burning rivalries
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: in the NHL, and that it just it was born
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: out of the playoffs. And I do see that with
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: Vegas because, as I say, Vegas is an easy team
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: to make your Darth Vader or you know, with insert
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: villain here, because of the way they run things. They
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: very much and they're cool with it. They're cool with
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: being the evil end party. They're cool with being the
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: team you love to hate. So that I think, unto
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: itself already walking into what people are going to be predisposed.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Utah fans are going to be, oh, we don't like
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: these guys. But now on the ice, it's going to
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: get even better. It's going to get even more obnoxious,
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: and there's a lot of things you can glom onto.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: Plus the geography is there. They are a new franchise,
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: We are a new franchise. Like there's a lot of things.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: There's going to be a lot of comparisons between the two.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: So I really believe that there is all the makings
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: of a Vegas rivalry.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Last thing before I let you go in.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: It has nothing to do with the Mammoth or the
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: playoffs or anything else, but there's a really interesting article
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: in the Athletic about how the Seattle hockey experiment is
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: not going well right now and some of the factors
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: that might be contributing to that. Attendance is good, but
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: the results on ice are just not there. Is it
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: going to take an ownership change you think to jumpstart
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: the kracking?
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: Oh no, I don't think it will take an ownership change.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: It definitely will take a hockey ops direction change. I
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: remember back when they were setting that team up that
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: they went a completely different direction than anyone expected in
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: building that team because everybody was thinking the way the
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: expansion draft set up for Seattle dated after the same
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: success as Vegas and building their team, Yet the way
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: they built that team was much more plugger grinder traditional,
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: We're going to lose sixty games while we figured out
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: expansion team. And I was kind of shocked by that
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: they did not go after some really big, notable names who,
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: by the way, including Serge Bobrovski, was out there. They
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: could have plucked him as one of their expansion goaltenders.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: There were a lot of moves they did not make
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: at that time that left a lot of us scratching
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: our head. And then they brought in Dave Hackstall as
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: a head coach, the first head coach, and he had
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: never had a ton of success. It was weird how
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: they almost talked themselves into being an expansion team in
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: an old school kind of we're going to be bad
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: for a while away, whereas Vegas did not do that.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: So they've been set up since before they took the
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: ice as a team that I felt was behind the
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: eight ball. They haven't drafted well. They certainly haven't scouted well.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: They've spent money in weird places. They threw a ton
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: of money at Philip Grubauer. There's just a lot of
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: signings that didn't go well. That's a front office thing.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: It's got nothing to do with ownership. They just really
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: need a different hockey culture in that building if they're
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: going to get it going.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Tom can't tell you how much I appreciate your time
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: again and look forward to hopefully seeing you on Friday.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: Oh see, I look forward to it, and I cannot
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: wait to see what Delta Center is going to be like.
• 25:44
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• 25:56
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• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Peace Out.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Let's get old latest on the Utah Jazz with former
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Jazz assistant coach Gordy Chiasa. He's forgotten more about the
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: NBA than any of us will ever know.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Let's not get crazy, Come for the hoops talk and
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: stay for his list of the day. My list today,
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: here's o.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: C with Basketball Soab on Gordy Chiesa on the Sean
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: O'Connell show.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Always great to check in with our NBA guru, mister
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Gordchisa joins us now on the phones, Gordia, how are you, sir?
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: Oh see, I'm doing well, thank you.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: NBA playoffs underway. We'll get to that here in just
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: a second. But the good news yesterday in Salt Lake
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: City was that the Utah Jazz win the coin flip
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: and there's no mathematical possibility for them to lose that
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: first round pick. Uh the it was not likely anyway,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: but they beat the Sacramento Kings via coin flip and
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: now they will they will pick no lower than eighth
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: in this upcoming draft. How much concern was there still
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: in the building that you know, you could possibly get
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: as unlucky as you would have to be in order
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: to lose it.
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: It's concerning, absolutely was, and thank god, a lot of
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: regards so far helped the Jets because last year didn't
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: work out that way. So the Jets are guaranteed to
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: pick no no higher than ever eight. So which but
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: just say the lottery regards are good too, just that
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: there's no as far as the team's jumping in as
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: far as the head of the Jazz. So jezs probably
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: going to pick number four, so they're staring right at
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: either they're staring right at Caleb Wilson, the running four
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: men from North Carolina. So the way the draft should read,
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: Sean probably number one, ag Deban said from BYU Darren
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: Peterson from Kansas, Cam Boos from Duke and for Caleb
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: Wilson from North Carolina, and five, six, seven, and eight
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: in any order to debate, this could be Darius Acuff
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: from the Arkansas point guard who's very talented, Michael Brown
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: of a combo Gardon yersee Louisville, Keaton Waggler, a shooting
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: guard from Illinois, and Kingston Fleming, a point guard from Houston.
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: Those are probably the eight that are going to be there.
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: So that Jaz's going to take probably one of those
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: eight guys, which is good.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Let's say they land somewhere between four and eight. Is
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: it best player available? Are they drafting positionally knowing that
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: they've got their core mostly sorted out?
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: Best player available? But again it's going to be Caleb
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: Wilson or Cam Boozer, and that would sound blasphemy. Just
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: kid Taylor Wilson get hurt. He's like, there's running jumping
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: jack forward that's got unbelievable talent and he runs the
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: court and he's all is a winning game. And so
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: he broke his wrists Carolina back in early February, so
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: it's almost like out of sight, out of mind, and
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: so and Cam Boose. We know about Boozer that he's
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: a tremendous all around player. He knows how to play.
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: So after the first flour then it's based on again,
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: these guys are all point guards or combination guards, so
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: it's going to be based on who's on your roster already,
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: generally speaking, Sean. After the first ten, then you take
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: the best player available, I mean other three the position wise,
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: but one through ten it would be just based on talent.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: All right, let's get to these NBA playoffs here. Any
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: any big surprises for you so far. We've had some
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: lopsided victories, We've had some hard fought close games. We've
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: had a couple of upsets already, although no series is over,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: just individual game upsets. Has there been a big surprise
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: for you so far in these playoffs?
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the magic. The magic. We're out for the count
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: the whole season. They got healthy and they got more focus,
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: and they took it right to the first place. Detroit
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: Pistons took it right at him. And so the eight
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: seed the Land of Magic, he outplayed out for really
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: out physical the Detroit Pistons, and I will see if
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: the Pistons can respond to that. And that that was
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: a surprising and a good way. And also I'm surprised
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: in a way where the Nikobocker's lost last night at
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: home to the Hawks, of how they allowed TJ McCollum,
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: who's really a good player, but had they had no
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: answers to him as far as guarding them. And Nicks
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: only scored fifteen points in the fourth quarter last night
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: at home, and that's really disturbing you if you're a
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: nick A fan.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: As long as we're talking Eastern Conference playoffs, the Cleveland
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Cavaliers are up two to zero on the Raptors right now,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: and Donovan Mitchell, the former jazz Man, is playing well.
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: Yes, yes, he's playing tremendous again. Donald Mitchell's out of sight,
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: out of mind, But do you remember how well he
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: played here in s Lake City in the playoffs. He's
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: having this year to quickly thirty one points per game
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: in the first two games, five rebounds, four point five
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: assists and shooting fifty five eighth through the field and
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: forty seven to one from threes eight for seventeen. But
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: here's the point about Donovan Mitchell's really brilliant Sean. He's
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: six all time in the NBA playoff history for most
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: points average per game he's averaging for nine years, he's
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: played in sixty five playoff games. He's averaging twenty eight
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: point four points per game, which is amazing. The only
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: guys better than him in playoff basketball averaging points per
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: game are number five Jerry West, number four, Kevin Durant,
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: number three, Alan Iverson number two look at dantuge and
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: number one player in averaging points per game is Michael
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: Jordan at thirty three point four. That's how good Donvin
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: Mitchell is in a playoff game where he can manufacture
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: points and he's a good playmaker, and he's fearless in
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: the game, and that's really impressive what he's doing with
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: the Caps right now.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Speaking of former Jazz men who have played well in
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: these playoffs, Rudy Gobert put his defensive prowess on display
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: once again, this time in an important matchup. He shut
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: down Joker in the fourth quarter and allowed allowed his
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: team to kind of push through because of it. And
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: you know, you hear the headlines about all I felt disrespected.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: I wasn't a finalist for Defensive Player of the Year,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: and I know we love the soaprop opera involved in that.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: But more interestingly is the fact that you can there's
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: a handful of guys if that in the NBA that
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: can cause that level of problem for Nicole Jokic and
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert is obviously one.
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: Of them very much and showing what he did during
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: that game, because in the fourth quarter, if you're a
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: Nuggets fan, Jamal Murray, who's a tremendous scorer, Nikolai Jokic
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: shot two for twelve in the fourth quarter and they
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: lost that lead, and that was a devastating for your
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: if you're a Nuggets h fan. Now for the t Wolves,
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: it was a great comeback for them. As far as
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: the rally, Rudy Gobert, what he did against Jokic, they
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: kept on single coverage and we called numbers on numbers,
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: chest on chests, Yoki hit the visual. He always seemed
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: like back and down on that slow crew he called
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: crab dribble to make plays. And what Rudy did was
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: he stayed he he stayed up and stayed down where
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: he was. He was on the ground, and he used
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: his chest to leverage and yolk had a hard time
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: getting around him. And when Yokic, we know, its spectacular
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: creating these off balanced shots, Rudy was a second jumper
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: and he challenged him and so he was able to him.
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: Playing yolkicche one on one, he was he cut down
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: Yogice's scoring, but also those rocket passes to his teammates
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: for open threes, and that was a big factor of
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: them rallying the te Wolves and Anthony Edwards and that game.
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: Also after that, he refused to lose and he kept
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: on driving a ball to the basket in a downhill
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: and the Nuggets had no answers to him. And also
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: Julius Randall, it should be a great series one to one,
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: two really excellent teams, also showing they don't like each other,
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: you know what I mean, which is always fun to
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: have the Tea Wolves and the Nuggets don't like each other.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, the adage in combat sports. Gordian's styles
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: make fights, and when you have the bodies that can
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: negate something that's massively important for Denver, it creates a
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: wholly different matchup. Is this Minnesota team almost specifically built
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: to take out a team like Denver because nobody else
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: can shut down the Joker? But Minnesota kind of can
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: as we saw, Yes.
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: That's exactly right. Yeah, it's it's gonna be really a
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: tremendous series. Now, whoever comes out of the series we
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: battle tested, So I always talk about it. Did this
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: NBA playoffs? This is hard, Like, this is really incredible
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: that you have to be tough minded and usually speaking,
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: it's not based on schematics or schemes. It's based on
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: how tough you are and how you value each possession.
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: And so the t Ulves have a bunch of guy
• 36:16
  Speaker 6: that can get baskets against good defense, and they have
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: they have a rugg they have a rugged core, like
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: say Davis Senzo, who's a point guard. Now he's like rugged,
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: So suddenly you know he's trying to slow down Jamal
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: Murray McDaniels are trying to slow down Aaron Gordon and
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: Christian Brown These are all guys that are defensive minded,
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: that can score the balls. So it's going to be
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: a going to be a great series, very similar to
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: also show another good series. I think it's going to
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: be the Lakers versus the Rockets.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: I wanted to get there.
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Lakers Rockets.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: If I tell you, Gordy or any NBA fan out there,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: that the starting lineup for a playoff team is going
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: to be Ruey, Hatchimura, Dean and Marcus Smart, Luke Canard
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: and somebody else, you're saying that team's probably gonna lose
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: in the playoffs. But when you have Lebron James as
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: that guy, it changes things significantly. Nineteen points, thirteen assists,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: He had eight defensive rebounds. That was the same he
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: didn't have any offensive rebounds in the game, So nearly
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: a triple double for Lebron's He's my age, Gordy, and
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: he's still doing it at this level. Can he continue
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: through a playoff series, even one and drag this team
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: to a victory over the Rockets.
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: Yes, especially if Kevin Durant doesn't play. Durant had the
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: right knee contusion did not play in Game one. In
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: Game two, which tonight at tonight that we don't know
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: if he's gonna play not, we'll see it as far
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: as if he's gonna try to warm up, and they
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: take it from there. The answers yes. And also Sean's
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: alluding to you know, Sean O'Connor is a very also
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: young man. He's only age forty one, all right, So
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: Sean to get the ability of you and Lebron James
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: in the same sentence, I love it.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Anytime I could put myself next to Lebron for comparison,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: it's a good thing for me.
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: I like it. Speaking of that Luke Canot, they traded
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: for him, left handed knockdown shooter twenty seven points and
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: so now in a double team Lebron, they have a
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: variaudable shooter on perimeter. The Lakers are playing without Luka Dantch.
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: He's not there right now and that's affected them and
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: also Austin Reeves. But Sir Luke Conot is this guy
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: that's a southpoor, very Sean, very similar to you. Also
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: you're a south paw well. During the same sentence, also,
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: and that these guys he can make an open shot.
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: He made five threes right out of miss and the
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: less time a Laker player in a playoff game made
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: five to three point shots without missing him he went
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: five to five in the game was Robert Horry back
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: in nineteen ninety seven.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Wow, Gordy Jase is our guest here on the Sean
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: O'Connell show, our NBA guru for a couple more minutes.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Victor wem Binyama unanimous Defensive Player of the Year for
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: the first time. How many more of these is he
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: gonna win in his career?
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: Fifteen? Yeah? Fifteen, yeah, fifteen. I could be a low bowling. Also,
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: Victor web Byamba is like a generational talent, and you
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: get the feeling like he's like a good guy. Like
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: it's you know, people are like like him because he's
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: the way he plays the game and he's always giving
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: wonderful comments to his teammates and praising them. So, Victor
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: wen Beyamba the Defensive Player of the Year the first
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: year ever they voted on it was nineteen eighty two
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: eighty three season. So Sean, if Bill Russell played, he
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: would have won every year Defensive Player of the Year.
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: That's the first premise. A fast forward to, more importantly,
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: fifty years later, this is Victor Wenbama, unanimous, is the
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: youngest player ever to win the award at age twenty two.
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: So in jazz basketball, as always, let's equate jazz basketball.
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: As they go forward to play against Victor Rebiyama, they've
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: got to figure out some way how to move them
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: around defensively to get away from the rim and the lane.
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: And also when they do penetrate, they've got a master
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: the art form of taking that organized off bounced floater
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: to freeze the shop blocker meaning wen Beyamba. And then
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: also the let's point of that, to go against wen Beyamba,
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: you have to put stress on not on his length
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: but on his feet. You've got to move him around
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: and take him away from the basket and then try
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: to drive it and make him get an early foul
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: trouble by trying to guard driving action versus what defend
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: what the lane sounds so it sounds so interesting, but
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: it gets really complicated and what the application of actually
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: doing it. Let's called basketball.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Gordy, do you have a list today?
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Well let's today Sean Again, We're gonna praise some
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: it's a quick list. We're gonna praise some people with
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: unbelievable Koreas this list today, Sean is the most Korea
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: seasons by NBA players competing in the playoffs, So how
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: many seasons that are NBA? These players play all time
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: in playoffs basketball with sixteen postseason appearances, they are Robert Parrish,
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: Kerry Porter, Derek Fisher, Robert Horry, Scottie Pippen, and Al Hawfin.
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: With seventeen postseasons as a player, they are Clifford Robinson,
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: Shaquille O'Neal, Jason Kidd, Tony Parker and James Harden. Now
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: of the Cavaliers with eighteen postseason appearances, they are Kareem
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: abdul Jabbar and for Kareem the last time he played
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: in the playoffs with nineteen eight and Tim Duncan also
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: at eighteen. The left time Duncan Sean played in the
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: playoffs was two thousand and sixteen. Do you believe it?
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: Ten years ago? The number one category for the most
• 42:14
  Speaker 6: ever postseason appearances, there's three players tied with nineteen. I
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: had to privilege to coach two of them. Cal Malone
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: nineteen postseason appearances eighteen with the Jazz one with the Lakers,
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: would call the last appearance with the Lakers with two
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: thousand and four. John Stockton nineteen postseasons. His last year
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: was two thousand and three and tied. Also the most
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: ever is Lebron James. We know right now this is
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: twenty twenty six. So next year, Lebron, if he does play,
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: we'll break the record when he plays in the postseason
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: for the most ever appearances in postseason, which we next
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: year will be twenty. Thus that's Melissa today, and they
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: add to this. To play in the postseason, besides your
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: own ability, you need durability and need to also trusted
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: sidekicks to help you get to the postseason. So besides
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: your own brilliance, you need other players around you to
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: help you get to the playoffs and to keep advancing.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I almost forgot to ask you this, but I want
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: to before I let you go. Billy Donovan has walked
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: away from the Bulls. What's next for him and maybe
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: more importantly, what's next for the Bulls?
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: Okay, what's next for the Bulls is that they're going
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: to hire probably a younger coach because as they try
• 43:36
  Speaker 6: to rebuild, so it's probably going to be somewhat of
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: an assistant. But with Billy Donovan. Sean, there's no conspiracy theory.
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: But if I'm Billy Donovan again, I coach that providence
• 43:48
  Speaker 6: and I know him very very well. He moving on
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: from the Bulls, which tells me then that here's something
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: else going for him. Sean. Just say, if Steve Kerr
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: retires from the Warriors, just saying, and they're staring at
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: Billy Donovan, they're staring at Tump Thibodeaux, they're staring at
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: Jeff van Gundy to probably replace Steve Kerr. So it
• 44:16
  Speaker 6: could happen. It's it's plausible, interesting, couldn't Sean.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: It could well keep a close eye on all of it.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: And Gordia Chiasa will be joining us throughout. Gordy, you're
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: the man, appreciate your time.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Thank you again, Thanks Sean, Peace out. The hot lunch
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: is next.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: It's the Sean O'Connell Show on ESPN seven ninety two
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: one FM.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: Another one.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: You're tuned to The Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Chevrolet Studio of ESPN seven.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: Hundred Another one. Can you tell me man?
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: It's Steal one in Vegas in this first round playoff series.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: We'll talk with Tom Callahan in just a couple of
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: minutes here and try to figure that out. Big news
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: in the hot lunch, The running Uts have signed another
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: European star. Alec Anigbata, six foot eight with a great
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: shooting percentage, especially from beyond the arc, is headed to
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Salt Lake City. He has signed, and there's going to
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: be a very distinct international flavor. He's from Munich, Germany.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Played fifty seven career games with Ratio farm Ulm. I
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: wish I could tell you a lot about that franchise,
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: that team.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: I can't.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: He's a member of the under twenty team representing Germany.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: He competed in foeba Under twenty euro basketback in twenty twenty.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: So it'll be alec Onigbata, Tyson Chapman, Jackson, Holcomb, Styles,
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Clemens Zati, Lebaki, Jackson, Johnson, David katoa who else am
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: I missing?
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: Kat from?
• 46:06
  Speaker 7: Weber Malic Goma, Yeah, Goma and uh and TJ. Birch Right,
• 46:16
  Speaker 7: and then you don't forget don't forget our guy, No Miyako.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: No Yakov who was big news yesterday.
• 46:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah, so yeah, if he doesn't end up staying in
• 46:26
  Speaker 7: the NBA, draft process.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: He's coming to Utah by.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: The way, alec Aigbota he also dipped his toes in
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: those waters and kind of got the hey, let's let's
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: have you stay overseas or play in college basketball. So
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: he's coming to Salt Lake City six' eight and a
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: good three point, shooter fifteen and a half, point seven
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: point three rebounds and one point three.
• 46:49
  Speaker 7: ASSISTS i would, say oh, see they still need they
• 46:52
  Speaker 7: got a couple of a couple of six foot eight
• 46:56
  Speaker 7: guys at least out of the transfer portal and out
• 46:58
  Speaker 7: Of europe in this. Case If i'm not, mistaken that's
• 47:01
  Speaker 7: like their biggest guys right. Now Maybe i'm Maybe i'm
• 47:04
  Speaker 7: missing somebody. There as far as guys with, SIZE i
• 47:08
  Speaker 7: feel like that's still something That Alex jensen and his
• 47:12
  Speaker 7: staff are probably looking for and probably should be looking.
• 47:15
  Speaker 7: For and then the other, thing don't Forget Lucas longarita
• 47:18
  Speaker 7: is set to come back next.
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: Year that's, right Another european. Guy so.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: If you're looking for a seven, footer the current estimate
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: according To google is that they are a total of
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: three thousand seven footers on Planet.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: Earth so they don't just grow on. Trees the same.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Search so it's a twenty Eleven Sports illustrated article that
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: said seventeen percent Of american men who were at who
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: were seven feet tall had played in THE. Nba so
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: you gotta if you're seven feet tall And, american you
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: got a one to five chance to play in THE.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: Nba and that's from twenty.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: Eleven so probably now that's if you're seven feet tall
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: anywhere in the, world because someone's gonna find you and
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: funnel you into.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: Basketball need to make.
• 48:12
  Speaker 7: A trip over to The, netherlands, right just find the
• 48:15
  Speaker 7: Athletic dutch guy who happens to be six foot.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: TEN i was at The amsterdam airport last weekend AND
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: i saw like eight people who are pushing seven Foot
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: everyone in that country is so dang, tall the, men the,
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: Women they all make you feel very. Short, james you're
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: a tall. Guy you're taller than most people in most.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Rooms you go to the airport In, amsterdam you're, Regular.
• 48:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah your. Average, yeah that's gotta be strange for certain.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: People i'm six foot one And i'm looking up at,
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: everybody including like the middle aged woman taking my ticket
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: at the.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: Counter i'm just, like why.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Are you so?
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Tall scaring.
• 49:02
  Speaker 7: Me you're not a short guy by it objective standards
• 49:06
  Speaker 7: and you and you feel that way, too.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Am there man over, THERE i am tallest nation in
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: the world apparently, Anyway, uh this is not geography. Radio
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: as we've talked about. Before it was a strong first
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: two periods for The Utah. Mammoth they fell apart in
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: the final twenty minutes Against vegas In game. One how
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: do they reverse those fortunes and steal one on the
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: road in their playoff. Series we'll talk about it With
• 49:33
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• 51:04
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• 51:07
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• 51:10
  Speaker 4: Sir, hey great to have great to be back. On
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: i'm excited to talk playoff hockey.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: Here, well, LOOK i want to get to The mammoth
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: and The, knights but You're buffalo born and, raised as
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: indicated in Your twitter bio and your. Sabers finally back
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: in the win column in the playoffs after a long.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: Time.
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: The Buffalo, Sabers the whole city's going. Nuts i'm really
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: excited for my, friends everybody back. Home it just. Wow
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: it's crazy to think it's been fifteen years since they've
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: won a playoff, game and you, know the city is
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: just erupting and excited about. It and of, course you,
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: know part of it is everybody expected it to be
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: The Buffalo bills that was going, to you, know really
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: be the torch bearer for trying to win.
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: This city a.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: Championship right, now the momentum is Behind buffalo and it's.
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: Great you, know it's really fun to see For buffalo
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: getting back in for the first time in a long.
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: Time the city's fired, up and it's kind of in
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: a way very similar To utah with the city getting
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: fired up to support this team for the first time
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: getting into the, postseason and you know, it there's nothing
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: to energize the fan base like a playoff.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: Run, well we're hoping that this could be a deep
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: playoff run for The Utah. Land with first two periods
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: they looked. Awesome period, three things kind of went off
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: the rails a little.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: Bit tell me how it. Happened from your, perspective, WELL.
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: I think what you saw was A vegas team that
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: has a lot more been, there done, that not That
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: utah doesn't have, experience and that's why they went out
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: and got you, know guys who have Those Stanley cup
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: rings like your Stand lunds and Your schmidt's and even
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: b Tech banicheck won last year with The. Panthers that experience.
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: Matters you, Know, sergachev they've been. There but what we
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: saw From, VEGAS i, thought and, yes there is a
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: Legitimate John tortorella coaching bump for This vegas.
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: Team it's a new.
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: Voice in their. Room they're, energized they're. Excited they played
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: great in the regular, season but they were just a
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: little bit harder to play. Against they turned it up
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: that extra, notch especially in the third. Period vegas did not.
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: Panic the game was played mostly five on, five WHICH
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: i actually felt Favorite. Utah they really did a nice
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: job staying, discipline staying out of the. Box But vegas
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: was a little more, physical a little heavier on the,
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: puck WHICH i think is really important in the, playoffs
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: and the mammoth just you, know kind OF i don't
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: want to use the word defensive, shell but that's kind
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: of what it. Resembled they started not taking the plate To.
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: Vegas vegas started taking the plate to, them and to,
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: me once you do, that you're just giving the momentum
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: to the other. Team so that's a lesson for these
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: guys to learn, that you, know, hey this sure sixty
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: minutes is what it's going to, take maybe, more and to,
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: say you know, what we've seen this team below leads
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: in the regular season all year. Long hopefully they've been
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: learning from those. Two but the playoffs is a completely
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: different animal and there's zero quit in any opponent and
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: they have to finish it off with all sixty, minutes
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: and they just didn't quite do.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: It that physicality obviously was a major topic of conversation
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: during the. Game after the, game you, KNOW i imagine in
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: the dressing, room it was a topic of. Conversation And
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: vegas has a little bit more. Size are there ways
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: that you can manipulate the game so that that size does,
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: NOT i guess represent itself so, significantly especially on you,
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: know in front of the, crease especially when you're trying
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: to get bodies down there to confuse heart's vision and things.
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: Like that.
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: You, know that is really the key. Question if you're
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: going to play perimeter Against, vegas you're not going to
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: score a ton of. Goals and, yes your gunter's and
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: coolies of the, world those guys can score from those
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: those shooting. Angles they do and they're some of the
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: most talented hockey players in the. World but it's not
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: going to be the way you're going to make that
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: happen every single. Time and so really the two things
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: THAT i think to counteract that that you have to
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: do is you really do have to use your speed
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: to get the pucks ahead of the other team turn
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: their defense. Around it's the way you chip and. Chase
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: it's the way you get those defensemen to, pivot because
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: If vegas defensemen keep a good, gap meaning how close
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: they are to the forwards while they're backing into the defensive,
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: zone it's much harder to get around. Them and you,
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: Know vegas is smart enough that their d will do
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: either a hit and pin on the wall and then
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: release the guy because they get that little two count
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: before it turns into, interference or they'll get a piece
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: of the guy going. Wide vegas has to use speed
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: coming from other, angles so maybe the guy who chips
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: it in isn't the player going to get the. Puck
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: you need a secondary four checker in. There that's really
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: how you're going to counteract that physical. Play but then
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: once you're in a battle on the, wall you just
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: have to win with energy and enthusiasm and strength and
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: being smarter by supporting the puck up high as opposed
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: to cheating the game as they, say and trying to
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: be down. Lower you're, like, oh i'd be in a
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: better scoring. Situation, well you need to be on the
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: defensive side of the puck so that if it does
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: come out that, way and supporting that puck, battle then
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: you're still going to end up with possession and you
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: can keep.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: It in the.
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: Zone so there's a lot of those little things they
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: can do and they really do need to do with.
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: REGULARITY i said it on this on the, podcast And
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: i'll sit again here At Playoff hockey. Details it is
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: doing all of those things we just talked, about and more,
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: right as often as you, can every single, time as,
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: impossible but as often as you can to continue to
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: make sure that you are the team that has the
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: puck more than the other team and generates the scoring.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: Chances you AND i have talked all season, long and
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: several times we've discussed special, teams and right now it
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: feels like the penalty kill is in a bit of an,
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: awkward maybe problematic.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: Spot what can they?
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: Do killing penalties is all. Effort it is one hundred percent,
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: effort and it. Stops it starts as the most physically
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: taxing thing you can do in a hockey. Game you
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: are constantly going back and forth your in, motion and
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: the discipline of the penalty kill is what they really
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: need to focus. On it is, maintaining you, know the.
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: Box it is making sure that you're not getting caught
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: chasing a, guy and they've been guilty of that on
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: different occasions this, year especially skilled. Players sometimes you'll see
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: them almost like you, know they become entranced by watching
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: whoever it, is you, know THE, ikl the, marner whoever
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: up and down the, world or carrying across and then
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: all of a, sudden the minute they cross over with
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: someone else and they carry the pug. Deep if you
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: don't have the communication to know who's doing, what that's
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: when the box breaks. Down it causes an Nod man
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: situation where there's a guy free, somewhere and that's that's really.
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: IT i, mean it's it's going to be the discipline
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: and the hard work to keep your, formation to not
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: chase and to not get caught, watching you. Know it's
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: it's also that that you, know mental acuity to stay
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: sharp at that point in the. Game it really is
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: more than anything. Else that's why you don't always see
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: superstars out there killing. Penalties some, do but not all
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: of them do because they don't have the discipline and
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: the focus to be able to execute that game plan
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: all the. Time and that's really what it. Is it's
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: executing the game. Plan and quite, frankly, look sometimes on
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: a penalty, kill you just get. Beat some team makes
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: an awesome. Play there is one more guy on the other.
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: TEAM i mean that happens.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Sometimes Tom, calahan our guests talking, You Tom mammoth as
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: we get ready for game two tonight In vegas right,
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: Now utah of course trails The Golden knights won zero
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: after the comeback victory For vegas in game. One all,
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: Right so if you're looking for a tone, setter if
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: you're looking for somebody that can early in this game
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: and consistently all the way. THROUGH i suppose Let vegas
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: know that what happened in that third, period the bully
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: ball that they were able to, play is not going to.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: Happen is there one person on This mammoth roster who
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: can do? It is it going to have to be
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: a concerted team. Effort do you have to fight to
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: send that? Message how do you get that?
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: Done all the? Above all the? Above, yes you can
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: fight to send that message some. Teams do you? Know
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: it's easy for me to go ahead and, Say brandon
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: tan if you need to be that, Guy and we've
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: talked before about how you, know he's really at the
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: disappointing season AND i wish he would be that, guy
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: But i'm convinced at this point he's, not So i'm
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: not for him to be the. SOLUTION i don't know
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: if they're toying with the idea of Putting tune in the.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: Lineup i'd love to See liam O'Brien out, there but
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: the guys WHO i know are going to be out. There,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: McBain even THOUGH i know he's probably a little banged,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: up he's a guy who can be one of those.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: Players but really the guy in the line that needs
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: to do this is. Lost And kraus and his line
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: With schmaltz And, keller they were minus eight in game.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: One they cannot be minus.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: Eight in game.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: Two And kraus is a big. Guy he's a physical.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: Guy he can create space on the. Ice he absolutely
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: he's got a letter on a sweater for a. Reason
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: he absolutely needs to be that lead by, example get
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: in their face. Guy he used to have the nickname The.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: Sheriff he used call it lost And kraus the. SHERIFF
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: i would love to see the sheriff saddle up and ride.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: Again if we're Grading veggie from that first playoff appearance
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: we've seen with him in a mammoth, uniform how.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 5: Do you do he was.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: FINE i didn't have a problem with this. Game AND
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: i Know i've been maybe one of his harsher critics this.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: YEAR i really didn't have a problem with the. GAME
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: i didn't think either goaltender was over the, top spectacular
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: or really. Bad you, KNOW i think he did enough
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: that they could have won that. Game, YEAH i THINK
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: i think he was. FINE i think he appeared to
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: handle the nerves. Fine for, me it is more in
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: the playoffs about team defensing goaltending being hand in hand
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: with one, another and so the More utah does take
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: care of their own under the front of their own,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: net veg is going to give him more often than,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: not he's going to give him the first, save but
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: they have to take care of it from there because
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: sometimes there are, rebounds sometimes there are. Leakers they just
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: have to really be aware in those. SITUATIONS i didn't
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: think he had a bad. Game you, know could he
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: have given them one more saved and maybe steal it, Now, yeah,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: sure BUT i. WASN'T i wasn't unhappy with the way he.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: Played Logan cooley scored the mammoths first playoff. Goal maybe more,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: INTERESTING i don't know if it's more important for me
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: was the way that he was just getting under the
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: skin of The. KNIGHTS i, mean even guys who are
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: much older than, him veteran players that have seen playoff.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: Hockey it seemed like there was a certain amount of
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: focus On, cooley and you, know we saw the face
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: washing and things like that from him and from everybody
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: really in this. Game but how do we make sure
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: that he continues to have a big impact in this.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: Series let me Take jazz fans into the way back
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: machine and talk About stockton And. Malone when those guys
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: took the court in the, postseason it was different and
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: they knew. It you knew. It everyone knew. It there
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: was another. Level AND i think when you look At
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: Logan cooley what he showed us that even though it
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: was his first playoff, game he is going to be
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: one of those. Players it is different and his game is.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: Elevated it brings new. ELEMENTS i don't think he could
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: play like that for an eighty two game schedule and
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: really survive to have a long and fruitful career because
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: that kind of pace burns you. Out but in the,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: PLAYOFFS i think if you can maintain it for two,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: months you're going To Stanley. Cup AND i think he's
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: one of those guys that is going to Be we're
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: going to look back when he's done and say that
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: was one of the best playoff performers ever to wear
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: A Utah mammock uniform throughout the course of his. CAREER
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: i love what we saw From Logan cooley AND i
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: am excited by, it AND i hope that everybody else
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: on the bench is watching because that was phenomenal AND
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: i want to see more out of, it more out of,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: him and more out of the guys on his, line
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: more out of the guys on the bench next to.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: Him Go, wow look at this. Kid he is out
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: there and giving it his, all and he has that
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: extra level to keep him, going to wind him up
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: and let him. Go he's, young he's, Young he's got.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: ENERGY i used to know what that was, like BUT
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: i don't. Anymore you, know it's he's he can do,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: it and he will do it because he wants. To
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: he relishes that, role and he's fired up to be
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: in the. POSTSEASON i don't think you need to do
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: anything except let, him let him keep running at it
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: and have some fun, playing AND i think they'll they'll
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: have success with him in the.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 5: Series.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: UH i never like to overreact to any singular, game
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: but obviously we're we're in the playoffs, now so each
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: game becomes much more. Important and you already addressed the
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: fact that The, Krouse Keller schmaltz line didn't have the
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: night that they needed. To And Clayton keller is a
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: captain on this team and he's had an up and down.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: Year it feels like the tail end of the regular
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: season he was really kind of rounding into a form
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: THAT i thought would translate well to playoff. Hockey are
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: did we see that from him individually In game?
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: One AND i don't think we. Did so.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: What does he need to do to step up to
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: justify you, know our expectations of?
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: Him, well AS i mentioned a moment, ago to see you,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: know loss And krouse get out and helped him create
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: room with help BECAUSE i and the guy ACTUALLY i
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: picked who the series would swing on As Nick schmaltz
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: out of everybody on the. TEAM i Think Nick maltz
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: can swing the. Series But, keller, obviously being the third
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: man in this, unit needs to be a captain and
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: with his leadership values here and just really kind of
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: make sure that he's on top of the other guys and, saying,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: look this is how we need to. Play our line
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: needs to instigate. This we need to be the leaders out.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: There you. Know it shouldn't Be Logan. Cooley it shouldn't
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: Be Dylan, gunther who during the regular SEASON i thought
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: was the scrappiest player at times That utah, had which
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: is a crazy thought because he's your leading goal. Scorer
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: keller is A he's been a little bit more of
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: a quieter. GUY i would like to see his leadership
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: style blossom into something that's a little more out loud
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: here in game number. Two and to your point of
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: you don't want to swing a series on a, GAME
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: i look At. DALLAS i mean look At Dallas. Minnesota
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: minnesota pounded them six to one In game. One the
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: starts didn't even show. Up that was a horrible. Showing
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: dallas went back out there in One game, two so
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: things change night. Tonight seven games is an awful lot of,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: hockey especially against the same team night in night. Out and,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: look these guys that we're talking, about all three of
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: them are. Veterans they know what, Happened they understand that
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: they did not play, well and there's a lot of
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: professional pride involved. Here they will come back with a
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: bounce back. EFFORT i can pretty much guarantee. That now
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: are they going to be on this course? SHEET i
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: don't one hundred percent, no because they're drawing those top
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: line defensive. Assignments BUT i do think they're going to
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: be much better In game two In. Vegas so you know,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: What Clayton kellery have the spotlight on. It absolutely it.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: Is BUT i just me. Personally the only THING i
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: would like to see is probably a little more emotion
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: and a little more demonstration on the. ICE i want
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: to see him being that guy as.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: Well Tom callahan for another minute or two here on
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: The Sean Off Connell show talking playoff, hockey AND i
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: want to expand our viewpoint here to the rest of
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: The Western conference and even in The. East you already
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: alluded To Stars. Wild that series is now tied at one.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: Apiece tonight you've Got Colorado. La colorado leads the series one.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: Zero what do you expect to happen? Tonight and in
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: the rest of that?
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: Series you know oc out of all the, series this is.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: INTERESTING i forget where it. Was it might have BEEN
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: Nhl network or one of, those or maybe it was
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: the satellite, version but that is the only series where
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: not a single host picked The. Kings every other series
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: there was at least, one if not more bout for
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: a split amongst who they thought would. Win nobody's picking The.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: Kings and it's not THAT la is a bad. TEAM
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: i think they can hang Out. COLORADO i just don't
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: think they can win a seven gamer against. Them SO
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: i Think colorado is going to get Past la probably
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: in four or. Five you, know MAYBE la can can
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: get a couple out of them and extend that. One
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: dallas And, MINNESOTA i from the BEGINNING i thought was
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: going the distance because these two teams are really really well.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: Matched and then you Know edmonton And anaheim looking at
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: the west, There i'd love to see The, ducks you,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: know kind of show up a little bit. More but
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: kingrats by the way To Connor ingram his first playoff,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: win Former, mammoth and that For, EDMONTON i just Think
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: anaheim has the. WEAPONS i just worry that there are
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 4: a little out of gas and maybe The. Oilers are
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: you going to get through that one a little bit
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: easier than we all?
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: Hope The Penguins, flyers The All pennsylvania, series you Got
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: philadelphia on top to, nothing And england's fans were booing
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: their own team off the ice before this thing was
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: even over last. NIGHT i, MEAN i, Know East Coast
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: hockey And Pittsburgh hockey's built different in their expectations are
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: different than a lot of us out. Here was, just you,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: know happy to be at the party right. Now but, man,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: harsh harsh reality for a team with a lot of Aging.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: Stars, well that's exactly. It penguins fans know this is
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: probably the last kick of the can and the number
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: one they don't want to lose because they don't want
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: that For Sidney crosby Or mulkan or any of those.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: Guys but they sure don't want to lose To, philly you.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: Know and that's that desperation is born as much of
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 4: the fact that this is The flyers that are up
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: to zero in the series as anything, else WHICH i,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 4: mean you know, What philly's playing pretty good right. Now
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: they played well going into the. Playoffs pittsburgh quite frankly shocked.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: EVERYBODY i keep Thinking pittsburgh's window closed four years, ago
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: but yet here they are second in the. Division so
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 4: The penguins aren't out of this, series but they better
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: wake up in a hurry because going on the road
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: To Philly game, three there's not a whole lot of
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: must wins, here But game three For pittsburgh is a must.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: Win we've got a couple more days Before Delta center
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: hosts the very first playoff hockey, GAME nhl playoff hockey
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: game in our state's.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: History what's that going to?
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: Be?
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: Like it, Nuts it's going to be. Crazy it's going
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: to be so much. Fun it's the energy is, incredible
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: and you, know it was FUNNY i was reading the
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: anecdote somebody was referencing online about you, know that's the
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: only building Where Phil jackson ever needed. Earplugs you, KNOW
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: i thought to, Myself, man that just the multiplied by
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: the enthusiasm and the energy behind, hockey and just like
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: what modern fandom has become in, SPORTS i think that
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: it's going to be. Exciting the energy is going to be.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: Amazing it will be a party like. ATMOSPHERE i think
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: everybody is pretty darn happy to be in the. Postseason,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: eventually believe, me we're all going to get to a
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: point where you want to win every single time out
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: in every single playoff, series and anything less than a
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: couple won't be good. Enough but this year is something
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: special because it is the first time and it is
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: against the team that's easy to hate In, vegas AND
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: i think it's just going to be probably the best
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: party that downtown the scene in an awful long. Time
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: and it's going to be.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 5: So loud in that.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: Building it's already loud in the regular. Season bring your ear.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: Plugs it's going to be.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: CRAZY i don't like to be the sports media guy
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: who tries to force anything to force feed rivalries or
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: things like, that but it feels Like utah And vegas
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of natural ingredients for an authentic rivalry
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: to develop between these two, teams and playoff hockey can
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: accelerate that.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: Signal is this you see the makings of something?
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 5: Here?
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah ABSOLUTELY i. Do WHEN i was With, nashville
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: WHEN i was doing play by play with the, most
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: we came into a series against The Anaheim, ducks neither team
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: cared about the other team before that, series and then
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: in that six game playoff, series Which nashville, won an
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: instant rivalry was born and for the next like five
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: or six seasons pretty much Until Corey perry left The. Ducks,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: Uh nashville And anaheim was one of the biggest burning
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: rivalries in THE. Nhl and that it just it was
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 4: born out of the. Playoffs AND i do see that
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: With vegas, because AS i, Say vegas is an easy
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: team to make Your Darth vader or you, know with
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: insert villain, here because of the way they run. Things
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: they very much and they're cool with. It they're cool
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: with being The Evil. Empire they're cool with being the
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: team you love to, hate so THAT i think unto
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: itself already walking into what people are going to be.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: Predisposed utah fans are gonna, be, oh we don't like these.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: Guys but now on the, ice it's going to get even.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: Better it's going to get even more, obnoxious and there's
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: a lot of things you can glom. Onto plus the
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: geography is. There they are a new, Franchise we are
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: a new. Franchise like there's a lot of. Things there's
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: going to be a lot of comparisons between the. Two
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: SO i really believe that there is all the makings
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: of A vegas.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: Rivalry last thing BEFORE i let you go. In it
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: has nothing to do with The mammoth or the playoffs
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: or anything. Else but there's a really interesting article in
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: The athletic about how The seattle hockey experiment is not
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: going well right now and some of the factors that
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: might be contributing to. That attendance is, good but the
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: results on ice are just not. There is it going
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: to take an ownership change you think to jumpstart the?
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: Kracking Oh, NO i don't think it'll take an ownership.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 4: Change it definitely will take a hockey ops direction. CHANGE
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: i remember back when they were setting that team up
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: that they went a completely different direction than anyone expected
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: in building that, team because everybody was thinking the way
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: the expansion draft set up For seattle day'd have the
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: same success As vegas and building their. Team yet the
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: way they built that team was much more plugger grinder,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: traditional we're going to lose sixty games while we figured
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: out expansion. Team AND i was kind of shocked by
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: that they did not go after some really, big notable names,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: who by the, way Including Serge bobrovski was out. There
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: they could have plucked him as one of their expansion.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: Goaltenders there were a lot of moves they did not
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: make at that time that left a lot of us
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: scratching our. Head and then they brought In Dave hackstall
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: as a head, coach the first head, coach and he
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 4: had never had a ton of. Success it was weird
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 4: how they almost talked themselves into being an expansion team
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: in an old school kind of we're going to be
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: bad for a while, away Whereas vegas did not do.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 4: That so they've been set up since before they took
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: the ice as a team THAT i felt was behind
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: the eight. Ball they haven't draft, well they certainly haven't scouted.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: Well they've spent money in weird. Places they threw a
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: ton of money At Philip. Grubauer there's just a lot
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 4: of signings that didn't go. Well that's a front office.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 4: Thing it's got nothing to do with. Ownership they just
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: really need a different hockey culture in that building if
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: they're going to get it.
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  Speaker 2: sides are feeling some type of way about this. Matchup
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  Speaker 2: former jazz Man Rudy gobert had some things to, say
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• 1:19:42
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  Speaker 5: You, KNOW.
• 1:19:45
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• 1:19:51
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  Speaker 2: IMPACT i know that there are some people who don't
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: Love Rudy. GOBERT i know that there are some people
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: who don't love this reaction to things From Rudy. GOBERT
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: i absolutely. Do the man. Cares and by the, way
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: this version of caring and being salty about it is
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: way better than like the crying over not making An
• 1:20:15
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• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: Game but that is all care. Factor and that.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: Was a clever response to a, Question, hey how'd you
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: shut down those particular matchups With?
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: Joker and he's just, LIKE i was.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: Lucky i'm not a top three, defender so obviously it's
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: just a luck. Thing because he was left out of
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: the top three voting and defensive player, there he wasn't
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: gonna win it, anyway all.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: RIGHT i think he knew That.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: Victor Wembin yama got the award, unanimous first time that
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: player has ever been unanimously Voted Defensive player of The.
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  Speaker 2: Year wemby deserved, it And Rudy, gobert that's his Fellow, frenchman,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: Right he's probably, like If i'm gonna lose to. ANYBODY
• 1:20:54
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  Speaker 2: person in THE NBI i have to look up. At
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  Speaker 2: Your whole, identity your whole game is you are a
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  Speaker 2: defensive stopper and you're still doing it at the level
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: That Rudy gobert is doing, it and you're on a
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: playoff team that is a playoff team partially because you're
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: so good at doing that. Job of, course you would
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: get salty about. It AND i love that it motivates,
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: him even though he says it. DOESN'T i love that
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: it motivates. Him AND i think we're gonna get a
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: better version of this series because of, it because he's
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: going to do his best to make a point in
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: defending the best.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: Player in the, League. Joker.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah AND i will say, THIS i don't know that
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 7: it's helped his reputation across the, league across the, country
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 7: but he has done these last two so, far in
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 7: these first two games of this playoff, series and what
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 7: he did last, season particularly in the first two rounds
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 7: and their wins over The lakers and and The, warriors
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 7: where he punished small lineups for the first time in
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 7: his career in the, playoffs and the way he's played
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 7: defensively in these first two games he has done in
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 7: the areas that he can. Control he's done so much
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 7: for all the questions and, fair, fair unfair that he
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 7: had while he was in A Utah jazz, uniform how
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 7: he was a minus so to, speak in the, playoffs
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 7: how teams could scheme against him in the, playoffs he
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 7: has completely changed that to the point where He jokics
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 7: was one for eight when When rudy guarded him last,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 7: night he was six for ten when everyone else guarded.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 7: Him like that's real, impact in addition to what we
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 7: saw last year when he played against smaller lineups and
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 7: and had like twenty twenty games in the biggest time
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 7: in the biggest games in the. Playoffs hopefully he can
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 7: continue that in this year's playoffs and they continue to
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 7: win playoffs, series and hopefully the national media and everybody
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 7: else that still thinks he's liability in the playoffs takes,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 7: notice But i'm not sure they.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: Will jayden McDaniels also had some thoughts on The, nuggets
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: and this is gonna make people.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: Mad some of the keys off that's post to really get.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 10: Rid go out For, Jokis, jamal all the bad, Defenders Tim,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 10: Hardaway Cam, Johnson Aaron, gordon the whole. TEAM i just
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 10: go out Of they're all bad.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: Defenders, yes give me this in every series of every.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: SPORT i want. It in, baseball we got a long regular.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: SEASON i want people he's a bad, pitcher that guy
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: can't hit before every.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: Game spice it up a little, bit, baby do The
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: jaydon McDaniels.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 7: Equivalent, hey so how do You how are you able
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 7: to just put the ball wherever you want? TO i
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 7: just look for wherever that guy is AND i hit
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 7: it at. HIM i, just you, know like.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: IF i can hit it to left, FIELD i know
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: that good things are going to happen because he stinks.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: Great it's the simple and mean spirited and effective. Insult
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: they're all bad. Defenders, yeah they're all bad.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 7: Defenders it's like my wife grew up playing volleyball and
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 7: she's and there's a thing in Volleyball i've learned where
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 7: they're like they're like hit it at, her like you
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 7: you target the weak point, right you do that in every.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 7: Sport but in volleyball they're, like, yeah that's the spot right.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 7: There pick up, basketball they say he's playing for, us you,
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 7: know like, yeah you you don't often hear it in the,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 7: media the comments to the, media because you you usually
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 7: want you usually want to stay away from the bulletin
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 7: wore board. Material But jade McDaniels just having none of.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 7: That he's, like he's, like, hey they they suck at,
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 7: defense so will be good at.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: Offense all.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: Right we've talked about the possibility of, guardrails collective bargaining
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: something to fix the system of pay for play and
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: tampering and all that stuff in college.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: Sports and.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: Even THOUGH i think if you're a student athlete right,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: now you probably look at it and you, say, no,
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: man shut. UP i don't want there to be. CAPS
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: i don't want there to be. LIMITS i don't want
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: my team to have a salary. Cap you, do you really,
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: do not to limit your, earning but to make it
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: a more competitive. Field as the arms race, continues there's
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: been several articles this offseason about coaches saying that we
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: might have a sixty million dollar college football roster next,
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: Year Like texas is rumored to be looking that. WAY
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: usc is looking to be rumored that. Way Texas tech
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: last year was thirty five forty and people were, like oh,
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: cool well that's. Great it got you to the, playoff
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: but then you stunk in that, playoff, RIGHT i, Mean
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: michigan's roster right now is an expensive. Roster even in women's,
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: hoops which is a borderline revenue, sport it is growing
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: into being a revenue.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: Sport the arms race is.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: Insane Audie, crooks formerly With Iowa, state we saw this
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: she announced her transfer To Oklahoma. State so staying in
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: the conference good thing for The Big. Twelve one of
• 1:26:33
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• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: dominant inside presence we've seen in college basketball. Recently and
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: the report out, there and again this is agents that
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: give this, information so take it with whatever grain of
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: salt you need. To is that This Oklahoma state Women's
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: this is Not South, carolina this is NOT, lsu this
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: is Not Notre, dame this is Not. Yukon this Is Oklahoma.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: State and she is good enough to and would be
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: desirable at any of those. Spots But Oklahoma state is
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: allegedly paying one point four million dollars For Audie crooks
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: to play a season In. Stillwater now one point four
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: million dollars in the grand scheme of college athletics right.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: Now you look at it and you, say that's. Okay
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: plenty of people are making that kind of. Money plenty
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: of college football players are making that. Money men's college
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: basketball players are making way more than. That we just
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: talked about WHAT byu is having to pay to maintain
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: the roster that they've got in women's. Basketball the interesting
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: thing here and the dynamic that's developing here is we
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: just announced a new collective bargaining agreement in THE wnba
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: that did a ton of, work a lot of lifting
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: of the. Floor went from sixty grand to three hundred.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: Grand all, Right but the top players in the league
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: are not really treated or paid like superstars the way
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: THAT nba superstars are. Paid the disparity between the top
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: players pay in THE, wnba they're just over a million,
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: dollars right and the rank and file are now three
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: hundred thousand. Dollars that's not the case IN nba, BASKETBALL nfl,
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: Football Major League. Baseball in THE, wnba they did it that,
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: way and that's they're, Right and that's totally. Fine AND
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: i think they probably realized that The Asia wilsons and
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: The Cameron brinks and The Caitlin clarks are getting a
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: bunch of endorsement money and that's making up the gap for,
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: them and so they were okay being part of a
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: new collective bargaining that elevated all the people beneath. Them
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: But Audie crooks is now the third highest paid female
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: basketball player by salary in the.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: World he's a college basketball she's there's only.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: Two Aliah boston And Asia wilson are the only two
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: on the books salaries in THE wnba higher than the
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: one point four million dollars that that this young woman
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: is going to be paid for a college basketball.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 7: Team and not even like you, said not even a
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 7: historic traditional power in college. Basketball it's It's Oklahoma state
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 7: who clearly feels like they can rise up the ranks
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 7: here if they if they get a star Like Audie,
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 7: crooks so maybe they're on the.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: Rise but, man that's that's.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 7: Unbelievable Oklahoma, state by the, way lost a notable player
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 7: To utah this this transfer. Cycle Joe girardi's, daughter that's,
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 7: right got our granddaughter is a grand probably, Great i'll
• 1:29:48
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• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: Up but related To Joe.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 7: Girardi so, anyway it's not like this, team it's not
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 7: like this team that clearly has these kind of resources
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 7: is just bulletproof in this transfer. Cycle so really.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: Interesting she was being taken care of At Iowa.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: State Iowa state wanted to keep. Her it was like
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: a big.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: Thing, Anyway and you see right now in the UPCOMING nfl,
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: draft there are guys if you are a all, conference
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: in all, conference All, american like top flight college football,
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: player chances are right that you're probably going to have
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: some good things happen for you in THE. Nfl but
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: being the top player on Any division one football team right,
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: now any power for i should say football team right,
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: now if you're the top player regardless of, position but
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: let's say you're the top individual, player you're the team,
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: captain you're probably making at least a million bucks and
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: in a lot of cases more right we're talking power
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: for quarterbacks more than, that but we're talking like you're
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: a pass, rusher you're an offensive, tackle you're a big
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: time wide, receiver you're approaching half a million to a.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 3: Million. Right let's say, though that you're the.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: Best you're the biggest fish in a smallish, pond and
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: you realize when you go you kick the. Tires on
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: conversations with, agents they're, like you're probably like a day five,
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: PICK i mean, sorry a fifth round, pick A day
• 1:31:19
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• 1:31:21
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• 1:31:21
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• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: College is actually better for me right now BECAUSE i
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: am the big fish in this small pond AND i
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: know what the salary looks like over. THERE i know
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: what the league minimum, is and it's like a little
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: bit less Than i'm making right, now AND i can develop.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: Here it doesn't apply to the names that you're seeing
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: ticking across your screen projected first round draft. Picks you're
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: never going to See Spencer fano stay in school instead
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: of going to THE. Nfl but like a land Or
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: barton type player with more eligibility is making or being
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: forced to make those kinds of decisions because they're, LIKE
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: i MIGHT i might make more money.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 3: Here there's a Reason Diego.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: Pavia wanted more eligibility in college because he knows that
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: he's five foot nine and a half and he's just, like,
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: yeah BUT i can stay and make three million bucks
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: to be The vanderbilt. Quarterback OR i can be a
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: sixth round pick in THE nfl and maybe not play
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: like He.
• 1:32:23
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• 1:32:26
  Speaker 3: to be a big part of. It he's the. Guy
• 1:32:27
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• 1:32:32
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• 1:32:33
  Speaker 7: Update It's Lena girardi That utah women's basketball got to
• 1:32:36
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• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: Manager all, right all, Right Joe james was. RIGHT i
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: was wrong. One James peterson bonus point. Two james AND
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: i get docked. One so that's a that's a two point. Swing,
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: yeah it's, huge the big it's a big swing.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: There that's. Devastating do we need to take a break
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 3: so you can? Fine, Okay i'm.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: Fine i've actually tried to Spend James peterson bonus points
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: out in the. Community so, Far no? Good oh, no so?
• 1:33:03
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• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: All, Right we're gonna take a break.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: Here that's the daily dump before we get To Jeff
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: schwartz at the top of the one o'clock. Hour Missouri
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: state is losing one of the most important basketball players
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: into the transfer. Portal but he doesn't want to play basketball.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: Anymore we'll tell you about his football. Measurables, next it's
• 1:33:45
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  Speaker 1: hundred and ninety two to, one.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: Am michael Ose. Bone, sooo.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: Maybe a name you'll have to, learn hopefully a name
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: that is already getting phone calls from The university Of
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: utah coaching. Staff this kid is A Missouri state basketball.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: Player he played center At Missouri. State but he's six
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: four two and eighty nine pounds with a thirty five
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: inch vertical, leap and he has entered the transfer.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 3: Portal not for basketball.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: Reasons michael Ose bon sue has decided he is now
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: going to try out football at the college. Level obviously
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: with those. Measurables and if you go search his name
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: on any social media platform or just any, computer you
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: will see that his. Build if you watch this guy
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: walking across a campus or walking down the, street you
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: would not, THINK i bet that's A DIVISION i basketball.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: Player you would think that guy plays. Football he's six
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: four eighty nine, Pounds he's got big old, shoulders he's
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: got huge. Biceps this man is not built like a basketball.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: Anything he has never played football. Before AND i was
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: reading something this, WEEK i, mean, look we know we've seen, this,
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: Right Caleb looehner did this at The university Of, utah
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: and he's still on AN nfl practice. Squad he's still
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: in That broncos. Organization If i'm not, mistaken the physical
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: traits necessary to play football at its highest level are
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: unique and possessed by a, tiny tiny percentage of the.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: Population and the fact that somehow people possessing those traits
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: can wander around publicly In america and not HAVE i
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: don't know the high school football, coach the local community
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: college football coach of the league. FOOTBALL i don't know
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: how somebody like this has never played footbull.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 3: Before it really drives me absolutely.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: Insane you Know Zaraway, williams who's probably going to be
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: your starting left tackle this. Year you, know he didn't
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: play high school football until his senior. Year he played
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: before seventh, grade and then he didn't play from seventh
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: grade to twelfth GRADE i should say seventh grade through eleventh,
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: grade and then his senior year he played. Again and
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: because he's six, eight three hundred, pounds that translated into,
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: scholarship free, ride now nil. Opportunities and, that by the,
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: way that's not even somebody who was like a star
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: player in, college not. Yet the fact the fact that
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: you can be a teacher and administrator or whatever walking
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: around any middle, school high, school late elementary school and
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: not tell the kid who is. Massive hey, LOOK i
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: don't care if you like football or. Not go get
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: yourself a free. Education pretend you like.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 5: It just.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: TRY i drop my daughter off at elementary school every
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: single day When i'm in. Town there's a kid who's
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: got he's got to be a sixth. Grader there's a
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: kid at the. SCHOOL i don't know his, NAME i
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: don't know anything about. Him he's as big as me
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: and he's an elementary school. Kid the first TIME i saw.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: HIM i was just, Like, wow that dad has a
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: really young. Face and THEN i realized that's not a,
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: dad that's a kid at the. School he looks like
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: if you Shrunk Garrett bowls down to how Big Garrett
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: bowles was when he was a sixth. Grader that's what
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: this kid looks. Like his feet are bigger than my.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: Feet for.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 3: Sure he's.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: Huge And i'm, LIKE i hope somebody is telling that
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: kid to get himself a free education and play.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 7: Football if you tried yelling from the from the drop,
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 7: Offline hey.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 3: Do you you play? Football you're gonna be an offensive.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 3: Tackle you can make. MONEY i got a free, education do.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 7: It i'm yelling at you from my car BECAUSE i
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 7: don't want to look like a.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: Creep kids LIKE i already play. Football shut, up, Dude,
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: okay just make SURE i.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: Don't utah is a great football.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: Program this, Guy Michael Osei, bonsu never played a lick
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: of football and he is going to be given a
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: scholarship and an opportunity somewhere to play football because he
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: is six, four two eighty nine and has a thirty
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: five inch.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 7: Vertical that's thirty five inch vertical at almost three hundred,
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 7: pounds so offensive.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 3: Lineman he should be an offensive.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: Lineman he says he wants to play tight end or defensive,
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: tackle but, again de, tackle.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 3: This is What i'm talking.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: About you just walk up to these people and you,
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: say what do you want to do with your?
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 3: LIFE i don't, know, Man i'm just LIKE. I i
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 3: once hung.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: OUT i once dated a girl who was related to
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: a professional football.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 3: Player, okay they were.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: Cousins they had another cousin who was in my our
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: same age. Demographics so we would hang out with this
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: other cousin and he was six' eight and like two
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: hundred and, seventy pounds and he never played. Football EITHER
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: and i, was like what is? Going on you have
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: someone in your family who's IN. The nfl why are
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: you not? Playing footballers they got like water? Polo better
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: how's that? Working out go To? The olympics, trust. Me
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: insane you know how many like six foot scrubs like
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: me would die to have measurables like this just so
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: they could play football at a. Higher level and these
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: guys are just like walking around wasting the. Good genetics,
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 2: stop it. Early grievance It's. Only tuesday, oh, see yeah,
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: All right i'm excited to see where this kid. Ends
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: up and you, know what he might not ever be good,
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: at football there's a really strong chance, of that but
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: he's got the body to at least, try it and
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: someone is going to give him money to at least.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 7: TRY it, i mean Think about Caleb loner is on
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 7: a practice squad, he had, he had he, caught touchdowns he,
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 7: blocks some he bought. Some kicks he did show that
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 7: he has some, football ability but he did not play.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 3: Very, much right, he did. That's right So.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 7: And i'm Not gonna i'm gonna stop short of saying
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 7: he wasn't. Very good he obviously was good in the
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 7: limited amount of snaps that, he got but we don't
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 7: know if he's if he's a good, football player a
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 7: guy who plays in any kind. Of regularity but here's, The,
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 7: thing james Imagine What caleb lohner would have if he
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 7: can do that with three months of. Football training imagine
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 7: if he had played football his. Whole, Life right, and
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 7: look basketball was not wasted.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 3: On him he had he was a good.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: Basketball player he got, nil money he, got scholarship he got,
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: educated like he got a ton of. Great opportunities so
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: by all me play basketball. And, football yeah he would
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: be so.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 3: Much further ahead as a.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: Football player he'd probably be an active roster guy if.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 3: He would have played like two years at. High.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 7: SCHOOL right i was building, up to like if that's
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 7: the Case For, caleb lohner someone like Like This missouri
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 7: state transfer soon To Be missouri. State transfer with those kind,
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 7: of measurables you might as well, try it even if
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 7: even if you don't play, very much the upside is
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 7: you could at least be a practice squad player after
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 7: four months IN, the nfl get paid a.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 3: Little Bit, all.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: Right he's making the, Decision now good luck in the, Transfer,
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: portal utah bring.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 3: Him In.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 2: Jeff schwartz is going to join. Us next speaking of freaks,
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: and MEASURABLES It's nfl. Draft week we'll Talk With, jeff
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 2: schwartz our football expert, and insider Next On the Sean,
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• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: would just, indulge.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 9: Together buddy after my brother Won The, SUPER bowl i
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 9: was At the chiefs, the PARTY which i, realize now
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 9: it's just for a.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 3: Family party all, the Players like mitch With The bett,
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 3: He's like.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 9: I'm tired, I'M like i. Get it so we. Stayed in,
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 9: You know. Pitbull perform it, was awesome but they had funnel. Cake, Fries,
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 9: yes so like three thirty in, the morning after an
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 9: hour and a Half pit, bull concert on the honest
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 9: day of my entire, LIFE life i. WAS eating i
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 9: was eating funnel cake Fries with meredith at three thirty
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 9: in the morning at Like The North. Miami Marriott After
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 9: rick ross No flow rider and and and and And
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 9: pit will performed For the chiefs friends.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 3: And family just a statement, words.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 9: Together funnel, cake Fries, pit Bull flow rider together. ALL
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 9: together i mean it Was. Flow rider may Name Is
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 9: rick ross is one of the two that were that
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 9: performed For. The chiefs friends.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: And family could not be a better combination, funnel cake fries,
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: and no.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 9: No, chance okay Here's what. I'VE wondered i know you
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 9: have me on to talk about. Other, things okay Every,
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 9: super bowl right has has a performer For The super, bowl, Party?
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 9: Right okay do you think that the winning the Teams,
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 9: decide okay here's the one performer. Or two you get
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 9: it if, we win and if, we lose get, something
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 9: else because like you imagine If the chiefs lost and
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 9: both performed for an hour and, a half that'd, be, Miserable,
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 9: right like do you think That the Niners in chiefs
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 9: That super bowl. Just, decided Okay pit bull's gonna perform for,
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 9: whoever wins and he just goes that hotel and performs
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 9: for that for.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 2: That, team, yeah absolutely the team the losing team doesn't have, a,
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: PERFORMER right i.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 9: THINK they i think, they DO but i don't think
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 9: it's Like. PIT bull i think it's the it'd be the.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 2: Worst whoever is you lose The, super bowl you may
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: never pass this way again in, Your career like it
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: could be the end of.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 3: A dream maybe. You're retiring and then they're, just like, all.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: Right everybody give it up For. Pit bull you'd, be Like,
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: MISTER worldwide i don't love you.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 5: RIGHT now i DO like i do Remember That.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 9: SUPER bowl I Think joe stalley retiring after that GAME
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 9: And i metine like walking off the field, being like
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 9: oh WELL now i got to Go pit.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 3: Bull concert that would.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 9: Be miserable but but, but again the party was for
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 9: the friends. And family there were Like four chiefs. Players
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 9: there they all went to live and my brother, Was
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 9: like i'm going to bed at. One thirty like it
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 9: just it wasn't for. The player there were friends and
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 9: family which probably don't feel quite as dejected as the.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 9: Players do, so yeah But, again pitbull uh and Funnel,
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 9: kick fries what?
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 3: A night? All right.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: The draft is coming up AND this I Asked spencer
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: fono this the other DAY when i saw Him at,
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: utah practice like how, he feels and this was ten,
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 2: days ago probably how it felt to be kind of
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: in this weird yeah, waiting limbo, you know and, he was,
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: you know he gave a. Good answer he's, just, like hey,
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: You know i've been waiting twenty, one years so this
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: is not that big of.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 3: A deal but that's a first.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: Round pick that's a guy who knows that after the
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: next couple of days he's going, to be, you know.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: A millionaire he, already is, But whatever you were not
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 2: one of those first round pick. Type guys and the
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: vast majority of people who do get a phone call
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: this weekend are not seeing their NAMES on espn in the,
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: you know top twenty five. Or whatever so what is
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: the waiting like when you're a guy, who's, LIKE man
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: I hope i get a call on. Day Two maybe
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 2: i'll get a call on. DAY three I hope i
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: get a call. At all in these it's now fifty
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 2: ish hours away from. The draft what is the weight
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: like for the AVERAGE future?
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 5: Nfl, player also do not have millions of DOLLARS of?
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 5: Anhl money yeah, as well.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 9: Or it's a lot of, you know as much as players,
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 9: don'tant admit it's a lot of just like reading stuff
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 9: and can like help, hoping that like, you, know, like
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 9: oh here's, you know this guy has me, ranked here
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 9: this guy's be. Ranked there what are the rumors going
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 9: on about who's? Taking who you know looks sort of,
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 9: Like THAT but i s been out with with my friends,
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 9: and family and, you know there's a little bit, of
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 9: freedom like knowing you're not gonna be, picked, early right
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 9: so the first couple of rounds just can kind of.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 3: ENJOY it i mean that there's a little freedom.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 5: In that.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 9: But it's just, you, know, Anxiousness right you're waiting for
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 9: your next your, next move your next, life decision all
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 9: the work you put in over the years to get for,
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 9: This moment you're just waiting for it. To happen so
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 9: all those sort of emotions are part.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 5: Of it.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: So we've Talked, About fano we've Talked, About lolo we've
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: talked about all these guys who are projected at, the
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: top and, you know these individuals that are going to
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 2: go even ahead. Of them and we keep seeing the
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: mock drafts and the and the big boards and the best.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: Player available how many teams are are drafting based on
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: positional need versus best? Player available when we when we
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: discuss the, FIRST round.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 9: I mean i think most are doing best. Player available
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 9: they sometimes might be the same PLAYER because, i look
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 9: you can't let's say You're, the giants right and the
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 9: best player available on your board as a as a.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 9: Defensive end. At five you don't need a. Defensive ends
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 9: you need. A linebacker you neither, wide receiver you need.
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 9: The safety like so you've got to follow your board
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 9: as far AS just i think the process of getting
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 9: ready for. The draft but in the end you still got.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 9: A draft i think players that you need in the.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 9: Top ten, you know if you're pick, twenty, four okay
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 9: maybe YOUR, your, bpa right your best. Player available you
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 9: have many different, you know many, different OPTIONS but i
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 9: think that they have to sort of early the draft
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 9: have to match up Right, between okay we need.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 3: This player this is what's. Gonna call, you know.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 5: This is what. We need he's.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 9: HIGH enough i don't think you reach, for, players right
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 9: but if you have sort of two players, grated similarly
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 9: you take the player you sort of need for.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 5: Your roster but also you have to think about the
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 5: rest of.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 9: The draft there are a lot of teams this year
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 9: with multiple first, Round, picks Dallas, the Giants, the Chiefs,
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 9: the jets The brown so you might draft something a
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 9: little bit different knowing that you might have a different,
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 9: player later if that, makes. Sense right there's a lot of,
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 9: talk about like What the giants to do at, five
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 9: right and it seems more likely that at ten there
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 9: will be a wide receiver to take right tit or
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 9: t or someone rather than styles or downs right like
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 9: there'll Be mostly so maybe you have the wide receiver
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 9: ranked slightly the same as, as downs but you won't
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 9: find another down to. This draft so you take downs,
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 9: at five you take the wide receiver. At ten so
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 9: those things are all in consideration when it comes to making.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 9: These PICKS but i think most team sean with luck
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 9: to stick to their. Their boards they spent hours and
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 9: months and a lot of time making those.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 5: Boards up.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: You just alluded To the giants having, multiple picks and
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 2: the reason they have multiple picks is because they traded
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: their best interior defensive lineman And The cincinnati bengals gave
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: them back that number.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 3: Ten pick do you like? THAT trade i think THE.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 9: First i didn't For, The bengals and the more thing,
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 9: about it it probably makes a little bit. Of, Sense
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 9: right you're just not gonna get that type of player
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 9: early in. The, Draft right lawrence is one. To one
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 9: there is no one like him at. That position he's
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 9: a nose tackleic lots about the center and don't like
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 9: him IN the nfl and you didn't pay them the
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 9: time they they got a one year extension for twenty.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 9: Seven million the, question, becomes obviously if he plays well,
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 9: this season he's gonna want. More Money, the bengals, the
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 9: tourist he don't, pay, Anybody right so you kind of
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 9: me situation where you're your your your star players are.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 9: Happy again the tenth pick on. The draft clearly they,
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 9: didn't love which he feels like this draft and so
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 9: that that made a little bit of sense there love
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 9: this For. The giants they have a, New Coach, john
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 9: harbaugh who did not Doesn't Know. Dexter lawrence so when
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 9: you come to his off, and, say, HEY man i want,
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 9: more money, he, Goes well i've never seen you play.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 9: For me i'm not giving you more, money yet, you,
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 9: know Right, charad like there's almost no point in doing
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 9: that with a new COACH. In GM so i think
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 9: it makes sense the way they the way they. Handle
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 9: this and they got the tenth pick in the draft
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 9: for for a nose. Tackle man tenth pick in the
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 9: draft for a nose.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 2: Tackle soul could it be a, win, win right because
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 2: we always do this. With, trades Well the giants won
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 2: the trade because as they got the tenth pick for a.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 2: Nose Tackle the cincinnati won this trade because he was
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: the missing piece for a defense that created no pressure
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 2: and had nobody scared with their defensive line Even With.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 2: Trey hendrickson so is this a potential?
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 3: Win.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 9: Win yes every time we talk about, win win it
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 9: brings me To the Office Where michael hood does a win,
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 9: win win like this whole thing. About it it's, Just
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 9: incredible like five minutes for Him and ANGELA and i
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 9: Think an Oscar and pam are going over like win win.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 9: Lost scenarios he's like the classic win win. Win situation it's.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 3: Just great what.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 9: A show my son wants to. Watch it by, the
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 9: way he wants To Watch? The OFFICE should i? Let
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 9: him eleven And a, half's.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 3: Like there's not a ton of crude humor In. The
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 3: office you just won't.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 5: GET it i.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 2: Don't, think yeah the stuff that they're not super, obvious
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 2: about the, CRAZY stuff i.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 9: Don't. Know yeah so my thought IS is i skip
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 9: the first couple seasons because, they're slow AND he i
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 9: know his brain won't like they won't, appreciate that and
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 9: then just go to season three that where it kind
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 9: of starts like there's really not much he needs. To
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 9: know the season Three introduces Andy, and, karen like it
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 9: FEELS like i could start kind of start there a,
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 9: little bit, maybe right it feels right if this this
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 9: does fuck a. Win win But the, bengals man their
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 9: win Is like Game Two. SUPER bowl I don't i
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 9: don't see.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 5: That, HAPPENING.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah i think that the the calculus, for them the
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: pressure on them is a little bit different because They
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 2: Have joe burrow.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 3: Right, NOW yeah.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 2: I don't Think That jackson dart is quite viewed in
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 2: that same Window As joe burrow is.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 3: Just yet but.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 9: He gets, Some really but the, thing is you get
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 9: some really good players at five. And ten it's gonna
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 9: be a great haul.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: FOR them i don't Like, the GIANTS so i don't
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 2: want good things to happen To. THE giants i don't Like.
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 2: THE giants i just have never. Liked them never Been a.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 2: Giants guy interesting Or.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 3: The jets maybe It's Like new, YORK.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 5: Team, I thought i THOUGHT because i played.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 3: On That oh i'm glad that they paid. YOU money
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 3: i don't.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 5: Like you you want a lot of Me In New.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 5: York city you Should Love new. YORK city.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 3: I don't dislike the city. ALL them i do. Dislike this.
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 2: My forty nine ers got the impasse they were stuck
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: At With. Trent williams they got over a two year
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 2: extension for fifty. Million, dollars uh he's not a spring.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 2: Chicken anymore was that a good Number For?
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 9: Trent, williams yes you Al Want trent williams made in,
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 9: his career by, the way or like, you know projected
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 9: to make.
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 3: SO much i think it's like four hundred. Million, dollars,
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 3: no yeah with a. New deal i'm gonna look it
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 3: up right now while you.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 9: It's insane phil. A, buster yeah was a philibuster with
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 9: my almost geting injected story from from.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 3: Theater lot we need to correct.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 2: You Here trent williams total career earning so far two
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 2: hundred eighteen, million dollars.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 5: My buddy said was two, people separately text me that
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 5: was four.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 2: Hundred million well unless he had top secret contracts that
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 2: spat track didn't.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 3: Know ABOUT oh i didn't me?
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 5: Like THAT like?
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 3: I do what's My buddy duke text me that it
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 3: was like for. Million, dollars Now.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 2: Because kirk cousins is going To Pass, TOM brady, I know.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 3: I, Know, that yes with like with like three, hundred, million,
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 3: Right Yeah so trenton doesn't have more.
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 5: THAN that i wouldn't, Think, so no he. Would be
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 5: but but the thing about it is that is that
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 5: you pass.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 9: These guys it's not really about how good or bad,
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 9: you are just at the time when you. Get, Paid
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 9: right so guys get paid now more than they, got paid,
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 9: you know.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 3: Years ago.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 2: So the the highest paid in history, So Far matthew
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 2: stafford is sitting at four hundred and, Eight Million aaron
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 2: rodgers three hundred and, Ninety Four tom brady three hundred and,
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 2: Thirty Two kirk cousins three d in.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 3: Twenty one they lied.
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 5: To me that's. Not good spread spread. The information i'm
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 5: gonna text those.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 3: Guys unfair you should yell, at him.
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 5: You, know what you can yell him in.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 2: This Summer trent williams is the highest paid non quarterback
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 2: in the history OF, the nfl according To The private.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 2: Jet money and he's got More Than derek carr's got
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 2: More Than, Ryan Tannehill, Alex Smith, Lamar Jackson, Joe Flacco.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 9: JOE burrow i THINK you I think i think you
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 9: had to you had to, pay, HIM right, i mean
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 9: he's such a good. Football player what are you gonna
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 9: Do Without. Tret, Williams right it's just there's, JUST well.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 2: I think the option would be that you try to
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 2: you Draft Like caleb lomo and try to plug him
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 2: into play right away at left tackle in, the LEAGUE which.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 3: I don't i don't know that that's what people want
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 3: to do with a guy.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 9: Like, HIM no i Don't think lomu is ready to
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 9: do that. Quite yet and also just, like not you're
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 9: not it's not a wonderful one, replacement. OBVIOUSLY right i Do,
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 9: think lomu if, he's there nine are for taking. Him
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 9: though that's what seems to be like the path they're
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 9: going to, Go THERE and i think one would be.
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 9: Good pro but it's just not a one. For one
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 9: you're not Gonna replaceront, williams, obviously right but you're still
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 9: to win now mode you might as well you have A.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 9: Patron williams just have to do it one.
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 3: Hundred percent you got to. Do it i'm glad they.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 3: Did it.
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 2: Which team you talked about several with, Multiple picks who
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 2: do you think has THE right gm, in place the
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 2: right coach?
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 3: In place.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: The right, you know veterans already on, the roster which
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 2: team IN the nfl takes the biggest forward leap based
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 2: on just the draft when it's all said and done.
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 9: NEXT weekend, i mean the easiest answer Is, the, raiders
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 9: right because they get.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 5: THE quarterback i don't think that.
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 9: There's another, team that like you look at and say
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 9: this one draft Pick on thursday makes us. Exponentially, better right,
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 9: you know If the giants get Downs and tate Downs and,
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 9: Tyson like i'm, not like give him an extra win, this,
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 9: Season right, mendoza, clearly, right clearly you know there are
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 9: four wins, last everything there was. Three wins they could go, plus,
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 9: four right plus five in. Year one it's got To, be,
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 9: Mendoza right and it's the only.
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 5: Correct.
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 2: Answer yeah, WELL see i mean we've talked, about HIM
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 2: and i think he's a. GOOD player I keep i'm
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 2: very impressed with the way he interviews. And stuff but
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 2: you're the one who's been IN the nfl, locker rooms and,
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 2: you said and other people have said the same thing
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 2: that if you're, not winning that boy scout thing might
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 2: wear on some of.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 9: The, teammates yeah, you know it's. It's fine when you when.
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 9: You Win everyone indiana, loved, them Right everything i've got,
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 9: about that but also told the personally was like you're
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 9: SIXTEEN oh i long everyone was sixteen, oh, Two right
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 9: like that's a. Big thing did You see indiana decordinator by,
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 9: the way get into it Like? On, twitter yeah you.
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 9: LIKE that i think.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 3: IT'S funny i.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 9: Think he got really triggered for over nothing Over like
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 9: tysums would, be, like yeah they really kicked our butch
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 9: doing nothing. REALLY difficult, I know i feel like that's like,
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 9: A major like a major like that has been a
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 9: combad as you're going To, GET like i, DON'T know
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 9: i thought that was a.
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 2: Little, AGGRESSIVE no i mean pro when it's such an
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 2: outlier because most of the time all we get is
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 2: coach speak. From coaches so when any of them do,
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 2: Anything else, i'm like. That's fun what's this? GUY'S deal
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 2: i see such a? Wild card, that's fair.
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 5: That's fair HOW was utu spring practice? This year howd?
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 3: TO go i mean we got a little bit, more
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 3: observation which.
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 2: Was great and, TO me, i know this is like
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 2: the low. HANGING fruit i think that there's so much
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 2: weight and see because you've got to replace five starters
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 2: on the, offensive line and you've got some questions on the,
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 2: defensive line and teams don't do a lot if you're
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 2: not good in either of, those places so they've got
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 2: to be really. Good there utah has traditionally had a
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 2: really powerful defensive back field, as well and that's something
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 2: that's a little bit up in. The AIR although i
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 2: like the guys that they have. BROUGHT in i like
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 2: the length of that group, in PARTICULAR and I Love
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 2: sharif shaw's, A developer but THERE'S just, i mean there's so, Many,
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 2: questions like there's so many well does it really gel
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 2: as well with these guys? Doing this and, you know
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 2: it's it's a wait. And see the schedule Works in
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 2: utah's favor, next year even if they're not as good
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 2: as they were. LAST year i think they can have
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 2: a super solid Record in morgan's. First YEAR but i
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 2: feel like sometimes it's my job to get everyone all
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 2: excited and gassed up because we're here on the home of.
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 2: The YOUTHS but i also feel like the correct thing
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 2: to do is to tell the truth and say there's
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 2: a lot of wait and see.
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 9: HAPPENING here I think i rubbed off on you pretty
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 9: well with that wait and. SEE answer i don't, like
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 9: that not get too excited for something before it actually
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 9: before it. ACTUALLY happens I feel i did my job
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 9: here with You in.
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 2: Utah, football well it's partially because of your INFLUENCE on
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 2: i always knew how important an offensive, line WAS but
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 2: i learned a lot more about like the particulars of
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 2: offensive line doing shows. With you and that group is
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 2: is a five starters? TO replace, I mean i don't
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 2: remember the. LAST time I don't i Don't think i've
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 2: ever Seen a utah team that replaced five starters eight
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 2: seven seven three five three zero. Seven hundred if you
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 2: can remember a time between now in the, late NINETIES
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 2: when i really started playing super close attention to, the
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 2: utes they had to replace all five starters in a,
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 2: SINGLE year i don't remember a.
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 3: Single one that's.
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 9: A lot that is, a lot you know by when
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 9: you're not at this agent with. Your daughters emman just
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 9: walked into. MY office i tore her. Two minutes she
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 9: rolled her eyes at me in disappointment. AND left i
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 9: don't know what. She wants i'm guessing, it's food because
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 9: also my parents are here and my wife, is here
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 9: so there's like three other adults that make. Her food
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 9: and she had come, up here roll her eyes at
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 9: Me to i'm off here quick enough to make her grilled.
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 2: Cheese, sandwich, okay well let me tell you what my
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 2: daughter did to. Me, yesterday okay she had HER first
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 2: t ball game of. The year uh what on The
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 2: of april we it's snows, out, Here dude emmy has
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 2: only three games left. This, season yeah you live In.
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 2: The south we live in a high desert in. The
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 2: mountains and, last WEEK.
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 9: If i bring her out there for, a weekend can
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 9: she get a couple of games in like in like In? Mid,
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 9: june yeah.
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 2: Why not so, they're playing, they're playing they're playing their
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 2: first GAME of, t, ball right and they put her
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 2: on the, pitcher's mound and every hit was going straight
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 2: to her and she was.
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 3: Killing it she was, doing awesome fielding every ball in
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 3: the glove on the. FIRST attempt i was. SO impressed i.
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 2: Was amazed the throwing to first base is, something else
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 2: we got to work, on THAT but i Was so
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 2: i'm cheering for her loud, on purpose, being, obnoxious right
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 2: and she's.
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 3: Getting embarrassed she's.
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 2: Getting embarrassed so, She's, like dad stop and she's giving
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 2: me like the fingers to, the lips the, shush right
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 2: AND so i keep. Doing IT then i realized that
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 2: actually is, bothering HER so i stopped. Doing it and
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 2: then the next inning she goes and stands on the,
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 2: mound AGAIN and i could tell the coaches had no
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 2: backbone to, be, like no we want someone else to.
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 2: Do THIS so i, was, like hey go stand at third.
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 2: Base Instead and i'm not, a COACH but i, was,
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 2: like oh you go to, third BASE because i could
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 2: tell the coaches wanted to put someone else on. The
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 2: mound and she looked at me and she just. Ignored
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 2: me but she looked at me and made, eye, Contact
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 2: OKAY and i was like wait. A second and then
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 2: she told me after. The game she, was like do
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 2: you KNOW why i didn't listen?
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 3: TO you i? Said why, she said because you. EMBARRASSED
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 3: me i was, like? What?
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 2: Wow vindictive and this, WAS like i mean the other
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 2: team had already hit, in between or that they had
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 2: come back into hit. In between so like she was
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 2: thinking ABOUT how i had wronged her for at least
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 2: five or ten minutes and then decided that she was
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 2: gonna get back.
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 5: At me how do your coaches not have the stones
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 5: to tell.
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 3: Six year olds exactly to go play? Different?
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 9: Positions exactly do you mean times get asked her in
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 9: a game from my girls or the nine, and ten
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 9: LIKE can i? Play somewhere it's, like no, Quite short no.
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 9: You can't got, Play, third no got play in. The
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 9: infield we we're trying, To win LIKE that's i have
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 9: TWO lineups i have we're trying to win lineup, and
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 9: okay we're. Aheader behind we can't. Come, back okay you
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 9: can play this position LINEUP and i. It's six that, that's, Wild, dude.
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah it was crazy what you almost got ejected from. A.
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 9: Game Yeah so i've made this case for many years, about,
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 9: officiating right is that basically? Objective call? Subjective, calls right like,
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 9: ball strikes someone's out? Or safe like you're gonna mess this.
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 9: Up there there's, are, errors right, you know holding call
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 9: past interference like those are. Gonna happen Procedural problems and
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 9: we talked about for years with with, Packed officiating like
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 9: you can't have, procedural, problems right you can't like knock
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 9: at the, clock, Correct right you you can't like give
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 9: an extra, time out like. You can't you just can't
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 9: do the type of. Things right and this is a
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 9: procedural mistake that the. Umpire MADE and i just. Asked her,
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 9: i'm like why didn't you just do the thing you're supposed,
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 9: to do and, SHE'S like i Didn't, want basically WAS
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 9: like i didn't, want TO and i, was, like well
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 9: that's not really the, right answer AND then i turned
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 9: my back and. WALKED away I think i sent to
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 9: the video and she sort of like followed me up
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 9: the third base line to talk to.
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 5: Me, more yeah like that's not that's.
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 3: NOT appropriate i.
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 5: WAS done i was.
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 9: Done talking and then you see like waving your hand.
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 9: In me that was her telling, me like don't say. Another,
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 9: Word essentially, I'M like i didn't you came back.
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 3: TO me i was.
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 5: Done talking you followed me back up the.
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 2: THIRD baseline I wish i could share the video with
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 2: everyone because it's like someone who is half your and.
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 5: She's nice, markt's nice that's.
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 3: Her name.
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 9: She's not we have like the same four umpires for.
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 9: Years now marcus no Problem, with marker but she made
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 9: she made. It bad it was a bad she made
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 9: a bad call a procedural that the girl should. Have
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 9: been you get one base on a pitched ball that
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 9: is not put, in, Play right so a ball that
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 9: is just pitched a, pass ball you can steal whoever.
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 5: You want you at.
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 9: One base if you take a, second base it's at your.
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 9: Own peril but if you reach that. Base safe they
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 9: just called time and said you back to the base you. Were,
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 9: at okay our girls stole. Second base they threw the,
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 9: second base the ball got. By her she ran the thirdness,
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 9: TO instinctually, i said you can see him on. The
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 9: video tell her to stop and say it. A second
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 9: she doesn't. Do it she runs the. Third base the
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 9: umpire then let the. Play continue the second base was
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 9: holding the ball like as it. Play dead, she, goes
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 9: no we're we're playing. This live she then tags my
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 9: girl who's on, third base and she calls.
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 3: Her OUT so i. HAD to i had to say
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 3: up from. My, team, YEAH no. I understand.
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 2: I want to. NEXT time i want to see you.
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 2: Get ejected that would be much better material for.
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 3: The, internet YEAH but. I can't that's a that's. Pretty,
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 3: BAD yeah.
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 9: I can't i cannot get objected from a ten year.
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 9: Softball game. I'M sorry i could do a lot things.
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 9: In life that's one.
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 3: Of them, we're like that's a red flag. If that
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 3: we're getting.
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 5: So much, better too like we're.
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 9: Getting better we won three in a row now like
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 9: we're having a maybe four in. A row we're having
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 9: like a, good time like where the girls are, Getting
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 9: better like it's been a lot. Of FUN but i
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 9: can't get eject it from. The game that's. Out stopped cannot.
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 3: Do, That, fine well thanks for.
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 2: YOUR time i appreciate your perspective, as always and we'll see.
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 5: You soon you're coming to, my, birthday right that's.
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 3: The plan. LET'S go. I can't that's gonna be a lot.
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 3: OF fun i might have to.
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 2: Bring, my brother find my, younger brother my special, needs
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 2: BROTHER because i think my parents are he's staying with us.
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 2: That week but we have WE have i think we have.
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 2: Enough tickets that makes him A lot he makes it
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 2: a lot. More interesting but we'll we'll we'll chat offline.
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 5: About that we'll. BE fine, i think, all right, all
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 5: RIGHT but i talk to you later.
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 2: But Later jeff schwartz college FOOTBALL and, nfl insider former
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 2: draft pick himself but not a guy that was In
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 2: the lomu Or The spencer. Fano category he was in
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 2: kind of like, THE man I think i'm going to
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 2: be playing. PROFESSIONAL football i don't know what it what it.
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 2: Looks like and even after, being drafted when you're in those,
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 2: late rounds when you're a six or seventh round, draft
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 2: pick or you're an undrafted, free agent your your future
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 2: is far. From certain he ended up playing a decade in,
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 2: the league so obviously it all worked out and he
• 2:08:44
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• 2:08:45
  Speaker 3: Analyst stuff, AND that, i mean your life changes.
• 2:08:49
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• 2:08:53
  Speaker 2: if you are a seventh round, draft pick the direction
• 2:08:56
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• 2:08:58
  Speaker 2: determined by what happens. This week that is, a wild
• 2:09:02
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• 2:09:07
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• 2:09:19
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• 2:10:06
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• 2:10:11
  Speaker 2: like it's important to highlight these things because we got to.
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 3: Be honest this this.
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 2: Last season was really really difficult to maintain optimism through
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 2: with the way that, You Know, alex jensen the coach
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 2: that we, all wanted came in and had a bit
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 2: of an abbreviated and convoluted period where he didn't have a,
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 2: full staff he didn't have everything all the way in.
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 2: Place before you had to kind of lay the foundation for,
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 2: your roster and they tried to make lemonade At. A
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 2: lemons they tried to do what. They could and that's
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 2: not an insult any of the players on. The roster
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 2: it's just you're playing In the Big twelve, conference now
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 2: and your payroll was a tenth of what some of
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 2: the teams that you were playing, against was and things like,
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 2: that well there's been a re energized effort in this,
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 2: OFF season, i think a more sort of concerted or
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 2: at least coherent plan to put. Things together and you
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 2: got good news From the. European Scene, alec addingbata who
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 2: we talked about a little, bit earlier Playing for he's
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 2: played fifty seven career games for a Club called Ratio
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 2: fharm um With, In.
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 3: Munich germany He's, From.
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 2: Munich germany fifty to a, half points seven point, three
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 2: rebounds one point three assists in his, best year which
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 2: was actually the twenty four to twenty.
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 3: Five season He's represented.
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 2: Germany IN their u twenties and he's like a forty
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 2: plus percent three.
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 3: Point shooter he's also.
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 2: Six' eight and The THING that james i think correctly
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 2: pointed out earlier when we were talking about the way
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 2: that this roster has come together is now you've got
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 2: a bunch of guys in this sort of like six
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 2: foot to six' eight range of, the true big man
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 2: THE true like and i know they, don't grow on
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 2: trees but the six' ten plus guy is That in?
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 3: The offing for utah football is That on?
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 2: The radar for utah, football because if it's not it
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 2: changes the way you have to, play the game of
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 2: basketball especially when you, get down to tournament time and,
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 2: We hope sooner than later utah is. Part of that
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 2: Tournament conversation Being in the Big twelve conference means that,
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 2: Arizona's gonna have those guys, Houston's Gonna have those guys
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 2: texas tech is. PROBABLY gonna have those guys byu is
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 2: gonna do their best to feel those. Guys MORE years
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 2: than not and i think what We're seeing here is
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 2: actually utah acknowledging where they're at right now in the
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 2: sort of spectrum, of nil, money and saying all right we're.
• 2:12:54
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• 2:12:58
  Speaker 2: defense and, an effort type of team and hopefully a,
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 2: good three point shooting team which of course changes your
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 2: your stars if. You DON'T have the size As I
• 2:13:09
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• 2:13:13
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• 2:13:21
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  Speaker 3: Out there looking for it but, if you can't find
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• 2:13:29
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• 2:13:31
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  Speaker 2: have vegas's size tonight in, Game two of that series
• 2:13:38
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• 2:13:41
  Speaker 2: It's not impossible it's difficult it's sometimes requires. A little bit,
• 2:13:48
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  Speaker 2: they didn't have a, ton of like actual size right they,
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  Speaker 2: beat you on the perimeter and they continue to try
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 2: to do that.
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  Speaker 3: In a lot of cases.
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 2: There's really REALLY good teams in the nba right Now
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• 2:14:19
  Speaker 2: in the playoffs alec anigbata is the latest name for
• 2:14:25
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  Speaker 2: Uniform he's coming from germany the international flavor continues To
• 2:14:32
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• 2:14:35
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• 2:14:38
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• 2:14:44
  Speaker 3: Even in.
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 2: His career as A player this is where utah found. Some,
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 2: DIAMONDS in the rough also i can tell you That
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 2: The plan is for alex Jensen to, join us on
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 2: thursday's show so we'll ask him about the strategy will
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 2: have came, about some of these players will ask him
• 2:15:01
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• 2:15:04
  Speaker 2: coming together and they've done an incredible amount of work
• 2:15:08
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• 2:15:10
  Speaker 2: serious effort right they're they're they're pulling these players In
• 2:15:14
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• 2:15:16
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• 2:15:28
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• 2:19:33
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• 2:19:46
  Speaker 3: Of how angry he was seventh. Round, Picked two, THIRTY
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  Speaker 11: Drafted i, WANTED to choose he said i had some
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  Speaker 11: teams that were interested in signing that would have been
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  Speaker 11: a MUCH better, fit than where i went because there
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  Speaker 11: are are only better.
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 3: Fits, than where, he went sadly but.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah it's ALWAYS interested in considered because i think, just,
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  Speaker 11: having your name called right it would, Be such a
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 11: cool thing but for the betterment of, the rest of
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 11: your career you probably would have the option.
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 3: To choose where you go the other interesting thing now
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 3: is that.
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 2: If you are, if, you still have eligibility right it's
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 2: better to stay in college if you're, going, to be a, fifth,
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 2: sixth seventh round pick absolutely, because if you're in college
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 2: you're the. Best player on your team IF you, have
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 2: a realistic nfl opportunity and that means you're making minimum
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 2: several hundred thousand, dollars up into the millions depending on.
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 2: The position that you play and we talked. About This,
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 2: on the show Audie Crooks who Transferred From iowa state
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 2: to oklahoma state and is one of the top FEMALE,
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 2: basketball players in the ncaa would be THE third highest
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  Speaker 2: paid w nba player based On What, she's making from
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  Speaker 2: oklahoma state according to the reports that obviously.
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 3: Were leaked by her agents, so forty thousand dollars kidding
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  Speaker 2: FINISHED a new collective bargaining i was. Just thinking of
• 2:21:14
  Speaker 2: the family one point four million. Dollars college play college
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 2: basketball it's like like there was never it was never
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 2: that decision. To make in the, past it was always
• 2:21:27
  Speaker 2: like do you? Want TO get your degree and i
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 2: remember being like young, and an idealists and saying always
• 2:21:35
  Speaker 2: stay in. College and GET the degree and then i
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 2: remember becoming, an, adult and realizing like oh money is what.
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 3: Makes the world go around go. Make it WHILE you.
• 2:21:44
  Speaker 2: Can and then, i, also remember being like wait you
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 2: could just go back to school during the summer, and
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 2: get the. Degree anyway it doesn't, matter so in the
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 2: past IT was just that do i want TO get
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 2: My degree BECAUSE i, promised grandma THAT i would or
• 2:21:59
  Speaker 2: do i want to go MAKE money? As soon as i, can,
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 2: and now it's like well where are you? Going to
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 2: make more money because to be the big fish in a,
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 2: small pond, in a case you Know If you're at
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 2: like virginia tech or something and you're one, of the
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 2: top players. There that's a better situation and it's insane
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 2: to say it's a better situation than being a PROFESSIONAL.
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 2: Football player in the nfl if you're not going to,
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 2: be the first, round guys second round, guys even third round.
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 3: Guys it's a different, Calculus BUT to be that am
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 3: I a fourth?
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 2: Rounder because I should go But if i'm not, AND
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 2: i'm a sixth rounder i.
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 3: Should probably. Stay, In school it's wild.
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 11: Yeah and take advantage of, Every loophole at YOUR disposal
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 11: like until the ncaa, comes up with this whole whether
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 11: it's a. Five year window or whatever stay if you,
• 2:22:46
  Speaker 11: can stay seven eight, years stay seven eight years because
• 2:22:49
  Speaker 11: you know what's not waiting for you is a job
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 11: out of college that's going to pay, you a couple
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 11: million bucks.
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 5: Especially.
• 2:22:56
  Speaker 3: With your sociology degree.
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 11: Exactly you're probably going to be an, assistant gmtshield or
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 11: you know you're, going to work, at enterprise rent a
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 11: car or you're going to go back. And coach your
• 2:23:04
  Speaker 11: high school and none of. Those jobs pay a, ton
• 2:23:07
  Speaker 11: so maximize your. Window maximize, Your earning potential and look
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 11: i'm not saying. You're, wrong about the degree, okay there's
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 11: something about that certainly with a lot of these players
• 2:23:18
  Speaker 11: who talk about potentially being the first person in their.
• 2:23:20
  Speaker 3: Family to get a degree, but.
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 11: What's, what's more important you, know patting your bank account,
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 11: making sure you're financially stable or getting a piece of,
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 11: paper from an institution, that for the most part isn't
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 11: necessarily serious about wanting to send you on your way.
• 2:23:36
  Speaker 11: To prepare you to succeed let's get into the let's get.
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 11: In the collegiate model today sho you want to.
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 2: Get, Into academia as. A business let's, do it let's do. It, Let's,
• 2:23:45
  Speaker 2: DIG into it okay look. I was, at a dinner
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 2: you know we're, all old now with kids so we
• 2:23:53
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• 2:23:53
  Speaker 11: Together maybe once a, year my friend's from, college and
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 11: there's you know fourteen fifteen of us none of us
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  Speaker 11: work in the field which we study for in School,
• 2:24:03
  Speaker 11: literally oh for fifteen okay so you kind of just
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 11: sold this, lie as you're, growing, up where it's, like okay.
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 3: Do the thing take on the. Debt if.
• 2:24:14
  Speaker 11: YOU have to in college i have friends who are
• 2:24:16
  Speaker 11: doctors and dentists and lawyers in their late fifties that still.
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 3: Owe a. Grip of money so.
• 2:24:24
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• 2:24:26
  Speaker 11: to do, that have done the thing, that have paid
• 2:24:28
  Speaker 11: it off, try to pay it off but there's still
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 11: ten twenty thirty thousand to haars and debt and they've
• 2:24:33
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• 2:24:34
  Speaker 3: Endeavor for like. Two decades it's So wild my favorite part.
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 3: My brother is, a professor, he's an.
• 2:24:40
  Speaker 11: Academic, the, smart pretentious one yeah yes your, words tell
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 11: mine he's awesome but.
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 3: Also. A little bit pretentious yeah.
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 5: So the.
• 2:24:51
  Speaker 2: The sort of like the education that just begets an
• 2:24:54
  Speaker 2: opportunity to then be part of the education system where
• 2:24:58
  Speaker 2: you go to school and you get your and then
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 2: you get your doctorate and you're in a field where
• 2:25:03
  Speaker 2: literally the only job for you to be a doctor
• 2:25:05
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• 2:25:10
  Speaker 2: like okay. The system just perpetuates itself like when, you
• 2:25:15
  Speaker 2: go to medical school you want to be, a doctor
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 2: to you know cure diseases and perhaps long term like
• 2:25:21
  Speaker 2: go into medical research.
• 2:25:22
  Speaker 3: And maybe you. Find.
• 2:25:23
  Speaker 2: The cure to cancer whatever there's plenty of fields where
• 2:25:26
  Speaker 2: it's just. Like and football, is this by the way if,
• 2:25:29
  Speaker 2: you make football your life the thing you are most
• 2:25:32
  Speaker 2: qualified to do is to.
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 3: Teach football to other people and.
• 2:25:36
  Speaker 2: The same, thing with basketball to say it's it's really
• 2:25:39
  Speaker 2: funny that we're in this like sports world where if,
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 2: you can't be the pro. You can be the coach
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 2: and then that's even if you do, go through the
• 2:25:48
  Speaker 2: pro thing then you're going to come. Back and be
• 2:25:50
  Speaker 2: a coach and it's like you're so hyper specialized because
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 2: your football education in most cases is.
• 2:25:56
  Speaker 3: Not, good for anything.
• 2:25:57
  Speaker 11: Else yeah or you can grab on to the final
• 2:26:00
  Speaker 11: ranch before he hit the ground and talk.
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 3: Into, a microphone about it yes you.
• 2:26:03
  Speaker 11: Know you're, in that ecosystem and Look There are exceptions
• 2:26:06
  Speaker 11: like mike tomlin's gonna. Be an analyst this. Year he's
• 2:26:08
  Speaker 11: gonna be AWESOME he'll, be great at, tv because.
• 2:26:10
  Speaker 2: By the way he doesn't need to because he's been
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 2: making twenty million dollars, for the.
• 2:26:14
  Speaker 3: LAST ten years.
• 2:26:15
  Speaker 11: Right right i do believe coaches make, the, best, analysts
• 2:26:19
  Speaker 11: in football, basketball baseball whatever, it is because ex.
• 2:26:23
  Speaker 3: Players not all of.
• 2:26:25
  Speaker 11: THEM this is NOT fair a lot of x players
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 11: don't really know what it's like to work super hard,
• 2:26:32
  Speaker 11: at something outside of playing and so many of them
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 11: naturally gifted or built a different, way because you know this.
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 11: Like you've done, This job over the years i've worked
• 2:26:42
  Speaker 11: with so many ex players who just feel like they
• 2:26:45
  Speaker 11: can ROLL in and do, the tv or radio thing
• 2:26:49
  Speaker 11: and the ones that decide to put in some work
• 2:26:51
  Speaker 11: at it end. Up being good at it but the
• 2:26:53
  Speaker 11: ones that think they can just show up because they're
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 11: used to being awesome at their craft.
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 3: Never end up being.
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 11: Awesome but coaches are workers coaches are workers in, a
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 11: way that players aren't and THAT'S one of the reasons
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 11: x great players most of.
• 2:27:07
  Speaker 3: Them. Didn't, make great coaches right.
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 2: Well that's the funniest thing IS when you get these
• 2:27:12
  Speaker 2: x great, players and, they're, run, Faster jump higher like
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 2: no i'm not. Physically, capable of doing that, yeah teach me, something, else,
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 2: and they're LIKE oh yeah that's why.
• 2:27:23
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• 2:27:26
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• 2:27:28
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• 2:27:30
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• 2:27:36
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• 2:27:39
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• 2:27:42
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• 2:27:43
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• 2:27:45
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• 2:27:49
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• 2:27:49
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• 2:28:02
  Speaker 3: Getting, himself into, that, experience man it's. Like, hey let's
• 2:28:05
  Speaker 3: talk basketball no Let's.
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  Speaker 11: Talk, Gun, rights in america like, carl, turn the mic
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  Speaker 11: off dude.
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  Speaker 3: You're here, to top.
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  Speaker 11: Basketball oh man good, poll that is a callback, As,
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  Speaker 11: THE kids WOULD say Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think i think carl loom still has the radio
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  Speaker 2: equipment that he was sent oh in order. To, do
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  Speaker 2: the radio show absolutely he does never Put it back
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  Speaker 2: in the pelican Case. AND sent It On, no i
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  Speaker 2: told john KIMBALL because that was. After i left the
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  Speaker 2: station left the station went over, the, jazz and they're
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  Speaker 2: like Okay we're. Gonna bring, in carmel, on i'm like
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  Speaker 2: all right, well that sucks for me but. It's not
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  Speaker 2: going to work, and just so you know once, you
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  Speaker 2: send that radio equipment there is no way in hell you.
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  Speaker 3: ARE ever seeing it again i can promise.
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  Speaker 11: You that there's no way carl Like drove, down to
• 2:28:49
  Speaker 11: the FedEx shop packaged it up.
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  Speaker 3: Neatly and. SENT it back no chance i love.
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  Speaker 2: It for the drive, gun there by the Way correct answer,
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  Speaker 2: and give you a family four pack if you were
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  Speaker 2: the first one.
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  Speaker 3: To get the Correct answer we'll do the.
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  Speaker 2: Sean O'Connell show again TOMORROW thanks for listening to ESPN
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