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The Late Debate | 18 June · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Leensander General manner. Welcome to the late Debains.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the program. I'm Caleb Bond
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  Speaker 2: with Listorer and kel richards Well. Could by claims contravene
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  Speaker 2: human rights? One group of people in Sydney think so,
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  Speaker 2: and they're taking it all the way to the Human
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  Speaker 2: Rights Commission. More strength to their arm, I say, when
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  Speaker 2: we get into the papers, Alan Joyce's sixteen million dollar
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  Speaker 2: payout from Quantus could be in a bit of trouble.
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  Speaker 2: And does social media need cigarette style warnings. We'll talk
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  Speaker 2: about that a little bit later, but first in Victoria
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  Speaker 2: today a new bill hit the Parliament to increase the
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  Speaker 2: age of criminal responsibility. Currently it's ten years old and
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  Speaker 2: they want to make at twelve. And you might ask
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  Speaker 2: the question, well why is this. If you go through
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  Speaker 2: the numbers the increases in youth crime in Victoria, it
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  Speaker 2: becomes very clear, very quickly. Crime for those fourteen to
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  Speaker 2: seventeen year olds went up thirty percent last year, ten
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  Speaker 2: to thirteen went up twenty two and a half percent,
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  Speaker 2: but staggeringly for ten and eleven year olds it went
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  Speaker 2: up by sixty five percent. So the Victorian government thought, goodness, gracious, me.
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  Speaker 2: We've got all this crime happening with ten and eleven
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  Speaker 2: year olds. What can we do about it? I know
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  Speaker 2: will make it impossible for ten and eleven year olds
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  Speaker 2: to commit crimes, and therefore we'll have a one hundred
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  Speaker 2: percent reduction in the youth crime rate. What a marvelous brainway,
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  Speaker 2: who would have thought of that one? Here's the Attorney General,
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  Speaker 2: Jacqueline Simes crowing about this today and how great it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be for Victorian kids.
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  Speaker 1: If we want this to work.
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  Speaker 3: We're proud of this legislation. We want to make sure
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  Speaker 3: it gets through the Parliament. We're giving an ample opportunity
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  Speaker 3: for people to have their say in relation to that.
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  Speaker 3: But it will take potentially some time ver and I
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  Speaker 3: bringing our toothbrushes when it's going to be in committee,
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  Speaker 3: because there'll be lots of questions that we'll have to deal.
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  Speaker 2: Premier Decina Allen also said that it would reduce youth
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  Speaker 2: crime and yes, I guess that is correct. When you
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  Speaker 2: can't charge children with crimes, they're not technically committing crimes,
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  Speaker 2: are they, His opposition leader John Pursuito, hitting back, we'll.
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  Speaker 4: Certainly look at the proposal from ten to twelve. But
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  Speaker 4: our position has always been clear on twelve to fourteen
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  Speaker 4: that it is too problematic and we're not going to
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  Speaker 4: see the ethic of responsibility and the ethic of accountability
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  Speaker 4: watered down to the point where the government's approach to
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  Speaker 4: dealing with violent crime is to pretend it's not happening.
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  Speaker 2: It's expected this will come into law early next year,
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  Speaker 2: early twenty twenty five, and one of the other effects
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  Speaker 2: of it is that they will change the presumption of
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  Speaker 2: whether you're capable of committing a crime between the ages
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  Speaker 2: of ten and fourteen years. So the presumption now, Liz,
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  Speaker 2: will be that if you are ten to eleven, twelve,
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  Speaker 2: thirteen or fourteen, it is presumed that you don't have
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  Speaker 2: the capability to commit a crime, so the court will
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  Speaker 2: have to prove that you understand what you are doing
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  Speaker 2: is a crime. They increase the age of criminal responsibility
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  Speaker 2: to twelve, so eventually you won't have to face any
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  Speaker 2: charges whatsoever, and their ultimate dat is to get it
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  Speaker 2: all the way up to fourteen, so anyone under the
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  Speaker 2: age of fourteen will literally not be able to commit
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  Speaker 2: a crime.
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  Speaker 5: Staggering, staggering, So we're raising the age of criminality at
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  Speaker 5: a time when serious offenders are getting younger and younger,
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  Speaker 5: we're not addressing those underlying issues, and then the natural
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  Speaker 5: outcome is that the community is more worried than ever
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  Speaker 5: because they know they're at the mercy of these juveniles
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  Speaker 5: who won't be punished properly. So why would these kids
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  Speaker 5: then not continue to do what they're doing or indeed
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  Speaker 5: become first offenders. What really got me about this was
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  Speaker 5: the I think this is Latin, so I'm going to
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  Speaker 5: butcher it, but the Dolly incapats principle will be written
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  Speaker 5: into legislation, and that is that the presumption that a
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  Speaker 5: child aged ten to fourteen is incapable of criminal intent.
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  Speaker 6: Now we know that that is nonsense.
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  Speaker 5: And every time this comes up, I just remember that terrible,
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  Speaker 5: very famous case of nineteen ninety three where we had
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  Speaker 5: two ten year olds in the UK.
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  Speaker 6: Murder a two year old.
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  Speaker 5: They abducted him, they tortured him, and they murdered him.
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  Speaker 6: His name was James Bulger.
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  Speaker 5: And these two ten year olds, it was shown in court,
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  Speaker 5: they knew exactly what they were doing.
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  Speaker 6: They knew that it was wrong. They did it anyway.
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  Speaker 5: There is just no basis for an argument that kids
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  Speaker 5: engaging in serious criminal activity were, Oh, we weren't aware
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  Speaker 5: that this was criminal activity, or we weren't.
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  Speaker 6: Aware that we should do it. We know that the
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  Speaker 6: Act did this.
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  Speaker 5: Last year they bumped up the age of criminal responsibility
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  Speaker 5: to twelve, and in the next two years they intend to.
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  Speaker 6: Make that fourteen.
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  Speaker 5: It seems kell Act is often the first domino to
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  Speaker 5: fall when it comes to terrible ideas.
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  Speaker 7: Like the first domino to get it wrong. Let me
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  Speaker 7: thrown a little fact to it. I did a big
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  Speaker 7: research thing in all the psychology sites that I could
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  Speaker 7: find in psychiatry sites, and there's a very wide agreement
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  Speaker 7: that children know right from wrong from the age of seven.
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  Speaker 7: So everything you're saying is absolutely right. There are four
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  Speaker 7: points that they announced, CA we bring those up on
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  Speaker 7: the screen. There are four points that they said are
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  Speaker 7: going to be the part of the keys to this legislation.
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  Speaker 7: Electronic monitoring was one of them, raising the age electronic monitoring,
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  Speaker 7: legislating warnings and cautions.
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  Speaker 1: Parole boards will alert victims of.
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  Speaker 7: Things that are changing, and they're also lowering the age
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  Speaker 7: which people can be charged with enticing kids commit crime.
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  Speaker 7: But look at the third one. There legislated cautions. That's
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  Speaker 7: the problem. That's what went wrong in Queensland. Because Anastasia
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  Speaker 7: Palichet said they shouldn't be in the criminal system, do
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  Speaker 7: not consider putting them in jail, and don't lock them up,
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  Speaker 7: just give them a caution. They legislated for that, and
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  Speaker 7: the kids very quickly worked out what was going on.
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  Speaker 1: So that's right.
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  Speaker 7: They committed a crime, they happily went to court, they
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  Speaker 7: got a caution, they didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Have any conviction recorded, and they went out and committed
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  Speaker 1: another crime.
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  Speaker 7: So so you do sound I've got to say for
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  Speaker 7: a young man, like a middle aged cynic, sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: You're right, ag.
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  Speaker 6: Agent.
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  Speaker 1: So it is happening.
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  Speaker 7: It's happening for the statistical reasons you talked about. But
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  Speaker 7: more crime will happen on the streets, is the whole point.
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  Speaker 7: Jasenda Allen said today, and I think I can quote
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  Speaker 7: the ipsum of Erber. She said, kids should not be
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  Speaker 7: in the criminal justice system. Yes they should. It's the
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  Speaker 7: only way to get them off the street. Stop them
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  Speaker 7: stealing cars. The cars will still be stolen, they just
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  Speaker 7: won't be counted exactly.
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  Speaker 2: So you youth crime plummets because we just don't record it. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't exist as far as we're concerned, and they
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  Speaker 2: took today. You know, the police will still have the
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  Speaker 2: ability to round the kids up and take them to
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  Speaker 2: the cop shop if we can't get hold of their parents.
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  Speaker 2: But once they get them to the cop shop, they
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  Speaker 2: can't do anything with them. They just call up social
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  Speaker 2: services and ask them to come and take the kid away.
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  Speaker 2: And the only force they can use to grab a
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  Speaker 2: ten or eleven year old under these laws is to
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  Speaker 2: just grab their arm and hope they come with them.
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  Speaker 2: So the police will be powerless to do anything about
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  Speaker 2: a ten or eleven year old, essentially the group where
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  Speaker 2: crime went up by sixty five percent. Now I understand
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  Speaker 2: that that means there are probably problems at home, and
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  Speaker 2: there are problems at school, and they are serious and
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  Speaker 2: they need to be dealt with. But you can't tell
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  Speaker 2: me that simply raising the age of criminal responsibility actually
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  Speaker 2: helps these kids.
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  Speaker 5: No, it's about fudging the numbers. And there was signs
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  Speaker 5: saying we really want this to work. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 5: it hasn't worked anywhere else, but because we really want
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  Speaker 5: it to work, I'm sure at will. No one can
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  Speaker 5: give us any factual evidence that this is in any
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  Speaker 5: way effective. All it does is fudge the numbers and
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  Speaker 5: teach these kids like you say, Hell, I.
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  Speaker 6: Go to court, I got a slap on the wrist.
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  Speaker 2: I've got a caution.
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  Speaker 5: Can can we wonder why the rates of recidivism are
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  Speaker 5: so high?
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  Speaker 1: But we have a model.
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  Speaker 7: We have a model because this is almost exactly what
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  Speaker 7: Queensland tried. So it's almost as though they sat there
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  Speaker 7: in the cabinet room said, is there a system for
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  Speaker 7: dealing with the kids in the in law that will
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  Speaker 7: not work and be absolutely terrible?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 7: Yes, Queensland made a mess of it. We will follow
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  Speaker 7: their patterns. What a good idea that is.
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  Speaker 2: Victoria is very good at just taking things and making
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  Speaker 2: them worse, aren't they know? The comonwealth game.
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  Speaker 6: They're very consistent on.
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  Speaker 2: And on it goes. Speaking of which, if you are
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  Speaker 2: a child at school, you probably shouldn't be watching it
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  Speaker 2: this hour, Go to bed, little Johnny. But if your
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  Speaker 2: parents you start and watch the Late Bake, you can
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  Speaker 2: probably get a little bit. And if you were at school,
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  Speaker 2: because we learned today that again in Victoria, the rules
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  Speaker 2: that have been put in place, they're now compulsory for
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  Speaker 2: the teaching of children in early education in Victoria spell
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  Speaker 2: out exactly what they need to be told about diversity, equity, inclusion, etc.
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  Speaker 2: And they've got to be taught about Aboriginal Torres Strait
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  Speaker 2: Islander people. Now, can you believe it? In the document
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  Speaker 2: that sets all of this out DEI, Diversity, equity and
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  Speaker 2: inclusion is mentioned one hundred and forty nine times, one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and forty nine times, Aboriginal Torres Strait Islander and
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  Speaker 2: reconciliation matters are mentioned ninety six times. How many times
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  Speaker 2: do you reckon? The document mentions the words mother, father
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  Speaker 2: or parent? Zero, big fat zero? Would you believe it?
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  Speaker 2: The IPA did some work into this document and uncopitab Listen,
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  Speaker 2: Thank god they've done it, because if it weren't for them,
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  Speaker 2: we wouldn't know about. It's doctor Belladiabrera over at the IPA.
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  Speaker 2: So these centers should be where children playing sand pits,
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  Speaker 2: draw with crayons and have afternoon naps, not be inducted
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  Speaker 2: into the cults of social justice, identity, politics and sustainability
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  Speaker 2: by activist educators. Parents should be very concerned that the
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  Speaker 2: Australian government supports young children that being support sorry, young
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  Speaker 2: children being exposed to very adult themes such as gender, sexuality, race, culture,
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  Speaker 2: and the environment, years before it's appropriate. The education system
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  Speaker 2: is shifted away from the acquisition of knowledge towards activism
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  Speaker 2: and social justice. Results have continued to slide compared to
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  Speaker 2: other nations. And I think we've known for some time
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  Speaker 2: that this is coming. But Kel, we're talking about early learners.
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  Speaker 2: Were talking a three four year old. No, they don't
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  Speaker 2: talk once about mum or dad. We got to talk
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  Speaker 2: about the environment and diversity in.
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  Speaker 1: It and drag coeens and whatever else they bring.
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  Speaker 7: Listen, I speak with the authority of a grandpa who's
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  Speaker 7: got a little four year old, little six year old
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  Speaker 7: toddlers and they're now in big school.
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  Speaker 1: That's exciting.
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  Speaker 7: But they've just come through this preschool area and end
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  Speaker 7: of the preschool area. They have nursery rhymes and fairy tales,
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  Speaker 7: and they build things with the big lego blocks, that's
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  Speaker 7: what it's all about. And they play hide and seek
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  Speaker 7: with Grandpa. They're little kids. They've got to be treated
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  Speaker 7: like little kids. Now, the people who drew this up,
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  Speaker 7: it's very clear what's happening here. They know that what
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  Speaker 7: they're teaching is highly disputed. They know there's a lot
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  Speaker 7: of the community that would not approve. A lot of
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  Speaker 7: parents would not approve. They don't care. It shows absolute
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  Speaker 7: contempt for parents. It's very arrogant thing to do, and
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  Speaker 7: you've got to say why do they do it? And
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  Speaker 7: someone explained to me once here's how it works.
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  Speaker 2: Kill.
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  Speaker 7: People on the political right think the left or wrong.
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  Speaker 7: People on the political left think the right are evil.
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  Speaker 7: So if you're conservative, they think you're evil and you
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  Speaker 7: have to be subverted. So they have to take your
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  Speaker 7: children and grandchildren away from you because you are so evil,
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  Speaker 7: they've got to stop your influence.
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  Speaker 1: That's the kind of.
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  Speaker 7: Arrogance that is behind what's going on here. It's not
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  Speaker 7: only educationally stupid. To teach these things to two and
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  Speaker 7: three and four year olds educationally absolutely idiotic.
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  Speaker 1: It's indefensible.
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  Speaker 7: I'd call them halfwits, but that would be massively overestimating them.
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  Speaker 7: They're more like quarterwits something like that, possibly one eighth.
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  Speaker 7: So it's a stupid thing to do educationally, but they
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  Speaker 7: are doing it deliberately and consciously because they really despise
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  Speaker 7: everyone who doesn't agree with them.
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  Speaker 5: Correct, and the raisure of parents, the very mention of
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  Speaker 5: mother and father from this curriculum just underlines everything I've
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  Speaker 5: always said about this.
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  Speaker 6: Parents.
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  Speaker 5: The state wants your job, and it's not asking for permission.
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  Speaker 5: The state itself cannot have children. It takes yours. It
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  Speaker 5: was Lenin who said, give us a child for a
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  Speaker 5: years and he will be a Bolshevik forever.
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  Speaker 6: It was Hitler who.
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  Speaker 5: Said, he alone, who owns the youth, gains the future.
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  Speaker 5: And it was Marx who said, as soon as a
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  Speaker 5: child does not need the care of his mother anymore,
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  Speaker 5: he should be educated in state institutions only.
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  Speaker 6: This is how Marxist worked. Slowly, slowly.
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  Speaker 5: You think you're sending your kid off for some education.
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  Speaker 5: That's what we all send our kids to pre Kindy,
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  Speaker 5: to learn motor skills, to learn how to associate with
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  Speaker 5: other kids and get along nicely. No, no, the state
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  Speaker 5: has a very different plan for your child's education.
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  Speaker 6: And we've seen this going on four years.
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  Speaker 5: You may remember this incident back in twenty twenty two
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  Speaker 5: where a dad had gone to pick up his two
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  Speaker 5: year old, sorry five year old from Kindi and found
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  Speaker 5: the place plasted with all sorts of lgbtiq. I remember
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  Speaker 5: him specifically talking about the pen sexual stuff. What is
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  Speaker 5: a five year old got to do learning about pen
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  Speaker 5: sexual for crying out loud, and he took great issue
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  Speaker 5: with this, told the kindie that he was very unimpressed.
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  Speaker 5: They called the cops on this guy for simply trying
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  Speaker 5: to protect his five year old from this rabid kind
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  Speaker 5: of indoctrination.
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  Speaker 6: My mama always said she always.
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  Speaker 5: Referred to state schools as cesspools, even when I was
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  Speaker 5: too young to even know what a cesspool was, and
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  Speaker 5: her saying was always you've got a brainwashing before somebody
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  Speaker 5: else does, because kids are sponges, and so whoever teaches
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  Speaker 5: them first teaches them best.
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  Speaker 7: But I only know what they're told. They only know
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  Speaker 7: what they're told at that age. You tell them the
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  Speaker 7: wrong thing.
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  Speaker 1: That's what they know.
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  Speaker 7: They say that really can definitely, at the age of three,
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  Speaker 7: the only thing that should matter in their life his
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  Speaker 7: toilet training. Nothing else should be important for them. You
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  Speaker 7: know the huge triumph when they call out from the bathroom.
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  Speaker 7: You have to go and see the pooh they did,
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  Speaker 7: because it's a shavement. It is it exactly is that's
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  Speaker 7: what matters for little lives. This is destroying little lives,
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  Speaker 7: and it's destroying little lives. For really evil reasons. Jordan
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  Speaker 7: Peterson published online an image that he found in a
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  Speaker 7: preschool about having drag queens come and read to them
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  Speaker 7: and all the different things that were happening there Dune
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  Speaker 7: his Pride month.
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  Speaker 1: You can't read it. The printer is feeling small.
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  Speaker 7: But it's about you know about drag queens and are
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  Speaker 7: there any drag kings? And in what way are people
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  Speaker 7: in drag different from you little children. I mean, there
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  Speaker 7: are a whole lot of adults who couldn't care less,
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  Speaker 7: who don't want to know. But if adults want to
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  Speaker 7: find out about drag queens and that communey, that's fine,
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  Speaker 7: they're adults. But to foist something as marginal in society
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  Speaker 7: and as unusual in society as that on tiny little
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  Speaker 7: kids who will only be confused by it, that's wrong exactly.
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  Speaker 2: And it's happening all over the Western world. Run. It's
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  Speaker 2: in Australia, it's in the US, it's in the UK.
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  Speaker 5: And of course, which is why I am so suspicious
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  Speaker 5: of the Albanesy government and the labor state governments all
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  Speaker 5: pushing universal daycare.
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  Speaker 6: So number one, mum, hand your.
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  Speaker 5: Kids over to us, that we the state will raise them,
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  Speaker 5: you get back to work, earning us more glorious tax dollars.
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  Speaker 5: We don't care about anything else. And these kids go
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  Speaker 5: into daycare younger and younger. Nowadays, the state knows exactly
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  Speaker 5: what it's doing, being like, oh, look, how generous we are,
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  Speaker 5: universal daycare for all. No, No, I think it's a
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  Speaker 5: far more sinister thing that's at play here.
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  Speaker 1: I think you're right.
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  Speaker 7: If it were not the case, instead of subsidizing the
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  Speaker 7: childcare centers, they'd say, here's the subsidy, We'll pay it
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  Speaker 7: to the parents and either mom can stay at home
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  Speaker 7: if he wants to, or dad could start at home
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  Speaker 7: all they could send them off to a child center,
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  Speaker 7: give them the money, they look after their kids. They
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  Speaker 7: make the decisions. The fact that no government will do
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  Speaker 7: that makes me suspected what you're saying is a absolutely right.
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  Speaker 2: Correct and I've advocated for that for a long time,
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  Speaker 2: and just on the fact that it's happening around world.
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  Speaker 2: Have listened to Nigel Fards talking about exactly this in
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  Speaker 2: the UK.
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  Speaker 8: I am just so sick to death of our youngsters
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  Speaker 8: being told that we are a uniquely bad country because
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  Speaker 8: we pursue slavery, as were the only country in.
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  Speaker 1: History it was bad, right, that it was bad, yes,
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  Speaker 1: and every.
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  Speaker 8: Other European country, and it's still happening in many parts
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  Speaker 8: of the world today. But why not teach them as
• 17:43
  Speaker 8: well that we spent forty years with the Royal Naval
• 17:45
  Speaker 8: Squadron driving slavery off the high seas, and that the
• 17:49
  Speaker 8: British government spent more money stopping slavery than it ever
• 17:52
  Speaker 8: owned from it. Make sure kids get a sense of balance.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Yes, but of course we told them the truth lives.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: You know, they wouldn't be good little socialist work of these.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: Indeed, and that is the point of the state school
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: system to be good little cogs in the will.
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: To Pizer now, because it looks.
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: Like judgment day is drawing at nigh, with the State
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: of Kansas taking them to court saying that their marketing
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: was misleading. He is the Kansas Governor explaining some of
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: the reasons why he's taking this drastic action.
• 18:30
  Speaker 9: Pfiser marketed its vaccine as safe for pregnant women. However,
• 18:34
  Speaker 9: in February of twenty twenty one, Pfizer possessed reports for
• 18:38
  Speaker 9: four hundred and fifty eight pregnant women who received Pfizer's
• 18:41
  Speaker 9: COVID nineteen vaccine during pregnancy. More than half of the
• 18:45
  Speaker 9: pregnant women reported an adverse event, and more than ten
• 18:49
  Speaker 9: percent reported a miscarriage, many within days of the vaccination.
• 18:54
  Speaker 9: Pfizer also possessed information from its own October twenty twenty
• 18:58
  Speaker 9: study on pre agency in rats indicating that it's COVID
• 19:02
  Speaker 9: nineteen vaccine was likely linked to infertility, loss of litters
• 19:06
  Speaker 9: and still born offspring.
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: So this is serious.
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: What is alleging is Phis New Phis, a New all
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: along in their own trials that this was going to
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: be problematic for pregnant women. He goes on to talk
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: about pericarditis, myocarditis, different heart issues linked to the Phiza vaccine.
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: This is going to be a very very interesting court case.
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: I know that I cannot wait for the discovery period
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: and what will come out in that period.
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: Piso has not wanted to give up details.
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: You may remember, I think it was the Supreme Court
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: in the end who told them, no, no, you have
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: to hand over your findings and your research what went
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: into making this vaccine, and they gave it up very unwillingly.
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: But this is what the turn General I called him,
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: the governor is the Attorney General is one of five
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: states bringing these kinds of actions. Now it's really gaining
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: traction in the US as more and more side effects
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: have become just pretty darn off.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Yet Texas, Texas is one of them as well. And
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: in both cases, Texas and this case has of course
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: claimed that there's nothing to see here, don't worrys, no
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: merit whatsoever. But but you know, there is mounting evidence
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: that we've talked about quite a bit on this program.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: The recent study by a bunch of Dutch scientists twister
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: there investigating whether or not there could be a link
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: between excess mortality in vaccines and saying that that is
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: worthy of investigation.
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: Excess mortality that again we've seen has gone Western world.
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: This study did not get enough media except the one
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: place of deaven countries in their data.
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: Sweden, the country which did not go mad over over
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: COVID vaccines and all the mad COVID rules, has a
• 21:02
  Speaker 7: lower excess mortality rate than the rest of us. We
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: all got it wrong because there was this mad rush
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: to push these out and force them on and let's
• 21:11
  Speaker 7: broaden it, that's not just fireza Astraseneka withdrew their COVID vaccine.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: And now flay.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: We took it off the shelf last year and then
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: our astrosenica woke up and took it off the shelf
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: worldwide earlier this year.
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: In America, there is still a class action fifty one
• 21:26
  Speaker 7: people claiming ill effects from it, twelve of them saying
• 21:29
  Speaker 7: a relative died because of it.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: So what was happening with this sort of mad, mad rush,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: this mad panic and.
• 21:36
  Speaker 7: We must get this out there and get this into
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: everyone's arms is really really strange when we look back
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: at it now, there is not a apart from Sweden,
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: which I mentioned, there's not a government in the world
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: that got this right. There's no health authority in the
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: world that was careful enough to protect people. It's their job.
• 21:53
  Speaker 7: It's their job, that's what they're supposed to do.
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And in fact, last week in America, the Ninth
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: Circuit Court action ruled that because this was an mRNA vaccine,
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: it's not a vaccine.
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: So very very interesting.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: This thing just seems to be unraveling at a rate
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: of knots now. And I for one, am just so
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: happy to get a big bowl of popcorn and hope.
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: Justice because most people took this under Duriss.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Most people took this under Duriss.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: Indeed, that was the point of the mandate, and in fact,
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: transmission is something else. The Attorney General went into in
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: this brilliant speech he gave saying, well, FIZES actually admitted
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: they didn't even test for transmission. That wasn't the purpose
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: of the vaccine to begin with. And yet and that's
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: why he's getting them on this misleading marketing case because
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: he's like, you guys led us to believe that this
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: did something that it doesn't do, and unfortunately appears to
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: do that which you said it never would.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: And that's how we were black mild.
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: You don't want to pass this on to grandma, do you,
• 22:59
  Speaker 7: because over eighty grandma will die, And you think, oh, okay,
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: if it's going to stop transmission, i'd better have it.
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: But a lot of people, but my wife and I
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: got a couple of shots. But then we started reading
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: the very early information coming out about this, and we thought,
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: ah ah, there's something about this that's strange.
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: The m R in the r.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: mRNA, thank you, they're here to help.
• 23:25
  Speaker 8: The here to help.
• 23:27
  Speaker 7: But it was a brand new type of vaccina, a
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: brand new type of process it's actually.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Involving the human genome.
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: I think this has got years to run because if
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: it's if it's doing what it claims to do, which
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: is having an effect on the human genome.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Affects my turn up years from now. We've got no
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know what, no idea, how bad this is
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: going to get?
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: No idea and this could have years and years to run.
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: Can I just give a nod to Rebecca Wisser, one
• 23:52
  Speaker 7: of my colleagues. She currently edits Quadron. She's written a
• 23:55
  Speaker 7: lot of articles over the last two or three years
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: for the Spectator magazine blowing the wish a on this,
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: but mainstream media nothing.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: And it's good to see that it is starting to
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: come to the fore now. Good to see a government
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: like Kansas actually going and asking the questions that the
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: rest of us want answered. One of the other things
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: that the Attorney General of Kansas went into was the
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: alleged suppression of information that was being given to people,
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: particularly through social media.
• 24:24
  Speaker 9: After making these misleading statements, Pfizer also engaged in some
• 24:30
  Speaker 9: censorship attempts. Emails revealed that Pfiser officials coordinated with social
• 24:34
  Speaker 9: media platforms to censor any speech critical of Pfizer's COVID
• 24:38
  Speaker 9: nineteen vaccine safety and effectiveness.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: As Liz said, grab the popcorn. And of course, the
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: federal government and the TGA still advised that your best
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: defense against COVID is the vaccine. Well, let's go to
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: my favorite topic of the night, which is human rights
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: abuses committed by bike lanes. I've been waiting for someone,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: someone who've been talking about the.
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: Greatest human rights in.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Getting on a soap box.
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: But you understand, he spent a long time traveling down
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: major roads, tried to go fixed it with bikes in
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: front of.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Him, going thirty five, that's right and.
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: Under.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: And the whole time I was sitting there thinking, Gee,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: I wish one of these vaccines would kill me so
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: I didn't have to sit here. I'm not suggesting they do,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: but please take me out so I don't have to
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: deal with bloody cyclist. So in Paddington in Sydney, a
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: bunch of residents have worked out that there's this new
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: bikelane that's going to go up Oxford Street and because
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: there's a footpath and then there'll be a bike lane
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: and then the road and there are bus stops along
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: the road. They'll have to cross the bike lane in
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: order to get to the bus stop, and they are
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: quite concerned that they're going to be collected by speeding
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: cycle in the process. And you can see there this
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: as an example of one of these bikeways. It's got
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: the pedestrian crossing on it, but you know, when someone's
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: speeding along on their bike, it's quite easy for someone
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: to be collected. They have decided this is a human
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: rights issue and they have gone off to the Australian
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Human Rights Commission. One of the blokes involved in this case, Sorry,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Michael Waterhouse cake, I'm thinking about my birthday tomorrow. Is
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: it was my fault as in walking across the thing
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: and nearly getting collected. But I realized this could happen
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: to anybody of a certain age. The more I looked
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: into it, the more I thought this is bizarre. I'm
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: really concerned about it. The whole cycling thing is good
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: on one level. Unfortunately, there are a number of cyclists
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: who will cause problems. The demographic of Paddington is getting older.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: There are a lot of people around who I think
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: will be affected and fair enough, and I should note
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: as well that one of the people involved in this
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: case to the Human Rights Commission is Catherine Griner, the
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: ex wife of former New South Wales pre Nick Grann.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: I reckon they should rip every single one of these
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: bloody bike lanes out. They are a human rights issue.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Not only are they and I saw they take up
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: precious space on the road. And I don't know if
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: you've seen the bike lanes in Melbourne. They're much like
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: the ones in Sydney, but they take out an entire
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: lane of traffic through the CBD. There's never anyone on them.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: You try to park your car in the Melbourne CBD,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: someone wants to do a reverse parallel park. It holds
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: up all the traffic because there's literally only one lane
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: because they took one out for the bloody bike Get rid.
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: Of the lot of them.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Calm down, calm down.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Don't tell me to calm down.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Ken It's all right, don't come down. That's perfectly I've
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: got that.
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: Part of the problem is that cyclists understand they're superior
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: to the rest of us. Therefore they don't have to
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: treat us with respect and decency. We were pulling out
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: of a in the CBD in Sydney, pulling out of
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: a car park. To come out of this underground car park,
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: obviously you have to cross the bike lane in order
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: to get onto the road onto the right and so
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: but we pulled up there and we were watching the
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: traffic coming and a bicycle came down them so he
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: could proceeded to bump the side of our car with
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: his front wheel as hard as he could because we
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: didn't belong there, it belonged to him.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I've worked at that.
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: The problem is we are mere Homo sapiens. They have
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: evolved to the next level. They are home. They are homocyclists,
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: which is which is the next level of human evolution there,
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: and they're better than us because they're saving the planet.
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: We are discussing Homo sapiens down here somewhere because we're
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: not saving the planet. They're riding bikes, so they're saving
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: the planet. That makes them morally superior. They can do
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: whatever they like. I've actually worked that's their theory. There
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: is a problem with the theory because they're trying to
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: save the planet by reducing carbon dioxide. The problem is
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: every time they breathe out, they breathe carbon dioxide there,
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: so they've got alone to ride their bikes without breathing,
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: and then they'll be complete.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: And then they potentially have to knock over some trees
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: to put in the bike lane, so it's not soaking
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: up all that that carbon dioxide. I mean, I couldn't
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: particularly care whether they were homo cyclists or heterocyclist lives,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: to be perfectly honest, But I reckon these people have
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: a point.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: They have a point.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: It's all good and well to say that the cyclists
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: need their little bit of the world to get about
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: what they're doing. But there are far more pedestrians on
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: the street than there are cyclists, and surely the pedestrians,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: by that logic, should have right of way over the
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: cyclists in all cases.
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: Why can't we just have zebra crossings?
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Then?
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: Because they do.
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: Some issue is that the bike lanes have created what's
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: now called island bus stops.
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: Did you cover off on this bit? I just glazed
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: over in the end.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: He gets on his soapbox and I'm like, wow, I
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: can feel a lot of hot air on my left cheek,
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: but I can't.
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: So they're worries that people who are trying to get
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: to the.
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: Bus or disembarking the bus are going to be cleaned
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: up by these cyclists who don't care and don't stop
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: for anyone. I personally have never had a bad experience
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: with a cyclist, so I can't share your vitriol.
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: Oh no, no, no no, I can talk to you
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: about this an enormous length. Let me tell you the
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: part of the problem is cycles are silent and you
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: don't hear them coming up behind you.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: And when we were.
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: Vienna and a local said to us, watch out for
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: the cyclists. They won't be watching out for you and
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: you can't hear them coming. Cyclists around the world are
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: superior to the rest of us, and they're allowed to
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: hit anyone who's not.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: On a bike.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: It's true. And you say you've never had a bad
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: experience with a cyclist, I haven't.
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: My father Guys Inlycra, I've always been kind.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: They may well be kind, But my father is a
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: cyclist and he dons the licra every now and again.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: And I think that alone is the biggest problem with cyclists.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: All these middle aged men getting around in their like
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: with their their tummies out, and then they go along
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: to the cafe and sip a coffee after going through
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: a ride.
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: You sounding jealous.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm not jealous of fat old men getting around
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: in buddy like.
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: Old ones at all. It's not even this is true.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: You'll have to step on a set of scales before
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: you can buy.
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: Alf This is bordering on like bell.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, no, no, no, let me tell you that it
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: gets worse. They're also stupid.
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: They are riding a pushbike on the Pacific Highway.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: I see them all the time. It is unsafe. It
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: is unsafe.
• 31:39
  Speaker 7: They're surrounded by vehicles which weigh tons and are made
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: out of steel. They're on a little bike and they
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: think like rule will protect them. I mean that is
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: that is fairly brain.
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: No, you can't mow them down. It's the same with
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: pedestrians who like saunter across. You're like, this isn't a
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: zebra crossing zebra crossing cat.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: I don't say zebra. Show me your American pat sport.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: If we're gonna say zebra.
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: The wrong man to say zebra with.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: If we go down that road, we'll get into root
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: and route again. But I know that one of noisi
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: is SI.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: Quickly to Tennessee now, where they have legislated the death
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: penalty for convicted child rapists and I'm jealous.
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: I am so jealous. Why do we not have this
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: here Australia.
• 32:24
  Speaker 10: Bring back corporal punishment, bring back capital punishment when it
• 32:29
  Speaker 10: comes to people who have been convicted of molesting, of raping,
• 32:34
  Speaker 10: of harming children.
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: I am all for it.
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: Here's Majority House Leader William Lamberth giving his thoughts on
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: the matter.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: They should forfeit their own life.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: They should face the death penalily.
• 32:48
  Speaker 7: Their lives are altered forever, they carry those scars for
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: the rest of their life.
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: He's not wrong, he's not wrong, and we know thru
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: studies these aren't the kinds of people who you're like, oh,
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: just re educate them. At the same time, we have
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: movements now who are trying to legitimize maps minor attracted person.
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: Oh yes, changing them pedophiles.
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: That is what they are.
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: The fact is that these people never change, They are
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: never cured, They never acknowledge that what they did was wrong.
• 33:23
  Speaker 7: So you've got to you've got to lock them away
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: to make society safer. You can't let them out again.
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: And the death taxpayer dime for the rest of their lives.
• 33:33
  Speaker 7: No thanks to the death penalty is one of three
• 33:35
  Speaker 7: options death penalty, life, imprisonment, life without the option of parole.
• 33:40
  Speaker 7: I actually would go for the last one because I'm
• 33:42
  Speaker 7: not a death penalty support. I belong to the life squad,
• 33:45
  Speaker 7: not the death squad. Right, the problem, there's a good reasons,
• 33:49
  Speaker 7: because human justice is fallible. If you lock up the
• 33:53
  Speaker 7: wrong person, you release them, but if you execute the
• 33:56
  Speaker 7: wrong person, you can't resurrect them.
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: Are human cases where it is is beyond all reasonable
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: doubt that these people did the crime.
• 34:06
  Speaker 7: Because the death penalty changes that. Lindy Chamberlin who was
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: found guilty of murder beyond reasonable doubt. So because human
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: just well, it's if it would have carried the death
• 34:20
  Speaker 7: penalty in Tennessee. My point is that because human justice
• 34:24
  Speaker 7: is fallible, let's lock them up, let's not kill them.
• 34:27
  Speaker 7: That's that's the better way to go. But you're right,
• 34:29
  Speaker 7: it's the most horrible, horrendous crime.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Is there not an arguments? An argument? And I have
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: been sympathetic to the idea that the justice system is
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: fallible and therefore there are issues with the death penalty.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: But have we not reached a point now with technology,
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: particularly DNA technology, where it is possible for a crime
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: to be proven beyond any doubt, not just beyond reasonable doubt.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: And in those cases, why should be available? That's that's
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: what I think. Like if if it is fundamentally provable,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: like not a matter of he said, she said, and
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: a jury has to decide which side is more persuasive
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: if it is there, if there is physical evidence, particularly
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: something like DNA with one hundred percent match between two people,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: why should someone like that not be up for the.
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: Because there's still came on. I've got to answer his question.
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: Let me answer his question because I've got an answer.
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: It's human beings are still involved. If it was done
• 35:26
  Speaker 7: by the Pathology Department of the Queensland Police Service during
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: the DNA crisis, which has been reported by Headley Thomas,
• 35:33
  Speaker 7: the results.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Would have been just as dubious.
• 35:36
  Speaker 7: So because there's human beings involved, you can't be absolutely certain.
• 35:40
  Speaker 7: You don't kill people. You lock them up forever. I
• 35:42
  Speaker 7: know it costs some money, but it's still the right
• 35:45
  Speaker 7: thing to do.
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: I think putting them to death is to just overflowing.
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: They tell me that that wouldn't affect people with these
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: kind of evil proclivities if they knew that their.
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: Life hang in the balance.
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: If they were to act on those You cannot tell
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: me that that wouldn't.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: I don't believe it will.
• 36:10
  Speaker 7: No, I don't, but because because I think these people
• 36:12
  Speaker 7: think what they're doing is right, I think it's worse
• 36:15
  Speaker 7: than that.
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: So well, they're evil enough to and right now you're
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: adding to my argument for the death penalty. Thank you call.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, if you are watching tonight and you'd
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: like to put yourself up for the death penalty, go
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: over to Tennessee and we'll see how things end up
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: for you. After the break, we'll get into the papers.
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  Speaker 2: We'll come back after the breakdown. Go away. Let's get
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: stuck into the papers. Kel You've got the Townsville Bulletin.
• 37:54
  Speaker 7: I have indeed, because there is a big Army base
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: in Townsville. They often have military stories on the front page.
• 37:59
  Speaker 7: And did you know the Army did gap years? I
• 38:02
  Speaker 7: had no idea, but it's true and I think it's
• 38:03
  Speaker 7: a wonderful idea. The story says that a stint in
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: camouflage could be the new Kontiki for the Australian Defense Forces,
• 38:11
  Speaker 7: boosting hundreds of school levers for its gap year program.
• 38:15
  Speaker 7: It started off with five hundred and ninety three back
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: in twenty eighteen, eight hundred and eighty one last year,
• 38:20
  Speaker 7: and already this year one hundred and seventy six have
• 38:22
  Speaker 7: signed up. I had no idea the Army provided gap
• 38:25
  Speaker 7: years for kids, and I think it's a great idea,
• 38:27
  Speaker 7: wonderful way to spend the gap year.
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: It's genius. It says.
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: Gap year recruits get the same employment benefits as other
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: ADF personnel, including access to subsidized accommodation and meals, and
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: full medical and dental covery.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: They might even get to travel, They might have intro.
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: At a time when obviously our recruiting in the IDF
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: is But what I.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Can't get over is that their target is eight hundred
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: and eighty one this year. That seems to me a
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: really low target. But why are they not going into
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: every single school in the country and selling this. I
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: suppose because they're worried that people will actually take it
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: up and then they'll have to spend some money.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: On it would cost.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: But we know we've got problems in terms of recruiting people.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: We're talking about allowing foreigners into the army, you know,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: permanent residents who are not citizens, who come from Allied nations,
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: because we don't have enough Australian citizens who want to
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: sign up. Why wouldn't we go Okay, let's fix the
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: problem at the route instead of putting a band aid
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: over it later. Let's go into every school in the
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: country and encourage these kids to go off and good for.
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: Them, Good for them what they're doing at the end
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: of high school they're still like umming and ring and
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: not sure.
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: How better than to spend a year acquiring.
• 39:37
  Speaker 7: These kind of wonderful experience the state's budget, wonderful experience
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: for them, good for the army. Good or I just
• 39:44
  Speaker 7: remembering that famous army recruiting post to join the army,
• 39:47
  Speaker 7: see the world, meet interesting people and kill them.
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: Wow, that was that? Kn't of been an actual hell?
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Surely I thought you were against dead.
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: Not anymore.
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: The run page of The Australia now the Dutton Department
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: of Nuclear The big splash reads Peter Dutton will announce
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: that nuclear reactors will be Commonwealth owned and operated under
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: similar schemes to those overseeing snowy Hydro. You don't want
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: to mention that, mate, And the NBN is Jim Chalmer's
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: attempts at renewables reset by placing new community benefit principles
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: at the center of Labour's future Made in Australia Act.
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: It's all very secret, squirrel. Nobody knows quite where these things.
• 40:35
  Speaker 7: Know and we know we know, we know the go
• 40:37
  Speaker 7: to go where the old coal fire power stations are.
• 40:41
  Speaker 7: We've had Albanis are saying, come on, show us the details.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: We know the details.
• 40:45
  Speaker 7: They're going to where the grid already runs to. So
• 40:48
  Speaker 7: you don't have to spend billions and squillions building at
• 40:51
  Speaker 7: twenty eight thousand kilometers.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Of a new grid. You just use the grid that's there.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Up here for thinking incredible calm and we could find
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: out the sort ofitty gritty details of all of this
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: stuff as soon as tomorrow, which would be excellent because
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: that has been their only argument essentially. Oh, no one
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: really knows what's going to happen here. Oh where you're
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: possibly going to put it. Oh, it's going to cost
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: so much money. Oh it's terrible. Well, I mean, tell
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: me how that's any different to renewable energy.
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: Right, Oh, indeed, out of road to nowhere.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: But we're going to have an offshore wind farm zone
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: down and off the coast of Victoria in South Australia.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: But South Australia's not included anymore. Oh but that bit
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: of Victoria's not included anymore. That's been shrinking. We talked
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: last night about the one they want to put up
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: off the coast of the Illawarra here in New South Wales,
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: which is opposed strongly by the local community. There's no
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: more surety in their renewable projects than there is in nuclear.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: The only travel is, of course, the nuclear energy is
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: still banned in this country. But and he's banned for
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: a reason, because they're scared it'll work.
• 41:55
  Speaker 7: And Albany is you can't say anything about this because
• 41:57
  Speaker 7: if he says to people, do you want a nuclear
• 42:00
  Speaker 7: power plant, well the answer is we don't.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: We don't particularly want your.
• 42:04
  Speaker 7: Huge transmission towers or your wee from no none of those,
• 42:08
  Speaker 7: thank you very much.
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: Yes, And unlike what they've done with green energy, with
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: most people being like, thanks for ruining our pristine rural areas,
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: et cetera, et cetera, our coastline, Dutton has done his
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: homework and this article talks about how they've gotten basically
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: the community's blessings in advance, so Labour.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Can't be very smart on that front.
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: Last but not least on the front page of The Australian.
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: Joyce's sixteen million dollar payout is.
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: Up in the air. Love what you did there? Turnip phrase.
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: Former Quantus boss Alan Joyce faces a fight to claim
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: a sixteen million dollar windfall payment, with the airline hiring
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: a high profile consulting chief to question senior leaders on
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: whether a series of bungles on mister Joyce's watch will
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: void the payment of lucrative bonuses.
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: Well, well, well, I have a question.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: I have a question for the viewer on this one.
• 43:05
  Speaker 7: Why is it knowing Alan Joyce might miss out on
• 43:08
  Speaker 7: sixteen million dollars makes you feel so good?
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: It's because his service was so bad, I think, why
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: does he deserve sixteen No? No, And previously they talked
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: about it being like eight million dollars or there, but
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: now it's suddenly sixty Well.
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: Says his long term bonuses are almost fourteen million, plus
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: a short term bonus of just over two millions, So
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: I'm thinking, even if they go to the mattresses on this, he'll.
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: Probably just miss out on that bonus.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: The short term bonus we should miss out on all
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: of its size. I'm concerned, but no, wonder Quantis is
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: bringing in consultants to try and clean up this mess
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: because the amount of money they have to pay out
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: to the blow who destroyed the reputation of that airline
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: is extortionated. And I don't know if any of you
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: have flown Quantus recently, but it's really not that different
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: to any other airline at the moment. The only good
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: thing I can say that they've done on Quantas is
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: that they've brought the free booze forward from four pm
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: to mid That is the only good thing has done
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: of late. I did take advantage of it recently, but
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: then when I compared the cost of the ticket to
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: get on the plane to the cost of getting on
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: a Virgin flight or a rex flat, I don't know
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: that I really came out with your head flap much
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: further further in Flat, Actually, you're not allowed to use
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: the hip flask apparently, like that stops you. But if
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: they don't see you, it's not a problem.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Let's go to the people put it in his coffee.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Well, a former radio colleague who you might have worked with,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Tony Pilkington, like to put a little whisky in his
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: coffee and drink it on air. Let's go to the
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Korean reveal. Oh sorry, that's the wrong story. I was
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: about to tell you the one we just read on
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: the front of the oars. Let's go to this one.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Glady was a fraudster. Premier Stephen Marles handpicked Director General
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Mike Kayser, says committing fraud saved him from what would
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: have been a bloody, boring career as a labor minister.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Kayser opened up about the eighteen dating him nineteen eighty
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: six incidents when his signature on a false enrollment form
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: would force his resignation from PALA fifteen years later. Gosh,
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: just just move slows a bullet by the sounds of it,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: lucky bagger.
• 45:36
  Speaker 7: And we missed out on a potentially honest politician.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Very quickly. The herald'sun Before we get to the pot hell.
• 45:45
  Speaker 7: Yes, the Herald Son, there was a really grim story,
• 45:48
  Speaker 7: actually quite a frightening one where parents had to rush
• 45:51
  Speaker 7: their child who wasn't breathing to start with, in their
• 45:54
  Speaker 7: own cart of the hospital because they were told that
• 45:56
  Speaker 7: the newest ambulance was fifty kilometers away. This is to
• 45:59
  Speaker 7: do with the collapse of the health system in Victoria.
• 46:01
  Speaker 7: Which is getting to be very bad COLB and.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: It is killing people. I mean the coverage we did
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: at the Herald Sun when I was there. It is
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: killing people, the fact that they can't answer the phones
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: and they can't get the ambulances to them. After the break.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Does social media need cigarette style warnings? Would have stopped
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: using Facebook? We'll talk about that after the frame. Now,
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: if there's one thing I've really come to love over
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: the last few years, it's health bureaucrats. I can't get
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: enough of them. How about the US Surgeon General Vivic Murphy,
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: who now says, if you go on social media, perhaps
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: you should be subjected to warnings much like the ones
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: you would get on cigarette packets. He reckons it will
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: discourage people from using social media, or at the very
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: least will warn them about the mental health impacts of
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: doing so.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: I got to tell you, kell I reckon.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: If I went on to Facebook or Instagram or whatever
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: and I saw a cigarette style warning, that'd be enough
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: to make me light out.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Probably.
• 47:00
  Speaker 7: And we all know when we're online, dialogue boxes pop
• 47:03
  Speaker 7: up and we know exactly what we do. This is
• 47:04
  Speaker 7: a little cross on the top right hand corner, and
• 47:06
  Speaker 7: we click that and it goes away and we don't
• 47:08
  Speaker 7: know what it's said, So it's not going to achieve anything,
• 47:11
  Speaker 7: is it. I mean, it's a serious problem. Screen time
• 47:14
  Speaker 7: does destroy young brains, but we need a proper response
• 47:18
  Speaker 7: to it.
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: Not this here here, to the States.
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: Now where you would have seen this, because it went
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: absolutely viral, Biden doing his latest freeze and being let
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: off stage by Obama, who looks like he was taking
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: care of Grandpa that day and was assigned the role
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: of carer well. The following day, Biden's press secretary took
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: to the podium to assure everyone that no, no, that video.
• 47:44
  Speaker 6: That has been seen by millions of.
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: People around the world of Biden freezing yet again, seeming
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: to not know where he is, it's fake.
• 47:55
  Speaker 11: It tells you everything that we need to know about
• 47:58
  Speaker 11: how desperate, how desperate Republicans are here. And instead of
• 48:04
  Speaker 11: talking about the president's performance in office, and what I
• 48:07
  Speaker 11: mean by that is his legislative wins, what he's been
• 48:10
  Speaker 11: able to do for the American people across the country,
• 48:12
  Speaker 11: we're seeing these deep fakes, these manipulated videos. Lady.
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: There aren't enough deep fakes in the world to cover
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: up all of Biden's mishaps. Here he is clearly freezing
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: on stage and wait, wait, wait till Obama gives him
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: his cue and says, come on, Grams, let's it's time
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: for the retirement village.
• 48:35
  Speaker 6: Has called it's time to leave now.
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: This is the video that she is alleging is completely fake,
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: despite the fact that there was hundreds of people there
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: and witnessed it.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: The expression for.
• 48:46
  Speaker 7: Us deep fake means digitally altered. That was not digitally altered.
• 48:51
  Speaker 7: Whatever else it was, it wasn't. So it's not a
• 48:53
  Speaker 7: deep fake.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Let me show you a real deep fake. This one's good.
• 48:57
  Speaker 12: Ladies and gentlemen, if you will look right here. Okay,
• 49:01
  Speaker 12: so you did not see Biden wandering around aimlessly, freezing
• 49:05
  Speaker 12: up himself, sniffing dignitaries, falling asleep, drinking drug cocktails, and
• 49:10
  Speaker 12: frisking serving girls. What you actually saw were cheap fakes.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: It's like a deep fake.
• 49:16
  Speaker 12: But it's just the real video that we don't want
• 49:18
  Speaker 12: people to see.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: These are real, We don't know anyway.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: That's it for us tonight.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your company to read a
• 49:24
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