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- 0:04SPEAKER_00: Riding toward higher ground.
- 0:08SPEAKER_00: What is inherited and what is learned.
- 0:13Despite few people in my current world having actually seen me
- 0:17on top of a horse,
- 0:19SPEAKER_00: I've spent a large portion of my life identifying as a rider.
- 0:24SPEAKER_00: There are many reasons for the sabbatical,
- 0:26but the truth is I have learned more from horses by their side
- 0:30than I ever figured
- 0:31SPEAKER_00: out a stride.
- 0:33SPEAKER_00: I will always be a riding instructor,
- 0:35but that title has come to embody a whole horse and whole human
- 0:40way of leading
- 0:41SPEAKER_00: people as they explore the complicated,
- 0:43SPEAKER_00: simple,
- 0:44SPEAKER_00: mysterious,
- 0:45and grounded relationship with horses that is worlds away from
- 0:49the forceful
- 0:50SPEAKER_00: mechanics that marked my early career.
- 0:53SPEAKER_00: I've personally had legions of instructors,
- 0:56SPEAKER_00: mentors,
- 0:57and trainers who filled me with knowledge and helped me become
- 1:00the riding stable
- 1:01SPEAKER_00: manager that I am today.
- 1:03I will find many more teachers as I continue this journey
- 1:08because a life with
- 1:08SPEAKER_00: horses isn't a flow chart.
- 1:11SPEAKER_00: It's a shore of shifting tides.
- 1:14The choices I make with horses today are a monument to the
- 1:18wisdom and ignorance of
- 1:19SPEAKER_00: the teachers who crafted the living,
- 1:21SPEAKER_00: changing herd of my bones.
- 1:25In honor of the mindset that guides me today,
- 1:27I want to talk to you about one of my teachers.
- 1:32SPEAKER_00: Let's get started.
- 1:35SPEAKER_00: But first,
- 1:36SPEAKER_00: if you're interested in how we find meaning through presence,
- 1:39SPEAKER_00: practice and language,
- 1:41SPEAKER_00: listen to my recent podcast conversation with poet Jason Chambers.
- 1:46Jason's journey is about survival and return through addiction,
- 1:50loss and rediscovery.
- 1:52What brought him back was the pull of the natural world and the
- 1:55act of writing it into meaning.
- 1:57SPEAKER_00: We talk about cultivating reverence,
- 2:00SPEAKER_00: the challenge of putting the indescribable into words,
- 2:03SPEAKER_00: and how nature can become our greatest teacher.
- 2:06SPEAKER_00: His insights on creative exploration,
- 2:08SPEAKER_00: vulnerability,
- 2:09and connection feel like a natural extension of the themes that
- 2:13guide my work.
- 2:14SPEAKER_00: The Trouble with Titles
- 2:32It was prettier than the standard midlife crisis because it
- 2:35involved horses.
- 2:37The rite of passage that took me deep into the coves and
- 2:41hollers of the mountains
- 2:43coincided with my 40th birthday and a big chestnut horse that
- 2:48was as handsome as he
- 2:49SPEAKER_00: was nuts.
- 2:51SPEAKER_00: Explosive,
- 2:52SPEAKER_00: domineering,
- 2:53SPEAKER_00: and violent,
- 2:54SPEAKER_00: Odin,
- 2:55SPEAKER_00: like his namesake,
- 2:56SPEAKER_00: refused to be tamed by any training knowledge that I possessed.
- 3:01SPEAKER_00: In truth, he needed an exorcist.
- 3:05SPEAKER_00: So did I.
- 3:07SPEAKER_00: Fear had turned me into a wild animal of desire, impulsivity and rage.
- 3:14My stomach was filled with ulcers and my mind was plagued by an
- 3:18unquenchable thirst
- 3:20SPEAKER_00: for connection.
- 3:21SPEAKER_00: My womb was bleeding me dry,
- 3:23SPEAKER_00: my body faltering,
- 3:25but I couldn't slow down because I had a farm to run and a
- 3:29point to prove.
- 3:30SPEAKER_00: All my best ideas happen out of desperation.
- 3:35SPEAKER_00: The old silver farm truck was unreliable,
- 3:39and I needed a vehicle that would allow me to make a weekly
- 3:42sojourn to a horse
- 3:44trainer whose knowledge could fill gaps in my understanding of
- 3:48how to take a horse
- 3:49SPEAKER_00: with problems and make them reliable and usable for the general public.
- 3:54SPEAKER_00: So I purchased a big black truck,
- 3:57SPEAKER_00: brand new with a warranty,
- 3:59and admired the glow of its chrome in the moonlight as I sat on
- 4:03the front porch and
- 4:04drank wine while clicking the remote start just to hear its
- 4:08engine roar into life.
- 4:11SPEAKER_00: The trainer, we'll call him the cowboy, came by the name honestly.
- 4:17SPEAKER_00: Raised by the founding fathers of the natural horsemanship movement,
- 4:21SPEAKER_00: his knowledge filled gaps I didn't yet know how to name.
- 4:26SPEAKER_00: I was hesitant to latch onto any one system of working with horses.
- 4:31SPEAKER_00: The tools I craved were ancient,
- 4:34rooted in a desire to understand how we ruin horses in the
- 4:38English riding world,
- 4:40SPEAKER_00: and then send them to Cowboys to fix.
- 4:43SPEAKER_00: The goal was to drive two hours from my farm once a week,
- 4:48SPEAKER_00: immerse myself in the Cowboys way of training,
- 4:50SPEAKER_00: and write about what I discovered.
- 4:54SPEAKER_00: I wanted to ride for pleasure, away from the eyes of staff and clients.
- 4:59I needed to reclaim pieces of myself that I'd traded for making
- 5:03horses my livelihood.
- 5:06SPEAKER_00: I loaded up the big black truck with saddles,
- 5:09SPEAKER_00: snacks,
- 5:10SPEAKER_00: and the hazy edges of my failing inspiration and took off for the hills.
- 5:18SPEAKER_00: Stable Roots is where I share stories about horses,
- 5:21SPEAKER_00: resilience and the life I've built from both.
- 5:25SPEAKER_00: Subscribing helps keep these stories going.
- 5:28SPEAKER_00: A paid subscription goes even further by directly supporting the farm,
- 5:32SPEAKER_00: the horses and the work we do here daily.
- 5:35However you choose to be a part of this community,
- 5:38I'm just grateful you're here.
- 5:44SPEAKER_00: A drive to store my memories.
- 5:48SPEAKER_00: My people are from these mountains.
- 5:51SPEAKER_00: The altitude climbs through resorts in despair,
- 5:55visitors and residents each with differing claims to ownership
- 5:59over the land.
- 6:01SPEAKER_00: Late summer wraps the mountains in a thick blue canopy.
- 6:06Golden and red flowers line the roadsides as I drive away from
- 6:11what I know and
- 6:12SPEAKER_00: deeper into what I wish would happen.
- 6:16SPEAKER_00: The last time I made this drive,
- 6:17SPEAKER_00: I was a child in my grandfather's Cadillac,
- 6:20listening to cassette tapes while he schooled me on land grants
- 6:24and how our people
- 6:25SPEAKER_00: came here with the holy permission of the King of England.
- 6:30The family plot is a short hike from the parking lot of a park
- 6:34below the fish hatchery.
- 6:37SPEAKER_00: My Aunt Stella's cremains are scattered in these mountains,
- 6:41around tombstones worn smooth by rainfall dripping from the
- 6:45oaks that surround the
- 6:46SPEAKER_00: burial site.
- 6:48Stella became part of the land in a way that makes me consider
- 6:52how we all return to it,
- 6:54SPEAKER_00: how we're all a part of it,
- 6:56SPEAKER_00: transmuting into the elements.
- 7:00I drive these roads with my grandfather now washed into the
- 7:04dirt and the opposing
- 7:06SPEAKER_00: angels of his legacy continuing their battle inside of me.
- 7:11It's time to choose the country or the city,
- 7:14the mountains or the pavement.
- 7:17SPEAKER_00: Dual citizenship in both is no longer working.
- 7:24The cowboy greets me at the gate and waits for me to park the
- 7:27truck before he pulls
- 7:28SPEAKER_00: me into the orbit of his tasks.
- 7:30SPEAKER_00: There are bottle calves to feed and a horse to brand,
- 7:34and there is a commercial hauler coming with a semi-truck that
- 7:38can't make the
- 7:39SPEAKER_00: curves in the higher elevations to drop three horses off.
- 7:44SPEAKER_00: Money migrates up the coast every year like birds in reverse,
- 7:49humans escaping the heat for gated homes and the cool wildness
- 7:53of the mountains.
- 7:55SPEAKER_00: Their horses come with them.
- 7:58SPEAKER_00: The cowboy is made of tobacco and movement,
- 8:01his short frame adorned with a hat that states his bearing in a
- 8:06community that no
- 8:07SPEAKER_00: longer cares about tractors and herding dogs.
- 8:11SPEAKER_00: I'm Southern,
- 8:12SPEAKER_00: born and raised,
- 8:14and I can barely make out his meaning through the thickness of
- 8:17his accent.
- 8:19SPEAKER_00: He's equal parts parody and pride.
- 8:22He's agreed to take me on for the price of weekly lessons and
- 8:26the potential sale of horses,
- 8:28SPEAKER_00: including Odin.
- 8:31SPEAKER_00: You look like that lady and the man from Snowy River,
- 8:34SPEAKER_00: he said,
- 8:35SPEAKER_00: the first day he came to my place to drop off a pony.
- 8:39SPEAKER_00: It sounded like validation at the time.
- 8:43SPEAKER_00: I might be a writing instructor,
- 8:44SPEAKER_00: but I'm still human,
- 8:46SPEAKER_00: and I've accepted worse praise for lesser reasons.
- 8:51The city boys hauling the expensive horses in the semi-trailer
- 8:54arrive and I watch
- 8:56from the shadows of the barn as they alternately talk down to
- 9:00the cowboy and find
- 9:01SPEAKER_00: themselves unable to unload the horses and have to beg for help.
- 9:06SPEAKER_00: The horses are stressed, stoic statues on the trailer.
- 9:12The cowboy lets the haulers struggle a bit before he strolls up
- 9:15the big ramp and
- 9:17SPEAKER_00: flicks a lead rope.
- 9:19SPEAKER_00: The first horse follows him down the incline like butter.
- 9:24Soon he's transferred three horses from the big rig to his
- 9:28smaller stock trailer
- 9:29SPEAKER_00: that will handle the sharp curves up the mountain.
- 9:34SPEAKER_00: As I climb into the passenger seat of the cowboy's truck,
- 9:38SPEAKER_00: the movement of the horses behind us sways the shocks.
- 9:42The sun begins to set,
- 9:44spreading purple shadows across the worn brown of his farmyard.
- 9:49Rich or poor,
- 9:50farms smell the same in the dark,
- 9:53and the horses couldn't care less about lineage.
- 9:57SPEAKER_00: My genealogy is hard to rectify.
- 10:00SPEAKER_00: My love for the land is at odds with what people do to grab it.
- 10:04The grandfather who raised me was split between his love for
- 10:08the forests and his
- 10:09SPEAKER_00: fascination with cutting them down.
- 10:12The grandfather I never met took part in violence to prove that
- 10:16there were humans
- 10:17SPEAKER_00: more lowly than sharecroppers.
- 10:20The cowboy guns his truck full force up the mountain as the
- 10:24darkening hills rush
- 10:25SPEAKER_00: past us in a blur.
- 10:28He points out an unfinished tunnel where the agriculture school
- 10:31ripens cheese.
- 10:34SPEAKER_00: I point out the turnoff to my family's graveyard.
- 10:37SPEAKER_00: We talk about how we're probably distant cousins.
- 10:41SPEAKER_00: I ask him what brought him to horses.
- 10:45He tells me about his alcoholic father raising him alone in a
- 10:49town on top of the mountain.
- 10:51SPEAKER_00: how the population shrank in the winter, feast to famine.
- 10:56He tells me how two brothers found him as a kid at a livestock
- 10:59auction and saw that
- 11:01SPEAKER_00: he knew how to sit on a horse,
- 11:03how he gave the appearance that the horse was child-safe for
- 11:07the few moments it
- 11:08SPEAKER_00: took to earn top dollar in a sale.
- 11:11he tells me how the brothers took him home with them and how
- 11:14they hauled him with
- 11:15the horses across the country his world suddenly expanding like
- 11:20the way light hits
- 11:21SPEAKER_00: a clear stone how it's refracted and glorified into something else
- 11:28SPEAKER_00: He tells me how Ray Hunt and Tom Dorrance later found him,
- 11:32SPEAKER_00: and how they took him on,
- 11:33SPEAKER_00: teaching him their ways,
- 11:35SPEAKER_00: making him their rider as they spread the old vaquero practices,
- 11:40SPEAKER_00: working cows like the Spanish settlers,
- 11:43in a world with its trains and cars and airplanes that had
- 11:47forgotten horsemanship
- 11:49SPEAKER_00: was what created a rideable horse.
- 11:52He tells me how these men saw something big in him and how they
- 11:56brought it out.
- 11:57SPEAKER_00: These dusty saviors with gnarled hands that could tie tight knots.
- 12:04I feel like I need to prove my privilege of sitting in his
- 12:07passenger seat as his
- 12:09SPEAKER_00: truck roars up the mountain,
- 12:11SPEAKER_00: not slowing through hairpin turns,
- 12:14SPEAKER_00: the horses swaying in the trailer behind us.
- 12:17SPEAKER_00: The moon has risen bright and round.
- 12:21I tell him how I understand that the tools of natural
- 12:24horsemanship got caught in
- 12:26the Pacific Northwest while Texas was busy going large with its
- 12:31big flat lands.
- 12:34I tell him how we fed the modern world with faster methods of
- 12:38moving cows while the
- 12:40SPEAKER_00: slow way dropped off to sate the insatiable hunger,
- 12:44this country of strangers racing to fill the boundaries of
- 12:47opposing oceans.
- 12:50SPEAKER_00: I tell him how I've worked with horses every day of my adult life,
- 12:53SPEAKER_00: but I don't know much about them.
- 12:56SPEAKER_00: What I don't say is how equally less I know about myself.
- 13:01SPEAKER_00: I'm in a speeding truck flying up a mountain.
- 13:04SPEAKER_00: I came here on a whim, on a hunch.
- 13:08SPEAKER_00: I need the cowboy to show me the missing links.
- 13:13SPEAKER_00: I know the theory, I know the history, I say.
- 13:16SPEAKER_00: I see how we got from there to here.
- 13:20SPEAKER_00: But I need to know what the horses want,
- 13:23SPEAKER_00: to understand why they do what they do,
- 13:26SPEAKER_00: why I do what I do,
- 13:29SPEAKER_00: and how to make my language cleaner when I talk to them.
- 13:34SPEAKER_00: Then you'll need to start over at the beginning, he says.
- 13:40The truck banks hard down a twisting dirt road that follows a
- 13:44stream deep into a cove.
- 13:47SPEAKER_00: The destination is a farm tucked into the trees.
- 13:51The warm glow of the lights around the barn flicker like
- 13:54candles in the cool summer shadows.
- 13:58SPEAKER_00: The horses unload without a fuss and,
- 14:00SPEAKER_00: like it never happened,
- 14:02SPEAKER_00: we're back on the road,
- 14:03moving slower as the truck breaks and winds down the steep
- 14:07grade on the return trip
- 14:09SPEAKER_00: down the mountain.
- 14:11SPEAKER_00: We're quiet as we go,
- 14:13my skin still vibrating from the fast pull of the engine when
- 14:16the trailer was
- 14:17SPEAKER_00: loaded with heavy flight animals.
- 14:21The cowboy and I stare ahead at the forest cave of trees framed
- 14:26in the headlights,
- 14:27SPEAKER_00: illuminating just enough to inch steadily forward.
- 14:32I'm turning to him with a question when he slows the truck to a
- 14:36halt in the middle
- 14:37SPEAKER_00: of the empty road.
- 14:39SPEAKER_00: He motions for me to be quiet and to look.
- 14:43In front of us,
- 14:44a black bear and two small cubs amble from one side of the road
- 14:49to the other.
- 14:51SPEAKER_00: Unbothered by the light,
- 14:52SPEAKER_00: our presence,
- 14:53SPEAKER_00: the moving thread of progress and civilizations,
- 14:57they follow the same ancient path their ancestors have carried
- 15:02them since these old
- 15:03SPEAKER_00: mountains were just a dream that read like a vision.
- 15:08We are simultaneously held by and are complete strangers to
- 15:12this land in this place
- 15:14SPEAKER_00: where three states converge and my people set up shop with a land grant.
- 15:20SPEAKER_00: We brought the horses with us to this place.
- 15:24We fed them with foreign grass and wondered why the richness
- 15:27made them sick.
- 15:30SPEAKER_00: They traveled here with us, but we still don't know them.
- 15:33These horses that we've kicked into a semblance of wildness
- 15:37that feels safe for us to digest.
- 15:40SPEAKER_00: Stepping into my knowledge of them,
- 15:43SPEAKER_00: growing it,
- 15:43SPEAKER_00: expanding it,
- 15:45SPEAKER_00: is almost like moving into fear itself,
- 15:48SPEAKER_00: the unknown,
- 15:50SPEAKER_00: the things I might uncover.
- 15:53SPEAKER_00: I am the black bear in the headlight.
- 15:56SPEAKER_00: Or maybe she is me.
- 15:58Either way,
- 15:59I will follow the soft pause of my questions slowly toward
- 16:05higher ground.
- 16:11SPEAKER_00: These writings may be in two parts or 12.
- 16:14SPEAKER_00: I'll be back next week with more horses and less backstory, maybe.
- 16:19But it feels right to write about this journey because so much
- 16:22of it has shaped who I am now.
- 16:26SPEAKER_00: If my story calls to you,
- 16:28SPEAKER_00: or if you've been walking similar roads,
- 16:31SPEAKER_00: consider subscribing to Stable Roots.
- 16:33SPEAKER_00: Free or paid,
- 16:35SPEAKER_00: it's how I keep sharing these stories about horses,
- 16:37SPEAKER_00: land,
- 16:38SPEAKER_00: and the questions that don't have easy answers.
- 16:41Paid subscriptions also help support the horses and the farm
- 16:45that give back to our community.
- 16:48i also host a podcast called relatively stable where i talk
- 16:52with people about the
- 16:53roads they've taken the ones they've left behind and the
- 16:56lessons they've learned
- 16:57along the way if you're curious you can listen to past
- 17:01conversations like my recent
- 17:03SPEAKER_00: deep dive with poet jason chambers u s equestrian team great kim walness
- 17:09SPEAKER_00: creative visionary Jane Pike, and my wise sister Tamar Reno.
- 17:15Upcoming,
- 17:16I'll be sharing a conversation with equine body worker Sue Lomenzo.
- 17:21And you can find Relatively Stable on all your favorite podcast platforms,
- 17:26SPEAKER_00: or you can keep up with it from my blog,
- 17:28SPEAKER_00: Stable Roots,
- 17:29SPEAKER_00: which will click over to Relatively Stable.
- 17:34SPEAKER_00: Thank you for being here with me.
- 17:38SPEAKER_00: Love, Kim.